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Who is Abdul Wahab Omar? The son of Noorudin?

Intro
Abdul Wahab was the elder brother of Abdul Mannan Omar (1910-2006), they were both the sons of Noorudin (the 1st Khalifa). His only sister was Amtul Haye (the eldest sibling) and his elder brother who was killed was Abdul Haye, his other elder brother was Abdus Salaam (died in 1956). He was born and raised in MGA’s house, since Noorudin lived exclusively with MGA, in MGA’s mansion complex.

2 brothers were excommunicated from the Ahmadiyya Nizam – E – Jamaat in the 1956 for conspiring to depose the Khilafat. The second Khalifa discussed this in detail in his famous speech Khilafat – E – Haqqa Islamiyya. The 3rd brother was Maulvi Abdus Salaam who doesn’t seem to have been ex-communicated, by died in 1956.
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Mirza Ghulam Ahmad claimed that Noorudin and Muhammad Ahsan Amrohi were the 2 angels that he descended with

Intro
MGA and his team of writers were always perplexed about a hadith report from Sahih-Muslim and an identical report from Ibn Majah. In both of these hadith, it was told by Muhammad (saw) that when Esa (as) would physically descend from heaven, he would physically have 2 angels on his side. In 1914, Kwaja Kamaluddin tells us (See The Causes of Internal Dissensions in the Ahmadiyya Movement, By Khwaja Kamaluddin, 1914) that these 2 angels were Noorudin and Syed Muhammad Ahsan Amrohi. MGA also said it in one of his books, however, we can’t find that at the moment.

In Khwaja’s book, he didn’t talk about the hadith specifically, however, we know that this is the famous hadith from Muslim and Ibn Majah (when they refer to the 2 angels).
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Faslul Khitab by Maulvi Noorudin (1888) confirms that he also believed that Esa (as) would physically return to Earth

Intro
In 1887-1888, Maulvi Noorudin wrote a few book per MGA’s order, he would eventually become MGA’s top ghost writer. Thus, “Faslul Khitab” (4 volumes) was published by Noorudin in 1888 (press data is unknown)(Noorudin seems to have written this book while in Poonch, which is on the Azad Kashmir and Kashmir border these days)(See Hazrat Maulvi Noorudin). In this book, Noorudin translated 4:157-159, and agreed with the classic translations of these verses, which insinuate that Esa (as) was raised towards Allah(4:158) and hasn’t died yet (4:159), MGA wrote the same in 1884, in BA-4. Lekh Ram wrote a book vs. Mirza Ghulam Ahmad in 1887 entitled, “Takzib Barahin-i-Ahmadiyya”, in english it would be “Accusing as False the Proofs of Ahmadiya”. Noorudin responded with his 1890 publication, “Tasdiq-i-Barahin i Ahmadiyya”  (Verifying the Proofs of Ahmadiyya) (see Kenneth Jones). After MGA made his wild claims in late 1890 and early 1891, Noorudin’s career as a writer came to an end. He seems to have switched to ghost writer only. In March of 1904, Maulvi Noorudin wrote a book entitled Nur-ud-Din. It is currently online as Nur ul Din on the Qadiani-Ahmadi website. The Al-Badr announced its publishing. It was written in response to a book Tark-i Islam by a former Muslim who joined the Hindu Arya Samaj and had explained the reasons why he had left the religion of Islam. Interestingly enough, even Noorudin wrote that MGA was born in 1839. We came across this data via twitter handle, @zafarim786.
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Noorudin on 3:144 in 1888, via Faslul Khitab, page 28
See a good video on this here at 2:02:15 minute mark

Noorudin wrote that “Ar-Rusulu” meant many messengers, not ALL.

Translation

“”Muhammad (saw) was just one Messenger, before him, many Messengers have passed”

Urdu transliteration

“”Muhammad salaal salam to aik rasul hai, pallay isse bhot rasul ja chuke hain”

Scans 

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“””It contained rebuttals of one hundred and fifty objections raised by the Christian clergy against Islam, and a powerful refutation of Christianity. When the book was finished and published, Maulana Nur-ud-Din once again came to Hazrat Mirza and asked him: “What should I do now?” Hazrat Mirza replied: “Jihad.” Maulana Nurud-Din enquired: “With whom?” Hazrat Mirza replied: “With the Arya Hindus; write a book refuting their religion.” Accordingly, Maulana Nur-ud-Din wrote and published the book Tasdeeq Barahin Ahmadiyya (Verification of the Arguments Supporting Islam), which was a rebuttal of Lekhram’s book, Takzeeb Barahin Ahmadiyya (Falsification of the Arguments Supporting Islam). In this book, too, Maulana Nur-ud-Din effectively answered about a hundred and fifty further criticisms of Islam.”””
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Dard on Faslul Khitab
See Life of Ahmad by Dard, online english edition
Dard claims:

“”He called himself Bashir. On April 7th, 1885, he sent eight questions to Maulawi Nur-ud-Dinra, in answer to which he produced Faslul Khitab in 1888. Rev. Thomas Howell made an abortive effort in 1889 to make a reply which was entitled Jawab Ahlil Kitab (Akhtar Hind Press, Amritsar). In those days he was posted at Pind Dadan Khan.””

Scans

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Faslul Khitab Vol 2. P 308

Noorudin writes about 61:6, and how its about Muhammad (saw).

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Links and Related Essay’s

Maulana Nur-ud-Din wrote a book entitled “Nur-ul-Din” (1904)–MGA was born in 1839

In 1884, before his wildest claims, MGA defined Inni-Mutawafeeka, wa Raffa as I shall give you full reward and shall raise you towards Me

فصل الخطاب لمقدمۃ اہل الکتاب

“Supernatural” and “Archeological” aspects of Islam

 

https://ahmadiyyafactcheckblog.com/2018/12/11/mgas-age-prophecy-discussed-in-the-ror-of-march-1914/

https://ahmadiyyafactcheckblog.com/2018/03/05/nooruddin-married-off-his-eldest-son-abdul-haye-in-error-in-roughly-the-1906-1908-era/

https://ahmadiyyafactcheckblog.com/2018/12/08/the-moslem-sunrise-on-the-date-of-birth-of-mirza-ghulam-ahmad-1836-or-1837/

https://ahmadiyyafactcheckblog.com/2018/12/07/the-punjab-chiefs-1909-edition-officially-states-that-mirza-ghulam-ahmad-was-born-in-1839/

https://ahmadiyyafactcheckblog.com/2018/03/03/how-mirza-basheeruddin-mahmud-ahmad-killed-his-own-wife-amtul-hai-the-daughter-of-noorudin/

https://ahmadiyyafactcheckblog.com/2018/02/24/amatul-hayee-or-amtul-hai-the-daughter-of-nooruddin-and-the-wife-of-the-2nd-khalifa-mirza-basheer-uddin-mahmud-ahmad-and-her-mysterious-death/

https://ahmadiyyafactcheckblog.com/2018/03/01/how-did-mirza-mahmud-ahmad-marry-noorudins-daughter-in-1914-amtul-hai/

https://ahmadiyyafactcheckblog.com/2018/12/11/in-1915-yaqoob-ali-arfani-wrote-hayat-e-ahmad-and-confirmed-that-mga-was-born-in-1839/

https://ahmadiyyafactcheckblog.com/2019/06/02/mirza-ghulam-ahmad-and-2106-the-quranic-verse-of-abrogation/

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The Ahmadi Khalifa (Noorudin) supported the British government when they shot 20-30 Muslims who were rioting

Intro
We are reporting an incident from August 3rd, 1913, wherein the Ahmadi Khalifa (Maulvi Noorudin, who was living with one leg and immobile) supported the governments actions in shooting 20-30 Muslims who were rioting the decision to tear down a portion of a mosque (the famous Cawnpore [also spelled Kanpur] mosque shootings). Nowadays, Ahmadi’s cry when their mosque’s are torn down or partially demolished, however, when the British were in India, Ahmadi’s benefited and always took the side of the British government. The British government seems to have torn down this small portion of a mosque for a road, in the USA, we would call this as the concept of “Eminent domain”. The “Pagham-e-Sulh” magazine (Lahori-Ahmadi centric) supported Muslims and their agitation against the govt. Whereas, Noorudin (ra) wrote to the effect that “a bathroom forms no part of a mosque” and he reprimanded Ahmadis from supporting the rioters in the Pagham-e-Sulh. Eventually, Noorudin called this newspaper as “pagham-e-jang”, as a result of the publishing of “Izaharal Haq”. Whatever his comments were, it is obvious that he was displeased.

Furthermore, after 1914, Qadiani-Ahmadis as led by Khalifa 2 (ra) didnt play a role in supporting Muslim ambitions in the sub-continent, whereas the Lahoris were trying to build bridges with the Muslim community and were even satisfied by converting people to Islam and not Ahmadiyyat. The tabligh work of Kamalludin sahib in England highlights that concept. Khalifa 2 (ra) was more concerned with preserving the uniqueness of the Ahmadiyya movement.
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https://www.law.cornell.edu/wex/eminent_domain

https://academic.oup.com/jaar/article-abstract/XLII/2/263/800495?redirectedFrom=PDF

https://ahmadiyyafactcheckblog.com/2020/03/26/what-is-izharul-haq-no-1-and-izharul-haq-no-2/

https://ahmadiyyafactcheckblog.com/2019/10/26/why-was-the-ahmadiyya-place-of-worship-in-161-murad-district-bahawalpur-partially-demolished-2019/

https://ahmadiyyafactcheckblog.com/?s=Chakwal

https://ahmadiyyafactcheckblog.com/2016/12/14/ahmadiyya-security-fired-first-at-shakiwal/

https://ahmadiyyafactcheckblog.com/2016/12/15/at-chakwal-everyone-is-guilty-all-pakistanis/

https://ahmadiyyafactcheckblog.com/2017/02/17/an-interesting-development-in-the-chakwal-mosque-incident/

https://ahmadiyyafactcheckblog.com/2018/12/30/evidence-which-proves-that-mirza-tahir-ahmad-radicalized-ahmadis-as-soon-as-he-came-to-power-1982/

https://ahmadiyyafactcheckblog.com/2016/11/20/mirza-tahir-ahmad-was-a-vicious-mullah/

https://ahmadiyyafactcheckblog.com/2016/11/28/mirza-tahir-ahmad-radicalized-ahmadis-in-the-80s/

https://ahmadiyyafactcheckblog.com/2018/05/30/ahmadis-are-not-allowed-to-have-minarets-on-their-places-of-worship-in-pakistan-but-ahmadis-wont-listen/

https://ahmadiyyafactcheckblog.com/2019/09/27/any-ahmadi-who-refused-to-join-khuddam-ul-ahmadiyya-is-to-be-subjected-to-3-days-of-complete-social-boycott/

https://ahmadiyyafactcheckblog.com/2017/11/04/mirza-tahir-ahmad-lied-about-ordinance-xx-and-his-exodus-from-pakistan/

https://ahmadiyyafactcheckblog.com/2018/05/24/ahmadiyya-mosque-vandalized-in-sialkot-may-2018-but-its-all-ahmadis-fault-since-they-were-trying-to-build-a-museum-to-mirza-ghulam-ahmad/

https://ahmadiyyafactcheckblog.com/2017/07/03/abdul-sami-zafar-tells-the-inside-story-on-the-may-29th-1974-rabwah-train-attacks/

https://ahmadiyyafactcheckblog.com/2019/06/29/the-ahmadiyya-newspaper-al-fazl-quotes-and-data/

https://ahmadiyyafactcheckblog.com/2020/03/26/the-paigham-e-sulh-magazine-background-info-and-some-important-quotes/

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“Mirqatul-Yaqeen” a biography on the life of Noorudin, published in 1912

Intro
Also spelled Mirqat-ul-Yaqin, was an autobiography that was published by the order of Noorudin himself. Noorudin had always published his own books from a different press than MGA. The full name of the book is “Mirqatul yaqeen fi hayat e Nooruddin”(published in 1912, press info is not given) by Akbar Shah Khan of Najibabad before his death. In 1904, during MGA’s life, “Nur ud Din” was published, this book seems to be an extension of that. In 1909, Nooruddin was violently dragged by horse for what seems to be several miles. He was dragged so bad that his leg had to be amputated and he became totally bed-ridden for the last 3-4 years of his life. In another quotation, Noorudin seems to boast that MGA’s widow is his personal prostitute. Yet another quotation shows how Noorudin was always ok with homosexuality. Mirqatul Yaqeen was then re-published in the 1950’s with many edits (by the Lahori-Ahmadi’s), and then again in the 1970’s with heavy editing. The controversial line was as follows: “”that Hazrat Umar (ra) was a khalifa of a Prophet and now his son (i.e Nuruddin) is the first Khalifa of a Prophet””. The family tree of Maulana Nur-ud-Din which appears in it (which ends with the names of his sons subsequently expelled from the Qadiani Jamaat), the book refers to Badr, 28 March 1912 as the source of the table. At this link is a scanned image of that page from Badr. The words, “and now his son (i.e Nuruddin) is the first Khalifa of a Prophet”, are stated there to be written by the Editor, who was Mufti Muhammad Sadiq. But what does Maulana Nur-ud-Din himself say? On the very same page, after the table, there is quoted a statement by him saying: “At this time, the God of us all is one, our Book is one, our Rasul is one, our qibla is one, and our Imam is one.” That “one Rasul” of ours is the Holy Prophet Muhammad, he is the only Rasul we have, and that “one Imam” is HMGA.

Then there are the contents of the book Mirqat-ul-Yaqin itself. What beliefs does the Hazrat Maulana himself mention in it? Quite close to the beginning of the book a letter by the Maulana, written in December 1908 (after becoming Khalifa) to the editor of a magazine, is quoted under the heading “Beliefs and creed, in his own words by the Ameer-ul-Mumineen”.

—The edition of Mirqaatul Yaqeen that is relied upon by Qadiani-Ahmadi’s is the one published in 1962 by Al-Shrikat-ul-Islamiyyah Limited, Rabwah (See Hasanat Ahmad).
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Who was Akbar Shah Khan of Najibabad ?

Akbar Shah Khan Najeebabadi was member of the Lahori-Ahmadi’s and authored Maulana Noor Ud Din biography, “Mirqat-ul-Yaqin” in 1912. He also authored famous Tarikh e Islam (History of Islam) in 3 volumes).

In 1915, he announced the proposal for starting his journal, “Ibrat” in Paigham Sulh, 16 November 1915, and the idea was supported by the Lahore Ahmadiyya Jamaat and Maulana Muhammad Ali, and they appealed for financial support for his magazine. At this link you can read pages 1 and 2 of that issue of Paigham Sulh. Maulana Abdul Haq Vidyarthi once accompanied him on a missionary tour in 1915 to combat the Arya Samaj on behalf of Islam. See this link.

By 1916, he had totally left Ahmadiyya and became a Sunni-Muslim.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Akbar_Shah_Khan_Najibabadi

Contemporaries of Hazrat Mirza Ghulam Ahmad


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The first half of the letter deals only with his beliefs about Islam, without mentioning HMGA. In the second half, the claims of HMGA which are mentioned are:

1. recipient of revelation,
2. imam and mujaddid and khalifa according to the khilafat verse of the Quran. (This would mean that HMGA is the khalifa according to that verse).
3. Mahdi
4. Promised Messiah
5. Claim that Jesus has died
6. Claim that Jesus cannot return

After all this, he comes to the last point 7 which is:

“He made thousands of prophecies which came true … he believed the Holy Prophet to be Khatam-un-nabiyyin … No doubt he wrote that I am a Nabi in the meaning of one who makes prophecies”.
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Did Noorudin promote homosexuality in this book?
https://ahmadiyyafactcheckblog.com/2017/04/21/nooruddin-promoted-homosexuality-and-so-did-mga-and-mahmud-ahmad/
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Some quotes

Who was behind the Arabic works of the Promised Messiah a.s.? – Part II

“God Almighty has unique ways at His disposition. I did not ever think even in my dreams or thoughts about my hometown again. Thereafter, I got completely attached with Qadian.” (Mirqat-ul-Yaqin fi Hayat-e-Nuruddin, p. 187)
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Links and Related Essay’s
https://ahmadiyyafactcheckblog.com/2018/01/03/nooruddin-fell-off-of-his-horse-in-1909-and-was-dragged-until-he-almost-died/

https://ahmadiyyafactcheckblog.com/2017/09/29/maulana-nur-ud-din-wrote-a-book-entitled-nur-ud-din-1904-mga-was-born-in-1839/

https://ahmadiyyafactcheckblog.com/2017/04/21/nooruddin-promoted-homosexuality-and-so-did-mga-and-mahmud-ahmad/

https://ahmadiyyafactcheckblog.com/2017/04/25/was-mirza-ghulam-ahmads-wife-a-concubine-aka-laundi-of-noorudin/

https://ahmadiyyafactcheckblog.com/2017/04/25/was-mirza-ghulam-ahmads-wife-a-concubine-aka-laundi-of-noorudin/

https://ahmadiyyafactcheckblog.com/2017/04/21/nooruddin-promoted-homosexuality-and-so-did-mga-and-mahmud-ahmad/

https://ahmadiyyafactcheckblog.com/2018/01/03/nooruddin-fell-off-of-his-horse-in-1909-and-was-dragged-until-he-almost-died/

https://ahmadiyyafactcheckblog.com/2017/04/21/nooruddin-promoted-homosexuality-and-so-did-mga-and-mahmud-ahmad/

https://ahmadiyyafactcheckblog.com/2017/11/05/mirza-ghulam-ahmad-embarrassed-noorudin-in-1891/

https://ahmadiyyafactcheckblog.com/2017/01/02/mufti-muhammad-sadiq-was-a-student-of-noorudin-pre-1891/

https://ahmadiyyafactcheckblog.com/2017/12/17/nooruddin-treated-mirza-ghulam-ahmad-for-impotency-and-many-others-with-opium/

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Who is Khalifa Noorudin Jamooni?

Intro
Khalifa Noorudin Jamooni was born a Muslim in 1847, he died 95 years later on 9-2-1942 (see Dard, page 684 and Al-Hakam archives). He converted to Ahmadiyya very early on, he is mentioned as companion #164 on MGA’s list of the first 313 Ahmadi’s of 1896 (See Dard). He seems to have worked with the famous Ahmadi and later 1st Khalifa, Maulvi Hakeem Noorudin while they were in Jammu, this was 1874 (per Tarikh i Ahmadiyya), in fact, he was Maulvi Noorudin’s student in 1874(see “Hakeem Noor-ud-Deen The Way of the Righteous”, online english edition, page 150), even though they were the same age. They worked together until the death of Ranbir Singh, or a few years after that until 1889. Many of Noorudin’s students were working with MGA at Qadian by 1891, a few notables are Mufti Muhammad Sadiq, Maulvi Abdul Karim Sialkoti, and many others as they wrote for MGA and led prayers. In 1888, when Noorudin fell sick in Jammu, MGA visited Jammu and stayed in the house of Khalifa nur-ud-Din (In the Company of the Promised Messiah, page 3). In December of 1891, he attended the first Ahmadi Jalsa at Qadian, his name was thus written by MGA in his book, “Nishan Asmani” (1892). Nevertheless, by 1899, he was the main character and close friend and eventual witness as MGA introduced the idea that the prophet Jesus=Yuz Asaf (see Tarikh-e-Ahmadiyya). In a Friday Sermon in 2012, Mirza Masroor Ahmad relates how Khalifa Nur-ud-Din went to Srinagar in Kashmir and collected 560 signatures from scholars proving that Esa (as)= Yuz Asaf.  However, this was a lie, and the list never appeared. After 1900, he is mentioned in Nuzul ul Masih (which was published in 1909) as he wished to move to Qadian when the plague broke out in Jammu. He is also mentioned on page 61 of “Maharaja Ranjit Singh” by Madanjit Kaur. By 2020, we have figured out exactly how MGA and his team of writers/reciters fabricated this entire story. As we all know, MGA and his team of writers/editors lied about almost everything they did. We have fodn a huge case of academic dishonesty in terms of MGA’s quotations to a persian book, “Ayn-ul-Hayat”. MGA and his team first quoted this book in 1898, in a book called ‘Raz-e-Haqiqat”, which was translated and published into english in 2016, see page 24. However, they were academically dishonest, they purposely didn’t mention that Yuz Asaf had a father and many other things, an Ex-Ahmadi, Shams ud Din, recently got a hold of Ayn ul Hayat and posted his results in a video, make sure you watch Part-2 also, these are in Urdu and watch part 3. We have also found “Ayn ul Hayat” and have posted the PDF’s in the below. This book proves that MGA totally lied. Shams ud Din found the book “Rahul ul Hayat” by Allama Muhammad Bakir, there is an urdu translation called, “Ainul Hayat”. On page 361, it is written that Yuz Asaf had a father in Kashmir. This immediately cancelled Yuz Asaf becoming Esa (As), since Esa (as) historically never had a father. Yuz Asaf was the son of a King and was able to live a life of excess. MGA never mentioned any of this. Yuz Asaf’s dad was a drunkard, and even prayed to idols. It is also important to read about Maulvi Shaikh Abdullah Wakeel’s story about Yuz Asaf.

He also knew Syed Muhammad Hussain Batalvi
In 2012, the Ahmadiyya Khalifa, Mirza Masroor Ahmad tells us:

“””Hadhrat Khalifa Nur ud din sahib (may Allah be pleased with him): He writes that he was a friend of Maulwi Muhammad Hussein Batalwi from his pre-Ahmadiyyat days. Once the Maulwi was leading Salat when Khalifa sahib too offered his Salat in the room. After finishing Salat Maulwi sahib was very pleased as he assumed Khalifa Nur ud din sahib had offered his Salat behind him. Khalifa Nur ud din sahib explained to him that let alone offer his Salat behind a non-Ahmadi, he would not even lead Salat for a non-Ahmadi. This astonished Maulwi sahib and he said this was not the belief of other Ahmadis. Khalifa Nur ud din responded everyone had their own way and quoted the Qur’an: ‘It is not for the Prophet and those who believe that they should ask of God forgiveness for the idolaters, even though they may be kinsmen…’ (9:113) He then asked Maulwi sahib were his beliefs not those of the idolaters? He aksed that as an Imam what could he pray for non-Ahmadis who followed him in Salat, that God forgive me and also forgive him who rejects Your Messiah? He writes that the Promised Messiah (on whom be peace) laughed when he mentioned this incident to him.”””

Links and Related Essays

30 August – 5 September

Jalsa Salana History: ‘If we live to see 27 December’

https://ahmadiyyafactcheckblog.com/2018/08/27/the-yuz-asaf-story-from-tarikh-i-ahmadiyya/

https://ahmadiyyafactcheckblog.com/2017/07/10/ahmadiyya-leadership-admitted-that-mga-used-lots-of-editors-and-ghost-writers/

https://www.alislam.org/friday-sermon/printer-friendly-summary-2012-05-25.html

https://ahmadiyyafactcheckblog.com/2016/10/24/noorudin-and-abdul-karim-were-influenced-by-sir-syed/

https://ahmadiyyafactcheckblog.com/?s=never+led

https://ahmadiyyafactcheckblog.com/2017/01/02/mufti-muhammad-sadiq-was-a-student-of-noorudin-pre-1891/

https://ahmadiyyafactcheckblog.com/2017/01/15/in-qadian-mirza-ghulam-ahmad-was-allowed-to-be-intimately-touched-by-all-women-and-men/

https://ahmadiyyafactcheckblog.com/2018/10/04/maulvi-sher-ali-told-the-world-that-mirza-ghulam-ahmad-would-send-his-arabic-writings-to-noorudin-and-ahsan-amrohi-for-editing/

https://ahmadiyyafactcheckblog.com/2016/09/06/mirza-ghulam-ahmad-used-scribes/

https://ahmadiyyafactcheckblog.com/2016/08/13/mga-lied-about-his-opium-use/

https://ahmadiyyafactcheckblog.com/2016/09/30/mgas-ghost-writers-argue-on-the-prophethood-of-mga-in-1900/

https://ahmadiyyafactcheckblog.com/2016/12/20/mirza-ghulam-ahmad-didnt-write-braheen-e-ahmadiyya-vol-5/

https://ahmadiyyafactcheckblog.com/2017/12/09/mga-never-led-salaat-in-his-entire-life/

https://ahmadiyyafactcheckblog.com/2017/06/27/muhammad-ali-lived-exclusively-within-mirza-ghulam-ahmads-house-for-almost-10-years-1899-1909/

https://ahmadiyyafactcheckblog.com/2017/06/27/maulvi-abdul-kareem-lived-exclusively-with-mga-on-the-3rd-floor-of-mgas-house/

https://ahmadiyyafactcheckblog.com/2017/07/16/maulvi-muhammad-ahsan-amrohi-lived-exclusively-in-mgas-house/

https://ahmadiyyafactcheckblog.com/2019/02/10/who-is-maulvi-sher-ali-1875-1947/

https://ahmadiyyafactcheckblog.com/?s=ghost+writers

https://ahmadiyyafactcheckblog.com/2018/05/04/ahmadiyya-mullahs-have-been-caught-editing-the-writings-of-mga-yet-again/

https://ahmadiyyafactcheckblog.com/?s=right+arm

https://ahmadiyyafactcheckblog.com/2016/09/06/lecture-ludhiana-was-not-a-lecture-it-was-a-riot/

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Mirza Ghulam Ahmad’s desire for a 3rd marriage led him to ask Noorudin about his pre-teen daughter

Intro
The Ahmadiyya movement has always supported “child-marriage” and polygamy.  In fact, when MGA got married in roughly 1853, he was barely 13 years old and his new wife was younger (his first cousin).  He married again in 1884, Nusrat Jehan Begum was roughly 12 years old if not younger, her younger brother was 2 years old (in 1884) and 3rd youngest sibling hadn’t even been born yet.  MGA had barely been married 18 months by January of 1886 and he decided to leave his wife and spend 40 days in seclusion about 100 miles away from Qadian.  In March of 1886 he had his famous announcement of Feb. 20th, 1886 published.  In this announcement, MGA was predicting a 3rd marriage and a promised son most likely from a 3rd marriage.  MGA seems to have had correspondence with Noorudin (while Noorudin was still in Jammu) about all of these predictions/prophecies.  During the course of that correspondence, MGA seems to have also proposed to Noorudin about Noorudin’s young daughter from a previous marriage (Noorudin was roughly 42 in this era), we have cross-checked both major biographical works on the life of Noorudin (english books only) and we can’t find any data on this.  Shaikh Yacub Ali Irfani also makes an appearance here, he seems to have been working with Noorudin as a student/helper as early as 1886 and in Jammu.  Irfani wrote in a note to the effect that Noorudin would not be allowing his young daughter to marry MGA, since his young daughter was not an adult.  This daughter disappeared from the scene, Noorudin married again in 1889, and his daughter (Amtul Hai) from this marriage married the Khalifa in 1914.  From his first wife, Fatima Sahiba (daughter of Sheikh Mukarram Sahib Bhervi), he had nine sons and five daughters.  We are still unsure which daughter MGA was asking to marry.

The letters with a rough translation into english

MAKTUBAT E AHMADIA VOL-2, PAGE 12
Latter No. 3

My Dear Brother
Your esteemed letter was received,which spreads fragrance of enthusiasm for truth JAZAKALLAH. Prayers were made for your pious daughter. It is a blessing that she has memorized the holy Quran. Otherwise it is a rare thing in the women of this country. How lucky are her parents and the ones who would establish new relationship to you relating to her.

Wassalam 
Ghulam Ahmad
11th March, 1886
_____________________________________________________________________________________________

On 8th June, 1886 MGA sent another letter to Hakim Molvi Nuruddin elaborating his intentions with regard to third marriage and promised son. For the sake of brevity we reproduce only relevant portion as under:-

My Dear Brother,
Four months back, it was revealed to this humble self that i will be blessed with a magnificent son whose name would be Bashir. I was mistaken to think that the promised son would be born of my present wife, but the excessive Ilham have now confirmed that Allah has decided that He will get me re-married to a third wife and bless the promised sone from this third wife. Two different women were motioned for this marriage, but as guided by Allah, both were rejected as one was a misfortunate and other was ugly, since Allah wanted the boy to be born of a woman perfect in piety and beauty.

Some blind critics raised objection as to why the promised son not born of previous pregnancy. What I understand is that the prophesy would materialize after third marriage. This third marriage is to take place shortly. To whom this marriage will take place, excessive Iham are taking place and storm like intensity is found in the intentions of god.

Mirza Ghulam Ahmad
Qadian, 8th June 1886
_____________________________________________________________________________________________

MGA sent another letter on 20th June to Molvi Nuruddin, the contents of which suggest that Nuruddin did not like the idea of third marriage because there is a note of Irfani, the compiler of Maktubat e Ahmad, which confirms that perhaps Nuruddin disapproved MGA’s proposal for his daughter. Now read the letter and note of Irfani.

My Dear Brother,
Esteemed letter was received, this humble self had written to you of his third marriage just to inform a friend of the heavenly secrets, because it is the habit of this humble self that he informs of some of the Hidden orders (ghaibi amoor)to his friends to increase their faiths.

Since the revelation of ilham of third marriage, this humble self is praying for postponement of this order, but continuance of ilham prove that it has become a definite fate. (Taqdir e Mubram). This humble self has decided to avoid from doing this until a clear and categorical heavenly compulsion is received.

Wassalam- humble self
Ghulam Ahmad
20th June 1886
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Note by Shaikh Yaqub Ali Irfani : 
Allah has given glad-tiding and signs for this third marriage to hazrat sb and he motioned it to his nears and dears who were far away from Allah although not deniers. Hazrat sb informed of these glade tidings to Hakim Nuruddin. As far as he (irfani) knows Hakim sb was ready to give his daughter in Nikah to MGA, in case if she was adult.

Now from such bizarre events, any impartial ahmadi, not only can judge as to what types of weak and fabricated revelations MGA mentions to have received, but also see the quick manoeuvrings he do which surely do not matches with that of a high moral character of a messenger of Allah.

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The old tomb of Jesus website, Maulvi Abdullah, Khalifa Noorudin and MGA

Intro
Dear readers, about 10-15 years ago, some Ahmadi made a website called “tombofjesus”.  When the tomb of Yuz Asaf was discovered by some Ahmadi’s (1895 or 1896), it was argued by Maulvi Shaikh Abdullah (the lawyer) who was an inhabitant of Kashmir, that since this tomb was that of a prophet, that eliminated all muslims from the equation, thus it must belong to a Jewish prophet.  Muslims strictly believe that the HP was the final prophet, there were no more prophets to come. Muslims only had one prophet, on the other hand the jewish people had many prophets, in other words because of the concept of khatme-nubuwwat, this had to be a jewish prophet. When HMGA recieved this data he also used the ending of prophethood as his main argument in terms of proving that Yus Asaf was not a muslim.

In a letter written to HMGA(1895 or 1896), maulvi Abdullah writes:

“The word nabi is common between the followers of Islam and the Israelites, and as in Islam no prophet came after our Holy Prophet Muhammad, nor could one come, therefore the general Muslims of Kashmir are agreed that this prophet is from before Islam.”

“But because of the ending of prophethood, this excludes the Muslim people. Therefore it is clearly proved that this prophet is an Israelite prophet.”

Then HMGA wrote a footnote to this published letter, in it he comments:

“””””But after the ending of prophethood, no further prophet can come in Islam. Therefore it is settled that he was an Israelite prophet.””””

This argument was contradicted in November of 1901 as MGA claimed prophethood
As we all know, before 1901, MGA and his team denied that MGA was a prophet, however, after November, MGA was a full fledged prophet and thus the entire line of argumentation that was created to prove that Yuz Asaf=Jesus was totally contradicted.

The owners of the “tomb of Jesus” website also felt the same contradiction, they felt the need to add this important note:

Tomb of Jesus Website Comments:

“””””The reader will note that in footnote 2 above, Ghulam Ahmad states that no prophet can come after Muhammad. Therefore, the inhabitant of the Roza Bal must have been a Jewish prophet. Later, though, as his followers believe, and as Ghulam Ahmad explained, God had repeatedly told Ghulam Ahmad that He (God) had appointed Ghulam Ahmad as a follower-prophet of Muhammad.  Ahmadiyya literature reflects that Ghulam Ahmad himself seemed quite stunned by these revelations from God, because, just as other Muslims, he had understood Islam to teach that there could be no prophet of any type coming after Muhammad].””””

Further research showed that ahmadis did not abandon this debate-tactic.  In two books published in the 1930’s and 40’s the same technique was used:

The Tomb of Jesus by Sufi Mutuir Rahman Bengalee, M. A.

See pg. 41

and Where Did Jesus Die? by J. D. Shams

See chapter 13

They wrote the same argument.  That’s unbelievable.  I think these two men felt that this argument alone convinced HMGA that this tomb was in fact that of Jesus.

Who is Khalifa Nooruddin?
This is another person that helped MGA land on the idea that Yuz Asaf= Jesus (see Page 48).
Dard tells us about Khalifa Noorudin as follows, see page 684:

“”””On October 4th, 1899, Ahmadas appealed for funds; and, apart from the permanent needs of the Langar at Qadian and the production of literature, he proposed to send a deputation of three men to Afghanistan, Nisibain, Kerbala, and the Laghman mountains to make further research with regard to the travels of Jesusas. Khalifa Nur-ud-Dinra (Born 1847, died, 2.9.1942) had in this connection made the necessary enquiries in Kashmir.”””

He gave money for the building of the white minaret
Per Dard (page 855), Khalifa Nur-ud-Din, Merchant, Jammu.

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https://books.google.com/books?id=ARplAgAAQBAJ&pg=PA48&lpg=PA48&dq=Khalifa+Noorudin+from+Kashmir&source=bl&ots=_po4n90h9N&sig=ACfU3U3HO6DfYefna0kXbqmZeYS1a5YdXg&hl=en&sa=X&ved=2ahUKEwjk25j-z7fgAhX0BjQIHdjDC98Q6AEwDXoECAAQAQ#v=onepage&q=Khalifa%20Noorudin%20from%20Kashmir&f=false

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Maulvi Sher Ali told the world that Mirza Ghulam Ahmad would send his Arabic writings to Noorudin and Ahsan Amrohi for editing

Intro
MGA hired many people to help him. Noorudin was the most famous, as was Maulvi Syed Muhammad Ahsan Amrohi. In the below, we have proven that MGA always sent his manuscripts for proof-reading to his employee’s. We have also posted the quote from Seeratul Mahdi wherein MGA claimed that all of his Arabic books/writings are a type of revelation, since they were written with the power of Allah. MGA has said this about all of his books, whether arabic or not.
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