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Mirza Ghulam Ahmad’s Mubahila in 1889 with Syed Muhammad Hussain Batalvi

Intro
We have found a little known event in MGA’s life that the Ahmadiyya movement has desperately tried to erase.  As we all know, MGA and Batalvi were really good friends since childhood, Batalvi only turned his back on MGA in early 1891 when MGA claimed that Esa (As) died and that he (MGA) was the Messiah.  However, this is a lie, it wasn’t 1891, it was the summer of 1889 when MGA made his wildest claims of Messiahship and that Esa (As) was dead.  In previous essays, we had begun to uncover this issue.  We had also found references to the Ishaat us Sunnah of 1889, wherein MGA and Batalvi had began feuding.  Thus, proving that MGA made his wild claims in 1889, not late 1890/early 1891.  We also discovered how the first Part of Izala Auham was published in 1889 or early 1890.  We also found discrepancies in the publishing date of Fat-e-Islam.  We have just found an additional reference which proves our case entirely.  Its from MGA’s book, “Haqiqatul Mahdi” (Reality of the Mahdi)(1899), this book was written and published in 1899.  In this book, in the online english version of the book, which was published in 2017, it is stated by MGA that an announcement was published which was called “Mubahala” (see page 24).  However, if we check MGA’s book of announcements, this announcement simply doesn’t exist.  If we then check Ahmadiyya sources, we find the same thing, this entire event is totally missing from all Ahmadiyya sources.  It seems that the Ahmadiyya editors totally wiped this incident out of the historical records in an attempt to move MGA’s official date of claiming to be the Messiah to 1891.

1889 was important
Remember, this year was MGA’s big year.  His promised son was born in January, he held his bait ceremony a few months later in March, that bait form and list of names is also missing mysteriously.  MGA then went to Aligarh and backed out of his planned lecture to University officials.

November 1889
MGA claims to have written an announcement in November of 1889, this was an announcement of Mubahila vs. Syed Muhammad Hussain Batalvi.

Links and Related Essays
https://ahmadiyyafactcheckblog.com/2017/12/26/did-mirza-ghulam-ahmad-claim-to-be-the-messiah-in-1889/

https://www.alislam.org/library/books/True-Nature-of-the-Mahdi.pdf

https://ahmadiyyafactcheckblog.com/2018/12/03/the-first-bait-form-in-ahmadiyya-included-an-oath-of-loyalty-to-the-british-government-1889-to-1947/

https://ahmadiyyafactcheckblog.com/2019/01/14/who-is-syed-muhammad-hussain-batalvi-1840-1920/

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Who is Syed Muhammad Hussain Batalvi? 1840-1920

Intro
Syed Muhammad Hussain Batalvi (1840-1920) was a contemporary of Mirza Ghulam Ahmad in the Punjab.  They were both born during the the last 8-9 years of Sikh rule and were under the Ramgharia Misl, which was annexed into the greater Sikh Empire in roughly 1816 by Ranjit Singh.  They were both educated by the same teachers as British rule began in roughly 1850.  Their parents also knew each other, when MGA’s family went to Batala, they always stayed at the ancestoral home of Syed Muhammad Hussain Batalvi.  They were both Ahl-e-Hadith Muslims aka Wahabis.  In 1878 Batalvi started the Ishaat us Sunnah magazine and gave MGA space to market his new book-series, the Braheen-e-Ahmadiyya.  In 1881, Batalvi gave MGA an exhaustive review and supported MGA’s work via the Ahl-e-Hadith.  In 1884, when MGA wanted to get married, Batalvi had a list of young girls with him and shared it with MGA, this is how they found out about the daughter of Mir Nasir Nawab.  The Ahl-e-Hadith grew weary of MGA in late 1884 and some even called MGA a Kafir, since MGA was boasting about divine revelations in his book series (the Braheen), neverthless, Batalvi stuck up for MGA yet again.  By 1889 they became enemies, since MGA claimed to be the second coming of Esa (as).  They organized debates with each other and jousted from their magazines until 1899, when the British government stepped in and absolved MGA and forced Batalvi to never insult MGA ever again (by calling him kafir or otherwise).  His disputes with Ahmadiyya seem to have ended here.  However, he did have a famous debate with a Quranist in 1902 and his sons were found at Qadian in 1910, later on they recanted and left Ahmadiyya.

The 1850’s
MGA and Batalvi used some of the same teachers and were classmates at many times, most likely in Batala.

1860–1869
Batalvi studied Hadith, logic and grammar from Molvi Syed Nazeer Husain (1805-1901).  The same Maulvi that read MGA’s nikkah in 1884.

1869
After his mother died, and MGA completed his punishment, MGA returned to Qadian from Sialkot.  MGA abruptly visits Batala and almost has a debate with Batalvi, however, MGA comments that he agrees with everything Batalvi is saying (see BA4, pages 399-400).  Batalvi  had finished his studies on islam and as now an imam-proper.  This entire scenario happened in a mosque in Batala (see Dard, page 54).

1878
He starts his newspaper, Ishaat us Sunnah, which runs until 1900 and then goes missing.  It seems to have been replaced with a new newspaper, the “Ahl-i-Hadis”.  Which was edited by Maulvi Sanaullah.

1882
MGA mentions batalvi in BA3, on page 7 of the online english edition.  They seem to be very good friends.  MGA claims that Batalvi works as a secretary of the Anjuman-i-Hamdardi Islamia, Lahore.  Which is most likely the Anjuman Himayat-i Islam.  Maybe out of respect, MGA wrote it the way he did.

1884-MGA mentioned Batalvi in BA4
On pages 399-400, MGA remembers his debate with Batalvi that never happened.

1884 
Batalvi gives MGA’s Braheen-e-Ahmadiyya series a glowing review, however, after the 4th volume is published, the Ahl-e-Hadith Muslims call MGA a Kafir.  Batalvi sticks up for MGA in this era and claims that MGA is not claiming prophethood, only divine revelations.

1887
The magazine became quite popular and was recognized by notable scholars and Government Officials. When Sir Charles Umpherston Aitchison, Governor of the Punjab from 1882-1887, left the area in April 1887, he gave Muhammad Hussain, a certificate testifying to his ability and learning. Muhammad Hussain proudly records this fact (See ‘ Isha‘atus Sunnah’ Vol. 20, No. 3).

1888
MGA mentions Batalvi on page 20 of “The Green Announcement”.  They seem to still be friends up to this point.  MGA even refers to him an “eminent person”, we are not sure what the Urdu word is here for “eminent person”.

1889
Batalvi begins to question MGA and his claims of being the second coming of Esa (as).  This spills over into the early part of 1890.

1891
A full blown war breaks out between MGA and Batalvi.  They arrange to debate each other in Ludhiana, however, MGA requests the British government to intervene and save him.  This debate lasted for twelve days, from 20 July – 31 July 1891.  The venue was the ‘Masjid Awanan’ (Awana’s Mosque) at Ludhiana.  This was a written debate, wherein someone other then MGA read out MGA’s (alleged) writings.  The written papers of both sides were later published by MGA as Al-Haq Mubahathah Ludhiana (Urdu). [i.e. Truth: the Ludhiana Debate].  Batalvi goes around the Punjab and gets the majority of the Ulema to pass a Fatwa of Kufr on MGA.

1892
MGA mentions Batalvi extensively in his book, ‘Nishan Asmani’ in english as “Heavenly Signs”.

March 17th, 1892
On roughly March 17th, 1891, MGA predicts that Batalvi would die in 40 days time or would suffer a major tragedy.  It expires on April 27th and Batalvi is fine, Batalvi then writes about it in his newspaper, this prediction isn’t published by MGA until 1893, in a book called, Aina Kamalat e Islam at page 601-604.

May 4th, 1893
MGA publishes a prophecy about Batalvi, that would he repent and stop calling MGA a Kafir and etc (see page 39).  Ahmadi’s claim that this was fulfilled when the British Government ordered him to never call MGA or Ahmadi’s as Kafirs ever again in 1899 and it was manifested in 1911-1913 era, when he was called to court to testify about Ahmadi’s.

Oct-Dec 1898
He claims that MGA broke the law and conducted a prophecy vs. himself.  Even though MGA is guilty, the British government absolves MGA.  MGA issues another prophecy against Batalvi, MGA claims that Batalvi will be disgraced by Feb 1900.

1902
Ahmadiyya sources tell us that In November of 1902 a debate took place between Muhammad
Hussain Batalavi and ‘Abdullah Chakrhalavi on the importance and position of the Holy Quran and the hadith.  Chakrhalavi was the founder of the Ahl-e-Quran sect of North India, he died in 1931.

1905
In Lecture Ludhiana, MGA mentions Batalvi, and even says that he visited Qadian often from roughly 1855–1889.  MGA also mentions the case of 1898 wherein Capt. Le Marchand saved MGA from going to jail.

1907
MGA and his team publish a dream of MGA wherein it seems that Batalvi will convert to Ahmadiyya. It seems that MGA was still hoping that Batalvi would eventually accept MGA as the Messiah (See 2009 Online edition of Tadhkirah, pages 949-950).

1910
2 of his children seem to have been taken to Qadian by Ahmadi’s and forcibly converted to Ahmadiyya.  Later on they recanted.  He also appears as a witness in some Ahmadiyya related cases.

1920
Batalvi dies.

1931
Ahmadi’s publish: “Batalvi Ka Anjam” by Mir Qasim Ali.

1937
The son of Batalvi writes a book about MGA called “The useless Prophet”.

2019
Via twitter, Ahmadi’s share info that some of the great grandsons of Batalvi have become Ahmadi.

Links and Related Essays

https://ahmadiyyafactcheckblog.com/2018/12/30/out-of-fear-from-ahmadis-and-mgas-fake-prophecies-batalvi-registered-to-buy-a-gun-1898-1899-but-was-denied/

https://www.alislam.org/library/books/Conclusive-Argument-Islam.pdf

https://ahmadiyyafactcheckblog.com/2019/01/13/what-is-raz-e-haqiqat-in-english-as-a-hidden-truth/

https://www.alislam.org/library/books/Barahin-e-Ahmadiyya-Part-4.pdf

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Molvi_Muhammad_Hussain_Batalvi

https://ahmadiyyafactcheckblog.com/2016/11/07/mgas-teachers-were-opium-addicts-2/

https://ahmadiyyafactcheckblog.com/2018/02/03/a-young-mirza-ghulam-ahmad-stole-his-daddys-pension-money-and-was-punished-by-never-being-able-to-see-his-mother-again/

https://www.alislam.org/library/books/TheHeavenlySign.pdf

https://ahmadiyyafactcheckblog.com/2018/12/29/what-is-the-ishaat-us-sunnah-the-ahle-hadith-newspaper-edited-muhammad-hussain-batlavi/

https://ahmadiyyafactcheckblog.com/2017/10/20/ishaat-us-sunnah-the-ahle-hadith-newspaper-some-quotes/

https://ahmadiyyafactcheckblog.com/2017/06/19/ahmadiyya-leadership-lied-about-the-age-of-mgas-second-wife/

https://ahmadiyyafactcheckblog.com/2017/08/30/batalvi-ka-anjam-by-mir-qasim-ali-1931/

https://ahmadiyyafactcheckblog.com/2018/05/30/nikama-nabi-or-the-useless-prophet-by-babu-ghulam-mustafa-sb-son-of-muhammad-hussain-batalvi/

https://ahmadiyyafactcheckblog.com/2017/12/09/mirza-ghulam-ahmad-was-considered-a-kafir-in-1884-before-his-wild-claims/

https://ahmadiyyafactcheckblog.com/2017/12/26/did-mirza-ghulam-ahmad-claim-to-be-the-messiah-in-1889/

https://ahmadiyyafactcheckblog.com/2017/12/09/mirza-ghulam-ahmad-was-accused-of-claiming-prophethood-in-the-1879-1884-era/

https://ahmadiyyafactcheckblog.com/2016/09/06/mirza-ghulams-ahmad-lecture-in-amritsar-nov-1905-was-not-a-lecture-it-was-a-riot/

https://ahmadiyyafactcheckblog.com/2017/10/15/mirza-ghulam-ahmads-debate-with-batalvi-summer-of-1891-was-stopped-by-the-british-govt-on-mgas-behalf/

https://ahmadiyyafactcheckblog.com/2018/12/30/out-of-fear-from-ahmadis-and-mgas-fake-prophecies-batalvi-registered-to-buy-a-gun-1898-1899-but-was-denied/

https://ahmadiyyafactcheckblog.com/2017/12/10/the-fatwa-e-kufr-vs-mirza-ghulam-ahmad-1891/

https://ahmadiyyafactcheckblog.com/2017/12/01/mirza-ghulam-ahmad-vs-batalvi-1891-1892-era-mga-sent-10-lanats-on-batalvi/

https://ahmadiyyafactcheckblog.com/2018/12/30/out-of-fear-from-ahmadis-and-mgas-fake-prophecies-batalvi-registered-to-buy-a-gun-1898-1899-but-was-denied/

https://ahmadiyyafactcheckblog.com/2018/03/31/batalvi-sent-some-of-his-children-to-qadian-for-schooling/

https://www.alislam.org/library/books/ReviewBatalaviChakrhalavi.pdf

https://www.alislam.org/library/books/The-Green-Announcement.pdf

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Out of fear from Ahmadi’s and MGA’s fake prophecies, Batalvi registered to buy a gun (1898-1899), but was denied

Intro
Mirza Ghulam Ahmad was really close friends with Batalvi going back to his childhood days, in fact, they even shared some of the same teachers.  However, MGA began praying for people to die as early as 1880, nevertheless, by 1884 he was at odds with the ulema of India in terms of his claim of getting divine revelation.  By 1889, MGA had turned on Muslims as he claimed that Esa (As) was dead and never returning and indicating that he (MGA) was an Esa (as) and others could also come.  By 1893, he was telling the world that Lekh Ram would die violently, he was thus murdered in Lahore and was still alive until he got to the Mayo Hospital in Lahore and the Ahmadi doctor who just so happened to be on duty let him die (March 6th,1897).  Athim was also given many death threats and eventually died of old age, which MGA argued fulfilled his prophecy.  MGA beat the case, the same way he beat all of his cases, with the help of the British government.  Kashful Ghita was published by the Ahmadiyya jamaat in 1898 in english.  In this book MGA denied that he was publishing a death prophecy, he fell back and said it was just a prayer.  Furthermore, he denied ever having a dream/ilham which indicated the end of the British Government within 8 years, however, by 1929, many Ahmadi’s came forward and admitted that MGA did in-fact have this dream/ilham, thus proving that MGA lied in his book.  The British courts dropped the case vs. MGA and forced him and Batlalvi to sign a 6 clause declaration, wherein both of them agreed to stop insulting each other in the press and to stop doing death prophecies aka Mubahila’s.  Thus, the British government ordered MGA to stop his silly death prophecies again.  This was because of the help that MGA’s father gave the British in 1857, hence, MGA was above the law in British India. Even when MGA was totally guilty of breaking the law, the Brits pardoned him.  MGA had some insults written about Batalvi in his newspaper also (the al-Hakam, however, in court MGA denied any connections to that newspaper).  Batalvi never engaged MGA ever again.

Oct-November of 1898
Some Muslims of India ask Batalvi to officially engage MGA in a Mubahila (see Dard page, 604–608).  On November 10th, 1898, Muhammad Baksh of Lahore (manager of the Ja‘far Zatalli, Tajul Hind Press), along with a colleague of his, Abul Hasan Tibbati, published a reply to the Ahmadi’s of Patiala, Simla, Allahabad, Batala, Amritsar, Lahore, Bhera, Sialkot and to MGA.

October 1898
MGA’s house is raided and searched by Inspector Rana Jalal-ud-Din Khan, who had arrived in
Qadian under the command of the Superintendent of Police and surrounded MGA’s house. The Superintendent and the Inspector then climbed up to the roof of the mosque much to the consternation of Maulana Abdul Karim Sialkoti who was present on the roof and witnessed
this police action (see Mujadid e Azim, abridged english version).

MGA responds to the question of Mubahila with Batalvi
November 21st, 1898

“”””If I am, really a liar and an impostor as Muhammad Husain and his friends declare me
to be, then let me be disgraced. But if it is not so, O God, then bring disgrace upon them as
they have tried to bring disgrace upon me. Let them be disgraced within the next 13 months—
December 15th, 1898, to January 15th, 1900.””” (see Dard, page 605)Dard claims that MGA published an announcement, however, we haven’t found it as of yet.

MGA’s death prophecy vs. Batalvi is now official
MGA and Ahmadi’s were now praying that some disgrace happen to Batlavi in the in next 13 months.  This was against the order that MGA had just signed with the British government, Via Judge Captain Douglas wherein he promised to stop making “death prophecies” and “disgrace predictions”.

November 30th, 1898
On November 30th, 1898, MGA issued another leaflet in which he instructed his followers to observe patience under every kind of provocation. They should purify their hearts and stick to their ways of humility, meekness and love. They should persevere in prayer and wait for the judgement of God promised in his leaflet dated November 21st, 1898.

Breach of peace by MGA on December 1st, 1898?
There was an apprehension of a breach of the peace and that therefore MGA and Maulawi Muhammad Husain should both be bound over to keep the peace under section 107, Cr. P. C. Muhammad Husain, he said, had bought a sharp dagger made at Bhera which he showed as his weapon of self-defense. The Gurdaspur police endorsed the report and confirmed the allegation that MGA was violating the order of Capt. Douglas which prohibited him from making such prophecies.

Dec 5th,1898
On December 5, 1898, Batalvi applied for an arms licence for a pistol on the plea that his life was in danger on account of the prophecy made by MGA, Batalvi argued that MGA was getting his death prophecies fulfilled by his fanatical followers, thus Batalvi’s life was in danger. The case was fixed for hearing against MGA on January 9, 1899.

MGA gets an official notice to appear in court on Jan 9th, 1899
MGA came to know about the case instituted against him between December 10 and 15, 1898 and this book was published on December 27, 1898, in which he assured the Government and acquainted them with the peaceful principles of his Jama‘at. In this book, he also drew the attention of the authorities to the abuse and vituperation to which he was being subjected by
Maulavi Muhammad Hussain Batalvi and his friends. In the defense statement filed with the District Magistrate of Gurdaspur on January 27, 1899 (see Hidden Treasures).

The Kashful-Ghita was thus published
Dard tells us that MGA and his team wrote as follows:

“”””To recapitulate, five charges have been brought against me in this case: (1) that I habitually make prophecies of death or injury to others, (2) that I have disregarded the terms of the notice signed by me in Dr. Clark’s case by publishing a prophecy on November 21, 1898, (3) that I pre-arrange the fulfilment of my prophecies or make secret attempts to fulfil them afterwards, (4) that my writings are harsh and provocative, and (5) that my prophecy of November 21, 1898, is likely to cause a breach of peace.

My reply to them is:

(1) that no such prophecy was ever been published without the consent of the person about whom it was made and that it is only after much persistence on his part that such a course had been adopted,

(2) that the notice in question contains no prohibition against making a prophecy,

(3) that this was only a suspicion, not having the slightest evidence in support of it, and that the good conduct of my followers, the high moral tone of my teachings and the absence of any such assertion on the part of those about whom the prophecies were made, are strong proofs to reject such a supposition completely,

(4) that my writings are not provocative in the least, and this becomes clear on comparison of the
writing of the two parties, and

(5) that the prophecy had been made and fulfilled without causing any breach of peace.”””” (Life of Ahmad by A.R. Dard, online edition of 2008, pp. 633-634).

However, MGA lied about his 8-year prophecy of demise about the British Government
In roughly 1895, MGA saw a dream that he interpreted to mean that the demise of the British government would happen in 8 years.

Jan 9th, 1899 at Gurdaspur
MGA reached the court compound at about 10 o’clock, and waited till noon. The lawyer engaged by Maulawi Muhammad Husain could not come that day and at his telegraphic request the hearing was postponed by Mr. J. M. Dowie to January 11th, 1899.  The attitude of the magistrate (Dowie) appeared to be stiff. In a note he asked the parties to show cause why they should not both be bound over for a period of 12 months and also furnish security of Rs. 1,000 each (see Dard).

Jan 11th, 1899 at Gurdaspur
The hearing began on the 11th at Gurdaspur. MGA was represented by Mr. W. Browne, Sh. Fadl
Din, Sh. Ali Ahmad and Khwaja Kamal-ud-Din. Mr. Browne admitted that his client had issued the following: Ishtihar dated 1.11.1898 (b) Ishtihar dated 3.1.1899 (c) Ishtihar dated 6.1.1899 (d) Kashful Ghita (e) Ishtihar dated 7.1.1899. Maulawi Muhammad Husain admitted in court that he had published in his paper.

Batalvi’s comments in terms of MGA were discussed
1—-“”””That the Qadiani is a Dajjal of this time, a second Musailma, perfidious, deceiver, cheat,
liar and impostor, and that he is the enemy of the faith of Islam and all other heavenly faiths.””” (Vol. 16, No. 1, p. 6.).

2—“””Had we been under Muslim rule, we would have given you (Ahmadas) a proper reply. We
would have at once cut off your head with a sword and made you a dead body”””. (Vol. 18, No. 3, p. 95).

3—“””Otherwise He would send down the severest punishment upon you and drive you to
destruction””” (Vol. 15, No. 1, p. 15. See also Vol. 18, No. 7, p. 215).

4—-“””‘If you are a man and have any courage, then prove both your claims in an assembly of
learned men—you will not come into the field—I challenge you to a Mubahala. Come out into the field of Mubahala and take an oath”””. (Vol. 14, No. 12 p. 338).

5—-“””Have pity on the creatures of God and give up stratagems. Either accept Islam—or prove by means of a controversy or a Mubahala that these articles of faith which you profess do not
lead to Kufr.”””” (Vol. 18, No. 3, p. 77 See also Vol. 17, No, 12, p. 384; Vol. 18, No. 4, p. 132).

6—-“”””Having expressed many a time my readiness to have a Mubahala with him, I prevented his having recourse to a challenge for Mubahila. I showed the mischief contained in the conditions added by him to a Mubahila—when these machinations of his were broken and he was left helpless he devised another plan which he published in his Ishtihar of May 19th, 1897,
viz. both parties should pray to God without coming into the presence of each other. This
showed clearly that he was unable to have a Mubahila with me in my presence, and that
therefore no one should go to him in Qadian. I accepted this method also.””” (Vol. 18, No. 7, p.
197).

MGA’s comments in court at Gurdaspur
MGA stated in court that the prophecies about the Rev. Abdullah Athim and Pt. Lekhram had been made at their written request and with their consent.

Muhammad Bakhsh, who was a prosecution witness at Gurdaspur
He stated that he had been at Batala from 1893. In his opinion there was real danger to Muhammad Husain from MGA. Sayyid Bashir Husain, Police Inspector, also appeared in court and deposed that there was real danger to peace and that there had been strong suspicion against MGA in the matter of the murder of Pt. Lekhram. There was no suspicion against Muhammad Husain. The houses of MGA’s enemies were also searched when Pt. Lekhram was
murdered (See Dard).

January 13th, 1899 at Gurdaspur
MGA presented over 50+ witnesses to the court, however, the court complained that these were too many.

January 17th, 1899 at Gurdaspur
After asking MGA to reduce his amount of witnesses a second time.  The case continued.

January 27th, 1899 at Dhariwal

MGA presented the court with a 20-page letter in english (See Dard, 614-634).  MGA defended himself against all allegations.  Nevertheless, the case was extended.

Feb 3rd, 1899
MGA is sent a letter from the British courts that he might be forced to pay 1000 rupees as guarantee that he would keep the peace and thus not cause a “breach of peace”, which was against the law.

February 14th, 1899
MGA and his team wrote another letter begging to not have to pay the 1000 rupees and full of flattery.  (See Dard, pages 635-638).

February 24th, 1899
The Judge makes a final decision on the case, he forces MGA and Batalvi to sign a 6-clause declaration, wherein they will not be able to insult each other or make prophecies about each other (see Dard).  The case ends with this declaration.

The 6-clause declaration
(1) I will abstain from publishing any prophecy which implies or might reasonably be
considered to imply that any person will suffer disgrace or be an object of the Divine displeasure.

(2) I will abstain from publishing any appeal to God requesting that He will, by disgracing any person or by granting a sign that any person is an object of the Divine displeasure, show who is right and who wrong in any matter of religious controversy.

(3) I will abstain from publishing as an inspired message any statement which implies
or might reasonably be held to imply that any person will be disgraced or is an object of the
Divine displeasure.

(4) I will abstain from employing in any controversy with Mirza Ghulam Ahmad or any
friend or follower of his any abusive epithet or injurious expression and from publishing any
writing or picture which might cause him pain. I promise not to use with reference to him or
any friend or follower of his such expressions as Dajjal, Kafir, Liar, Kadiani. (note: Kadiani
spelt with a means cheat. J. M. Dowie). I will publish nothing with refererce to his
private life and family relations which might reasonably cause him pain.

(5) I will abstain from challenging Mirza Ghulam Ahmad or any friend or follower of his
to resort to any appeal to God (Mubahala) for the purpose of showing who is right and who wrong in any controversy. I will not challenge him or any friend or follower of his to make
any prophecy with reference to any person.

(6) I will to the utmost of my power induce any persons over whom I have influence to act
on their part in the manner in which I have promised to act in clauses 1,2,3,4,5′.

A six clause declaration?

A reference to this case in Seeratul Mahdi

“””This case registered against him for maintenance of Public Law keeping Arms and Ammunition under section 107 of criminal procedure code. The court of Mr dowie Deputy Commissioner Gurdaspur exonerated hazrat sb being bailable offence on 24 february 1899. The case was filed on the application of Molana Muhammad Hussain Batalvi and on the report of in-charge Police station Batala on 1st December 1898. Detail published in Al-Hakam March 1899.”””

Links and Related Essays

https://www.alislam.org/library/books/A-Hidden-Truth.pdf

https://ahmadiyyafactcheckblog.com/2016/12/30/mirza-ghulam-ahmad-lies-about-his-relationship-with-his-newspaper-al-hakam/

https://ahmadiyyafactcheckblog.com/2018/12/25/in-the-early-1890s-mirza-ghulam-ahmad-claimed-that-the-british-governments-control-of-india-would-end-in-8-years/

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Mirza Ghulam Ahmad vs. Molana Muhammad Hussain Batalvi and Muslims leaders in British-India in August of 1891

Intro
MGA avoided public debates, in fact, he only competed in 5 total debates in his 30- year career (1878–1908), and they were all written debates.  MGA stuttered and was thus incapable of articulating in any language.  In July 1891, MGA had a scheduled debate with Molana Muhammad Hussain Batalvi at Ludhiana and ran away from there on 31 July.

Summary of the scans in the below
( from Ishaat us sunnah Volume-14 , publication Year 1891, pages 2 onwards)

After being humiliated at Ludhiana, Mirza in his Ishtihar dated 1st August 1891, invited Batalvi to have a debate with him at Lahore. Batalvi replied that he is ready to debate with him at Lahore Peshawar or Qadian. However, MGA backed out yet again.

He then planned to try his luck at Dehli. He reached Dehli in October, 1891, where he published an Ishtihar challenging Molvi Syed Nazir Hussain for a debate he also put the name of Molvi Abdul Haq in his Ishtihar. MGA thought Molvi Nazir and Abdul Haq, due to their old age, would not come to face him and Molana Batalvi would also be far away from Dehli so he would get a “walk over.”

What happened was that Molvi Abdul Haq accepted the challenge and Molana Muhammad Hussain Batalvi (ever chasing MGA), also reached Delhi. Before the arrival of Molana Muhammad Hussain Batalvi, MGA had negotiated the debate on the following un reasonable terms and conditions:-

a.)Special permission of Deputy Commissioner should be issued in his name.
b.)A European officer should be ever present in the gathering.
c.) Debators should write with their hands and read over to public no munshi or Scribe is permitted.

But when Muhammad Hussain Batalvi reached Dehli, MGA went to Molana Abdul Haq and said your name was mentioned in the debate erroneously . He said I do not want to debate with you. Molvi Abdul Haq said he is ready to withdraw if you publish an ishtihar to this effect. So MGA issued an Ishtihar on 6th of October saying that he do not want to debate with Molvi Abdul haq because he had met him and found him a monk like person. He do not like to interact with govt officials hence he would debate only with Nazir Hussain who may keep Muhammad Hussain Batalvi with him for assistance during debate.

This trick, however failed when Molvi Abdul Haq replied in a published Ishtihar that he can arrange anything and invited Mirza sb to come to the Town Hall on 11th October for this debate otherwise he would be termed as liar. Mean time Muhammad Hussain Batalvi published Ishtihar inviting MGA to have debate with him if he loses then MGA may debate with Molvi Nazir Hussain. He requested him to come to the Chandni Mahal on 11th Oct, 1891 at 9.AM. The ishtihar further states that all terms and conditions laid by you are acceptable and we do not lay any terms and condition from our side. All arrangements have been finalized with the expenditures of hand sum amount.

MGA replied that he hates to debate with Molvi Muhammad Hussain and would have it with Molvi Nazir Hussain only. This refusal was accepted by Molvi Nazir Hussain and MGA was informed that his challenge to Debate with Molvi Nazir Hussain, has been accepted and he must come to Chandni Mahal on 11th Oct. However MGA breached this agreement on the pretext of law and order situation and wrote a letter to defer this debate till Ghulam Qadir would inform Deputy Commissioner.

On 5th October, Molvi Nazir Hussain wrote to MGA to come to his house and talk to him directly to remove his apprehensions, still MGA refused and said there should be a European officer in the debate. After that 14 letters were sent to MGA for debate from Ulema of Dehli inviting MGA, but he refused them all.

One of them was Molvi Abdul Majeed who invited MGA and offered a reward money of Rs 1000/-in case MGA prove his claims.  Molvi Rahim Bakhsh invited MGA, Molvi Mujaddid Ali Khan too invited MGA for debate on 10th Oct at Masjid Fatehpuri , Molvi Abdul Hamid invited MGA to come to the roof top of his house and he would be at his roof top, there would be Bazar between two and no risk of life would be there, but MGA did not agree and dared not to come out of his heavily guarded house.

MGA failure to debate at Chandni Mahal brought great humiliations to him. So he thought of washing of this defamation. He brought another Ishtihar dated 17 Oct 1891 wherein he used abusive language against Molvi Nazir Hussain and challenged to declare him liar in his claims and in his arguments under oath in open before general public. Molvi Nazir Hussain went to Jamia Masjid Dehli with general public and sent message to Mirza sb that he is ready to give such statement under oath now come to us in Jamia Masjid and state your claims and arguments before us.

This message was given to MGA through Nawab Saeeduddin Khan of Loharo, Molvi Abdul Majid and Mir Basharat Hussain Kotwal City.  Nevertheless, MGA refused again.

After prayer Molvi Abdul Majid, Nawab Saeeduddin Khan and Syed Bashir Hussain Inspector Police went to MGA and asked him to give them in writing that he would repent if Molvi Nazir Hussain rejects his claims and arguments on oath. MGA got puzzled on this demand and remained silent. However, his deputy Mullahs stood up and said we would repent after one month subject to the condition that Molvi Nazir Hussain would not fall ill or suffer from fever and headache during this period.

Subsequently, few questions were asked from Mirza sb through the City Superintendent Sahab Bahdur, as under:

City Superintendent: why Do you not cut short your arguments and agree to give a written statement.

MGA and his team:- we want to talk on the life and death issue of Jesus Pbuh and nothing else.
Molvi Abdul Majid :-We want to settle this issue including all of your claims. Do you have a proof to your claim of Messiah ship.

MGA and his team : same answer.

City Superintendent:– Addressing to Mirza sb, Are you Messiah? If yes what is the proof? Suppose Jesus has died then why should you be considered a Messiah give us a proof?

MGA :-Remains silent.

Khwaja Muhammad Yusuf from MGA side: addressing to Molvi Sahib , Hazrat if someone wants to be muslim why do do you not allow him to be?

Molvi sb: Yes if he repents he is our brother!
Khwaja sb: I can bring his written repentance just now. He would write it down that whatever he wrote against Quraan and Hadis is rejected and he is a muslim.

MGA wrote repentance but in the same language as that of he published in his Ishtihar of 12 October.

Molvi sb. He should write that he seeks repentance from Allah for whatever anti Islam he wrote in Tozihula maram, Fathe Islam and Izala auham.

After few more meaningless exchanges between the parties, the City Superintendent Sahab Bahadur announces to end the proceeding and MGA and his deputy mullahs returned under police escort.

Scans

 

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“Nikama Nabi” or “The Useless Prophet” by Babu Ghulam Mustafa Sb son of Syed Muhammad Hussain Batalvi

Intro
A Pamphlet having shown 43 claims (titles) of Mirza qadyani and poetry by Ahle hadith ulema by the Title ‘nakama nabi” or “The Useless Prophet” (in english) Mirza Qadyani and his 43 titles claimed .(printed in 1937 by ) Babu Ghulam Mustafa Sb son of the famous Syed Muhammad Hussain Batalvi.

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The Pamphlet
Nikama-Nabi by

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Batalvi’s children were brought to Qadian by force

Intro
Syed Muhammad Hussain Batalvi was a great friend of MGA and then later became a major enemy.  However, after MGA died, Batalvi seemed to have buried the hatchet, he was allowed to write an article in the ROR in 1910.  Lahori-Ahmadis sources tell us that it was Dr. Mirza Yacub Bag who found 1 son of Batalvi and brought him to Qadian for free food and shelter (See Mujadid e Azim, online abridged version, see page 798).  We have conflicting stories however, the Qadiani’s tell us that Batalvi sent his children, whereas lahori-Ahmadi sources tell otherwise.

By 2010
Ahmadiyya leadership has kept in contact with some grandson’s of Batalvi and seem to have bribed them into accepting Ahmadiyya.  They claim to be the off spring of Shaikh Saeed Ahmad, who was a son of Batalvi.

The reference  

page 368 footnote

“Muhammad Husain had two wives and seven sons and three daughters. He himself says that they had all turned out to be thoroughly wicked and irreligious. They severed all connection with their father and some of them even conspired to kill him (Isha‘atus Sunnah, Vol. 22 No. 8, pp. 225, 226). In 1910 Muhammad Husain complained of his children’s wickedness to the Editor of Al-Hakam Qadian, who advised him to send the two younger ones to the Qadian school. He accepted this advice and sent them to Qadian.

When his friends came to know of it he had to write in defence in the Ahl-e- Hadith, Amritsar, dated 25-2-1910 that the boys were well looked after and that their religious beliefs were not being interfered with. But the enemies of MGA could not bear it, so they pressed Muhammad Husain to get his sons out of Qadian. At last he yielded and sent them to Rupar where they drifted into ways of profligacy. On December 1, 1912, the two boys were brought to the Anjuman Ahmadiyya, Lucknow, in a miserable state. There was a complaint and the matter came to the notice of the police and the court. The Ahmadis of Lucknow tried to wean them from their wicked way of life but with no success.

Muhammad Husain died a miserable death in the beginning of 1920 at Batala. (See Batalvi ka Anjam by Mir Qasim Ali, 1931) ” (Also see Dard).

Batalvi’s article in the ROR
49/480 of the pdf or see page 46 thru 78.

http://www.aaiil.org/text/articles/revi … sh1910.pdf

Batalvi’s children became Ahmadi’s and then left Ahmadiyya, per Ahmadiyya sources only
See Tadhkirah, 2009 online edition, pages 949-950

Note by Hadrat Maulana Jalal-ud-Din Shamsra: Hadrat Amirul- Mo’minin Khalifatul Masih IIaba says: I believe that one of the interpretations is the following. Two sons of Maulavi Muhammad
Husain Batalvi came to Qadian, studied in the seminary school, and took a pledge of my allegiance. Later, they showed some weakness, but it was a moral problem, not a problem of religious belief…. Thus the prophecy of the Promised Messiahas was fulfilled in my person and also fulfilled was the dream that I saw about the wrestling match which had informed me that ultimately Maulavi Muhammad Husain would join us.
[al-Fadl, vol. 32, no. 110, May 12, 1944 p. 2]

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Muhammad Hussain Batalvi gave Mirza Ghulam Ahmad a glowing review in 1884

Intro
Batalvi and MGA were close friends up to 1891, they were both the same age and had shared some of the same teachers, further, MGA’s father knew Batalvi’s father and etc etc etc.  In 1884, A fatwa of Kufr landed on MGA’s head from many Muslims in India, this was in response to MGA’s Braheen-e-Ahmadiyya Vol. 4 which was published in the early summer of 1884.  MGA had went the Sir Syed-route and denied all of the miracles of Esa (As), however MGA was a a Ahle-Hadith (aka Wahabbi) affiliated person, in fact, his friend Noorudin was also Ahle-Hadith, as was his future wife, Nusrat Jehan and her father and Batalvi, who helped MGA arrange this marriage.

The quotes
See Upal(2017), page 125 and onward

“””In our opinion, it is in this time and in the present circumstances, a book the like of which has not been written up to this time in Islam, and nothing can be said about the future; Allah may bring about another affair after this. Its author, too, has proved himself firm in helping the cause of Islam, with his property, his person, his pen, his tongue and his personal religious experience, to such an extent that it is rarely seen among Muslims who have gone before. If someone thinks that my words are Asian exaggeration then show me at least one such book that confronts opponents of Islam especially the Arya Samaj with such gusto and enthusiasm. And point out such supporters of Islam who have taken upon themselves to help the cause of Islam with their property, their person, their treasure, their pen, and their tongue. And who has successfully challenged, with all his manly courage, opponents of Islam and deniers of revelation that if they doubt divine revelation to visit him and experience, observe and taste it. (Batalavi, 1884: 169-170).”””

“””Perhaps some of our critics will place me in the same category as the author of Braheen-e-Ahmadiyya and slap the fatwa of kufr on me as well. They may say that I have raised the author of Braheen to the level of prophet Muhammad and I have declared his revelations to be innocent similar to the revelations of the Prophet but I am not afraid of their fatwa of kufr… (Batalavi, 1884: 284)”””

:”””What does he [Mirza Ghulam Ahmad] conclude from his revelations and miracles? Does he use them to prove his prophethood or the prophethood of Muhammad? What religion does he invite people (including many top padres, pundits, Brahmo Arya rajas, and sardars of other religions) with such bravery and boldness? Is it the Islamic religion or Ahmadi religion or Mirzai religion? Unless you are a person whose heart has been darkened with prejudice, these arguments and reasoning would have convinced you that he absolutely makes no claim whatsoever to his own prophethood [emphasis in the original]. The true purpose of all of each and every one of his claims is the proof of prophethood of Muhammad. (Batalavi, 1884: 278-279).

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Mirza Ghulam Ahmad vs. Batalvi–1891-1892 era, MGA sent 10 Lanats on Batalvi

Intro
After claiming to be the Messiah in 1891, Batalvi turned on MGA and his team of ghost writers.  Batalvi began his beef with MGA which lasted til MGA died.  MGA even made predictions that Batalvi would eventually join Ahmadiyya and etc, however, like all of MGA’s predictions, those also failed.

A summary of this situation, written by a friend

MIRZA’S FAILED PROPHESY AND 10 CURSES TO MOLANA MUHAMMAD HUSSAIN BATALVI

In his book Aina Kamalat e Islam at page 601-604, Mirza Ghulam Qadiyani writes that Molana Muhammad Hussain Batalvi always criticise me and says i am an uneducated man , incompetent in Arabic language knowledge. He also says that Molvi Nooruddin is only a Hakim and Molvi Ahsan Amrohi is only a munshi. (Clerk). So he Mirza challenged Batalvi to have a contest of writing tafsir of 80 verses from Quraan and writing poetry (Naat). Few months ago the date of which i don,t remember, I saw an article by Muhammad Hussain Batalvi wherein Batalvi calls me dajjal, liar and dishonest. Beside this he says I am ignorant of religious knowledge. He insulted me like this repeatedly.

Then I cried before Allah swt for help, after this prayer I received Ilham “UDOONI ASTAJIB LAKUM” meaning pray to Me I will accept . So i prayed for victory against Batalvi, my heart got cleared I understood that my prayers have been answered. The Ilham “ INNI MAHEENUN MAN ARAD AHANTIKA
(I will humiliate those who intend to humiliate you) seems to have materialised. For this contest i prayed before Allah to destroy the liar. I have prayed for the contest fixing a time period of 40 days.

Now if i lose and my prayers are not answered then non acceptance of my prayer will prove my ilham as lie. I may be treated as liar and shall be prepared to accept any punishment. If Batalvi loses the contest his ignorance and humiliation shall be revealed to the world. But if he runs away from the contest he would receive 10 curses from Allah swt. After writing this MGQ writes words “Laanat” 10 times in his book.

Ahmadi’s propagated this 40 days prayer of Mirza far and wide at that time. Every follower of Mirza was anxiously waiting for a heavenly calamity or accident to fall upon Molana Muhammad Hussain Batalvi days in and days out. As the time goes by without any such news many were of the opinion that Batalvi could fall prey to such a mishap at the eleventh hour.
Finally the 40 days time line passed but to the disappointment of qadiyanis nothing happened to Batalvi. Ahmadi’s felt very sad to know that neither Mirza,s Ilham proved true nor his prayers were answered .

After this Batalvi wrote in his Magazine IShaatussunnah :

“Dear readers it is 30th April 1892 today , three days have passed after the expiry of 40 days time line. I am flourishing and am better than Mirza in health, wealth and in children. May be Mirza would justify his failed prophesy by telling his Mureeds that It was meant a metaphoric AZAB would fall on me on qayamah or he could say look Batalvi felt great distress during fasting or see Batalvi ,s son has suffered from cold and cough and in this way my prophesy has fulfilled with extreme grace.””

The scans


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Mirza Ghulam Ahmad’s debate with Batalvi (summer of 1891) was stopped by the British govt on MGA’s behalf

Intro
MGA was always favored by the British government, in fact, he was always given a chair when he went to court, whereas all other indians were forced to stand, moreover, the white people never even considered Indians as humans, since in terms of trains, white people never traveled in the same car as Indians.  Nonetheless, I have produced in the reference in the below wherein Dr. Basharat Ahmad explains how the British govt. intervened and kicked Batalvi out of Ludhiana and hence ended his debate with MGA.  Further, it is interesting to note that MGA barely had 5 debates in his entire career, this was one the earliest, and it was never a fair debate, since the British police were on the scene, protecting MGA and his team.  Further, MGA and his team would have been killed if it wasnt for the British govt.  This kept happening over and over again…read this entry about MGA in 1904 and a riot.

A summary of this quotation

The collaboration and cooperation between British colonial empire and Mirza Ghulam Ahmad Qadiyani has not been a secret issue. Mirza, in his book, himself states that he was planted by Britishers.

However, Ahmadi mullah either don,t accept this or do interpret this differently to creat polarisation so that the lies remain hidden from the eyes of simple ahmadi fellows.

Dr. Bashaarat Ahmad a Lahori Qadiayni, while describing the 13 days long debate between MGAQ and Molana Muhammad Hussain Batalvi, held on 20 July, 1891 at Ludhiana, states that there developed a situation of Law and Order in Ludhiana after the debate. The British govt ordered Molana Muhammad Hussain Batalvi and his fellow Ulema to leave the city of Ludhiana immediately. British Deputy Commissioner deputed one deputy and In charge Police Station Ludhiana to execute the orders who physically expelled Molana and his friends from Ludhiana.

On the contrary No such orders were issued against Mirza Qadiyani. Mirza made some correspondence with Britishers, but, perhaps for the fear of opponents, he moved to Amritsar at his own. Dr.Basharat writes that In Amritsar Mirza Qadiani received a letter from Deputy Commissioner Ludhiana that the expel orders were for Molana Muhammad Hussain Batalvi, not for you. You may stay at Ludhiana. Author has reproduced letter as under:-

From the court of W Chevys
Deputy Commissioner Ludhiana,

To Mirza Ghulam Ahmad Raees e Qadiyani sb Salamat,

Your letter dated yesterday was perused and heard and in response it is mentioned that subject to law, you have got the same rights available to stay at Ludhiana, as are available to other law abiding subjects of British Government.

Signature Sahib Deputy Commissioner Bahadur,
Dated 06 August 1891.
Molana Muhammad Hussain filed appeals for this discrimination at Lahore but no body heard him.

The scans

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