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Who is Abdullah Athim (1828–1896)? The Ex-Muslim turned Christian who beat Mirza Ghulam Ahmad in 1893 via a written debate

Abdullah Khan Athim was an Ex-Muslim turned Christian who lived in British-India during the colonial era. Mr Abdullah Athim (also Abaidyah) was born in Ambala about the year 1828. Baptised on March 28th, 1853, in Karachi and on this occasion took the name of ‘Athim’ or the ‘sinner’. Appointed Tahsildar and served in Ajnala, Taran Taran and Batala. Served as E.A.C. in Sialkot, Ambala and Karnal (See Dard). MGA began beefing with Christian missionaries in roughly 1885-1886, this was where he came into contact with Rev. Imam-ud-Din, Rev. Thakar Das and Rev. Abdullah Athim. At age 65 (MGA was 53)(the year was 1893), Abdullah Athim agreed to have a written debate with MGA and MGA’s team of writers.

Dr. Clark wrote about this written debate here. He offers the other side of the story, he notes that MGA didn’t predict any death in 15 months, MGA had asked for a Mubahila, however, a Mubahila had never happened in Islam and thus, the Christians refused. MGA seems to have had another Mubahila as soon as he left the house of Dr. Clark (see the Punjab Mission News).

The biggest issue here is that this is mostly a one-sided story, Ahmadi’s are telling the story and thus, it is biased and dubious. Nevertheless, we have went through the facts and explained the story from a neutral perspective.

It seems to us that the only reason that MGA allegedly blurted out that Athim would die in 15 months was because Athim and his team had brought into the debate 3 persons who were deaf, dumb and blind. They asked MGA to heal them, MGA blew a gasket, he was upset. This is when MGA yelled out that Athim would die.

On July 27th, 1896, Athim died of natural causes at Ferozepur where he was buried (See dard).
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The Muhammadi Begum prophecy was supposed to be a sign for all Muslims about MGA’s truth

As we all know, MGA lusted after his triple niece (muhammadi begum) before and after she was married with children. It should also be noted that in 1892, MGA was claiming that this prophecy was for Muslims, as the Lekh Ram prophecy was for Hindus and the Abdullah Athim for Christians. MGA was asserting that this was how they would all convert to Ahmadiyya. However, all 3 of these prophecies failed and the masses never accepted Ahmadiyya, in fact, in 2021, in India, barely 0.00001% of the country is Qadiani-Ahmadi. Continue reading “The Muhammadi Begum prophecy was supposed to be a sign for all Muslims about MGA’s truth”

In 1899, Mirza Ghulam Ahmad said that he cursed the Christian missionaries just to protect them

As we all know, after MGA’s written debate with Athim, wherein he lost on purpose in an attempt to discredit Islam. We have a found a new reference from Tiryaq ul Qulub wherein MGA clearly tells the world that he only cursed at the Christian missionaries to protect them. This quote says that in Nur-e-Afshan which is written from Ludhiana has Christians writing that the prophet Muhammad SAW was a thief, fornicator, who took advantage of his larki. He said that Muslims were crazy like animals so he thought let me respond by swearing at the Christians to calm down the Muslims before they get violent and he said that this is very wise and from his holy intentions. It should be noted, we haven’t found any Muslims living in British-india who dared to criticize Christianity, MGA was the only person who was allowed to do so.

However, these are lies, the Nur-e-Afshan never wrote anything like this.
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Mirza Ghulam Ahmad called Maulvi Sa’dullah as the son of a prostitute (1897) in Anjam-e-Athim

Mirza Ghulam Ahmad loved to curse his opponents. His favorite method of cursing was to call someone as a “sons of a prostitutes” (Zurrayatul Baghaya), or bitch or pig, or to call a man a woman or womanly. There are so many instances. MGA even called the wife of his first cousin as a prostitute, the Ahmadiyya editing team edited this out also, however, we have found it.  It seems that in 1897, MGA and his team called Sa’dullah as a son of prostitutes (ibn Bagha).  However, after Sa’dullah died in 1907, MGA refused to even mention that part of his poetry from 10 years earlier. Interestingly enough, Mirza Bashir Ahmad tells us that Muhammad Ali ( one of MGA’s lawyer’s and employees) told MGA not to mention how he had called Sa’dullah as the son of prostitutes, since Muhammad Ali feared legal recourse. This would be defamation, MGA had narrowly escaped a defamation case in 1904. Dard tells us it was Khwaja Kamaluddin and not Muhammad Ali however. However, by 1935, Mirza Bashir Ahmad said: The lawyer was Khwajah Kamal-ud-Din. In al-Hakam, volume 38, number 7, February 28, 1935, pages 3–4, narrating the eye-witness accounts of Maulavi Muhammad Ibrahim Baqapuri (see the 2009 online edition of Tadhkirah).
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Who is Reverend Imad-ud-Din?

Imad-ud-Din Lahiz (1830−1900) seems to have been born a Muslim and apostated and thus became a Christian in 1866. He called himself Lahiz and says that he belonged to Panipat and was a Taili by caste (See Manshur-e-Muhammadi, Bangalore, Vol.1, No. 19, dated Dhilhij 27th, 1268 A. H.).

Per #ahmadiyya sources, MGA’s first interaction with Padre Imad ud Din was in 1886. It seems that MGA sent him his announcement in terms of the Musleh Maud prophecy. After the Athim prophecy failed, Padre Imad ud Din seems to have poked fun at MGA. He died in 1900.

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After the Lekh Ram murder, MGA was tipped off that his house was about to be searched

The entire Lekh Ram murder story is fishy, an Ahmadi, Dr. Mirza Yacub Baig just so happened to be the doctor on-call and on-staff at the time that Lekh Ram arrived at the Mayo Hospital in Lahore. Lekh Ram was still alive and well, however, the Ahmadi doctor wasn’t able to save him, in fact, in jest, this Ahmadi doctor wrote to MGA soon after Lekh Ram died and told MGA that Lekh Ram was screaming, “Mirza sahib please save me”. Furthermore, even Syed Muhammad Hussain Batalvi was accusing MGA of arranging for the murder and gave many proofs which were also recorded in Kitab ul Barriyya. Dr. Clark soon had a person come to his Church and claim that MGA had also sent him for a murder. We all remember how Athim was almost murdered many times during MGA’s 15-month death prophecy.

Nevertheless, via Dard, we know that MGA’s house was searched (see pages 528-529), listen to this Qadiani murrabi explain it here also. This murrabi explains how Mir Nasir Nawab was tipped off that the police was coming and he immediately informed MGA, thus, they were able to hide the evidence of involvement in the murder. View my tiktok on this herein. Remember, Mirza Ghulam Ahmad re-issued the Lekh Ram prophecy, after it expired. It should also be noted that MGA pushed Lekh Ram to criticize Islam, and thus, in the 1920’s Rangila Rasul was published and a major attack against the personality of Muhammad (Saw) was started, and it was all MGA’s fault.

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“Jang-e-Muqaddas” in english as ‘Holy War”, published in 1895, summary, background info and quotes

This is an Urdu only book which seems to have been published in the early part 1895 (based on a stamp on the original edition), it seems to be a biased summary of the written debate between MGA (and his team) and Abdullah Athim (See Hidden Treasures). There are three books, one after another, Hujjatul-Islam, Sachcha’i Ka Izhar and Jang-e-Muqaddas, are all inter-connected and have a common theme. Hujjatul-Islam deals with the terms and conditions that were settled between MGA (and his team) and the Christian missionaries led by Dr. Henry Martyn Clark. The second book, Sachcha’i Ka Izhar in addition to discussing the terms of the debate with Christian missionaries, covers various invitations issued by MGA to Muslims to join him in a prayer duel. It also carries the text of an agreement on the part of ‘Abdullah Atham to become Muslim if he was defeated.

As we all know, Athim didn’t die in the 15 month-period, thus, the prophecy failed and MGA was embarrassed.

The Holy War, Ruhani Khaza’in Vol. 6 p. 150, Also called “jung-e-muqaddas”.  This was translated by the Ahmadi mullah who wrote this article.

“Sir, the answer to yesterday’s mubahila [prayer duel] is this that as Christians, we do not see the need for new miracles in support of the old teachings and neither do we see ourselves fit to do so…And nor are we claimants to this. However you [the Promised Messiah] are very proud of being a claimant as such. We do not refuse to see miracles…Therefore we bring forth three people amongst whom one is blind, one has a leg cut off and the other is mute. Cure therefore whosoever you can from among them… and therefore live up to your challenge now in the presence of all these Christian and Muslim fellows.”
Jang-e-Muqaddas, p.152, Ruhani Khaza’in, vol. 6, p. 234, via Hidden Treasures

“””This objection of compulsion can, however, be raised against your scriptures. In Exodus, 4: 21, God said to Moses: I shall harden the heart of Pharaoh. If this heart was hardened its consequence was that he was condemned to hell. Also see Exodus, 7:3; Proverbs, 16:4;
Exodus, 10:3 and Deuteronomy, 29:4: God has not bestowed on you minds that may understand and eyes that may see and ears that may hear. Is this not a clear instance of compulsion? Then see Psalms, 148:6: He appointed a decree that cannot be averted. All these references show that your own scriptures are open to the objection that you have raised against the Holy Quran.””
The Holy War, Ruhani Khaza’in, Vol. 6 p. 292, Also called “jung-e-muqaddas”.  This was translated by the Ahmadi mullah who wrote this article.

“What opened unto me tonight is that when I prayed to Almighty God with much humility and passion that ‘O Allah decide this matter between us and we are humble people and we cannot do anything without Your decision,’ He gave me the sign as a glad tiding that the party out of the two groups who is intentionally lying and is rejecting the True God and is making a humble man into god, shall be thrown in to the Hawiya in fifteen months time. He shall face great disgrace (the term fifteen months is according to the number of days of the debate, each day equalling a month). This is subject to him not reverting to the truth. And for the one who is upon the truth and is following the True God, this sign shall manifest his honour. And when this prophecy is fulfilled, some blind people shall begin to see and some lame people shall begin to walk and some deaf people shall begin to hear…”
The Holy War, Ruhani Khaza’in, Vol. 6, pp. 153-154, Also called “jung-e-muqaddas”.  This was translated by the Ahmadi mullah who wrote this article.

“Let it be clear that this challenge cannot apply to us because Allah the Almighty has not made it a sign of ours in the Qur’an, that it is a specific sign of yours that you shall put your hands on the sick and they shall be cured. Yes, He does say that He shall according to His Will, accept your prayers, and at least if your prayers are not worthy of acceptance and go against God’s policies, then you shall be informed about it. He does not say anywhere that you shall be given the power to miraculously do whatever you wish…”

This quote is unverified

Roohani Khazain, volume 6, page 250 and 2. Jang-e-Moqaddas, page 170

 “You are still ignorant of the Muslim beliefs, do you not understand that if a person was forced and compelled By the noble Quran. When the Quran explicitly commanded cutting off the hand of the thief and STONING THE ADULTERER, and not stoning anyone, the Noble Qur’an mentioned the choice and freedom of the man, not in one or two verses, but in hundreds of verses”

The scan work 


Roohani Khazain vol.6 p.65

“I am ready for the Holy War.” 

Roohani Khazain vol.,6 p.49

“I swear upon God that God told me ‘whatever was given to the Massiah (Jesus) has been given to you and you are the Promised Messiah.”

Roohani Khazain vol.6, p. 291

“””Next day some Christians brought one blind, one deaf and a paralysed man. Mr Atham challenged Mirza Ghulam to cure them of their illnesses, just as Hazrat Eisa Ibne Maryam did. Of course he could not do it.”””

Roohani Khazain vol.6, p.292

“God has informed me last night that ‘He who is delibrately lying, leaving the true God and making a simple man God, he will be punished by being thrown in hell within 15 months and will be disgraced unless he accepts the truth (that is Islam). And he who is on truth and believes in true God, his honour will be restored. And when this prophecy is fulfilled some blind will start seeing, paralysed start walking and deaf start hearing.”

Roohani Khazain vol.6, p.293

“I ADMIT if this prophecy proves to be false, that is he who is wrong is not punished by death withn 15 months from today, I am prepared to recieve any punishment, I should be disgraced, paint my face black, put a rope around my neck, hang me. I am ready for every punishment and I swear upon God that He will definitely fulfil it, definitely fulfil it, definitely fulfil it. Earth and Heavens can change but His words can never be anulled.”

Roohani Khazain vol.6, p.48-49

“””Mirza agreed that if the sign of his truthfulness is not shown, then he will admit that he is not from God and will give up his Islamic faith or give away half of his property for the propagation ofChristianity.”””
Jang-i-Muqaddas, P. 2

“It is possible that heaven and earth may heavens might be shaken from their place but the promise of God is unshakable.”

Links and Related Essay’s

The Holy War – Part 2 of 2

When the Athim prophecy was about to expire….

Lekh Ram’s murder, the details, #aryasamaj #lekhram

Mirza Ghulam Ahmad had 5 written debates, NO ORAL Debates

The Punjab Mission News and Mirza Ghulam Ahmad’s death prophecy vs. Athim

Anjam-e-Athim (1897) quotes

MGA’s nasty poetry vs the Christian Abdullah Athim

After Mirza Ghulam Ahmad’s lost the debate with Athim, 3 of his followers left Ahmadiyya

Mirza Ghulam Ahmad vs. Athim—through the lens of Asif M Basit–Review of Religions 2013

The Holy War – Part 2 of 2

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Fateh Masih vs. Mirza Ghulam Ahmad (1888–1896)

Fateh Masih was the person who told MGA to make his claim of being the Mahdi based on the eclipses of March and April 1894 (See the scans in the below from the Nur Afshan). Fateh Masih also wrote this in private letters to MGA as such. He urged MGA to go to Mecca and make his claims. Fateh Masih was posted at Fatehgarh, District Gurdaspur and was working as a Christian Missionary. These were the eclipses that MGA used to solidify his claim of being the Mahdi and were written in Nurul-Haqq Part-2. However, there are authentic hadith reports from Muhammad (saw) which clearly assert that eclipses don’t signify the birth of anyone.

MGA’s interactions with Fateh Masih go back to May of 1888, this was before MGA’s wildest claims of being the Messiah were made and even before MGA created his community (See Dard). In 1893, during MGA’s written debate and death prophecy vs. Athim, Fateh Masih was listening to the news. After the prophecy expired, Fateh Masih would poke fun at MGA for losing (See Dard).

MGA also wrote a letter to Fateh Masih on February 1, 1895, in which he said that the harsh words in his answer were not used in any fit or temper but only to teach the Christian missionary how to behave decently in such matters (See Hidden Treasures).

Fateh Masih continued to poke fun at MGA for his failed death prophecy vs. Athim in the Nur Afshan (See Dard).

In late 1895, MGA seems to have dedicated his entire book, Noorul Quran, Part-2 towards Fateh Masih.
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Mirza Ghulam Ahmad and Mubahila, everything you need to know

Factually, Muslims rarely ever did any Mubahila’s in the entire history of Islam. According to Islamic sources, the event of Mubahala was a meeting between the Islamic prophet Muhammad and a Christian delegation from Najran (present-day Saudi Arabia)(see 3:61 of  the Quran). Muhammad (Saw) was not setting an example by this, this was an isolated incident that never came to fruition.

Mirza Ghulam Ahmad took this incident and fraudulently made it a standard. Mubahila could never be done Muslim to Muslim, however, MGA made that a standard of his prophethood also. In fact, in roughly 1891, MGA began doing Mubahila’s with Muslims and not Christians. The very first Mubahila that MGA had was with Abdul Haq, and its tricky. In 1891, via Izala Auham, MGA was claiming that Abdul Haq was asking for a Mubahila, which is not proven at all. By 1893, after MGA lost his debate with Athim, he started claiming that Muslims could solve their religious disputes via Mubahila, and that MGA’s god had specifically told him as such (see the quote in the below, under 1893). This seems to have happened on 27 May, 1893, towards the end of the Athim debate. This seems to be MGA’s first ever Mubahila, and that, vs. a Muslim. By 1899, the British government ordered MGA to stop. It seems like the British could stop the fake prophet from Qadian. Fast forward to 1988, Mirza Tahir Ahmad had been challenging all the Muslims in the world from 1984 to Mubahila, barely anyone noticed or cared. When Zia died, Mirza Tahir Ahmad falsely claimed victory via Mubahila, however, Zia had never accepted any terms of conditions of Mubahila. Bashir Ahmad Misri did and was ignored.

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