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Muhammad Hussain Batalvi’s 156-page review of the Barahin-i-Ahmadiyya (1884) free download

Intro
In 1884, after BA4 was published, MGA was immediately called a Kafir by a few of the Ahl-e-hadith ulema of North India. They accused MGA of claiming prophethood in the Barahin. Two brothers Maulana Abdullah and Maulana Muhammad Ludhianvi issued a decree of excommunication against Mirza immediately after he issued first volumes of Barahin Ahmadiyya (See Tarikh e Ahmadiyya).

MGA remained silent, however, MGA’s closed friend and fellow ahl-e-hadith Muslim Syed Muhammad Hussain Batalvi came to MGA’s aid in his own newpaper, the “Isha‘atus-Sunnah” of winter 1884. In his newspaper he defended MGA to those who were doing Takfir on him, He argued that MGA was not really claiming prophethood, it was all a mis-understanding.

In 1902, MGA mentions this incident in “I’jaz-e-Ahmadi”, in english as “Miracle of Ahmad”, he mentions 3 ahl-e-hadith imam’s who called him Kafir: Muhammad, Abdul Aziz and Abdullah. MGA explains that they called him Kafir since MGA had named himself as Eisa (As) and ascribedall the prophecies of Eisa (as) onto himself. Maulvi Muhammad Hussain Batalvi argues on behalf of MGA and told Muhammad, Abdul Aziz and Abdullah (ahl-e-hadith imam’s from Ludhiana) that they were wrong with their assertions, since MGA was also claiming that Eisa (As) would physically return in the same book. However, time would tell, MGA was lying. He lied about his prophethood the same way.

MGA never said a word about this topic until 1891. In January of 1891, MGA claimed to be the Messiah and again denied prophethood. However, this time, Syed Muhammad Hussain Batalvi  was at the forefront of the Takfir vs. MGA. MGA kept on denying his prophethood for 10 years, until 1901, wherein he finally claimed prophethood in a sneaky way and backdated it to 1880, when he first published the Barahin-i-Ahmadiyya vol. 1-2.

Nevertheless, in the below, we have made the 156 page review by Syed Muhammad Hussain Batalvi from 1884 available as a free download.
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Muhammad Hussain Batalvi wrote about Mirza Ghulam Ahmad’s circus debate in Delhi in 1891

Intro
We have recently wrote extensively about MGA and his debate in Delhi with Nadhir Hussain in Oct of 1891. We have found additional information from the Ishaat us Sunnah Magazine which explains what MGA did during these debates.

Ishaat us Sunnah, Volume-14 , publication Year 1891, pages 2 onwards: 

MIRZA QADIANI AND HIS CIRCUS IN LUDHIANA AND DEHLI.

In July 1891 Mirza Ghulam Qadiani had a debate with Molana Muhammad Hussain Batalvi at Ludhiana and ran away from there on 31 July. After being humiliated at Ludhiana, Mirza in his Ishtihar dated Ist August 1891, invited Batalvi sb to have debate with him at Lahore. Batalvi sb replied that he is ready to debate with him at Lahore Peshawar or Qadian. Mirza sb backed out.

He then planned to try his luck at Dehli. He reached Dehli in October, 1891, where he published an Ishtihar challenging Molvi Syed Nazir Hussain for a debate he also put the name of Molvi Abdul Haq in his Ishtihar. Mirza Qadiani thought Molvi Nazir and Abdul Haq, due to their old age, would not come to face him and Molana Batalvi would also be far away from Dehli so he would get a “walk over.”

What happened was that Molvi Abdul Haq accepted the challenge and Molana Muhammad Hussain Batalvi (ever chasing MGQ), also reached Dehli. Before the arrival of Molana Muhammad Hussain Batalvi, Mirza Qadiani had negotiated the debate on the following un reasonable terms and conditions:-

a.)Special permission of Deputy Commissioner should be issued in his name.
b.)A European officer should be ever present in the gathering.
c.) Debators should write with their hands and read over to public no munshi or Scribe is permitted.

But when Muhammad Hussain Batalvi reached Dehli, Mirza Qadiani went to Molana Abdul Haq and said your name was mentioned in the debate erroneously . He said I do not want to debate with you. Molvi Abdul Haq said he is ready to withdraw if you publish an ishtihar to this effect. So Mirza sb issued an Ishtihar on 6th of October saying that he do not want to debate with Molvi Abdul haq because he had met him and found him a monk like person. He do not like to interact with govt officials hence he would debate only with Nazir Hussain who may keep Muhammad Hussain Batalvi with him for assistance during debate.

This trick, however failed when Molvi Abdul Haq replied in a published Ishtihar that he can arrange anything and invited Mirza sb to come to the Town Hall on 11th October for this debate otherwise he would be termed as liar. Mean time Muhammad Hussain Batalvi published Ishtihar inviting Mirza sb to have debate with him if he loses than Mirza sb may debate with Molvi Nazir Hussain. He requested him to come to the Chandni Mahal on 11th Oct, 1891 at 9.AM. The ishtihar further states that all terms and conditions laid by you are acceptable and we do not lay any terms and condition from our side. All arrangements have been finalised with the expenditures of hand sum amount.

Mirza sb replied that he hates to debate with Molvi Muhammad Hussain and would have it with Molvi Nazir Hussain only. This refusal was accepted by Molvi Nazir Hussain and Mirza sb was informed that his challenge to Debate with Molvi Nazir Hussain, has been accepted and he must come to Chandni Mahal on 11th Oct. However Mirza sb breached this agreement on the pretext of law and order situation and wrote a letter to defer this debate till Ghulam Qadir would inform Deputy Commissioner.

On 5th October, Molvi Nazir Hussain wrote to Mirza to come to his house and talk to him directly to remove his apprehensions, still Mirza sb refused and said there should be a European officer in the debate. After that 14 letters were sent to Mirza sb for debate from Ulema of Dehli inviting Mirza sb but he refused to all.

One of them was Molvi Abdul Majeed who invited Mirza sb and offered a reward money of Rs 1000/-in case Mirza prove his claims.Molvi Rahim Bakhsh invited Mirza, Molvi Mujaddid Ali Khan too invited Mirza sb for debate on 10th Oct at Masjid Fatehpuri , Molvi Abdul Hamid invited Mirza sb to come to the roof top of his house and he would be at his roof top, there would be Bazar between two and no risk of life would be there, but Mirza sb did not agree and dared not to come out of his heavily guarded house.

Mirza Ghulam Qadiani,s escape from debate of Chandni Mahal brought great humiliations to him. So he thought of washing of this defamation. He brought another Ishtihar dated 17 Oct 1891 wherein he used abusive language against Molvi Nazir Hussain and challenged to declare him liar in his claims and in his arguments under oath in open before general public. Molvi Nazir Hussain went to Jamia Masjid Dehli with general public and sent message to Mirza sb that he is ready to give such statement under oath now come to us in Jamia Masjid and state your claims and arguments before us.

This message was given to Mirza sb through Nawab Saeeduddin Khan of Loharo, Molvi Abdul Majid and Mir Basharat Hussain Kotwal City. Mirza sb refused to this.

After prayer Molvi Abdul Majid, Nawab Saeeduddin Khan and Syed Bashir Hussain Inspector Police went to Mirza sb and asked him to give them in writing that he would repent if Molvi Nazir Hussain rejects his claims and arguments on oath. Mirza sb got puzzled on this demand and remained silent. However, his deputy Mullahs stood up and said we would repent after one month subject to the condition that Molvi Nazir Hussain would not fall ill or suffer from fever and headache during this period.

Subsequently, few questions were asked from Mirza sb through the City Superintendent Sahab Bahdur, as under:-

City Superintendent: why Do you not cut short your arguments and agree to give a written statement.
MGQ and his Side:- we want to talk on the life and death issue of Jesus Pbuh and nothing else.
Molvi Abdul Majid :-We want to settle this issue including all of your claims. Do you have a proof to your claim of Messiah ship.

MGQ and side : same answer.

City Superintendent:- Addressing to Mirza sb, Are you Messiah? If yes what is the proof? Suppose Jesus has died then why should you be considered a Messiah give us a proof?

MGQ. :-Remains silence.

Khwaja Muhammad Yusuf from MGQ side: addressing to Molvi Sahib , Hazrat if someone wants to be muslim why do do you not allow him to be?

Molvi sb. Yes if he repents he is our brother!
Khwaja sb. I can bring his written repentance just now. He would write it down that whatever he wrote against Quraan and Hadis is rejected and he is a muslim.

Mirza sb wrote repentance but in the same language as that of he published in his Ishtihar of 12 October.
Molvi sb. He should write that he seeks repentance from Allah for whatever anti Islam he wrote in Tozihula maram, Fathe Islam and Izala auham.
After few more meaningless exchanges between the parties, the City Superintendent Sahab Bahadur announces to end the proceeding and Mirza sb and his deputy mullahs returned under police escort.

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Who is Syed Muhammad Hussain Batalvi? 1840-1920

Intro
Syed Muhammad Hussain Batalvi (1840-1920) was a contemporary of Mirza Ghulam Ahmad in the Punjab. They were both born during the the last 8-9 years of Sikh rule and were under the Ramgharia Misl, which was annexed into the greater Sikh Empire in roughly 1816 by Ranjit Singh. They were both educated by the same teachers as British rule began in roughly 1850.  Their parents also knew each other, when MGA’s family went to Batala, they always stayed at the ancestoral home of Syed Muhammad Hussain Batalvi. They were both Ahl-e-Hadith Muslims aka Wahabis.  In 1878 Batalvi started the Ishaat us Sunnah magazine and gave MGA space to market his new book-series, the Braheen-e-Ahmadiyya. In 1881, Batalvi gave MGA an exhaustive review and supported MGA’s work via the Ahl-e-Hadith. In 1884, when MGA wanted to get married, Batalvi had a list of young girls with him and shared it with MGA, this is how they found out about the daughter of Mir Nasir Nawab. The Ahl-e-Hadith grew weary of MGA in late 1884 and some even called MGA a Kafir, since MGA was boasting about divine revelations in his book series (the Braheen), neverthless, Batalvi stuck up for MGA yet again. By 1889 they became enemies, since MGA claimed to be the second coming of Esa (as). They organized debates with each other and jousted from their magazines until 1899, when the British government stepped in and absolved MGA and forced Batalvi to never insult MGA ever again (by calling him kafir or otherwise). His disputes with Ahmadiyya seem to have ended here.  However, he did have a famous debate with a Quranist in 1902 and his sons were found at Qadian in 1910, later on they recanted and left Ahmadiyya.
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Out of fear from Ahmadi’s and MGA’s fake prophecies, Batalvi registered to buy a gun (1898-1899), but was denied

Intro
Mirza Ghulam Ahmad was really close friends with Batalvi going back to his childhood days, in fact, they even shared some of the same teachers. However, MGA began praying for people to die as early as 1880, nevertheless, by 1884 he was at odds with the ulema of India in terms of his claim of getting divine revelation. By 1889, MGA had turned on Muslims as he claimed that Esa (As) was dead and never returning and indicating that he (MGA) was an Esa (as) and others could also come. By 1893, he was telling the world that Lekh Ram would die violently, he was thus murdered in Lahore and was still alive until he got to the Mayo Hospital in Lahore and the Ahmadi doctor who just so happened to be on duty let him die (March 6th,1897). Athim was also given many death threats and eventually died of old age, which MGA argued fulfilled his prophecy. MGA beat the case, the same way he beat all of his cases, with the help of the British government. Kashful Ghita was published by the Ahmadiyya jamaat in 1898 in english. In this book MGA denied that he was publishing a death prophecy, he fell back and said it was just a prayer. Furthermore, he denied ever having a dream/ilham which indicated the end of the British Government within 8 years, however, by 1929, many Ahmadi’s came forward and admitted that MGA did in-fact have this dream/ilham, thus proving that MGA lied in his book. The British courts dropped the case vs. MGA and forced him and Batlalvi to sign a 6 clause declaration, wherein both of them agreed to stop insulting each other in the press and to stop doing death prophecies aka Mubahila’s. Thus, the British government ordered MGA to stop his silly death prophecies again. This was because of the help that MGA’s father gave the British in 1857, hence, MGA was above the law in British India. Even when MGA was totally guilty of breaking the law, the Brits pardoned him. MGA had some insults written about Batalvi in his newspaper also (the al-Hakam, however, in court MGA denied any connections to that newspaper). Batalvi never engaged MGA ever again after 1900. Later in 1910, a few of Batalvi’s sons were forcibly taken to Qadian and Batalvi was allowed to publish an essay in the ROR.
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Mirza Ghulam Ahmad vs. Molana Muhammad Hussain Batalvi and Muslims leaders in British-India in August of 1891

Intro
MGA avoided public debates, in fact, he only competed in 5 total debates in his 30- year career (1878–1908), and they were all written debates.  MGA stuttered and was thus incapable of articulating in any language.  In July 1891, MGA had a scheduled debate with Molana Muhammad Hussain Batalvi at Ludhiana and ran away from there on 31 July.

Summary of the scans in the below
( from Ishaat us sunnah Volume-14 , publication Year 1891, pages 2 onwards)

After being humiliated at Ludhiana, Mirza in his Ishtihar dated 1st August 1891, invited Batalvi to have a debate with him at Lahore. Batalvi replied that he is ready to debate with him at Lahore Peshawar or Qadian. However, MGA backed out yet again.

He then planned to try his luck at Dehli. He reached Dehli in October, 1891, where he published an Ishtihar challenging Molvi Syed Nazir Hussain for a debate he also put the name of Molvi Abdul Haq in his Ishtihar. MGA thought Molvi Nazir and Abdul Haq, due to their old age, would not come to face him and Molana Batalvi would also be far away from Dehli so he would get a “walk over.”

What happened was that Molvi Abdul Haq accepted the challenge and Molana Muhammad Hussain Batalvi (ever chasing MGA), also reached Delhi. Before the arrival of Molana Muhammad Hussain Batalvi, MGA had negotiated the debate on the following un reasonable terms and conditions:-

a.)Special permission of Deputy Commissioner should be issued in his name.
b.)A European officer should be ever present in the gathering.
c.) Debators should write with their hands and read over to public no munshi or Scribe is permitted.

But when Muhammad Hussain Batalvi reached Dehli, MGA went to Molana Abdul Haq and said your name was mentioned in the debate erroneously . He said I do not want to debate with you. Molvi Abdul Haq said he is ready to withdraw if you publish an ishtihar to this effect. So MGA issued an Ishtihar on 6th of October saying that he do not want to debate with Molvi Abdul haq because he had met him and found him a monk like person. He do not like to interact with govt officials hence he would debate only with Nazir Hussain who may keep Muhammad Hussain Batalvi with him for assistance during debate.

This trick, however failed when Molvi Abdul Haq replied in a published Ishtihar that he can arrange anything and invited Mirza sb to come to the Town Hall on 11th October for this debate otherwise he would be termed as liar. Mean time Muhammad Hussain Batalvi published Ishtihar inviting MGA to have debate with him if he loses then MGA may debate with Molvi Nazir Hussain. He requested him to come to the Chandni Mahal on 11th Oct, 1891 at 9.AM. The ishtihar further states that all terms and conditions laid by you are acceptable and we do not lay any terms and condition from our side. All arrangements have been finalized with the expenditures of hand sum amount.

MGA replied that he hates to debate with Molvi Muhammad Hussain and would have it with Molvi Nazir Hussain only. This refusal was accepted by Molvi Nazir Hussain and MGA was informed that his challenge to Debate with Molvi Nazir Hussain, has been accepted and he must come to Chandni Mahal on 11th Oct. However MGA breached this agreement on the pretext of law and order situation and wrote a letter to defer this debate till Ghulam Qadir would inform Deputy Commissioner.

On 5th October, Molvi Nazir Hussain wrote to MGA to come to his house and talk to him directly to remove his apprehensions, still MGA refused and said there should be a European officer in the debate. After that 14 letters were sent to MGA for debate from Ulema of Dehli inviting MGA, but he refused them all.

One of them was Molvi Abdul Majeed who invited MGA and offered a reward money of Rs 1000/-in case MGA prove his claims.  Molvi Rahim Bakhsh invited MGA, Molvi Mujaddid Ali Khan too invited MGA for debate on 10th Oct at Masjid Fatehpuri , Molvi Abdul Hamid invited MGA to come to the roof top of his house and he would be at his roof top, there would be Bazar between two and no risk of life would be there, but MGA did not agree and dared not to come out of his heavily guarded house.

MGA failure to debate at Chandni Mahal brought great humiliations to him. So he thought of washing of this defamation. He brought another Ishtihar dated 17 Oct 1891 wherein he used abusive language against Molvi Nazir Hussain and challenged to declare him liar in his claims and in his arguments under oath in open before general public. Molvi Nazir Hussain went to Jamia Masjid Dehli with general public and sent message to Mirza sb that he is ready to give such statement under oath now come to us in Jamia Masjid and state your claims and arguments before us.

This message was given to MGA through Nawab Saeeduddin Khan of Loharo, Molvi Abdul Majid and Mir Basharat Hussain Kotwal City.  Nevertheless, MGA refused again.

After prayer Molvi Abdul Majid, Nawab Saeeduddin Khan and Syed Bashir Hussain Inspector Police went to MGA and asked him to give them in writing that he would repent if Molvi Nazir Hussain rejects his claims and arguments on oath. MGA got puzzled on this demand and remained silent. However, his deputy Mullahs stood up and said we would repent after one month subject to the condition that Molvi Nazir Hussain would not fall ill or suffer from fever and headache during this period.

Subsequently, few questions were asked from Mirza sb through the City Superintendent Sahab Bahdur, as under:

City Superintendent: why Do you not cut short your arguments and agree to give a written statement.

MGA and his team:- we want to talk on the life and death issue of Jesus Pbuh and nothing else.
Molvi Abdul Majid :-We want to settle this issue including all of your claims. Do you have a proof to your claim of Messiah ship.

MGA and his team : same answer.

City Superintendent:– Addressing to Mirza sb, Are you Messiah? If yes what is the proof? Suppose Jesus has died then why should you be considered a Messiah give us a proof?

MGA :-Remains silent.

Khwaja Muhammad Yusuf from MGA side: addressing to Molvi Sahib , Hazrat if someone wants to be muslim why do do you not allow him to be?

Molvi sb: Yes if he repents he is our brother!
Khwaja sb: I can bring his written repentance just now. He would write it down that whatever he wrote against Quraan and Hadis is rejected and he is a muslim.

MGA wrote repentance but in the same language as that of he published in his Ishtihar of 12 October.

Molvi sb. He should write that he seeks repentance from Allah for whatever anti Islam he wrote in Tozihula maram, Fathe Islam and Izala auham.

After few more meaningless exchanges between the parties, the City Superintendent Sahab Bahadur announces to end the proceeding and MGA and his deputy mullahs returned under police escort.

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“Nikama Nabi” or “The Useless Prophet” by Babu Ghulam Mustafa Sb son of Syed Muhammad Hussain Batalvi

Intro
A Pamphlet having shown 43 claims (titles) of Mirza qadyani and poetry by Ahle hadith ulema by the Title ‘nakama nabi” or “The Useless Prophet” (in english) Mirza Qadyani and his 43 titles claimed .(printed in 1937 by ) Babu Ghulam Mustafa Sb son of the famous Syed Muhammad Hussain Batalvi.

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Batalvi’s children were brought to Qadian by force

Intro
Syed Muhammad Hussain Batalvi was a great friend of MGA and then later became a major enemy.  However, after MGA died, Batalvi seemed to have buried the hatchet, he was allowed to write an article in the ROR in 1910.  Lahori-Ahmadis sources tell us that it was Dr. Mirza Yacub Bag who found 1 son of Batalvi and brought him to Qadian for free food and shelter (See Mujadid e Azim, online abridged version, see page 798).  We have conflicting stories however, the Qadiani’s tell us that Batalvi sent his children, whereas lahori-Ahmadi sources tell otherwise.

By 2010
Ahmadiyya leadership has kept in contact with some grandson’s of Batalvi and seem to have bribed them into accepting Ahmadiyya.  They claim to be the off spring of Shaikh Saeed Ahmad, who was a son of Batalvi.

The reference  

page 368 footnote

“Muhammad Husain had two wives and seven sons and three daughters. He himself says that they had all turned out to be thoroughly wicked and irreligious. They severed all connection with their father and some of them even conspired to kill him (Isha‘atus Sunnah, Vol. 22 No. 8, pp. 225, 226). In 1910 Muhammad Husain complained of his children’s wickedness to the Editor of Al-Hakam Qadian, who advised him to send the two younger ones to the Qadian school. He accepted this advice and sent them to Qadian.

When his friends came to know of it he had to write in defence in the Ahl-e- Hadith, Amritsar, dated 25-2-1910 that the boys were well looked after and that their religious beliefs were not being interfered with. But the enemies of MGA could not bear it, so they pressed Muhammad Husain to get his sons out of Qadian. At last he yielded and sent them to Rupar where they drifted into ways of profligacy. On December 1, 1912, the two boys were brought to the Anjuman Ahmadiyya, Lucknow, in a miserable state. There was a complaint and the matter came to the notice of the police and the court. The Ahmadis of Lucknow tried to wean them from their wicked way of life but with no success.

Muhammad Husain died a miserable death in the beginning of 1920 at Batala. (See Batalvi ka Anjam by Mir Qasim Ali, 1931) ” (Also see Dard).

Batalvi’s article in the ROR
49/480 of the pdf or see page 46 thru 78.

http://www.aaiil.org/text/articles/revi … sh1910.pdf

Batalvi’s children became Ahmadi’s and then left Ahmadiyya, per Ahmadiyya sources only
See Tadhkirah, 2009 online edition, pages 949-950

Note by Hadrat Maulana Jalal-ud-Din Shamsra: Hadrat Amirul- Mo’minin Khalifatul Masih IIaba says: I believe that one of the interpretations is the following. Two sons of Maulavi Muhammad
Husain Batalvi came to Qadian, studied in the seminary school, and took a pledge of my allegiance. Later, they showed some weakness, but it was a moral problem, not a problem of religious belief…. Thus the prophecy of the Promised Messiahas was fulfilled in my person and also fulfilled was the dream that I saw about the wrestling match which had informed me that ultimately Maulavi Muhammad Husain would join us.
[al-Fadl, vol. 32, no. 110, May 12, 1944 p. 2]

Scan from Mujadid e Azim

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Muhammad Hussain Batalvi gave Mirza Ghulam Ahmad a glowing review in 1884

Intro
Syed Muhammad Hussain Batalvi and MGA were close friends up to 1891, they were both the same age and had shared some of the same teachers, further, MGA’s father knew Batalvi‘s father and they frequented each others homes. In 1884, A fatwa of Kufr landed on MGA’s head from many Muslims in India, this was in response to MGA’s Braheen-e-Ahmadiyya Vol. 4 which was published in the early summer of 1884. MGA had went the Sir Syed-route and denied all of the miracles of Esa (As), however MGA was a a Ahle-Hadith (aka Wahabbi) affiliated person, in fact, his friend Noorudin was also Ahle-Hadith, as was his future wife, Nusrat Jehan and her father. Batalvi was the one who helped MGA arrange this marriage. In this review, Batalvi is telling the ulema that MGA is not claiming prophethood. Batalvi went at length to defend MGA, over and over again.

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Mirza Ghulam Ahmad vs. Batalvi–1891-1892 era, MGA sent 10 Lanats on Batalvi

Intro
After claiming to be the Messiah in 1891, Batalvi turned on MGA and his team of ghost writers.  Batalvi began his beef with MGA which lasted til MGA died.  MGA even made predictions that Batalvi would eventually join Ahmadiyya and etc, however, like all of MGA’s predictions, those also failed.

A summary of this situation, written by a friend

MIRZA’S FAILED PROPHESY AND 10 CURSES TO MOLANA MUHAMMAD HUSSAIN BATALVI

In his book Aina Kamalat e Islam at page 601-604, Mirza Ghulam Qadiyani writes that Molana Muhammad Hussain Batalvi always criticise me and says i am an uneducated man , incompetent in Arabic language knowledge. He also says that Molvi Nooruddin is only a Hakim and Molvi Ahsan Amrohi is only a munshi. (Clerk). So he Mirza challenged Batalvi to have a contest of writing tafsir of 80 verses from Quraan and writing poetry (Naat). Few months ago the date of which i don,t remember, I saw an article by Muhammad Hussain Batalvi wherein Batalvi calls me dajjal, liar and dishonest. Beside this he says I am ignorant of religious knowledge. He insulted me like this repeatedly.

Then I cried before Allah swt for help, after this prayer I received Ilham “UDOONI ASTAJIB LAKUM” meaning pray to Me I will accept . So i prayed for victory against Batalvi, my heart got cleared I understood that my prayers have been answered. The Ilham “ INNI MAHEENUN MAN ARAD AHANTIKA
(I will humiliate those who intend to humiliate you) seems to have materialised. For this contest i prayed before Allah to destroy the liar. I have prayed for the contest fixing a time period of 40 days.

Now if i lose and my prayers are not answered then non acceptance of my prayer will prove my ilham as lie. I may be treated as liar and shall be prepared to accept any punishment. If Batalvi loses the contest his ignorance and humiliation shall be revealed to the world. But if he runs away from the contest he would receive 10 curses from Allah swt. After writing this MGQ writes words “Laanat” 10 times in his book.

Ahmadi’s propagated this 40 days prayer of Mirza far and wide at that time. Every follower of Mirza was anxiously waiting for a heavenly calamity or accident to fall upon Molana Muhammad Hussain Batalvi days in and days out. As the time goes by without any such news many were of the opinion that Batalvi could fall prey to such a mishap at the eleventh hour.
Finally the 40 days time line passed but to the disappointment of qadiyanis nothing happened to Batalvi. Ahmadi’s felt very sad to know that neither Mirza,s Ilham proved true nor his prayers were answered .

After this Batalvi wrote in his Magazine IShaatussunnah :

“Dear readers it is 30th April 1892 today , three days have passed after the expiry of 40 days time line. I am flourishing and am better than Mirza in health, wealth and in children. May be Mirza would justify his failed prophesy by telling his Mureeds that It was meant a metaphoric AZAB would fall on me on qayamah or he could say look Batalvi felt great distress during fasting or see Batalvi ,s son has suffered from cold and cough and in this way my prophesy has fulfilled with extreme grace.””

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