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“”Prophethood among the Followers of Muhammad”” by Maulana Sayyid Muhammad Ahsan of Amroha, Oct-1913, in Tashhizul Azhan

Intro
The life of Maulana Sayyid Muhammad Ahsan of Amroha is an interesting case study.  He left Ahmadiyya in roughly 1915, and with his entire family, it is unclear who his wife was and his children.  He wrote an article in the Tashhizul Azhan of Oct-1913(as quoted by Mahmud Ahmad in 1924 and Muhammad Ali before him) in which he showed that the only prophethood which could be granted to Muslims was Nubuwwti Juzwi or partial prophethood.  This contradicts the view of the Qadiani jamaat about the prophethood of MGA.  In fact, Amrohi famously opposed the prophethood claim of MGA in 1901.

Some quotes
“Hence it follows that prophecies regarding future events granted in proof of the truth of Islam will be transmitted through the medium of Nubuwwat and that is what is meant by Nubuwwati Ghair Tashri‘i (Prophethood without Law) or Nubuwwati Juzwi Partial Prophethood). All the Ambiya’ who came after Mosesas, were honoured by the gift of this kind of Nubuwwat because the Nubuwwat of Ahkam (Lawbearing Prophethood) had ceased among the Israelites with the advent of the Torah” (Tashhidhul Adhhan October 1913, page 500) See also, “Truth About the Split” (1924), online edition, see page 127.

Links and Related Essays
https://ahmadiyyafactcheckblog.com/2017/07/13/life-sketch-of-maulvi-syed-muhammad-ahsan-amrohi-2/

http://www.aaiil.org/text/articles/hope/2007/hope200712_lifesketchsyedmuhammadahsanamrohi.pdf

https://ahmadiyyafactcheckblog.com/2018/10/04/maulvi-sher-ali-told-the-world-that-mirza-ghulam-ahmad-would-send-his-arabic-writings-to-noorudin-and-ahsan-amrohi-for-editing/

https://ahmadiyyafactcheckblog.com/2016/09/30/maulvi-abdul-kareem-claims-prophethood-per-mga-maulvi-amrohi-disagrees/

https://ahmadiyyafactcheckblog.com/2018/08/01/prophethood-among-the-followers-of-muhammad-by-maulana-sayyid-muhammad-ahsan-of-amroha-oct-1913-in-tashhizul-azhan/

https://ahmadiyyafactcheckblog.com/2017/07/16/ahmadiyya-leadership-published-books-by-maulana-sayyid-muhammad-ahsan-of-amroha-on-30th-may-1907-see-al-badr/

https://ahmadiyyafactcheckblog.com/2017/07/10/ahmadiyya-leadership-admitted-that-mga-used-lots-of-editors-and-ghost-writers/

https://ahmadiyyafactcheckblog.com/2017/06/27/maulvi-abdul-kareem-lived-exclusively-with-mga-on-the-3rd-floor-of-mgas-house/

https://ahmadiyyafactcheckblog.com/2017/06/27/muhammad-ali-lived-exclusively-within-mirza-ghulam-ahmads-house-for-almost-10-years-1899-1909/

https://ahmadiyyafactcheckblog.com/2017/06/16/dr-mir-muhammad-ismail-mgas-brother-in-law-lies-about-mga-leading-salaat/

https://ahmadiyyafactcheckblog.com/2017/05/20/an-ahmadi-claimed-prophethood-in-late-1901-or-early-1902-and-was-boycotted-by-ahmadis-chiragh-din-of-jammu-jamooni/

https://ahmadiyyafactcheckblog.wordpress.com/2016/10/16/the-causes-of-internal-dissensions-in-the-ahmadiyya-movement-by-kwaja-kamaluddin-1914/

https://ahmadiyyafactcheckblog.com/2018/08/01/prophethood-among-the-followers-of-muhammad-by-maulana-sayyid-muhammad-ahsan-of-amroha-oct-1913-in-tashhizul-azhan/

https://ahmadiyyafactcheckblog.com/2017/05/20/an-ahmadi-claimed-prophethood-in-late-1901-or-early-1902-and-was-boycotted-by-ahmadis-chiragh-din-of-jammu-jamooni/

https://ahmadiyyafactcheckblog.com/2016/09/30/maulvi-abdul-kareem-claims-prophethood-per-mga-maulvi-amrohi-disagrees/

https://ahmadiyyafactcheckblog.com/2019/01/13/what-is-arbain-a-book-by-mga-and-his-team-of-writers/

https://ahmadiyyafactcheckblog.com/2018/04/23/in-1891-when-mga-made-his-big-claims-he-denied-prophethood-mufti-sadiq-was-heavily-involved/

https://ahmadiyyafactcheckblog.com/2017/12/09/mirza-ghulam-ahmad-was-accused-of-claiming-prophethood-in-the-1879-1884-era/

https://ahmadiyyafactcheckblog.com/2017/12/09/mirza-ghulam-ahmad-was-considered-a-kafir-in-1884-before-his-wild-claims/

https://ahmadiyyafactcheckblog.com/2017/12/26/some-rare-books-from-the-1901-1902-era-which-refute-mgas-claim-to-prophethood/

https://ahmadiyyafactcheckblog.com/2016/09/30/maulvi-sanuallah-acknowledges-that-mga-claimed-prophethood-in-nov-1901/

https://ahmadiyyafactcheckblog.com/2017/10/12/mirza-sultan-ahmad-son-of-hazrat-mirza-ghulam-ahmad-on-finality-of-prophethood/

https://ahmadiyyafactcheckblog.com/2016/12/11/eik-ghalti-ka-izala-aka-correction-of-an-error-was-re-published-on-march-1-1914/

https://ahmadiyyafactcheckblog.com/2017/01/16/hani-tahir-explains-mirza-ghulam-ahmads-prophethood-and-pre-1901-vs-post-1901/

https://ahmadiyyafactcheckblog.com/2017/11/21/a-few-months-after-becoming-khalifa-mirza-mahmud-ahmad-waffled-on-his-fathers-prophethood/

https://ahmadiyyafactcheckblog.com/2016/06/27/do-ahmadis-believe-in-the-same-kalima-as-muslims/

https://ahmadiyyafactcheckblog.com/2016/09/30/mga-explains-how-he-misunderstood-his-prophethood-in-1880-and-realized-it-later-on/

https://ahmadiyyafactcheckblog.com/2017/02/23/noorudin-didnt-care-if-mirza-ghulam-ahmad-claimed-even-law-bearing-prophethood/

 

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Ahmadiyya leadership published books by Maulana Sayyid Muhammad Ahsan of Amroha on 30th May 1907–See Al-Badr

The al-badr newspaper of 30th may, 1907 tells us:

  1. A book by Maulana Sayyid Muhammad Ahsan of Amroha is reported as having been published in which he has related the martyrdom of Sahibzada Abdul Latif in terms of a story in Surah Yasin (Ch. 36) of the Quran. The name of the book is Sirr-ush-Shahadatain. [One wonders if this is available somewhere.]
  2. There is an announcement by a printer that Maulana Nur-ud-Din has given him his translation of the Quran to print and publish, and he has now published the first Part. [Such a translation never appears to have been heard of again.]
  3. Hazrat Mirza sahib’s book Haqiqat-ul-Wahy had just been published on 15th May.http://aaiil.org/urdu/books/others/muhammadahsanamrohi/sirrushshahada

    The book Sirr-ush-Shahadatain by Hazrat Maulana Sayyid Muhammad Ahsan of Amroha is now available on line at : http://www.aaiil.org/urdu/books/others/muhammadahsanamrohi/sirrushsha

    Links and Related Essays
    https://ahmadiyyafactcheckblog.com/2017/07/13/life-sketch-of-maulvi-syed-muhammad-ahsan-amrohi-2/

    http://www.aaiil.org/text/articles/hope/2007/hope200712_lifesketchsyedmuhammadahsanamrohi.pdf

    https://ahmadiyyafactcheckblog.com/2018/10/04/maulvi-sher-ali-told-the-world-that-mirza-ghulam-ahmad-would-send-his-arabic-writings-to-noorudin-and-ahsan-amrohi-for-editing/

    https://ahmadiyyafactcheckblog.com/2016/09/30/maulvi-abdul-kareem-claims-prophethood-per-mga-maulvi-amrohi-disagrees/

    https://ahmadiyyafactcheckblog.com/2018/08/01/prophethood-among-the-followers-of-muhammad-by-maulana-sayyid-muhammad-ahsan-of-amroha-oct-1913-in-tashhizul-azhan/

    https://ahmadiyyafactcheckblog.com/2017/07/16/ahmadiyya-leadership-published-books-by-maulana-sayyid-muhammad-ahsan-of-amroha-on-30th-may-1907-see-al-badr/

    https://ahmadiyyafactcheckblog.com/2017/07/10/ahmadiyya-leadership-admitted-that-mga-used-lots-of-editors-and-ghost-writers/

    https://ahmadiyyafactcheckblog.com/2017/06/27/maulvi-abdul-kareem-lived-exclusively-with-mga-on-the-3rd-floor-of-mgas-house/

    https://ahmadiyyafactcheckblog.com/2017/06/27/muhammad-ali-lived-exclusively-within-mirza-ghulam-ahmads-house-for-almost-10-years-1899-1909/

    https://ahmadiyyafactcheckblog.com/2017/06/16/dr-mir-muhammad-ismail-mgas-brother-in-law-lies-about-mga-leading-salaat/

    https://ahmadiyyafactcheckblog.com/2017/05/20/an-ahmadi-claimed-prophethood-in-late-1901-or-early-1902-and-was-boycotted-by-ahmadis-chiragh-din-of-jammu-jamooni/

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Hani Tahir on “Ijazul Masih” – “The miracles of the Messiah”

Intro
This is an Arabic-only book by MGA and his team of writers which was prompted via MGA’s challenge to Pir Mehar ‘Ali Shah.  In his challenge issued on July 20, 1900, MGA wanted to put at rest various insinuations against him about his lack of knowledge of the Arabic language.  The Muslims of the Punjab knew about MGA, they knew that MGA was using ghost writers and he could barely even speak in Arabic.  MGA’s team invited all so-called scholars and ulema’ specially Pir Mehar ‘Ali Shah to demonstrate their eloquence and fluency of Arabic by participating in a seven-hour live contest of writing a commentary in high flown Arabic on 40 verses on a surah selected through drawing a lot at a public meeting in Lahore where all should gather including MGA (see Hidden Treasures).  We have posted a few officially translated portions of this book here.  MGA never went to the public meeting and was thus humiliated, instead his team wrote this book on that occasion.

Hani Tahir’s commentary on this book
This is the second edition of the book, whose first edition was published eight months ago.

The book consists of four chapters:

The first chapter shows that there was no challenge from the Mirza’s side; it was just an escape from facing the payment of the dowry.

The second chapter speaks about the content of the Mirza’s book “Ijazil Masih”, and shows that the content is hollow and petty, and that no sane person can say what was mentioned in this book; for example: that the age of the world is seven thousand years, and that the Quranic chapter ‘Al-Fatihah’ includes mention about the Mirza’s advent.

The third chapter talks about the language of the Mirza in this book, where there are dozens of grammatical errors, and there are weak expressions and poor language, and there are 71 expressions that are stolen from Al Hariri and Al Hamdhani.

The fourth chapter shows the lies of the Mirza after the publication of this book, and it shows how he escaped from confronting Sanuallah when he came to Qadian to meet him after the publication of the book.

Links and Related Essays

https://ahmadiyyafactcheckblog.com/2017/07/10/ahmadiyya-leadership-admitted-that-mga-used-lots-of-editors-and-ghost-writers/

https://ahmadiyyafactcheckblog.com/2019/02/04/ijazul-masih-1901-some-quotes-the-miracles-of-the-messiah/

https://ahmadiyyafactcheckblog.com/2018/09/18/hazrat-pir-meher-ali-shahs-fight-against-mirza-ghulam-ahmad/

https://ahmadiyyafactcheckblog.com/2018/10/04/maulvi-sher-ali-told-the-world-that-mirza-ghulam-ahmad-would-send-his-arabic-writings-to-noorudin-and-ahsan-amrohi-for-editing/

https://ahmadiyyafactcheckblog.com/2018/09/18/mirza-ghulam-ahmad-and-muqamat-al-hariri/

https://ahmadiyyafactcheckblog.com/?s=Sana

https://ahmadiyyafactcheckblog.com/?s=Noorudin

https://ahmadiyyafactcheckblog.com/?s=Amrohi

https://ahmadiyyafactcheckblog.com/?s=arabic

https://ahmadiyyafactcheckblog.com/2017/02/06/hani-tahir-exposes-ahmadiyya-lies-again-the-arabic-of-mga/

https://ahmadiyyafactcheckblog.com/?s=ghost+writers

https://ahmadiyyafactcheckblog.com/?s=right+arm

https://ahmadiyyafactcheckblog.com/2016/09/06/lecture-ludhiana-was-not-a-lecture-it-was-a-riot/

https://ahmadiyyafactcheckblog.com/2016/10/12/the-story-of-how-mga-hurt-his-right-arm-and-was-disabled-since-his-youth/

https://ahmadiyyafactcheckblog.com/2017/07/16/mirza-ghulam-ahmad-needed-toilet-attendants-his-entire-life/

https://ahmadiyyafactcheckblog.com/2018/12/15/who-is-mirza-ghulam-murtaza-1791-1876/

https://ahmadiyyafactcheckblog.com/2017/01/13/mirza-sultan-ahmad-mgas-eldest-son/

https://ahmadiyyafactcheckblog.com/2016/09/06/mga-used-scribes/

https://ahmadiyyafactcheckblog.com/2017/07/10/ahmadiyya-leadership-admitted-that-mga-used-lots-of-editors-and-ghost-writers/

https://ahmadiyyafactcheckblog.com/?s=ghost+writers

https://ahmadiyyafactcheckblog.com/2018/05/04/ahmadiyya-mullahs-have-been-caught-editing-the-writings-of-mga-yet-again/

https://ahmadiyyafactcheckblog.com/2018/10/04/maulvi-sher-ali-told-the-world-that-mirza-ghulam-ahmad-would-send-his-arabic-writings-to-noorudin-and-ahsan-amrohi-for-editing/

https://ahmadiyyafactcheckblog.com/?s=Noorudin

https://ahmadiyyafactcheckblog.com/?s=Amrohi

https://ahmadiyyafactcheckblog.com/?s=arabic

https://ahmadiyyafactcheckblog.com/2017/02/06/hani-tahir-exposes-ahmadiyya-lies-again-the-arabic-of-mga/

https://ahmadiyyafactcheckblog.com/2016/09/06/was-noorudin-the-ghost-writer-of-mga/

https://ahmadiyyafactcheckblog.com/2016/09/30/mgas-ghost-writers-argue-on-the-prophethood-of-mga-in-1900/

https://ahmadiyyafactcheckblog.com/2018/09/18/mirza-ghulam-ahmad-and-muqamat-al-hariri/

https://ahmadiyyafactcheckblog.com/2017/01/02/mufti-muhammad-sadiq-was-a-student-of-noorudin-pre-1891/

https://ahmadiyyafactcheckblog.com/2017/07/13/life-sketch-of-maulvi-syed-muhammad-ahsan-amrohi-2/

http://www.aaiil.org/text/articles/hope/2007/hope200712_lifesketchsyedmuhammadahsanamrohi.pdf

https://ahmadiyyafactcheckblog.com/2018/10/04/maulvi-sher-ali-told-the-world-that-mirza-ghulam-ahmad-would-send-his-arabic-writings-to-noorudin-and-ahsan-amrohi-for-editing/

https://ahmadiyyafactcheckblog.com/2016/09/30/maulvi-abdul-kareem-claims-prophethood-per-mga-maulvi-amrohi-disagrees/

https://ahmadiyyafactcheckblog.com/2018/08/01/prophethood-among-the-followers-of-muhammad-by-maulana-sayyid-muhammad-ahsan-of-amroha-oct-1913-in-tashhizul-azhan/

https://ahmadiyyafactcheckblog.com/2017/07/16/ahmadiyya-leadership-published-books-by-maulana-sayyid-muhammad-ahsan-of-amroha-on-30th-may-1907-see-al-badr/

https://ahmadiyyafactcheckblog.com/2017/07/10/ahmadiyya-leadership-admitted-that-mga-used-lots-of-editors-and-ghost-writers/

https://ahmadiyyafactcheckblog.com/2017/06/27/maulvi-abdul-kareem-lived-exclusively-with-mga-on-the-3rd-floor-of-mgas-house/

https://ahmadiyyafactcheckblog.com/2017/06/27/muhammad-ali-lived-exclusively-within-mirza-ghulam-ahmads-house-for-almost-10-years-1899-1909/

https://ahmadiyyafactcheckblog.com/2017/06/16/dr-mir-muhammad-ismail-mgas-brother-in-law-lies-about-mga-leading-salaat/

https://ahmadiyyafactcheckblog.com/2017/05/20/an-ahmadi-claimed-prophethood-in-late-1901-or-early-1902-and-was-boycotted-by-ahmadis-chiragh-din-of-jammu-jamooni/

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“Haqiqat Un Nubuwwat” (1915) by Mirza Basheer-uddin Mahmud Ahmad, some quotes and data

Intro
After become the Khalifa in 1914, Mirza Basheer-uddin Mahmud Ahmad faced the difficulty of explaining he true beliefs of MGA.  One of the first few topics that he tackled was that of the nature of prophethood of MGA.  The Lahori-Ahmadi’s totally denied prophethood for MGA and only gave it a metaphorical color.  In January of 1915, the Khalifa wrote “Qaul al Fasl” and tried to explain the beliefs of MGA on 4 topics, the Khilafat, the nature of of MGA’s prophethood, Takfir for non-Ahmadi’s and the verse of the quran about Ismuhu Ahmad.  However, the Khalifa erred in this book and said that books before 1902 were abrogated in terms of MGA’s beliefs on prophethood, Muhammad Ali pointed this out immediately.  The Khalifa then wrote “Haqiqat un Nubuwwat”, “Reality of Prophethood”.

Some quotes
“”””The books in which he has denied being a prophet in clear words, and has called his prophethood as partial (juz’i) and imperfect, and as the prophethood of saints (muhaddas), are all without exception books from before the year 1901 … and in the books after 1901 there is not one book in which he has declared his prophethood as juz’i.”””” (Haqiqat-un-nubuwwat,on alislam.org in the Anwar-ul-Uloom series, v. 2, book 10, p. 443-444).
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“At last that event did take place. In the year 1900, Maulavi ‘Abdul Karim, the preacher ofthe Friday sermon, gave a sermon in which he, used the words Nabi (Prophet) and Rasul (Messenger) for the Mirza. This caused great irritation to Maulavi Sayyid Muhammad Ahsan Amrohawi. When Maulavi ‘Abdul Karim came to know of this, he gave another Friday sermon in which be addressed the Mirza, requesting him to contradict his belief, if he was wrong in considering him to be a prophetand Messenger of God. Afterthe Friday prayers were over, Maulavi ‘Abdul Karim caught hold of the skirt of the Mirza’s apparel and requested him to correct him in his beliefs if they were erroneous. The Mirza turned around and said that he, too, held thesame belief. Meanwhile, Maulavi Muhammad Ahsan had been greatly agitated by thesermon and in anger was pacing the floor of the mosque. On Maulavi ‘Abdul Karim’s return, he began to quarrel with him. When their voices rose very high, the Mirza came out of his house and recited theQur’anic verse: “O ye who believe! Don’t raise your Voice above the voice of the Prophet.”

(This event is based on the report of a speech of Sayyid Sarwar Shah Qadiani at an annual conference held in Qadian, and published in al- Fadhl, Vol. X, No. 51, dated january.4,1923)

(See also Haqiqat al- Nubuwat, p 124.[published in 1915])

Links and Related Essays
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Maulvi Sher Ali told the world that Mirza Ghulam Ahmad would send his Arabic writings to Noorudin and Ahsan Amrohi for editing

Intro
MGA hired many people to help him.  Noorudin was the most famous, as was Maulvi Syed Muhammad Ahsan Amrohi.

Summary, Seertul Mahdi Quotation number 104 Book By By Mirza basheer M.A .
Molvi sher Ali sahb says that Mirza Qadyani calls his arabic writings sort of revelation but Mirza use to get his Arabic revelation checked and corrected from First khalifa ( Hakeem Nooruddin) and Molvi Mohammad Ahsan and get them rectified. After Rectification they use to return it back.

Seertul Mahdi Quotation number 104 Book By By Mirza basheer M.A .

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Additional Links and related Essay’s
https://ahmadiyyafactcheckblog.com/?s=Noorudin

https://ahmadiyyafactcheckblog.com/?s=Amrohi

https://ahmadiyyafactcheckblog.com/?s=arabic

https://ahmadiyyafactcheckblog.com/2017/02/06/hani-tahir-exposes-ahmadiyya-lies-again-the-arabic-of-mga/

https://ahmadiyyafactcheckblog.com/?s=ghost+writers

https://ahmadiyyafactcheckblog.com/?s=right+arm

https://ahmadiyyafactcheckblog.com/2016/09/06/lecture-ludhiana-was-not-a-lecture-it-was-a-riot/

https://ahmadiyyafactcheckblog.com/2016/10/12/the-story-of-how-mga-hurt-his-right-arm-and-was-disabled-since-his-youth/

https://ahmadiyyafactcheckblog.com/2017/07/16/mirza-ghulam-ahmad-needed-toilet-attendants-his-entire-life/

https://ahmadiyyafactcheckblog.com/2018/12/15/who-is-mirza-ghulam-murtaza-1791-1876/

https://ahmadiyyafactcheckblog.com/2017/01/13/mirza-sultan-ahmad-mgas-eldest-son/

https://ahmadiyyafactcheckblog.com/2016/09/06/mga-used-scribes/

https://ahmadiyyafactcheckblog.com/2017/07/10/ahmadiyya-leadership-admitted-that-mga-used-lots-of-editors-and-ghost-writers/

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https://ahmadiyyafactcheckblog.com/2018/05/04/ahmadiyya-mullahs-have-been-caught-editing-the-writings-of-mga-yet-again/

https://ahmadiyyafactcheckblog.com/2018/10/04/maulvi-sher-ali-told-the-world-that-mirza-ghulam-ahmad-would-send-his-arabic-writings-to-noorudin-and-ahsan-amrohi-for-editing/

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https://ahmadiyyafactcheckblog.com/2017/02/06/hani-tahir-exposes-ahmadiyya-lies-again-the-arabic-of-mga/

https://ahmadiyyafactcheckblog.com/2016/09/06/was-noorudin-the-ghost-writer-of-mga/

https://ahmadiyyafactcheckblog.com/2016/09/30/mgas-ghost-writers-argue-on-the-prophethood-of-mga-in-1900/

https://ahmadiyyafactcheckblog.com/2018/09/18/mirza-ghulam-ahmad-and-muqamat-al-hariri/

https://ahmadiyyafactcheckblog.com/2017/01/02/mufti-muhammad-sadiq-was-a-student-of-noorudin-pre-1891/

https://ahmadiyyafactcheckblog.com/2017/07/13/life-sketch-of-maulvi-syed-muhammad-ahsan-amrohi-2/

http://www.aaiil.org/text/articles/hope/2007/hope200712_lifesketchsyedmuhammadahsanamrohi.pdf

https://ahmadiyyafactcheckblog.com/2018/10/04/maulvi-sher-ali-told-the-world-that-mirza-ghulam-ahmad-would-send-his-arabic-writings-to-noorudin-and-ahsan-amrohi-for-editing/

https://ahmadiyyafactcheckblog.com/2016/09/30/maulvi-abdul-kareem-claims-prophethood-per-mga-maulvi-amrohi-disagrees/

https://ahmadiyyafactcheckblog.com/2018/08/01/prophethood-among-the-followers-of-muhammad-by-maulana-sayyid-muhammad-ahsan-of-amroha-oct-1913-in-tashhizul-azhan/

https://ahmadiyyafactcheckblog.com/2017/07/16/ahmadiyya-leadership-published-books-by-maulana-sayyid-muhammad-ahsan-of-amroha-on-30th-may-1907-see-al-badr/

https://ahmadiyyafactcheckblog.com/2017/07/10/ahmadiyya-leadership-admitted-that-mga-used-lots-of-editors-and-ghost-writers/

https://ahmadiyyafactcheckblog.com/2017/06/27/maulvi-abdul-kareem-lived-exclusively-with-mga-on-the-3rd-floor-of-mgas-house/

https://ahmadiyyafactcheckblog.com/2017/06/27/muhammad-ali-lived-exclusively-within-mirza-ghulam-ahmads-house-for-almost-10-years-1899-1909/

https://ahmadiyyafactcheckblog.com/2017/06/16/dr-mir-muhammad-ismail-mgas-brother-in-law-lies-about-mga-leading-salaat/

https://ahmadiyyafactcheckblog.com/2017/05/20/an-ahmadi-claimed-prophethood-in-late-1901-or-early-1902-and-was-boycotted-by-ahmadis-chiragh-din-of-jammu-jamooni/

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Another claimant of prophethood within Ahmadiyya

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Intro
From time to time, a new claimant of prophethood emerges in the Ahmadiyya Jamaat.  The last one was Asad Shah, who was eventually murdered, however, he had basically left the Qadiani-branch of Ahmadiyyby claiming prophethood, nonetheless, the Khalifa pretended that he was still an Ahmadi, just to ensure that he could claim this as terrorism.  However, there are many others, Zahir-uddin Akmal claimed prophethood in the 1911 era.  This is precisely why Allah stopped prophethood with Muhammad (saw), Muhammad was the 124,000 and final prophet.  Muslims don’t need new prophets, since we have the quran.  We don’t need divine revelation either, or good dreams and etc.

Related Essay’s
https://ahmadiyyafactcheckblog.com/2017/05/20/an-ahmadi-claimed-prophethood-in-late-1901-or-early-1902-and-was-boycotted-by-ahmadis-chiragh-din-of-jammu-jamooni/

Meet Shah Mohammad Faisal
https://www.facebook.com/yazaulharb?fb_dtsg_ag=AdzuqynYTh_eoKzbPCiEvapr_14TnXfMOO_SBMvg3tJSJA%3AAdzVM2HQcfJ2PnFdXJvkVwycbOXq2a77XqW_7rCoSoNmeg—FB page

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https://ahmadiyyafactcheckblog.wordpress.com/2016/10/16/the-causes-of-internal-dissensions-in-the-ahmadiyya-movement-by-kwaja-kamaluddin-1914/

https://ahmadiyyafactcheckblog.com/2018/08/01/prophethood-among-the-followers-of-muhammad-by-maulana-sayyid-muhammad-ahsan-of-amroha-oct-1913-in-tashhizul-azhan/

https://ahmadiyyafactcheckblog.com/2017/05/20/an-ahmadi-claimed-prophethood-in-late-1901-or-early-1902-and-was-boycotted-by-ahmadis-chiragh-din-of-jammu-jamooni/

https://ahmadiyyafactcheckblog.com/2016/09/30/maulvi-abdul-kareem-claims-prophethood-per-mga-maulvi-amrohi-disagrees/

https://ahmadiyyafactcheckblog.com/2019/01/13/what-is-arbain-a-book-by-mga-and-his-team-of-writers/

https://ahmadiyyafactcheckblog.com/2018/04/23/in-1891-when-mga-made-his-big-claims-he-denied-prophethood-mufti-sadiq-was-heavily-involved/

https://ahmadiyyafactcheckblog.com/2017/12/09/mirza-ghulam-ahmad-was-accused-of-claiming-prophethood-in-the-1879-1884-era/

https://ahmadiyyafactcheckblog.com/2017/12/09/mirza-ghulam-ahmad-was-considered-a-kafir-in-1884-before-his-wild-claims/

https://ahmadiyyafactcheckblog.com/2017/12/26/some-rare-books-from-the-1901-1902-era-which-refute-mgas-claim-to-prophethood/

https://ahmadiyyafactcheckblog.com/2016/09/30/maulvi-sanuallah-acknowledges-that-mga-claimed-prophethood-in-nov-1901/

https://ahmadiyyafactcheckblog.com/2017/10/12/mirza-sultan-ahmad-son-of-hazrat-mirza-ghulam-ahmad-on-finality-of-prophethood/

https://ahmadiyyafactcheckblog.com/2016/12/11/eik-ghalti-ka-izala-aka-correction-of-an-error-was-re-published-on-march-1-1914/

https://ahmadiyyafactcheckblog.com/2017/01/16/hani-tahir-explains-mirza-ghulam-ahmads-prophethood-and-pre-1901-vs-post-1901/

https://ahmadiyyafactcheckblog.com/2017/11/21/a-few-months-after-becoming-khalifa-mirza-mahmud-ahmad-waffled-on-his-fathers-prophethood/

https://ahmadiyyafactcheckblog.com/2016/06/27/do-ahmadis-believe-in-the-same-kalima-as-muslims/

https://ahmadiyyafactcheckblog.com/2016/09/30/mga-explains-how-he-misunderstood-his-prophethood-in-1880-and-realized-it-later-on/

https://ahmadiyyafactcheckblog.com/2017/02/23/noorudin-didnt-care-if-mirza-ghulam-ahmad-claimed-even-law-bearing-prophethood/

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In 1891, when MGA made his big claims, he denied prophethood–Mufti Sadiq was heavily involved

Intro
MGA denied prophethood as early as 1884, some ulema of India had already issued a Fatwa of Kufr.  As we have recently learned, MGA was already claiming to be the Messiah in 1889, Ahmadiyya leadership has always suppressed this data, the Ahmadi-mullahs lie about almost everything in their pursuit of gainful employment.  We can come across some additional data about MGA’s denial of prophethood in 1891, it is posted in the below.  This is a longer story…MGA and his team denied prophethood until November of 1901, and even a bit earlier to the summer of 1900.  A reader would have to be very well versed in the dynamic of the split to fully understand the brevity of this data.  Finally, it should be noted that MGA and his team vehemently denied prophethood using the argument that the word prophet should be replaces in all of MGA’s books and revelations to muhaddas.

Summary

In 1891 Mirza Qadiani had to flee from Ludhiana to Amritsar after a complaint was lodged against him for creating Law and order situation.From Ludhiana he came to Amritsar. Peoples of this city were against him too.

Mirza was so petrified that he sent Mufti Sadiq to offer prayer in the Masjid of Ghaznavi Scholars, Where Mufti Sadiq managed to have a meeting of Mirza Qadiani with Ahle Hadis Scholar Molvi Ahmadullah.

Mufti Sadiq a, close disciple of Mirza Qadiani writes in his book ZIKR E HABIB (screen shot attached), that:-

“During meeting Molvi Ahmadullah said to Mirza Qadiani that some of your writings reveal that you are a claimant of prophethood that is why peoples have turned against you. Hazrat SAHIB (MGQ) explained the actual meaning of his claim (ie he do not at all means actual prophethood). Molvi Ahmadullah sahib said ok you give us in writing that wherever the word nabuwwat appears in your writings, it does not mean Nabuwwat it means MOHADDISIYAT AND IN NO WAY IT IS AGAINST THE FAITH OF KHATM E NABUWWAT. Hazrat sahib immediately wrote this on a piece of paper and handed it over to Molvi Ahmadullah Sahib which was kept by Molvi sahib for showing to ulema who were to excommunicate MGQ because of his claims.”

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Links and Related Essays
https://ahmadiyyafactcheckblog.wordpress.com/2016/10/16/the-causes-of-internal-dissensions-in-the-ahmadiyya-movement-by-kwaja-kamaluddin-1914/

https://ahmadiyyafactcheckblog.com/2018/08/01/prophethood-among-the-followers-of-muhammad-by-maulana-sayyid-muhammad-ahsan-of-amroha-oct-1913-in-tashhizul-azhan/

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https://ahmadiyyafactcheckblog.com/2019/01/13/what-is-arbain-a-book-by-mga-and-his-team-of-writers/

https://ahmadiyyafactcheckblog.com/2018/04/23/in-1891-when-mga-made-his-big-claims-he-denied-prophethood-mufti-sadiq-was-heavily-involved/

https://ahmadiyyafactcheckblog.com/2017/12/09/mirza-ghulam-ahmad-was-accused-of-claiming-prophethood-in-the-1879-1884-era/

https://ahmadiyyafactcheckblog.com/2017/12/09/mirza-ghulam-ahmad-was-considered-a-kafir-in-1884-before-his-wild-claims/

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https://ahmadiyyafactcheckblog.com/2016/09/30/maulvi-sanuallah-acknowledges-that-mga-claimed-prophethood-in-nov-1901/

https://ahmadiyyafactcheckblog.com/2017/10/12/mirza-sultan-ahmad-son-of-hazrat-mirza-ghulam-ahmad-on-finality-of-prophethood/

https://ahmadiyyafactcheckblog.com/2016/12/11/eik-ghalti-ka-izala-aka-correction-of-an-error-was-re-published-on-march-1-1914/

https://ahmadiyyafactcheckblog.com/2017/01/16/hani-tahir-explains-mirza-ghulam-ahmads-prophethood-and-pre-1901-vs-post-1901/

https://ahmadiyyafactcheckblog.com/2017/11/21/a-few-months-after-becoming-khalifa-mirza-mahmud-ahmad-waffled-on-his-fathers-prophethood/

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https://ahmadiyyafactcheckblog.com/2016/09/30/mga-explains-how-he-misunderstood-his-prophethood-in-1880-and-realized-it-later-on/

https://ahmadiyyafactcheckblog.com/2017/02/23/noorudin-didnt-care-if-mirza-ghulam-ahmad-claimed-even-law-bearing-prophethood/

https://ahmadiyyafactcheckblog.com/2018/03/19/mga-lost-the-debate-with-molvi-muhammad-bashir-bhopali-1891/

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A few months after becoming Khalifa, Mirza Mahmud Ahmad waffled on his father’s prophethood

Intro
The prophethood of MGA and the nature of the split in Ahmadiyya are some interesting reads, it was this exact topic which caused me to drift away from Ahmadiyya in 2005-2006.  I wanted to post a letter that was written by the 2nd Qadiani Khalifa from 1914, which seems to assert that MGA’s prophethood is being discussed and determined.

The quote

In a letter addresses to Muhammad Osman of Lucknow

HMBMA wrote:
“I want to tell you this about prophethood that all ahmadis regard the Pm as an honorary prophet(or the shadow of a prophet).  But, as people have degraded the Promised Messiah from his real position nowadays, hence it has become expedient to inform the community about his high rank.  Otherwise I myself do not like to use the word prophet so casually or commonly.  Not, because he was not a sort of prophet, but by the common use of this word people may not in course of time come to consider Mirza Ghulam Ahmad as a permanent full-fledged prophet.  So my use of the word is for a limited period and is remedial in nature.

A photostat of this was published in the Pagham-sulh 16 August 1914

Also see—Faruqi also showed this event in his book:
http://www.aaiil.org/text/books/others/mumtazahmadfaruqui/truthtriumphs/truthtriumphs.pdf
61/70

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https://ahmadiyyafactcheckblog.com/2017/11/21/a-few-months-after-becoming-khalifa-mirza-mahmud-ahmad-waffled-on-his-fathers-prophethood/

https://ahmadiyyafactcheckblog.com/2016/06/27/do-ahmadis-believe-in-the-same-kalima-as-muslims/

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https://ahmadiyyafactcheckblog.com/2017/02/23/noorudin-didnt-care-if-mirza-ghulam-ahmad-claimed-even-law-bearing-prophethood/

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Mirza Sultan Ahmad, Son Of Hazrat Mirza Ghulam Ahmad, On Finality Of Prophethood

Intro
Mirza Sultan Ahmad was the eldest son of MGA, he never accepted the prophethood or even the “imamate” of his father, however, nor did he ever reveal any of the family secrets.  I have written about him here: https://ahmadiyyafactcheckblog.com/?s=MIrza+Sultan+Ahmad

The Qadiani Khalifa did a fake conversion when Mirza Sultan Ahmad died
As we all know, the Qadiani jamaat engages in lots of fake news propaganda, in this case, they made it look like Mirza Sultan Ahmad did a bait at the hands of the Khalifa while on his death-bed.  Its a total lie.

Mirza Sultan Ahmad seemed to support the Lahori-Ahmadis in 1916

In Paigham Sulh, 23 January 1916, there is a lengthy, 3-page article entitled Milad Muhammad (saw) by Khan Bahadar Mirza Sultan Ahmad, who was the eldest son of Hazrat Mirza Ghulam Ahmad. On the first page, last column, I have marked more than a half of the column by a red line in the margin where he deals with the finality of prophethood. To quote from it:

“The second task of the Holy Prophet was Khatm-i nubuwwat. Before the Arabian Prophet, not even one prophet who came claimed khatm-i nubuwwat with the emphasis that our Hazrat (saw) did. The effect of that is that till this day no one in the entire world dared to be a claimant to prophethood after that Khatm-i nubuwwat. … Other religions did not enter into this at all, while within the Islamic world, in fulfilment of [the hadith] ‘The Ulama of my Umma are like the prophets of the Israelites’, such persons kept on arising who in their own sense possessed the glory of Israelite prophets. No less were the Islamic mujaddids in their blessings. Thousands of such venerable ones have there been in the Umma…

All the prophets gave good news of the coming of our Prophet, and our Prophet gave the good news of hundreds among his own followers who arose in Islam as abdal, aqtab, auliya [saints] and mujaddids. … Prophethood was ended and spiritual benefits were made general in another form.”

See here for the Urdu versionhttp://www.ahmadiyya.org/images_blog/ps-1916-jan-23-mirza-sultan.pdf

ps-1916-jan-23-mirza-sultan

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https://ahmadiyyafactcheckblog.com/2018/08/01/prophethood-among-the-followers-of-muhammad-by-maulana-sayyid-muhammad-ahsan-of-amroha-oct-1913-in-tashhizul-azhan/

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