Intro
This is just another strange story from one of the earliest biographies on Ahmadiyya founders. This quotation is from the biography which Noorudin dictated, it was titled as “”Mirqatul yaqeen fi hayat e Nooruddin”” (1912) by Akbar Shah Khan of Najibabad before his death. In 1904, during MGA’s life, “Nur ud Din” was published, this book seems to be an extension that. This story is from the era wherein Noorudin was in Rampur. Rampur at that time was an independent princely state and now it is a part of UP state of India, Noorudin was there from age 27-30 (roughly 1867–1870, See the book by Zaf Khan, page 11. He was apparently open to men falling in love with other men, he even facilitated one-such encounter. Further, Noorudin and the other english biography on Noorudin’s life seems to have purposely left out this important story. This contradicts Ahmadiyya on homosexuality problem in 2020. This is the same book wherein it is recorded that the widow of MGA (nusrat jehan) claimed to be the prostitute (laundi) of the newly elected Khalifa.
_____________________________________________________________________________________________Noorudin from one of his autobiographies, “Mirqatul-Yaqeen”
MOLVI NOORUDDIN FACILITATES HOMOSEXUAL
MIRQATUL YAQEEN PAGE NO 80/81
“””ONE OF MY STUDENT FRIENDS GOT LAZY IN HIS STUDIES WHEN I ASKED HIM THE REASON, HE SAID I HAVE FALLEN IN LOVE WITH A BEAUTIFUL BOY AND I CAN’T LIVE WITHOUT SEEING HIM AND HAVING HIS ONE GLIMPSE IS DIFFICULT QUITE OFTEN. SO IT HAS BEEN HARD TO CONCENTRATE ON STUDIES. HEARING THIS, I TOOK A BOLD STEP, ACCOMPANIED HIM TO THE BOY (HIS BELOVED). I SAID TO THE BOY THAT MY FRIEND HAS FALLEN IN LOVE WITH YOU AND DUE TO WHICH HE CAN’T CONCENTRATE ON HIS STUDIES. AS A RESULT OF WHICH HIS STUDIES ARE SUFFERING. SO I REQUEST YOU TO ALLOW HIM TO COME TO YOUR SHOP DAILY AFTER ASR PRAYER. HE WILL STAY AT YOUR SHOP TILL MAGHRIB PRAYER. THIS DARING ACTION OF MINE, SURPRISED THE POOR BOY AND HE AGREED TO IT. SO WHOEVER DO SOMETHING FOR THE SAKE OF ALLAH, ALLAH PUT HIS BLESSING IN IT.”””
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Commentary
______________________________________________________________________________________________Links and Related Essays
Was Mirza Ghulam Ahmad’s wife a concubine aka “LAUNDI” of Noorudin?
“Mirqatul-Yaqeen” a biography on the life of Noorudin, published in 1912
Nooruddin fell off of his horse in the winter of 1909 and was dragged until he almost died
Nooruddin treated Mirza Ghulam Ahmad for impotency and many others, with opium!!!!
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April 23, 2017 at 2:53 am
i just read those exact pages referenced from my own copy of mirqaatul yaqeen. why do you think these stories are retracted now? also, what makes you think that rabwah has an underground gay scene?
April 23, 2017 at 6:25 am
When I find Ahmadis lying…I then give opinions.
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April 24, 2017 at 1:00 am
that’s a fair statement.
please continue to post, it’s bring to light many things that are hidden. one has to really be an ahmadi to know the hypocrisy of ahmadis, otherwise, it’s hard to tell who is telling the truth.
April 24, 2017 at 4:50 pm
Thank you sir.
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April 23, 2017 at 2:58 am
also, your blog loads really slowly and it slows down my web-browser. i am not able to properly read your posts because it freezes my browser. not sure if there is anything you could do. it would be nice to read your work, but this obstacle is really an annoying one.
April 23, 2017 at 6:25 am
Hmmm…change your browser sir.
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April 24, 2017 at 9:28 pm
i have a question here, with respect to the sexual allegations against the second khalifa by bashir ahmad misri, did the fourth khalifa ever accept the mubahila challenge, or better yet, did the mubahila ever come into effect? sorry, i am not sure how to word my question, i hope you understood what i am trying to ask.
April 25, 2017 at 12:08 am
That’s a really good question. I would need to search all of the khutbahs of Mirza Tahir Ahmad for 1989. On the surface, it seems that Mirza Tahir Ahmad was silent in terms of Bashir Ahmad Misri, they normally are vs. ex-ahmadis. The two of them grew up together in Qadian, at least til their teenage years….
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April 25, 2017 at 12:17 am
sorry, i did not understand this: “they normally are vs. ex-ahmadis.” kindly rephrase.
i’ll be awaiting your research results. thank you.
April 25, 2017 at 2:54 pm
@ Tamim
Sure….Ahmadiyya leadership rarely speaks openly about Ex-Ahmadis. They don’t want to engage us or have any conversations with us.
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April 25, 2017 at 1:13 am
also, in your research could you kindly confirm whether the fourth khalifa was even aware of the allegations and whether he had even received the mubahila challenge.
i am trying to make sure that the ahmadiyya hierarchy were not in the dark about this. because if they were in the dark, then this case is moot. if not, and then this is a serious blow to the ahmadiyya khilafat and it’s credibility.
i am just curious to know how come this matter is not popular.
April 25, 2017 at 2:52 pm
@ Tamim
Well….he issued a global Mubahila in that same year…he was “over-confident” inasmuch that he really believed that Zia died simply for opposing Ahmadiyya, so now he was sending out a global mubahila, however, he never accepted anyone’s counter-challenge.
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April 25, 2017 at 6:25 pm
as far as i am concerned, i just want to know, at the least, if mirza tahir ahmad was aware of this particular mubahila and the allegations against the second khalifa. even if mirza tahir ahmad never accepted the challenge, the fact that he was aware of it, sheds a lot of light.
i just want to know if he was aware of the challenge and the allegations surrounding the challenge. was mirza tahir ahmad aware of the challenge and the allegations claimed by bashir ahma misri? this all i want to know for now.
another similar question that lurks my mind is whether mirza tahir ahmad and the mirza masroor ahmad were aware of the ba’it fraud? if they were and did not address it to the community, then this sheds light on how this khilafat works. it’s deceitful, or at the least they are afraid to show real cracks in the hierarchy for fear of losing credibility for it might jeopardize the “godly” mission of the community. so, it could be a case of when doing “god’s” work everything is permitted.
whether deceit is good or bad, that is a topic for another time to discuss.
thank you for your hard work. sorry if my questions and requests pose any hardships on you.
April 25, 2017 at 8:16 pm
@ Tamim
Mirza Tahir Ahmad never revealed if he was aware of any counter-mubahilas. IMHO…Mubahilas are unislamic, however, vs. Ahmadiyya they seem to have been in currency. I don’t ever do a Mubahila. NO muslims ever did it before MGA began doing it after he claimed to be the Messiah.
I will start searching the friday sermons of Mirza Tahir Ahmad to see if he ever acknowledged the counter Mubahilas.
And yes…they are sure of the bait fraud. MGA was doing it…Bahais do it, mormons do it.
In conclusion, Ahmadiyya can only operate under capitalistic regimes, wherein religion is de-regulated and allowed to become private enterprise.
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April 25, 2017 at 6:34 pm
also, what was this “global mubahila” about?
April 25, 2017 at 8:12 pm
@ Tamim
Sure…you should read this book here..: http://alhafeez.org/rashid/bjc.pdf. Lots of good references, and he covers the mid to late 80’s.
Remember, in the summer of 1988, Mirza Tahir Ahmad submitted a global Mubahila. Here is the audio: https://www.alislam.org/archives/sermons/mp3/FSA19880610-UR.mp3
Zia Ul Haq died a few months later. Mirza Tahir Ahmad challenged all Muslims of the world. He was very ambitious, and since he was in the UK…he was behaving wrecklessly..
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April 25, 2017 at 11:11 pm
i see.
even if mirza tahir ahmad does not acknowledge the counter muhabilas, it would be the same to know if the counter mubahilas reached him at least.
so, if after your research you do not find a trace of him acknowledging the mubahila of bashir ahmad misri, could you then kindly somehow find out whether bashir ahmad misri’s mubahila reached their london headquaters or not.
for me this is of the essence now.
April 26, 2017 at 4:25 pm
OK..its on my list of un-completed research. Check out this audio sermon in the meantime…its from 06-10-1988
https://www.alislam.org/archives/sermons/mp3/FSA19880610-UR.mp3
April 25, 2017 at 11:12 pm
i will have a look at that book. thank you!
April 26, 2017 at 12:25 am
the book you provided the link to only briefly mentions bashir ahmad misri’s allegation on page 467. it does not mention whether mirza tahir ahmad was aware of the mubahila or not. it reads:
“hafiz bashir ahmad misri, the son of sheikh abdul rehman misri, who one time had levelled [sic] numerous allegations against mirza mahmud in 1935, wrote a letter to mirza tahir inviting him to a mubahila on ‘instances of indulgences in sex orgy’ by his father. he dared not face him.”
it seems the author assumes that mirza tahir ahmad received the letter and, therefore, “he dared not face him.” otherwise, there is no mention of any other detail. i am assuming here “he” is referring to mirza tahir ahmad and “him” is referring to bashir ahmad misri.
so much to unfold! that is why it is important to know whether mirza tahir ahmad was aware of bashir ahmad misri’s allegations. otherwise, this matter is moot, despite bashir ahmad misri’s oath.
if mirza tahir ahmad received the letter and mubahila challenge, and this can be proven, then this is enough to sink the whole community. nothing to further discuss after this. all of their arguments would be considered as window dressing, bells and whistles, gimmicks, nothing more, just mental gymnastics.
April 26, 2017 at 4:26 pm
@ Tamim
Yep….so it seems that Mirza Tahir Ahmad didn’t respond to anyone’s counter-mubahilas.
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April 26, 2017 at 4:33 pm
i guess the only left to find out if mirza tahir ahmad received the mubahila. could you kindly find this out. thank you.
April 26, 2017 at 4:52 pm
That might be impossible…..Ahmadiyya leadership never reveals its “back-room-dealings”…
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April 26, 2017 at 4:55 pm
it would be unfair to mirza tahir ahmad if he was never aware of the mubahila.
April 26, 2017 at 4:59 pm
i do see your point about the “back-room-dealings” not being revealed.
this is causing me a headache.
thank you for your help.
April 26, 2017 at 5:25 pm
@Tamim
Ahmadiyyas back-room dealings is where all the action is. In fact, when they elect a new Khalifa, it is all pre-planned in the back-rooms.
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April 26, 2017 at 5:59 pm
i wish some clean examples could be presented with real witnesses..
this bashir ahmad misri would be the best example. if only someone could confirm whether mirza tahir ahmad was aware of the mubahila. otherwise, you can’t blame mirza tahir ahmad, and as a result mirza mahmud ahmad is also vindicated.
April 26, 2017 at 11:57 pm
I’m 100% sure that Ahmadiyya leadership knew about the Misri letter and others. Remember, these people are spin-doctors. In the case of Athim, they claim that he repented…we all know that is a lie, in-fact, they took out a procession in Amritsar to prove that he was alive, and their were attempts on his life in the underlying 15 month period.
April 27, 2017 at 1:49 am
to me, personally, i never knew about this bashir ahmad misri. but now, for me it has become the only thing that matters. if the leadership of the community knew of these allegations and kept quiet, then this community has zero credibility. period. nothing to further discuss. all other matters can be debated, this matter can’t. this matter is black and white.
April 27, 2017 at 2:01 am
@ tamim
The story of Bashir Ahmad Misri goes deeper. He actually got the “Lahori-Ahmadis” removed from the leadership of the Woking Mosque. The Lahori-Ahmadis managed the estate for almost 50 years. Bashir Ahmad Misri’s father became a Lahori-Ahmadi after he fell out with the Qadianis. His son became an Imam, a sunni-friendly imam it seems. Someway, and somehow, he became the Imam at Woking, he then wrestled control of the mosque and delivered it to the local Sunni community.
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April 27, 2017 at 2:20 am
yeah, searching google to find whether mirza tahir ahmad was aware of the allegations, i came across that. you also mentioned it here on your site.