Intro
Mirza Ghulam Ahmad announced in the late 1870’s that he was raising money for his arguments in support of Islam (see Dard). The book was finally published some time in 1880. Ahmadiyya leadership lies and claims that the book was already fully written and MGA only published a portion of it. The reality is that MGA had no ghost-writers at this time, and seems to have had this book written by himself and maybe a few friends like Sufi Ahmad Jan.
Some announcements that MGA published in terms of BA in 1879
“To publish such a huge book is very difficult without the help of Muslim brothers. And the reward to help in such an important project is not hidden from even an ordinary Muslim. Therefore it is requested from the faithful brothers that they should participate in this good work and help in its publication. If rich people give just one day expenditure of their kitchen, this book will be printed easily, otherwise this shining moon will remain hidden. Or else, all such persons who can afford, with the intention of purchasing the book, send Rs. 5 with their applications to me. As the book is published, it will be posted to them.” (Majmoo-e-Ishtihaarat, Collection of Advertisements, vol.1 pp.11-12, Advertisement dated May 1879).
“Anyone who will refute the proofs given in this book …..I will give up all my assets worth Rs. 10,000 and hand over to him everything.” (Majmoo-e-Ishtihaarat, Collection of Advertisements, vol.1 pp.11-12, Advertisement dated May 1879).
“It should be known to my Religious Brothers and Honorable Mannered and Supporters of Religion of Islam and the Followers of Sunnah of Prophet (SAAW) that this humble self has compiled such a book on truthfulness of Quran and the truthfulness of Islam that after reading it the seeker of the truth will have no choice but to embrace Islam ……. to publish such a huge book is very difficult without the help of Muslim brothers. And the reward to help in such an important project is not hidden from even an ordinary Muslim. Therefore it is requested from the faithful brothers that they should participate in this good work and help in its publication. If rich people give just one day expenditure of their kitchen, this book will be printed easily, otherwise this shining moon will remain hidden. Or else, all such persons who can afford, with the intention of purchasing the book, send Rs. 5 with their applications to me. As the book is published, it will be posted to them.” (Majmoo-e-Ishtihaarat, Collection of Advertisements, vol.1 pp.10-12, Advertisement dated May 1879).
“….the beautiful script and writing and fine paper etc. necessities and care with which this book will be published, the real value of this book was not less than Rs.20. But only on the hope of and with a view that certain rich and ambitious Muslims will pay full attention and thus the loss incurred due to low price would be compensated, price was fixed at Rs.5 only. But this did not happen and I have also grown tired of waiting…..” (Advertisement dated 3rd Dec. 1879, Majmoo-e-Ishtihaarat, Collection of Advertisements, vol.1 p. 13).
When MGA first went to get Braheen-e-Ahmadiyya VOL.1 Published
“When he (Mirza Ghulam) came for the first time to my press, he sat on a pillowed seat and I sat on one seat and he discussed with me about the book, looking at his dozy eyes, I thought that perhaps he uses opium, as is commonly the habit of rich people, but when I heard his talk or speech and thought about the articles of Braheen-e-Ahmadiyya, I was amazed at the condition of an Opium use is not like this, such man cannot write like this. Then Hazrat Sahib went awat…..Now I regretted my first mistake and repented it and know very well that it is the intoxication of divine knowledge and not that of opium as I first thought.”””
Statement of Qadiani Sahabi, Sheikh Noor Ahmad Sahib, Owner of Riaz Hind press, Al-Fazl, Newspaper, Qadian, vol. 34, No. 194, dated 20th August 1940.
Some announcements that MGA published in terms of BA in 1880, which were included in BA2
“…. Alas! Many among the Muslims have forgotten this blessed principle and such basic great (task) on which the development and elevation of religion was dependent, have totally abandoned it and other nations whose holy scriptures do not instruct them on this issue, out of their hearty actions to promote their religion enthusiastically, practicing the subject of ‘assist’….” (Advertisement dated 1880 in Braheen-e-Ahmadiyya part 2, Majmoo-e-Ishtihaarat, Collection of Advertisements, vol.1 p. 36).
Some announcements that MGA published in terms of BA in 1882, after BA1-2
“… now the real cost of the book is Rs.100 and instead Rs.10 or 25 was fixed. Thus even this small amount if Muslims do not pay in advance then as if they are obstructing this task from fulfilling….” (Advertisement dated 1882 in Braheen-e-Ahmadiyya part 3, Majmoo-e-Ishtihaarat, Collection of Advertisements, vol.1 p. 34).
“Although there is a big group of Muslims in this country Hindustan and some of them are well-off and well-heeled, except for a small group (of rich, ministers and office-bearers), most are coward, closed-hearted and miser in participating in good deeds, their thoughts are just limited to their carnal desires and their minds are putrid with worthless self-sufficiency. These people do not consider religion and requirements of religion as an entity. Yes on the occasion of their name and honour they are ready to squander away their entire household.” (Advertisement dated 1880 in Braheen-e-Ahmadiyya part 2, Majmoo-e-Ishtihaarat, Collection of Advertisements, vol.1 p. 36)
“Purely for religion, ambitious Muslims (like My Lord and My Master Hazrat Khalifa Syed Mohammed Hasan Khan Saheb Bahadur, Prime Minister, Patiala) are so few that there is no need to count them on fingers.” (Advertisement dated 1880 in Braheen-e-Ahmadiyya part 2, Majmoo-e-Ishtihaarat, Collection of Advertisements, vol.1 p. 36)
“…. certain people even if they spend on religious matters, they do so in ritualistic manner, not actually with the intention of completing some requirement. For instance, seeing someone making a mosque, another one who is his opponent will also make a mosque in competition and whether it is really needed or not, but he spends thousands of rupees. Nobody thinks that in this age most important is to publish the religious knowledge, and they do not realize that if people will not remain religious who will pray in these mosques; they want the strength and growth of religion only with strong and tall minarets of stones, and only with beautifully calligraphic marbles they want the beauty of their religion …… like Jews want to become only superficial observers. Neither they perform the obligations of religions appropriately, nor they know how to perform it, nor do they care about knowing it.” (Advertisement dated 1880 in Braheen-e-Ahmadiyya part 2, Majmoo-e-Ishtihaarat, Collection of Advertisements, vol.1 p. 36-37)
“Although this is admitted that our nation spend uncountable amount on so-called charities and alms but alas many people do not what is the real good deed and in the distribution of money they do not observe what is better and appropriate place (to spend), and blindly keep on spending inappropriately. And when they have exhausted all their hearty desires on spending at such unsuitable places, then on the occasion of real obligation they are incapable to spend……. this is the character of those in whom because of truth of spirit does not excite the power of benevolence and beneficence, rather only with their own greed; for instance after getting old in old age the desire arises to get an excuse of getting ease in the hereafter by making a mosque and getting a constructed house in paradise. And their empathy for real good deed is such that if the entire boat of Religion sinks in front of their eyes or the entire religion is destroyed at once, yet their heart does not move a bit and they don’t care about the religion remaining or vanishing. If they have the pain, it is for the world, if anguish it is for the world, if love it is for the world, if they trade it is for the world, and world also as other nations have it they do not possess.” (Advertisement dated 1880 in Braheen-e-Ahmadiyya part 2, Majmoo-e-Ishtihaarat, Collection of Advertisements, vol.1 p. 37-38)
“Since this (book) was a GREAT VICTORY on opponents of Islam and the goal of the heart and life of believers, therefore I had great trust on the ambitions of Rich people of Islam that they will greatly value such astounding book and whatever hardships are coming in the way of publishing such a book, they would whole-heartedly pay attention in removing them, but what can we say and what can we write, and what can we write. Allah is the helper and Allah is better and will remain. (This is what happens when one is looking at the pockets of people rather than having trust in Allah – Rashid) (Advertisement dated 1880 in Braheen-e-Ahmadiyya part 2, Majmoo-e-Ishtihaarat, Collection of Advertisements, vol.1 p. 38)
“150 copies of first part that had been published, I had sent them to BIG AMEERS and RICH PEOPLE and LORDS and it was hoped that the courageous rich people will send the price of book (which is very small) in advance ….. but except for one or two there was silence from everyone.” (Advertisement dated 1880 in Braheen-e-Ahmadiyya part 2, Majmoo-e-Ishtihaarat, Collection of Advertisements, vol.1 p. 38)
“Arya Nation (Hindus) are so ambitious and motivated and united nation that on a trivial matter which has no basis in their religion they get united and thousands of rupees are collected in no time. Thus such a nation which can unite ambitious and get motivated on useless matter, one can imagine what they would do for some grand matter. Apathetic Muslims should bury themselves alive. If they do not have love for God and Prophet why do they claim Islam. Is this Islam that they spend unlimited amount on wicked (Khabees) things and following their carnal desires and with the intention of upholding their honour, and spending not even a single penny on the love of God and Prophet and sympathy…” (Advertisement dated 1880 in Braheen-e-Ahmadiyya part 2, Majmoo-e-Ishtihaarat, Collection of Advertisements, vol.1 p. 51)
“Most Muslim ameers (rich men) considers that religion is such a thing which needs help from poor people and rich are exempted from it, who should not even share this burden.” (Advertisement dated 1880 in Braheen-e-Ahmadiyya part 2, Majmoo-e-Ishtihaarat, Collection of Advertisements, vol.1 p. 51)
“Although I had advertised that because of the increase in volume of the book, price of Rs.100 is appropriate so that those who can afford it will act accordingly, since it was sold to the poor for only Rs.10 …… but except for 7/ 8 persons everyone entered the fold of poor …” (Advertisement dated 1880 in Braheen-e-Ahmadiyya part 2, Majmoo-e-Ishtihaarat, Collection of Advertisements, vol.1 p. 51)
“Miser and stasher Muslims who are known by big titles and names and like Qaroon are stashing away lot of money ….. ” (Advertisement dated 1880 in Braheen-e-Ahmadiyya part 2, Majmoo-e-Ishtihaarat, Collection of Advertisements, vol.1 p. 52)
The content
Mirza Ghulam Ahmad starts off his career as a book-writer by inserting an announcement in BA-Vol. 1. This announcement tells how MGA is in so much of a difficulty in getting this book published, MGA complains of the cost and etc etc etc, however, MGA could have used his own money to fund this book and thus solved all of these problems. However, as we know, MGA never spent his own money, he always spent other people’s money.
MGA then proceeds to give a list of donors. MGA goes on to write 9 pages of begging for money and additional names of donors. MGA had promised 300 arguments in support of Islam, however, he has just wasted 20+ pages with silly announcements and etc.
Then, MGA inserts his silly poetry. 20 pages of persian poetry. And no arguments in support of Islam.
In MGA’s poetry, his claim of being equal to Muhammad (saw) exists
This is very interesting, in MGA’s poetry, he writes about prophets, and how prophets are sent to all people and the need for prophets and etc etc.
“””He is Ahmad of the latter days,..”
Ahmad of the latter days?
Who is the Ahmad of the latter days? See, in this instance, MGA is actually referring to himself as the Muhammad (saw) of the latter days. MGA goes on to make arguments for the importance of divine revelation—in other words, he is making a case for his own divine revelations.
MGA then writes a 2-page essay on his arguments–with huge FONT
Since MGA is a terrible writer at this point in his life, he proceeds to use HUGE FONT as he writes a 2-page diatribe on “arguments” and how someone should respond to his arguments and etc etc. Its really nonsense.
Then the book ends
This entire book is garbage, MGA filled it up with his silly poetry and announcements, there is no content.
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July 26, 2018 at 7:48 pm
I am an Ahmadi Muslim. We are blessed to be under the guidance of Khilafat and to be followers of the Promised Messiah (Peace Be Upon Him), along with the knowledge of the true teachings of our Beloved Holy Prophet (Peace and Blessings of Allah Be Upon Him). It is disrespectful in the regard that you imply hatred and nonacceptance of Ahmadi Muslims in this article. I humbly advise you to read several of The Promised Messiah’s books such as: The Philosophy of The Teachings of Islam, Nishane-e-Asmani, Asmani-Faisala, Noah’s Ark, and the five volumes of Barahin-e-Ahmadiyya.
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July 26, 2018 at 7:54 pm
@fozan
1. You aren’t blessed. You are brainwashed and robbed of your money.
2. I was an Ahmadi for 35 years. I know Ahmadiyya. I have read 50+ books by MGA and his team and 1000 additional books on Ahmadiyya. Even from Lahori-Ahmadi authors. So give it a rest.
3. I have read all of the Braheen’s, except vol. 5, which is still in urdu. And FYI..MGA didn’t have anything to do with BA5, Noorudin wrote it.
4. Finally, I wrote an extended review…you didn’t comment on any of that data. Is it bigotry?
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August 9, 2018 at 5:11 pm
Assalamu Alaikum. My apologies for not greeting with Salam during my previous comment.
Here is my feedback on your responses:
1. Sure that thought is up to you since anyone is entitled to hold their own opinions. However just to clear the idea of “to be blessed”, I am not calling myself blessed just for the fact that I am an Ahmadi Muslim, because it is Allah Who knows deep in the hearts and Who is the Master and Judge of all decisions. From the sayings of The Holy Prophet (sa), no individual has the superiority over another. So it is not in our respective right as Muslims to call someone blessed or not because it is not we who are the judges of peoples faith. What I am saying is that our Jama’at is blessed to be in the path of the True Islam and direct guidance through Khilafat. Please read below.
In the books, have you not read a single revelation that came true for The Promised Messiah (as). From false murder accusations, court trials, death threats, protection from the plague, there are hundreds of revelations bestowed upon on The Promised Messiah (as) on how he would be safeguarded from the disbelievers, all which is recorded in great depth in his books. How can someone still remain in the darkness and claim all of this to a mere conspiracy or way of luck? It was a prophecy from the time of our Beloved Holy Prophet (sa) that there will come a Messiah, who will be of Persian Decent, who will be the reformer of the latter days, and it will be his Jama’at that will hold the truth until the Day of Judgement. The Holy Prophet Muhammad (sa) prophesied that the Promised Messiah (as) would be raised near a white minaret, east of Damascus. This prophecy was fulfilled with the advent of the Promised Messiah (as) from Qadian, India, a city directly east of Damascus.
Has anyone not realized that there were countless enemies back then who held the same beliefs as the enemies today, who tried to prove this Jama’at wrong, who tried to annihilate The Promised Messiah’s (as) presence, who went so far as to spending their entire life and cause in the hopes of destroying this Jama’at. And what was the outcome… no one succeeded. None could touch or even come close to the Irrefutable, Undeniable, Truthful arguments of The Promised Messiah (as). And look now, if it seems to people that this Jama’at is not blessed, then why hasn’t our Jama’at stopped from growing? Why hasn’t it stopped from preaching to others, or having hundreds of thousands of converts each year (over 500,000 this year), or holding peace conferences, or reaching global audiences through the use of Media around the world? It is because it was the prophecy, “I shall cause thy message to reach the corners of the earth”.
2. I don’t understand this response at all. In other words……what now? Are you in a state of full submission to Allah and living in the realm of spiritual comfort now that you have stepped out of Jama’at Ahmadiyya? Clearly, this a vague, non-credible statement you are saying by being an Ahmadi for 35 years, having read all the books, and yet still you are holding doubts after so many prophecies within the book were fulfilled, while none of The Promised Messiah’s (as) arguments contradicted The Holy Quran. Indeed, there seems to be some other source which mislead you out of the Jama’at. If not, then what is your belief or current stance in Islam now?
I look forward to hearing an intellectual argument from you; one that has not been answered by The Promised Messiah (as), one that has enough power to erase the entire stance of our Jama’at, (ex. The Concept of Reason and Revelation, Philosophy of Islam, Misconceptions in the Context of The Holy Quran, etc.). This task will not be possible. Good Luck.
3) I don’t understand this response either. What does this have to do with anything? For the sake of argument, even if a work was to be continued by a Khalifa, what made someone believe that the writings would be false and would contradict the Prophet’s own words? It’s through Divine guidance that has caused this Jama’at to spread and win the hearts as it has been promised. For simplicity and easing people’s confusion, I kindly ask you to please read this link: http://ahmadianswers.com/ahmad/allegations/writings/volumes/
4) As an Ahmadi Muslim, we do not question the decisions or actions by a Prophet of Allah. You seem to understand little about some of the context in many books such as; the conditions of the time, publishing costs, names of those who sacrificed their wealth or bought large quantities of books to distribute, or those who partook in the scheme of publishing magazines, one of them is Review of Religions, which has started since 1902. Please also take a look at this link: https://www.alislam.org/library/articles/introducing-books-promised-messiah/
Wasaalam.
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August 10, 2018 at 9:19 pm
@ fozan
Firstly, you didn’t comment on this topic at all, which is about Braheen-e-Ahmadiyya vol.-1. You totally avoided it, in typical Qadiani fashion. Secondly, you gave the Qadiani scripted 1st grade level of arguments. SMH…nonetheless, a refutation is given.
1. Thanks for admitting that no one is blessed. It’s too hard to figure out. Is Donald Trump blessed? See, your argument collapses easily.
1.a. Then you wrote:
“””In the books, have you not read a single revelation that came true for The Promised Messiah (as). From false murder accusations, court trials, death threats, protection from the plague, there are hundreds of revelations bestowed upon on The Promised Messiah (as) on how he would be safeguarded from the disbelievers, all which is recorded in great depth in his books. How can someone still remain in the darkness and claim all of this to a mere conspiracy or way of luck? “””
1.b. None of MGA’s opium induced dreams came true, have you heard of the Muhammadi Begum saga?
1.c. MGA was above the law in British India, hence, he was acquitted of all crimes, even when he admitted fault. See here: https://ahmadiyyafactcheckblog.com/?s=above+the+law and here: https://ahmadiyyafactcheckblog.com/2017/07/16/mirza-ghulam-ahmad-was-bailed-out-of-prison-in-1904-well-almost/
1.d. See, you have underestimated by scholarship on Ahmadiyya. And what about Mormonism? Scientology? Why are these non-profit corporations growing? And what about Jehova Witnesses?
1.e. You wrote:
“””It was a was a prophecy from the time of our Beloved Holy Prophet (sa) that there will come a Messiah, who will be of Persian Decent, who will be the reformer of the latter days, and it will be his Jama’at that will hold the truth until the Day of Judgement. “”
1.e. There is no such prophecy…you have been lied to. What you are trying to refer to is hadith about Salman the Farsi. However, no where in that hadith was messiah, mahdi or prophet related.
You seem to be a rookie or a very BASIC Ahmadi. And its obvious you haven’t read the counter arguments.
1.f. Then you wrote:
“”The Holy Prophet Muhammad (sa) prophesied that the Promised Messiah (as) would be raised near a white minaret, east of Damascus. This prophecy was fulfilled with the advent of the Promised Messiah (as) from Qadian, India, a city directly east of Damascus.”””
1.f. You have twisted another hadith…the hadith stated that Esa (As) only, would descend just east of Damascus, not 1000+ miles east or west. And MGA was forced to build a minaret, since there were none in Qadian.
1.g. Then, you continue in your stupidty and write:
“”Has anyone not realized that there were countless enemies back then who held the same beliefs as the enemies today, who tried to prove this Jama’at wrong, who tried to annihilate The Promised Messiah’s (as) presence, who went so far as to spending their entire life and cause in the hopes of destroying this Jama’at. And what was the outcome… no one succeeded. None could touch or even come close to the Irrefutable, Undeniable, Truthful arguments of The Promised Messiah (as). And look now, if it seems to people that this Jama’at is not blessed, then why hasn’t our Jama’at stopped from growing? Why hasn’t it stopped from preaching to others, or having hundreds of thousands of converts each year (over 500,000 this year), or holding peace conferences, or reaching global audiences through the use of Media around the world? It is because it was the prophecy, “I shall cause thy message to reach the corners of the earth”.”””
1.g. What about Christianity? why hasnt anyone stopped that? What about Hindusim? See….your arguments are stupid and non-sensical. This is why people were never given freedom of religion…because people are stupid and dumb and would create their own religions and etc.
2. I am just a Muslim, I don’t do sectarianism. I go to whatever mosque I feel like, and don’t follow any imams. Is that clear?
3. Ok..i dont understand your response here, be more clear. The split in the Ahmadiyya movement proves that the mirza family took over and raped their followers for money and labor. I have read those links…what do you want me to respond to specifically?
4. That’s exactly my point…you idiots never questioned MGA, thats the biggest problem here. Nowadays, you won’t question the Khalifa, so not much has changed. Muslims questioned Muhammad (saw) all the time…thats why hadith exist.
4.a. Muhammad ALi was the editor of the ROR…he told the world that Qadianism was a family business 12 years after this newspaper started.
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August 20, 2018 at 5:15 pm
Alright Then @ Ahmadiyyafactcheckblog
It seems that you are firm in your decision being against Jama’at Ahmadiyyat. I will not continue this argument any further because there is no point in clarifying misconceptions when you are going to disbelieve regardless or spend your time inciting hatred towards us. Our way is Love For All Hatred For None. We do not speak against anyone or ever promote hatred, our purpose is Tabligh through peaceful methods. It is other Muslims like yourself who initiate these schemes against us, and our soul purpose is not to retaliate or speak against, but to deal these issues through peaceful ways and through prayers.
People back in history did not believe, as was the case from those who denied the Prophets of Allah. And it was they who were the losers of the earth. And now we see this in the form of all the sects of Muslims who together enjoin in one decision, and that is to call us Kafirs. When did it ever come in Islamic teaching that Muslims can publicly call others kafirs? It seems that many Muslims are going against the teachings of Islam as to call us Kafirs. We believe in the five pillars of Islam, we live our lives through reciting the Kalima. How then can you call us Non-Muslims when we clearly believe in these Islamic Principles? You do not have the capacity to read someone’s heart or mind and declare them to be a Non-Muslim after they claim to believe in the Kalima, because it is only Allah who knows what is in the Hearts.
Let it be clear, that we only deal with issues through means of peace, prayer, and from the teachings of the Holy Quran. We do not call others Kafirs regardless of what their opinions are because it is not in our teaching to Judge others. We do not incite hatred, and we do not spread messages of hatred and falsity of other faiths or sects like you intend to do of us. We believe in the Kalima, we believe in The Holy Prophet (SA) as being Khataman Nabiyyeen (Seal of the Prophets). We believe in The Promised Messiah (as) as being the reformer who was a Non-Law bearing Prophet and being a servant of The Holy Prophet, peace and blessings of Allah be upon him. But somehow, Muslims completely take this out of context and think that we believe in a new prophet with a new superior teaching. This is wrong. We believe that The Promised Messiah (as) came to revive the teachings of Islam which was becoming dead through the age of time and people. Please look at this link: https://www.alislam.org/library/book/truth-about-ahmadiyyat/claim-promised-messiah/.
You are probably realizing that I am not answering your questions, not because I can’t, there is a sea of knowledge in our Jama’at, it is because I am trying to refresh the simple teachings of Islam as to what is right and wrong. You don’t believe in our Jama’at, fine that is up to you. You will eventually try to find more and more things to argue back. But your efforts of spreading messages of hatred and non-acceptance of Ahmadis as well as Hazrat Mirza Ghulam Ahmad (as) needs to stop because it is already contrary to Islamic teachings to call others as Non-Muslims, which you seem to enjoy doing.
So overall, we believe in The Promised Messiah (as) and you don’t. We don’t call anyone abusive things or argue for the purpose of humiliating others. But on the other hand, this seems to be the only resort which other sects seem to speak of us. Am I wrong?
I will not debate anymore.
Wasalaam.
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August 20, 2018 at 7:26 pm
@ fozan
You proved my #1 point vs. Ahmadiyya, i.e. Ahmadi’s wont take the time to thoroughly analyze Ahmadiyya, they run from discussions, and use ready made arguments, without researching for themselves.
1. Love for All and Hatred for None only started in 1980. I bet you didn’t know that. Further, the first generation of Rabwah born Ahmadi’s attacked a train full of teenagers and beat them bloody. Maybe you didn’t know? Look it up. Further, in 1947, your Khalifa authorized violent Jihad. Did you know? So stop playing victim. Moreover, in 1937, an Ahmadi killed an Ex-Ahmadi in broad daylight in Qadian. Did you know? See you are probably ignorant of all these things.
2. Your tabligh is not peaceful, you push your agenda onto to others. You consider religious freedom as the right to prostelize. That’s false, religous freedom is only in terms of practice, not tabligh. In fact, in 1974, young Ahmadi’s were doing tabligh, then they planned an attack. So, there is the proof that Ahmadi’s shouldnt be allowed to do tabligh. Your tabligh is offensive. Its like selling pork in Pakistan. Its banned.
3. Then you claim that Muslims are being punished because we denied MGA as a prophet, and you give the examples of other prophets. Firstly, you arent suppose to compare prophets, there are many hadith in this regard. Prophets were all different and have different rules. Further, the messiah wasnt supposed to be rejected by Muslims, we was supposed to be unanimously accepted and he would end christianity and judaism, which MGA didnt. Further, the imam mahdi would conquer the world, and these 2 people would work together. But you dont know any of these things. So what should we do?
4. Ahmadi’s called all Muslims as Kafirs from 1906 to 1923. The lahori-ahmadis split with you guys on this very topic. Maybe you didnt know. Further, the NA of 1974 declared you as non-muslim, in fact, the mirza family wanted to be declared as non-muslim, for asylum cases and etc. and to move your headquarters out of rabwah. Its an inside job, so stop it.
5. You add MGA into the Kalima, thats the issue. You consider MGA=Muhammad and vice versa. This is the issue. And you consider us Kafir since we reject your prophet, you even quoted the quran.
I just covered all of your silly questions and assertions. If you need the refs, LMK…if not, bounce.
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August 22, 2018 at 7:49 pm
I’m afraid you’re reading biased point of views about our Jama’at written by Non-Ahmadis or those clerics who tried to convince you otherwise through false notations and wrong reasons. On the day of Judgement, then we will see which Jama’at appears victorious. Wasalaam.
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August 23, 2018 at 2:34 am
@ Fozan
That is the most classical answer from the Ahmadi’s. This is when someone is in full denial.
Be a man and go through our arguments.
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