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From 1901 to roughly 1924 Ahmadis believed MGA=Muhammad



Intro

Ahmadiyya beliefs are always changing.  In the earlier years, they changed a lot.  After MGA died, they continued to change.  In 1914, they kept changing.  MGA’s sons did Takfir on the entire Muslim world. However, by 1924, they stopped.  Maybe it was their private meeting by the Queen of England in 1924?  Nonetheless, in the below, I have found yet another quotation from the infamous book, “Kalimat ul Fasl” (1916) wherein MGA is described as on equal footing with Muhammad (Saw) (naozobillah).  However, this is what the Qadiani-Ahmadis believed.  There are many other instances from this era which prove my assertion.  

1.  Zaheeruddin Akmal was claiming that MGA was a law-bearing prophet in 1911.
2.  MGA abrogated jihad in 1900 and was thus a law-bearing prophet.
3.  MGA=Muhammad and vice versa
4.  MGA was the person allah spoke about in the famous “Ismuhu-Ahmad” verse of the Quran.

The Quote
“Every messenger was granted accomplishments and perfections according to his capacity and performance in varying degrees, but the Promised Messiah (Mirza Ghulam) was granted prophethood when he had attained all the accomplishments of the Prophethood of Muhammad(SAW) and was qualified to be called a shadow prophet. Thus, this shadow prophethood did not make the steps of the Promised Messiah lag behind, but it pushed them forward to such an extent that it brought him on equal footing with the holy Prophet(SAW). “
( Kalimat-ul-Fasl , P. 113, by Mirza Basheer Ahmad Qadiani)(1916).

Some additional quotes from this era, and from Ahmadis

1.  “His messengers (rusuluhu) is encountered in the Quran or in a declaration of faith, Ghulam Ahmad must be considered one of them.  Belief in him is a part of Islamic faith and is, as such, necessary for the attainment of salvation (madar-i najat)” (“Nabi-ullah Ka Zahoor” aka “Appearance of the Prophet of Allah” (1911) by Muhammad Zahir al-Din, see pages 8, 71 and 99)(From Friedman, page 152, 2003 edition).  

2.  “If the Promised Messiah is rejected or considered in his claim (heaven forbid!) a liar and a cheat—the inevitable result will be the loss of prophethood of Muhammad….as well”  (“Nabi-ullah Ka Zahoor”: aka “Appearance of the Prophet of Allah” (1911) by Muhammad Zahir al-Din, see page 80)(From Friedman, page 152, 2003 edition).

1901, from Khutbah Ilhamia
“One who denies that the mission of the Prophet(SAW) is related to the 6th thousand (13th century) as it was related to 5th thousand (6th century), denies the truth and the text of the Quran and is among the zalemeen (gone astray). The truth is that the spiritual power of the holy Prophet(SAW) at the end of the 6th thousand (13th century in Mirza Ghulam), i.e. these days, is MUCH STRONGER, MORE COMPLETE and STRONGER than in THOSE EARLY YEARS . Nay, it is like the fourteenth (moonlit) night (full moon).”
(Khutbah-e-Ilhamiah, Roohany Khazaen, Vol. 16, P. 271-272; Khutbah-e-Ilhamiah, P. 181)

1901, from Khutbah Ilhamia

“And Allah sent down upon me the bounty of the Holy Prophet and made it perfect; and he drew towards me the kindness and generosity of the merciful Prophet, so that I became one with him. Thus, he who joins my group, joins the group of the companions (Sahaba) of my Leader, the best of messengers. It is not hidden from those who have the ability to think that this is what the words “Akhareen Menhom” (others of them) mean. The person who makes a difference between me and the Mustafa has neither seen me nor recognized me.” Khutba-e-Ilhamiah, Roohany Khazaen, Vol. 16, P. 258 – 259.

The scan

John Rippon rips the Ahmadiyya belief that Esa (As) =Yuz Asaph and was buried in Kashmir

The data
The shrine is first mentioned in the Waqi’at-i-Kashmir (Story of Kashmir, published 1747), also known as the Tarikh Azami (History by Azam)[13] by the Khwaja Muhammad Azam Didamari, a local Srinagar Sufi writer. Muhammed Azam states that the tomb is of a foreign prophet and prince, Yuzasuf, or in modern local Kashimiri transcription Youza Asouph. The name may derive from the Urdu “Yuzasaf” in the legend of Balauhar and Yuzasaf, Yuzasaf being a name for Gautama Buddha.[14] Yuzasaf occurs as a spelling in the Rasail Ikhwan al-Safa of the Brethren of Purity and other sources.[15] David Marshall Lang (1960) notes that the connection of the Buddhist Yuzasaf with Kashmir in part results from a printing error in the Bombay Arabic edition referencing the legend of the Wisdom of Balahvar which makes its hero prince Yuzasaf die in “Kashmir” (Arabic: كشمير) by confusion with Kushinara (Pali: كوشينر), the traditional place of the original Buddha’s death.[16][17]

Per Beskow in The Blackwell Companion to Jesus ed. Delbert Burkett 2011 “Only later did Ahmad’s disciples invent the compromise that Jesus had been twice in India. Ahmad’s primary source is a legend, known in the West as the tale of Barlaam and Josaphat. It was widely read all through the Middle Ages as an edifying… Yuzasaf as the principal character is named in Urdu, is helped on his way by the wise Bilhawar … Ahmad divided Yuzasaf in two: Yuz Asaf. He declared that Yuz signified Jesus (who is not called by that name in any”

John Rippon in Journal of Ecclesiastical History Volume 18, Issue 02, October 1967, pp 247–248, online “In The Wisdom of Balahvar Professor Lang assembled the evidence for the Buddhist origins of the legends of the Christian saints Barlaam and Josephat. He suggested the importance of Arabic intermediaries, showing that confusion of diacritical markings turned Budhasaf (Bodhisattva, the Buddha-to-be) into Yudasaf, Iodasaph, Yuzasaf and Josaphat. By a curious roundabout journey this error reappears in once Buddhist Kashmir where the modern Ahmadiyya Muslims, well known for their Woking mosque, claim that a tomb of Yus Asaf was the tomb of Jesus who died in Kashmir, after having been taken down live from the cross; though though the Bombay Arabic edition of the book Balahvar makes its hero die in Kashmir, by confusion with Kushinara the traditional place of the Buddha’s death.”

From 1914–1922, The Qadiani Ahmadis argued that MGA=Muhammad (saw) (nauzobillah)

Intro
The Qadiani branch of Ahmadis is very vicious and corporation like.  They have changed their beliefs many times whenever it is expedient.  In the era wherein Mahmud Ahmad stole the Khilafat, that is 1914–1922, he presented Ahmadiyya very differently then his Lahori-Ahmadi counterparts.  In fact, the Lahori’s diluted the position of MGA (see Truth Prevails, 1965) in 1912-1914 and then continued to do so until today.  However, the Qadianis were bolder…they presented MGA in his full grandeur.  Below is a quote wherein MGA is equated to Muhammad (SaW) (nauzobillah).  They also did Takfir in this era….and then stopped after 1922…..most likely in an attempt to work with the Khilafat movement in India.  

The Quote
“The entity of the promised Masih (Mirza), in the sight of Allah is the entity of the Holy Prophet (SAW). In other words, in the records of Allah there is no duality or difference between the promised Masih and the Holy Prophet (SAW). Rather they both share the same eminence, the same rank, the same status and the same name . …”. (Al-Fazl, Qadian, vol.3, No.37, dated 16th September 1915, as cited in Qadiani Mazhab page 207, 9th edition, Lahore)

In Ahmadiyya, “””Islam= the revelations of MGA+the Quran””

Intro
The Sunni-version of Islam is as follows, Hadith+Sunnah+the Quran=Islam.  It is common sense that the Quran without the hadith/sunnah is incomplete.  The Quranist has faded away into the annals of islamic thought by 1800.  However, Sir Syed revived this theory of Islam in the 1870’s. Some of his admirers were Noorudin, Abdul Kareem, MGA and Mufti Sadiq.  Sir Syed had even wrote that Esa (as) was never returning (1882) and he denied all concepts of the Mahdi.

The evidence that Ahmadis believe Islam= the revelations of MGA+the Quran
“the basis for our claim is not hadith but Quran and that wahi which comes to us.  Yes, in support we also quote those hadith which are according to Quran and do not contradict my wahi.  As for the rest of the hadiths, i throw them away like waste paper..” (See RK: vol: 19, pg. 140, 1902-1902 era).  “””Ijaz e ahmadi”””

The scan work
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Conclusions
Ahmadis have a unique system of interpreting Islam.  However, they think its a norm, or they openly lie about it just to confuse the masses.  Ahmadiyya is like selling pork.  Some people may be fooled, however, the majority will resist.

One more thing
In 1895, MGA wrote some different things on his formula of what Islam is…check this out:

“Of the other books that are accepted by us the Sahih of Bukhari ranks as the first. All its Ahadith which are not opposed to the Holy Qur’an are in our view authoritative. Next comes Sahih Muslim. We accept its authority subject to the condition that it should not be opposed to the Holy Qur’an and Sahih Bukhari. Next to them are the compilations of Tirmidhi, Ibn-e-Majah, Muattah of Imam Malik, Nassa’i, Abu Da’ud and Dar Qutni, which we regard as authoritative so long as they are not opposed to the Holy Qur’an and Bukhari and Muslim. These are our religious books and these are the conditions under which we accept them….(…)”
[Arya Dharam, Ruhani Khaza’in, vol. 10, pp. 86-87]

 

Who is Muhammadi Begum? 1875–1966

Intro
Per Ahmadiyya sources she was a triple-niece of MGA.  MGA was her uncle in 3 ways and maybe more, MGA’s sister was married to her paternal big uncles.  Per Ahmadiyya sources, she was born in 1874/75 (see Dard, page 330).  She was thus 13-14 when MGA was asking to marry her per Ahmadiyya sources, however, she was most likely 9-10.  MGA had most likely seen her as an infant, since he was her uncle in 3-4 ways, thus, he had seen her a lot.  MGA and Mirza Ahmad Baig seem to have been friendly to each other even after MGA had his war with his cousins over land.  Nevertheless, in 1888, Mirza Ahmad Baig met with MGA and asked MGA to sign over “lucrative” property rights which belonged to MGA’s cousin, Mirza Ghulam Hussain, who had went missing around 1865, and was co-incidentally married to Mirza Ahmad Baig’s sister.  MGA responded by asking to marry Mirza Ahmad Baig’s 13-14-year old daughter, Mirza Ahmad Baig immediately refused.  This kicked off a public war wherein the entire Mirza family was opposed to MGA.  In fact, it is not too far-fetched to say that the life and career of MGA was shaped by his love of Muhammadi Begum.  Birth of sons, death threats against others, Batalvi feud, Christian feud (Christian paper published letters to Muhammadi Begum family) which led to the Atham saga, which then led to the maseel maseeh and maseeh mauood stuff.  MGA kept upping the ante.  The whole ‘promised son’ seems like a ruse to get Muhammadi Begum’s dad interested in him, implying that if Muhammadi Begum marries MGA, the son would be the inheritor to all of his spiritual and worldly legacy.

January 1886
In 1888 MGA claims that he mentioned a prophecy to Mirza Ahmad Baig a few years back (See Dard, page 172).  However, this is lie.  MGA was on good relations with Mirza Ahmad Baig until his father died and court cases were issued between the Mirza family in terms of land disbursement wherein MGA lost (1884).

Feb, 20th 1886
MGA publishes his famous announcement vs. Lekh Ram and about the Promised Son.  By 1888, MGA was connecting his proposed marriage with Muhammadi Begum to this prophecy also.  

June 8th, 1886
MGA writes letters to Noorudin wherein he claims that his God is ordering him to marry again for a 3rd time, and to thus have 3 wives.  These were published after MGA died , hence, they are tampered with.

June 20th, 1886
MGA writes another letter to Nooruddin wherein he says that he is afraid that he is commanded by his God to marry a 3rd time, and this is unavoidable (See Dard pages 173-174) .

February of 1888
Ahmadiyya sources tell us that in roughly February of 1888, Mirza Ahmad Baig seems to have came to Qadian and asked MGA to make a deal.  The issue was that Mirza Ahmad Baig’s sister (Imam Bibi) had been married to MGA’s cousin: Mirza Ghulam Hussain.  Mirza Ghulam Hussain had went missing for roughly 25 years.  He had lots of land in his and his wife’s possession, his wife possessed it for 25 years, however, per the rules of the Mirza family (Not Islam), if a person died with no heir, his land would revert to other family members.  However, this is unislamic, we are unsure where this tradition came from, however, the Mirza family was always playing his land-grabbing game.  Mirza Ahmad Baig and his sister (Imam Bibi) knew that when Imam Bibi would die, the land would revert to MGA at 50% (+Mirza Sultan Ahmad) and 50% to his cousins (see Nuzul ul Masih, via the 2009 online edition of Tadhkirah, pages 190-191) .  MGA knew that Mirza Ahmad Baig was desperate for concessions.  MGA then asked for his daughter in exchange for signing over the property to Mirza Ahmad Baig’s sister.

May 10th, 1888
The maternal uncles of Muhammadi Begum, Mirza Nizam-ud-Din and Mirza Imam-ud-Din, and also others of their party, not only publicized this matter verbally but also had Hazrat Mirza’s letters printed in newspapers to ensure the widest publicity.  Thus, the Nur Afshan published a letter from MGA to Ahmad Baig (See Dard, page 172).

June 1888
The Arya Patrika, Lahore, page 5 also covered the story (See Dard, page 172).

July 10th, 1888
In his Ishtihar he declared that if she was not married to MGA her father would die within three years of her marriage to anyone else, and her husband would die within 30 months and that other calamities would also overtake the family. This was to be a sign for MGA’s cousins and relations, who dared to flout the authority of the Supreme Being (See Dard, page 330).

July 15th, 1888
MGA publishes another announcement about his cousins and their upcoming deaths.

August 1888
By August of 1888, the entire Mirza family was against MGA and his marriage proposal for his niece.  The list includes all family members of MGA, which includes both of his sons, and all of his cousins (see Mujadid e Azim, online abridged version, pages 228-268, specifically page 253).

Aug 1888 to July 1890
2 years of total silence on this topic.

July 17th, 1890
MGA wrote a letter to Mirza Ahmad Baig offering him condolence at the death of his son, Mahmud (See Dard, page 331).

April 7th, 1892
Muhammedi Begum was married to Sultan Muhammad (see Dard, page 334).

July 1892
MGA was dreaming about multiple women, this may have been an indication of the eventual fate of Muhammadi Begum (see the 2009 online edition of Tadhkirah, see pages 256-257).

September 30, 1892
Mirza Ahmad Baig dies (See the 2009 online edition of Tadhkirah, page 188).

February 1893
Ainah Kamalat-e-Islam is published which contains MGA’s prophecy about Mirza Ahmad Baig and Muhammadi Begum.  

The winter of 1893
MGA and his team of writers mentions the death of Mirza Ahmad Baig as a sign of MGA’s truth.  See “Shahada-tul Quran”, in english as “Testimony of the Quran”, see here a link to the english translation by the Lahori-Ahmadi’s.

“””(1) Mirza Ahmad Baig of Hoshiarpur should die within the limit of three years; (2) then his son-in-law, the husband of his elder daughter, should die within two and a half years; (3) Mirza Ahmad Baig should not die before the day of his daughter’s wedding; (4) the daughter too must not die before she is married, and then widowed, and then married a second time; (5) my humble self too should not die till all these events take place; (6) and then she should be married to myself. Obviously these events are not in human control. [Note 6]”””””

1894
Via the Ishaat us Sunnah magazine, Mirza Sultan Muhammad (the husband of Muhammadi Begum) called MGA a liar and a Kafir.

1897
In Anjam-e-Athim, MGA mentions his prophecy vs. his cousins and other close relations.

1901
MGA mentions the faliure of the Muhammadi Begum prophecy but claims that he will marry her as widow.

1902
Ahmadiyya newspapers report on 18 August 1902: Mirza Ahsan Baig formally requested to be part of the Ahmadiyya Jamaat. He was the grandson of Mirza Ahmad Baig, son-in-law of Mirza Ahmad Baig and brother-in-law of Muhammadi Begum.  He was married to one of the younger sisters of Muhammadi Begum.

Oct-1902
“””About eighteen years ago, I had an opportunity to visit Maulavi Muhammad Husain Batalavi, Editor of Isha‘atus- Sunnah at his house. He asked me whether I had received any revelation lately and I mentioned to him the revelation, which I had already mentioned several times to my friends:

[Arabic] A virgin and a widow.

I interpreted this to him and to all others to mean that: God has intended to bring two women to me in marriage—the first time a virgin and the second time a widow. The first part of the revelation, relating to a virgin, has been fulfilled By Allah’s grace, I have four sons from that wife. I await fulfilment of the part about the widow. “””[Tiryaqul-Qulub, p. 34, Ruhani Khaza’in, vol. 15, p. 201](See Also, the 2009 online edition of Tadhkirah, pages 50-51).

1907
In “Haqiqatul Wahy”, MGA mentions Mirza Ahmad Baig on pages, 219-220, 231, 233, 237, 238, 280, 492, 493, 576, 577, 696, 697, 710, 714, 715.  MGA basically says that even though Muhammadi Begum was still alive and married with children, the prophecy was conditional and thus fulfilled.

June-July 1908, Nooruddin comments on the failed prophecy of Muhammadi Begum
“””Now, I would like to remind all the Muslims who have had and still have faith in the Noble Qur’an that since those addressed in it include also their offsprings, successors and those like them, then, can this prophecy not include the daughter, of Ahmad Beg, or the daughter of that daughter ? Does your law of inheritance not apply the regulations regarding daughters to their daughters ? And are the offsprings of the Mirza not his agnates ? I had often told dear Mian Mahmood (Mian Bashiruddin Mahmood, a son of the Mirza and the second head of the Qadiani movement after Hakim Nuruddin. ) that even if the Mirza were to die and this girl did hot enter into his wedlock, my adoration of him would remain unshaken.”””” (Review of Religions, Vol. VII, no. 726, June and July, 1908, p. 279 (cited from Qadiani Mazhab).

October 1908
Braheen-e-Ahmadiyya Vol. 5 is published.  MGA mentions Ahmad Baig on pages, 254, 255, 494, 495.

1947
Muhammadi Begum, her husband, family and extended family move to Lahore by force.

1948
Mirza Sultan Muhammad dies.

1966
Muhammadi Begum died on 19 November, 1966, at Lahore, her funeral prayer was led by Molana Shahabuddin of Chowburji who was a disciple of Shaikhul Hind Molana Mahmoodul Hasan. She was buried in Qabrustan Miyani Sahib Lahore.

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The old tomb of Jesus website, Maulvi Abdullah, Khalifa Noorudin and MGA

Intro
Dear readers, about 10-15 years ago, some Ahmadi made a website called “tombofjesus”.  When the tomb of Yuz Asaf was discovered by some Ahmadi’s (1895 or 1896), it was argued by Maulvi Abdullah who was an inhabitant of Kashmir, that since this tomb was that of a prophet, that eliminated all muslims from the equation, thus it must belong to a Jewish prophet.  Muslims strictly believe that the HP was the final prophet, there were no more prophets to come. Muslims only had one prophet, on the other hand the jewish people had many prophets, in other words because of the concept of khatme-nubuwwat, this had to be a jewish prophet. When HMGA recieved this data he also used the ending of prophethood as his main argument in terms of proving that Yus Asaf was not a muslim.

In a letter written to HMGA(1895 or 1896), maulvi Abdullah writes:

“The word nabi is common between the followers of Islam and the Israelites, and as in Islam no prophet came after our Holy Prophet Muhammad, nor could one come, therefore the general Muslims of Kashmir are agreed that this prophet is from before Islam.”

“But because of the ending of prophethood, this excludes the Muslim people. Therefore it is clearly proved that this prophet is an Israelite prophet.”

Then HMGA wrote a footnote to this published letter, in it he comments:

“””””But after the ending of prophethood, no further prophet can come in Islam. Therefore it is settled that he was an Israelite prophet.””””

This argument was contradicted in November of 1901 as MGA claimed prophethood
As we all know, before 1901, MGA and his team denied that MGA was a prophet, however, after November, MGA was a full fledged prophet and thus the entire line of argumentation that was created to prove that Yuz Asaf=Jesus was totally contradicted.

The owners of the “tomb of Jesus” website also felt the same contradiction, they felt the need to add this important note:

Tomb of Jesus Website Comments:

“””””The reader will note that in footnote 2 above, Ghulam Ahmad states that no prophet can come after Muhammad. Therefore, the inhabitant of the Roza Bal must have been a Jewish prophet. Later, though, as his followers believe, and as Ghulam Ahmad explained, God had repeatedly told Ghulam Ahmad that He (God) had appointed Ghulam Ahmad as a follower-prophet of Muhammad.  Ahmadiyya literature reflects that Ghulam Ahmad himself seemed quite stunned by these revelations from God, because, just as other Muslims, he had understood Islam to teach that there could be no prophet of any type coming after Muhammad].””””

Further research showed that ahmadis did not abandon this debate-tactic.  In two books published in the 1930’s and 40’s the same technique was used:

The Tomb of Jesus by Sufi Mutuir Rahman Bengalee, M. A.

See pg. 41

and Where Did Jesus Die? by J. D. Shams

See chapter 13

They wrote the same argument.  That’s unbelievable.  I think these two men felt that this argument alone convinced HMGA that this tomb was in fact that of Jesus.

Who is Khalifa Nooruddin?
This is another person that helped MGA land on the idea that Yuz Asaf= Jesus (see Page 48).
Dard tells us about Khalifa Noorudin as follows, see page 684:

“”””On October 4th, 1899, Ahmadas appealed for funds; and, apart from the permanent needs of the Langar at Qadian and the production of literature, he proposed to send a deputation of three men to Afghanistan, Nisibain, Kerbala, and the Laghman mountains to make further research with regard to the travels of Jesusas. Khalifa Nur-ud-Dinra (Born 1847, died, 2.9.1942) had in this connection made the necessary enquiries in Kashmir.”””

He gave money for the building of the white minaret
Per Dard (page 855), Khalifa Nur-ud-Din, Merchant, Jammu.

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Who is the British Military Officer Captain Montague William Douglas?

Intro
Captain Montague William Douglas also known as M.W. Douglas, District Magistrate, District Gurdaspur in 1897.   Lt. Col Montagu William Douglas CSI, CIE. (1863 – February 1957) was a British soldier and colonial administrator in India. As the Assistant District Commissioner in the Punjab, he investigated the attempted murder allegation made by Henry Martyn Clark against Mirza Ghulam Ahmad, the founder of the Ahmadiyya movement. Ahmad later declared him to be the “Pilate of our time”, superior to the original. In his later life he was a noted advocate of the Oxfordian theory of Shakespeare authorship and was president of the Shakespeare Fellowship for many years.  In 1939, he met with the Ahmadi mullah JD Shams and even presided on a Jalsa in the UK, hence he proved that he colluded with MGA to exonerate him.  In 1897, he was a captain in the British Military as well as a judge, in fact, all British officers doubled as corrupt Judges.

He was born to Edward Douglas, (1831–1867) and Annie Arbuthnot, (b. 1831). In February 1884 he joined the 1st Battalion, North Staffordshire Regiment, switching to the Indian army in 1887. He was promoted to captain in 1895.

In 1891, Douglas married Helen Mary Isabelle Downer (b. 1863). They had three children, Edward Montagu Douglas (b. 1891), Major Archibald Stair Montagu Douglas, MM, (1897–1974),[1] and Helen Elizabeth Douglas (b. 1893).[2][3]

1897

In 1897, having been appointed assistant district commissioner in the Punjab, Douglas was required to investigate the allegations of Henry Martyn Clark against Mirza Ghulam Ahmad. Clark, a Christian missionary, had been approached by a youth named Abdul Hamid, who claimed that Ahmad had sent him to kill Clark. Douglas found Hamid’s claims to be implausible, and that there was evidence that Hamid had been coached. He had also repeatedly changed and even retracted his story. Douglas dismissed the charges. Even after more than forty years he vividly remembered the case and its details. He wrote to J. D. Shams, an Ahmadiyya missionary in London on 29 July 1939, “… the evidence was false and thus I acquitted Mirza Ghulam Ahmad”.[4] The aftermath was presented by Ahmad’s supporters as a triumph, and as evidence of Ahmad’s divine mission.[5] Subsequently, Ahmad compared Douglas favourably with Pontius Pilate, declaring him to be a man of much superior character, stating,

“”””In my opinion, Captain Douglas outshines Pilate in imparting judgment fearlessly and in showing determination and steadfastness … Pilate showed cowardice due to fear of the High Priest and the Elders, and acted in a cowardly manner. But Captain Douglas showed no sign of weakness … Those who are blessed with honour from above do not hanker after worldly honours. This commendable courtesy by the ‘Pilate’ of our time shall be remembered by all my followers when I am gone. He shall be remembered till the end of the world with love and respect.””””[6][7]

In his book Kitab ul Baryyah (An Account of Exoneration) Mirza Ghulam Ahmad has narrated the details of the case.[8]

 

Later career and retirement

Douglas was appointed Deputy Commissioner in 1899, and was promoted to Major on 6 February 1902.[9] He was on the executive committee for the Coronation Durbar at Delhi in 1903. From 1910-1913 he was Deputy Commissioner of the Lylpur District. He then served as Chief Commissioner of the Andaman and Nicobar Islands from 1913–1920.[10][11]

Douglas was honoured as Companion of the Order of the Indian Empire (CIE) in 1903 and as Companion of the Order of the Star of India (CSI) in 1919.

In his retirement he was an advocate of Oxfordian theory of Shakespeare authorship and wrote The Earl of Oxford as “Shakespeare”; an outline of the case (1931).[12] In 1928 he became president of The Shakespeare Fellowship, after the death of its founder George Greenwood. He held the post until 1945. Douglas advocated a “group theory” of Shakespeare authorship with Oxford as the “master mind”.[13] In Lord Oxford and the Shakespeare Group (1952) he expanded his theory, asserting that Oxford’s fellow-contributors were Francis Bacon, Christopher Marlowe, the Earl of Derby, John Lyly and Robert Greene.[14] According to James S. Shapiro Douglas also believed that “Queen Elizabeth had entrusted Oxford to oversee a propaganda department that would produce patriotic plays and pamphlets”.[15]

In his later life he also painted and was among amateurs exhibited at the Royal Academy.

References

  1.  Biographical history of Gonville and Caius College Ernest Stewart Roberts, Edward John Gross – 1948 p169 “Douglas, Archibald Stair Montagu: son of Lieut. -Colonel Montagu William Douglas, CI.E., of Port Blair, Andaman Islands; and Helen Mary ..”
  2. ^ The Douglas Archives
  3. ^ Portraits in the India Office Library and Records p63 India Office Library and Records, Pauline Rohatgi – 1983 “Douglas, Montagu William (1863–1957) Lieut -Colonel. Deputy Commissioner, Punjab 1910-13 FL seated in Delhi Planning Committee group. Photo 206 x 271mm “
  4. ^ Letter dated 29 July 1939 to J D Shams
  5. ^ Muhammad Zafrulla Khan, Ahmadiyyat: the renaissance of Islam, Tabshir Publications, 1978, p.189.
  6. ^ Tadhkirat-ush-Shahadatain, Ruhani Khaza’in, vol. 20, pp. 30-41.
  7. ^ Tadh-Kiratushaha-Datain online
  8. ^ Kitab ul Baryyah
  9. ^ “No. 27428”The London Gazette. 25 April 1902. p. 2795.
  10. ^ List of Rulers Provinces British India
  11. ^ David P. Henige, Colonial governors from the fifteenth century to the present, 1970, p.84
  12. ^ H. N. Gibson, The Shakespeare Claimants: A Critical Survey of the Four Principal Theories Concerning the Authorship of the Shakespearean Plays, Taylor & Francis, 1962, p.73.
  13. ^ R. C. Churchill, Shakespeare and His Betters: A History and a Criticism of the Attempts Which Have Been Made to Prove That Shakespeare’s Works Were Written by Others, Max Reinhardt, London, 1938, p. 51
  14. ^ Schoenbaum, Sam, Shakespeare’s Lives, Oxford University Press, 1991, p.435.
  15. ^ James Shapiro, Contested Will: Who Wrote Shakespeare?, Faber & Faber, 2011, p.216.

 

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Pictures with JD Shams from 1939

Why do Ahmadi’s think that eating swine causes homosexuality?

Intro
Ahmadi’s have been going around for the past 100 years and claiming that the eating of swine makes a person Gay, or LGBTQ.  Where did this come from?  Where did Ahmadi’s get this from?  MGA and his team of writers composed “The Philosophy of the Teachings of Islam” in 1896, in this very book these people ascribed foul and shameless human habits as a direct result of eating swine (pork)(see page 39-40).  However, this theory is totally wrong, homosexuality is prevalent in Afghanistan and Pakistan, wherein there is a Muslim majority of 98%, and swine (pork) is totally banned, thus, this Ahmadiyya-unique-idea is ridiculous.  In fact, many Ahmadi’s in Pakistan are Gay, and they have never ate pork.  Furthermore, the 2nd Khalifa was accused of Gay-behaviors back in 1903 and the 1930’s.

But in Islam, why is the flesh of swine prohibited
It was Chapter 2: 173.  Allah stopped Muslims from eating the flesh of swine.  Chapter 2 was revealed at Medina, as the Prophet arrived, the flesh of swine was most likely already banned in Medina, hence, this revelation only conformed to a societal norm.  The flesh of swine was always avoided since it took longer to cook and contained lots of diseases and etc.  In fact, the jewish people have also avoided swine since the Torah was revealed.

The quote
“”””It is not necessary to enter into a detailed exposition of the foulness of this animal. Everyone
knows that it eats filth and is utterly shameless. Thus the reason for the prohibition of its flesh is obvious, as by the law of nature its flesh would have a foul effect on the body and the soul of one who eats it. As we have already demonstrated food affects a person’s soul and there can be no doubt that the flesh of such a foul animal would also be foul. Even in pre-Islamic times,
Greek physicians had opined that the flesh of this animal particularly damages the faculty of modesty and fosters shamelessness. The eating of carrion is also prohibited in Islamic law for the same reason; that is to say, it affects the moral qualities adversely and is also harmful to physical health. The blood of an animal that is strangled or is beaten to death remains inside the body of the dead animal and they are all carrion. Can the blood of a dead animal stay in the same condition by remaining inside? No, it is obvious that the blood of such an animal is soon corrupted and corrupts the whole flesh. It is established by recent research that the germs in such blood spread a poisonous corruption in the flesh of the dead animal.””””

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What is the Talim-ul-Islam-High School (college) at Qadian and later at Rabwah?

Intro
MGA issued an announcement on September 15, 1897, announcing plans for the establishment of such a school in Qadian (see Mujadid e Azim, page 728, online abridged version.  This was the Middle/High-School that was started by MGA, it started as a middle school but then added a high school in 1900,  most of the teachers were corrupt and passed MGA’s sons even when they failed, it ran from roughly 1898 to 1903.  There were accusations of rampant homosexuality at this school also, which seems to be the reason it was shut down in 1903.  There was also a College launched (launched in 1903) with the same name that was shut down by the British Government in 1905, via the University Act of 1907.  Remember, in 1909, the British government built the biggest building in the history of Qadian as they donated 25,000 rupees to the Ahmadiyya Movement at Qadian.  This allowed the Ahmadiyya movement to purchase 50 acres of land as Noorudin ordered the building of the College, with hostel space,  the first Jamia and the famous Nur Hospital and the famous Nur Mosque.  If it wasn’t for the British government this huge facility would have never been built.  However, the College wasn’t opened until 1944, during WW-2.  In November 1938, Mirza Nasir Ahmad returned to the town of his birth, Qadian, where he was appointed a professor at Jamia Ahmadiyya, the missionary theological training college of the Ahmadiyya Muslim Community. In 1939, he was appointed principal where he remained for five years. From May 1944 to November 1965, he was principal of the Talim-ul-Islam College, first in Qadian, then after partition, in RabwahPakistan.  In 1947, when the college became homeless as a result of the independence of Pakistan in 1947. After operating in an abandoned horse stable for several months, the college shifted to the abandoned building of the D.A.V. College in Lahore. This building was used as a refugee camp for some time, and became badly damaged but was repaired to suit the needs of the college. In 1955, the college moved to its current campus at Rabwah.  From 1948 to 1955, the College was located in Lahore, in fact, an Ahmadi was tragically murdered in 1953 during the the famous 1953 riots.  On Dec. 6th, 1954, the College was opened in Rabwah.  In 1965, Mirza Nasir Ahmad became Khalifa and appointed Qazi M. Aslam as the new principal.  Qazi M. Aslam remained as principal until 1973, when Pakistan nationalized all Colleges and Universities.  Hence, the college closed forever.  The buildings were then used by Ahmadiyya leaders as jamia or other administrative offices.

Some hard data from Dard, page 812-813
“””The middle school (Ta‘limul Islam) at Qadian was raised to the high standard in February 1900, and a boarding house was opened in May 1900. The number of students on the rolls by the end of 1900 was 124. 

The president of the executive committee of the school was Maulawi Nur-ud-Dinra and the General Secretary was M. Muhammad Ali. The Head Master was M. Sher Alira and the second master was Mufti Muhammad Sadiqra.

The classes had not all got rooms and the boys sat in the open space near one another.

The school remained closed for three days on the death of Queen Victoria as a sign of mourning and Ahmadas sent two telegrams (January 24th, 1901) of condolence to the Lieut. Governor of the Punjab and the Viceroy. But on February 23rd, 1901, it was closed for a day on the completion of the I‘jazul Masih as a sign of thanksgiving and rejoicing.

It sent up three students to the Middle Examination in 1900 and all passed, while the Arya
school patronised by Buddha Mal sent up 10 and only one was successful. In 1901 there were nine candidates and of them seven passed. A special sermon was preached in the school for the benefit of students every Monday.””””

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