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The Sikh National College at Qadian is the old Talim ul Islam Ahmadiyya school

Intro
The old Talim-ul Islam (T.I.) College at Qadian has been used by the Sikhs of Qadian since 1947 as the Sikh National College. Filming has begun on “Kali Jotta”, an upcoming Punjabi film featuring @neerubajwa, @SufiSartaaj and @GabbiWamiqa as lead characters. The movie is currently being filmed at Sikh National College in Qadian.
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Why did the famous Khan Abdul Ghaffar Khan go to the Talim ul Islam High School in Qadian?

Intro
We have came across the biography of India’s freedom fighter Khan Abdul Ghaffar Khan. It is in Hindi. On page 15 he writes that he and his friend went to live in Qadian to pursue education. During his stay he had a dream in which he saw that he has fallen in a beautiful deep well. An individual comes to his his help and extends his hand to pull him out of the well and rescues him. That individual look at Mr. Khan with surprise and asks him ‘Dont you see this well, why do you want to throw yourself into it?” The next morning he narrated this dream to his friend and they both decided to leave Qadian.

He wasn’t the only famous Muslim who went to school in Qadian, the son of Allama Iqbal also went, and 2 of Batalvi’s son’s were forcibly taken to Qadian in 1910. More to come.

The Talim ul Islam High School was shut down by the British government in roughly 1904. Most of the teachers were corrupt anyways, they would always pass the sons of MGA and Ahmadi students.

By 1909, the British government gave the Ahmadiyya movement 250,000 rupees to build a building and house most of their students.
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Links and Related Essay’s

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Abdul_Ghaffar_Khan#Early_years

https://ahmadiyyafactcheckblog.com/2019/02/10/what-is-the-talim-ul-islam-high-school-college-at-qadian-and-later-at-rabwah/

https://ahmadiyyafactcheckblog.com/2017/06/30/the-british-govt-donated-25000-rupees-for-the-talim-ul-islam-high-school-in-qadian-in-1909/

https://ahmadiyyafactcheckblog.com/2018/03/31/batalvis-children-were-brought-to-qadian-by-force/

https://ahmadiyyafactcheckblog.com/2018/03/30/ahmadi-teachers-at-the-talim-ul-islam-high-school-were-corrupt-they-would-pass-mirza-basheer-uddin-mahmud-ahmad-even-when-he-failed/

https://ahmadiyyafactcheckblog.com/2017/01/09/homosexuality-was-rampant-at-the-talim-ul-islam-high-school-in-1903-thus-it-was-shut-down/

https://ahmadiyyafactcheckblog.com/2020/01/28/the-british-government-created-the-indian-air-training-course-iat-in-qadian-at-the-t-i-college-in-the-1940s/

https://ahmadiyyafactcheckblog.com/2019/02/10/who-is-maulvi-sher-ali-1875-1947/

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Noor_Hospital

Click to access talimul.pdf

http://alhafeez.org/rashid/fatwa27.html

https://ahmadiyyafactcheckblog.com/2019/03/05/in-1935-the-ahmadiyya-khalifa-lashed-out-at-jamia-students-and-even-called-them-pigs/

https://ahmadiyyafactcheckblog.com/2019/01/14/who-is-syed-muhammad-hussain-batalvi-1840-1920/

https://ahmadiyyafactcheckblog.com/2018/03/30/ahmadi-teachers-at-the-talim-ul-islam-high-school-were-corrupt-they-would-pass-mirza-basheer-uddin-mahmud-ahmad-even-when-he-failed/

https://ahmadiyyafactcheckblog.com/2016/10/13/ahmadiyya-missionaries-are-sent-to-russia-illegally/

https://ahmadiyyafactcheckblog.com/2017/01/09/fast-times-at-qadian-high-adultery-and-immorality-of-mahmud-ahmad-and-company/

1-7 November

https://ahmadiyyafactcheckblog.com/2017/06/30/the-british-govt-donated-25000-rupees-for-the-talim-ul-islam-high-school-in-qadian-in-1909/

https://ahmadiyyafactcheckblog.com/2018/03/31/batalvis-children-were-brought-to-qadian-by-force/

http://aaiil.org/uk/newsletters/2010/thelightuk201006.pdf

http://www.reviewofreligions.org/wp-content/pdf-downloads/RR200211.pdf

http://www.reviewofreligions.org/265/muslim-fasting/

http://www.reviewofreligions.org/wp-content/pdf-downloads/RR190707.pdf#page=19

http://www.reviewofreligions.org/wp-content/pdf-downloads/RR199007.pdf#page=5

http://www.reviewofreligions.org/wp-content/pdf-downloads/RR198707.pdf#page=28

https://ahmadiyyafactcheckblog.com/2018/02/24/amatul-hayee-or-amtul-hai-the-daughter-of-nooruddin-and-the-wife-of-the-2nd-khalifa-mirza-basheer-uddin-mahmud-ahmad-and-her-mysterious-death/

https://www.alislam.org/v/6100.html

https://ahmadiyyafactcheckblog.com/2018/12/25/mirza-ghulam-ahmad-vs-molana-muhammad-hussain-batalvi-and-muslims-leaders-in-british-india-in-august-of-1891/

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What is the Talim-ul-Islam-High School (college) at Qadian and later at Rabwah?

Intro
This was the school that MGA started in 1897. They tried to turn it into a College in 1904, but the British government shut it down officially in 1907. It operated as a young men’s school (Jamia and Madrassa) and housing area from 1907 to 1944. Remember, in 1909, the British government built the biggest building in the history of Qadian as they donated 25,000 rupees to the Ahmadiyya Movement at Qadian. This allowed the Ahmadiyya movement to purchase 50 acres of land as Noorudin ordered the building of the College, with hostel space, the first Jamia and the famous Nur Hospital and the famous Nur Mosque. From 1913 to 1922, the annual Jalsa Salana’s were held at the Noor mosque (See ROR of Jan-1947). The ROR of Jan-1947 alleges that in 1922, the number of guests rose to 7000-8000 and thus, a new location was needed to hold the Jalsa. Thus, from 1922 onwards, a Pandal was prepared annaually in front of the T.I. Highschool (in the spacious open field outside of the city limits of Qadian). The ROR alleges that in 1945, 1944 and 1943, 34,000 people attended the Jalsa at Qadian, this would be during WW-2.

If it wasn’t for the British government this huge facility would have never been built. The ROR of June-1915 alleges that the buildings and site costed 75,000, oh which Ahmadi’s have given 40,000 rupees and the British Government the remaining 35,000. It reports that there are 400 students of which half are living in the attached hostel. Ahmadiyya sources claim that this school is an english school and attached to the accreditation of the Punjab University. The British Government is paying 400 rupees per month for the maintenance of these facilities. In fact, the attached hostel costed an additional 60,000 rupees, of which the British Government paid half, it is alleged that the Ahmadiyya Movement paid the other 30,000 rupees (which is a lie, the British most likely paid for everything). Carpentry and tailoring is also taught at this school.

The ROR of February-1916 reports that the Ahmadiyya missionary training Madrassa was opened in late 1914. It also reports that 400 children are currently enrolled at the Ahmadiyya High school. It claims that the Ahmadiyya Madrassa is an arabic and theology school combined. It also claims to be managed by the Sadr Anjuman at Qadian.

In roughly 1944, the British government opened up the Indian Air Training Course (IAT) in Qadian at the T.I. College in the 1940’s, this was the first ever pilot training center outside of the UK. The ROR of Nov-1946 alleges that the Qadiani-Ahmadi’s have about 30 schools in British-India. They allege that the Talim-ul-Islam Highschool at Qadian has 1700 students and has been raised to a degree college. They also allege that the Madrassa-i-Ahmadiyya, Jamia Ahmadiyya and Jamia Nusrat have been raised up to a degree college. All of the institutions at Qadian are listed.

It opened at Rabwah after partition and was referred to as T.I. College. In Qadian, the old building that used to house the T.I. College is now the The Sikh National College at Qadian, since 1947-1950 era.


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Ahmadi teachers at the Talim ul Islam High School were corrupt, they would pass Mirza Basheer-uddin Mahmud Ahmad, even when he failed

Intro
Ahmadiyya is a total fraud.  MGA and his family were all dummies and idiots who had no academic ability at all.  MGA’s precious “promised-son” aka Musleh Maud was a bad child, he never did anything good in his whole life, he lived the life of the son of a prophet, and indulged in women, men, drugs and everything Haraam.  In this specific reference, we have found Ahmadi-Mullahs admitting that they falsified records and passed Mirza Basheer-uddin Mahmud Ahmad even when he failed in school.  He was a student at the newly built Talim ul Islam School at Qadian, which was shut down by 1904 and never officially re-started until 1947, in Lahore.   It should be understood that Middle = eighth class age would be, about 13-14 years. Next level in pakistan, after 2 years – is interence = age of 15-16 years. another 2 years of study = FA. And another 2 years of study =BA.  Furthermore, Mirza Basheer ud Din Mahmud Ahmad had a math teacher named Master Faqeerullah Sahib. Master Faqeerullah Sahib made a complaint about Mirza Basheer ud Din Mahmud Ahmad to MGA, saying, “‘He remains absent from school and only comes occasionally.’””” However, when MGA heard this, he said to Master Sahib, ‘It is very kind of you that you show concern for him, however I am very pleased to learn that he occasionally attends because according to me, his health is not good enough for him to study at all.’ Following this, MGA smiled and said, ‘We are not teaching him mathematics in the hope of him opening a local shop. It makes no difference whether he learns mathematics or not.’ He then said ‘What level of mathematics did the Holy Prophetsa and his Companions study? It is good if he attends school, but if he does not, he should not be forced.’

The story

Alfazal 2 October 1935

“””At the occasion of Nikah of Mirza Mahmood to Maryam Sidiqa daughter of Mir Mohammed Ismaeel(brother of nusrat) Mufti M Sadiq announces the Nikah and it is a long one but on page 2 Mufti sadiq says (Masih Maood instructed me to learn Ibrani Language. There was written in sacred books of Ibrani, that first Masih did not marry (Hazrat eisa AS) but 2nd masih will marry and will have siblings, and his son will be his successor. Since that time i knew that you shall be Khalifa. People who rejected your khilafat are very unfortunate. Today blessings of Khilafat are appearing like the sun. Today, for the propagation of Islam, the missionaries are spread in all the countries, and the work is done in such a way, Islamic history of thousand years cannot show that example. All this is being achieved with the blessing of that one pure soul (mirza ghulam). Allah granted everything to you himself. Hazrat Masih was not student of any one. The same away you (mirza mahmood) were not student of any teacher. There is not doubt that you used to go to school, and you were my (mufti sadiq) student too, I was the headmaster in those days or moulvi sher Ali was the headmaster (here mufti sadiq is not sure who was the head master) you used to come to school those days, but you would FAIL every year but we used to promote you to the next year because you were the son of hazrat masih maood. You took an exam of Middle and i went with you, but you fail, then you took an exam of interenc and again you failed”””

The scans

Links and Related Essays
https://ahmadiyyafactcheckblog.com/2017/06/30/the-british-govt-donated-25000-rupees-for-the-talim-ul-islam-high-school-in-qadian-in-1909/

Musleh-e-Maud: The Prophecy and its Fulfillment

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Noor_Hospital

Click to access talimul.pdf

http://alhafeez.org/rashid/fatwa27.html

https://ahmadiyyafactcheckblog.com/2019/03/05/in-1935-the-ahmadiyya-khalifa-lashed-out-at-jamia-students-and-even-called-them-pigs/

https://ahmadiyyafactcheckblog.com/2019/01/14/who-is-syed-muhammad-hussain-batalvi-1840-1920/

https://ahmadiyyafactcheckblog.com/2018/03/30/ahmadi-teachers-at-the-talim-ul-islam-high-school-were-corrupt-they-would-pass-mirza-basheer-uddin-mahmud-ahmad-even-when-he-failed/

https://ahmadiyyafactcheckblog.com/2016/10/13/ahmadiyya-missionaries-are-sent-to-russia-illegally/

https://ahmadiyyafactcheckblog.com/2017/01/09/fast-times-at-qadian-high-adultery-and-immorality-of-mahmud-ahmad-and-company/

https://ahmadiyyafactcheckblog.com/2017/06/30/the-british-govt-donated-25000-rupees-for-the-talim-ul-islam-high-school-in-qadian-in-1909/

https://ahmadiyyafactcheckblog.com/2018/03/31/batalvis-children-were-brought-to-qadian-by-force/

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The British Govt. donated 25,000 rupees for the Talim ul Islam High School in Qadian in 1909

Intro
We all know how governments fund different programs and etc. For example, in the USA, ever since Trump took over, he has de-funded all programs that he seems to disagree with and has allocated funds in areas that he agrees with. In British-India, the british govt. supported all organizations that seemed to support colonialism. MGA’s father was heavily supported by the British Govt. and was seen as a major ally in the region. The British govt. always gave MGA a chair in court and always made MGA out to be innocent, even when he was obviously guilty. Even in 1904, MGA had clearly lost his case in court (the one time a hindu judge heard his case) and was due to be sentenced to prison, however, he made bail and won the case on appeal, since the appeals judge was a Britisher who knew about MGA and the promises that were made to his family. Moreover, the British governement gave MGA many months of personal security and coverage as MGA toured the Punjab in 1903–1905.

The ROR of June-1915 alleges that the buildings and site costed 75,000, oh which Ahmadi’s have given 40,000 rupees and the British Government the remaining 35,000. It reports that there are 400 students of which half are living in the attached hostel. Ahmadiyya sources claim that this school is an english school and attached to the accreditation of the Punjab University. The British Government is paying 400 rupees per month for the maintenance of these facilities. In fact, the attached hostel costed an additional 60,000 rupees, of which the British Government paid half, it is alleged that the Ahmadiyya Movement paid the other 30,000 rupees (which is a lie, the British most likely paid for everything). Carpentry and tailoring is also taught at this school.

The ROR of February-1916 reports that the Ahmadiyya missionary training Madrassa was opened in late 1914. It also reports that 400 children are currently enrolled at the Ahmadiyya High school. It claims that the Ahmadiyya Madrassa is an arabic and theology school combined. It also claims to be managed by the Sadr Anjuman at Qadian. Continue reading “The British Govt. donated 25,000 rupees for the Talim ul Islam High School in Qadian in 1909”

Homosexuality was rampant at the Talim ul Islam High School in 1903, thus it was shut down

Intro
The Highschool/middle school was started in Qadian in 1898, and Mahmud Ahmad entered as a student.  Mahmud Ahmad was married at the age of 11-12 (1900-1901 era), he had lots of support from home, Noorudin worked around the clock to help him and other Ahmadi-mullahs would tutor him as needed. Even when he failed, the corrupt Ahmadi mullahs, Sher Ali and Mufti Sadiq would pass him. Nonetheless, he was a terrible student as a matter of fact, he would go on to fail his matriculation examination at the age of 15 and was thus done with all studying by 1903. We have to think that this allegation and Mahmud Ahmad’s failure at matriculating caused this school to close down. Mahmud Ahmad most likely engaged in some homsexual behaviors while he was there, in fact, many years later he was accused of raping men and women.

In Qadian, Mirza Ghulam Ahmad was allowed to be intimately touched by all women and men. #Ahmadis were told it was OK, they told it was a method of getting blessings (barkat), even in 2021, #ahmadis regularly eat the left-over food of the Khalifa, Mirza Masroor Ahmad. In fact, MGA had the revelation that “kings will seek blessings from thy garments”. Moreover, MGA had women in his private chambers all night, MGA would wake them in the morning by sprinkling water on their face.

In this essay, we wanted to highlight MGA’s behaviors with small girls, pre-pubescent girls. We have one story in the below from Seeratul Mahdi (1923) wherein a man named Maulvi Abdul Qadir seems to have sent his daughter to massage MGA. MGA even told her that one day she would brag about her private time with MGA. Her name was Safiya Begum, in 1923, she was some type of teacher and had her story archived with Mirza Bashir Ahmad in Seeratul Mahdi. We estimate that she was 6-7 years old in 1905 and thus, 23-25 in 1923 when she gave the story. Another silly Ahmad, Ghulam Muhammad Qadiani admits that his wife went to service MGA when she was only 15.

There are other stories of MGA having women taking baths in-front of him in Darul Zikr. We also know that Barkat Bibi told Mirza Ghulam Ahmad about pain in her vagina. We have presented many quotations in the below which prove that MGA always kept toilet attendants who also worked as masseuses.

Interestingly enough, Mahmud Ahmad was accused of the same crimes in 1906, he had some type of affair with the daughter of a male-attendant of MGA. Between 1927 and 1937, several members within the community began to allege that Mahmood Ahmad was involved in acts of sexual impropriety. To exonerate himself of these accusations, Mahmood Ahmad stated:

“”””To advance an objection against me even though that objection be true makes a man enter hell””” (AL-FAZL, 4 NOV. 1927).

In 1935, the Khalifa, Mirza Basheer-ud-Din Mahmud Ahmad described his father as a bon-vivant. He was in court and dealing with a Hindu Judge, Justice Khosla (see page 122), this judge dealt with ahmadiyya fairly and called it fangled and disturbing, he made many other comments about sex drugs and etc. This had happened before, almost all the Hindu judges who saw a case involving MGA, they found him guilty, however, in all of these cases, MGA would win on appeal, either that or a British judge would exonerate MGA (see the story of abdul hameed being sent for murder). Even the Lahori-Ahmadi’s weighed in and condemned the behaviors of the Qadiani Khalifa.  Muhammad Ali commented on the matter here and seemed taken aback by the behaviors of his former colleagues (see page 3). Continue reading “Homosexuality was rampant at the Talim ul Islam High School in 1903, thus it was shut down”

A Day at Qadian in 1921

Intro
The ROR of March-1921 as an essay about “A Day at Qadian” by P.B. The same article is reproduced in the Moslem Sunrise of Oct-1921. It is unknown who “P.B. is, however, this article only discusses the amount of students in Qadian (700), most likely at the T.I. High School, elementary school, College and Madrassa. The Minaratul Masih is also mentioned. The Nur Hospital is also mentioned as a tiny place.

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Links and Related Essay’s

vol_01_july_1921-oct_1922.tif (muslimsunrise.com)

What is the Talim-ul-Islam-High School (college) at Qadian and later at Rabwah? – ahmadiyyafactcheckblog

The story of Minaratul Masih and Ahmadiyya – ahmadiyyafactcheckblog

The Noor hospital at Qadian, built by Noorudin – ahmadiyyafactcheckblog

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Who is Lala Malawamal?

Intro
Lala Malawamal (aka Lalah Malawamal Khatri, see Haqiqatul Wahy) seems to have been a long time resident of Qadian, India. He was a member of the local hindu community, the Arya Samaj of Qadian. He was mentioned by MGA in Barahin-Ahmadiyya Vol. 4 (1882-1884 era), MGA even explained how he would go out for walks in and around Qadian with Lala Malawamal. MGA called him and his friend Lalah Sharampat as the 2 hindu’s of Qadian who would come and regularly visit MGA and etc. MGA even alleged to have miraculously cured Lala Malawamal from tuberculosis. MGA went to explain how Lala Malawamal saw a revelation that MGA received and saw other signs. MGA specifically mentioned how Lala Malawamal getting money from the post office and a handsome son, aka the promised son aka musleh maud. In Haqiqatul Wahy, MGA mentions a 3rd hindu, Bishandas Brahman, MGA said, wherever the term Aryas occurs in Barahin-e-Ahmadiyya these alone are meant; others too are meant elsewhere. MGA also claims that Lalah Sharampat and Lala Malawamal were the witnesses in this famous revelation, that became a ring that All Ahmadi’s wear, “Is Allah not sufficient for his servant”. MGA also claims that he prophecied the death of his father (Mirza Ghulam Murtaza) and these 2 were the witnesses. (See “Qadian Kei Aryah Aur Hamm”, in english it would be “The Aryas of Qadian”). MGA also alleges that he prophecied the assassination of Dayanand, and Lalah Sharampat was the witness.

However, Lalah Sharampat and Lala Malawamal were illiterate and barely understood what MGA was saying, thus, MGA used them in a deceptive and thought that no one would try to audit these witnesses. As soon as the prophecy was announced by him, Sharampat whom he had quoted as a witness, declared: “Ghulam Ahmad is a liar and an anti -Christ. I never heard this prophecy from him (See Anthology of Pandit Lakhram Takzib·i· Baraheen-i Ahmadiyya, via “Qadiyaniat: an analytical survey” by Ehsan Elahi Zaheer (1984) 21st edition free download – ahmadiyyafactcheckblog).

By 1906, these same 2 Hindu’s were able to communicate to MGA and his gathering at Qadian (an alleged Jalsa) that MGA was lying and these two Hindu’s had never seen any signs at all. This caused MGA and his team to write, “Qadian Kei Aryah Aur Hamm” (Feb-20-1907).

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Who is Khurshid Begum?

Intro
She was the only child of MGA’s famous cousin (Mirza Imam ud Din) and his wife (her name is unknown). She seems to have married her first cousin/neighbor and MGA’s eldest son, Mirza Sultan Ahmad in the mid 1880’s. This is interesting since Mirza Sultan Ahmad was the Chief of Qadian in that era (Rais), and thus MGA’s cousins also held this honor and beefed with MGA over the Muhammadi Begum saga.

Ahmadiyya only sources claim that she converted to Ahmadiyya in MGA’s lifetime. Ahmadiyya sources totally lie and claim that she converted to Ahmadiyya before her marriage with Mirza Sultan Ahmad. These are all lies, her father Mirza Imam ud Din died by 1904, this was the era wherein her sons Mirza Aziz Ahmad and Mirza Rashid Ahmad seem to have converted to Ahmadiyya, most likely because they had no money.

By 1906 (or 1935), MGA was calling the mother of Khurshid Begum as a prostitute. Mirza Aziz Ahmad confirmed (See ROR of Oct-1942) that by 1905, none of MGA’s relatives had accepted Ahmadiyya (see the full quote in the below). In fact, the Punjab Chiefs of 1909 admitted to the same, the cousins of MGA had not accepted him (see the full quote in the below).

Via the ROR of Oct-1942, Mirza Aziz Ahmad claims that after he did bait in 1906, his father Mirza Sultan Ahmad came home and his grandmother told him that his son had gotten into the bait with Mirza Ghulam Ahmad. Mirza Sultan Ahmad is alleged to have said that maybe he will pray now. Mirza Aziz Ahmad then alleges that his grandmother (Hurmat Bibi) finally did bait in 1916, he was working in Simla, when he came home, he asked his grandma in jest as to what had overtaken her? Why did she now convert to Ahmadiyya? She simply laughed. This was written by Mirza Aziz Ahmad in 1938 and signed off by him.

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