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In British-India, anti-government sentiment was not allowed, freedom of speech was not allowed, freedom of religion was only allowed to let the Christian missionaries in and to divide the Indian Muslims and Hindu’s. Thus, Batalvi wrote Pro-British, since he had no other option, however, this was all lip service, Muslims weren’t authentically supporting the British. In the below, you will see some scans from the Ishaat us Sunnah magazine, wherein Batalvi talks about MGA. The quote from Vol. 16 seems to be from 1896-97.

On the other side, Ahmadi’s were authentically supporting the British Government and even gave Quranic evidence, like 4:59.

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After the fake stream by the Qadiani’s yesterday, I was on my friends youtube channel (Dawah over Dunya) and Adnan Rashid showed up.  Timestamps are roughly 1:26:00 to 1:50:00. We discussed the 156-page review of the Barahin by Batalvi (and how Qadiani’s only quote a few lines) and how MGA’s children exposed the character of MGA in 1923 (Via Seeratul Mahdi) and revealed about the pension stealing saga and how MGA was totally kicked out of his house by his father (Mirza Ghulam Murtaza) and could only return when his mother (Charagh Bibi) died.

Adnan Rashid also advised Muslims to learn first via #Ahmadiyyafactcheckblog and other websites that might be written by Academics like Bashir Ahmad Shah. Check out this clip also.

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In 1884, after BA4 was published, MGA was immediately called a Kafir by a few of the Ahl-e-hadith ulema of North India. They accused MGA of claiming prophethood in the Barahin. Two brothers Maulana Abdullah and Maulana Muhammad Ludhianvi issued a decree of excommunication against Mirza immediately after he issued first volumes of Barahin Ahmadiyya (See Tarikh e Ahmadiyya).

MGA remained silent, however, MGA’s close friend and fellow ahl-e-hadith Muslim Syed Muhammad Hussain Batalvi came to MGA’s aid in his own newspaper, the “Isha‘atus-Sunnah” of winter 1884. In his newspaper he defended MGA to those who were doing Takfir on him, He argued that MGA was not really claiming prophethood, it was all a mis-understanding.

In 1902, MGA mentions this incident in “I’jaz-e-Ahmadi”, in english as “Miracle of Ahmad”, he mentions 3 ahl-e-hadith imam’s who called him Kafir: Muhammad, Abdul Aziz and Abdullah. MGA explains that they called him Kafir since MGA had named himself as Eisa (As) and ascribedall the prophecies of Eisa (as) onto himself. Maulvi Muhammad Hussain Batalvi argues on behalf of MGA and told Muhammad, Abdul Aziz and Abdullah (ahl-e-hadith imam’s from Ludhiana) that they were wrong with their assertions, since MGA was also claiming that Eisa (As) would physically return in the same book. However, time would tell, MGA was lying. He lied about his prophethood the same way.

MGA never said a word about this topic until 1891. In January of 1891, MGA claimed to be the Messiah and again denied prophethood. However, this time, Syed Muhammad Hussain Batalvi  was at the forefront of the Takfir vs. MGA. MGA kept on denying his prophethood for 10 years, until 1901, wherein he finally claimed prophethood in a sneaky way and backdated it to 1880, when he first published the Barahin-i-Ahmadiyya vol. 1-2.

Nevertheless, in the below, we have made the 156 page review by Syed Muhammad Hussain Batalvi from 1884 available as a free download.

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We have recently wrote extensively about MGA and his debate in Delhi with Nadhir Hussain in Oct of 1891. We have found additional information from the Ishaat us Sunnah Magazine which explains what MGA did during these debates.

Ishaat us Sunnah, Volume-14 , publication Year 1891, pages 2 onwards:
Continue reading “Muhammad Hussain Batalvi wrote about Mirza Ghulam Ahmad’s circus debate in Delhi in 1891” →

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Syed Muhammad Hussain Batalvi (1840-1920) was a contemporary of Mirza Ghulam Ahmad in the Punjab. They were both born during the the last 8-9 years of Sikh rule and were under the Ramgharia Misl, which was annexed into the greater Sikh Empire in roughly 1816 by Ranjit Singh. They were both educated by the same teachers as British rule began in roughly 1850.  Their parents also knew each other, when MGA’s family went to Batala, they always stayed at the ancestoral home of Syed Muhammad Hussain Batalvi. They were both Ahl-e-Hadith Muslims aka Wahabis. In 1878 Batalvi started the Ishaat us Sunnah magazine and gave MGA space to market his new book-series, the Braheen-e-Ahmadiyya. In 1881, Batalvi gave MGA an exhaustive review and supported MGA’s work via the Ahl-e-Hadith. In 1884, when MGA wanted to get married, Batalvi had a list of young girls with him and shared it with MGA, this is how they found out about the daughter of Mir Nasir Nawab. The Ahl-e-Hadith grew weary of MGA in late 1884 and some even called MGA a Kafir, since MGA was boasting about divine revelations in his book series (the Braheen), neverthless, Batalvi stuck up for MGA yet again. By 1889 they became enemies, since MGA claimed to be the second coming of Esa (as). They organized debates with each other and jousted from their magazines until 1899, when the British government stepped in and absolved MGA and forced Batalvi to never insult MGA ever again (by calling him kafir or otherwise). His disputes with Ahmadiyya seem to have ended here.  However, he did have a famous debate with a Quranist in 1902 and his sons were found at Qadian in 1910, later on they recanted and left Ahmadiyya.
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Mirza Ghulam Ahmad was really close friends with Batalvi going back to his childhood days, in fact, they even shared some of the same teachers. However, MGA began praying for people to die as early as 1880, nevertheless, by 1884 he was at odds with the ulema of India in terms of his claim of getting divine revelation. By 1889, MGA had turned on Muslims as he claimed that Esa (As) was dead and never returning and indicating that he (MGA) was an Esa (as) and others could also come. By 1893, he was telling the world that Lekh Ram would die violently, he was thus murdered in Lahore and was still alive until he got to the Mayo Hospital in Lahore and the Ahmadi doctor who just so happened to be on duty let him die (March 6th,1897). Athim was also given many death threats and eventually died of old age, which MGA argued fulfilled his prophecy. MGA beat the case, the same way he beat all of his cases, with the help of the British government. Kashful Ghita was published by the Ahmadiyya jamaat in 1898 in english. In this book MGA denied that he was publishing a death prophecy, he fell back and said it was just a prayer. Furthermore, he denied ever having a dream/ilham which indicated the end of the British Government within 8 years, however, by 1929, many Ahmadi’s came forward and admitted that MGA did in-fact have this dream/ilham, thus proving that MGA lied in his book. The British courts dropped the case vs. MGA and forced him and Batlalvi to sign a 6 clause declaration, wherein both of them agreed to stop insulting each other in the press and to stop doing death prophecies aka Mubahila’s. Thus, the British government ordered MGA to stop his silly death prophecies again. This was because of the help that MGA’s father gave the British in 1857, hence, MGA was above the law in British India. Even when MGA was totally guilty of breaking the law, the Brits pardoned him. MGA had some insults written about Batalvi in his newspaper also (the al-Hakam, however, in court MGA denied any connections to that newspaper). Batalvi never engaged MGA ever again after 1900. Later in 1910, a few of Batalvi’s sons were forcibly taken to Qadian and Batalvi was allowed to publish an essay in the ROR.
Continue reading “Out of fear from Ahmadi’s and MGA’s fake prophecies, Batalvi registered to buy a gun (1898-1899), but was denied” →

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MGA avoided public debates, in fact, he only competed in 5 total debates in his 30- year career (1878–1908), and they were all written debates. MGA stuttered and was thus incapable of articulating in any language.  n July 1891, MGA had a scheduled debate with Molana Muhammad Hussain Batalvi at Ludhiana and ran away from there on 31 July.

Summary of the scans in the below (from Ishaat us sunnah Volume-14 , publication Year 1891, pages 2 onwards).
Continue reading “Mirza Ghulam Ahmad vs. Molana Muhammad Hussain Batalvi and Muslims leaders in British-India in August of 1891” →

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A Pamphlet having shown 43 claims (titles) of Mirza qadyani and poetry by Ahle hadith ulema by the Title ‘Nakama Nabi” or “The Useless Prophet” (in english) Mirza Qadyani and his 43 titles claimed (printed in 1937) by Babu Ghulam Mustafa Sb son of the famous Syed Muhammad Hussain Batalvi.
_____________________________________________________________________________________________The Pamphlet

Nikama-Nabi by
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Syed Muhammad Hussain Batalvi was a great friend of MGA and then later became a major enemy. However, after MGA died, Batalvi seemed to have buried the hatchet, he was allowed to write an article in the ROR in 1910. Lahori-Ahmadis sources tell us that it was Dr. Mirza Yacub Bag who found 1 son of Batalvi and brought him to Qadian for free food and shelter (See Mujadid e Azim, online abridged version, see page 798). We have conflicting stories however, the Qadiani’s tell us that Batalvi sent his children, whereas Lahori-Ahmadi sources tell otherwise.
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