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“”Prophethood among the Followers of Muhammad”” by Maulana Sayyid Muhammad Ahsan of Amroha, Oct-1913, in Tashhizul Azhan

Intro
The life of Maulana Sayyid Muhammad Ahsan of Amroha is an interesting case study.  He left Ahmadiyya in roughly 1915, and with his entire family, it is unclear who his wife was and his children.  He wrote an article in the Tashhizul Azhan of Oct-1913(as quoted by Mahmud Ahmad in 1924 and Muhammad Ali before him) in which he showed that the only prophethood which could be granted to Muslims was Nubuwwti Juzwi or partial prophethood.  This contradicts the view of the Qadiani jamaat about the prophethood of MGA.  In fact, Amrohi famously opposed the prophethood claim of MGA in 1901.

Some quotes
“Hence it follows that prophecies regarding future events granted in proof of the truth of Islam will be transmitted through the medium of Nubuwwat and that is what is meant by Nubuwwati Ghair Tashri‘i (Prophethood without Law) or Nubuwwati Juzwi Partial Prophethood). All the Ambiya’ who came after Mosesas, were honoured by the gift of this kind of Nubuwwat because the Nubuwwat of Ahkam (Lawbearing Prophethood) had ceased among the Israelites with the advent of the Torah” (Tashhidhul Adhhan October 1913, page 500) See also, “Truth About the Split” (1924), online edition, see page 127.

Links and Related Essays
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http://www.aaiil.org/text/articles/hope/2007/hope200712_lifesketchsyedmuhammadahsanamrohi.pdf

https://ahmadiyyafactcheckblog.com/2018/10/04/maulvi-sher-ali-told-the-world-that-mirza-ghulam-ahmad-would-send-his-arabic-writings-to-noorudin-and-ahsan-amrohi-for-editing/

https://ahmadiyyafactcheckblog.com/2016/09/30/maulvi-abdul-kareem-claims-prophethood-per-mga-maulvi-amrohi-disagrees/

https://ahmadiyyafactcheckblog.com/2018/08/01/prophethood-among-the-followers-of-muhammad-by-maulana-sayyid-muhammad-ahsan-of-amroha-oct-1913-in-tashhizul-azhan/

https://ahmadiyyafactcheckblog.com/2017/07/16/ahmadiyya-leadership-published-books-by-maulana-sayyid-muhammad-ahsan-of-amroha-on-30th-may-1907-see-al-badr/

https://ahmadiyyafactcheckblog.com/2017/07/10/ahmadiyya-leadership-admitted-that-mga-used-lots-of-editors-and-ghost-writers/

https://ahmadiyyafactcheckblog.com/2017/06/27/maulvi-abdul-kareem-lived-exclusively-with-mga-on-the-3rd-floor-of-mgas-house/

https://ahmadiyyafactcheckblog.com/2017/06/27/muhammad-ali-lived-exclusively-within-mirza-ghulam-ahmads-house-for-almost-10-years-1899-1909/

https://ahmadiyyafactcheckblog.com/2017/06/16/dr-mir-muhammad-ismail-mgas-brother-in-law-lies-about-mga-leading-salaat/

https://ahmadiyyafactcheckblog.com/2017/05/20/an-ahmadi-claimed-prophethood-in-late-1901-or-early-1902-and-was-boycotted-by-ahmadis-chiragh-din-of-jammu-jamooni/

https://ahmadiyyafactcheckblog.wordpress.com/2016/10/16/the-causes-of-internal-dissensions-in-the-ahmadiyya-movement-by-kwaja-kamaluddin-1914/

https://ahmadiyyafactcheckblog.com/2018/08/01/prophethood-among-the-followers-of-muhammad-by-maulana-sayyid-muhammad-ahsan-of-amroha-oct-1913-in-tashhizul-azhan/

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https://ahmadiyyafactcheckblog.com/2016/09/30/maulvi-abdul-kareem-claims-prophethood-per-mga-maulvi-amrohi-disagrees/

https://ahmadiyyafactcheckblog.com/2019/01/13/what-is-arbain-a-book-by-mga-and-his-team-of-writers/

https://ahmadiyyafactcheckblog.com/2018/04/23/in-1891-when-mga-made-his-big-claims-he-denied-prophethood-mufti-sadiq-was-heavily-involved/

https://ahmadiyyafactcheckblog.com/2017/12/09/mirza-ghulam-ahmad-was-accused-of-claiming-prophethood-in-the-1879-1884-era/

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https://ahmadiyyafactcheckblog.com/2017/12/26/some-rare-books-from-the-1901-1902-era-which-refute-mgas-claim-to-prophethood/

https://ahmadiyyafactcheckblog.com/2016/09/30/maulvi-sanuallah-acknowledges-that-mga-claimed-prophethood-in-nov-1901/

https://ahmadiyyafactcheckblog.com/2017/10/12/mirza-sultan-ahmad-son-of-hazrat-mirza-ghulam-ahmad-on-finality-of-prophethood/

https://ahmadiyyafactcheckblog.com/2016/12/11/eik-ghalti-ka-izala-aka-correction-of-an-error-was-re-published-on-march-1-1914/

https://ahmadiyyafactcheckblog.com/2017/01/16/hani-tahir-explains-mirza-ghulam-ahmads-prophethood-and-pre-1901-vs-post-1901/

https://ahmadiyyafactcheckblog.com/2017/11/21/a-few-months-after-becoming-khalifa-mirza-mahmud-ahmad-waffled-on-his-fathers-prophethood/

https://ahmadiyyafactcheckblog.com/2016/06/27/do-ahmadis-believe-in-the-same-kalima-as-muslims/

https://ahmadiyyafactcheckblog.com/2016/09/30/mga-explains-how-he-misunderstood-his-prophethood-in-1880-and-realized-it-later-on/

https://ahmadiyyafactcheckblog.com/2017/02/23/noorudin-didnt-care-if-mirza-ghulam-ahmad-claimed-even-law-bearing-prophethood/

 

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Ahmadiyya leadership published books by Maulana Sayyid Muhammad Ahsan of Amroha on 30th May 1907–See Al-Badr

The al-badr newspaper of 30th may, 1907 tells us:

  1. A book by Maulana Sayyid Muhammad Ahsan of Amroha is reported as having been published in which he has related the martyrdom of Sahibzada Abdul Latif in terms of a story in Surah Yasin (Ch. 36) of the Quran. The name of the book is Sirr-ush-Shahadatain. [One wonders if this is available somewhere.]
  2. There is an announcement by a printer that Maulana Nur-ud-Din has given him his translation of the Quran to print and publish, and he has now published the first Part. [Such a translation never appears to have been heard of again.]
  3. Hazrat Mirza sahib’s book Haqiqat-ul-Wahy had just been published on 15th May.http://aaiil.org/urdu/books/others/muhammadahsanamrohi/sirrushshahada

    The book Sirr-ush-Shahadatain by Hazrat Maulana Sayyid Muhammad Ahsan of Amroha is now available on line at : http://www.aaiil.org/urdu/books/others/muhammadahsanamrohi/sirrushsha

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    https://ahmadiyyafactcheckblog.com/2016/09/30/maulvi-abdul-kareem-claims-prophethood-per-mga-maulvi-amrohi-disagrees/

    https://ahmadiyyafactcheckblog.com/2018/08/01/prophethood-among-the-followers-of-muhammad-by-maulana-sayyid-muhammad-ahsan-of-amroha-oct-1913-in-tashhizul-azhan/

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    https://ahmadiyyafactcheckblog.com/2017/06/27/muhammad-ali-lived-exclusively-within-mirza-ghulam-ahmads-house-for-almost-10-years-1899-1909/

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Maulvi Sher Ali told the world that Mirza Ghulam Ahmad would send his Arabic writings to Noorudin and Ahsan Amrohi for editing

Intro
MGA hired many people to help him.  Noorudin was the most famous, as was Maulvi Syed Muhammad Ahsan Amrohi.

Summary, Seertul Mahdi Quotation number 104 Book By By Mirza basheer M.A .
Molvi sher Ali sahb says that Mirza Qadyani calls his arabic writings sort of revelation but Mirza use to get his Arabic revelation checked and corrected from First khalifa ( Hakeem Nooruddin) and Molvi Mohammad Ahsan and get them rectified. After Rectification they use to return it back.

Seertul Mahdi Quotation number 104 Book By By Mirza basheer M.A .

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https://ahmadiyyafactcheckblog.com/2018/09/18/mirza-ghulam-ahmad-and-muqamat-al-hariri/

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https://ahmadiyyafactcheckblog.com/2017/07/10/ahmadiyya-leadership-admitted-that-mga-used-lots-of-editors-and-ghost-writers/

https://ahmadiyyafactcheckblog.com/2017/06/27/maulvi-abdul-kareem-lived-exclusively-with-mga-on-the-3rd-floor-of-mgas-house/

https://ahmadiyyafactcheckblog.com/2017/06/27/muhammad-ali-lived-exclusively-within-mirza-ghulam-ahmads-house-for-almost-10-years-1899-1909/

https://ahmadiyyafactcheckblog.com/2017/06/16/dr-mir-muhammad-ismail-mgas-brother-in-law-lies-about-mga-leading-salaat/

https://ahmadiyyafactcheckblog.com/2017/05/20/an-ahmadi-claimed-prophethood-in-late-1901-or-early-1902-and-was-boycotted-by-ahmadis-chiragh-din-of-jammu-jamooni/

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Another claimant of prophethood within Ahmadiyya

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Intro
From time to time, a new claimant of prophethood emerges in the Ahmadiyya Jamaat.  The last one was Asad Shah, who was eventually murdered, however, he had basically left the Qadiani-branch of Ahmadiyyby claiming prophethood, nonetheless, the Khalifa pretended that he was still an Ahmadi, just to ensure that he could claim this as terrorism.  However, there are many others, Zahir-uddin Akmal claimed prophethood in the 1911 era.  This is precisely why Allah stopped prophethood with Muhammad (saw), Muhammad was the 124,000 and final prophet.  Muslims don’t need new prophets, since we have the quran.  We don’t need divine revelation either, or good dreams and etc.

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https://ahmadiyyafactcheckblog.com/2017/05/20/an-ahmadi-claimed-prophethood-in-late-1901-or-early-1902-and-was-boycotted-by-ahmadis-chiragh-din-of-jammu-jamooni/

Meet Shah Mohammad Faisal
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In 1891, when MGA made his big claims, he denied prophethood–Mufti Sadiq was heavily involved

Intro
MGA denied prophethood as early as 1884, some ulema of India had already issued a Fatwa of Kufr.  As we have recently learned, MGA was already claiming to be the Messiah in 1889, Ahmadiyya leadership has always suppressed this data, the Ahmadi-mullahs lie about almost everything in their pursuit of gainful employment.  We can come across some additional data about MGA’s denial of prophethood in 1891, it is posted in the below.  This is a longer story…MGA and his team denied prophethood until November of 1901, and even a bit earlier to the summer of 1900.  A reader would have to be very well versed in the dynamic of the split to fully understand the brevity of this data.  Finally, it should be noted that MGA and his team vehemently denied prophethood using the argument that the word prophet should be replaces in all of MGA’s books and revelations to muhaddas.

Summary

In 1891 Mirza Qadiani had to flee from Ludhiana to Amritsar after a complaint was lodged against him for creating Law and order situation.From Ludhiana he came to Amritsar. Peoples of this city were against him too.

Mirza was so petrified that he sent Mufti Sadiq to offer prayer in the Masjid of Ghaznavi Scholars, Where Mufti Sadiq managed to have a meeting of Mirza Qadiani with Ahle Hadis Scholar Molvi Ahmadullah.

Mufti Sadiq a, close disciple of Mirza Qadiani writes in his book ZIKR E HABIB (screen shot attached), that:-

“During meeting Molvi Ahmadullah said to Mirza Qadiani that some of your writings reveal that you are a claimant of prophethood that is why peoples have turned against you. Hazrat SAHIB (MGQ) explained the actual meaning of his claim (ie he do not at all means actual prophethood). Molvi Ahmadullah sahib said ok you give us in writing that wherever the word nabuwwat appears in your writings, it does not mean Nabuwwat it means MOHADDISIYAT AND IN NO WAY IT IS AGAINST THE FAITH OF KHATM E NABUWWAT. Hazrat sahib immediately wrote this on a piece of paper and handed it over to Molvi Ahmadullah Sahib which was kept by Molvi sahib for showing to ulema who were to excommunicate MGQ because of his claims.”

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https://ahmadiyyafactcheckblog.com/2017/12/09/mirza-ghulam-ahmad-was-accused-of-claiming-prophethood-in-the-1879-1884-era/

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https://ahmadiyyafactcheckblog.com/2017/01/16/hani-tahir-explains-mirza-ghulam-ahmads-prophethood-and-pre-1901-vs-post-1901/

https://ahmadiyyafactcheckblog.com/2017/11/21/a-few-months-after-becoming-khalifa-mirza-mahmud-ahmad-waffled-on-his-fathers-prophethood/

https://ahmadiyyafactcheckblog.com/2016/06/27/do-ahmadis-believe-in-the-same-kalima-as-muslims/

https://ahmadiyyafactcheckblog.com/2016/09/30/mga-explains-how-he-misunderstood-his-prophethood-in-1880-and-realized-it-later-on/

https://ahmadiyyafactcheckblog.com/2017/02/23/noorudin-didnt-care-if-mirza-ghulam-ahmad-claimed-even-law-bearing-prophethood/

https://ahmadiyyafactcheckblog.com/2018/03/19/mga-lost-the-debate-with-molvi-muhammad-bashir-bhopali-1891/

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A few months after becoming Khalifa, Mirza Mahmud Ahmad waffled on his father’s prophethood

Intro
The prophethood of MGA and the nature of the split in Ahmadiyya are some interesting reads, it was this exact topic which caused me to drift away from Ahmadiyya in 2005-2006.  I wanted to post a letter that was written by the 2nd Qadiani Khalifa from 1914, which seems to assert that MGA’s prophethood is being discussed and determined.

The quote

In a letter addresses to Muhammad Osman of Lucknow

HMBMA wrote:
“I want to tell you this about prophethood that all ahmadis regard the Pm as an honorary prophet(or the shadow of a prophet).  But, as people have degraded the Promised Messiah from his real position nowadays, hence it has become expedient to inform the community about his high rank.  Otherwise I myself do not like to use the word prophet so casually or commonly.  Not, because he was not a sort of prophet, but by the common use of this word people may not in course of time come to consider Mirza Ghulam Ahmad as a permanent full-fledged prophet.  So my use of the word is for a limited period and is remedial in nature.

A photostat of this was published in the Pagham-sulh 16 August 1914

Also see—Faruqi also showed this event in his book:
http://www.aaiil.org/text/books/others/mumtazahmadfaruqui/truthtriumphs/truthtriumphs.pdf
61/70

Links and Related Essays
https://ahmadiyyafactcheckblog.wordpress.com/2016/10/16/the-causes-of-internal-dissensions-in-the-ahmadiyya-movement-by-kwaja-kamaluddin-1914/

https://ahmadiyyafactcheckblog.com/2018/08/01/prophethood-among-the-followers-of-muhammad-by-maulana-sayyid-muhammad-ahsan-of-amroha-oct-1913-in-tashhizul-azhan/

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https://ahmadiyyafactcheckblog.com/2016/09/30/maulvi-abdul-kareem-claims-prophethood-per-mga-maulvi-amrohi-disagrees/

https://ahmadiyyafactcheckblog.com/2019/01/13/what-is-arbain-a-book-by-mga-and-his-team-of-writers/

https://ahmadiyyafactcheckblog.com/2018/04/23/in-1891-when-mga-made-his-big-claims-he-denied-prophethood-mufti-sadiq-was-heavily-involved/

https://ahmadiyyafactcheckblog.com/2017/12/09/mirza-ghulam-ahmad-was-accused-of-claiming-prophethood-in-the-1879-1884-era/

https://ahmadiyyafactcheckblog.com/2017/12/09/mirza-ghulam-ahmad-was-considered-a-kafir-in-1884-before-his-wild-claims/

https://ahmadiyyafactcheckblog.com/2017/12/26/some-rare-books-from-the-1901-1902-era-which-refute-mgas-claim-to-prophethood/

https://ahmadiyyafactcheckblog.com/2016/09/30/maulvi-sanuallah-acknowledges-that-mga-claimed-prophethood-in-nov-1901/

https://ahmadiyyafactcheckblog.com/2017/10/12/mirza-sultan-ahmad-son-of-hazrat-mirza-ghulam-ahmad-on-finality-of-prophethood/

https://ahmadiyyafactcheckblog.com/2016/12/11/eik-ghalti-ka-izala-aka-correction-of-an-error-was-re-published-on-march-1-1914/

https://ahmadiyyafactcheckblog.com/2017/01/16/hani-tahir-explains-mirza-ghulam-ahmads-prophethood-and-pre-1901-vs-post-1901/

https://ahmadiyyafactcheckblog.com/2017/11/21/a-few-months-after-becoming-khalifa-mirza-mahmud-ahmad-waffled-on-his-fathers-prophethood/

https://ahmadiyyafactcheckblog.com/2016/06/27/do-ahmadis-believe-in-the-same-kalima-as-muslims/

https://ahmadiyyafactcheckblog.com/2016/09/30/mga-explains-how-he-misunderstood-his-prophethood-in-1880-and-realized-it-later-on/

https://ahmadiyyafactcheckblog.com/2017/02/23/noorudin-didnt-care-if-mirza-ghulam-ahmad-claimed-even-law-bearing-prophethood/

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Mirza Sultan Ahmad, Son Of Hazrat Mirza Ghulam Ahmad, On Finality Of Prophethood

Intro
Mirza Sultan Ahmad was the eldest son of MGA, he never accepted the prophethood or even the “imamate” of his father, however, nor did he ever reveal any of the family secrets.  I have written about him here: https://ahmadiyyafactcheckblog.com/?s=MIrza+Sultan+Ahmad

The Qadiani Khalifa did a fake conversion when Mirza Sultan Ahmad died
As we all know, the Qadiani jamaat engages in lots of fake news propaganda, in this case, they made it look like Mirza Sultan Ahmad did a bait at the hands of the Khalifa while on his death-bed.  Its a total lie.

Mirza Sultan Ahmad seemed to support the Lahori-Ahmadis in 1916

In Paigham Sulh, 23 January 1916, there is a lengthy, 3-page article entitled Milad Muhammad (saw) by Khan Bahadar Mirza Sultan Ahmad, who was the eldest son of Hazrat Mirza Ghulam Ahmad. On the first page, last column, I have marked more than a half of the column by a red line in the margin where he deals with the finality of prophethood. To quote from it:

“The second task of the Holy Prophet was Khatm-i nubuwwat. Before the Arabian Prophet, not even one prophet who came claimed khatm-i nubuwwat with the emphasis that our Hazrat (saw) did. The effect of that is that till this day no one in the entire world dared to be a claimant to prophethood after that Khatm-i nubuwwat. … Other religions did not enter into this at all, while within the Islamic world, in fulfilment of [the hadith] ‘The Ulama of my Umma are like the prophets of the Israelites’, such persons kept on arising who in their own sense possessed the glory of Israelite prophets. No less were the Islamic mujaddids in their blessings. Thousands of such venerable ones have there been in the Umma…

All the prophets gave good news of the coming of our Prophet, and our Prophet gave the good news of hundreds among his own followers who arose in Islam as abdal, aqtab, auliya [saints] and mujaddids. … Prophethood was ended and spiritual benefits were made general in another form.”

See here for the Urdu versionhttp://www.ahmadiyya.org/images_blog/ps-1916-jan-23-mirza-sultan.pdf

ps-1916-jan-23-mirza-sultan

Links and Related Essays
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https://ahmadiyyafactcheckblog.com/2019/01/13/what-is-arbain-a-book-by-mga-and-his-team-of-writers/

https://ahmadiyyafactcheckblog.com/2018/04/23/in-1891-when-mga-made-his-big-claims-he-denied-prophethood-mufti-sadiq-was-heavily-involved/

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Al- Qaulul Fasl by the Khalifa, Mirza Basheer-uddin Mahmud Ahmad–early-1915

Intro
This was the first book written by Mirza Basheeruddin Mahmud Ahmad and company that was vs. the Lahori-Ahmadi’s.  This was in response to Khwaja Kamal-uddin’s speech in Lahore, which happened in Dec of 1914.

Some quotes

“””If one were to define Haqiqi Nabi (real Prophet) as a Prophet who is not an impostor or pretender but a Prophet who has really been sent by God, who bears the title of Nabi in the sense of an accredited messenger of God, agreeably to the sense in which the word is used in the Holy Quran and possesses all the attributes requisite in a Nabi in their proper measure, then in view of such a definition, I would say that the Promised Messiahas was a Haqiqi Nabi, but, of course, I would not give him that name if it is understood to mean that he brought a new Law.” (Al-Qaulul Fasl, page 12).(As quoted in “Truth about the Split”, online edition, pages 196-197, https://www.alislam.org/library/books/Truth-about-the-Split.pdf).  

“According to us what is meant by the Promised Messiahas being a Zilli or a Baruzi
Nabi, is simply this that his Nubuwwat (prophethood) was attained by virtue of his
pupillage and obedience to the Holy Prophet Muhammadsa, whereas the previous
Prophets attained this rank directly, and the words do not imply that the Nubuwwat
(prophethood) of the Promised Messiahas was something of the nature of an honorary
title which had no real substance behind it, or that his Nubuwwat did not entitle him to
the status and privileges of Prophets.” (Al- Qaulul Fasl. p. 18)(As quoted in “Truth about the Split”, online edition, pages 196-197, https://www.alislam.org/library/books/Truth-about-the-Split.pdf).

“””The Promised Messiahas has called himself Ahmad, and said that it was he who was the real object of the prophecy, because he said that in this passage (the verse Ismuhu Ahmad in
Chapter Al-Saff of the Holy Quran), there is a prophecy concerning Ahmad, alone, whereas the Holy Prophet was both Ahmad and Muhammad.” (Al- Qaulul Fasl, page 27).(As quoted in “Truth about the Split”, online edition, page 198, https://www.alislam.org/library/books/Truth-about-the-Split.pdf).

“In short, the reference quoted above proves that until the publication of Tiryaq-ul-Qulub, [the writing of] which began in August 1899 and ended on 25 October 1902, his belief was that he has partial excellence over Jesus and that his being called prophet means a kind of partial pro­phethood and deficient prophethood. But afterwards … he learnt from God that he excels the Messiah in all qualities and is not the recipient of any partial prophet­hood, but is a prophet. … Thus it is absolutely unallow­able to use any writing before 1902 as evidence because the Promised Messiah has given the decision that, as regards his belief about prophet­hood which he expressed in Tiryaq-ul-Qulub, later revela­tion made him change it.” (Al-Qaul-ul-Fasl, p. 24. This book is on their website http://www.alislam.org in the collection Anwar-ul-‘ulum, v. 2, book no. 8. See page 285.)

 

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The Queen of the Princely state of Bhopal invested heavily (1878) into Mirza Ghulam Ahmad and his Braheen–they were disappointed by the product


Intro

Ahmadiyya leadership has the terrible habit of covering up the misgivings of MGA.  They try to present MGA as someone who was loved by all Muslims in India until 1891, however, that is not true at all, Muslims in India were fed up by MGA by 1885.  In fact, it was only Muhammad Hussain Batalvi who continued to support MGA.  In this specific case, I will present some evidence which shows that Sultan Shah Jahan, Begum of Bhopal, who’s picture is given in the above, was the major contributor in terms of the publishing of the first 4 volumes of the Braheen-e-Ahmadiyya. She seems to have never directly commented on MGA, however, her husband thought that the Braheen-e-Ahmadiyya was offensive and worthless, and thus tore it up and sent to back to Qadian in that condition, which enraged MGA.

By late 1884, MGA was considered a Kafir by most Ahl-e-hadith
https://ahmadiyyafactcheckblog.com/2017/12/09/mirza-ghulam-ahmad-was-considered-a-kafir-in-1884-before-his-wild-claims/

Nawab Siddiq Hasan Khan died on May 26, 1890
https://ahmadiyyafactcheckblog.com/2017/07/16/maulvi-muhammad-ahsan-amrohi-lived-exclusively-in-mgas-house/

Nawab Siddiq Hasan Khan was a founder of the Ahl-e-Hadith sect
MGA had his nikkah read by the other co-founder of the Ahl-e-Hadith (Nazir Hussain) aka Wahabbi’s of India.  Noorudin was also connected with this group.

Maulvi Muhammad Ahsan Amrohi moves to Qadian
Maulvi Muhammad Ahsan Amrohi had just lost his job in Bhopal, since Khan had died, MGA immediately hired him.  Ahsan Amrohi moved to Qadian and began working immediately.

MGA claims that the downfall of Nawab Siddiq Hasan Khan is God’s wrath
MGA wrote later on, after the fact, as far as 1907, that this was divine intervention working.

She also donated to the building of the first mosque in the Uk, –the Woking mosque
Shahjahan Begum made sizeable donations towards the building of a mosque at Woking, Surrey in the UK. She also contributed generously towards the founding of the Muhammadan Anglo-Oriental College at Aligarh, which developed into the Aligarh Muslim University. She also subsidised the cost of a railway to be constructed between Hoshangabad and Bhopal.

Ahmadi’s took over the Woking in 1913
Khwaja Kamaluddin took over control of this small mosque in 1913.  After the split of 1914, it fell into the Lahori-Ahmadi’s hands.  The Lahori-Ahmadi’s managed it until the mid 1960’s, when Bashir Ahmad Misri (Who was the imam of that mosque) helped to get it out of their hands, which he succeeded in doing.

Upal’s comments on this topic
See Upal (2017), page 125

“””The reaction to Braheen was not uniform even among the Ahl-e-Hadith. Nawab Sidiq
Hasan Khan, for instance, angrily returned copies of Ahmad’s books sent to him with a
note saying that he was afraid that such controversial works will draw the anger of the
British authorities. Responding to Khan in an ishtihar (i.e., poster), Ahmad exhibited
a much more sophisticated and nuanced understanding of the relationship between
the British government and Christian missionaries in India than was common among
Muslim leaders of the time.”””

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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Siddiq_Hasan_Khan

https://ahmadiyyafactcheckblog.com/?s=Upal

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https://ahmadiyyafactcheckblog.com/2018/07/15/mga-forced-noorudin-to-pretend-to-be-hanafi-even-thought-he-was-a-wahabbi-aka-ahl-e-hadith/

https://ahmadiyyafactcheckblog.com/2017/12/07/maulvi-nooruddin-was-an-ahle-a-hadith-aka-wahhabi-type-of-muslim/

Seema Alavi, Siddiq Hasan Khan (1832–90) and the Creation of a Muslim Cosmopolitanism in the 19th centuryJournal of the Economic and Social History of the Orient, vol. 54, #1, pg. 4. Leiden: Brill Publishers, 2011.

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https://ahmadiyyafactcheckblog.com/2017/07/13/life-sketch-of-maulvi-syed-muhammad-ahsan-amrohi-2/

http://www.aaiil.org/text/articles/hope/2007/hope200712_lifesketchsyedmuhammadahsanamrohi.pdf

https://ahmadiyyafactcheckblog.com/2018/10/04/maulvi-sher-ali-told-the-world-that-mirza-ghulam-ahmad-would-send-his-arabic-writings-to-noorudin-and-ahsan-amrohi-for-editing/

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https://ahmadiyyafactcheckblog.com/2017/07/10/ahmadiyya-leadership-admitted-that-mga-used-lots-of-editors-and-ghost-writers/

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https://ahmadiyyafactcheckblog.com/2017/06/27/muhammad-ali-lived-exclusively-within-mirza-ghulam-ahmads-house-for-almost-10-years-1899-1909/

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