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Mirza Ghulam Ahmad wrote vulgarities in Arabic also, new research from Arab Ex-Ahmadi’s

As we all know, after MGA claimed to be the Messiah in later 1890, he began a tirade of vulgar remarks towards those who rejected him.  He even wrote out 1000 “lanaats” in 1894 as he was raging out of control.  Nur ul Haq was an Arabic only book, however, there seems to have also been an urdu translation given with the original book.  Our Arabic ex-Ahmadi friends like Hani Tahir and Ikrima Najami have been going through MGA’s arabic books and giving us some quotes which have never been given to the world ever before.  These quotes are vulgar, you have been warned.  Some other publications are also quoted.   Additional quotes from Nurul-Haq can be found here.  In 1892-1893, he used the term “Zurrayatul Baghaya” (children of prostitues) as he described in Arabic those who had rejected his claims of Messiah-ship.  It should be remembered that there were barely 300 Ahmadi’s in those days.  MGA then used the phrase “ibn-Bagha” as he referred to Maulvi Sa’dullah (in Anjam-e-Athim, 1897, (arabic only book), in his poetry.  However, after Sa’dullah died in 1907, Muhammad Ali advised MGA to not reproduce that exact quote.

Some quotes from Nur ul Haq

“Like a man who eats feces (poo/shit) for a long time, and thinks of it as nice and

good food, … do you eat shit, you who is the shit of the malicious people? … he said

i would not eat shit”

(MGA’s arabic book nur alhaq page 115)

“كمثل رجلٍ كان يأكل البُرازَ مِن مدة مديدة، ويحسبه من أغذيةٍ لطيفةٍ جديدةٍ، … أتأكل البراز يا بُرازَ الخبيثين؟

…. قال إني ما آكل البراز”. (نور الحق، ص 115)

MGA says _____________________________________________________________________________________________

“if you remove the poo/shit from the toilet but some of its particles remained, would you eat there? As well, if the remains of filth stay in the heart, the angels of mercy

would not enter it. (AL-HAKAM NO. 39, page 8, NO. 31/10/1902)

“إذا أزيل البراز من المرحاض وبقيت فيه بعض أجزائه، هل يستسيغ أحد أن يأكل الطعام هنالك؟ كذلك إذا

بقيت في القلب شوائب القذارة لما دخله ملائكة الرحمة”. (الحكم، مجلد6، رقم39، صفحة 8، عدد: 31/10/1902م)

MGA says

“who their eyes commit adultery, and their hearts are more unclean than feces/poo/shit, and those who never mention death, by god, I am innocent of them … they are like a mouse that grow up in darkness”. (MGA’s arabic book تذكرة الشهادتين page 119)

“الذين عيونهم تزني، وقلوبهم أكثر نجاسة من البراز، والذين لا يذكرون الموت أبداً، فإنني وربي بريء منهم. …إنما هم كالفأر الذي يتربى في الظلام”. (تذكرة الشهادتين، ص 119)


MGA says

“There is no doubt that Allah has blackened their faces with humiliation, this is what is called good ripe fruit for MUBAHALA, and this is the divine support, but holding on

to lying is like eating shit and manure”. (عاقبة آتهم، ص 243)

“لا شك أن الله تعالى قد سوّد وجوههم بذلة. فهذا ما يسمى ثمارا ناضجة طيبة للمباهلة. وهذا هو التأييد الإلهي، أما التمسك بالكذب تكلّفا فهو أكْل البراز والروث”. (عاقبة آتهم، ص 243)

MGA says

“And fall like flies on the pus, mucus and the shit of people, and leave roses ……”. (حمامة البشرى، ص 158)

“ويسقطون كالذباب على قَيح ومُخاط وبُراز الناس، ويتركون وَرداً وريحانا ومسكا وعنبرا وأنهارَ ماءٍ مَعين”.

حمامة البشرى، ص 158)

MGA says

“His body is now of a special kind so that he no longer needs food, nor to dress, nor to urine, and nor to shit/defecation.” (إزالة الأوهام، ص 356)

“وإن جسمه الآن من نوع خاص بحيث لم يعد بحاجة إلى الطعام ولا إلى اللباس ولا إلى البول والتبرُّز”. (إزالة الأوهام، ص 356)

MGA says

“Elahi Bakhsh filled his book the rod of Moses with false accusations, obscenities, and with uncleanness which is contrary to reality, it’s like a channel of water filled with mud, or a toilet filled with shit”. (إعلان في 15/12/1900،الإعلانات، ج2)

لقد ملأ المنشي إلهي بخش كتابه عصا موسى بالتهم الباطلة والبهتانات وبنجاسة ما يخالف الواقع كما تمتلئ قناة ماء آسن بالوحل أو كما يمتلئ المرحاض بالبراز (إعلان في 15/12/1900، الإعلانات، ج2)

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Arabic dictionaries on “Khatam-un-Nabiyeen” as used in 33:40

Dear readers, Ahmadi’s are engaged in “competitive-speech” and thus aren’t willing to listen to anything we ever say to them, they don’t even feel that they should have to go back and consider the sources when speaking.  They are playing politics in this world of “freedom of speech”.  They are similar to how Republicans deny climate change, and used to deny how cigarettes cause cancer.  In terms of mutawafeeka, they made grammatical arguments and etc, however, when it comes to Khatim/Khatim, they forget about that entire line of argumentation and it collapses when using the same method for other quranic-arabic type of words.  In the below, we have screen-shotted “Lisan-al-Arab” (published in 1873) and “Taj al-Arus of Al-Zabadi” (published under the Ottoman Empire, in the late 1700’s), these are both considered the top-2 arabic grammar dictionaries.   Furthermore, the Lahori-Ahmadi’s, and specifically Muhammad Ali made these exact same arguments vs. the Qadianis back in the 1915-1925 era (see page 16-17).

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Maulvi Sher Ali told the world that Mirza Ghulam Ahmad would send his Arabic writings to Noorudin and Ahsan Amrohi for editing

MGA hired many people to help him.  Noorudin was the most famous, as was Maulvi Syed Muhammad Ahsan Amrohi.

Summary, Seertul Mahdi Quotation number 104 Book By By Mirza basheer M.A .
Molvi sher Ali sahb says that Mirza Qadyani calls his arabic writings sort of revelation but Mirza use to get his Arabic revelation checked and corrected from First khalifa ( Hakeem Nooruddin) and Molvi Mohammad Ahsan and get them rectified. After Rectification they use to return it back.

Seertul Mahdi Quotation number 104 Book By By Mirza basheer M.A .


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Arabic is not the mother of all languages–contrary to MGA and his team’s assertions

Along with homeopathy, a much lesser-known but just as embarrassing, pseudo-scientific (pseudo-scientific being a polite way of saying ‘complete and utter bullshit’) aspect of Ahmadi theology is the claim by Mirza Ghulam Ahmad that Arabic is the mother of all languages. He made this claim in his book Minan-ur-Rahman, and you can find a summaryof these claims on the jamaat’s official website.  Hani Tahir has exposed this entire issue herein:

The claims are:

  • all languages come from Arabic
  • Arabic essentially contains the building blocks of human language, and is unique well-designed to do so
  • Arabic has unique characteristics that other languages don’t, and other languages are languages insofar as they resemble Arabic

I’m not going to bother addressing this claim because it’s so ridiculous and so at odds with modern scholarship, if not contemporary scholarship, that it doesn’t actually need refutation. I’ll just summarize it by saying that the jamaat has spent a lot of time and effort in connecting different languages to Arabic, which is to say that it spent a lot of time finding false cognates (words that sound the same in two languages, but actually have no connection) in multiple languages and otherwise jamming a lot of pieces of a puzzle together to make them fit, though the image that results isn’t really an image at all.

I would like to focus on the role this played in me leaving Ahmadiyyat, the way the jamaat deals with this claim and the way it exposes Ahmadiyyat as a fundamentally nineteenth-century ideology operating in the twenty-first century on the basis of inertia.

My professional and academic background leads me to have proficiency in a couple of foreign languages not spoken commonly in the Muslim world and not commonly spoken by Ahmadis. Based on this, I’ve had an interest in languages for a long time, and I was in my early 20s when I first heard of this claim from someone in my AMSA as another AMSA had organized an event on this topic (or was about to).

The idea genuinely seemed intriguing, though I was very skeptical, and this was around the time that I thought that the jamaat had brilliant ideas and general intellectual purchase around its often outlandish claims. I got into a debate with a few people and read a few discussions of this online and in print from jamaat sources, and the result was, as was the case with the jamaat’s opposition to gay marriage, that it was unsubstantiated and nowhere near as intellectual as I had hoped. In fact, the process smacked of pseudoscience, not unlike defenses of homeopathy or the convoluted way in which Mirza Ghulam Ahmad is both a prophet but not really a prophet, or seal of the prophets actually is a prophecy about elite military units. This isn’t something that people discuss often, but it stuck in my mind because, like homeopathy, it was one of those things where the jamaat is clearly, falsifiably wrong about a real-world matter.

The jamaat likes promoting this claim because it gets attention, which I think they like, along with claims about Jesus being in India (technically possible, but why not Jesus in upstate New York?). If you get into it, depending on the person you talk to, you’ll find that they just double down on their claims and tell you that the problem is with you, not Mirza Ghulam Ahmad, or they’ll define their way out of the problem, claiming that the Arabic that was the mother of all languages isn’t at all like the Arabic that’s spoken now. This, of course, is like saying that the sky is blue at night and then defining blue to be the colour of sadness, and then saying that what could be sadder than black, since it’s what we wear at funerals, so the sky is in fact blue at night.

If you read the original book, and I don’t recommend it because it’s so poorly written and formatted, you’ll find that the idea was not just to answer the question about a proto-human language, but to set out and prove the superiority of Islam by proving the superiority of the language in which its holy book is written. This type of adversarial world view is endemic to Ahmadiyya as an exercise in repairing egos wounded by the spread of aggressive, racialist ideologies and colonialism in the nineteenth century. Ahmadiyyat has a lot in common with messianic religious movements that emerged around this time, of which the Mormons, Adventists, Bahai and Jehovahs Witnesses are the most similar for time, beliefs, size and organization, as well as number of quirky beliefs.

The adversarial view, where each country and people have a religion, and each of them are out to compete for numbers, betrays itself in the way Ahmadis organize large events and also interfaith events. This may be changing in the last decade, but Ahmadi jalsas are essentially a continuation of the large conferences new religious movements would hold in India and elsewhere, when people genuinely enjoyed debating religion and would spend hours listening to someone pontificate.

You see it in interfaith events that are explicitly designed to prove the superiority of Islam, like an intersports seminar organized around “Should all sports be played with black and white spherical objects?” or a nutrition seminar on the topic of “why is kale the best superfood?”. At these events, each team has the right to present and, because Ahmadis want to read from the Quran and sing a nazam, every other team also has to do the equivalent, regardless of whether or not they do this at their events.

The idea of deciding what exactly it is that you’re going to prove in the face of overwhelming evidence to the contrary is both sad and dangerous. Ahmadis can fudge, in the presence of outsiders and aggressive questioning, but never internally to mainstream members, on where they stand with homeopathy, but it’s hard to fudge with something so ridiculous and so easily falsifiable as the idea of every language somehow coming from Arabic. This is something that I couldn’t get out of my mind and if you’re a thoughtful Ahmadi, you need to ask yourself why you so revere someone who was so arrogant about his divinity and yet so wrong.

Mirza Ghulam Ahmad terrible Arabic pronunciation and Syed Abdul Latif

As we all know, MGA’s arabic was terrible His arabic was sooo bad that he never led any Salaat in his whole life.  The Ahmadi’s that surrounded him lied about this forever, and are sooooo stubborn, they would rather die then admit to the obvious.  MGA also stuttered terribly, this combined with his terrible pronunciation of Arabic meant that Maulvi Abdul Karim Sialkoti, Noorudin, and Ahsan Amrohi led the salaat at Qadian.  Nonetheless, we have found a new reference which also confirms this data.  It is from Bashir Ahmad Rafiq’s book, “The Afghan Martyrs” (1995), see pages 49-50.  An account by Hadhrat Hakeem Deen Mohammad, in this account, an Arab comes to Qadian, in 1902, while the first martyr of Ahmadiyya (Syed Abdul Latif) is also there and he is amazed that MGA can barely recite arabic properly.  MGA then says that Allah has gifted him with the writing of Arabic, not the reading of it.  However, Syed Abdul Latif was about to physically assault this arab.  So much for being peaceful in Ahmadiyya.

The quote
“””After Maghrib I saw the young man in Masjid Mubarak and I pointed the Promised Messiah (PBUH) out to him. After salutation and shaking hands he sat opposite the Promised Messiah (PBUH). At that time Hadhrat Sahibzada Abdul Latif was already seated immediately opposite the Promised Messiah (PBUH). After introducing himself, in a somewhat brusque manner the young Arab addressed the Promised Messiah (PB UH), and said, “You claim that you are eloquent in Arabic but you are I unable to pronounce the letters ‘ain’ and ‘qaaf like the Arabs .And you falter in your speech. These impediments detract from your eloquence. Witnessing the gross arrogance and the harsh manner of his address Sahibzada Abdul Lateef lost his cool and in this disposition was about to strike the Arab with his fist when the Promised Messiah (PBUH) caught hold of his hand, put it on his thigh, and put his own hand over it. Then the Promised Messiah (PBUH) said to the Arab, My claim concerning eloquence in the Arabic language relates to written Arabic and I do not claim that I can speak like those whose mother tongue is Arabic. I would therefore suggest that you look through some of my Arabic books which you will find in the guest house. Only then will you be able to assess my proficiency in Arabic. Then he said, “Many earlier sages had foretold that Imam Mahdi would stammer somewhat. Therefore a trace of stammering in my speech is proof of my truth. It Then the Arab guest said, “The companions who sit with you and are influenced by you do not seem to comprehend the measure of respect due to a guest. Had you not caught hold of his clenched fist this gentleman would surely have hit me.” In reply the Promised Messiah (PBUH) said, “Like you this gentleman is also a recent arrival and he belongs to a region i.e. Afghanistan, where the inhabitants are known for getting excited rather quickly. Surely his sentiments sprang directly from his love for me.” At that point of time Hadhrat Moulvi Noor-ud-Deen who was sitting at a distance said, ” Hadhrat Abu Bakar (MAPH) once slapped someone who was rude and irreverent in the presence of the Holy Prophet (PBUH).” With a smile on his lips the Promised Messiah (PBUH) said that here was a discernible resemblance. ” 

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The non-Pakistani-Ahmadi-clerics were barely taught any Arabic by Ahmadiyya INC

We have written about this before.  Most Ahmadi clerics don’t understand Islam properly, they are brainwashed by an unaccredited institution, i.e. Jamia-Ahmadia.  Jamia Ahmadia passes whomever they wish, and they fail whomever they wish.  In a recent case, they gave full “imam” status to Ibrahim Noonan, who was a convert to Ahmadiyya about 20 years ago through a woman whom he eventually married and later divorced.  He hasn’t properly understood Islam and has terrible manners, he is basically a security guard who couldn’t find a job and turned to Ahmadiyya for employment.  Mirza Tahir Ahmad hired him immediately, since, Ahmadiyya INC needed an Irish Imam, since Bashir Ahmad Orchard had died in the 1980’s.  Ahmadiyya INC always looks to find a local in any country and promote him to Imam, this gives Ahmadiyya INC a local with whom they can better negotiate with local politicians.

The quote
“””Many of the foreign students did not finish the entire curriculum, but they were dispatched as foreign missionaries to their respective homelands. The Second Khalifah ra acknowledged
this in my case and stated that, at my age, I would require more than 8 years to master the Arabic language, let alone the 8 years to complete the standard Jami‘ah missionary program.

The process at that time was that once a student was ready for their missionary work, they were determined to be either domestic or foreign missionaries. Domestic missionaries reported to the Sadr Anjuman and foreign missionaries reported to the Wakil-e-Tabshir of the Tehrik-e-Jadid Office. I was the latter and my salary of 50 rupees per month was paid out of the Tehrik-e-Jadid Office.  In fact, none of the foreign missionaries during my enrollment in Jami‘ah completed the full Jami‘ah program, including Kunze, who was a German already enrolled, but left at the same time I did.

There are several examples of outstanding missionaries who similarly did not complete the formal Jami‘ah course such as Bashir Orchard of Glasgow.””””

See, Perseverance, See page 159.

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Mirza Ghulam Ahmad spoke terrible Arabic

We have proved that MGA barely knew Arabic, and when did utter a few words, he had a terrible punjabee accent that he couldn’t rectify whilst reciting arabic.  In this specific entry, it is proven that MGA couldn’t pronounce arabic properly, see these essays also:

Mujahid ibn Jabr (Arabic: مُجَاهِدْ بِنْ جَبْر‎‎) (645-722 CE) Tafsir on 4:157 to 4:159

This is the second part of my series on the “substitution-theory”, which comes directly from Todd Lawson’s book on the topic.  Feel free to read the first entry here:

Who is Mujahid B. Jabr Al-Makki ??

He was of the major commentators of Qur’an among the Tâbi’în and of the highest rank in reliability among hadith narrators (thiqa). It is related by Ibn Sa’d in the Tabaqat (6:9) and elsewhere that he went over the explanation of the Holy Qur’an together with Ibn ‘Abbas thirty times. Al-A’mash said: “Mujahid was like someone who carried a treasure: whenever he spoke, pearls came out of his mouth.”
After praising him in similar terms al-Dhahabi said: “Mujahid has certain strange sayings pertaining to knowledge and commentary of Qur’an which are rejeted and condemned. A report has reached us whereby he went to Babel and asked its governor to show him [the angels] Harut and Marut. Mujahid said: ‘The governor sent a Jew to go with me until we arrived at a grotto under the earth and he showed them to me. They were suspended upside down. I said: “I believe in the One Who created the two of you.” At that time they shuddered, and both I and the Jew fainted. We came to after a while, and the Jew said to me: You nearly caused our death!” Al-Dhahabi also quotes al-A’mash’s judgment of Mujahid’s Tafsir whereby Mujahid was among those who narrate from the books of Ahl al-Kitab. Al-Dhahabi then proceeds to mention Mujahid’s commentary on the verse of the Exalted Station as one of the most objectionable statements he made: “The saying of Allah: {It may be that your Lord will raise you to an Exalted Station} (17:79) means: He will seat the Prophet with Him on His Throne (yujlisuhu ma’ahu ‘alâ ‘arshihi).”

Among Mujahid’s famous sayings: “There is no creature of Allah Most High except you can take or leave what they said except the Prophet Allah bless and greet him.” Narrated from Mujahid and also from al-Hakam ibn ‘Utayba by Ibn Hazm in al-Ihkam fi Usul al-Ahkam (6:291, 6:293) and Ibn ‘Abd al-Barr in al-Jami’ fi Bayan al-‘Ilm (2:925-926 #1761-1765).

Of Abu Ayyub al-Ansari, Mujahid relates: “People would uncover the space above his grave and it would rain.”

Sources: Abu Nu’aym, Hilya al-Awliya’ (3:280); al-Dhahabi, Mizan (3:439 #7072) and Siyar (5:379-381 #542); Ibn al-Jawzi, Sifa al-Safwa (1:243).

Mujahid B. Jabr Al-Makki on 4:157–158
As translated and quoted by Lawson, see page 48-49.

157—-“”but so it was made to appear to them they crucified a man other then Jesus while they reckoned that he was Jesus because this other man ‘was made to look like {Jesus} to them’ (shubbiha lahum).””””

158—-“They crucified a man whom they saw as {shabbaha} Jesus, and God raised Jesus to himself, living”

Al-Tabari quoted Al-Makki heavily in his Tafsir
The authenticity of this Tafsir by Al-Makki is quickly ascertained by noticing the frequency of the quotations in Al-Tabari’s works.  Further, Al-Makki was Meccan and came from that school of thought, and they consider Ibn Abbas to be their master in Tafsir.

Hani Tahir exposes Ahmadiyya again, “The Arabic of MGA”

Ahmadiyya leadership has lied endlessly about Mirza Ghulam Ahmad and his life.  We all know that MGA was a bon-vivant and he knew Arabic, since he grew up with a teacher who taught him as such.  Nonetheless, when MGA secretly added Noorudin and company to his team in 1890-1891, they began to boast the MGA had learned 40,000 roots of the Arabic language overnight.  That was a total lie.  They were trying to make it look like MGA had some type of deep connection with Allah, however, we all know better, MGA was high on opium, he never led prayers, never gave a Friday Khutbah, and never gave a public speech.  One more thing, he was fond of massages, this guy had no reason to get any type of massage, he didn’t play sports, he wasn’t walking 5-10 miles per day after 1880, and he never worked “manual-labor” a day in his life.

Hani Tahir
Hani Tahir was fooled to believe in Ahmadiyya once upon a time, however, after studying Ahmadiyya, the truth was evident.  In fact, Ahmadis who read about Ahmadiyya and still remain in Ahmadiyya are simply people who have flawed character and aren’t willing to admit to their mistakes, this type of behavior is anti-Quran.  The Quran teaches a man to be honest, and to admit to all mistakes.

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