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Mirza Ghulam Ahmad’s desire for a 3rd marriage led him to ask Noorudin about his pre-teen daughter

Intro
The Ahmadiyya movement has always supported “child-marriage” and polygamy.  In fact, when MGA got married in roughly 1853, he was barely 13 years old and his new wife was younger (his first cousin).  He married again in 1884, Nusrat Jehan Begum was roughly 12 years old if not younger, her younger brother was 2 years old (in 1884) and 3rd youngest sibling hadn’t even been born yet.  MGA had barely been married 18 months by January of 1886 and he decided to leave his wife and spend 40 days in seclusion about 100 miles away from Qadian.  In March of 1886 he had his famous announcement of Feb. 20th, 1886 published.  In this announcement, MGA was predicting a 3rd marriage and a promised son most likely from a 3rd marriage.  MGA seems to have had correspondence with Noorudin (while Noorudin was still in Jammu) about all of these predictions/prophecies.  During the course of that correspondence, MGA seems to have also proposed to Noorudin about Noorudin’s young daughter from a previous marriage (Noorudin was roughly 42 in this era), we have cross-checked both major biographical works on the life of Noorudin (english books only) and we can’t find any data on this.  Shaikh Yacub Ali Irfani also makes an appearance here, he seems to have been working with Noorudin as a student/helper as early as 1886 and in Jammu.  Irfani wrote in a note to the effect that Noorudin would not be allowing his young daughter to marry MGA, since his young daughter was not an adult.  This daughter disappeared from the scene, Noorudin married again in 1889, and his daughter (Amtul Hai) from this marriage married the Khalifa in 1914.  From his first wife, Fatima Sahiba (daughter of Sheikh Mukarram Sahib Bhervi), he had nine sons and five daughters.  We are still unsure which daughter MGA was asking to marry.

The letters with a rough translation into english

MAKTUBAT E AHMADIA VOL-2, PAGE 12
Latter No. 3

My Dear Brother
Your esteemed letter was received,which spreads fragrance of enthusiasm for truth JAZAKALLAH. Prayers were made for your pious daughter. It is a blessing that she has memorized the holy Quran. Otherwise it is a rare thing in the women of this country. How lucky are her parents and the ones who would establish new relationship to you relating to her.

Wassalam 
Ghulam Ahmad
11th March, 1886
_____________________________________________________________________________________________

On 8th June, 1886 MGA sent another letter to Hakim Molvi Nuruddin elaborating his intentions with regard to third marriage and promised son. For the sake of brevity we reproduce only relevant portion as under:-

My Dear Brother,
Four months back, it was revealed to this humble self that i will be blessed with a magnificent son whose name would be Bashir. I was mistaken to think that the promised son would be born of my present wife, but the excessive Ilham have now confirmed that Allah has decided that He will get me re-married to a third wife and bless the promised sone from this third wife. Two different women were motioned for this marriage, but as guided by Allah, both were rejected as one was a misfortunate and other was ugly, since Allah wanted the boy to be born of a woman perfect in piety and beauty.

Some blind critics raised objection as to why the promised son not born of previous pregnancy. What I understand is that the prophesy would materialize after third marriage. This third marriage is to take place shortly. To whom this marriage will take place, excessive Iham are taking place and storm like intensity is found in the intentions of god.

Mirza Ghulam Ahmad
Qadian, 8th June 1886
_____________________________________________________________________________________________

MGA sent another letter on 20th June to Molvi Nuruddin, the contents of which suggest that Nuruddin did not like the idea of third marriage because there is a note of Irfani, the compiler of Maktubat e Ahmad, which confirms that perhaps Nuruddin disapproved MGA’s proposal for his daughter. Now read the letter and note of Irfani.

My Dear Brother,
Esteemed letter was received, this humble self had written to you of his third marriage just to inform a friend of the heavenly secrets, because it is the habit of this humble self that he informs of some of the Hidden orders (ghaibi amoor)to his friends to increase their faiths.

Since the revelation of ilham of third marriage, this humble self is praying for postponement of this order, but continuance of ilham prove that it has become a definite fate. (Taqdir e Mubram). This humble self has decided to avoid from doing this until a clear and categorical heavenly compulsion is received.

Wassalam- humble self
Ghulam Ahmad
20th June 1886
_____________________________________________________________________________________________

Note by Shaikh Yaqub Ali Irfani : 
Allah has given glad-tiding and signs for this third marriage to hazrat sb and he motioned it to his nears and dears who were far away from Allah although not deniers. Hazrat sb informed of these glade tidings to Hakim Nuruddin. As far as he (irfani) knows Hakim sb was ready to give his daughter in Nikah to MGA, in case if she was adult.

Now from such bizarre events, any impartial ahmadi, not only can judge as to what types of weak and fabricated revelations MGA mentions to have received, but also see the quick manoeuvrings he do which surely do not matches with that of a high moral character of a messenger of Allah.

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The old tomb of Jesus website, Maulvi Abdullah, Khalifa Noorudin and MGA

Intro
Dear readers, about 10-15 years ago, some Ahmadi made a website called “tombofjesus”.  When the tomb of Yuz Asaf was discovered by some Ahmadi’s (1895 or 1896), it was argued by Maulvi Shaikh Abdullah (the lawyer) who was an inhabitant of Kashmir, that since this tomb was that of a prophet, that eliminated all muslims from the equation, thus it must belong to a Jewish prophet.  Muslims strictly believe that the HP was the final prophet, there were no more prophets to come. Muslims only had one prophet, on the other hand the jewish people had many prophets, in other words because of the concept of khatme-nubuwwat, this had to be a jewish prophet. When HMGA recieved this data he also used the ending of prophethood as his main argument in terms of proving that Yus Asaf was not a muslim.

In a letter written to HMGA(1895 or 1896), maulvi Abdullah writes:

“The word nabi is common between the followers of Islam and the Israelites, and as in Islam no prophet came after our Holy Prophet Muhammad, nor could one come, therefore the general Muslims of Kashmir are agreed that this prophet is from before Islam.”

“But because of the ending of prophethood, this excludes the Muslim people. Therefore it is clearly proved that this prophet is an Israelite prophet.”

Then HMGA wrote a footnote to this published letter, in it he comments:

“””””But after the ending of prophethood, no further prophet can come in Islam. Therefore it is settled that he was an Israelite prophet.””””

This argument was contradicted in November of 1901 as MGA claimed prophethood
As we all know, before 1901, MGA and his team denied that MGA was a prophet, however, after November, MGA was a full fledged prophet and thus the entire line of argumentation that was created to prove that Yuz Asaf=Jesus was totally contradicted.

The owners of the “tomb of Jesus” website also felt the same contradiction, they felt the need to add this important note:

Tomb of Jesus Website Comments:

“””””The reader will note that in footnote 2 above, Ghulam Ahmad states that no prophet can come after Muhammad. Therefore, the inhabitant of the Roza Bal must have been a Jewish prophet. Later, though, as his followers believe, and as Ghulam Ahmad explained, God had repeatedly told Ghulam Ahmad that He (God) had appointed Ghulam Ahmad as a follower-prophet of Muhammad.  Ahmadiyya literature reflects that Ghulam Ahmad himself seemed quite stunned by these revelations from God, because, just as other Muslims, he had understood Islam to teach that there could be no prophet of any type coming after Muhammad].””””

Further research showed that ahmadis did not abandon this debate-tactic.  In two books published in the 1930’s and 40’s the same technique was used:

The Tomb of Jesus by Sufi Mutuir Rahman Bengalee, M. A.

See pg. 41

and Where Did Jesus Die? by J. D. Shams

See chapter 13

They wrote the same argument.  That’s unbelievable.  I think these two men felt that this argument alone convinced HMGA that this tomb was in fact that of Jesus.

Who is Khalifa Nooruddin?
This is another person that helped MGA land on the idea that Yuz Asaf= Jesus (see Page 48).
Dard tells us about Khalifa Noorudin as follows, see page 684:

“”””On October 4th, 1899, Ahmadas appealed for funds; and, apart from the permanent needs of the Langar at Qadian and the production of literature, he proposed to send a deputation of three men to Afghanistan, Nisibain, Kerbala, and the Laghman mountains to make further research with regard to the travels of Jesusas. Khalifa Nur-ud-Dinra (Born 1847, died, 2.9.1942) had in this connection made the necessary enquiries in Kashmir.”””

He gave money for the building of the white minaret
Per Dard (page 855), Khalifa Nur-ud-Din, Merchant, Jammu.

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http://www.tombofjesus.com/2007/core/founders/ahmad/Letter_of_Maulvi_Abdullah.pdf

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https://books.google.com/books?id=ARplAgAAQBAJ&pg=PA48&lpg=PA48&dq=Khalifa+Noorudin+from+Kashmir&source=bl&ots=_po4n90h9N&sig=ACfU3U3HO6DfYefna0kXbqmZeYS1a5YdXg&hl=en&sa=X&ved=2ahUKEwjk25j-z7fgAhX0BjQIHdjDC98Q6AEwDXoECAAQAQ#v=onepage&q=Khalifa%20Noorudin%20from%20Kashmir&f=false

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Maulvi Sher Ali told the world that Mirza Ghulam Ahmad would send his Arabic writings to Noorudin and Ahsan Amrohi for editing

Intro
MGA hired many people to help him.  Noorudin was the most famous, as was Maulvi Syed Muhammad Ahsan Amrohi.

Summary, Seertul Mahdi Quotation number 104 Book By By Mirza basheer M.A .
Molvi sher Ali sahb says that Mirza Qadyani calls his arabic writings sort of revelation but Mirza use to get his Arabic revelation checked and corrected from First khalifa ( Hakeem Nooruddin) and Molvi Mohammad Ahsan and get them rectified. After Rectification they use to return it back.

Seertul Mahdi Quotation number 104 Book By By Mirza basheer M.A .

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MGA forced Noorudin to pretend to be Hanafi, even though he was a Wahabbi aka Ahl-e-Hadith

Intro
Nooruddin and MGA were both Ahl-e-Hadith (aka Wahabbi) type of Muslims before 1889.  In fact, MGA’s nikkah was read out by the top Ahl-e-Hadith mullah in North India in 1884.  Wahabbi’s or Ahl-e-Hadith don’t follow any of the 4 schools of Sunni Islam.

You can read about Noorudin’s affiliation to the Ahl-e-Hadith here:  https://ahmadiyyafactcheckblog.com/2017/12/07/maulvi-nooruddin-was-an-ahle-a-hadith-aka-wahhabi-type-of-muslim/

https://ahmadiyyafactcheckblog.com/2018/04/19/the-ulama-of-dar-al-uloom-deoband-and-noorudin/

The data

In his book  “Siratul Mahdi”  Mirza Bashir Ahmad, son of MGA Qadiani, wrote:

“””[In the name of Allah, The Merciful. Hafiz Roshan Ali told me saying: At a time, the promised messiah (MGAQ) asked, for a religious necessity, from Maulvi Noor Uddin to announce that he is belonging to Hanafi Madhab despite he (MGAQ) was knowing that he (Noor Uddin) was belonging to Ahle Hadith. In response to him, Maulvi Noor Uddin wrote, on a paper, a verse of Persian poetry its literal meaning is: If your guide commanded you to dye your place of prayer with wine, you should do; as the guide doesn’t ignore the etiquette of love ways and its traditions. He wrote under it “Hanafi Noor Uddin”]   Siratul Mahdi, narration no. 359.”””

The scan work

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When Noorudin fell off of his pony and lived the last 3 years of his life in misery


Intro

Noorudin died in misery.  His daughter was then immediately married by the Khalifa and extorted, his sons were then kicked out of Ahmadiyya in the 1950’s.

Summary
It was not just that noordin had a few bad days at the end of his life. But according to Tareekh ahmadiyyat vol 3 page 329, he fell from the horse on 18 November 1910, that is the time when all the deterioration and infections started, if you read on TA vol 3, you will read that he spend next 4 years in misery. This is just another strange story from one of the earliest biographies on Ahmadiyya founders. This quotation is from the biography which Noorudin dictated to Akbar Shah Khan of Najibabad before his death. In 1904, during MGA’s life, “Nur ud Din” was published, this book seems to be an extension of that book.

Extended summary
1- After falling from the horse , he had puss in his injuries.
2- He was weak and Doctors said that he had tuberculosis
3- One day he had fallen(on ground) as he had woke up for urine.
4- He had to face pain to climb stairs and use to give lecture to ladies, Even with disease use to give lectures (darss) because he use to say that he use to get “power” from it and use to keep stand for long time.
5- On his getting sick from diseases, Mahmoud Ahmed use lead prayers in his place and also gave the Friday Sermon .
6- Finally he died and was buried in the official Ahmadiyya graveyard bhashtiii muqbirah .

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The ‘Ulama’ of Dar al-‘Uloom Deoband and Noorudin

Intro
We have came across some interesting data in terms of Nooruddin and his affiliations before he went all in with MGA.  Its from a website which represents Deobandi’s.  This new data suggests that Noorudin was formerly a disciple of Shah Abdul Ghani.

The website
http://www.darululoom-deoband.com/english/aboutdarululoom/school_of_thought.htm

The data
He is a direct filial descendent of Seyyidina ‘Umar (radiAllahu ‘anhu), the second Caliph of the Ummah. He was a Hafiz of the Qur’an, and a near-Hafiz of the Sahihayn (Bukhari and Muslim). He had committed the Hajj pilgrimage. He learnt from shuyukh directly in Makkah and Madinah, including Shaykh Shah ‘Abd al-Ghani Mujaddidi, who was in a sanad (chain) of shuyukh going back all the way to the Prophet Muhammad (salAllahu ‘alayhi wa sallam) and including people like Shaykh ‘Abd al-Qadir al-Jilani (rh). This is not my claim, but what the ‘Ulama’ of Dar al-‘Uloom Deoband themselves admit as can be seen here:

He was also a trained Mufti and trained in both Hanafi and Hanbali fiqh (although he was the latter). Allama Iqbal of Pakistan often asked him questions of fiqh. He also adhered to all the physical zhahiri sunnahs as well (turban, fist-length beard, cloak, etc.) Why would such a man be the first ever mureed of the Imam al-Mahdi, Seyyidina Mirza Ghulam Ahmad (as)? Someone asked him that exact question and his reply was that: “Before I could see the Prophet Muhammad (sa) in my dreams. Now I see him while I am alive” (referring to the blessed example of the Ghulam of Ahmad, who was a complete reflection of his master, Seyyidina Muhammad (sa)).

Relates essays
https://ahmadiyyafactcheckblog.com/2017/12/07/maulvi-nooruddin-was-an-ahle-a-hadith-aka-wahhabi-type-of-muslim/

https://ahmadiyyafactcheckblog.com/2018/01/22/the-ahmadi-mullah-maulvi-nooruddin-wanted-to-kill-all-ahmadis-who-ask-that-he-step-down-as-khalifa/

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Noorudin’s comments on Muhammad Ali and Khwaja Kamaluddin

Intro
The split in the Ahmadiyya movement happened in 1914, however, the split started in 1909.  Noorudin was on his death bed by the winter of 1911, and wasn’t able to control all of the Ahmadi’s anymore.  He made some negative comments about Khwaja Kamaludin over the years, however, he also made some positive comments.  They are in the below..

The quotes

In a letter to Khwaja Kamal-ud-Din, dated 19th December 1913, he writes:

“Each and every hair of my body is pleased with you and is engaged in prayer for you.”

In the last of his Friday khutbahs which he was able to deliver, Khalifa 1 defended Khwaja Kamal-ud-Din against the supporters of your Khalifa 2 and said:

“You think ill of others. Khwaja Kamal-ud-Din does not work out of hypocrisy. He works only for Allah. This is my belief about him. Of course, he can make mistakes. I am happy with his works. There is blessing in them. Those who spread mistrust about him are the hypocrites.” (17 October 1913)

“Kamal-ud-Din is a good man. He is doing religious work…. He is engaged in a good work. None of you can compete with him. … Can any of you do the work which Kamal-ud-Din is doing?” (7 November 1913)

More generally, in June 1912 he declared in a speech in Lahore to these critics (supporters of Khalifa 2):

“You should first of all try to make yourselves sincere as they are. The people of Lahore are sincere. They love Hazrat [Mirza Ghulam Ahmad] sahib.”

 

 

Per MGA, Noorudin was worth a 1000 Maulvi Abdul Karim Sialkoti’s

Intro
MGA had a team working with him day and night.  When Maulvi Abdul Karim Sialkoti suddenly died in 1905, MGA got worried.  There is a story from this era wherein the wives of Maulvi Abdul Karim Sialkoti competed for MGA’s attention and love, they both contended that their husband was nearer and dearer to MGA.

The quotes
Hayat-e-Nur p.299

See Hadrhat Maulwi Noorudin by Zafrullah Khan, page 95-96

Some time after the death of Maulawi ‘Abdul Karim, Maulawi Nur-ud-Dinra happened to fall ill.
The Promised Messiahas visited him every day, and on one occasion busied himself with preparing some medicine for him. Hadrat Ummul Mu’minin ra sensing his anxiety and seeking to comfort him observed:

“””Maulawi Burhanuddin has passed away, Maulawi ‘Abdul Karim has died; may Allah, of His mercy, restore Maulawi Sahib speedily to health; whereupon the Promised Messiah affirmed: “This one is the equal of a thousand ‘Abdul Karims.”””

Wherein the wives ofd Nooruddin and Abdul Karim competed

On one occasion Maulawi ‘Abdul Karim’s wife and Maulawi Nur-ud-Din’s wife each contended that her husband was the favourite of the Promised Messiah. They invited his wife, Hadrat Ummul Mu’mininra, to pronounce on the question. She said there was no difficulty, the question could be settled in a trice. She approached the Promised Messiah and began: “Your dearest companion …” He interrupted her and enquired in an agitated tone: “Is anything the matter with Maulawi Nur-ud-Din?”

Links and Related Essays
https://ahmadiyyafactcheckblog.com/2018/03/06/the-life-and-death-of-maulvi-abdul-karim-sialkoti/

https://ahmadiyyafactcheckblog.com/2018/03/06/per-mga-noorudin-was-worth-1000-maulvi-abdul-karim-sialkotis/

https://ahmadiyyafactcheckblog.com/2017/07/24/dr-abdul-hakim-khan-patialvi-mentions-the-death-of-maulvi-abdul-karim-in-his-correspondence-with-mga/

http://www.aaiil.org/text/articles/hope/2008/hope200802_abdulkarimsialkotipromisedmessiah.pdf

https://ahmadiyyafactcheckblog.com/2018/03/08/the-agonizing-death-of-maulvi-abdul-karim-sialkoti-1905/

https://ahmadiyyafactcheckblog.com/2017/06/12/lecture-sialkot-was-delivered-by-maulvi-abdul-kareem-not-mga-1904/

https://ahmadiyyafactcheckblog.com/2016/09/30/maulvi-abdul-kareem-claims-prophethood-per-mga-maulvi-amrohi-disagrees/

https://ahmadiyyafactcheckblog.com/2016/12/24/mirza-ghulam-ahmad-knew-maulvi-abdul-karim-since-the-mid-1860s-in-sialkot/

https://ahmadiyyafactcheckblog.com/2016/10/24/noorudin-and-abdul-karim-were-influenced-by-sir-syed/

https://ahmadiyyafactcheckblog.com/2017/07/17/ahmadiyya-leadership-lied-about-the-first-bait-ceremony-in-1889/

https://ahmadiyyafactcheckblog.com/2017/01/02/mufti-muhammad-sadiq-was-a-student-of-noorudin-pre-1891/

https://ahmadiyyafactcheckblog.com/2017/06/27/maulvi-abdul-kareem-lived-exclusively-with-mga-on-the-3rd-floor-of-mgas-house/

https://ahmadiyyafactcheckblog.com/2018/03/24/the-wife-of-maulvi-abdul-karim-sialkoti-zainab-bibi/

https://ahmadiyyafactcheckblog.com/2017/07/17/how-i-became-an-ahmadi-by-dr-basharat-ahmad-the-famous-lahori-ahmadi-who-wrote-mujadid-e-azam/

https://ahmadiyyafactcheckblog.com/2017/11/25/some-brief-notes-on-the-philosophy-of-the-teachings-of-islam-aka-islami-usool-ki-falasifi-1896/

https://www.alislam.org/r.php?q=Shadi%20Khan

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How Mirza Basheeruddin Mahmud Ahmad killed his own wife, Amtul Hai, the daughter of Noorudin

Intro
Noorudin was the main ghost writer for MGA.  He even moved into MGA’s house around 1893, Nooruddin and his young wife(they married in 1889), they didn’t seem to have kids until 1898 or so.  Which is very odd for a new couple.  There were 5 children in total for Noorudin and Sughra Begum.  The surviving sons of Noorudin were ex-communicated by Mirza Basheer uddin Mahmud Ahmad in 1956.  Noorudin’s daughter from this marriage was married to the new Khalifa in 1914, her name was Amtul Hai (1900-1924), she was barely 14 when she was forcibly bequeathed to the Khalifa, Mirza Basheer uddin Mahmud Ahmad, however, she didn’t have many options, and her father didn’t leave anything behind for this set of children.  In these days, Ahmadiyya leaders officially supported child marriage.  The first part of this story can be found here.

The second part
In the second part of this video, Professor Chaudhary Ghulam Rasool Sahib explains, how the Khalifa murdered his own wife.

The video

Links and Related Essays

https://ahmadiyyafactcheckblog.com/2018/03/01/how-did-mirza-mahmud-ahmad-marry-noorudins-daughter-in-1914-amtul-hai/

https://ahmadiyyafactcheckblog.com/2019/06/04/in-1925-as-the-ahmadiyya-khalifa-married-for-a-4th-time-he-said-that-women-should-not-work/

https://ahmadiyyafactcheckblog.com/2018/03/03/how-mirza-basheeruddin-mahmud-ahmad-killed-his-own-wife-amtul-hai-the-daughter-of-noorudin/

https://ahmadiyyafactcheckblog.com/2018/03/01/how-did-mirza-mahmud-ahmad-marry-noorudins-daughter-in-1914-amtul-hai/

https://ahmadiyyafactcheckblog.com/2017/08/19/who-is-abdul-mannan-omar-the-youngest-son-of-noorudin/

https://ahmadiyyafactcheckblog.com/2018/02/23/mirza-basheer-uddin-mahmud-ahmad-had-20-children-with-7-wives/

https://ahmadiyyafactcheckblog.com/2018/03/04/mirza-ghulam-ahmad-did-adultery-but-his-son-mirza-basheer-uddin-mahmud-ahmad-the-khalifa-did-it-everyday/

Hakeem Noor-ud-Deen – Khalifatul Masih I – The Way of the Righteous

https://ahmadiyyafactcheckblog.com/2018/02/24/amatul-hayee-or-amtul-hai-the-daughter-of-nooruddin-and-the-wife-of-the-2nd-khalifa-mirza-basheer-uddin-mahmud-ahmad-and-her-mysterious-death/

https://www.alislam.org/friday-sermon/printer-friendly-summary-2011-11-18.html

The Establishment of Lajna Ima’illah and the Sacrifices of Early Ahmadi Muslim Women

https://ahmadiyyafactcheckblog.com/2018/03/05/nooruddin-married-off-his-eldest-son-abdul-haye-in-error-in-roughly-the-1906-1908-era/

https://ahmadiyyafactcheckblog.com/2019/06/04/in-1925-as-the-ahmadiyya-khalifa-married-for-a-4th-time-he-said-that-women-should-not-work/

https://ahmadiyyafactcheckblog.com/2018/03/03/how-mirza-basheeruddin-mahmud-ahmad-killed-his-own-wife-amtul-hai-the-daughter-of-noorudin/

https://ahmadiyyafactcheckblog.com/2018/03/01/how-did-mirza-mahmud-ahmad-marry-noorudins-daughter-in-1914-amtul-hai/

https://ahmadiyyafactcheckblog.com/?s=Mannan

https://ahmadiyyafactcheckblog.com/2017/12/07/maulvi-nooruddin-was-an-ahle-a-hadith-aka-wahhabi-type-of-muslim/

https://ahmadiyyafactcheckblog.com/2018/03/05/nooruddin-married-off-his-eldest-son-abdul-haye-in-error-in-roughly-the-1906-1908-era/

https://ahmadiyyafactcheckblog.com/?s=Amtul+Hai

https://ahmadiyyafactcheckblog.com/?s=exclusively

https://ahmadiyyafactcheckblog.com/2018/07/26/fauzia-faizi-confirms-that-the-mirza-family-is-full-of-incest-and-rapists/

https://ahmadiyyafactcheckblog.com/2017/12/07/maulvi-nooruddin-was-an-ahle-a-hadith-aka-wahhabi-type-of-muslim/

The Establishment of Lajna Ima’illah and the Sacrifices of Early Ahmadi Muslim Women

https://ahmadiyyafactcheckblog.com/2018/03/01/some-testimonies-on-the-immoral-life-of-mirza-mahmud-ahmad/

https://ahmadiyyafactcheckblog.com/2017/08/19/who-is-abdul-mannan-omar-the-youngest-son-of-noorudin/

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