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Intro
Ahmadi’s are always arguing that 72 sects of Muslims declared them as Non-Muslim in 1974, however, in reality, only a few sects were there. Authentic accounts only count 4 groups against the 2 Qadiani and Lahori groups and these were the Deobandi Hanifi Sunni, Barelvi Hanifi Sunni, 12er Shiite and Jama’at e Islami Sunni with Ahl e Hadith condemning Ahmadis outside the assembly.
_____________________________________________________________________________________________We challenge Qadianis to:

1) bring an authentic first person statement from a single scholar present in the 1974 assembly that acknowledged that there were 73 sects present in the assembly.

2) name the 73 sects present in the 1974 Pakistani assembly (authentic accounts only count 4 groups against the 2 Qadiani and Lahori groups and these were the Deobandi Hanifi Sunni, Barelvi Hanifi Sunni, 12er Shiite and Jama’at e Islami Sunni with Ahl e Hadith condemning Ahmadis outside the assembly).

3) prove that only the Qadiani sect was labeled non Muslim by the majority and not 2 sects of Qadiani and Lahori.

4) prove that if all Muslims accepted each other as Muslims and as one group except Qadianis, how were the Muslims not the main body/ al Jama’ah.

5) prove that Muslims were a sect if they all agreed that they were all one body of muslims.

6) prove that Qadianis were not a hellish sect that broke off from the main body of Muslims.

7) prove that MGA was wrong about 73 sects being complete in the 3rd century of Islam..

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Intro
Many years ago, Mirza Anas Ahmad gave an interview wherein he discussed the life of his father (the 3rd Khalifa, Mirza Nasir Ahmad). In this interview, he told the world that his father was getting ilham (information from God) for every single question that he was asked and thus, all of his answers were under divine guidance (obviously, this is a lie). Mirza Anas Ahmad also revealed how he was a member of the Khilafat committee in 1982 and even voted for Mirza Tahir Ahmad (4:10 timestamp). Dr. Syed Holy Spirit recently did a series on the entire 1974 NA hearings, check those out herein.

Continue reading “Mirza Nasir Ahmad told his son that he was getting ilham’s in 1974 when he was being questioned at the NA” →

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According to Abdul Mannan Omar, Malik Jaffar Khan was a member of the national assembly (MA) in 1974 when the Qadiani and Lahori-Ahmadi’s were declared as non-Muslim. He was from Attock city, and a cabinet member of Zulfikar Ali Bhutto.

He was also a Ex-Qadiani. He had his high school education in Qadian, and later left Qadiani Jamaat after witnessing the testimony of Mirza Nasir Ahmad, and even wrote a book against Qadiani beliefs etc. Malik Jaffar Khan was friend of Abdul Mannan Omar. Tehreek ahmadi book was written by jaffar before he left cult

First day Abdul Mannan Omar testified, after that on same day ZAB held meeting in evening. Meeting was attended by ZAB ministers, including Malik Jaffar Khan, and religious parties leaders, including Mufti Mahmud (father of Fazal-ul-Rehman). Late night after the meeting, Malik Jaffar Khan came to house of (marhoom) Shaikh Farooq Ahmad sahib in Rawalpindi. Abdul Mannan Omar sahib was also staying there.

Malik Jaffar Khan informed Abdul Mannan omar sahib that ZAB said: “I have listened to whole of testimony today, via audio link in my office. In my opinion we should spare Lahori Jamaat (LAM) and declare Qadianis as Kafir”. At this Mufti Mahmud said, “if we don’t declare Lahoris also Kafir, then Qadianis are bayiman (dishonest in their faith) and they will pretend as Lahoris and continue their activities. At this ZAB asked, “what is population of Lahoris?” Answer was given, “few thousands”. ZAB replied, “okay we can also declare them Kafir”. Malik Jaffar Khan also said, “it has been decided you will be declared Kafir, too. And there is no plan to call you (Abdul Mannan Omar) for testimony tomorrow (i.e. next day)”.

Abdul Mannan Omar, testified on 2nd day too. On 2nd day, as soon as speaker took his seat and opened the session, Abdul Mannan Omar sahib got up, and referred to adjourned issue from previous day. It was on subject of ‘Punishment of Apostasy in Islam’. Thus he was able to speak on 2nd day.

According to Abdul Mannan Omar, he testified first. Then after him Mirza Nasir Ahmad (Khalifa 3 of Qadiani Jamaat) testified for few days.

Bottom line: It was decided by ZAB and members of NA to declare Ahmadis (both Lahoris and Qadianis) Kafir even before LAM representative finished his testimony.

Continue reading “Malik Jaffar Khan was one of the #qadianis on the National Assembly of 1974, he then quit Ahmadiyya” →

Intro
Mirza Tahir Ahmad was a fanatical Mullah. He radicalized Qadiani-Ahmadi’s in the 1980’s and didn’t care if innocent Ahmadi’s died. In 1984, he asked Zia to pass Ord-XX and thus moved his headquarters to London. About 9 months later, on 1-25-1985 (during a friday sermon), Mirza Tahir Ahmad lied to Ahmadi’s and claimed that a member of the 1974 NA told him (the Khalifa) that they didn’t publish the proceedings of the Ahmadiyya issue since they feared that 50% of Pakistan would read it and then convert to Ahmadiyya (See at the 22 minute mark). Mirza Tahir Ahmad was lying, he even claimed that he asserted to that person, that forget 50%, 99% of the just minded people would convert to Ahmadiyya if they ever published the hearings data. Continue reading “Mirza Tahir Ahmad claimed that if the 1974 National Assembly hearings were ever published, 99% of Pakistan would convert to Ahmadiyya” →

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Muhammad Zafrullah Khan seems to have written a controversial book in 1972 (published in 1974) entitled “Agony of Pakistan”. This book is not on alislam.org. In this book, he urged the Government to guide its citizens in promoting Islamic way of life, observe Islamic moral standards and provide teachings of the Quran and Islamic studies for Muslims of Pakistan. Back in 1948 and 1949, Zafrullah Khan even supported the famous “objective resolution”.  Zafrullah’s defense of the objective resolution after a Hindu member Bhupendra Kumar Datta criticized it. Zafrullah Khan wasn’t the only Ahmadi to ask for this. The Musleh Maud (2nd Khalifa) said so repeatedly. MGA even asked for laws to punish blasphemers. Ahmadis-the moderate fundamentalists-pioneered the very Islamization of Pakistan they now decry.
Continue reading ““Agony of Pakistan” by Muhammad Zafrullah Khan (1974)” →

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Ahmadi’s are lying when they claim that they are being persecuted. The stats prove the opposite. Most Ahmadi’s don’t read and do research, they simply believe whatever it is that their mullahs tell them. In the first 50 years of Ahmadiyya, not a single Ahmadi was murdered for his faith in British-India. There were only 12 Ahmadi’s who were allegedly killed for being Ahmadi in the first 50 years of Ahmadiyya. 4 of these were Ahmadi’s who were doing tabligh in Afghanistan and officially employees of MGA and his sons. In fact, 11 of the 12 were killed in Afghanistan. 1 Ahmadi was killed in Iraq in 1925, however, we have never seen any details. Based on this data, we conclude that only 4 Ahmadi’s were killed for their faith in the first 50 years of Ahmadiyya. We also conclude that there was no persecution at all. Per Ahmadiyya sources 15 additional Ahmadi’s were killed for their faith from 1940 to August of 1947. Of these 15, 11 murders happened in Indonesia, the entire case is totally unknown, we have no idea what this could have been about. There is another single murder from Albania, which also seems dubious. That leaves 3 cases, of those 4, 2 of them happened to Hazrat Haji Meeran Buksh Sahib and his wife, the details of this incident are also totally unknown, we have no way of verifying why he was killed along with his wife in Ambala. The last one was from Swabi, in modern day Pakistan, again, there are no details at all. We can easily conclude that in British India, in the first 60 years of Ahmadiyya, barely a few Ahmadi’s were murdered for their faith, we count 4-5, and those were Ahmadi’s who were conducting tabligh and were killed by Muslims.
Continue reading “Ahmadiyya persecution rates from May 20th 1974 to April 10th, 1984” →

Intro
Ahmadi’s are lying when they claim that they are being persecuted. The stats prove the opposite. Most Ahmadi’s don’t read and do research, they simply believe whatever it is that their mullahs tell them. In the first 50 years of Ahmadiyya, not a single Ahmadi was murdered for his faith in British-India. There were only 12 Ahmadi’s who were allegedly killed for being Ahmadi in the first 50 years of Ahmadiyya. 4 of these were Ahmadi’s who were doing tabligh in Afghanistan and officially employees of MGA and his sons. In fact, 11 of the 12 were killed in Afghanistan. 1 Ahmadi was killed in Iraq in 1925, however, we have never seen any details. Based on this data, we conclude that only 4 Ahmadi’s were killed for their faith in the first 50 years of Ahmadiyya. We also conclude that there was no persecution at all. Per Ahmadiyya sources 15 additional Ahmadi’s were killed for their faith from 1940 to August of 1947. Of these 15, 11 murders happened in Indonesia, the entire case is totally unknown, we have no idea what this could have been about. There is another single murder from Albania, which also seems dubious. That leaves 3 cases, of those 4, 2 of them happened to Hazrat Haji Meeran Buksh Sahib and his wife, the details of this incident are also totally unknown, we have no way of verifying why he was killed along with his wife in Ambala. The last one was from Swabi, in modern day Pakistan, again, there are no details at all. We can easily conclude that in British India, in the first 60 years of Ahmadiyya, barely a few Ahmadi’s were murdered for their faith, we count 4-5, and those were Ahmadi’s who were conducting tabligh and were killed by Muslims.
Continue reading “Ahmadiyya persecution rates from 1954 to May 29th 1974—barely 5 Ahmadi’s were killed” →

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In 1974, the World Muslim League met at Mecca, Arabia and told the world that Ahmadiyya was not to be trusted, it declared Ahmadi’s as outside of Islam in April of 1974.  King Faisal was heavily involved, his murder as few years later was hailed by Ahmadi’s as a sign from their God.
Continue reading “1974 Declaration by World Muslim League (Rabita al-Alam al-Islami)” →

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The Mirza family planned the Rabwah Train attacks perfectly. Mirza Tahir Ahmad is totally missing from the scene. They did this as a first step to moving out of Pakistan. Mirza Nasir Ahmad claims that he was 12 miles away and didn’t even ask any Ahmadi about the attack.  Mirza Tahir Ahmad doesn’t have an alibi in terms of his whereabouts. His May 31st, 1974 Juma Khutbah can be found here.
Continue reading “Mirza Nasir Ahmad claims that he was not in Rabwah during the train attacks of May 29th, 1974” →