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Kashif activates the A-Team trolls and takes the Bullying of Cynthia D Ritchie to the next Level! No More Love for Cynthia D Ritchie from Ahmadis

Intro
Ahmadi’s have been harassing people since 1879, as MGA published the first volume of his Braheen series.  Kashif Chaudhry is the number 1 Ahmadi troll for the past 4-5 years.

The story

Cynthia D Ritchie is popular on social media for portraying Pakistan’s soft image. While many admire the fact that a foreigner—a woman at that too– cycles freely in an otherwise conservative society, there are others who have taken exception to her hard-hitting tweets at ‘pseudo-liberals’ and those who mock her.

Cynthia took to Twitter and slammed Yasir Latif Hamdani, a lawyer who wrote an opinion piece in The Daily Times against her. In his piece, Hamdani referred to Cynthia as a ‘shady operative’ who arrived in Pakistan and declared herself as resident expert on Islam by making a negative statement against Ahmadis.

The piece got Cynthia’s attention (not in a good way) and she took to task Hamdani (understandably) but also Raza Rumi, editor of The Daily Times.

Cynthia D. Ritchie

@CynthiaDRitchie

I am now looking to hire an attorney for a defamation suit against @theRealYLH.

Hamdani, your lies will be your undoing. If you think I’m going to sit by while you & Daily Times et alia, spit venom, you’ve got another thing coming. CC: @StateDept @shehryar_taseer @Razarumi

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There were some who took her threat lightly, prompting her to tweet this.

The controversy grabbed eyeballs on micro-blogging site Twitter with many siding with Cynthia and spawning the hashtag #ISupportCynthia. Cynthia’s name was subsequently removed from the opinion piece but she was still infuriated.

ST

@shobz

Qayamat ki Nishani: When two master trolls are unable to turn people against @CynthiaDRitchie because she has a lot of goodwill. PS, trend is actually doing much better.

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Engr.Saad Kaleem🇵🇰@ZarbeKaleemi

I strongly condemn the conspiracies on social media against @CynthiaDRitchie
Her contributions for highlighting positive & soft image of Pakistan are immensly appriciable

Cynthia!We are indebted to u,keep doing ur bit for peace&Pakistan
Stay strong & committed

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Waseem Khan@aqu_a_rius

A planned game is started against. @CynthiaDRitchie

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Mudasar Ch™🇵🇰@Mudasser_Pk

Cynthia are representing Pak 🇵🇰 positive image to the world.
Who recommended to world to visit Pak.
He is realized after being hospitalized by Pakistanis that there people are peaceful and loveable careable .
Thank You so much more.
God bless@CynthiaDRitchie

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Cynthia D. Ritchie

@CynthiaDRitchie

I expect more from the owners of this paper. They know how to remedy the situation.

Otherwise I am preparing for action, including the writer, Hamdani.

Mawish Moulvi@mawish_m

@CynthiaDRitchie your name has been removed.

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In between the Twitter jibes and ‘You’ve messed with the wrong bi**h shots, Cynthia continued to portray a positive side of Pakistan.

Cynthia D. Ritchie

@CynthiaDRitchie

❤️🇵🇰

MOON KHAN 🇵🇰@moonkhanpaki

The Kalash region is an amazing sight-seeing place for the tourists. Visit the place during their festivities and you, like Cynthia, will fall in love with it too. She always supports us as #WeSupportCynthia thank you madam @CynthiaDRitchie @peaceforchange

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She ended up abusing Raza Rumi as well in a tweet (which she has now deleted).

“F**k you Raza Rumi, you t**t,” she wrote in a tweet and all bets were off.

Here’s why she did it though.

Yes, part of the irony is that I’d apologized to Rumi a day or two before, for sharing a picture of him with @theRealYLH & KashifMD (YLH & Kashif both cyber bullies). And then I find out he edits the heinous article about me, written by YLH who is no Pakistani Patriot. Upsetting. https://t.co/IsT87fVCh1

— Cynthia D. Ritchie (@CynthiaDRitchie) January 1, 2019

Cynthia D. Ritchie

@CynthiaDRitchie

2/ me and others for months. I apologized to Raza, because I did not intend to show him (I don’t know him) as a cyberbully. My intent was to show YLH and Kashif are friends; & they both gang up on people to try and push their narratives. Both YLH & Kashif have shown themselves…

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Cynthia D. Ritchie

@CynthiaDRitchie

2/ me and others for months. I apologized to Raza, because I did not intend to show him (I don’t know him) as a cyberbully. My intent was to show YLH and Kashif are friends; & they both gang up on people to try and push their narratives. Both YLH & Kashif have shown themselves…

Cynthia D. Ritchie

@CynthiaDRitchie

3/ to be vile creatures who write libelous materials, attempting to defame character, with lies.

So it hurt me, when I learned @Razarumi edited the write-up from YLH, defaming me. I received the original copy, with my name “shady operative” in it. And it was impression Raza…

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She even gave props to the people who were instrumental in trending #WeSupportCynthia

Cynthia D. Ritchie

@CynthiaDRitchie

Thank you all, including @IK_Force and @foto_masters – it’s a lovely surprise to see trending in Pakistan. Big hugs. And Happy New year!

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The apology

A couple of hours later, Cynthia realized she had made a mistake by abusing Raza Rumi and in a mature way, apologized to him in a tweet.

Cynthia D. Ritchie

@CynthiaDRitchie

Agreed. Thank you. Sometimes my patience runs out. No excuse however, and apologies to @Razarumi for the abuse.

We should each do our best to set the example of civil discourse and respect for differences of opinion.

Peace. https://twitter.com/AtifMatinansari/status/1080154391313829888 

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Raza Rumi, who had demonstrated maturity by being silent all the time, finally responded to calm the Twitter storm. He appreciated Cynthia’s offer to reconcile over a cup of coffee sometime and in turn, informed Twitterati about his first day of the new year.

Raza Ahmad Rumi

@Razarumi

Dear @CynthiaDRitchie: thanks. V gracious. I didn’t respond earlier because when we are angry we tend to say things which we might regret. I appreciate your concerns and have asked colleagues to be more vigilant. Yes, coffee is appreciated. On me.

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Raza Ahmad Rumi

@Razarumi

My first day of 2019 was not that joyful. Full of online abuse and hate. But I thank all the friends and well-wishers who defended me & gave me strength. I don’t wish to prolong Twitter duels. Just want a peaceful evening in real time with friends I haven’t seen in years.

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Enters the idiot

Farhan Virk, a social media celebrity (of sorts) in Pakistan known for operating various fake accounts, trolling the PTI’s opponents and harbouring jingoistic opinions, saw fit to involve himself in the dispute. He claimed that Cynthia had no right to abuse Raza Rumi as he had gotten shot for his views against the Taliban.

Not only that, he recorded a ridiculous video in which he urged Pakistanis to dissociate themselves from Cynthia as ‘We (Pakistanis) despite our difference of opinion with each other, should not allow a foreigner to abuse one of us.”

Hain? Why, Virk, why?

Cynthia responds to the troll by telling him to make a sandwich

Cynthia D. Ritchie

@CynthiaDRitchie

Virk beta, my apology to Raza came for using language I normally don’t and shouldn’t use.

You and your ‘buddy’ had nothing to do with it, so please, go make a sandwich. Your blood sugar is low.

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She proceeded to say she didn’t even know who Virk was. Ouch.

Cynthia D. Ritchie

@CynthiaDRitchie

Frankly, I don’t know who Virk is. I didn’t know there was a ‘spat’. I just told him to “make a sandwich”, since he was poking his nose into my affairs (which stemmed from bad editing & YLH slandering me in @Dailytimes).

Just realized I am sounding more Pakistani every day. 😃

Maleeha Hashmey@MaleehaHashmey

Who are you siding with, in Cynthia VS Virk Twitter Spat?

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The troll apologizes

It was then that Farhan Virk came across ‘thousands of documentaries’ that Cynthia had done to highlight and promote the positive side of Pakistan and apologized to her in a tweet. He took his words back and deleted all his tweets against her. Sigh.

Dr Farhan K Virk@FarhanKVirk

I have made quite a research on your work inside Pak @CynthiaDRitchie I have noticed that you have made thousands of documentaries and millions of UK and US citizens have watched them. I am sorry. I will explain my apology in a vlog today 🙏🙏 I never knew you contributed so much

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So, that was all. And Cynthia went back to celebrating the new year.

Cynthia D. Ritchie

@CynthiaDRitchie

Yes, – let’s start this new year right.

No one likes to be falsely/wrongly accused of anything, be it individual or state level, by intent or mistake. Prefer conversation over conflict any day.

Peace to you and yours.

Raza Ahmad Rumi

@Razarumi

Thanks @CynthiaDRitchie#HappyNewYear2019 https://twitter.com/CynthiaDRitchie/status/1080155555044511746 

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Cynthia D. Ritchie

@CynthiaDRitchie

Good morning everyone. And thank you, Ali. We’re all doing our bit to start the new year off right.

Pakistan Zindabad! ❤️🇵🇰

Ali Malik@AliHasnainMalik
Replying to @CynthiaDRitchie

Cynthia, you’re wasting your time on a ateention seeker. Ignore him and he will commit suicide lol. You’re a hero of Pakistan. God bless you and attached friendly reminder for him and everyone

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Cynthia D. Ritchie

@CynthiaDRitchie

Picture One: my face when I see fake accounts run by desperate, mentally diseased trolls.

Picture Two: how I feel after receiving so much love from Pakistan. ❤️🇵🇰

Let’s move on and make it a great 2019 & focus on positive stories in the country!

Pakistan Zindabad!

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The only good thing to come out of the Twitter spat—hilarious tweets

Stray observations—why does Cynthia love to tag the State Department in her every tweet? Why did she say ‘You all are fuc***g with the wrong b**ch?

Well, as usual, Twitter doesn’t let such things slide. And it didn’t.

Manal Faheem Khan@ManalFaheemKhan

KFC: Ma’am we are out of diet 7up so we’re sending you regular 7up instead. Okay?

Me: You all are fucking with the wrong bitch.

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Imtiaz Haidery@imhaidery

I am fucking with the wrong bitch 😦

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Maham Ali@Mahamali05

Cynthia walks into a store and asks for Coke. The shopkeeper tells her they don’t have coke – only pepsi.

Cynthia: YOU ALL ARE FUCKING WITH THE WRONG BITCH

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لبٹارڈ@khwamkhwah

The Uber Driver: Madam, please put the exact pin location.

Me: you all are fucking with the wrong bitch.

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Ali Warsi@thealiwarsi

“Yeh aansu ponchh dou Pushpa. I hate tears” ~ Rajesh Khanna

“Paro meri maa mer gaee” ~ Dilip Kumar

“I love you, K-k-k-kiran” ~ Shah Rukh Khan

“You all are fucking with the wrong bitch” ~ Cynthia D Ritchie

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Saleem@memzarma

It is 1st day of 2019 & it already give us this powerful line.

“You all are fucking with the wrong bitch” ~ Cynthia D Bitchie

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Naila Inayat

@nailainayat

Raza Rumi: Happy New Year everyone
Cynthia: You’re fucking with the wrong bitch

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The saga seems to be over. For now. Toning it down a notch, we’d like to end with the question–did they really mess with the wrong woman, though?

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https://ahmadiyyafactcheckblog.com/2019/01/05/the-statement-of-dr-clarke-on-solemn-affirmation-on-12th-august-1897-vs-mirza-ghulam-ahmad/

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https://ahmadiyyafactcheckblog.com/2017/07/08/even-in-1907-mirza-ghulam-ahmad-was-still-lusting-for-his-niece-muhammadi-begum/

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Kashif’s Twitter Meltdown. American Journalist Cynthia D. Ritchie harassed and called “ISI Whore” after she refuses to let Ahmadiyya hijack her Reputation as a respected Journalist and retweet the fake prosecution stories of the Ahamdiyya sect!

Intro
Ahmadi’s are vicious and ruthless.  Especially the immigrants, the Ahmadi’s born in the West normally don’t care about religion in general.  Ahmadi’s are willing to call anyone a terrorist if they don’t support the Ahmadiyya cause.  They have fought the entire Muslim community in the USA, Canada, Germany and the Uk and many other countries.  Recently, they had a twitter beef with a respected journalist, Cynthia Ritchie.  Cynthia loves Pakistan and Pakstani people….she spent the night at Kashif’s house, has been very friendly with Ahmadi’s.  However, recently Ahmadi’s have turned on her since she wasn’t in full agreement over the false Ahmadiyya persecution narrative.

Related Essays
https://ahmadiyyafactcheckblog.com/2017/04/07/the-mirza-family-loved-the-persecution-they-call-is-free-press/

https://ahmadiyyafactcheckblog.com/2017/07/03/abdul-sami-zafar-tells-the-inside-story-on-the-may-29th-1974-rabwah-train-attacks/

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A recent tweet by Cynthia
2 of your members R becoming some of the worst examples of your creed: “Love For All, Hatred For None”; these members, included, R bigots. Comparing me 2 the Taliban because I won’t RT their tweets & don’t agree 100% w/their thinking.

The screenshots

Cynthia’s twitter account

A video in Urdu explaining this whole situation

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Kashif Chaudhry is at it again, he continues to accuse Muslims in America of Takfir and calls them terrorists



Intro

I have written about this fanatic before.  He was radicalized by Mirza Tahir Ahmad in the 80’s, further, his father is an Ahmadi-mullah, and many of his uncles have been jailed for breaking the law in Pakistan, in terms of Ord-XX and other behaviors of fanatical Ahmadis like purposely distributing Ahmadi books, when they know its against the law in Pakistan.

Professor Jonathan AC Brown’s recent post
On 11-25-17 he writes:

“””For those of you interested, what I find totally beyond the pale with Ahmadi PR operators like Kashif Chaudry is that they call Muslims takfiris for doing no more that following the consensus position of all Sunni and Shiah scholars. And we all know what it means when you’re called a takfiri in the West: surveillance and perhaps even referral to some CVE/Prevent program. So if you want to avoid this accusation, you have to go against the agreed-upon position of ALL Muslim scholars. How is this an honest attempt at dialogue? It’s bullying of the worst kind, denigrating the highest form of discourse by intimidating it with the most clumsy and thoughtless forces within reach.”””

“””I blocked Kashif Chaudhry because he repeatedly threatened to “out” people as “extremists” for not accepting Ahmadis as Muslims and also threatened to publish photos of them with other people to drag those people into his net of defamation as well. I could tell he was a lowlife because I have a good sleeze-dar (when someone keeps trying to meet you for coffee despite the fact that they are calling you terrible names, it’s not a good sign). I hope he improves his conduct and can rejoin polite society.”””

“””My response to Kashif Chaudry’s latest Ahmadi doorstepping (Will you condemn xyz Muslims for exercising their Constitutionally protected freedom of religion?!): Kashif, stop playing dumb. As I’ve said numerous times, if you and other Ahmadis go around calling people ‘Takfiris’ for just following what is the CONSENSUS Of Sunni and Shiah ulama, saying that Sunni extremism is the cause of Islamophobia, going on Fox News with ROBERT SPENCER (!) to say how mosques need to be surveiled (Yes, I saw that Ahmadi rep doing that), in short, using the climate of Islamophia to try to bully Muslims into accepting Ahmadis, you will continue to get the same reaction: total rejection. The merits of your case aside, your conduct is nauseating. I have never seen a Shiah scholar of any repute or any Shiah organization throw Sunnis under the bus the way you and other Ahmadi reps do regularly. If you want to be Muslim, take the hits like the rest of us and stop throwing law-abiding Muslims under the bus to advance your own mainstreaming-in-America agenda. I won’t have a dialogue with you because you are not interested in discussion. You’re interested in getting the hegemonic, Islamophobic, security-state public space to threaten Muslims into accepting Ahmadis. Do it on your own time, not mine.”””

The Kashif Chaudhry vs. Professor Johnathan brown beef continues

Intro
Ahmadis hate Muslims, since 1889.  They have been attacking all Muslims within their reach. Ahmadis are vicious animals and their mullahs have brainwashed them to be difficult and evil.
Furthermore, Ahmadis go around social media harrassing Muslims and making silly parallels.  

Just today….Kashif has went after Professor Johnathan AC Brown once again and his comments on Ahmadis and etc.  Please check out Professor Johnathan Browns post here: https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=10155668374789850&set=a.10151199848444850.479272.507354849&type=3&theater&comment_id=10155670042514850&notif_t=like&notif_id=1503193884302088

My previous essays on this topic
https://ahmadiyyafactcheckblog.wordpress.com/2017/06/12/professor-johnathan-ac-brown-vs-qasim-rashid-june-2017/

https://ahmadiyyafactcheckblog.wordpress.com/2017/03/14/professor-johnathan-ac-brown-comments-on-ahmadiyya/

https://ahmadiyyafactcheckblog.wordpress.com/2017/08/06/ahmadi-trolls-are-offended-by-me-and-my-blog/

Ahmadis lie about their Messiahs Takfir
So the issue here is that most Ahmadis have never studied the books of MGA properly, nor are they capable of critical thinking.  This is exactly the case with Kashif and his boyfriend, Qasim Rashid.  These people just keep yelling their Ahmadi arguments and never research ahmadiyya critically, further, they have no idea what MGA and his sons wrote on Takfir from 1906 to 1924.

See these essays also: 
https://ahmadiyyafactcheckblog.wordpress.com/2017/07/13/mirza-bashir-ahmad-did-takfir-on-all-muslims-and-lahori-ahmadis-1916/

https://ahmadiyyafactcheckblog.wordpress.com/2017/03/03/qasim-rashid-keeps-lying-about-his-messiahs-takfir/

https://ahmadiyyafactcheckblog.wordpress.com/2016/12/13/ahmadis-consider-all-muslims-as-terrorists-and-kafirs/

https://ahmadiyyafactcheckblog.wordpress.com/2016/11/05/mga-calls-all-muslims-as-mushriks-aka-kafirs-1907/

 

Kashif Chaudhry admits to having a “troll” account, back in 2010


Intro

Most Ahmadis are robots.  They never use their own brains and double check the data that their Mullahs feed them.    They simply repeat the “few” arguments that they have memorized and don’t care if anyone has a response or not.  They then move on to the next group of people who are unaware of Ahmadiyya and restart their marketing.

In this particular situation, Kashif Chaudhry is one of the “super-brainwashed” Ahmadis, and he has a death-wish.  Ironically, the guy has never gotten into any fist-fights in his life, nor has he ever worked a manual labor job for any extended duration, he is a soft-guy and would probably run if he ever had to fight.  In fact, most Ahmadi-men are like this, their bodies and soft and incapable of hard-work or any sports that would require muscle. Instead, they lived the life of “rabwah” where most young men are unemployed and simply hang out all day with nothing to do, other then surf the internet at those “Internet-cafe’s”.  And most of these rich-kids dont even pay for their education, in Kashif’s case, it is chanda-dollars that eventually pay for the education of the off-spring of Ahmadi mullahs.

Kashif was a troll.  He used the word psuedonym.  However, this is just the academic way to call yourself a troll-piece.  Kashif went around the internet looking for Muslims to engage, and I’m sure he is still using his “troll-account” as he harrasses countless of his country men.

Kashif will never double check Ahmadiyya
I have tried to talk to this clown.  Ahmadis don’t want dialogue, they want to cry persecution to the UN, NAFTA, NATO and everyone else who is willing to listen.  They don’t want an honest conversation??  Why???

Kashif Chaudhry disowns Rabwah times

Intro
Kashif is the infamous son of an Ahmadi-mullah who openly hates Pakistan.  He was running many videos on Rabwah times and even went so far as to try to make a Sunni Cleric say that Ahmadis are liable to death, which he didn’t.  Mubasher Shah simply said that in Pakistan, there are many crimes that people will get the death penalty for.  Nonetheless, recently he got in trouble with his Khalifa in terms of his attendance at an islamic conference in the UAE.  The back lash was overwhelming, the Khalifa seems to have ordered Kashif to disown Rabwah Times and to announce that they do not represent the Ahmadiyya Movement.

Here is the FB posting by Kashif
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Conclusions
It has been the modus operandi of the Ahmadiyya movement to always lie about who can officially comment on Ahmadi issues.  They have been doing for years and will continue to do it.

Kashif Chaudhry vs. Shaykh Hamza Yousaf

http://infoahmadiyya.com/sheikh-hamza-yusuf-and-the-ahmadis-in-the-wake-of-the-peace-in-muslim-societies-event/

In the wake of the recently held Forum for Promoting Peace in Muslim Societies Conference held in Abu Dhabi, a controversy has been initiated by a delegation of Ahmadis that were, according to themselves, invited to partake in the event as Muslims. The Ahmadi delegation consisted of, among others, no other than the famous Ahmadi apologist Kashif Chaudhary.

There were people from other religions present in the event as well. A Christian priest is very well visible on the picture to the left. A multi-religious event that seek to promote love and mercy across all faiths is of course commendable and also the need of the hours. This article is not written to criticize the Ahmadi participation on this event, but rather to draw the readers attention to another serious matter.

Hamza Yusuf has written a very famous article regarding the Ahmadis titled “Sticks and Drones May Break Our Bones, but Fitna Really Hurts Us”. The fitna he is referring to is the Ahmadiyya religion. The Sheikh clearly writes that Mirza Ghulam Ahmad is a false Prophet and that both him and his followers are outside the fold of Islam. This article led to fierce criticism by Kashif Chaudhary, who called Sheikh Hamza Yusuf an extremist on his own blog.

So it happened on the recent event held in Dubai that Sheikh Hamza Yusuf and Kashif Chaudhary stood face to face. Chaudhary recalls the meeting on his facebook-page:

 Had the honor of having a conversation with renowned Islamic scholar Shaikh Hamza Yusuf. He is clear in his stance against Takfir and invited the Ahmadi Muslims with open arms. It was heart-warming. This is the tolerance, peace and pluralism that the Forum for Promotion of Peace in Muslim Societies is trying to spread around the Muslim world. The simple and basic idea that we can disagree and yet break bread and work for the common good of our societies and wider communities.

I have always considered Shaikh Hamza Yusuf a great scholar. My disagreement with him was based on a statement he had made in the past. But I am glad I had the opportunity to clarify that small misunderstanding. I admire the Shaikh’s knowledge and humility and look forward to more partnerships with his good initiatives.

May all of us Muslims continue to work together, despite our theological differences, for the common good of ALL mankind. For this is the purpose of Islam. inshAllah! #PeaceMS2016

One of the past statements from the Sheikh that drew fierce criticism from Chaudhary was when he in one sentence in the article referred to Ahmadiyya as a fitna. Chaudhary was asked on his facebook-wall whether the Sheikh still hold the view that the Ahmadiyya is a fitna. To this, Chaudhary responded: “No. He considers us a Muslim Community. He has deleted that article from his website too”. He was right in one thing, the article was in fact unaccessible. This led many to believe that the Sheikh had deleted the article and changed his stance on the Ahmadiyya.

So I sent an e-mail to Sheikh Hamza Yusuf asking for a clarification. I just received an answer. I’m sharing the whole correspondence with you below:

Me: As salamu aleykum wa rahmatAllah

My name is ………., from ………… I’ve been listening to you for many years and by the grace of Allah swt I hope to have benefitted a lot from listening to you. I write to you with outmost respect and humbleness, as a student and a seeker. 
I hope you can help me sort this out, inshaAllah. 

My reason for writing is that for some years now I have been involved in very friendly inter-faith dialogue with the Ahmadiyya Community in ……, as well as with some Ahmadiyya acquaintances on the internet. 

One Ahmadiyya who is very active online is Kashif N. Chaudhary. It has come to my attention that you recently met him during the recent Forum for Promoting Peace in Muslim Societies Conference held in Abu Dhabi. Kashif N. Chaudhary is a dedicated Ahmadiyya-rights activist who works against oppression of the Ahmadiyya community (a dedication which is commendable) but he is also an apologist who is often seen on sosial media campaigning for the Ahmadiyya religion at the expense of traditional Islamic creed and making hateful remarks about those who dare to disagree with him on mere theological matters. 

Dear Shaykh, you have previously written an article about your view on the Ahmadis. The article called “Sticks and Stones May Break Our Bones, but Fitna Really Hurts Us” was an excellent article that many benefitted from. In this article, you clearly stated your opinion that Mirza Ghulam Ahmad is a false Prophet who is outside the fold of Islam and so are his followers.  Kashif N. Chaudhary reacted to your article by defaming you and calling you extremist on his blog. 

According to his facebook-page, he met you at the conference and you cleared a misunderstanding that was between you. I know that you know have deleted the article from you website, and Kashif has also deleted the pages from his blog in which he openly defames you. He now claims that you don’t consider Ahmadis to be outside the fold of Islam anymore. He told me that you have retracted a previous statement of yours in which you called the Ahmadiyya faith a fitna. I’ve attached two screenshots that will illustrate this further. 

As a seeker of knowledge with great respect for our esteemed Scholars, I’m seeking your advice to how I should view this. Is it such that Ahmadis are now Muslims again? Or is Kashif Chaudhary lying about you? Perhaps you two again have a misunderstanding to clear up? Or have I misunderstood everything here?

Kashif Chaudhary also claims that the Ahmadiyya delegation was invited to the conference as Muslim participants. Is it any truth in this? 

I apologize for the length of this mail. I hope you can take out som of your busy time to respond to this. 

Ma assalama. 

Sanadla.com Team (Sheikhs Official Website): 

Salam, We are looking into this matter, I pressed send too soon. Hopefully we can respond with a better response soon. The blog has not been deleted from the website, for some reason it is inaccessible on mobile browsers. Thank you for your patience!

Sandala Team

The article is now is now accessible again. There is no need to believe that Sheikh Hamza Yusuf has changed his stance. However, it remains a mystery why the article was taken down (if that was the case) because one article written by Kashif Chaudhary in his criticism of Sheikh, titled “Shaykh Hamza Yusuf, Zaytuna College and the Takfir of Ahmadi Muslims” was also taken down and is still unaccessible as I write (20.12.16). See screenshot below:


(All above screenshots were taken on the 19th of december 2016)

The article on Sandala.com is back online. However, a question remains, was this a coordinated step taken by Sheikh Hamza Yusuf and Kashif Chaudhary? Did they agree to take down these pages? What is the misunderstanding they clarified between each other according during the meeting, according to the statement of Kashif Chaudhary? Before we reach a final conclusion, let us wait for a further clarification as promised by the Sandala.com team.

Kashif Chaudary also claims that they were invited to this event as Muslims. A closer look at the event website reveals that close to anyone can register to participate in the event and that an invitation is not necessarily needed. Did the Ahmadis invite themselves? Or were they invited? And if they were invited, were they invited as Muslims? This will be the topic of my next article as I dig deeper.

Statistics showing Systematic Over-representation of Ahmadis in the bureaucracy of Pakistan by Charles H. Kennedy

Intro
Charles H. Kennedy did lots of research on Ahmadiyya from a neutral position.  He exposed Ahmadi’s as they planned the terrorist attacks of May 29th, 1974.  He wrote:  ‘Towards the Definition of a Muslim in Islamic State: The Case of the Ahmadiyya in Pakistan’.  Kennedy shows how Ahmadis were systematically over-represented in the Federal bureaucracy of Pakistan.  In the back of the book, Kennedy shows how Ahmadi’s had totally infiltrated government jobs by 1982 via official Pakistan census reports.  Furthermore, the Mirza family loves the persecution, they have always called it as free press.  Brush showed similar rates of over-representation back in 1955.  Ahmadiyya ideas were then pushed upon Africa, as the colonist looked to indoctrinate an entire generation of Africans to obey the British.

A QUOTE
“there is evidence that Ahmadis are over-represented in the civilian bureaucracy. An examination of Table 2 reveals that Ahmadis are over-represented in the bureaucracy by a factor of three to eight times their proportional population base.

An explanation of this data
Prior to the constitutional amendments in 1974, Ahmadis had systematically gained posts in high ranking position through corruption and nepotism within the Pakistani politics. Zafarullah Khan and Abdus Salam in a coordinated attempt systematically favored Ahmadis and brought them in high positions in order to bring Pakistan under the control of Ahmadis. Their share in official positions within the Pakistani bureaucracy was much higher than their share in the population of Pakistan. Zafarullah Khan was just one example. As Ahmadis have sworn to follow their leader in all matters of life, those Ahmadi officials were loyal towards their Khalifa leader and not towards the constitution of Pakistan or their fellow Pakistani citizens. Most notably Zafarullah Khan even refused to pray the death funeral of Quaid-e-Azam Baba-i-Qaum Muhammad Ali Jinnah, the founder of Pakistan, as Zafarullah Khan and his Ahmadiyya sect argued, that they did not consider Muhammad Ali Jinnah a Muslim, instead they considered him A Kafir, a Nonbeliever Kufar, as he had not followed the call of the Ahmaidyya founder Mirza Ghulam Ahmad Qadiani. That way Zafarullah Khan impressively demonstrated his loyality to his Ahmadi Khalifa leader above his loyality to the founder of the country he was supposed to serve. This was a monumental slap in the face of Muslims, as they had only recently joined forces and under huge sacrifices gained an independent state for the Muslims of the Indian Subcontinent. And now their own Foreign Minister demonstrated to the eyes of the world, that he didn’t consider the Founder of Pakistan Quaid-e-Azam Baba-i-Qaum Muhammad Ali Jinnah a Muslim and didn’t even deem him worthy to show the respect of his funeral prayer.

Christians and Hindus as of 1982 had a Population of about 13 times bigger than Ahmadis. But despite their bigger share in the Population, Christians and Hindus were considerably less likely to be found in the Federal bureaucracy of Pakistan. Ahmadis were twice as much more often to be found in a high ranking Position in the Federal bureaucracy of Pakistan than Hindus, despite Hindus being 13 Times more populous than Ahmadis in Pakistan.

Please note that this data was from 1982. And many didn’t declare their religion in the statistics. It is Obvious that the situation was even worse than the data above suggests and prior to the constitutional ammendments in the 50’s and 60’s, the situation must have been even worse than the 1982 data suggests.

The constitutional amendments main aim was to drive back this unnatural development and limit the Ahmadis possible influence on the Pakistani democracy to their fair share in the population of Pakistan, which is just a fair and democratic principle, especially for a country that was created as a homeland for Muslims and against totalitarian rule by an Absolute Monarch. Ahmadis work against both of these principles. They undermine the Muslim unity, impressively demonstarted by Zafarullah Khan at the time of the funeral of Pakistans founder and implement another Absolute Monarch, who they Call Khalifa and they want to follow.

In a democracy, the majority of people shall have the say and not a small minority who is just better organized and follows an Absolute dictator, they call “Khalifa” and systematically tries to undercut the political system by installing their loyal followers in positions of power within a state. Where that can lead, could be seen recently in Turkey, where the Gülen Sect tried to violently putsch their way to power in Turkey with the help of a few hundred loyalists in the Turkish Police and Army.

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Links and Related Essays

https://ahmadiyyafactcheckblog.com/2017/07/03/abdul-sami-zafar-tells-the-inside-story-on-the-may-29th-1974-rabwah-train-attacks/

http://files.qern.org/qarchives/schbooks/Charles-Kennedy-Paper.pdf

https://books.google.com/books/about/Pakistan_1995.html?id=9AVuAAAAMAAJ

https://ahmadiyyafactcheckblog.files.wordpress.com/2018/06/charles-kennedy-paper.pdf

https://ahmadiyyafactcheckblog.com/2017/07/17/lahori-ahmadis-also-held-high-level-political-jobs-in-british-india-and-later-pakistan/

https://ahmadiyyafactcheckblog.com/2018/09/06/can-atifrmian-be-trusted-by-the-pakistani-government-and-muslim-people/

https://ahmadiyyafactcheckblog.com/2017/11/04/mirza-tahir-ahmad-lied-about-ordinance-xx-and-his-exodus-from-pakistan/

https://ahmadiyyafactcheckblog.wordpress.com/2017/04/07/the-mirza-family-loved-the-persecution-they-call-is-free-press/

https://ahmadiyyafactcheckblog.com/?s=panama

https://ahmadiyyafactcheckblog.wordpress.com/2017/07/02/an-ahmadi-spills-the-beans-on-the-rabwah-train-attack/

https://ahmadiyyafactcheckblog.com/2018/07/07/kashifs-twitter-meltdown-american-journalist-cynthia-d-ritchie-harassed-and-called-isi-whore-after-she-refuses-to-let-ahmadiyya-hijack-her-reputation-as-a-respected-journalist-and-retweet-the/

https://ahmadiyyafactcheckblog.com/2017/02/17/ahmadiyya-in-pakistan-by-s-e-brush-1955/

https://ahmadiyyafactcheckblog.com/2018/09/20/professor-humphrey-j-fisher-and-j-spencer-trimingham-called-ahmadiyya-a-maritime-implantation-in-west-africa/

https://ahmadiyyafactcheckblog.com/?s=Gambia

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To Win Its War on Terror, #Pakistan Must Accept Ahmadis as Muslims—another silly argument by the Mirza family

Intro
Ahmadi’s on social media like Qasim Rashid and Kashif Chaudhry has been spreading this nonsense.  But its not their fault, they have been told to spread this nonsense by the Ahmadi Mullahs.  The Ahmadi mullah is always concerned about job security, hence, they continue to plan an exodus from Pakistan via asylum.  As we all know, the Mirza family loves persecution, they call it free press.  Ahmadi’s should have been declared non-Muslim in 1954, however, they chose not to, or the current Khalifa chose not to.  However, his sons were different, his sons, namely Mirza Nasir Ahmad purposely got Ahmadi’s declared as non-Muslim in 1974.  His brother, Mirza Tahir Ahmad went one step further and got Ord-XX passed, just so he could officially move out of Pakistan and move his headquarters.

The full essay wherein Ahmadi’s argue that terrorism will only end when Ahmadiyya persecution ends

https://thediplomat.com/2016/12/to-win-its-war-on-terror-pakistan-must-accept-ahmadis-as-muslims/

Copy and paste

To Win Its War on Terror, Pakistan Must Accept Ahmadis as Muslims

On Monday, a mob of more than 1,000 Muslims attacked a mosque belonging to the Ahmadiyya Muslim community in Chakwal, a district around 150 km from the capital Islamabad. The mob opened fire, hurled stones, and set parts of the building ablaze in an attempt to take over the mosque. The attack came on Eid Milad-un-Nabi, the Islamic festival to commemorate the birth of Prophet Muhammad, with the religiously motivated mob desecrating the mosque as a “tribute” to the Prophet.

The Ahmadiyya community is accused of heresy by orthodox Muslim clergy owing to allegations of divergence from conventional Islamic beliefs. This led to the excommunication of the community in 1974 through the Second Amendment to Pakistan’s Constitution. In 1984, the government of Pakistan’s Ordinance XX barred the community from preaching their beliefs or using Islamic titles in their literature, epithets, or”‘places of worship.” According to the ordinance, an Ahmadi could be imprisoned for up to three years for “posing as a Muslim.”

The Chakwal “place of worship,” not acknowledged as a mosque by orthodox Muslims or the Pakistani state, was targeted over claims that the Ahmadiyya community had “taken over a mosque” and transformed it into their own worship place.

Enjoying this article? Click here to subscribe for full access. Just $5 a month.Even so, property disputes are used as a pretext to target the Ahmadis, with allegations of blasphemy and apostasy escalating amidst celebrations of Eid Milad-un-Nabi. This is why the Ahmadiyya community had requested the local law enforcement agencies to provide security for the Chakwal mosque, anticipating aggression.

The Chakwal attack came a week after Prime Minister Nawaz Sharif decided to rename a physics center in the capital after Dr. Abdus Salam, the first Muslim Nobel laureate, whose achievements have been discarded by the state owing to his Ahmadi identity. A day after the “Professor Abdus Salam Center for Physics” was announced, Punjab’s Counter Terrorism Department (CTD) raided the Ahmadiyya headquarters, and detained four Ahmadis affiliated with publishing the community’s magazines.

Targeting Ahmadiyya literature, as a “counterterror” maneuver or clampdown against “hate speech,” is a regular occurrence. But after the recognition for Dr. Salam, the authorities possibly felt the need to appease Islamist hardliners, who eventually took matters into their hands in Chakwal.

As Pakistan battles jihadism on multiple fronts, the Ahmadiyya question remains central to the state’s counterterror efforts. This is because all efforts to recognize the community’s contributions for Pakistan, or to safeguard their rights as citizens, remain subordinated by the Constitution’s codification of the Ahmadiyya community’s excommunication. Not only does this give Islamists the license to target the Ahmadis at will, it reaffirms the Sunni Muslim supremacy in Pakistan, which in turn sidelines other religious communities, including various Islamic sects.

A couple of weeks ago Masroor Jhangvi, a leader of the banned anti-Shia jihadist group Sipah-e-Sahaba Pakistan (SSP), was elected to the Punjab parliament. Jhangvi and SSP vociferously call for the genocide of the Shia Muslims in Pakistan, and former Sipah-e-Sahaba parliamentarians have proposed bills to apostatize the Shias along the lines of the Ahmadiyya excommunication.

When the state succumbs to declaring one Islamic sect heretics over ideological differences, it inadvertently sets a chain reaction in motion, maintaining the status quo of the narrowest brand of Islam.

According to Article 18 of the UN Declaration of Human Rights, to which Pakistan is a signatory, “Everyone has the right to freedom of thought, conscience, and religion; this right includes freedom to change his religion or belief, and freedom, either alone or in community with others and in public or private, to manifest his religion or belief in teaching, practice, worship and observance.”

Pakistan denying the Ahmadis their right to self-identify as Muslims is a blatant breach of the UN stipulations, which has been condemned by global rights groups and other states.

The ostensibly unanimous view of Muslim clerics to exclude Ahmadis from Islam is often cited as the rationale for apostatizing the community, even by those sections that might call for their rights as individuals to be protected. Not only does this line of argument put fundamental human rights – including the right to self-identify – at the mercy of others’ opinion, it gives credence to Islamists’ verdicts on blasphemy and the glorification of jihadists. This also gives Islamist hardliners a say over the rights of other marginalized sections of the society, including women, members of the LGBTQI community, or freethinkers.

Takfir, the act of declaring an individual or a group outside the fold of Islam, is the founding principle of jihadism. This is why most of the victims of jihadist terror are Muslims who are deemed not Muslim enough. As long as the Pakistani Constitution indulges in takfir, the state can never claim to challenge jihadist ideology. Pakistan’s fight against terror, therefore, hinges on the state accepting Ahmadis as Muslims.

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