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Intro
In the preface of Seeratul Mahdi (1923), Mirza Bashir Ahmad writes his methodology, he explains how he only used people like Nusrat Jehan (MGA’s widow) and Mian Abdullah Sahib Sanori, since they knew MGA from the earliest period. Mirza Bashir Ahmad then claims that he only took narrations that were authentic, he explains that this was difficult and how Mawlavi Sher Ali Sahib and Mian Abdullah Sahib Sanori were the most authentic narrators. Ironically, he didn’t mention the 2nd Khalifa, his big brother by 4 years in terms of authenticity, and as we look through Seeratul Mahdi we see that most of the narrations by the 2nd Khalifa are with anonymous people, mostly hindu kids who’s information is dubious at best.

he writes:

“””This is why I have kept this thing in my mind that narrations be compiled from friends who have been in the company of Hazrat Sahib from the beginning. And there are people who have relationships before the commencement of Baiy’at. Hence, I have specially taken narrations from Hazrat Walida Sahiba and respected Mian Abdullah Sahib Sanori.

I have written in the beginning of the book that I have only taken narrations which I deemed according to my own knowledge to be authentic. This does not necessarily mean that I consider the details of the narrations to be authentic. I understand that the method of narrating and memorizing in our country prohibits me from thinking this way. However, from among the narrators that I took from, I have found two specific narrators to be very careful in narrating and they are respected Mawlavi Sher Ali Sahib and respected Mian Abdullah Sahib Sanori.”””

Continue reading “The 2nd Khalifa wasn’t seen as a good source of information by his younger brother, Mirza Bashir Ahmad in 1923, when they wrote Seeratul Mahdi” →

Intro
Per Ahmadiyya sources, the only child of MGA’s to matriculate, then get a Bachelor’s degree, and then a Master’s degree was Mirza Bashir Ahmad. The first time that he was listed as “M.A.” was in the November-1916 edition of the English-ROR. Before November-1916, he wrote essay’s in the ROR and was never listed as “M.A.” or “B.A.” or anything (see the Aug-1916, March and May of 1915, Sep and June of 1914 and a few others). Ahmadiyya sources claim that he got an M.A. in Arabic in 1916, ironically, he never wrote anything in arabic, no essay’s at all.

In 2018, a book from some Qadiani-Ahmadi’s in Canada was published entitled, “From Sialkot to Vancouver”. In this book, they claim that Mirza Bashir Ahmad entered Government College in Lahore and was a roommate of Shamshad Ali Khan (see page 112)(the future father-in-law of Zafrullah Khan). However, the source was not given. Nor do they tell us when he matriculated or when he got the B.A.

Continue reading “Did Mirza Bashir Ahmad really get a Master’s degree in Arabic in 1916?” →

Intro
In a rare essay critical of his brothers (Mirza Basheer ud Din Mahmud Ahmad) Khilafat. Mirza Bashir Ahmad seems to have written many derogatory statements about the future of the Ahmadiyya Khilafat. This book or essay seems to have been lost in Ahmadiyya history.  It seems to have been written in the late 1950’s. At that time, the Khalifa, (his elder brother) was incapacitated and was rarely seen in public. The Ahmadiyya editing team worked fast to make this essay/book disappear, however, in 2005, an ex-Ahmadi found the essay and mailed it out to all Ahmadi’s in the USA and Canada and maybe the UK. He also wrote the very controversial Seeratul Mahdi in 1923. He seemed to be disgruntled.
Continue reading “Mirza Bashir Ahmad wrote that the khilafat in their Jama‘at will not remain in its pure form forever, but will degenerate into a hereditary institution after the first four khalifas” →

Intro
Mirza Bashir Ahmad MA is the son of Mirza Ghulam Qadiani. He wrote famous book Seeratul Mahdi on the life of his father Mirza Ghulam Qadiani. In order to bring every minor detail of the life of his father, he wrote many objectionable and secret parts of the life of his father which other notable Qadianis did not like. For example he brought out the detail of his father,s bad sexual health, impotency etc detail of marriage with his mother Nusrat Jehan, formulation and use of sex medicines, use of opium in the medicine, use of tonic wine, live accounts of his death which indicate his death to be of Cholera as was prayed by him versus Molana Sanaullah Amritsari. Etc etc.

Intro
This is quite possibly the most controversial book in Ahmadiyya. It was written by the only (alleged) college educated son of MGA, Mirza Bashir Ahmad. Mirza Bashir Ahmad was a son of Mirza Ghulam Ahmad who was named Qamrul Anbiyaa (the moon of the prophets) by his father. He was born in 1893 and died on September 2, 1963, at the age of 71. He helped his brother through the latter’s period as head of the Qadiani Ahmadiyya. This help came in the form of managing properties in Qadian and writing books and essays in the jamaat periodicals that ultimately proved to be quite controversial. His role and his works are now greatly minimized by the Qadiani establishment. Very few Ahmadis know know much about him and his writings. The picture in the above is from the 1924 edition of the Moslem Sunrise.

It should be noted that this book, Kalimatul Fasl was written in the Urdu-Review of Religions of 1915 and serialized into book form afterwards. The second edition of Kalimatal Fasl was published again in 1941, per the below.
Continue reading ““Kalimatal Fasl” by Mirza Bashir Ahmad (1916) quotes and background info” →

Intro
Nowadays, you will see Ahmadi’s on social media claiming that Aisha was 19 years old when she was married to Muhammad (saw). In 1894, MGA confessed that Aisha (ra) was 9 years old at time of marriage. However, back in 1920, the sons of MGA told the world something totally different. Mirza Bashir Ahmad wrote many articles in Ahmadiyya newspapers, his book about the life of Muhammad (saw) appeared in 1919, mostly in the Urdu version of the ROR, those essay’s were turned into book form in 2011 by Mirza Masroor Ahmad. In Volume 2 of the book series, Mirza Bashir Ahmad goes on to argue that Ā’ishah was 7 years old when the marriage to Muhammad (saw) was announced (see volume 2, page 238). However, she didn’t enter the house of Muhammad (saw) until 3-5 years later when she was 9-12. However, he forgets that Muhammad’s first wife Khadija (ra) died in year 10 before Hijra. Muhammad’s marriage to Ā’ishah was announced soon thereafter (a few weeks). Thus we have a major contradiction in Mirza Bashir Ahmad’s theory. Nevertheless, he goes on to totally disagree with the idea that Ā’ishah was 14 or 16 at the time of marriage. On page 246, he goes on to argue that girls in hotter climates fully mature by age 10, and girls in colder climates take longer to mature.

This was also covered in the November-December edition of 1929 ROR. This is also related to the famous Sarda Act. The ROR of July-1932 argued that Aisha could not have been over the age of 9 at the time of marriage. The Sarda Act is mentioned by the 2nd Khalifa in the ROR of Dec-1932. The ROR of June-1938 has an essay on the age of Aisha and etc, no writer is given. The article argues that Aisha (ra) was 6-7 at the time of nikkah and explains how this is the unanimous view, it then argues that she was 12 at consummation.

By the 1950’s, Ahmadi-Mullahs found the need to deny the hadith from Bukhari. Continue reading “Mirza Bashir Ahmad (a son of MGA) wrote (in 1920) that Aisha was 7 years old when she married Muhammad (Saw)” →

Intro
We wanted to post some data on a rare book by Mirza Bashir Ahmad.

This book is the English version of the beliefs that Mirza Mahmud Ahmad and Mirza Bashir Ahmad were trying to sell to the community in the 1920s and 1930s. Like many other books of the period, it is not published by the Ahmadiyya. We have managed to obtain a few relevant pages from the book:

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Intro
Mirza Bashir Ahmad was a son of Mirza Ghulam Ahmad who was named Qamrul Anbiyaa (the moon of the prophets) by his father. He was born in 1893 and died on September 2, 1963, at the age of 71. He was breast fed by Rasool Bibi (the wife of MGA’s toilet attendant Shaikh Hamid Ali). Ahmadiyya sources claim that he was in college from 1909-1916 and that he graduated in 1916 with M.A. in Arabic, however, this is a lie. He wrote the famous Kalimatul Fasl, which appeared in the urdu version of the ROR  in 1915, and was made into a book in 1916. The first time that he was listed as “M.A.” was in the November-1916 edition of the English-ROR. From Jan-1923 to April 1932 he was listed as the editor of the ROR.

He helped his brother through the latter’s period as head of the Qadiani Ahmadiyya. This help came in the form of managing properties in Qadian and writing books and essays in the jamaat periodicals that ultimately proved to be quite controversial. His role and his works are now greatly minimized by the Qadiani establishment. Very few Ahmadis know know much about him and his writings. The picture in the above is from the 1924 edition of the Moslem Sunrise.

Seeratul Mahdi was collected, researched and published in 1923 by the Qadiani-Ahmadi’s and under the direct editing and supervision of Mirza Bashir Ahmad. The first volume of the first edition was published in 1923 with the second volume getting published in 1927. There seem to be only 2 volumes of the first edition. My team has translated the first 27 pages (narrations 1-48) and narrations 49-78 (see in the below).

The 2nd edition of Seeratul Mahdi (1935), it seems to have had at least 3 volumes, we have posted vol 1 and 3 in the below.

Seeratul_Mahdi_1935 edition, 2nd, Vol.1, narrations run from 1–304.

Seeratul_Mahdi_, April 1939, Vol-3, Narrations run from 472 -975.

It was also published from Qadian, from the house of Fakhr-uddin Multani, he seems to have owned a printing press “Ahmadiyya Book House” (Ahmadiyya Ghar house). Fakhr-uddin Multani left Ahmadiyya 2 years later and was killed in broad daylight in Qadian, right after the Friday prayer.

On the second page, it is written that Maulvi Sher Ali helped Mirza Bashir Ahmad with this collection, and it is better than the previous edition (and has many additions)(the 1923 edition). Ahmadi’s are editing the books of MGA all the time. They even edited Seeratul Mahdi from the 1935 edition to the 2008 edition in terms of MGA’s diarrhea spilling all around his bed.

Continue reading “Who is Mirza Bashir Ahmad?” →

Intro
The Lahori-Ahmadi’s had a long running rivalry with their Qadiani-Ahmadi’s.  You can read lots of it on the internet.  However, today, we bring you an incident from 1940-1941 wherein the topic of funeral prayers for non-Ahmadi’s-Muslims was discussed between the 2 factions.

1941
Muhammad Ali writes, “Qadianio ko Saalis Bun-nay kee Daawut”.  Muhammad Ali challenged any Qadiani-Ahmadi on this issue addressed to Qadiani Jamaat members. He asked if any single one of them could testify that:

“””‘In the time of the Promised Messiah and the time of Hazrat Maulana Nur-ud-Din, that is before 1914, saying funeral prayers for non-Ahmadis was considered to be prohibited as it is now, and no Ahmadi community ever held the funeral prayers of a non-Ahmadi.’”””

Mirza Bashir Ahmad responded

A few months later in 1941, Mirza Bashir Ahmad wrote a book in reply which was more than 200 pages long, entitled Mas`ala Janaza ki Haqiqat. The standpoint in this book was that when the Promised Messiah wrote that janaza prayers of non-Ahmadis were allowed, he put such conditions on it that such a non-Ahmadi would in effect have to be an Ahmadi!

Mirza Bashir Ahmad wrote about these conciliatory statements of the Promised Messiah that:

“The Promised Messiah gave people a bitter pill to swallow which he coated with sugar, but Hazrat Khalifat-ul-Masih 2 has given them the pill directly without sugar coating.”

Links and Related Essays
http://www.aaiil.org/urdu/books/muhammadali/saalis/saalis.shtml

Mujib-ur-Rahman’s statement on MTA about janaza prayers

https://ahmadiyyafactcheckblog.com/2018/08/25/who-is-mirza-bashir-ahmad-the-younger-brother-of-mirza-basheer-uddin-mahmud-ahmad/

https://ahmadiyyafactcheckblog.com/2017/11/21/in-1914-mirza-bashir-ahmad-simply-called-mga-a-mujadid-not-a-prophet/

https://ahmadiyyafactcheckblog.com/2017/07/17/seeratul-mahdis-1st-edition-is-missing-it-was-published-on-dec-10th-1923/

https://ahmadiyyafactcheckblog.com/2018/10/01/mirza-bashir-ahmad-a-son-of-mga-wrote-in-1920-that-aisha-was-7-years-old-when-she-married-muhammad-saw/

https://ahmadiyyafactcheckblog.com/2017/07/13/mirza-bashir-ahmad-did-takfir-on-all-muslims-and-lahori-ahmadis-1916/

https://ahmadiyyafactcheckblog.com/2018/10/01/kalimatal-fasl-by-mirza-bashir-ahmad-1916/

https://ahmadiyyafactcheckblog.com/2016/06/27/do-ahmadis-believe-in-the-same-kalima-as-muslims/

https://ahmadiyyafactcheckblog.com/2017/11/14/ahmadis-are-hypothetically-allowed-to-kill-other-ahmadis/

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