It seems that a few minutes after their debate, Noonie and Adnan Rashid reconvened and continued talking (Check out Part-2 herein [“Zarrayatul baghaya” and “Waladul Haraam” are discussed] and on the Dawah wise channel). In the first 5 minutes, Noonie rambles about multiple topics and doesn’t seem to understand how information and discussion work.
6:22—he calls Noonie stupid. This is about the famous fabricated hadith, “La Mahdi illa Eisa”.
7:45—Noonie admits that he had in fact prepared to come and debate at Speakers Corner.
7:47, Noonie alleges that Ibn Kathir accepted the fabricated report, “La Mahdi illa Eisa”.
11:35–Noonie alleges that Adnan Rashid kept asking him earlier if the name of Mirza Ghulam Ahmad was mentioned in the Quran. Adnan quickly said, NO, i never said that.
12:00—Noonie brings up the famous 62:3 and alleges that MGA is mentioned indirectly.
13:10—Noonie begins to use the Bible as evidence.
16:35–Noonie claims that India is East of Damascus. For the record, The latitude of Damascus, Syria is 33.510414. The latitude of Qadian is 31.8191° N. Not directly East.
17:54—Noonie doesn’t know that Jerusalem is North from Medina.
20:41—Noonie claims to be a former Christian Theologian, he claims to have graduated from the Dominican Institution of Theology and Philosophy. However, this is a lie, in fact, the Dominican Institution of Theology and Philosophy is in Berkely, California, how could Noonan have ever attended? How many lies can he tell? He then claims that he went on to other universities. Noonie also brings up Matthew 24:27 and claims that Jesus predicted that his second coming will be from the East.
24:00—-Adnan questions the behaviors of MGA and says that MGA wasn’t even a gentleman, how could he be a prophet.
27:02—Noonie admits that MGA did use harsh towards those who abused Muhammad (saw).
27:38–Adnan mentions how MGA called his deniers as “children of prostitutes”, “Zarrayatul baghaya”.
28:08–Noonie asks a Qadiani bystander if he can read urdu, he says no, however, Nooonan himself can’t read urdu.
30:03—Noonie accuses Muhammad (Saw) of being harsh to people.
30:40—Adnan asks, “is it justified in Islam, to insult people’s mothers”.
31:43—Noonie admits that MGA cursed at the mothers of people of who rejected him. Hilariously, Noonie keeps mis-pronouncing MGA’s name calls him “Mirza ghulamat”. He did this many times.
35:52—Noonie claims that some punjabi word has many meanings, this is most likely the word “kuttiyan”.
36:23—Noonie again says that MGA only cursed people because they were abusing Muhammad (Saw).
36:55—Noonie claims that Khabees is not a swear word, and mother’s say it all the time (maybe he means his mother-in-law).
37:03—Noonie doesn’t know urdu/punjabi, he didn’t know what “Kunjeree ka baita” means. Son of a prostitute.
42:36—Noonie didn’t do the homework on who MGA cussed at, he only knows what they told him.
40:51—MGA said that some was born from a crazy man’s sperm (pagaloo ka nutfa).
46:00—Noonie admits that MGA cussed at Muslims, after denying it for many minutes.
46:15—Noonie accuses Eisa (as) of abusing his rejectors.
48:10—the book Ain-e-Kamalat-e-Islam is discussed, it’s in Urdu and Arabic.
49:50—MGA’s insult, Waladul Haraam is discussed.
50:20—Noonan denies the Anwar ul Islam quote.
50:32—Noonie accuses Adnan of using Anti Ahmadi websites and claims that MGA never called anyone Waladul Haraam. Noonie denies the mere existence of this quote. Noonie even forgets the official website of the Ahmadiyya Movement.
In response to Adnan Rashid, Razi claims that other Mahdi’s can come (21:22 timestamp).
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