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Mirza Ghulam Ahmad did adultery, but his son, Mirza Basheer-uddin Mahmud Ahmad, the Khalifa did it everyday

Intro
We have came across some information in terms of Mirza Basheer-uddin Mahmud Ahmad, the Khalifa, and the Lahori-Ahmadis.  The Khalifa claims to have been sent a letter from some anonymous Lahori-Ahmadi wherein they accuse the Khalifa of committing adultery on a daily basis.  The reference is from: Page 6 of Alfazl 31 Aug 1938

Summary of this quote
Refrence from al fazl says mirza qadiyani had committed adultery here and there, whereas Mirza Mahmood commits adultery all the times.

Mahmud Ahmad also says in this letter
” and from this accusation, you can tell that this person ( accuser) is a peghami ( literally a messenger, aka a Lahori-Ahmadi) that he had this kind of view about the promised Messiah”

Related essays
https://ahmadiyyafactcheckblog.com/?s=Hai

The letter

Arya Dharam, Pages 1-9

Intro
Dear readers, we have found a blog wherein some people have tried to translate MGA’s book “Arya Dharam“.  Taken from here: https://ahmadiyyabooks.wordpress.com/arya-dharam/

Related Essays
https://ahmadiyyafactcheckblog.com/2018/09/30/arya-dharam-or-the-arya-religion-1895-by-mirza-ghulam-ahmad/

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Arya Dharam rk-10-30

Mirza Ghulam Ahmad Qadiani

In the name of Allah the Most Merciful Most Benevolent

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We thank God who is Kareem and Raheem a thousand times, who sent a Holy Book like Quran Majeed and Revered Khatam-ul-Anbiya chief of earlier and the later for reforming the world and taught humanity again to barbaric men filled the hearts of millions with light of Imaan and good deeds. When we ponder on what was considered Religion before Islam and what deeds were considered desirable then we appreciate the countless blessings of Islam. Who does not know that the beliefs of deeds of other religions are all detestable and shameful. They don’t depict the true God in their books Who is evident in the surrounding nature but present a new and artificial God that is made up of their thoughts. Thus some consider humans as their God and some bow before stones and some don’t believe in the God in the first place. And there are some who accept God but don’t consider Him Creator of soul and matter and Provider and Initiator of all blessings. But they consider every living being protector of itself and every soul benefactor of its powers. Even they consider the life of every insect as Old and Original and existing by itself in a manner that it does not God for its survival and

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are ignorant of the Perfect and Light of the lights other than Whom no being is real. Alas these people don’t think that is He Who is the Originator of every blessing, Sustainer of every life, Pillar of every power and Supporter of every being. And by these meanings we are compelled to accept this God. So it is his benevolence and blessing that He found the word in darkness, ignorance and incomprehension and sent a light. The light, whose name is Muhammad (peace be upon him) came to this world, and the holy word of God, Holy Quran was bestowed upon him and he guided us to the paths of theoretical and practical piety. So countless blessings and prayers on that magnificent prophet and his followers and companions who pulled millions out of darkness and saved from filthy beliefs, shameful deeds and detestable traditions.

اللھم صل علیہ و الہ و بارک و سلم امین

The reason for writing this short pamphlet is that long long ago I heard that Pandit Diyanand is emphasizing in his books that people must practice the tradition of nyog in their wives, daughters and daughters-in-law. I did not took these seriously and thought it would have been a mere allegation of opponents. How is it possible that noble people will ask their chaste women to have sex with other males just for the desire of kids. But very secretly I kept on asking the Ariyas that what is this. They used to plainly refuse but I observed that some shame was evident from their faces, like they are facing a great amount of embarrassment. However, it was not enough for may to express an opinion based upon only such connotations. In the meanwhile, in 1886 or 1887, I found a periodical of some Brahman that he wrote with reference to Sathiarath Parkash about Niyog. It was clearly written in this periodical that, for the sake of children, a woman, having alive husbandfootnote: Our purposes of writing this paper are only two, (1) how can such a book, i.e., Vedas that has so filthy contents, can be from God? (2) that the people of this country should be cautioned and avoid such sinful rituals. Further, the government which has forbidden Sati and Jal Parwa for the physical welfare of the country, should  ban such a dirty custom to promote civilization.

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perform Niyog. That means that she can have sexual intercourse with another person till the time she gets pregnancy from a stranger. I have read this paper with great attention but the truth is that I did not believe in that write up. I thought may be this paper is distributed by Pandit Agni Hotri and I have been hearing that there is great animosity between him and the Ariyas. So may be Pandit Sb would have exaggerated because of the hostility.  But when I see references from Satiarath Parkash in it my thoughts get tilted to the fact that how is it possible that a reliable person will take a blame because of fake references. Nevertheless, I could not make a satisfactory decision. Then I came to know through a newspaper about some renowned Pandits of Calcutta who are very aggressive supporter of Niyog. But even then I thought that Calcutta is very far from us so some journalist might have added some fabrication into it. Finally, it came to my heart that we should listen to the books of Pundit Diyanand by ourselves. Moreover, it was considered fair that if Mr Diyanand has given just his personal opinion and have not given any reference of Vedas then there cannot be a real blame on Ariya religion. Vedas will only be condemned  if that dirty teaching is is also find in the book which is considered divine. So I made this criterion and arranged books of Mr Diyanand. As it is heard that the first edition of Satiarath Parkash is not accepted by Ariyas so the decisions was to be based on the second edition of Satiarath Parkash. Thus that book was called in the congregation and one person from our Jamaat started reading from page 113 and got to this place:

Writing of Mr Diyanand with Translation:

“نہیں نہیں ۔ کیونکہ جو استری پرش برہم چرج میں استسہتہ رہنا چاہے تو کوٰی بھی اپدرو نہ ہوگا اور جو کل کی پر سپرا رکھنے کے لیے کسی اپنے سوجاتی کا لڑکا گود میں لے لیں گے اس سے کل چلیگا اور وبہی چار نہ ہو گا اور جو برہم چرج نہ کرسکیں تو نیوگ کر کے سنتان ات پت کرلیں۔”

That is in case of infertility second marriage is not at all allowed. Nor it is required because there are two solutions that eradicate the need of marriage. One

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a man whose wife has died or a woman whose husband has died, they should become monks that is they both should live in solitude and for the sake of progeny should adapt a boy. That boy will continue the family and at the same time will prevent adultery (i.e., niyog will not be required) but if they cannot become monks and cannot control the desire then marriage must not be done at any cost. Yes they can release the desire by niyog as well as can get offspring.

This instruction is for widow or widowed when the woman died or that man has died then it is like God has finished the institution of family. Now stay single and be happy, you had marriage for a certain time and enjoyed so now live without it. And if sexual desire presses you and you are not able to control then don’t take name of marriage because it is forbidden by Vedas. Yes, the man should quietly have relation with another woman or the woman should have relation with another man and if that does not help, then second or third, even if the number goes to ten, does not matter at all because it is allowed by the Vedas. And this is the actual practice which is called Niyog in Holy Vedas. Marriage and polygamy is nothing in front of this practice. This is a wonderful procedure that wife after the death of husband and husband after the death of wife should pretend to be monk. And lust play went so well that married couples are left behind because a married woman is in the custody of just one husband. But Niyog has such a wonderful phenomenon that she can get a new lover every night andfootnote: The statement of Mr Pundit that there will be no harm that  is by living hermit and adapting the child – the kid will come for free and adultery will not be required. The statement clearly proves that Mr Pundit also considers Niyog as adultery in his heart; otherwise if meaning of  Niyog is not adultery then why did put such a restriction in case of not practicing Niyog. It seems that his conscience compelled him to utter this word which is different to his other statements.note: If Niyog is not for lust mongering then why it was not sufficient to adapt a boy.

* The speech tells us that Niyog can only be done for lust but there should be so much lust that it results into a baby.

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there is not shortage of babies at the same time there is freedom and no restraint.

When this place from Satiarath Parkash was read in my congregation some friends said impromptu this is clear fornication because when their is not contract of marriage and the child is not adapted because real purpose is sexual gratification and that desire is not fulfilled through marriage then what is this other than fornication. Some also said that by this method of Niyog the widow also has the right if after intercourse with another male she finds the semen to be dilute then she can sleep in the after noon with some other priest and if the one in afternoon has the same problem and cannot satisfy in a manner that may lead to pregnancy then she should have coitus withe someone else in the evening and if the evening guy is also weak then she should lie in front another youth in the night. So the woman which sleeps with four different men in the same day without permissible contract of marriage and is not fornicator then there is no such thing as fornication in the world. And think carefully when both man and woman agree they don’t have any relation of marriage then everyone can understand that such a contact should be called what. What is the difference in this and the occupation of a prostitute. So focus on the fact there is no marriage contract here.

But I did not agree with my friends even at this point and thought that yes, adultery is proven but maybe Pundit Diyanand might have erred while explaining this issue. And may be the Veda says that the widow can marry by her will but when my friends read it again and again explicitly and we pondered a lot. Then this became certain that second marriage is totally forbidden in Hindu religion. When there is no marriage then this Niyog is fornication in other words. But my person did not want to base an allegation on the Niyog of a widow. Thus I said, read further, till we reached the place where the Veda of Aryas instruct the woman with a live husband that in case of no kids she can have intercourse with other man.

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At this point every respectable person was taken aback and all said tauba tauba that such teaching is also existing in the world that stoops its followers lower than where they are instead of teaching civilization and chastity and destroy their abstinence. My heart suffered a big shock at that time and I was about to cry with loud groan for people whose book has such a teaching, even they object the noble teaching of Islam and criticize the issue of polygamy, despite being happy with adultery, which is practiced because of same needs which have led these nations to adultery. Critique and laughter on noble practice and happiness on disrespect and deceitfully call others sperms as own sperms that this is my progeny.  It is just to kill the truth, grace, shame and respect, but I swallowed that grief inside myself and sought to advise the Aryans of Qadian being my neighbors. Thus I called four Aryans to a congregation and presented the particular section from Satiarath Parakash and ask the reality of Niyog. Then firstly some of them objected the book saying it is the first edition which is false and when they were told and shown that this is the same second edition then they thought in their hearts who can read the it among the Muslims, being nagriscripture. Thus some cleverly replied that Niyog is just for the widow and changed its actual details so that the practice does not look similar to fornication. Alas, when those filthy statements were read about married women they did were not embarrassed rather some said we accept this type of Niyog. So we kept silent after listening to their shameful talk. Finally, general sympathy boiled in us and that divine enthusiasm compelled us to publish and ad so that some truth seeker might benefit. Thus we published and ad regarding Niyog on July 31, 1895 just for the sake of general public. And God knows our intention of publishing that ad was nothing else other than

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the wish that our neighbor Aryans should refrain from such shameful act and should not pollute their wives with such a dirty practice. Rather they should have some grace and fear of God to disassociate from such a teaching that ruins shame, honor and respect  because what could be more disgrace to an honorable person that his married wife and queen of family, while being called his woman   in his life and in his wedlock, should have intercourse with someone else; such a person should die by shame that a stranger copulates with his wife in front of his eyes and he keeps quite. Because of these reasons we were hopeful that as we written this ad with incredible sympathy and sincerity similarly the Aryans will read our add with care and fairness and will tryfootnote:بسم اللہ الرحمن الرحیم ۔ قد افلح من زکھا

If somebody loves the Pure – he gets Him only if he purifies

An Important Ad for the Attention of Aryans

Sine the book Minanur Rahman is being published by me now from the Zia-ul-Islam publishers Qadian and in this book we will have to discuss the issue of Niyog of Aryans and normal Hindus in a chapter  thus I thought it appropriate that I should debate with some Arya acquaintances through this ad and then write this issue in my book. If they can explain me the reasoning of this issue then I will refrain from writing because in my view the belief of Niyog is such a shameful beleif that while explaining it footnote: I have written this book for research and analysis of the languages of the world. The synopsis of the book is that only Arabic is the language that given to man through the wahi and ilham of the Almighty  God and it is  the ummulsinah, i.e., the mother of the languages. And not only that all the langauges are derived from this but in this book I have

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to get rid of this monster. They can ask us if they cannot understand any point. Or if they believe that we have written anything against the reality they will show us our mistake with reference to the Bhomka of Pundit Diyanand and Vedas. And will convict us and will publish their true research along with verses of Vedas and Bhaash of Pundit Diyanand.
footnote continued:

we should used civilized style but because of the filthy nature of the topic we have to write some inappropriate stuff. I don’t want that people should say something later on, rather I would like if anyone has an explanation then he should present now. I would gladly listen to the explanation and will accept it if I find it acceptable, because here we don’t want selfishness but expression of truth. Now I write below important question

Question

O Aryans, you guys know that Pundit Diyanand has,  with reference to Shurtis, written a type of Niyog (1) while giving its details that if a man impotent enough to beget a child then he should allow his wife to get children from someone else. Then the person who gets permission will have intercourse wiht his in the same house where the husband lives. And that will not happen once, rather he can have sex with her for many years, till 10 kids are born. At the same time the women is commanded to continue to serve her husband and the consequence is that the shameless husband.. is bound to live in that house with whose wife a stranger is having sex day and night, in front of his eyes. footnote: also proven that this is the only language that is full of pure and ideal faculties and other languages are dumped into a pit of pollution and darkness. Thus they are not at all capable enough that the perfect and comprehensive Word of God is sent in those, because the shallowness, faults and defective prose cannot sustain the supernatural burden of Divine wisdom. Thus it has been decided with great clarity and with illuminated arguments that the pure,  perfect, bright, insightful and wise Word of God that … has come to this word for eternal guidance.

(1) Aryans might say that this is not adultery, but in a state when husband is present and son will also be attributed to him and women will also be called his wife and divorce has not happened then if it is not adultery then what is this? And Munnoo says, that the husband has the right to have coitus during Niyog.

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“Arya Dharam” or “The Arya Religion” (1895) by Mirza Ghulam Ahmad

Intro
This is an interesting book, we haven’t totally evaluated it yet.  However, it seems to have lots of controversial information.  MGA wrote about the child-marriage of Aisha and many other related topics.  The Arya Samaj hindus seem to have written an analysis of the marriages of Muhammad (saw).  MGA and his team responded with “The Arya Religion” (1895).  The second edition of this book was published in 1903.  This was a small part in the overall beef that MGA started with the Arya Samaj in the early 1880’s.  Lekh Ram came soon thereafter.  In this book, MGA complained that his God and prophet were being unnecessarily ridiculed and it should be against the law, however, MGA himself insulted the God of Christians in this very, in fact, he used Hindu writings vs. Jesus Christ as he called him a drunkard and a fornicator.  In this book, MGA seems to have endorsed the concept of Nikah-Muta and abrogation.

Some quotes
“Pregnant woman  having been divorced should abstain from marrying another man because if she does, it is possible that she is pregnant again which may harm the earlier pregnancy. (Ariah Dharm page 21, Roohani Khazain volume 10 page 21)

•”Thieves and professional dishonest…” (Arya Dharam p.25)

•”Uttering such abusive words of meanness (SIFLA-PUN) from the mouth and then wrote something on our advertisement..” (ibid. p.25)

•”Maharaj with wicked soul said…. Wicked Pandit…” (ibid. p.31,34)

•”These KAMEENA-natured people were already eager to criticise and on top of that they got hold of some Mischievous and Stupid Christians and Satanic Inclinations instructed them they are all true, thus they also took their share of this Black face and Embarrassment, which is now evident on the faces of Stupid Christian Priests.” (Ibid. p.47)

•”Otherwise they are faithless and Professional dishonest.” (ibid. p.60)

•”O Stupid Aryas! Go and jump into some well and kill yourself.” (ibid. p.62)
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Roohani Khaza’in Volume 10, Arya Dharam Page 64

O stupid Aryas go into some well and drown to death.

“Ab aey naadaan Ariyo kisi kuwain mein parr kar ddoob marro”.

 

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    • Mirza Ghulam Ahmad wrote following poetry regarding Hindu ladies and their tradition of ‘Niyog’. It is difficult to convey the exact meanings and implications of such writings. Niyog is a hindu custom whereby a widow or childless lady or the one whose husband has gone on protracted journey, goes to the houses of upper class hindus or to their relatives to get pregnant (Roohani Khazain vol.10 p.68 by Mirza Ghulam A. Qadiani). Some of the highlights of this poetry are as follows. The way Mirza has ridiculed this religious practice, is quite below the status of a reformer, let alone a prophet, if at all he is one!:

 

 

He who loves the tradition of Niyog
He is humiliated in this world and hereafterHe whose religion has such shamelessness
It is devoid of civility and wisdom
why shouldn’t second marriage be forbidden
when they have the ritual of NiyogChupke chupke haram karwaana
Aaryon ka usool bhaari
To get adultery secretly
Is a big ritual of AryansLaaiq-e-sokhtan hain unke mard
unkee naari her aik kee nari hay
Their men deserve to be burnt
their wife is the wife of everyoneWah wah! What a religion! what a faith!
Jis mein wajib haramkaari hay
My My! What religion! what a faith!
In which prostitution is obligatoryZun-e-Begana per yeh shaida hain
jis ko dekho wohee shikari hay
He is fond of other’s ladies
Everyone is a hunterGhair murdon say nutfa mangna
sakht khubs aur naabkari hay
To ask for sperm from other men
It is great wickedness and evil actGhair kay sath jo soti hay
woh na beewee, zun bazari hay
She sleeps with the other man
she is not a wife but a prostituteHay woh chandaal, dasht aur paapi
Juft uskee koee chamaari hay
He is Low-cast, wicked and Sinful
His spouse is some low-casteHain karoron niyag kay bachey
Arya dais main yeh khuwaari hay
There are millions of children of niyog
This is the humiliation in Aryan nationAisee aulad per khuda kee maar
yeh naa aulad qehr baari hay
Curse of God be upon such children
These are not children but God’s punishmentNaam aulad kay hussol kaa hay
saari shehwat kee beqraari hay
It is an excuse to get children
But it is actually restlessness of LustBaitaa Baitaa pukaartee hay ghulat
Yaar kee usko aah-o-zaaree
She wrongly pretends to be worried for her son
She is actually crying for her loverDus say karwaa chukee hay zinaa laiken
Paak daaman baichaari hay
She has committed adultery with ten, But
Poor lady is still chaste

Ghar main laatey hain uskay yaaronko
Aisee joroo kee paasdari
HE brings her lovers into the house
This is how cares for his wife

Uskay yaaron ko dekhnay kay leeay
sar-e-bazaar un kee baari
To see her lovers
In the market they take turns

Jorooji pay yeh fida hain yeh jee say
woh Niyogi pay upnay waari hay
He is deeply in love with his wife
She is obsessed with her Niyog

Hay Qawi mard kee talaash unHain
Khoob joroo kee haqdaari hay
They are in search of a strong man
they take good care of their wife’s rights

Taakey kerwaaein pher ussey gandgi
Paak honay kee intizaari hay
So that they will submit her for adultery
They are waiting for her to get clean (from menses)

Kya krein vaid kaa yehee hukum hay
turk kernaa gunaah gari hay
What can they do? This is the order of Veda
To reject it (Niyog) is a sin.

Roohani Khazain vol.10 pp.75-77                                              

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Roohani Khaziyan 10- page 75- Arya dharam
“””One bad charactered woman had the fear that if she adopts bad profession she have to bear the hard Test of law. So many women used to save their life to be distorted under this fear. In this age when the way of showing is closed ( he might mean that open sex activity is closed ) , the advertisement of boosting sexual (activity) are so much advertised is enough prove that in this time the disease of sex is so much spread . Firstly we are so much against this wrongful sect but in this time when morality and being religious is so much weak, to expect that this devil sect will terminate itself, is useless. That is why it is necessary that such a law should be made that people should not be able to destroy their morality , religion and health for ever , and that law should be a law only. We will be very thankful if that Law is again made In india and promulgated but the stipulation is must that for the (white people ) goora people , european prostitutes must be provided .( I am ) hopeful that government of India and contemporary people will listen and think over it . “””
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“”””If the Christian missionaries would listen to me I would counsel them to refrain from raising objections which can be directed against their own scriptures also. For instance, one of their principal criticisms of the Holy Prophetsa is directed against the battles that he had to wage under Divine command against those disbelievers who persecuted him and his companions for thirteen years at Makkah and inflicted every kind of torment upon them, and then devised a project of killing the Holy Prophetsa himself, so that he and his companions were compelled to leave Makkah. But his persecutors did not desist even then. They pursued him and treated him with every type of impertinence and continued to proclaim him false. They subjected the weak ones from among the Muslims who had been left in Makkah to extreme torment. Thus in the estimation of God Almighty, on account of their tyrannical behaviour, they became deserving of chastisement according to the eternal law of God. This chastisement was earned also by those who had helped the Makkahns in their misconduct and by those who had on their own carried the torment of the Muslims and the ridicule of their faith to the extreme and used all their power to block the propagation of Islam. Thus those who drew their swords against Islam were destroyed by the sword on account of their wickedness. Then is it fair to object to this kind of fighting, forgetting the battles of Moses and other Prophets of Israel in which thousands upon thousands of suckling babies were slaughtered? Such objections result from a spirit of mischief and deceit and disorderliness.

The Christians sometimes make the response that the battles fought by the Holy Prophetsa were characterised by too much tenderness towards the enemy in that those of them who accepted Islam escaped all punishment, suckling babies, women, old people, monks and travellers were all spared, nor were churches and synagogues demolished; while the Israeli prophets held all such practices lawful, so much so that more than 300,000 babies were slaughtered at one time. It is a strange conception that the battles fought by Islam should be open to criticism because of the clemency extended to the enemy and because they fell short of the severity that characterised the battles of Moses and other Israeli Prophets. Had the battles fought by Islam imposed the same degree of severity upon the enemy as was done in the battles mentioned in the Bible, apparently the Christian missionaries would have accepted these battles also as having been carried out under the command of God Almighty. Now every sensible person can decide whether this attitude is an honest one. On the one hand the Christians proclaim that God is mercy, and even His punishment has an aspect of mercy. Then if the battles of Moses despite their severity are believed to have been directed by God Almighty, how is it that the battles that possessed the fragrance of Divine mercy are not accepted as having been imposed by God Almighty? Why should those who deem the slaughter of suckling babies before the very eyes of their mothers and the merciless slaughter of the mothers within sight of their children as having been carried out under Divine command, not accept as falling in the same category battles which a persecuted people were permitted to fight in order to repel the aggression of their persecutors?””””

[Arya DharamRuhani Khaza’invol. 10, pp. 81-83, footnote]
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“””””The books that we accept and believe in and consider trustworthy are the following:

First is the Holy Qur’an. It should, however, be remem­bered that only that interpretation of a verse of the Qur’an is correct and trustworthy which is testified to by other verses of the Qur’an, inasmuch as some verses of the Qur’an interpret other verses. If certainty of meaning should not be guaranteed by other verses of the Qur’an, then the meaning should be confirmed by some true and reliable Hadith. According to us, the interpretation based merely on one’s opinion is not permissible. Everyone who raises an objection against the Holy Qur’an should keep this rule in mind.

Of the other books that are accepted by us the Sahih of Bukhari ranks as the first. All its Ahadith which are not opposed to the Holy Qur’an are in our view authoritative. Next comes Sahih Muslim. We accept its authority subject to the condition that it should not be opposed to the Holy Qur’an and Sahih Bukhari. Next to them are the compilations of Tirmidhi, Ibn-e-Majah, Muattah of Imam Malik, Nassa’i, Abu Da’ud and Dar Qutni, which we regard as authoritative so long as they are not opposed to the Holy Qur’an and Bukhari and Muslim. These are our religious books and these are the conditions under which we accept them…Every critic must confine himself to these books and these conditions.”””

[Arya Dharam, Ruhani Khaza’in, Vol.10, pp.86-87]
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A video by the Ahmadiyya Jamaat in terms of Arya Dharam
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=87P207Vk0Eo

Links and related Essays
http://aaiil.org/urdu/books/mirzaghulamahmad/aryadharam/aryadharam.shtml

https://ahmadiyyafactcheckblog.com/2016/11/13/mga-used-lekh-rams-arguments-vs-esa-as/

https://ahmadiyyafactcheckblog.com/2018/09/30/mirza-ghulam-ahmad-wanted-prostitutes-to-be-given-to-all-british-soldiers-in-india/

https://ahmadiyyafactcheckblog.com/2016/11/18/surma-e-chashme-arya-by-mirza-ghulam-ahmad-1886-quotes/

https://ahmadiyyafactcheckblog.com/2018/10/02/arya-dharam-pages-1-9/

Another Ahmadi leaves Ahmadiyya

Intro
Dear readers, we support anyone that leaves Ahmadiyya unconditionally.  In this pursuit, we are publishing a new blog from an Ex-Ahmadi turned agnostic.  Enjoy!

The link to his blog
https://dreamedofyou.wordpress.com/2018/08/23/message-to-my-family-why-i-have-left-islam/#4

The data

Message to My Family: Why I Have Left Islam

And whoever of you reverts from his religion [to disbelief] and dies while he is a disbeliever – for those, their deeds have become worthless in this world and the Hereafter, and those are the companions of the Fire, they will abide therein eternally (2:217)

Salaam/Peace.

I am writing the following article primarily for my extended family, but since I also want other people to benefit from it, I will be keeping details anonymous throughout the article. For my relatives who have been linked to this article, I am the third son of the family which resides in Canada.

I count in total more than 60 uncles, aunts, and cousins in my extended family, and since I know that not all of you will be able to read through the whole article, the main takeaway will be that:

I have left Islam and Ahmadiyyat. I no longer consider myself an Ahmadi, or any type of Muslim.

For those of you who have not yet cast any judgment, are willing to keep an open mind, and are interested in learning why I have left Islam, I encourage you to read the rest of the article: it is fairly extensive and covers the various reasons for why I have made such a major decision.


Table of Contents

Introduction

But I want you to understand how people often grow to believe things the way that they do, and how fear can entrench those beliefs so deeply in one’s mind—especially a child’s mind—that they become all but intractable (Ali Rizvi)

For most of you, if not all, this message will come as a surprise: as far as I can tell, I will be the first one on both, my father’s side as well as my mother’s side, to explicitly leave Islam.

This was not an easy decision to make, nor was it a hurried decision: in fact, I have spent hours, days, weeks, months in an objective study of Islam that brought me to the conclusion that there indeed was no divinity contained therein.

Before going through the article, it is important that you familiarize yourself with two fundamental ideas, namely: Cognitive Dissonance and Indoctrination.

From Google:

The term cognitive dissonance is used to describe the feelings of discomfort that result from holding two conflicting beliefs. When there is an inconsistency between beliefs and behaviors, something must change in order to eliminate or reduce the dissonance.

Cognitive dissonance is going to play a very big part as you read this article: you will undoubtedly go through internal conflicts as you will learn more about Islam and Ahmadiyyat, while trying to reconcile it with your own preconceived notions of religion.

I just want you to be aware that this will be a very natural feeling, and instead of fighting it from the onset and immediately discarding any conflicting evidence, simply try to keep an open mind and at the end of the article, you will have the opportunity to digest what you have read.

Regarding indoctrination, Google says:

Indoctrination is the process of teaching a person or group to accept a set of beliefs uncritically.

One thing should be clear to all of you: every single person who was born in a religion and grows up to believe that that religion is from god has been indoctrinated.

When we’re discussing Muslims in particular, the very first thing a child hears is the Adhan, which includes statements such as I bear witness that there is no god except Allah and I bear witness that Muhammad is the messenger of God.

Growing up, we’re told that Allah has revealed the Quran, that Muhammad was the most perfect human being and the chosen prophet to guide the world to God, and for those of us who are Ahmadis, we were raised on the belief that Mirza Ghulam Ahmad was the promised messiah and reformer.

When you teach such ideas to a child, especially when further contextualized with ideas of heaven and hell, punishment and reward, the child has no option but to accept such beliefs as facts.

By the time they grow into full-fledged adults with critical thinking abilities, it is often too late to question such inherited beliefs, and they will spend the rest of their lives committed to such ideas which were ingrained in them from when they were young.

As Ali Rizvi says:

Your religious beliefs aren’t really you. They are simply part of the medium you were cultured in when you were raised. You know, deep down, that if you were born in a Hindu family, you’d probably be Hindu; and in a Christian family, you’d be Christian. You know, deep down, that your faith is really just an accident of birth. So, logically speaking, it can’t be about ideas, can it? Ideas don’t come with birth. They need to be considered, explored, and evaluated.

And we will do exactly that through this article: we will consider, explore, and evaluate Islam because that is the right thing to do.

Just because you and I were born in Islam does not mean that Islam is free from critique.

My Personal Journey

This will come off as a bit impersonal, but I have already been writing about my personal experiences, as well as objective studies and analyses of Islam, online for the past few months: at the risk of repeating myself, I will simply link to such existing content to serve as primers with regards to understanding why I have left Islam.

  1. About – this page serves as an introduction to why I am writing about Islam online. It also explains the name of this blog, as well as contains links to my Reddit and Twitter handles.
  2. My Story – this page provides a good overview on how I went from being a devout Ahmadi Muslim to eventually agnostic.
  3. Is the Quran from God? – this page is an objective study into the lack of divinity in the Quran.

While it is not necessary to read the above three pages to follow the rest of this article, I do recommend them, especially the article about the Quran, if you’re interested in learning more beyond what’s on this page.


Before continuing, I want to be firm in the following statement:

I am not interested in debate.

I do not want to be told that I am wrong, or that I have misinterpreted Islam, or that I have not prayed hard enough, or that I should have written a letter to the khalifa, nor do I want to be linked to pro-Islamic/Ahmadiyyat material.

You might be thinking: isn’t it hypocritical that I have written criticisms of Islam for you to read, but I am not willing to hear from your side? To that, I say:

Firstly, you are an adult, and you are choosing to read this article containing critique of Islam: as I said above, if you’re not able or interested in keeping an open mind to consume such content, there is no reason for you to read this article and your time will be better spent elsewhere.

Secondly, I am assuming a lot of what will be written here will be novel to most of you and will give you an opportunity to learn more about your faith: if this is all very familiar to you, it’s actually concerning that you know as much (or more) than I do about Islam and Ahmadiyyat and are still following it.

Thirdly, and more importantly, I have been there. By most metrics, I was a much more devout Muslim than the majority of my cousins: I prayed 5 times a day, I read the Quran (in Arabic) daily, I fasted every year, I attended Ijtimas and Jalsas, I’ve paid thousands of dollars of chanda, I have never drunk, I have never taken drugs etc.

I know what it is to be Muslim. I have heard arguments in favour of Islam and Ahmadiyyat my whole life. I believed in those arguments, which I now attribute to my indoctrination.

But today, I know what it is like to not be Muslim and to have freedom on conscience. This is a perspective which the majority of you have probably not come across, and if you are willing to learn more, this article has been written for you.

Note: The following two sections will focus on a more objective view about religion, explaining why I have full conviction that there is no divinity present in Islam and Ahmadiyyat. If you’re more interested in reading about my personal stories, values, and beliefs, you can head directly to my section “Have I Misunderstood Islam?”

About Ahmadiyyat

Note: This section can be skipped if you are not Ahmadi or not interested in learning about Ahmadiyyat – I am simply writing about this since it mirrors the beginning of my journey and how I begun questioning my indoctrination in the first place. I talk about Islam at large in the following section.

Mirza Ghulam Ahmad

The answer is that men and women are not equal. Universal experience has shown that man is superior to woman in physical and mental powers. There are exceptions, but exceptions don’t make the rule. Justice demands that if man and wife want to separate, the right to decide should lie with the husband (Mirza Ghulam Ahmad, p 314)

Mirza Ghulam Ahmad is believed to be a prophet sent from Allah after Muhammad to reform Islam: this belief in of itself is contradictory to the mainstream Islamic view that Muhammad was the final prophet, as evidenced by numerous Hadiths (Sahih Al-Bukhari – Volume 4 Book 56 Number 735Muhammad’s Last Sermon) as well as verse 33:40 in the Quran where Muhammad is said to be the seal of prophets.

Something which may surprise Ahmadis is that Mirza Ghulam Ahmad himself believed in such teachings:

“It should be clear that we curse anyone who claims prophethood” from Ishtiharat Vol.2, p.297

“We be-lie and disbelieve anyone who claims prophethood and messengerhood after the Prophet Muhammad, the Final Messenger” from Ishtiharat Vol.1, p.230

“…that I am not a claimant to Prophethood and that, in fact, I consider such a claimant to be outside the pale of Islam” from Asmani Faislah p.6

Of course, Ahmadiyya literature will find ways of reconciling the above statements with the prophethood of Mirza Ghulam Ahmad, dedicating pages amongst pages to prove that he was indeed foreseen by Muhammad 1,400 years ago: https://www.alislam.org/topics/messiah/.

I personally do not care for either interpretation since I fundamentally disagree with the belief that Islam is divine. However, I do want to share with you some examples from Mirza Ghulam Ahmad’s writings so that you can assess for yourself whether this person sounds like he’s from god. Mirza Ghulam Ahmad has:

Before you automatically default to excuses such as god told him to say those things, or that he was simply retaliating against others who instigated such fights … just ask yourself: are you fully comfortable knowing that the man you have been following your whole life has exhibited such petty behaviour? Do you truly think that god would tell his prophet to write curses for five pages? Ask yourself whether your current khalifa would call people “haram zaada”, or would openly caricature opponents of Islam today. There are many more vocal opponents of Islam today than Mirza Ghulam Ahmad could have ever known during his time and yet we don’t see the later khalifas resorting to such unholy, distasteful retorts.

The above references are, granted, fairly superficial but I hope that this showcases your lack of knowledge of your own prophet – I would be very surprised if any of my Ahmadi family has seen such writings before.

Extensive work has already been done in dissecting the claims, actions, and character of Mirza Ghulam Ahmad, and once again, I will defer to such references instead.

Nuzhat Haneef wrote an excellent book titled Recognizing the Messiah, which is a critical study into the writings of Mirza Ghulam Ahmad. I recommend starting with the following sections:

  • Pages 52 – 60 discuss via direct quotes how Mirza Ghulam Ahmad constantly shifted his prophecized age of death, and how he actually ended up dying at the age of 69 according to his own writings, instead of at 80, which is what he claimed god had initially revealed to him.
  • Pages 114 – 120 discuss how he leveraged the plague affecting India and Hong Kong at the time to recruit members to Ahmadiyyat. It personally seemed disingenuous to me how he claimed that acceptance of Ahmadiyyat would save people from the plague.
  • Pages 187 – 207 showcase the foul language, as well as unholy content, published by Mirza Ghulam Ahmad. It seemed impossible to me that a person engaging in such writings would be from god (the above examples are largely drawn from this section).
  • Pages 309 – 324 serve as a useful reminder that there are numerous other religious denominations experiencing similar, if not greater, success than Ahmadiyyat: this objective observation should indicate that Ahmadis do not have a monopoly on religious success, as often claimed to be the sign that Ahmadiyyat is truth.

Marmuzah has also written about the failing claims of Mirza Ghulam Ahmad, including:

  • John Huge Smyth Pigot, which is where Mirza Ghulam Ahmad said Pigot would die during Ahmad’s lifetime (i.e. before 1908) for claiming that he was Jesus but Pigot actually died in 1927. Ahmadis will claim that this occurred due to Pigot retracting his claim. However, it turns out that Pigot still believed he was Jesus even after Ahmad had died.
  • 40 Years, which is where Mirza Ghulam Ahmad claimed in 1892 to have 30 years remaining in his 40 year mission, but he died in 1908, 14 years shy from his original prophecy. Ahmadis will circumvent this by stating that Ahmad’s son eventually became a khalifa and so Ahmad’s mission was effectively extended but in times like these, we should apply Occam’s Razor: is it more likely that Ahmad was being purposefully elusive or that he was simply pretending to have revelations which obviously went unfulfilled?
  • English Revelations from Allah, which includes revelations such as “We can what we will do”, “You have to go Amritsar”, “He is with you to kill enemy” and “Yes, I am happy”. You would expect a divine being to be more articulate than that, and besides, god experiences happiness? This sounds more like a human’s understanding of what he wants god to be like than what an actual divine being would be like.

At this point, I hope that you have sufficiently enough primary sources to investigate for yourself as to whether Mirza Ghulam Ahmad was actually a prophet from god, as he claimed: do you agree with such an assessment, when you critically think about it, or will you go on accepting inherited beliefs from your parents because you were indoctrinated to accept such a claim?

I will leave you with a last example of how Ahmadis often twist literature to fit their narrative.

In the introduction to Barahin-e-Ahmadiyya, Mirza Masroor Ahmad mentions the following Hadith to support the idea of Mirza Ghulam Ahmad being a prophet:

When you find the Mahdi, perform bai‘at at his hand. You must go to him, even if you have to reach him across icebound mountains on your knees. He is the Khalifah of Allah, [he is] the Mahdi. (Sunan Ibn-e-Majah, Kitabul-Fitan, Babu Khurujil-Mahdi, Hadith no. 4074)

This is a fairly popular Hadith which circulates Jamaat events. However, let us take a look at this Hadith in its entire form:

“Three will fight one another for your treasure, each one of them the son of a caliph, but none of them will gain it. Then the black banners will come from the east, and they will kill you in an unprecedented manner.” Then he mentioned something that I do not remember, then he said: “When you see them, then pledge your allegiance to them even if you have to crawl over the snow, for that is the caliph of Allah, Mahdi.”

Not only has this Hadith been labelled Da’if (considered to be the weakest and least authentic type of Hadith) but when the Hadith is actually contextualized, we can see that it has nothing to do at all with the narrative that Ahmadis try to push of Mirza Ghulam Ahmad being the prophecized reformer of Islam.

Ahmad made his claims around 120 years ago, and since his death, there have been 5 khalifas, considered to be his divine successors. While they will not approach Ahmad in terms of inconsistencies and foul language, they do have a myriad of opinions which would be considered harmful, especially when such statements have to be unequivocally accepted by Ahmadis since they have been indoctrinated to believe that the khalifas are from god and can do no wrong.

Ahmadiyya Leadership

If you or your daughter has the right not to observe pardah (veil) then I too have the right, borne out of the right you have, to expel such noncompliant [people] from the Community. I would be doing so because of the commandment of Allah and for this reason no one should have any complaint (Mirza Masroor Ahmad, pp.28)

I will never know what it is like to be an Ahmadi woman but I would imagine that hearing your world leader talk day in, day out about purdah would get exhausting, if not authoritarian. To then hear that your membership is contingent on whether you wear a veil everywhere would probably instill fear in you, pressuring you into observing purdah whether you want to or not.

Here is what an ex-Ahmadi woman has to say about purdah:

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An ex-Ahmadi woman’s take on the oppression and control of purdah

It is almost hypocritical to proudly wave the “Love for All, Hatred for None” banner at Jalsas, all the while inviting the media to show just how accepting and progressive Ahmadis are, when such constraints are put upon women: a woman should never be measured by her choice of clothing.

And before you default to excuses such as “Ahmadiyyat is a membership, and if you do not follow its rules, it is only fair that you are removed”, ask yourself:

  1. Why are you benchmarking the secular conception of clubs and memberships to a religious, supposedly divinely guided, institution?
  2. If Ahmadiyyat was really a membership and people are free to leave at will, why do people fear leaving this membership?
  3. Memberships usually have an exit clause: I could not find any information, or support online, from official sources on how to leave Ahmadiyyat.
  4. Most importantly, can you think of any membership in which you are automatically enrolled in at birth, without ever asking for your consent, and then indoctrinated to believe that this membership is what will lead you to god’s happiness?

I will leave you with a video that showcases several statements made by the 4th and 5th khalifas about women:

Moving away from the blatant misogyny from the khalifas, let us observe how the khalifas talk about science, a field which is rooted in facts and evidence so as to ensure that there is only truth.

In the following video, Mirza Masroor states that “God made man as a man”

We know this to be incorrect, given that life began as a single-cell species (for those of you unaccustomed with evolution, you can read more online – the Simple Wiki link is a good start). Why does it matter what he said about evolution? Well …

It is dangerous for a person who is believed to be from god to make unscientific and false claims.

There are hundreds, if not thousands, of children watching the khalifa, having no option but to believe everything which he says to be truth as they’ve been indoctrinated to do so – they will later learn about evolution at school but have trouble accepting the science because their khalifa said otherwise.

Along similar lines, the recent khalifas have been big proponents of homeopathy, going so far as prescribing it to cure Ebola, as well as WW3 Radiation.

There is countless evidence to indicate that homeopathy is nothing more than pseudoscience. The World Health Organization (WHO) has actually said that it does not support the use of homeopathy as treatment against diseases such as HIV, influenza, and malaria.

This goes back to my original point: when a person is believed to be from god, they cannot afford to lead people on unscientific beliefs. Do you truly think god would tell his khalifas to encourage homeopathy when god should know that it is ineffective? And if god is not telling these khalifas to do so, what is motivating them? This seems to indicate more mysticism than divinity.

While there is so much more to say about the khalifas (including the hereditary nature of the caliphate system, the fact that people knew that Masroor would be the khalifa prior to the election, and the 4th khalifa claiming 40 million Ahmadi converts in 2001, which could also be seen on the official Ahmadiyya website stating that Ahmadis numbered 200 million members at some point), I wanted to draw focus to the antisemitism present in Ahmadiyyat.

In his 1991 sermon, Mirza Tahir Ahmad talks about the “Long Drawn Plan of Jewish Domination”, citing works such as Protocols of the Elders of Zion, and Waters Flowing Eastward as credible evidence that the Jewish want to achieve global domination, despite both of those texts having been proven to be fabricated antisemitic rhetoric.

Mirza Tahir says things such as:

The plan expresses the hope that following these achievements and realizing the goal of establishing the United Nations, the Jews would then acquire control of the United Nations and exercise, through it, their dominion over the whole world.

and

The contemporary world situation is rooted in the plan that was founded around the year 1897, at least apparently, because it was then that the efforts directed towards the establishment of the state of Israel were started.

From the alislam Quran commentary (which was edited by Mirza Tahir Ahmad), we also see:

“Ignominy and humiliation have dogged the footsteps of the ill-fated Jewish people throughout the ages. Their return to Palestine and the establishment of the State of Israel seems to only be a temporary phase

My father’s family consists of numerous people who are sincere believers in such antisemitic canard, no doubt influenced by their khalifa holding such beliefs.

Let it be clear that there is no objective and clear evidence of such plans ever existing in the first place. It is easy to rest in a bubble and simply consume content which feeds your bias, but when there is a lack of objective studies into ideas such as Jewish people wanting to take over the world, this is probably a good indication that your belief is nothing more than a conspiracy theory founded in antisemitism.

As my friend Reason on Faith eloquently puts it,

Just as Jewish people dominate in the sciences, this small community has an indisputably strong influence with both political parties in the United States—the most powerful country in the world. There is nothing wrong with asking why and how this came to be. To analyze such an impressive feat of influence is not bigotry nor is it anti-semitic. Doubling down on long since discredited conspiracy theories, however, is what is actually noteworthy.

Conversation With My Father

O you who have believed, do not take your [family] as allies if they have preferred disbelief over belief. And whoever does so among you – then it is those who are the wrongdoers (9:23)

My father is a firm believer that everything which has happened to us is due to the grace of Nizam-e-Jamaat (the overall organization of the Ahmadiyya community). He believes, as all Ahmadis do, that this is a divine institution which has been sent and is regulated by god, and that its true followers will lead the path to salvation for the rest of the world.

As Mirza Tahir Ahmad says: “The day of Islam’s propagation and victory and the dominance of Ahmadiyyat will come. This is indeed that final destiny which will definitely take over and that indeed will be the New World Order”.

It should come as no surprise, therefore, that my father is wary of anyone who criticizes this divine scheme. I distinctly remember him telling me (paraphrased):

Every individual who has ever criticized the Nizam-e-Jamaat, may they have complained about the governance or the administration or the execution, has ultimately failed in life. Allah does not shower his blessings on those who speak ill of Ahmadiyyat.

My father at the time would have obviously not known that his own son would end up leaving Islam and become a vocal ex-Muslim, critiquing Islam and Ahmaddiyat while reaching an international audience.

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People from all over the world are reading my analyses of Islam and Ahmadiyyat

I wonder if my father still holds onto his belief that anyone who criticizes the Jamaat will ultimately be doomed in this life and the hereafter, and if so, does he believe that I am now destined for failure?

About Islam

This day I have perfected for you your religion and completed My favor upon you and have approved for you Islam as religion (5:3)

Islam is a religion which has been around for 1,400 years, currently numbering a 1.8 billion following (which is roughly 25% of the world’s population). Countless scholars have spent years of their lives studying Islam, may it be in favour of it or against it.

Within the small real estate I have available on this article, I don’t intend in any way to debunk every single claim of Islam. However, I do hope to shed light on some of its lesser-known (or more likely simply ignored) positions and stances so that you can be honest with yourself and decide whether you want to continuously follow this religion with your current lack of knowledge, or whether you will find it in yourself to take the first step in the journey of challenging your indoctrination and finding the truth which matters to you.

What is True Islam?

From average Muslims to renowned historical scholars and exegetes, almost everyone seems to have misinterpreted the [Quran] in one way or another. How could this happen? If any other book was this widely misunderstood or misinterpreted, what would you think of the author? You might think he is either exceedingly inarticulate or incompetent (Ali Rizvi).

I quoted a verse in the Quran which states that Allah has “perfected for you your religion”. I have a very simple rhetorical question to ask:

Can you identify which sect of Islam is practicing its true, perfect teachings?

The answer, obviously, is whichever sect you belong to. Now, there are numerous sects of Islam, each one believing that they have a monopoly on the correct interpretation of Islam:

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The multiple sects of Islam: can you spot the true Islam?

This is not unique to Islam: Judaism, Christianity, and other major world religions are susceptible to the same fallacy, whereby an initial individual body of work (e.g. Torah, Bible) has led to multiple segments in their followings, each with their own features.

Ali Rizvi puts it perfectly:

The obvious issue here is, there is never any consensus on who the “real” Muslims are. To a moderate Muslim in the West, the Islamic State aren’t true Muslims. To the Islamic State, Shias aren’t true Muslims. To both the Shias and the Sunnis, Ahmadis—a sect that believes a prophet or messiah actually came after Muhammad—aren’t true Muslims. And to the Ahmadis, the Islamic State aren’t true Muslim.

A very hot topic since 9/11 has been around the associations between terrorism rooted in the Middle East and Islam.

Most Muslims would immediately claim that groups such as ISIS are not true Muslims – they will say that those are simply bad people who are doing horrible acts which have absolutely nothing to do with Islam, the religion of peace.

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Bad thing done by Muslim: “this is not from Islam.

Nice thing done by Muslim: “this is Islam”.

Quranic verse about Jihad: “you are not a scholar…context…erm not Islam”.

Quranic verse about respecting other religions: “this is Islam”.

Consider that the leader of ISIS has a PhD in Islamic Studies and is more learned than the majority of Imams who deliver your Friday sermons. Consider that Islam was heavily rooted in warfare during its expansion. Consider that the Quran contains verses such as “And slay them wherever ye find them, and drive them out of the places whence they drove you out, for persecution is worse than slaughter… and fight them until fitnah is no more, and religion is for Allah” (2:191) and “When the forbidden months are past, then fight and slay the Pagans wherever ye find them, and seize them, beleaguer them, and lie in wait for them in every stratagem of war” (9:5).

To claim that ISIS and other Islamic terrorist groups have nothing to do with Islam is ignorance at best. Any person who has read through the Quran should not be surprised that a group such as ISIS exists in the first place to begin with – the verses of the Quran are ripe with violence, terror, domination, and control.

Of course, the immediate retort is that these verses are out of context (more on this later). Why is it that these countless verses of violence are always out of context, but verses where it talks about charity don’t require any additional context to comprehend? This excuse sets ground for cherry-picking, whereby any group can select any partition of the book they choose to follow. And within this framework, it is equally as valid to kill people in the name of Allah as it is to donate charity to the poor in the name of Allah.

I am not saying that it is right to kill people, but there is no objective criteria to determining the validity of someone’s interpretation of Islam, resulting in parity in which all interpretations are valid, regardless of their innate morality, and that in itself is what is problematic.

Quoting Ali Rizvi again:

The fear of simply calling a spade a spade is seemingly ubiquitous, and almost exclusively happens with the case of religion. Consider for a moment how strange this is: a man yells Allahu Akbar and commits a terrible action, like a beheading. He claims his act was justified in the eyes of God. You go online and look up all of the passages he is quoting, as well as related ones. The words match his actions exactly. He has even articulated his intentions clearly and told everyone why he did it. But everywhere you turn, people are saying, no, it’s got to be something else. Even if you show them the exact words the man quoted, they find a way to tell you it’s unrelated. Some may even call you a racist or bigot simply for bringing the issue up.

I imagine this section to be fairly upsetting to my Muslim family, although I would pen this down to their lack of knowledge of the Quran more than anything else: as I stated above, it should come as no surprise how a literal interpretation of the Quran (which is a valid way of interpreting a text, given we interpret all other texts literally) can lead to Islamic terrorism.

I just want to leave you with a last food for thought:

Your son who drinks on the weekend, takes drugs, has premarital sex, does not pray, and does not read the Quran is still Muslim, but the guys who kill and do everything else in the name of Allah, while following the Quran’s numerous violent instructions literally with the hope of realizing the following verse: “So let those fight in the cause of Allah who sell the life of this world for the Hereafter. And he who fights in the cause of Allah and is killed or achieves victory – We will bestow upon him a great reward” (4:74) are considered non-Muslims.

As Veedu says:

The Holy Quran

Whatever benefit comes to you, it is from Allah, and whatever misfortune befalls you, it is from yourself (4:79)

As I mentioned above, I have previously written extensively about the Quran, covering its numerous problematic verses ranging from Allah’s obsession with destroying disbelievers to Allah’s incorrect understanding of history to the unscientific claims to the blatant misogyny. You can read more here: Is the Quran from God? An Assessment of the Divinity in the Quran.

When I initially brought up these verses with my father, his immediate reaction was: “You’re taking them out of context!”, without really paying attention to the numerous inconsistencies. Instead of critically assessing the points which I had proposed (the way he’d do with anything not involving Islam), he defaulted to his inherited beliefs in self-defense: there is no way the Quran could be wrong.

Let’s play a little game: read through my analysis of the Quran and count a point for every time in which you resort to one of the following excuses (taken from Ali Rizvi). You win if you get 35 points since I count 35 verses cited in my article.

  • Misinterpretation: If the translation was correct, it was being “misinterpreted”—but there was no explanation as to what the correct interpretation was.
  • Out of Context: If the interpretation was plausible, it was “specific to that time” or simply “out of context”—again, with no explanation as to the correct context.
  • Metaphorical: If it was all-out false or wrong, it was because it was “metaphor,” and I was “taking it too literally”; indeed, it seemed as if the more questions I asked, the more “metaphorical” the Quran got—anything in the text that had been proven false over the centuries was deemed a “metaphor.”
  • Not True Muslims: If I pointed out that many of the Saudis, Egyptians, and other Arabic-speaking nations also interpreted the book in the way I was describing, I was promptly reminded that the Saudis had been bought by America and Israel a long time ago, and remember, those Egyptians even had a treaty with the Jews.

Of course, there is nothing that I can say to change your mind about the Quran if you have to resort to such excuses for every single problematic verse: I am in no position to absolutely claim that those verses were not metaphorical all along.

However, I am a rational and logical person, and I can only give the Quran so much benefit of the doubt before realizing that no divine being would reveal a book which hinges so heavily on nuanced interpretation, and that its verses which literally talk about killing people (2:191) actually mean to love people, and its verses about eternal hell (72:23) are actually about eternal heaven, and its verses about big breasted virgins in heaven (78:33) are actually about the grandeur of god’s love: no one would stand for such folly in the secular world.

To close off this section, here is an interesting skit on how people react to the various good verses, as well as the problematic ones, from the Quran:

Prophet Muhammad

Faith, in contrast, begins with a definitive conclusion believed to be correct—such as “Jesus is the son of God” or “Muhammad is Allah’s messenger”—and then works backward, cherry picking pieces of evidence (or perceived evidence) in an attempt to support it. This preconceived conclusion is most often accepted on the authority of men who died over a thousand years ago, or the books they left behind. In essence, science poses questions before attempting to provide answers, whereas faith provides answers that it deems unquestionable (Ali Rizvi).

I speak to some of the concerns which I had about Muhammad’s treatment in the Quran in my article, including how god permits him unlimited wives, god threatens his wives directly, god has to step in to tell Muhammad’s guests to leave his house, and how god tells Muhammad that he can have sex with his female slaves (war captives).

I also talk about his marriage with Zaynab, who was his adopted son’s ex-wife, as well as his marriage with Safiyya, a young 18 year old girl with whom he had sex on the same day that he killed her father and husband.

Does Muhammad really stand the test of time as a role model for eternity?

When taking a deeper look at his actions, we see Muhammad engaging in acts of religious intolerance which no one should ever exert, least of all a man who claims to be from god. When Muhammad returned to Mecca from Medina, his first priority was to destroy the idols in Mecca. Regardless of what you think of idols or someone else’s religion, you would think that a prophet of god would take a kinder and more compassionate approach to reclaiming the Kaaba instead of resorting to such violent extremes.

Muhammad has also stoned adulterers to death, which is often attributed to him simply following the Jewish law. It’s in situations like these where it brings to question: why did god wait for people to be stoned to death before revealing that flogging is the right punishment for adultery (which in itself is problematic)? Why didn’t Muhammad see something wrong with stoning people and tell god that he won’t follow such a barbaric practice?

The thing is, it’s easy for you to sit there in the comfort of your life and believe that Muhammad is the most perfect human being to have ever graced the Earth when you are not being stoned to death by him.


Moving away from his reprehensible actions, let us look at some of Muhammad’s lesser known, yet still Sahih (authentic) Hadiths. I will reference a few of them below, which I hope will encourage you to study Hadiths in more detail – it should become clear to you pretty quickly how Muhammad does not sound like someone who’s had divine guidance:

  1. Muhammad says that the features of a child are contingent on whether the man or the woman ejaculates first (Sahih al Bukhari 3329)
  2. Muhammad says that a newborn child will be male if the man’s discharge prevails over the woman’s, and that the child will be female if the woman’s discharge prevails over the man’s (Sahih Muslim 315)
  3. Muhammad says that a nation with a women as a ruler will never succeed (Sahih al-Bukhari 7099)
  4. Muhammad says that angels will curse a wife who refuses to sleep with her husband (Sahih al-Bukhari 3237)
  5. Muhammad says that a woman cannot voluntarily fast (Nawafil) without the permission of her husband (Sahih al-Bukhari 5195)
  6. Muhammad says that the 7 deadly sins of Islam include practicing sorcery, running away from the battlefield, and using interest (Sahih al-Bukhari 2766)
  7. Muhammad says that keeping a pet dog will deduct two Qirat from your good deeds per day (Sahih al-Bukhari 5480). Qirat is a measurement of your deeds in Islam.
  8. Muhammad says that Allah loves sneezing but dislikes yawning. Also, yawning is actually from Satan (Sahih al-Bukhari 6226)
  9. Muhammad says not to beat your wife like how you beat your slave because you might want to have sex with her later (Sahih al-Bukhari 4942)
  10. Muhammad says to cut off the hand of the thief who steals an egg or rope (Sahih al-Bukhari 6799)
  11. Muhammad says that he has been ordered to fight until everyone believes in Allah (Sahih al-Bukhari 392)
  12. Muhammad says that he will expel the Jews and Christians from Arabia (Sahih Muslim 1767)
  13. Muhammad says that children cry because Satan pricks them (Sahih Muslim 2367)
  14. Muhammad says that angels do not enter homes with pictures (Sahih al-Bukhari 5957)

You can read countless more Hadiths here, to get a better sense of what type of person Muhammad really was based off his attributed sayings.

Now, you might say that Muhammad has great Hadiths such as “Love for one’s Homeland is part of your Faith” which counter the more questionable ones. Did you know that that Hadith was actually fabricated?

What does it say about Muhammad that we can accurately pinpoint him perpetuating the violent verses in the Quran, talking about how he’ll drive the Jews and Christians away from Arabia, but we have trouble attributing pacifist quotes to him?

Does Muhammad sound like a prophet of god to you? Do his sayings and actions reflect the standard which we’d expect from an eternal role model?

Day in, day out, you pray for Muhammad in heaven. It is actually required of you to say “peace and blessings upon him” every time his name is mentioned, and he also plays a big role in the Salat, where 1.8 billion Muslims recite at minimum 11 times daily:

My God, honor Muhammad and Muhammad’s family as you honored Abraham and Abraham’s family; surely, you are praiseworthy, the Great.

My God, bless Muhammad and Muhammad’s family as you blessed Abraham and Abraham’s family; surely, you are praiseworthy, the Great.

Next time you recite such prayers, just remember that Muhammad is the one who gave men advice on how to beat their wives.

Women In Islam

Indeed, those who do not believe in the Hereafter name the angels female names (53:27)

If I had to give one reason for why I have left Islam and have absolutely no doubt that it’s man-made (and by that, I mean it in the most literal sense that it was by males), it has to do with the treatment of women in Islam.

As with the previous sections, I will defer to the analysis which I had done about women in the Quran in my article, where I talk about the asymmetric treatment of women, including how men are given permission to beat them, two female witnesses are required for one male witness since women can err in memory, women receive half the inheritance as men, and that angels could not possibly be women.

When you consider that the Quran never talks to women directly, despite have multiple verses talking to men directly (e.g. 2:187, 2:221, 2:223, 4:3, 4:22, 4:34, 4:43), this should be cause for concern.

What divine being would create man and woman, and choose to speak directly to one half of the population, and instead defer to the men to communicate to women? Isn’t the Quran supposed to be the one truly infallible word of god? You would think a divine being to treat his creations equally instead of playing favourites.

One of the verses which I cite in my article is:

Do not marry unbelieving women (idolaters), until they believe: A slave woman who believes is better than an unbelieving woman, even though she allures you. Nor marry (your girls) to unbelievers until they believe (2:221)

This is just one of the cases in which Allah talks directly to men, telling them whom they can marry, but also tells men whom their daughters can marry.

Couldn’t Allah just talk directly to women? Are they not deserving of being addressed?

Here’s a lengthy, but noteworthy, Sahih Hadith in which Muhammad discusses the deficiency of a woman in her faith and her intelligence:

Once Allah’s Messenger (ﷺ) went out to the Musalla (to offer the prayer) of `Id-al-Adha or Al-Fitr prayer. Then he passed by the women and said, “O women! Give alms, as I have seen that the majority of the dwellers of Hell-fire were you (women).” They asked, “Why is it so, O Allah’s Messenger (ﷺ) ?” He replied, “You curse frequently and are ungrateful to your husbands. I have not seen anyone more deficient in intelligence and religion than you. A cautious sensible man could be led astray by some of you.” The women asked, “O Allah’s Messenger (ﷺ)! What is deficient in our intelligence and religion?” He said, “Is not the evidence of two women equal to the witness of one man?” They replied in the affirmative. He said, “This is the deficiency in her intelligence. Isn’t it true that a woman can neither pray nor fast during her menses?” The women replied in the affirmative. He said, “This is the deficiency in her religion.” (Sahih al-Bukhari 304)

The following anecdotes are largely my personal observations, but I do believe they tap into just how much force and constraint Islam imposes on women:

  1. I’ve recounted this story before but this was probably one of the first times when I simply could not agree with religion, despite still being a firm believer at the time. I was at a mosque event when a woman had just finished reciting a poem, and the Imam said that from that day onward, we are not to hear women speak at any events containing a male audience. Women were now only allowed to give speeches or sing poems to each other. When I asked the Imam about this ruling, he told me that men can be attracted to women’s voices, and since mosque events are meant for spiritual rejuvenation, we cannot allow men to be distracted. Of course, this concept of attraction did not apply to the women: they were broadcasted audio and video from the men’s side but there was no fear that a woman could be attracted to a man’s figure or voice. As should be obvious to any reader, attraction goes both ways: a man is just as easily attracted to a woman as the other way around. Humans are sexual beings and it is part of our DNA to be attracted. While this would have been a perfect opportunity for Islam to educate and teach consent and restraint (i.e. solving the root cause), it instead defaults to just keeping women away from men (i.e. solving the symptom).
  2. I had brought up the verse about the Quran requesting two women witnesses for one male witness (2:282) in a discussion, and was curious to see what my aunt and female cousin thought. While I was hoping to engage in a constructive conversation, it quickly derailed to both of them internalizing such an order, citing that “men have better memory than women”, and that “men and women are built differently to achieve different purposes”, and that “women are more emotional – once you get married, you’ll understand. These things don’t make sense to you because you’re young”. It’s one thing to see men being sexist but it’s another to see women internalize misogyny to this degree – I obviously can’t fault them since they were indoctrinated to believe that women are indeed different than men (in all ways which are convenient for that power dynamic to exist in the first place). I asked my aunt to give me a set of peer-reviewed research papers indicating clearly that women innately contain less mental capabilities than men but she has yet to follow-up. In the meantime, the rest of you can consult contemporary research which shows that women actually have better memories than men.
  3. I was playing with my 5 year old niece, and at some point, her top was raised up and a bit of her stomach showed. She quickly became upset and said “I must keep purdah!” and dragged her top down. I felt so bad to see that a child this young and innocent was already trained to be ashamed of her body and to think that she should always be covered up fully. I expect that her parents will continue to dress her this way as she gets older, and eventually she’ll be an adult who firmly believes that Allah will punish her if she does not wear the hijab. It’s in times like these that I sincerely do believe that the world would have been better if Islam had never existed: it’s now a religion which has permeated the lives of billions of women who will grow up suffering under its rulings, whether they are aware that they are actually being negatively impacted, or whether they have simply internalized it like my aunt and cousin to think it’s natural.

Moving away from my personal stories, a last point I’d like to touch on is that, for all the obsession in the Quran with whom you can have sex with (23:6) and with whom you cannot have sex with (17:32) and when you can have sex with them (2:187) and when you cannot have sex with them (2:222), it fails to mention rape. I will quote another excerpt from Ali Rizvi’s book:

Rape doesn’t exist in the Quran.

The concept of sex without consent isn’t even acknowledged as an entity. There isn’t even a word for “rape.” The word used for a sex crime is zinaa, defined as “unlawful sexual intercourse.” According to the Quran, there are only two types of unlawful sexual intercourse:

  • fornication (premarital sex)
  • adultery (extramarital sex)

Consent is simply not a factor.

This only makes sense in a book written from the point of view of men.The concept of consent was much more important to women, for obvious reasons, and sex crimes violating consent—that is, rape—are simply not acknowledged.

Back then, the male point of view was primarily concerned with establishing lineage and paternity. Men wanted to ensure that their children were indeed their own, and their heirs were genuine. Consent doesn’t interfere with this. But fornication and adultery do. This is also one of the main reasons men are allowed to have up to four wives (verse 4:3), while women can only have one husband.

This is really one of the most glaring points of the Quran: a true divine being would know that matters such as consent far outweigh fornication and adultery, which are sexual acts performed between two consenting adults. Instead of educating men that women are people and deserving of respect and fair treatment, Islam focuses on describing a punishment of 100 lashes (24:3) for those involved in consensual sex.

Does the omission of rape seem like an intentional choice from the god who was brilliant enough to conjure the big bang 14 billion years ago and engineered a species so complex that it contains 86 billion neurons?

Or does this mirror the way a male trader in 7th century Arabia would have seen the world?


I’ll end off this section with a skit as well. I hope you can appreciate how ridiculous the wife-beating verse (4:34) combined with the hedging of using a feather/toothbrush sounds:

Have I Misunderstood Islam?

Let not the believers take the disbelievers for friends, rather than the believers — for whoso does that belongs not to God in anything — unless you have a fear of [the disbelievers]. God warns you that You beware of Him, and unto God is the homecoming (3:28)

At this point, you must all be thinking: how could I possibly reject Islam?

The signs are so clear: there is absolutely no doubt that Islam is from god, and that Muhammad is his prophet.

You will probably want to diagnose me, figure out where I went wrong: was it the friends which I had? Was it because I spent too much time on the internet? Was it because I did not go to the mosque enough? Was it because I did not listen to Friday sermons?

Let’s briefly discuss a hypothetical situation: I undergo the exact same journey and research, and think critically about Islam to the exact same extent which I have actually done, but instead of rejecting my faith, I tell you all that I want to become a missionary who dedicates his life to Islam.

Would any of you raise a concern? Would any of you question my motive? Would any of you believe that I have not done enough to make such a decision? Of course not – on the contrary, you’d say Mashallah: how blessed am I to undertake such a decision after such a rigorous journey.

So why is it that when I reach a conclusion which does not align with your expectations, my journey is suddenly not sufficient?

This is a classic case of confirmation bias: you would only favour this information if it confirmed your preexisting notions, but anything which conflicts with your worldview has to be wrong.


I want you all to be honest with yourselves: have you ever critically thought about your beliefs?

Day in, day out, we take all other decisions seriously in our lives: we carefully consider whom we marry, which job to take, which city to live in, how we raise our children etc.

So why is religion the exception? Why is that we do not ask ourselves: “is this all true? or am I simply following what my parents taught me?”

How many of you can tell me that you have read through the entire Quran’s translation, especially if done during a dedicated period of time (e.g. Ramadhan)? Because that is exactly what I did, and that is exactly what led me to this conclusion.

I would love to know how you came across the countless verses describing hell in excruciating detail, the countless verses describing how god punishes disbelievers, the countless verses describing the big-breasted virgin Houris awaiting the believing men in heaven, and the countless repetitive narratives of the prophets plagiarized from the old Testament, and thought to yourself: “this is most definitely a book which only god could author”.

You read through the misogyny, the unscientific claims, the inaccurate history, the questionable morality, and you still have firm faith that the Quran is definitely from god.

I have spoken to multiple cousins and not a single one of them had read through the entire Quran. I actually had one cousin tell me: “The Quran is quite repetitive and I can’t read it for too long at a time”.

As Ali Rizvi says:

“An increasing number of Muslims today—especially in the West—know very little about their scripture or religion as it is.”


I was having a discussion online with someone who stated that misconceptions lead to rejection of faith. This was my response to him:

Sohaib Khalid Sial@sohaibology

Building a foundation in faith by removing barriers and answering misconceptions is sound advice imo. Not doing that is actually what leads to rejecting faith in most cases anyways don’t you think.

Dreamed of You@dreamed_you

You’re stating that misconception is what leads to rejection of faith when we’d argue otherwise – misconception is what leads to acceptance

It’s when you’re a child that you become Muslim – it’s when you’re an adult when you can critically determine otherwise

I’ll repeat this idea here: you were all children when you had “accepted” Islam. I am confident that I, as a 23 year old adult today, can think more critically than you could when you were 7 years old and believed Islam to be from god.

As I explained in the Introduction, indoctrination is when beliefs are taught such that they are not questioned. As children, we had no choice but to accept what our parents said because we trusted them. These beliefs soon change from ideas to truths, eventually preventing you from ever seeing otherwise.

The only way in which someone can go through such a revolutionary journey as mine is when the friction between your personal values and that of the religion becomes too apparent. You can read about some of my personal catalysts in my story. The biggest motivation for me to research Islam was actually my brother’s Nikah (religious wedding), since I knew that my family expected me to follow in his footsteps in marrying a Muslim girl and raising a Muslim family. I had realized that I knew very little about my religion and decided to learn more to not only become more knowledgeable but also more pious. Ironically, the more I learned about my faith, the further it distanced me away from it.

When I spoke to my parents about my journey and my decision, they had absolutely nothing to say in defense to all the issues and problems which I raised about Islam.

One of them actually told me that they felt uneasy with how much they agreed with me, while the other had to admit that they couldn’t answer my questions but they knew that I was wrong.

If you’re interested, this is the list of ~150 questions and concerns which I had about Islam and Ahmadiyyat: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1lN0yizQO7W0OWnop1OiPiKy-5ZojxjGUYVHewdSG9eE/edit?usp=sharing


I was raised to think you could never truly understand the Quran without knowing the Arabic language inside out. This only applied, of course, if you didn’t agree with all of it. The moment you did, your Arabic—no matter how rudimentary—was deemed fine (Ali Rizvi)

A last point which I’d like to touch on in this section is: why are people expected to be experts in Islam and Arabic when they choose to leave their religion, but there is literally no barrier to entry for someone who wants to become Muslim?

It’s counter-intuitive: disbelieving requires no assumptions, while believing actually asks of you to suspend rationality in which you choose to place faith in the invisible.

So why are so many questions being asked of me, but no one dares asks a question to, for example, all those who converted into Islam for the sake of marriage (and there are a lot of such people in my family)?

Once again, this is just confirmation bias: as humans, you favour information which aligns with your viewpoint.

At the very least, I hope this illuminates your cognitive biases and you can realize that all of this has little to do with faith but more to do with how your brain was trained to think.

As always, Veedu has an excellent humourous video about the dichotomy between those who leave Islam and those who join it:

Moving Forward

They say there’s a pot of gold at the end of every rainbow. And we’re all walking on that rainbow to get to that pot of gold. To be sure, we’re never going to reach it. But look at what we’re doing—we’re walking on the rainbow. What could be more amazing than that?

Today, we know, thanks to science, that every rainbow is a circle. It never ends. And that’s okay with me. I don’t want it to (Ali Rizvi).

So what now?

I imagine many of you will feel upset, sad, disappointed, hurt.

I imagine some of you may not want to associate yourselves, or your families, with me anymore.

It is your right to believe what you will of me, and I will respect that.

If it means anything, I am the exact same person I always was.

A lot of you had the opportunity to spend some time with me when you attended my brother’s wedding over the summer. I had already rejected Islam at that point, and I would have hoped that we still had pleasant interactions. And I hope that we can still have pleasant interactions in the future.

At the end of the day, I know that I am a good person, and I know that I will do good things in this world: the paths we take to achieve such ends, whether it involves belief or disbelief, is trivial in comparison to the impact which we have on others, because that is what truly matters.


I also want to use this space to to thank my parents for listening to me, for supporting me, and for accepting me for who I am.

I know that I am extremely fortunate to have such open-minded parents and I am truly grateful for that.

To my extended family, if any of you have read through this article and found that it has confirmed some of the questions/concerns/doubts which you had about Islam or Ahmadiyyat, I am more than happy to talk you through it. You can send me a message on my Contact page, which feeds directly to my personal email.

I want to end off this message with a brilliant speech from Mahershala Ali, who is actually an Oscar-winning Ahmadi Muslim. In his speech, he talks about how he accepted Islam while his mother was an ordain minister, and what this difference signifies to him:

But I tell you now, we put things to the side and I’m able to see her, she’s able to see me, we love each other and the love has grown, and that stuff is minutia, it’s not that important.

 

Ibrahim Noonan explains how he chased many women..then found Ahmadiyya

Intro
The Ahmadi-imam, Ibrahim Noonan is a terrible person.  He has been ordered to terrorize people on the internet, and in real life.  All of his activities are controlled by the Mirza family, they own Ahmadiyya INC.  Why are we writing this?  We have had dialogue with Noonan for a few years, Noonan is obviously a token Irish-Ahmadi, in other words, Ahmadiyya INC needed a local Irishman as a Mullah so that they could properly spread their business in Ireland with a local white spokesman.  Ahmadiyya does this in every country.  Or they try.  Nonetheless, as the essay in the below will prove, Noonan is a miscreant, who was only made a Mullah by the Mirza family, he isn’t qualified, he isn’t properly trained and one last thing, he is an idiot of epic proportions who terrorizes people on the internet, in fact, he has ordered ahmadi’s to cyber attack a fellow Irishman, watch here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qfBzwWPROIg

Related Essay’s
https://ahmadiyyafactcheckblog.com/?s=Noonan

The story is as follows
Michael Dennis Peter Noonan aka Ibrahim Noonan was a lazy fellow his entire life.  He never did any type of manual labor.  When he was 18, he was sent off to the London area to pursue college studies.  Noonan was a devout Catholic type of Christian, his parents wanted him to become a Catholic priest.  Thus, Noonan claims that in college he was studying theology, aka religious studies.

Did Noonan graduate from College?  
It’s unclear if he ever graduated.  It’s highly unlikely, we are sure that Noonan dropped out of college and began working in night clubs.  He was either a bartender or a dancer.  However, Noonan claims that he was a bouncer (security) and claims to have worked as such for 7 years.  We have to assume this was from age 18-25.  Noonan lies all the time, he claims to know Greek and Arabic, which is a total lie.  He may be able to pronounce a few words or read a few words but he is not fluent in any of those languages, in fact, his english is terrible.

He claims to have worked at a club called Hippedrom.  Then he contradicts his story, he claims to have been a bouncer in Ireland before England.  We know he never went to college and was just hanging around bars, chasing women and drinking Irish beer.

Noonan loved fighting, just like all raging drunk Irishmen
This is a snapshot into the type of man Noonan really is.  He is an average Irishman.  They love fighting, drinking beer smoking cigarettes, and chasing women.  Noonan was exactly like that, however, he lied about the drinking and smoking (he denied it in the video).

By age 25, Mr. Noonan was a lazy good for nothing
Noonan goes on to say that he finished his studies, and then began travelling the world (North Africa) with girls and thus committing adultery.  In fact, Noonan admits to committing adultery for over 10-20 years and totally living in this condition.  He then says that as he was committing adultery, he felt bad and thought it was immoral.

The real story is that Noonan met an Ahmadi girl and got her pregnant
We have inside sources that tell us that at this point in Noonan’s life, he met an Ahmadi girl and began having adultery with her.  He got her pregnant and then was forced to marry her.  She introduced Noonan to Ahmadiyya.  The story that Noonan gives is a total lie.  In fact, many years ago, we encountered Noonan’s eldest son from his first marriage on (via twitter) and he confirmed all of this.

Noonan claims that he became Ahmadi after reading Jesus in India and just 2 other books
This is the proof that Noonan is an idiot, firstly, he should have done a better investigation, secondly, he lied, he only joined for a girl and her behalf.

New data found on Noonan’s first Ahmadi wife

We found ^^^^^ those references from here
http://www.socialaffairsunit.org.uk/blog/archives/000945.php

The Ahmadi girl complained that Noonan was a lazy good for thing
The Ahmadiyya Jamaat in the UK heard about Noonan’s fake conversion to Ahmadiyya.  The local Ahmadiyya jamaat was excited that they had finally gained an Irish-white-Ahmadi.  In fact, the famous Bashir Ahmad Orchard was the first Irishman to join Ahmadiyya and he was still alive in those early days (92–96) when Noonan had just converted to Ahmadiyya.  Ahmadiyya INC hadn’t got many other Irish-white converts to Ahmadiyya and were excited showing off Noonan to the world and etc.  Noonan was thus being treated like a God by the Pakistani Ahmadi’s.  They immediately told the vicious Mirza Tahir Ahmad about Noonan.  In the meantime, Bashir Ahmad Orchard died and Ahmadiyya INC needed another local Imam to further its business practices in Ireland.  Also, in the same time frame, Noonan’s wife was tired of Noonan being lazy and just hanging around the house.  They eventually divorced.  Mirza Tahir Ahmad then told Noonan that he would personally get him a new Ahmadi wife and would even give him a job, as an Ahmadi mullah.  The rest is history.

Noonan’s current Pakistani-Ahmadi wife sells homeopathy and beefed with Fiona O’Leary
https://drive.google.com/file/d/1DHpr43ilhE7KDuj3Ec6otQGkifadjtka/view

The video clipping

The full video

Noonan and Ahmadiyya vs. Fiona O’Leary

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Hakeem Mufti Fazl ur Rehman was suspended by the Ahmadiyya Anjuman, and re-instated by MGA based on corruption

Intro
As we continue to dig into the early history of Ahmadiyya, we continue to find new facts that support the idea that the majority of MGA’s team of writers, mullahs and speakers were fast friends, and in this case relatives of Noorudin.  In this specific case, we cover Hakeem Mufti Fazl ur Rehman, he was listed amongst the first 313 companions of MGA (although 313 is only men, the women push the number past 313, perhaps at Badr only men were also counted).  See Dard, page 846, online edition.  Interestingly enough, there is another companion of MGA with almost the same name, its #246–“”Mufti Fadlur Rahman (withwife), Bhera.””(See Dard, page 851).  We are calling the first entry as the true descriptor, based on the title “Hakim”, however, this could be a double entry by the Qadiani-mullah team.

Furthermore, Nooruddin’s first wife is mentioned here, she isn’t mentioned much in Ahmadiyya literature.  Noorudin had 9 sons and 5 daughters with his first wife, Noorudin doesn’t seem to have spent much time with his family.  In 1889, he married again, we have to assume that his young wife immediately moved in with him in Jammu or wherever he was working in 1889.

Noorudin’s children from his first marriage seem to have totally rejected Ahmadiyya, within Noorudin’s lifetime even.  His children from his second wife also have left Ahmadiyya, the one daughter that married into the MGA family, her children are unaccounted for in the history of Ahmadiyya.  1. Amatul Qayyum, daughter, 2. Amatul Rashid, daughter, 3. Mirza Khalil Ahmad, son, they were born from 1914 to 1924.

The reference
MUFTI MUHAMMAD SADIQ IN HIS BOOK ZIKR E HABIB PAGE 58

The Quote
“””Hakeem Mufti Fazl ur Rehman, when he was a teacher in the Talimul Islam School, went on leave to his native town Bhera. He sta
yed there beyond the leave period. Anjuman (the governing body), issued a notice to him to resume his duties but he did not turn up to his duty, despite receipt of notice. The Anjuman placed him under suspension.
When he returned to Qadian, his maternal aunt, who happened to be his mother in law and whose name was Fatima Bibi, was with him. Fatima Bibi who was first wife of Khalifa Awwal Hakim Nuruddin, went to Hazrat Masih e Moud (MGQ) and complained that the Anjuman has dismissed her son in law from the service. Hazrat Sahib immediately wrote a letter to the Secretary of Anjuman and got him restored on the job.”””

Related essays

https://ahmadiyyafactcheckblog.com/2018/03/30/ahmadi-teachers-at-the-talim-ul-islam-high-school-were-corrupt-they-would-pass-mirza-basheer-uddin-mahmud-ahmad-even-when-he-failed/

https://ahmadiyyafactcheckblog.com/2017/06/30/the-british-govt-donated-25000-rupees-for-the-talim-ul-islam-high-school-in-qadian-in-1909/

https://ahmadiyyafactcheckblog.com/2017/01/09/fast-times-at-qadian-high-adultery-and-immorality-of-mahmud-ahmad-and-company/

 

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Ahmadi teachers at the Talim ul Islam High School were corrupt, they would pass Mirza Basheer-uddin Mahmud Ahmad, even when he failed

Intro
Ahmadiyya is a total fraud.  MGA and his family were all dummies and idiots who had no academic ability at all.  MGA’s precious “promised-son” aka Musleh Maud was a bad child, he never did anything good in his whole life, he lived the life of the son of a prophet, and indulged in women, men, drugs and everything Haraam.  In this specific reference, we have found Ahmadi-Mullahs admitting that they falsified records and passed Mirza Basheer-uddin Mahmud Ahmad even when he failed in school.  He was a student at the newly built Talim ul Islam School at Qadian, which was shut down by 1904 and never officially re-started until 1947, in Lahore.   It should be understood that Middle = eighth class age would be, about 13-14 years. Next level in pakistan, after 2 years – is interence = age of 15-16 years. another 2 years of study = FA. And another 2 years of study =BA

The story

Alfazal 2 October 1935

“””At the occasion of Nikah of Mirza Mahmood to Maryam Sidiqa daughter of Mir Mohammed Ismaeel(brother of nusrat) Mufti M Sadiq announces the Nikah and it is a long one but on page 2 Mufti sadiq says (Masih Maood instructed me to learn Ibrani Language. There was written in sacred books of Ibrani, that first Masih did not marry (Hazrat eisa AS) but 2nd masih will marry and will have siblings, and his son will be his successor. Since that time i knew that you shall be Khalifa. People who rejected your khilafat are very unfortunate. Today blessings of Khilafat are appearing like the sun. Today, for the propagation of Islam, the missionaries are spread in all the countries, and the work is done in such a way, Islamic history of thousand years cannot show that example. All this is being achieved with the blessing of that one pure soul (mirza ghulam). Allah granted everything to you himself. Hazrat Masih was not student of any one. The same away you (mirza mahmood) were not student of any teacher. There is not doubt that you used to go to school, and you were my (mufti sadiq) student too, I was the headmaster in those days or moulvi sher Ali was the headmaster (here mufti sadiq is not sure who was the head master) you used to come to school those days, but you would FAIL every year but we used to promote you to the next year because you were the son of hazrat masih maood. You took an exam of Middle and i went with you, but you fail, then you took an exam of interenc and again you failed”””

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Dear readers, we have found a she-male at Qadian, a relative of Pir Siraj-ul-Haq Nu’mani


Intro

Dear reader’s, from time to time we come across new data on Ahmadiyya.  Recently we found a website which is dedicated to the off-spring of an Ahmadi family, the family of Chaudhry Maula Bakhsh Sahib Bhatti Sialkoti.

 

On that website we found the above picture
As we were surfing this website, we came across an interesting picture.  This picture was taken after the death of Maulvi Abdul Karim, if you notice, it was saved since Chaudhry Maula Bakhsh Sahib Bhatti Sialkoti is in this picture.  In fact, he is sitting directly next to MGA.  We also notice that there are a few unknown people in this picture.  This is impossible, since barely 20 different people ever took picture with MGA in his lifetime.  We believe that Ahmadiyya leadership know who these people are but refuse to acknowledge them for whatever reasons.

A she-male is also a close companion of MGA
MGA never had any pictures taken of his wife, his daughters, or any “women of his house” in Qadian.  Taking pictures of Muslim women in Qadian was taboo and never happened.  In fact, all the women of MGA’s family never had any pictures taken even uptil 2018.  So who is this she-male looking person?  In the Urdu caption it is written that this was a relative of Pir Siraj-ul-Haq-Nu’mani, who was a super-close companion of MGA, in fact, he wrote all of the letters that MGA was given credit for.  However, in those days it was common for someone to dictate what should be written and sent out in letters.  Nonetheless, he answered all of MGA’s mail, the same way that the modern-day Khalifa has his secretary answer his mail.

Pir Siraj-ul-Haq Num’ani lives with MGA
Based on all of the data that we have seen, which covers the immoral life of MGA and his sons, we are concluding that this she-male was a sex-slave of Pir Siraj-ul-Haq-Nu’mani, and was thus living with him, inside of MGA’s house.  Further, MGA was always getting massaged from Pir Siraj-ul-Haq-Nu’mani and many other men and women.  We are concluding that MGA’s house was a sex den, wherein men, women, the trans-gendered and she-males were frolicking freely and massages and sex were normal.

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Some testimonies on the immoral life of Mirza Mahmud Ahmad

Intro
Mirza Mahmud Ahmad was a terrible person, he was even worse then his father, Mirza Ghulam Ahmad.  Some time back, an old Ahmadiyya awareness site published a series of testimonials i in this regard, we have posted them in the below.

Link—-http://ahmedi.org/ahmediorg/eart/K2Allegations/page/1.htm

Testimonials

AHMADI MAHMOODI FRIENDS…LOOK AT YOUR KHALIFA SANI AND DECIDE WAS HE KHALIFA SANI OR KHALIFA ZANI? SWORN TESTIMONIALS THAT MIRZA MAHMUD NEVER REPLIED. MAHMDUIES (QADIANIS) STILL OWE THE REPLY. TESTIMONIALS TO PROVE MIRZA MAHMUD AHMAD [MMA] THE SO-CALLED ‘MUSLEH MAHUD’ COMMITTED INCEST, SODOMY, ADULTERY, RAPE, ORGIES AND DEBAUCHERY.
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Including the testimonials based on testimonies of Amat-ul-Rashid Begum (wife of Mian Abdul Rahim Ahmad) daughter of Mirza Mahmud Ahmad, Mirza Hanif Ahmad son of Mirza Mahmud Ahmad, and Sister in Law of Mirza Mahmud Ahmad i.e. wife of Dr. Abdul Latif.

Introduction: Following are extracts of some of testimonials collected and published in the book ‘Tarikh-I-Mahmudiyyat Kay Chand Ahem Magir Posheeda Auraq-Hissa Awal’ (Translation: Few Hidden But Important Pages Of History Of Mahmudiyyat-Part One). Published by Ansar-I-Ahmadiyya.
For the purpose of brevity I am not translating the detail introduction of the witnesses. Rather, just a brief introduction. Also to avoid repeating I will not write the oath that every witness took before recording his testimonial. The oath is combination of sentences like: I swear on the name of Allah SWT who is my creator and creator of universe, He is my master and He is in command of my life and death. If I lie, I invite His wrath on me and my family, If I lie, I and my family may be destroyed etc. Those readers who are interested to read in detail, I refer them to above referenced book.

NOTE: ALL OF THESE TESTIMONIALS WERE PUBLISHED AND DISTRIBUTED IN THE LIFE TIME OF MIRZA MAHMUD AHMAD, AMONG HIS FOLLOWERS, WHEN HE WAS KHALIFA OF AHMADIYYA MOVEMENT IN ISLAM [AMII] BOTH IN THE QADIAN AND IN THE RABWAH.

History of AMII is witness to the fact that MMA never dared to accept these challenges he just tried to ignore them, with the hope that these allegations will die down with the passage of time. He did not even appoint the commission, to investigate the allegations made against his own character. Nor he followed any other course to get him self honorably acquitted of these horrendous allegations. Instead he ordered murder, social boycott, and harassment of those who were questioning his character.

MOMENT OF THOUGHT: AMII and their Khalifas have been propagating for the last 87 years that their Jamaat spreads only Love and Peace. And they take very well care of its members etc. By reading the following testimonials AMII members will see the other horrific side of AMII. Readers will see the cruelty and immorality rampant in the ruling Khalifa family of AMII.

Testimonial Number 1: Today, I again announce through advertisement and challenge Khalifa of Qadian [Mirza Mahmud Ahmad–MMA] if there is one grain of truth in his claims, then he should conduct a ‘Dua-I-Mubailiah’ (Prayer Dual) to acquit himself from the allegations leveled against his character and conduct. So that the one who is liar gets the wrath of Allah SWT and dies in the life time of the other who is true. And the world in the result of this makes the clear judgment between the truth and the false hood.
Former slave of the Caliph of the Qadian, Mian Muhammad Zahid. (Reference: Mubailiah Newspaper).

Testimonial Number 2: I often use to hear from my ‘Sihalian’ (female friends of females) that Mian sahib [MMA] is adulterer. But I could not believe it. My father was a very sincere Ahmadi. Before making any decision he used to ask Hazrat sahib [MMA] permission. My father once asked me to deliver one letter to MMA (at that time he use to live in Kasre-Khilafat, {Palace of Caliph} Qadian), in that he asked for his permission����. When I delivered letter to him [MMA], he asked me to wait here, and further said, “I will be back, two men are waiting for me outside”. He stepped outside the room and after few minutes after bolting all the rooms behind the room in which I was waiting, entered inside. He also shut and bolted the outside door of this room too. This room in which I was standing was the 4th room on the inside. When I saw this situation, I got scared and started wondering. Then, Mian sahib [MMA] started teasing me and asked me to do bad acts. I refused and resisted. He finally pushed me on the bed and raped me. His breath was stinking, I felt dizzy. He was using foul and vulgar language. Probably, he had drunk some thing that is called alcohol, as his senses were not normal. Then he threatened me, “if you will tell it to any one, it will be you who will be defamed and will get bad reputation, no one will doubt on me”.
Note: Name of the witness is not disclosed at this time. If MMA gets ready for Mubailiah then the name will be disclosed.
Reference: ‘Hazrat Mirza Ghulam Ahmad (Maseeh Mahud) Kee Tahreehroon Mein Mirza Mahmud Ahmad Kee Tasweer (Translation: In the writing of Hazrat Mirza Ghulam Ahmad (Promised Messiah), the picture of Mirza Mahmud Ahmad).

Testimonial Number 3: My stay in Qadian is the cause of loss in my faith in Caliph of Qadian. [MMA]. If I had stayed far from Qadian like other Qadiani brothers, then I would not have been exposed to dark secrets of this business group [The Qadiani Khilafat system]. Or if I had built my house in Qadian or if I had accepted the employment of Caliph of Qadian, then I would not have dared to make this announcement ����..
Shaikh Mushtaq Ahmad. Ahmadiyya Dawa Ghar (Ahmadiyya Drug Store), Qadian. 

Testimonial Number 4: With my belief that Allah SWT is present and is watching me, I swear on His name, and to swear on whose name and then lie is the work of cursed ones. I give the testimony. I am confident and I have this belief that current Caliph MMA is a worldly man, he is pervert, he is worshipper of luxury and comfort. About his perversion I am ready to take oath whether it is in house of Allah i.e. mosque or Kabbah Sharif (in Makkah) or some other sacred place. All the time I am ready to take oath with the invitation of Allah’s wrath on me. If Caliph sahib is ready for Mubailiah then I am ready and present for Mubailiah. I have written these words with my hearty intention so that truth can be seen by others.
Wasalaam.
Dr. Muhammad Abdulah, Eye hospital, Qadian, Currently in Lailpur (Faisalabad). 

Testimonial Number 5: I bear witness that Allah is present and is watching me, I swear that current caliph MMA is worldly man, he is worshipper of comfort and luxury, he is a pervert man. I am all the time ready for Mubailah with him.
Mistri Allah Bakash Ahmadi, Qadian.

Testimonial Number 6: Sister in law of MMA i.e. wife of Dr Abdul Latif. MMA caliph of Rabwah is pervert, adulterer human. I have personally witnessed him committing adultery. I take oath by placing my hand on my two sons and invite wrath of Allah SWT.
Mrs. Dr. Abdul Latif (husband of sister of wife of MMA).

Testimonial Number 7: After satisfying myself according to Sharia (Islamic Law) and knowing that Allah is present and watching me, I say that current Caliph sahib i.e. MMA’s character is extremely bad. If he shows inclination towards mubailiah, then with the grace of Allah I am ready all the time to have mubailiah with him.
Wasalaam,
Abdur Rab Khan Berham. (He used to work in the office of Sadar Anjuman office Bait-Ul-Mal. He used to live in the portion of Sir, Muhammad Zafar Ullah Khan bungalow. He was also breast fed by MMA sister. He was very close to MMA family).

Testimonial Number 8: My reason for leaving the Qadiani Jamaat [Ahmadiyya Movement In Islam-Headed by MMA] is black works and bad works of MMA. This is a fact that Khalifa sahib [MMA] is not sacred and not a holy man. Rather, he is a pervert man. If Khalifa sahib is ready to make a decision on this issue, then I am ready to accept challenge of Mubailiah.
Atiq Ur Rehman. Former Mubaligh Jamaat Ahmadiyya, Qadian.

Testimonial Number 9: I swear on the name of Allah who is present and watching me, and write this statement. My mother narrated to me that she used to live in the house of Khalifa MMA, she said: I have witnessed that MMA use to mesmerize young non Mehram girls (the girls with whom marriage is allowed in Islam) and put them to sleep. Then you use to pinch them with fingers on different parts of their body. Still they did not wake up.
(ii) Once I was climbing the stairs in the house of MMA that from the upper floor MMA was coming down the stairs. When we came across each other, he [MMA] grabbed my breast. I had to release my self with force.
Ali Hassain.

Testimonial Number 10: By real brother of famous Qadiani Mubaligh (missionary) Malik Abdur Rehman Khadam Gujrati, author of ‘Ahmadiyya Pocket Book’. I swear on the name of Allah. Those who take false oath on His name are cursed ones. Dr Nazir Ahmad Riaz, waqaf-e-zindigi in Rabwah and currently stationed in Rawalpindi, in my presence in my house in Lahore has narrated many incidences, that convinces that MMA is first rate pervert. In front of me and other friends he has stated with explanation that MMA along with his wives in an organized plan regularly commits adultery and orgies. Doctor sahib has further stated that he has personally witnessed these sessions of orgies with his own eyes. If Dr. Nazir Ahmad denies this statement, then I will challenge him for Mubailiah. More over, since I use to work as superintendent in the office of the private secretary of Khalifa sahib. So, I had many chances to observe the MMA very closely. In this regard I am myself in addition to being ready to do mubailiah on his character. I am also ready to mubailiah on his claim of ‘Musleh Mahud’, all the time.
Malik Aziz Ur Rehman.
Former Superintendent in the office of private secretary and In-charge of Foreign missions accounts.

Testimonial Number 11: I bear witness that Holy Prophet Muhammad SAWS is messenger of Allah SWT and last and final prophet. Islam is a true religion. I believe that Ahmadiyyat is truth. I believe in the claims of Hazrat Mirza Ghulam Ahmad Qadiani. I believe him to be the Promised Messiah. After this I take oath and invite Allah’s wrath on me if I lie. I with my knowledge, observation, and after witnessing with my own eyes, and knowing that Allah SWT is present and is watching me, I say under oath that Mirza Bashir Ud Din Mahmud Khalifa of Rabwah [MMA] in his presence in front of his own eyes with his own will has made his wife to commit adultery with a ‘Ghair Mard’ (i.e. with a strange man). If I am taking a false oath than may Allah’s wrath and curse descent on me. I am ready to take oath against MMA on this point.
(Signature).
Mohammad Yousaf Naz c/o Abdul Qadir
Terath Singhjey Awami Road
behind Shalimar Hotel, Karachi.
(Reference: In the writings of Hazrat Mirza Ghulam Ahmad (Promised Messiah), picture of Mirza Mahmud Ahmad).

Testimonial Number 12: Current Khalifa [MMA] is extremely pervert man. He behind the veil of spirituality hunts women. For this purpose he has appointed few men and few women as his agents. Through them he gets hold of innocent girls and innocent boys. He has made a society that has men and women as its members and in this society adultery is committed i.e. orgies and debauchery is committed in a group settings. Shaikh Abdur Rehman Misri. Maulvi Fazil, BA. Co worker and companion of MMA in his trip to England in 1924.
Former acting Ameer of Qadian Jamaat.
(Reference: ‘Door-I-Hazir Kah Mazhabi Amar. (Translation: Religious Tyrant Of Current Era)).

Testimonial Number 13: I take oath on the Uniqueness of Allah SWT, I take oath on the truthfulness of Holy Quran, I take oath on the innocence of Holy Prophet Muhammad SAWS. I according to my definite knowledge, I consider Mirza Bashir Ud Din Mahmud Ahmad [MMA], Khalifa Rabwah to be impure human. I stand on my conviction. I am convinced that a firry speaker like you [MMA] who has been deprived of power to speak, and is suffering from other diseases e.g. stroke is definitely punishment from Allah�. Other than this your most sincere ‘mureeds’ (slaves) have told me unbelievable secrets about you. E.g. Your sincere slave Mr. Muhammad Saddiq Shams, has repeatedly given me arguments to prove that your character is UnIslamic. In this regard he has shown me your private letters. Here as a caution I think it is important to write that if Mr. Muhammad Saddiq Shams has objection in the truth of my statement then I am ready to do Mubailiah with him on the veracity of my statement. Abdul Majeed Akabar.
House Number 5, Block D, Temple Road, Lahore. 

Testimonial Number 14: I take oath on the name of Allah SWT, who is present and is watching me, in his control is my life, Who is all powerful and the punisher. Those who take false oath on His name are the cursed ones. I give this statement: >From 1932 to 1936 I use to live in the house of Mirza Ghull Muhammad in Qadian. During this time, many times on the instructions of a woman namely Aziza Begum, I use to take her letters as per her instructions in a secret way, with out mentioning about them to any one to Khalifa MMA. Khalifa MMA in the same way while repeating the same instructions like the one of Aziza Begum use to send the reply. (Letters use to be in English). Other than this, 10 o’clock at night, I use to escort this woman through the external route, when ever her husband had gone out of town. This woman use to do unusual make up, when ever she visited MMA’s office. As per instructions I use to escort her back after one hour or two hours. Other than these incidences I have come to conclusion that MMA character is very bad and for this I am ready to do Mubailiah with him any time.
Hafiz Abdul Salam s/o Hafiz Sultan Hamid Khan.
Teacher of Mian Nasir Ahmad (i.e Mirza Nasir Ahmad-3rd Khalifa of Qadiani Jamaat). 

Testimonial Number 15: I take oath on the name of Allah SWT, knowing that He is present and is watching me. I have witnessed with my own eyes, when MMA was committing adultery with Sadiqa. If I lie then Allah’s curse be on me. Ghulam Hussain Ahmadi. Testimonial Number 16: I believe from my heart that MMA is highly pervert man and low character man. Countless eye witness testimonies that has reached me, and that I am ready to believe that MMA commits adultery and sodomies. To prove that I believe this from my heart. Therefore, I am ready to challenge MMA to do Mubailiah with me on his character. Mirza Munir Ahmad Naseer. Testimonial Number 17: I on oath knowing that Allah SWT is present and watching, say that I have my self with my own eyes seen Mirza Bashir Ud Din Mahmud [MMA] committing adultery. If I lie in this regard then may Allah’s curse fall on me.
Shaikh Bashir Ahmad Misri son of Shaikh Abdul Rehman Misri.

Testimonial Number 18: I take oath on the name of Allah SWT. I know that He is present and watching me. I know those who take false oath on his name are the cursed ones. I write this statement that I separated from my ba’it (pledge) of MMA because true details of incidences against MMA, reached me. These incidents involved Ahmadi boys, girls and women with whom MMA has committed sodomy and adultery. Based on these reasons I wrote to MMA that against you Ahmadi boys, girls and women give details of incidences and give their statements. In this situation either you constitute a commission and present the case to it or get ready for Muabiliah. Either you take an oath or give us a chance to take oath on the occasion of annual Jalsah (convention) in presence of all the Ahmadis. So, that these every day fights end and truth prevails. But MMA did not dare to follow any course instead he adopted the technique of Kuffar (infidels in time of Holy Prophet Muhammad SAWS) and ordered Social Boycott. >From 1937 up to today I have a belief that MMA is adulterer and pervert man. He has no association with Allah SWT, Holy Prophet Muhammad SAWS and his servant Hazrat Promised Messiah. If I am liar in my belief, then may Allah’s curse fall on me.
Hakim Abdul Aziz.
Former superintendent, Anjuman Insar Ahmadiyya, Qadian.

Testimonial Number 19: I make this statement with the knowledge that Allah SWT is present and is watching me. And to take false oath on the name of Allah SWT is a great sin. I state that I have seen with my own eyes MMA committing adultery. I also accept that he committed sodomy with me too. If I lie then may Allah’s curse fall on me. From my child hood I use to live there.
Munir Ahmad.

Testimonial Number 20: The older son of Abdur Rehman Misri sahib, Mr. Hafiz Bashir Ahmad in front of me took Holy Quran in his hands and said these words: Allah SWT should destroy me, if I lie that MMA committed sodomy with me. I swear on the name of Allah, while I am wrting this incidence.
Muhammad Abdullah Ahmadi.
Cement Furniture House, Muslim Town, Lahore.

Testimonial Number 21: Mirza Ghull Muhammad sahib was a wealthy resident of Qadian. He was owner of huge property. He was member of Mirza Ghulam Ahmad sahib’s family. His second widow (younger wife) told me: I have personally seen with my own eyes MMA committing adultery with his own daughter, and also with some other women. Once I asked him, “Hazur what is this”? MMA replied, “Quran and Hadith permits this. But it is prohibited to spread it in public”. (Nauzubilah Min Zalik). I am writing this statement under oath, knowing that Allah SWT is present and is watching this, so that may be my Muslim sisters and brothers learn some thing from this.
Sincerely,
Syedah Ume Salih Bint Syed Ibrar Hussain.
Saman Abad, Lahore.

Testimonial Number 22: Based on the testimony of Mirza Hanif Ahmad son of MMA. I swear on the name of Allah SWT, with the full knowledge that he is present and is watching me. And those who take false oath on his name are the cursed ones. I state that Sufi Roshan Deen sahib who use to work on the wheat grinding mill (Chaki) of AMII in Rabwah as mechanic (Mistri). He is long time former resident of Qadian. He is a sincere Ahmadi. He had close relations with the MMA and some other members of his family. Especially, Mirza Hanif Ahmad son of MMA, had extremely sincere relations with respected Sufi Roshan Deen sahib. Because of this respect from his heart Mirza Hanif Ahmad use to visit Sufi sahib every day and stay with him for hours in his house. Some time he used to take Sufi sahib to his room in Kasre-Khilafat [Palace of Caliph-i.e. MMA residence], and entertain him there. Sufi sahib has told me many times that Mirza Hanif Ahmad swears on the name of Allah SWT, “The person who you believe is ‘Musleh Mahud’ commits adultery”. Mirza Hanif Ahmad has seen with his own eyes, his father [MMA] committing adultery. Sufi sahib further said that he has asked Mirza Hanif Ahmad that before he makes such a severe allegations about his father, he should put concentrate on his memory, as it may not be the case that the woman you are thinking is stranger might be one of his mothers. It may not happen that you come under the wrath of Allah SWT. On hearing this, still Mirza Hanif Ahmad was consistent under oath on his eye witnessed testimony, and he kept saying that his father is not of pure character. He further said that he has never observed any miracle of his father. Though, he [MMA] has extreme obsession that some how he gets worldly control. If I am lying in my statement, and my only objective is to dodge members of Jammat [AMII], then may Allah befall his exemplary wrath on me, my wife, and my children. So that it strengthens the faith in every sincere follower. Yes, in addition I am witness to financial embezzlements, financial irregularities and dishonesty of this so called Caliph [MMA]. I am eye witness to all this. Because this humble one has worked nine and half years in ‘Tahreek-I-Jadeed’ [Branch of AMII that deals with its foreign branches and collects money from those branches, and keeps its account in head quarter] other departments of AMII, in the capacity of an accountant and junior auditor.
Sincerely,
Chaudhry Ali Muhammad.
Former Waqif-e-Zindghi. Currently, special correspondent Kohistan. Lailpur.

Testimonial Number 23: Based on the testimony of Amat-ul-Rashid Begum (wife of Mian Abdul Rahim Ahmad) daughter of MMA. I take oath on the name before transcribing few sentences, so that people who still believe in the sacredness of MMA the Caliph of Rabwah, it becomes a guidance for them. If I lie in my following statement then may Allah’s curse fall on me and my family. I am Ahmadi by birth. Up until 1957 I was associated with the Caliph hood of MMA. MMA based on his self hatched conspiracy expelled me from Rabwah Jamaat. By stepping out side the environment of Rabwah, I got informed about the extreme conditions about the character of MMA. Hearing this I met with daughter of MMA, Mrs. Amat-ul-Rashid Begum, wife of Mian Abdur Rahim Ahmad. She confirmed pervert, promiscuous character of MMA. We had lot of talk, one especially most important is when I asked Amat-ul-Rashid Begum, “Does your husband know these conditions”? She replied, “Saleh Noor sahib, what should I tell you? What our father has been doing to us? If I tell all those details to my husband, he won’t even let me live in my house even for one minute. Then where I will go”. With this tears came into the eyes of Amat-ul Rashid. Hearing this earth shattering words, I could not control my self. So I got up and went into the other room. Based on these information, I believe in what I have heard from Dr. Nazir Ahmad Riaz, Muhammad Yousaf Naz, Raja Bashir Ahmad Razi. I say with my full belief and complete confidence that MMA is pervert, and promiscuous man. Based on these character qualities he is today caught in the curse of Allah SWT.
Sincerely,
Muhammad Saleh Noor, Waqif-e-Zindghi.
Former worker of Waqalat-I-Taleem Tahreek-I-Jadeed.
Former personal assistant to Mian Abdur Rahim Ahmad (Son in law of MMA).

Testimonial Number 24: Introduction: Dr. Nazir Ahmad Riaz was Maulvi Fazil, Waqif-e-Zindghi, special physician to Khalifa Rabwah. MMA himself paid expenses from AMII funds for Medical education of Dr. Riaz. Dr. Riaz had special expertise in venereal diseases. For a long time he use to be member of inner circle of MMA����he was thoroughly well informed of the inside details of MMA house. He was eye witness to many secrets. He was special confidant of MMA. About MMA principle Dr Riaz wrote: When I use to live in Rabwah, I use to have special relation with MMA. Together we use to have good time. Some time we use to get to talk about poetry, some time we use to poke fun on the false sacredness of MMA. MMA’s principle is: Muust Rakho Zikar-o-Fikar Subah Ghahi Mein Inhein Aur Pukhta Kar Dhu Mizaj-e-Khankahi Mein Inhein (Josh) Aur Khud Khoob Rung Ralian Munao Aish-o-Ishrat Mein Basar Karoh ���
Yours, Riaz (Dr. Nazir Ahmad Riaz).

Testimonial Number 25: If I lie, may Allah SWT curse fall on me. Mr. Ghulam Hussains Ahmadi writes: Beside my own testimony I mentioned about Habib Ahmad Ijaz. He took me to Qadian. I inquired from him, after making him take the oath. After swearing he told me, ” MMA twice did ‘Mundabazi’ (Sodomy) with me. First time in Kasre-Khilafat (Qadian) and second time in Dilhozee (Hill resort in India). When I asked for written testimony, he did not write with detail, rather an incomplete one.
Following is the statement of Habib Ahmad Ijaz:
Bismillah-Ir-rahman-Ir-rahim
In respect of Mr. Brother Ghulam Hussain sahib.
Aslaam Alikum.
What I have told you��..with the knowledge that Allah SWT is present and watching, I say that it is very true. And if I lie, may Allah’s curse fall on me.
Sincerely, Habib Ahmad Ijaz.

Testimonial Number 26: In the days when I use to live in the Rabwah in quarters constructed from mud. I use to live opposite to Kasre-Khilafat. Near by was the house of Shaikh Noor-Ul-Haq Ahmad “Ahmadiyya Syndicate”. When I became friend with him, he mentioned to me about the interests of MMA. In the light of this information my objective of ‘Waqif-e-Zindghi’ seemed useless to me. For such a big allegation, mere statement of Shaikh sahib was not enough. May Lord have mercy. Dr. Nazir Ahmad Riaz, through whose friend ship, I had a chance to spend few moments in the ‘personal house of sin’ of MMA. After that any praise or testimony to testify good character of MMA was not enough for me. Now with the blessings of Allah SWT I am an un shakable witness on the pervert and promiscuous character of MMA. I am a man with experience in life. All these orgies are done in a thought out organized scheme. There is no issue of chance or mistake. The days when I use to live there ‘Mahasib Kah Gharial’ (Clock of the custodian of treasury in Rabwah that sounded with the bang hourly) had the status of standard time.** I don’t know what is the procedure now. On my this statement if any one challenges me, then I am ready to take oath with the invitation to Allah SWT wrath in case I lie.
Waslam, Bashir Ahmad Razi, B. Com.
Former Junior Auditor Sadar Anjuman Ahmadiyya, Rabwah.
** By ‘Mahasib Kah Gharial’ it meant that if some person is invited in the ‘personal house of sin’ of MMA, at 9 PM, no matter if it is already 9 PM on his watch, he can not enter inside, unless it is time on the ‘Mahasib Kah Gharial’.

Testimonial Number 27: Introduction: Late Khan Bahadar Abu Al Hashim was father of Chaudhry Salahuddin Nasir Bengali. He lead the Ahmadiyya Jamaat in Bengal�� When he retired, along with his whole family he settled in Qadian. In the Sector (Muhalah) ‘Darul-Anwah’ he constructed a fine bungalow. His family had close relations with MMA family. Later the children and widow moved to Rabwah and lived in the quarters constructed from mud�..���Because of close relations with family of MMA and beside working in different offices of AMII, Chaudhry Salahuddin Nasir Bengali came to know about the pervert life of MMA. When he got sure about the promiscuous life of MMA, he decided to leave Rabwah. In a secret way, at night in darkness he along with his sisters and mother left Rabwah for Lahore. There he started writing openly in newspapers and delivering lectures exposing the dirty, pervert, promiscuous life style of MMA. He was the first General secretary of Haqiqat Passand Party. Chaudhry Salahuddin Nasir Bengali wrote in newspapers: “Qadiani Jamaat has a secret organization namely ‘Fidayan-I-Ahmadiyyat’, that need to be exposed. This consists of masked, dangerous young men. Who are in favor of physical torture. They eliminate any one who discloses their secret. This organization has killed number of people” Reference: Nawa-I-Pakistan April 21, 1957. “Chaudhry Salahuddin Nasir Bengali in his speech said, ” In the veil of sacredness what ever we have seen is the cause of our disassociation with the Jamaat [AMII]”. He further said, “I am young member of very decent family of East Pakistan. And I have left the Jamaat because of the embezzlements of MMA. And with honesty I believe that his Khilafat is an open sample of tyranny””.
Reference: Nawa-I-Pakistan. April 28, 1957.

Testimonial Number 28: Introduction: Dr. Mir Muhammad Ismaeel sahib is maternal uncle and father in law of Mirza Mahmud Ahmad. He wrote in AMII newspaper: “��..One major allegation is that Khalifa [MMA] is promiscuous. About this I would say that I am a physician, and I know that those people who are promiscuous and indulge in promiscuity even for few days, their condition becomes what is called in English language ‘wreck’. Such person’s brain does not work. His intelligence is messed up. His movements are not normal. In short his all powers are destroyed. By observing him from his head to toe, immediately makes it clear that this man has destroyed himself by indulging himself in to promiscuity. Therefore it is said, “Adultery uproots the person from his foundation (Quote from Holy Quran)” “. Reference: Al-Fazil. July 10, 1937 Quotes of Mirza Mahmud Ahmad: “Because of this nutrition does not get to my brain. Physicians were of the opinion that with in few weeks my mental condition will get back to normal. So far what ever, improvement took place, its speed is not fast enough���.I can walk couple of steps with people’s help, that too is with difficulty. Condition of my brain and tongue is such that I cannot deliver sermon even for few moments. Physicians have strictly prohibited me from doing any such work that require mental exercise.”
(ii) To confirm Dr. Mir Muhammad Ismaeel sahib’s statement, let’s hear from the tongue of MMA: “I had the stroke (paralysis). Now I am disabled even for ‘Paakhana, Peshab’ (to shit and urinate), and depend on others for this. I can not walk even two steps”. Reference: Al-Fazil April 12, 1955.
(iii) On 26th February, around Mughrib Time (sunset time), I had an attack of paralysis on the left side of my body. For sometime I was absolutely disabled with my hand and foot. There was a pause in my mental activity. And my brain has stopped working. At this time I am absolutely sick and I can not think even for a single minute”
Reference: Al-Fazil April 26, 1955.
WITH THIS I LEAVE THE DECISION WITH THE READERS ABOUT THE CHARACTER, BELIEFS, AND TEACHINGS OF MMA.

I request the AMII readers to ponder on the verses of Holy Quran, and know that only you, yourselves will be answerable for your beliefs and actions in this world. Your excuse that your leaders, Qadiani Khalifas, parents, asked you to follow what they preach, will not help you on the day of judgment. Nor your Qadiani Khalifas, leaders, will take the responsibility of straying you i.e. their followers. Rather they will exempt them from responsibility by saying, when the guidance from Allah SWT came to their followers, then it belief becomes the responsibility of individual.

NOW I GIVE CHALLENGE TO ALL THE QADIANI JAMAAT (AMII)MEMBERS TO ASK THEIR QADIANI KHALIFA IV MIRZA TAHIR AHMAD, HIS BROTHERS MIRZA RAFI AHMAD, MIRZA RAFIQ AHMAD AND ANY OTHER BROTHER OR SISTER OF MIRZA TAHIR AHMAD OR THEIR SONS AND DAUGHTERS TO TAKE OATH ON HOLY QURAN AND SAY THE FOLLOWING STATEMENT: 
I………..TAKE OATH ON HOLY QURAN AND INVITE ALLAH SWT WRATH TO DESTROY ME, MY FAMILY, MY CHILDREN IF I LIE. I TAKE OATH ON HOLY QURAN AND SAY THAT ALL THE ABOVE SWORN TESTIMONIAL THAT ARE PUBLISHED IN THE REFERRED BOOK ARE NOTHING BUT LIE AND I DENY ALL THIS. I TAKE OATH ON HOLY QURAN AND SAY THAT MIRZA MAHMUD AHMAD WAS A PIOUS MAN OF GOD WHO NEVER COMMITTED ANY OF THE ABOVE MENTIONED SEXUAL AND OTHER IMMORAL CRIMES. I WILL REQUEST TO QADIANI JAMAAT MEMBER THAT HE SHOULD THEN REPRODUCE HERE THE OATH BY THE PERSON WHO TAKES IT UNDER OATH WITH OUT MAKING ANY CHANGE.

Please, don’t say that “Hazoor” is TOO BUSY and sick etc to take such oath. There are many other members of Qadiani Khalifa Khandan who have lot of time at their hand and are not busy. My Qadiani friend when you will never find ONE person in WHOLE Khalifa Khandan to take such oath, you will know find the truth of above testimonials. Good Luck with your efforts to convince ONE MEMBER of Khalifa Khandan to take this Oath.

 

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