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Lecture In 1898 By Maulvi Abdul Karim Of Sialkot On Claims And Work Of Hazrat Mirza Ghulam Ahmad

In the year 1900, when the Urdu book Sīrat Masīḥ Mau‛ūd (Character and example of the Promised Messiah) by Maulvi Abdul Karim of Sialkot was published, after covering the topic of the title, the book included the text of a public lecture given by the author in 1898 on the subject: ‘What reform work has been carried out by Hazrat Mirza Ghulam Ahmad’.

This section of almost 70 pages is well worth reading. Therefore I have made it available:  lecture-maulvi-abdul-karim

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The wife of Maulvi Abdul Karim Sialkoti, Zainab Bibi

Ahmadiyya editors are always busy trying to hide all of the controversial data in terms of Ahmadiyya history.  In this edition of Ahmadiyya editors tampering with the texts, we are highlighting the wife of Maulvi Abdul Karim Sialkoti, her name was Zainab Bibi.  She isn’t talked about much in Ahmadiyya literature, most likely because she was very young (11–14) when she was betrothed to Maulvi Abdul Karim Sialkoti.  This wife seems to have been given to him after he joined with MGA and moved to Qadian.  We also have to assume that she lived with MGA and his family in there house, and seems to have slept with Maulvi Abdul Karim Sialkoti in his room, on the 3rd floor of MGA’s giant house.  Why do we assume these things about the wife of
Maulvi Abdul Karim Sialkoti?  The 2009 online edition of Tadhkirah (page 780) tells us as follows:

“””The Promised Messiah[as] said: The dream in which I had seen that there were two other graves next to the grave of Maulavi ‘Abdul-Karim has been fulfilled. One of them is the grave of Ilahi Bakhsh of Maler Kotla and the other is of the deceased Chaudhry Sahib.”””
[Badr, vol. 2, no. 23, June 7, 1906, p. 4]

Footnote by Jalal ud Din Shams—
That is, Chaudhry Allah Dad, Head Clerk, office of the Review of Religions, Qadian. The dream mentions three graves. The third grave is now there. It is of the wife of Hadrat Maulavi ‘Abdul-Karim, Zainab Bibi. [Jalal-ud-Din Shams]

Some Conclusions
This footnote by Jalal ud Din Shams is from the 1956 edition of Tadhkirah, as stated in the 2009 online edition itself.  Based on this, we have to assume that the wife of Maulvi Abdul Karim Sialkoti, Zainab Bibi, died in at least 1956, which covers 77 years after 1891, when Maulvi Abdul Karim Sialkoti moved into MGA’s house.  If Zainab Bibi was 13-14 in 1891, that makes her 90-91 in roughly 1945.

Who was Zainab Bibi?
Per Jalal ud Din Shams, Shadi Khan was the father of Zainab (see the 2009 online edition of Tadhkirah, page 754, footnote).

Who was Shadi Khan?
There are 2 Shadi’s Khan listed in Ahmadiyya history, one was a wood-worker from Sialkot and very poor.  He was also listed under the 313 companions of 1896.  There is another Malik Shadi Khan.

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The agonizing death of Maulvi Abdul Karim Sialkoti (1905)

We have written about his entire life here:

In this video
An Ahmadi scholar tells us how much Maulvi Abdul Karim Sialkoti suffered and then eventually died in MGA’s house. While on his death-bed, Maulvi Abdul Karim Sialkoti busted his head open and required an additional surgery. He left his widow behind, they didn’t seem to have any children.

The video

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“A Character Sketch of the Promised Messiah” by Hadhrat Maulvi Abdul Karim Sahib, (1924)

This seems to be a book written by Maulvi Abdul Karim Sialkoti and published by the 2nd Khalifa in 1924.  Maulvi Abdul Karim had been dead for 18 years, it is strange that this book was published.  He doesn’t seem to have had any children who were Ahmadi’s either, his wife is also missing from all the records.

The full PDF
A Charactor Sketch of The Promised Messiah

Some quotes
Hazrat Maulvi Abdul Karim (ra) of Sialkot who was a learned scholar and a brilliant orator, came to take the Oath of Allegiance in 1889 and soon left everything behind and came to live in Qadian, in the close company of the Promised Messiah (as) Hazrat Maulvi Abdul Karim (ra) on more than one occasion turned down offers of employment at handsome salaries as these would have taken him away from his beloved Master. He became one of the Promised Messiah’s most constant and devoted companions. When he came to Qadian, the Promised Messiah (as) gave him space in his own house on the third storey, while the Promised Messiah (as) himself occupied the second storey. It was this living arrangement that enabled Hadhrat Maulvi Abdul Karim (ra) to observe the Promised Messiah (as) from very close quarters and thus enabled him to present, so successfully, a portrait of the Promised Messiah (as) which detailed many aspects of his character and personality. In one such sketch, he writes that the Promised Messiah (as) possessed such humility and meekness that it is impossible to possess them in higher degree and he goes on to relate an incident to illustrate this point. ‘A few years ago in Ludhiana, I went to sleep on a couch in one of the newly built rooms in the house of the Hadhrat Mirza Sahib. As I fell asleep, he was pacing up and down in the room but when I awoke, I saw him lying on the floor near my couch. Seeing this, I hurriedly sat up. Thereupon he very kindly asked me why I had sat up. I said, ‘How can I go on sleeping on a couch when Your Holiness is lying on the floor?’ He smiled and said, ‘I was keeping watch over you. The children were making a noise and I was trying prevent them, lest they should disturb you in your sleep.’6

In the mosque the Promised Messiah (as) occupied no place of distinction and a newcomer could not tell him apart from others by any outer distinguishing marks. He always sat to one side of the mosque while Hadhrat Maulvi Abdul Karim Sahib, who led the prayers, occupied the central niche (Mihrab). It often happened that a newcomer, eager to meet the Promised Messiah (as) headed first towards Hadhrat Maulvi Abdul Karim (ra). Such mistakes were, however, quickly corrected either by the person himself or by other people pointing in the direction of the Promised Messiah (as).

Hadhrat Maulvi Abdul Karim (ra) further relates: ‘Every disciple of the Promised Messiah (as) thinks that he is particularly loved by him and speaks out his mind freely to him. A man may go on telling his story to him for hours; he continues to listen to him with full attention, no matter how tedious it may be. Often it so happens that other members of the company become completely tired of the story but no gesture of the Promised Messiah (as) betrays any feeling of annoyance and vexation.’7

The Promised Messiah’s feeling of respect for others and especially for his companions is well illustrated by the following observation of Hadhrat Maulvi Abdul Karim (ra) Sahib. He relates: ‘The Promised Messiah (as) always uses a respectful form of address when calling his followers by their name or when addressing them, he names them respectfully even when they are absent. I have often overheard when he is talking with his honoured wife that he always mentions a person’s name respectfully, just as he does when the latter is present. It is usual with him to use the form “My brother Hadhrat Maulvi Sahib” or “My brother and friend in God, Maulvi Sahib”. Similarly, in his conversation he always uses a form such as ‘Hadhrat Maulvi Sahib says so and so.’8

Hadhrat Maulvi Abdul Karim (ra) describes an incident which provides an illustration of this commitment to the needs of the poor. He relates that once a large number of country women came with their sickly children to ask the Promised Messiah (as) to prescribe medicines for them. Other women also joined in, containers in hand, wanting syrups and medicines for themselves or their children. The Promised Messiah (as) had that day to write an important and urgent article. I also happened to go there and found that he was standing there, active as a European at his post, ready to serve these people. Five or six boxes were lying open before him and he was dispensing different medicines to different patients. This dispensing lasted for about three hours. When he had finished, I said to him, ‘My Lord, this is a very troublesome business and in this way much time of your Holiness is wasted’. Whereupon he replied most cheerfully and calmly, saying: ‘This too is a sacred work. These are poor people and there is no dispensary here. I have provided some English and Unani (Greek) medicines which I give to these people when they need them. This is a highly meritorious work and a Muslim should not be neglectful or indifferent in this matter.’10

Hadhrat Maulvi Abdul Karim (ra) states: ‘I have seen the Promised Messiah (as) engaged in writing on difficult subjects and even composing Arabic works of unparalleled linguistic elegance in the midst of a great tumult and uproar. Reckless children and simple minded female servants are quarrelling all around him, screeching and screaming. But all this fails to disturb him in the least and he goes on writing as if he were sitting in a place of solitude. It is in such noisy rooms that all his great and unparalleled works in Arabic, Persian and Urdu have been written. I once asked him how he was able to think and write so calmly in the midst of such noise. He smiled and said I do not heed what is going on around me and, therefore, I am not disturbed’.13

Hadhrat Maulvi Abdul Karim (ra) further writes, ‘Similar is his attitude towards the female-servants in the house. A woman comes to him again and again and asks for what she wants. He never says to her, “0! Wretched woman, why do you trouble me again and again. Why don’t you take all that you want in one go?” He further adds, “The house-servants cook for themselves whatever food they like; they have as free a hand as if the house and everything in the house was their own property. If they ever forget to prepare food for the Promised Messiah (as), they are never admonished. He will not do even so much as say in a mild tone, “Why is it so?”14 The unlettered servants returned his kindness with love, affection and loyalty. Once in the hot summer season, after the sunset prayers the Promised Messiah (as) was taken very ill. People were attending to him all around. When Pira, one of his servants, heard of his sudden illness he came running to him, his feet covered in mud, and rushed straight up to him. Someone tried to stop him but the Promised Messiah (as) said, “Don’t stop him. What does he know about where not to tread with muddy feet? He has come with love–let him come.”‘15

The Promised Messiah’s dealings with his own family were a beautiful example of gentleness and kindness. Those who had the occasion to observe closely his relations with his family, bear witness to the fact that he possessed the most excellent morals in this regard. The female servants of the house were often heard to remark that he ‘accords the wishes of his wife,’ which was a practice not commonly observed in other households. The Promised Messiah (as) has himself commented that, ‘It appears to me to be highly disgraceful that we being men should quarrel with women…… We should treat women with kindness and gentleness.’ Hadhrat Maulvi Abdul Karim (ra) relates, concerning the noble wife of Hadhrat Mirza Ghulam Ahmad (as), ‘His respected wife has entered into his ba’iat (Oath of Allegiance) like other disciples and sincerely believes him to be a Messenger from God….. In every matter she believes him to be truthful and trustworthy, like the greatest of his disciples.’17

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Per MGA, Noorudin was worth a 1000 Maulvi Abdul Karim Sialkoti’s

MGA had a team working with him day and night.  When Maulvi Abdul Karim Sialkoti suddenly died in 1905, MGA got worried.  There is a story from this era wherein the wives of Maulvi Abdul Karim Sialkoti competed for MGA’s attention and love, they both contended that their husband was nearer and dearer to MGA.

The quotes
Hayat-e-Nur p.299

See Hadrhat Maulwi Noorudin by Zafrullah Khan, page 95-96

Some time after the death of Maulawi ‘Abdul Karim, Maulawi Nur-ud-Dinra happened to fall ill.
The Promised Messiahas visited him every day, and on one occasion busied himself with preparing some medicine for him. Hadrat Ummul Mu’minin ra sensing his anxiety and seeking to comfort him observed:

“””Maulawi Burhanuddin has passed away, Maulawi ‘Abdul Karim has died; may Allah, of His mercy, restore Maulawi Sahib speedily to health; whereupon the Promised Messiah affirmed: “This one is the equal of a thousand ‘Abdul Karims.”””

Wherein the wives ofd Nooruddin and Abdul Karim competed

On one occasion Maulawi ‘Abdul Karim’s wife and Maulawi Nur-ud-Din’s wife each contended that her husband was the favourite of the Promised Messiah. They invited his wife, Hadrat Ummul Mu’mininra, to pronounce on the question. She said there was no difficulty, the question could be settled in a trice. She approached the Promised Messiah and began: “Your dearest companion …” He interrupted her and enquired in an agitated tone: “Is anything the matter with Maulawi Nur-ud-Din?”

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The life and death of Maulvi Abdul Karim Sialkoti

Maulvi Abdul Karim Sialkoti was born in 1858 (see Dard, page 816, 2008 online edition, the original was published in 1948), he died on Oct. 11th, 1905 (see english ROR, November-1905 pages 446-447).  He was a follower of MGA from roughly 1889 to his death in 1905.  We don’t talk about people’s death normally, however, in the case of Ahmadiyya, we are forced to, since all Ahmadi’s wish a miserable death upon us.  Moreover, MGA wished a miserable death on all his critics.  Hence, we are forced to write about these types of situations.

MGA knew Maulvi Abdul Karim Sialkoti since the 1860’s
They never met in this era, however, MGA must have known some relatives of Maulvi Abdul Karim Sialkoti.  Maulvi Abdul Karim’s father was the Municipal Commissioner in the Sialkot Municipality, his name was Chaudhri Muhammad Sultan.  Its quite possible that MGA’s father knew Abdul Karim’s father and they helped MGA get this job.

Pre–1889, Maulvi Abdul Karim Sialkoti was influenced heavily by Sir Syed, before he met MGA

Maulvi Abdul Karim Sialkoti takes MGA’s bait in 1889, he is Ahmadi #43, Mirza Bashir Ahmad lies about this

1889–1890, Maulvi Abdul Karim Sialkoti was an employee of Nooruddin

1891, Maulvi Abdul Karim Sialkoti and his wife moves into MGA’s home

1891, Maulvi Abdul Karim Sialkoti, Amrohi and Noorudin become the imams of the mosques at Qadian

1891, Maulvi Abdul Karim Sialkoti’s young wife

1891–Dr. Basharat Ahmad (who eventually became a Lahori-Ahmadi) learned of Ahmadiyya through Maulvi Abdul Karim Sialkoti.

Maulvi Abdul Karim Sialkoti was also a ghost writer and editor and speech giver
He used to translate Mirza’s writings into Farsi and Arabic, and also read out his speeches and sermons. He has been variously described as one of the two ‘angels’ on whose shoulders the Messiah landed.

After taking bai’at, Maulvi Abdul Karim frequently visited Qadian to spend time in the company of the Promised Messiah and to benefit from his spiritual and learned discourses. He made it a point to accompany the Promised Messiah wherever he went for dissemination of Islam and the true teachings of the Qur’an. We find him present in Ludhiana in July 1891 during the debate between Maulvi Muhammad Hussain Batalvi and the Promised Messiah; similarly in October 1891 during the Promised Messiah’s speech in Jamia Masjid Dehli, and during the debates by the Promised Messiah with Maulvi Nazeer Hussain Dehlvi, and the written debate with Maulvi Muhammad Bashir Bhopali. He was one amongst those seventy persons who attended the first Jalsa Salana (Annual Gathering) which was held in Qadian from 27 to 29 December, 1891, and thereafter he accompanied the Promised Messiah on his visit to Lahore in January 1892 and his visit to Sialkot in February 1892.

1896, Maulvi Abdul Karim Sialkoti delivers the famous lecture, “Philosophy of the Teachings of Islam”, however, Nooruddin is one of the judges


1900, Maulvi Abdul Karim Sialkoti announces MGA’s prophethood and argues with Syed Muhammad Ahsan Amrohi

Maulvi Abdul Karim Sialkoti went totally blind by roughly 1902
Ahmadi biographers have written that Maulvi Abdul Karim Sialkoti was slowly going blind.  If you see his pictures from roughly 1900, he is wearing glasses, however, soon thereafter, all of his pictures show him to be wearing glasses, which are an indication that he had totally went blind by roughly 1902.

1903 era—Maulvi Abdul Karim Sialkoti’s wife?
Not much is written about the wife of Maulvi Abdul Karim Sialkoti, she makes one appearance in the literature of Ahmadiyya, this is in roughly the 1903 era.  She competes with the wife of Noorudin, in terms of who does MGA love more?  Noorudin or Maulvi Abdul Karim Sialkoti.  Further, where are his children?  He seems to either have had NO children or they disappeared.

1904, Maulvi Abdul Karim Sialkoti is the official Ahmadi speech giver, he gives speeches on behalf of MGA all over the Punjab

August–Oct 1905
While on his deathbed, and since he was totally blind, Maulvi Abdul Karim Sialkoti hit his head on a window and his head was split open.

1905, Maulvi Abdul Karim Sialkoti dies of plague, MGA refuses to visit him on his deathbed
He fell ill in August of 1905, and died on 11 October 1905, probably of the plague, as Mirza did not visit him on his deathbed despite his request. On December 27, 1905, his body was exhumed and re-buried in the Bahishti Maqbara with new funeral prayers.

Notice of his death appeared in the Review of Religions. Abdul Kaim’s death was apparently caused by a huge carbuncle that was on his back..which later turned into a disease of pleurodynia. People have wondered if pleurodynia had anything connection with the plague?

Pages 446–447 … sh1905.pdf

Muhammad Ali died when Maulvi Abdul Karim Sialkoti died

The Promised Messiah, who had spent those sleepless nights in prayers for his recovery for over two months and had procured every kind of medicine and food required by the doctors for his treatment and recovery, submitted to the will of God and became composed and asked Maulvi Muhammad Ali and Dr. Yaqub Beg, who were weeping, to stop crying. Inna illahi wa inna ilaih rajeoon. The next morning the Promised Messiah led Maulvi Abdul Karim’s funeral prayer and he was temporarily buried in general a graveyard of Qadian.
page 5

After Maulvi Abdul Karim died, MGA made disparaging remarks about him

“Suddenly on the 10 October 1905 Maulvi Abdul Karim suffered an attack of pleurisy and high fever. His body temperature rose to 106 degree. This condition continued for one and half days and finally he passed away on 11 October 1905.”



After the death of Maulvi Abdul Karim Sialkoti

Dr. Khan, the Ahmadi apostate, mentions the death of Maulvi Abdul Karim Sialkoti

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DR ABDUL HAKIM KHAN PATIALVI mentions the death of Maulvi Abdul Karim in his correspondence with MGA

I continue posting translations and summaries of the correspondence between MGA and Dr. ABDUL HAKIM KHAN PATIALVI.  Below is another translation to add to the list…

Zikrul Hakim page 40-42

Last night before going to bed, I called my God and made my humble prayers and said O my God you say in Quraan that i would forgive every thing except shirk whereas your Masih e Maoud (mirza) says Allah will not forgive disbelieving in me and will forgive everything else. Now should i deny your words or the words of your Masih?

I said to my God O my Sustainer you have always ignored my weaknesses and forgave my mistakes. U also know that what ever good deeds I do are only for your sake and to please U. U always answered my prayers, assisted me sympathised to me. U r not cruel, harsh and ungrateful like Mirza Ghulam Qadyani.

To the core of my heart i am ever ready to accept truth but it is self praising, self worshipping and harsh Mirza who did not reply to me. So what should I do. After this submission i saw a dream that Colonel Fateh Muhammad Khan came to me Abdul Ghani khan is also seen and asking for treatment of his father,s appendicitis. He showed me a prescription containing many anti gastric medicines and told me that these medicines did not work. Then I told Fateh Muhammad Khan that Mirza had removed me from his Jamaat. It has been good for me that i have been removed from Jamaat for the sake of truth. Then in the dream I say who is mirza in front of Allah and say very soon thunderbolt might fall from sky on this jamaat and kill them all.

On the basis of this dream I am writing to you again that Moosa a.s ordered murder of those who committed shirk whereas you support such peoples of your Jamaat. Now I present comparison of your revelations with Quraan.
* In Your ilham you say, may God give me authority over fire. Quraan says Allah has the authority on everything and the rule on the day of judgement.
* Your ilham says about yourself Ya Shamsu wa Ya Qamaru. (Sun and moon) But i say your light has not illuminated even Qadiyan and your family.
* Quraan says All praise to Allah, whereas your ilham says Allah praises you in the heavens.
* You say people in France Italy and Columbia killed by earthquake due to my disobedience. On the contrary, your worst enemies and opponents like Molvi Muhaammad Hussain, Sanaullah Amritsari, Owner of Paisa Akhbar and Peshawari Group have not been killed despite their worst opposition.

For God sake you test yourself and your jamaat on this standrad as to how much u and jamaat worship Allah and how much do u worship a man. I request you to return my first letter as i want to publish this correspondence so that good natured peoples could benefit from this. If u do not return it, i will publish it with the help of my memory because i dont have its copy.

Was the tragic death of Molvi Abdul Karim not a sufficient cause for u to avoid making mockery of others agonies? but regretfully the childish attitude prevalent on u all the time has made u much proud, ignorant and heartless. It was you who used to make mockery of the miracles of Hazrat Essa a.s, now with excessive ilham and prophesies u have made a joke of yourself . The taste of Quraanic knowledge is absolutely missing from u and Jamaat. U could not present a single academic miracle which was the need of the hour. U could have written a miraculous commentary of holy Quraan that could have decided the differences and could have reformed peoples and provide guidance to the masses.
Humble self
Abdul Hakim Khan
Assistant Surgeon
From Tarauri, District Karnal India.

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Maulvi Abdul Karim lived exclusively with MGA on the 3rd floor of MGA’s house

MGA knew Maulvi Abdul Karim since his days at Sialkot in the early 1860’s.  Further, he knew Nooruddin and Mufti Sadiq and worked for Nooruddin as an employee in Jammu.  Nonetheless, when he moved to Qadian in 1891, he lived on the 3rd floor with his wife in MGA’s house. Further, I am sure that his wife, as well as Noorudin’s wife and MGA’s wife all ate together and raised their kids together, hence, there seem to be 20 people living in MGA’s house by 1892.
Here are some names of the main ghost writing team, Maulvi Abdul Karim, Maulvi Mufti Muhammad Sadiq, Maulvi Sher Ali and Hakim Fazl Din of Bhera.  Some other people who came independently, yet still joined MGA’s team was Maulvi Muhammad Ahsan Amrohi, who was also a member of the Ahl-e-Hadith sect, in fact, uptil his job with MGA, he worked for the founder of the Ahl-e-Hadith sect, Syed Nazeer Husain from Delhi and Siddiq Hasan Khan of Bhopal.  Ahsan Amrohi was an imam under Siddiq Hassan Khan until he died in roughly 1890, he was immediately hired by MGA.  Maulvi Muhammad Ali was another, however, he came via Khwaja Kamaluddin and the prominent Ahmadi’s of Lahore.

The Quotes

“”””When in May 1899 Maulana Muhammad Ali arrived in Qadian, the Promised Messiah gave him accommodation on the third storey of his own house. The ground floor was for guests, while he and his family occupied the middle storey. This storey was adjacent to the Masjid-i-Mubarak and there was a hatch from one room into this mosque through which Hazrat Mirza sahib used to enter the mosque. On one side of the same floor lived Maulana Nur-ud-Din. It was above his room, on the third storey, that Hazrat Mirza sahib made space for Maulana Muhammad Ali.

He had a room and a small courtyard. There was a stairway in the room which went down to the Promised Messiah’s courtyard and the other door opened into the small courtyard. The door of the small courtyard opened on the roof of the Masjid-i-Mubarak. This roof was used in the summer for maghrib and isha prayers, and it was here also that Hazrat Mirza sahib used to sit for his evening gatherings. Next to his room was Maulana Abdul Karim’s room, and his courtyard was also adjacent to the roof of the Masjid-i-Mubarak. From the courtyard next to Maulana Muhammad Ali’s room there was a little stairway going down into a tiny room, and this place served as his office. It was in there that he produced those invaluable English writings for the magazine the Review of Religions,whose language was so perfect that it was alleged that the Promised Messiah must be keeping an Englishman to do the writing!””””  (See “A Mighty Striving” aka “Mujahid-e-Kabir”, written by Mr. Muhammad Ahmad and Mr. Mumtaz Ahmad Faruqui, english translation by Mrs. Akhtar Aziz and Dr. Zahid Aziz).  

MGA and his team planned every single move.  They all lived in the same house and hence knew each other closely.  They seem to have concocted the business of Ahmadiyya and launched it and thus made lots of money.

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Lecture Sialkot was delivered by Maulvi Abdul Karim, not MGA (1904)

MGA never gave any public speeches, he never gave a Khutbah-Juma, he never led any daily prayers, and he could barely speak properly.  Lecture Sialkot was not the name of this book or lecture, further, it seems to have been published in 1902 (see pages 367-372).  Ahmadiyya sources have recently written that this was published ahead of time…as early as 1902, however, that publication is totally missing from the records.  Further, recent Ahmadiyya sources tell us that Maulvi Abdul Karim read out this lecture on Nov 2nd, 1903, however, the ROR reports that it was Nov 2nd, 1904, and it claims that MGA gave the lecture, however, that is an obvious lie. This statement by the Review of Religions proves that Ahmadiyya writers, and in this case, Muhammad Ali, they all knew about MGA, they knew that MGA never gave any public speeches, however, they were always trying to make it look like MGA was a speaker….Mahmud Ahmad (1967) seems to confirm the data of the Review of Religions, further, the newest Ahmadiyya sources on this topic dont give any proper references.

Maulvi Abdul Karim read out the pre-written speech
Maulvi Abdul Karim was the “official-speaker” for MGA, he delivered all of the speeches that MGA was supposed to…..and most of the time…MGA was sitting in the same area, with his team in-tow.  MGA would then randomly stand up and utter a few unintelligible words.  Further, the British govt. had police all over MGA and making sure that he was never harmed….as MGA was out in the open and in danger of getting molested.  This is also another piece of evidence that proves that the British-govt supported MGA and wanted him to succeed.

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