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Ahmadiyya leadership admitted (in the 1930’s) that MGA used lots of editors and ghost writers

Intro
Mirza Ghulam Ahmad and Maulvi Noorudin created Ahmadiyya as their collective brainchild.  MGA would have the dreams and make the wild claims and Noorudin would defend MGA and build a team of writers, imams and language scholars.  MGA knew Noorudin from the 1870’s, they both had correspondance with Sir Syed in this era also, they were both also members of the famous Ahl-e-Hadith sect of Northern India, this sect never numbered more than 100,000 in British India in the late 1890’s, thus, almost everyone knew each other.  Here are some names of the main ghost writing team, Maulvi Abdul Karim, Maulvi Mufti Muhammad Sadiq, Maulvi Sher Ali and Hakim Fazl Din of Bhera.  Some other people who came independently, yet still joined MGA’s team was Maulvi Muhammad Ahsan Amrohi, who was also a member of the Ahl-e-Hadith sect, in fact, uptil his job with MGA, he worked for the founder of the Ahl-e-Hadith sect, Syed Nazeer Husain from Delhi and Siddiq Hasan Khan of Bhopal.  Maulvi Muhammad Ali was another, however, he came via Khwaja Kamaluddin and the prominent Ahmadi’s of Lahore.

Maulvi Abdul Kareem, Maulvi Ahsan Amrohi and Maulvi Noorudin were the imams at Qadian
MGA never led any prayers in any mosque in his whole life.  He needed some imams to do this job for him.  They led the prayers at Masjid Mubarak and Masjid Aqsa on Friday’s for Juma or for Eid.  Their imamate was mostly via the Masjid Mubarak, Maulvi Abdul Kareem was the main imam.

They all lived together
MGA and his whole family, Noorudin and his whole family, Maulvi Ahsan Amrohi and his whole family.  Later on, roughly 1899-1903, Mufti Muhammad Sadiq and his whole family moved in, Maulvi Muhammad Ali and his whole family also moved in.  We estimate that 50-60 people lived with MGA in his mansion at Qadian by 1907.

MGA had a broken right arm from his youth
MGA could not be a serious writer, his arm just didn’t have the strength required to write all day, he thus had his team write and advise him accordingly, he would have his scribes send all writings to Noorudin, Amrohi and Abdul Karim for final approval.  In fact, MGA needed toilet attendants to help him relieve himself.

MGA spoke with a huge stutter and thus couldn’t be an Imam
The main issue was that MGA spoke with a terrible stutter his entire life.  Thus, he could never give a proper speech, give adhan, or lead prayers.

MGA was high on opium and indulged in massages
Ahmadiyya literature is filled with data which proves that MGA was taking opium everyday just to alleviate his pain from his many ailments.  Thus, MGA could not be a writer and come up with these claims, Noorudin managed all of this for MGA.  MGA got massages from men and women, and sometimes all night.

Amrohi didn’t want MGA to claim prophethood
MGA’s son tells us that there was a huge argument on this topic in 1900.  Ahsan Amrohi had no idea that MGA was about to claim prophethood and was shocked, whereas, Maulvi Abdul Kareem knew the inside story.  After initially following the Qadiani-Ahmadi’s and supporting the prophethood of MGA, Amrohi recanted and seems to have joined the Lahori-Ahmadi’s, he was dead by 1919 nevertheless.

Noorudin wrote BA5 after MGA died and published it
After MGA died, many old books were being published, “Jesus in India” was published, BA5 was published and many others.  The intro to BA5 is a dead give off that someone is an editor here, it mentions the famous 50=5 argument, Noorudin was obviously the editor.

Some quotes

“His holiness, the Promised Messiah, wrote his book of Tabligh, which is included in his book Aina-e-Kalamat-e-Islam in Arabic. During the course of its writing, he used to send the manuscript to the philosopher of the community, Nuruddin, for proof reading. After this, he used to send it to ustad Abdul Karim so that he may translate it in Persian.”  (Al-Fadl, January 15, 1929). 
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“His holiness (Mirza) used to send manuscripts of his Arabic books to his first Caliph (Nuruddin) and also to Ustad Mohammad Ahsan. The first caliph used to return the manuscripts after reading them, mostly as he took them. As for Ustad Muhammad Ahsan, he exerted his utmost effort and at some places used to change words for correction.” (Seerat-ul-Mahdi, Vol. 1, P. 91).

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Mirza Ghulam Ahmad even asked others to submit articles to be included in his book. Here is a letter Mirza composed to Chiragh Ali:

“I have been much pleased to receive your letter. From the very beginning, it has been my desire to serve Islam. Your book has encouraged me tremendously… If you have any articles, send them over to me… Your article about confirmation of prophethood has not reached me so far, although I have waited for it long. Therefore, I bother you once again to send me your article without delay. I would like you to write another article for me about affirmation of the reality of Quran, so that I may be able to include it in my book Baraheen-e-Ahmadiyyah.”
(Seyar-ul-Musannifin, Letter to Chiragh Ali;)(As reported in Qadiyaniat-An Analytical Survey).  

The scans
 

 

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MGA’s ghost writers argue on the prophethood of MGA in 1900

Intro

I wanted to post a reference from the writings of Mahmud Ahmad in 1915 as he argued that MGA was in fact a prophet, however, without law.

The reference

“At last that event did take place. In the year 1900, Maulavi ‘Abdul Karim, the preacher of the Friday sermon, gave a sermon in which he, used the words Nabi (Prophet) and Rasul (Messenger) for the Mirza. This caused great irritation to Maulavi Sayyid Muhammad Ahsan Amrohawi. When Maulavi ‘Abdul Karim came to know of this, he gave another Friday sermon in which be addressed the Mirza, requesting him to contradict his belief, if he was wrong in considering him to be a prophet and Messenger of God. After the Friday prayers were over, Maulavi ‘Abdul Karim caught hold of the skirt of the Mirza’s apparel and requested him to correct him in his beliefs if they were erroneous. The Mirza turned around and said that he, too, held the same belief. Meanwhile, Maulavi Muhammad Ahsan had been greatly agitated by the sermon and in anger was pacing the floor of the mosque. On Maulavi ‘Abdul Karim’s return, he began to quarrel with him. When their voices rose very high, the Mirza came out of his house and recited the Qur’anic verse: “O ye who believe! Don’t raise your Voice above the voice of the Prophet.”

(This event is based on the report of a speech of Sayyid Sarwar Shah Qadiani at an annual conference held in Qadian, and published in al- Fadhl, Vol. X, No. 51, dated january.4,1923)

(See also Haqiqat al- Nubuwat, p 124.[published in 1915])

Conclusion
MGA had multiple ghost-writers.  In this case, Maulvi Amrohi (who was the first payed Ahmadi-mullah), he didn’t know that MGA had finally claimed prophethood and Maulvi Abdul Kareem was ordered to pronounce it.  They proceeded to argue, then MGA quoted the Quran and thus claimed prophethood openly for the first time (summer 1900). However, he remained silent for an additional 1 1/2 years or roughly 14+ months.

Later on, after “Correction of an Error” was published, Maulvi Amrohi wrote a rebuttal to an inquiring mind who accused MGA of claiming prophethood, however, Maulvi Amrohi very tactfully only denied independent prophethood, he never even mentioned the “The Ummati-Nabi”.  Fast forward to 1914, Maulvi Amrohi nominated Mahmud Ahmad as Khalifa and sided with him in his first year of his Khilafat.  He even read Mahmud Ahmad’s 2 books on the subject of prophethood, i.e. Qaul al Fasl and Haqiqatun Nubuwwat, however, in the summer of 1915, he seems to have had a change of heart and denounced MGA’s claim of prophethood and deposed Mahmud Ahmad as Khalifa.  He then sided with the Lahori-Ahmadis and died in 1919 in this state.

 

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Was Noorudin the Ghost-writer of MGA?

This is a quick essay and referencing post that I wanted to create.  Here is the reference:

“””Many people used to say that his holiness, the Promised Messiah, did not know even Urdu and someone else wrote the books which were attributed to him. The others held even a worse opinion about his writing potentialities. They believed that Shaikh Nuruddin was the person who wrote the books for him.” (Al-Fadl, February 5, 1929; by Mirza Mahmood Ahmad Qadiani)””””

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Mirza Ghulam Ahmad and 4:159 (4:160 in the Ahmadiyya Quran’s), before the death of Jesus (as)

Intro
Mirza Ghulam Ahmad stole many arguments from Sir Syed about the death of Jesus.  Sir Syed seems to have been the first Muslim ever in history to change the translation of 4:159 in 1880 in his famous Tafsir.  Sir Syed totally changed the translation of this verse, since he was looking to disprove that idea that Esa (as) hadn’t died yet.  Sir Syed knew that 4:159 proved that Esa (as) hadn’t died yet, thus, he purposely mistranslated it to sound preposterous.  MGA followed his lead, and in 1890, in Izala Auham, MGA used the exact same translation that Sir Syed used.  In 1902, (See Ijaz-i-Ahmadi) it came to MGA’s attention that Abu Hurairah has supported the idea that Esa (as) hadn’t died yet, via Tafsir Thana’i.  MGA thus, discredited the scholarship of Abu Hurairah and called him stupid (GHABI in Arabic) or lacking understanding.  MGA then commented on 4:159 in 1906/1907 via Haqiqatul Wahy, wherein he presented the same belief as Sir Syed again.  He also called Abu Hurairah as stupid again.

1880, Sir Syed on 4:159

(Tafsir Ahmadi by Sir Syed Ahmad Khan, vol. ii, p.48)

ii. Referring to the expression ‘in this’ (Arabic: bi-hi) in the verse: ‘And there is none of the People of the Book but will believe in this before his death’ (4:159), which is generally taken to mean in him (i.e. in Jesus) Sir Syed writes:

“This points to the words ‘And their saying: we have killed the Messiah’ [4:157], and to their saying, and not to the Messiah. So this means: ‘All the People of the Book, before their death, will believe that Jesus was killed’. After this it is said: ‘And on the day of Judgment he, i.e. Jesus, will be a witness against them’. The word ‘ala [‘against’] is used to indicate loss or harm. So the meaning is that on the day of Judgment Jesus will be a witness against their belief.”

MGA on 4:159 from 1870 to 1890
MGA published lots of data in this era, specifically, BA 1–4 were published in this era.  MGA never even commented on 4:159.

MGA on 4:159 in 1890 in Izala Auham
The Lahori-Ahmadi have translated portions of Izala Auham, specifically, wherein MGA claims that there were 30 verses of the Quran that prove that Esa (As) had died.  Per MGA and his team of writers, one of those verses is 4:159.  They wrote:

“And there is none among the People of the Book but will believe in it (the crucifixion of Jesus) before his death; and on the Day of Resurrection, he (Jesus) shall be a witness among them.”

1891, MGA’s debate with Maulvi Muhammad Bashir in Delhi
4:159 seems to have been brought up in one of MGA’s first debate as a Messiah (See Life of Ahmad).

MGA on 4:159 in 1906/1907 via Haqiqatul Wahy (in the online english edition)
MGA calls Abu Hurairah as wrong and possessing weak intellect on pages 44-45 of Haqiqatul Wahy, since Abu Hurarya claimed that Esa (as) would physically return based on 4:159.  MGA wrote disparaging comments about Abu Hurairah in BA vol. 5 and Ijaz i Ahmadi.

On page 700 of Haqiqatul Wahy, MGA says about 4:159: 
“””Meaning that, there is no one out of the People of the Book who, before his death, fails to believe in the Holy Prophet sa or Hadrat ‘Isa [Jesus]. It is recorded in the books of exegesis that the People of the Book receive this revelation when they are going through the agonies of death or are at death’s door. Evidently, they happen to believe only when God reveals to them that a particular Prophet is true. But this revelation does not make them the Elect of God. However, this indeed is the divine practice that when death is imminent, most people tend to see a dream or receive a revelation. It is not exclusive to any particular religion nor is there the requirement that one be righteous and a doer of good.””””

Historically, Al-Tabari tells us
It is narrated from Sa’id bin Jubair from Ibn Abbas [about]; “No one will remain from among the People of the Book but will certainly believe in him before he dies.” He said; “Before the death of Eisa ibn Maryam.” (Tafsir Al-Tabari 9/380 Narration 10794-5 under Qur’an 4:159. Classified as Sahih by Hafiz Ibn Hajr in Fath Al-Bari 10/250, Kitab Ahadith Al-Anbiya, Chapter on the Descent of Eisa ibn Maryam).

Pickthall on 4:159
“””There is not one of the People of the Scripture but will believe in him before his death, and on the Day of Resurrection he will be a witness against them “””

Muhammad Ibn Al-Hanafiyyah (15 – 81 AH)
Muhammad ibn ‘Ali Abi Talib (also known as Ibn Hanafiyya, the son of Hazrat Ali (RA)), explained Qur’an 4:159 in these terms: “He will descend before the Day of Judgment. All Jews and Christians will believe in him.” (Al-Suyuti, Durr al-Manthur, 2 :241.)

Abd Allah Ibn Abbas (618 CE – 687 CE)
About the verse Qur’an 4:159: “This verse is proof that Jesus (AS), son of Mary, will appear… All of the People of the Book will believe in him before his death.” (Al-Hakim, Al-Mustadrak, 2:309.) He also said referring to the Holy Qur’an 43:61, “God indicates that Jesus (AS) will appear before the Day of Judgment.” (Khasmiri, al-Tasrih, 289-90).

Ibn Abbas (RA) said, “When Allah intended to raise Jesus (AS) to the heavens, he went to his companions… and Jesus (AS) ascended to the heavens through an opening in the top of the house”. (Ibn Abi Hatim 4/431 Hadith 6266, Ibn Kathir 2/449. Ibn Kathir called it Sahih).

Al-Hasan Al-Basri (642 CE – 729/110 CE/AH)
“I swear to God that Jesus (AS) is at this moment alive in God’s presence, and that everyone will believe in him when he returns.” With regard to the Holy Qur’an 4:159, he said: “God raised Jesus (AS) to His presence. He will send him before the Day of Judgment as a holder of rank. Good and bad, all will believe in him.” (Al-Suyuti, Durr al-Manthur, 2:284) He also made a similar comment regarding the Holy Qur’an 43:61, saying that the meaning of the verse was that Jesus (AS) would return to earth. (Al-Suyuti, Durr al-Manthur, 2:220).

Some Additional Commentary that I found from here–https://www.meetup.com/islam-215/messages/boards/thread/3174688/30

Yusuf Ali’s english translation is as follows:

“””And there is none of the People of the Book but must believe in him before his death; and on the Day of Judgment he will be a witness against them”””

Yusuf Ali gives this interpretation in his commentary note 665:

Before his death: Interpreters are not agreed as to the exact meaning. Those who hold that Jesus did not die refer the pronoun “his” to Jesus. They say that Jesus is still living in the body and that he will appear just before the Final Day, after the coming of the Mahdi, when the world will be purified of sin and unbelief. There will be a final death before the final Resurrection, but all will have believed before that final death. Others think that “his” is better referred to “none of the People of the Book”, and that the emphatic form “must believe” (la-yu` minanna) denotes more a question of duty than of fact.

Note 664 on Surah 4:158 is maybe a helpful background to the above note, since in 665 he only talks on the basis of what he just stated is the generally accepted Muslim view:

There is difference of opinion as to the exact interpretation of this verse. The words are: The Jews did not kill Jesus, but Allah raised him up (rafa`u) to Himself. One school holds that Jesus did not die the usual human death, but still lives in the body in heaven, which is the generally accepted Muslim view.

In a mailing list discussion, one Muslim claimed this clearly states that all People of the Book will believe in Jesus before his (future) death. This seems to be grammatically possible. Several translators seem to follow this understanding and their translations say something to the effect that “everyone from the People of the Book will (certainly) believe in him …”. However, why would Jesus be a “witness against them” when they believe in him? Should he not be a witness against those who do NOT believe in him?

Rashad Khalifa is the odd one out who transfers this into the past tense (was required to believe), while all others see this either present or future. Khalifa circumvents the problem by inserting the word “required” which is not in the Arabic.

The main question so far seems to be whether the emphatic form means “certainty of fact in the future” (will believe) or “duty for everyone” (required, must believe). But there are more opinions on the meaning of this verse…

In response to Yusuf Ali’s translation of this verse, an Ahmadiyya gave me the following explanation regarding their interpretation of this verse:

Everybody will believe in whom? The verse you quoted does not give a name anyway. Why not? And whose death is being referred to? I mean, many *People of the Book* die everyday without believing in Jesus a.s. anyway. i.e. the Jews, whilst the Christians already believe in him as the Messiah anyway. And if you mean to say that they will all believe in him as a Prophet of God after his hypothetical return to earth and subsequent death, then there would be no need for Jesus a.s. to be a witness against them on the Day of Judgement anyway. So, your proposed construction of the verse becomes untenable.

Besides the Arabic pronoun used does not here mean *him* but *it*, because the incident being referred to in the preceeding verse is to Jesus’s a.s. alleged death on the cross, so the correct translation (with my explanation in brackets) will be:

“And there is none among the People of the Book but will (continue to) believe in IT (i.e. the death of Jesus a.s. on the cross) before his (own) death (i.e. the death of the Jew or Christian himself); and on the Day of Judgement he (Jesus a.s.) will be a witness against them … [4:159].

This Ahmadiyya interpretation gets rid of some problems but substitutes it for others.

The way this is now translated and interpreted by the Ahmadiyya, it says that ALL the people of the Book, Jews and Christians, will continue to believe the death of Jesus on the Cross. But Muslims tell us that there have been thousands (or even millions) of Jews and Christians who converted to Islam, and consequently they do no longer believe in this death on the Cross. Does that not mean the Qur’an is wrong, according to the interpretation given above? Isn’t the Ahmadiyya translation only removing one problem by substituting it with another interpretation, equally wrong on the factual level?

Is there any interpretation of this verse that is consistent with the rest of Islamic theology (whether the Sunni or the Ahmadiyya version) and the facts of life that some Christians and Christians do convert to orthodox Islam, some to Ahmadiyya Islam and believe exactly as these movments tell, and most of them continue to believe in the revelation given by God in the Bible?

Whatever this verse means, the facts will contradict any theory which understands it in a way such that all of them will continue not to believe, or all of them will believe. This is certainly a challenge to the “none … but” construction in the aya which makes a statement that supposedly holds without exception.

At the following link you will find a number of further articles examining the Qur’anic passage and Muslim traditions on the Crucifixion which we would like to recommend reading as well. Based on the above and those further articles…

Conclusion: The one and only passage in the Qur’an dealing with the issue of the Crucifixion is extremely vague and riddled with problems of its own. How then can it be the bases for rejection of the very clear meaning of the passion narratives in the Gospels?

However, the above are not yet all the different versions of Sura 4:159.

 

Links and Related Essays
https://ahmadiyyafactcheckblog.com/2018/01/02/mirza-ghulam-ahmads-disparaging-comments-on-abu-hurairah/

http://www.islam101.com/quran/yusufAli/

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https://www.alislam.org/library/books/Haqiqatul-Wahi.pdf

https://www.answering-islam.org/Quran/Tafsir/004.159

https://www.muslim.org/islam/deathj-6.htm

https://ahmadiyyafactcheckblog.com/2016/10/27/sir-syeds-view-on-esa-as/

https://ahmadiyyafactcheckblog.com/2017/06/17/nooruddin-urged-mirza-ghulam-ahmad-to-make-the-claim-of-being-like-the-messiah-1882-1884-era/

https://ahmadiyyafactcheckblog.com/2018/02/09/during-the-writing-of-braheen-e-ahmadiyya-mga-masked-his-beliefs-he-was-already-asserting-that-esa-as-died/

https://ahmadiyyafactcheckblog.com/2016/11/12/dard-lied-about-mgas-views-on-esa-as-pre-1891/

https://ahmadiyyafactcheckblog.com/2016/11/14/what-is-maseel-e-maseeh-the-like-of-the-messiah/

https://ahmadiyyafactcheckblog.com/2016/09/30/mga-explains-how-he-misunderstood-his-prophethood-in-1880-and-realized-it-later-on/

https://ahmadiyyafactcheckblog.com/2016/11/12/dard-lied-about-mgas-views-on-esa-as-pre-1891/

https://ahmadiyyafactcheckblog.com/2016/10/24/noorudin-and-abdul-karim-were-influenced-by-sir-syed/

https://ahmadiyyafactcheckblog.com/2016/11/12/dard-lied-about-mgas-views-on-esa-as-pre-1891/

https://ahmadiyyafactcheckblog.com/2017/09/11/sir-syed-was-the-first-muslim-in-india-to-ever-say-that-all-hadith-on-the-mahdi-were-weak-mga-copied/

https://ahmadiyyafactcheckblog.com/2017/09/11/sir-syed-was-the-first-muslim-in-india-to-ever-say-that-all-hadith-on-the-mahdi-were-weak-mga-copied/

https://www.alislam.org/library/book/heavenly-sign/

https://ahmadiyyafactcheckblog.com/2017/06/17/nooruddin-urged-mirza-ghulam-ahmad-to-make-the-claim-of-being-like-the-messiah-1882-1884-era/

https://ahmadiyyafactcheckblog.com/2016/09/06/was-noorudin-the-ghost-writer-of-mga/

https://ahmadiyyafactcheckblog.com/2018/02/09/during-the-writing-of-braheen-e-ahmadiyya-mga-masked-his-beliefs-he-was-already-asserting-that-esa-as-died/

https://ahmadiyyafactcheckblog.com/2017/12/26/did-mirza-ghulam-ahmad-claim-to-be-the-messiah-in-1889/

https://ahmadiyyafactcheckblog.com/2017/07/17/ahmadiyya-leadership-lied-about-the-first-bait-ceremony-in-1889/

http://www.aaiil.org/text/books/mga/deathprophetjesus30versesholyquran/deathprophetjesus30versesholyquran.shtml

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“Jihad and the British Government” the original edition by Mirza Ghulam Ahmad (1900) in English

Intro
We have found the original edition of “Jihad and The British Government” by Mirza Ghulam Ahmad (1900), which was edited and translated into english by Maulvi Muhammad Ali, who would eventually become a Lahori-Ahmadi.  The Qadiani’s might have never published this since it was translated by Muhammad Ali, instead, they published a new translation in 2006.  The Lahori-Ahmadi’s published their english edition in 2011.  As we all know, MGA really was trying to abrogate Jihad altogether, he was also planning on claiming to be a law-bearing prophet.  However, he died suddenly in May of 1908 and all of those plans were stopped.  Nevertheless, an Ahmadi, Zahir ud Din, claimed in 1911—1913 era that MGA was a law-bearing prophet.  Noorudin was even telling Ahmadi’s that even if MGA claimed law-bearing prophethood, all Ahmadi’s should still accept him.

The PDF
Jihad and The British Government

Links and Related Essays
https://www.alislam.org/library/books/BritishGovt-and-Jihad.pdf

http://www.aaiil.org/text/books/mga/britishgovernmentjihad/britishgovernmentjihad2011.pdf

https://ahmadiyyafactcheckblog.com/2017/01/04/nabi-ullah-ka-zahoor-aka-appearance-of-the-prophet-of-allah-1911-by-muhammad-zahir-al-din/

https://ahmadiyyafactcheckblog.com/2017/02/23/noorudin-didnt-care-if-mirza-ghulam-ahmad-claimed-even-law-bearing-prophethood/

https://ahmadiyyafactcheckblog.com/2016/09/06/was-noorudin-the-ghost-writer-of-mga/

https://ahmadiyyafactcheckblog.com/2016/10/24/noorudin-and-abdul-karim-were-influenced-by-sir-syed/

https://ahmadiyyafactcheckblog.com/2017/01/02/mufti-muhammad-sadiq-was-a-student-of-noorudin-pre-1891/

https://ahmadiyyafactcheckblog.com/2018/08/26/the-utter-extinction-of-jihad-1902-by-mirza-ghulam-ahmad/

https://ahmadiyyafactcheckblog.com/2018/07/15/mga-forced-noorudin-to-pretend-to-be-hanafi-even-thought-he-was-a-wahabbi-aka-ahl-e-hadith/

https://ahmadiyyafactcheckblog.com/2017/11/05/mirza-ghulam-ahmad-embarrassed-noorudin-in-1891/

https://ahmadiyyafactcheckblog.com/2018/02/24/amatul-hayee-or-amtul-hai-the-daughter-of-nooruddin-and-the-wife-of-the-2nd-khalifa-mirza-basheer-uddin-mahmud-ahmad-and-her-mysterious-death/

https://ahmadiyyafactcheckblog.com/2018/01/04/mirza-ghulam-ahmad-claimed-to-be-the-final-brick-of-prophets/

https://ahmadiyyafactcheckblog.com/2017/08/29/according-to-mirza-ghulam-ahmad-he-manifsted-more-than-10000-miracles-and-the-prophet-saw-manifested-only-3000/

https://ahmadiyyafactcheckblog.com/2017/08/23/in-1891-mirza-ghulam-ahmad-and-his-team-argued-that-a-prophet-could-never-be-a-follower-of-another-prophet-464/

https://ahmadiyyafactcheckblog.com/2016/06/27/do-ahmadis-believe-in-the-same-kalima-as-muslims/

https://ahmadiyyafactcheckblog.com/2019/08/16/in-1911-abdullah-timapuri-claimed-to-be-the-leader-khalifa-of-ahmadis/

http://wiki.qern.org/ha-walters-the-ahmadiya-movement/chapter-ii-2-the-distinctive-claims-of-ahmad—the-expected-mahdi

https://ahmadiyyafactcheckblog.com/2016/06/27/do-ahmadis-believe-in-the-same-kalima-as-muslims/

https://ahmadiyyafactcheckblog.com/2017/02/23/noorudin-didnt-care-if-mirza-ghulam-ahmad-claimed-even-law-bearing-prophethood/

http://www.aaiil.org/text/books/mali/splitahmadiyyamovement/splitahmadiyyamovement.pdf

https://ahmadiyyafactcheckblog.com/2017/03/03/mirza-ghulam-ahmad-got-stroked-during-salaat/

https://ahmadiyyafactcheckblog.com/2017/08/03/islami-qurbani-by-qazi-yar-mohammed-1920-printed-at-riaz-e-hind-press-amritsar-district-kangra/

http://wiki.qern.org/ahmadiyya/organisations/qadiani-claimants/abdullah-timapuri

https://ahmadiyyafactcheckblog.com/2017/05/20/an-ahmadi-claimed-prophethood-in-late-1901-or-early-1902-and-was-boycotted-by-ahmadis-chiragh-din-of-jammu-jamooni/

https://ahmadiyyafactcheckblog.com/2017/01/04/nabi-ullah-ka-zahoor-aka-appearance-of-the-prophet-of-allah-1911-by-muhammad-zahir-al-din/

https://www.alislam.org/library/books/Truth-about-the-Split.pdf

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Who is Shaikh Yacub Ali Irfani?

Intro
Shaikh Yacub Ali Irfani, also spelled as Sheikh Yakoob Ali Irfanee was an Ahmadi who worked as a major confidant and was on MGA’s team of writers/editors/imams.  He seems to have been a student/assistant of Noorudin while he was in Jammu as early as 1886.  He went on to be the main editor of Al-Hakam and then wrote many early biographies on Ahmadiyya.  He also wrote a biography on the wife of MGA, Nusrat Jehan Begum.

1886
Irfani wrote a note in a letter of Noorudin about a potential marriage between MGA and Noorudin’s pre-teen daughter.

1889
He is present at the very first Bait ceremony in Ludhiana but doesn’t take bait with MGA.

1897
MGA makes Irfani the editor of his first newspaper (see Dard, pages 563-564).

January 1909
Irfani vehemently supports the Khilafat of Noorudin (See Truth about the Split and Noorudin by Zaf Khan).

1915
He writes a biographical book which is officially published by the Ahmadiyya community called ‘Hyat-e-Ahmad’.   He wrote 4 historic books in 1915, Sirat-ul-Nabi, Sirat Ahmad, Hyat-e-Ahmad and Sirat Masih Maoud.  We have found a scan from Hyat-e-Ahmad which indicates that mga was born in 1839.  The Khalifa began to officially change this date in 1916 or so.

1918
He wrote another biographical entry by a toilet attendant of MGA, Mir Hamid Shah.

1927
He writes a biography on the father in law of MGA, Mir Nasir Nawab, this is wherein MGA blurts out to the effect that he has cholera.  After this was published, it was a shocker, Ahmadiya leadership ordered a 2nd edition be published and they erased the relevant sentences.

Links and Related Essays
https://ahmadiyyafactcheckblog.com/2017/07/10/ahmadiyya-leadership-admitted-that-mga-used-lots-of-editors-and-ghost-writers/

https://ahmadiyyafactcheckblog.com/2016/12/30/mirza-ghulam-ahmad-lies-about-his-relationship-with-his-newspaper-al-hakam/

https://ahmadiyyafactcheckblog.com/2019/05/19/mirza-ghulam-ahmads-desire-for-a-3rd-marriage-led-him-to-ask-noorudin-about-his-pre-teen-daughter/

https://ahmadiyyafactcheckblog.com/2018/11/25/mir-hamid-shah-and-his-obituary-in-al-hakam-the-english-re-publish/

https://ahmadiyyafactcheckblog.com/2018/02/13/when-did-mgas-marriage-with-his-second-wife-nusrat-jehan-take-place-what-year/

https://ahmadiyyafactcheckblog.com/2017/01/16/hyat-e-nasir-1927-1st-edition-vs-2nd-edition/

https://ahmadiyyafactcheckblog.com/2016/12/20/mirza-tahir-ahmad-authenticated-the-book-hyat-e-nasir-1927/

https://ahmadiyyafactcheckblog.com/2016/12/08/mir-nasir-nawab-the-father-in-law-of-mirza-ghulam-ahmad/

https://www.alislam.org/library/browse/pdf/.urdu.pdf.Seerat-Masih-Mauood-Yaqoob-Ali-Irfani/#page/291/mode/1up

https://ahmadiyyafactcheckblog.com/2017/07/17/ahmadiyya-leadership-lied-about-the-first-bait-ceremony-in-1889/

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Mirza Ghulam Ahmad and 2:62, the “Salvation” or “status” of Non-Muslim’s in an islamic state?

Intro
Chapter 2 of the Quran was revealed to Muhammad just after he arrived in Medina in roughly 2 A.H. and became the General/Leader of the “greater-medina-area”.  2:62 indirectly tells us that there is NO compulsion (see 2:256 also) for any person to join Islam or serve in the military.  These verses seem to be a “peace-time” teaching of Islam.  In fact, this entire Chapter teaches Muslims how to live in a diverse environment and lays the grass-roots for the most basic Islamic teaching, justice.

MGA and his team never really commented  on 2:62 until 1906
MGA never commented on this verse, nor did any of his “ghost-writers” until Dr. Abdul Hakim Khan wrote about it in his Tafsir of the Quran in 1905, which was marketed by the ROR.  In this Tafsir, Dr. Abdul Hakim Khan wrote that belief in MGA was not necessary for any Muslim.  This is where and when MGA took up this topic and he wrote a letter to Dr. Khan explaining how his rejectors were Kafirs.  After MGA died, his sons took this up, in 1911, Mirza Mahmud Ahmad (the soon to be Khalifa) began calling Non-Ahmadi-Muslims as Kafirs and quoting MGA’s letter of 1906.  The soon-to-be-Lahori-Ahmadi’s immediately disagreed, Khwaja Kamaluddin immediately issued a response wherein he claimed the son of the founder was wrong and etc.  This question was left to Nooruddin, who was disabled mentally and physically at the time.  More controversy followed, Noorudin died without officially solving the issue.  The Split happened and this was the main issue between the two groups, prophethood was also included, Ismuhu Ahmad was also included but dropped by 1923 by the Khalifa.  The Qadiani-sect did open Takfir in those days to all Muslims and to the Lahori-Ahmadi’s.  By 1923, the Khalifa ordered Ahmadi’s to stop doing open Takfir, the Takfir went silent, and has been silent and deceptive since 1923.  However, some of the hard-core Ahmadi’s will proudly call the deniers of MGA as Kafirs.

Sir Syed Ahmad Khan on 2:62 in the 1870’s via his Tafsir, “Tafsir-i-Ahmadi”
As we all know, MGA and his team copied Sir Syed Ahmad Khan almost word-for-word, except for the Jesus in India=Yuz Asaf theory, that is very unique to Ahmadiyya.  They also copied Sir Syed Ahmad Khan in terms of “Jesus is Dead” and Jinn=bacteria.  Nevertheless, we are sure that Sir Syed Ahmad Khan used this verse to explain that Christians, Sabians, Jews, and all other pagans were eligible for heaven.  Or at a minimum should be seen and treated as respectful members of society.

MGA never commented on 2:62 in the famous Braheen-e-Ahmadiyya
MGA and his team of writers/scribes totally avoided this verse in this book. It should be remembered that 100+ verses of Quran were touched on in this collection.

MGA waited until 1906 to commentate on this verse
To date, MGA and his team of writers never commented on this verse at all.  We haven’t found any evidence.  What we have found is that MGA was having his beef with an Ahmadi, Dr. Abdul Hakim Khan in 1906 over the implications of this verse.  Dr. Abdul Hakim Khan emphatically wrote in his commentary that belief in MGA was not necessary, which caused MGA to ex-communicate Dr. Khan and to declare Takfir to all Muslims in the world.

1911
Mirza Mahmud Ahmad quotes MGA’s letter to Dr. Khan and does open Takfir.  Kwaja Kamaluddin and Muhammadi Ali object.  Noorudin tries to keep the peace, but fails.

1914
The split happens, the Qadiani-sect breaks away while doing open-Takfir, the Lahori’s refuse to call the belief in MGA as mandatory and also call him a non-prophet type.

1923
The Ahmadiyya Khalifa orders Ahmadi’s to stop doing open Takfir, the Takfir goes underground.

1954
While in court, the Ahmadiyya Khalifa claims that he never meant to do Takfir, and it was only meant as talking down to Muslims and Lahori-Ahmadi’s, in other words, it was only symbolic Takfir.

The 1988 official-5-volume commentary of the Quran by Malik Ghulam Farid and others

 [5 volume commentary]

“””The verse important and much difference arisen about its meaning. Some who are not in the-habit Of making a deep study Of the Quran have hastily jump to the conclusion that, according to this verse, belief in Islam is not necessary. They say that anybody, whether he is a Muslim, Jew, Christian or any other, who sincerely believes in the Last Day and does good deeds will be saved. Nothing can be farther from the truth. The Quran emphatically declares in a number of verses that belief in the Holy Prophet and in his revelation is essential.”””

Additional info on this 5-volume commentary
This commentary seems to have been published in 1947 and then again in the 1960’s.  Those editions were destroyed by Ahmadiyya leadership.

1992

While commenting on this the 4th Khalifa says: [P22 Islam’s response to Contemporary Issues]

“”””As such, followers of all religions based on Divine revelation have been granted the assurance that provided they do not fail to recognize the truth of a new religion (despite their sincere efforts to understand) and stick honestly and truly to the values of their ancestral religion, they have nothing to fear from God and will not be denied salvation.”””

Links and Related Essays
https://ahmadiyyafactcheckblog.wordpress.com/2017/07/21/dr-abdul-hakim-khan-patialvi-vs-mga-continued/

https://ahmadiyyafactcheckblog.com/2016/11/16/2009-tadhkirah-vs-the-2004-tadhkirah-in-terms-of-takfir/

https://ahmadiyyafactcheckblog.com/2018/01/20/a-fake-ahmadiyya-response-to-our-essays-which-expose-ahmadiyya-takfir-from-ahmadi-answers-com/

https://ahmadiyyafactcheckblog.com/2018/01/20/a-muslim-is-one-who-accepts-all-those-appointed-by-god-by-mirza-bashir-uddin-mahmud-ahmad-april-1911/

https://ahmadiyyafactcheckblog.com/2018/01/20/my-beliefs-about-non-ahmadi-muslims-dated-18-august-1911-by-khwaja-kamal-uddin/

https://ahmadiyyafactcheckblog.com/2018/01/18/in-1923-mirza-basheer-uddin-mahmud-ahmad-the-ahmadi-khalifa-he-ordered-ahmadis-to-stop-doing-takfir-on-muslims/

https://ahmadiyyafactcheckblog.wordpress.com/2017/07/16/dr-abdul-hakim-khan-patialvi-speaks-vs-mirza-ghulam-ahmad-1906-1907/

https://ahmadiyyafactcheckblog.wordpress.com/2017/07/15/dr-abdul-hakim-khan-predicted-mirza-ghulam-ahmads-death-the-evidence/

https://ahmadiyyafactcheckblog.wordpress.com/2017/06/07/a-word-for-word-translation-of-the-writings-of-dr-abdul-hakeen-khan-of-patiala/

https://ahmadiyyafactcheckblog.wordpress.com/2017/06/05/dr-khan-wrote-that-ahmadis-were-worhipping-mga-not-allah/

https://ahmadiyyafactcheckblog.wordpress.com/2017/05/07/new-research-data-books-by-dr-abdul-hakeem-khan-have-been-found-vs-mga/

https://ahmadiyyafactcheckblog.wordpress.com/2017/05/09/ahle-hadith-newspaper-vs-mirza-ghulam-ahmad-and-his-situation-with-dr-abdul-hakim-khan-of-patiala/

https://ahmadiyyafactcheckblog.wordpress.com/2017/05/07/dr-abdul-hakeem-khan-the-famous-ahmadi-apostate-wrote-an-english-translation-of-the-quran-in-1905/

https://ahmadiyyafactcheckblog.wordpress.com/2017/07/15/dr-abdul-hakim-khan-predicted-mirza-ghulam-ahmads-death-the-evidence/

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Hani Tahir on “Ijazul Masih” – “The miracles of the Messiah”

Intro
This is an Arabic-only book by MGA and his team of writers which was prompted via MGA’s challenge to Pir Mehar ‘Ali Shah.  In his challenge issued on July 20, 1900, MGA wanted to put at rest various insinuations against him about his lack of knowledge of the Arabic language.  The Muslims of the Punjab knew about MGA, they knew that MGA was using ghost writers and he could barely even speak in Arabic.  MGA’s team invited all so-called scholars and ulema’ specially Pir Mehar ‘Ali Shah to demonstrate their eloquence and fluency of Arabic by participating in a seven-hour live contest of writing a commentary in high flown Arabic on 40 verses on a surah selected through drawing a lot at a public meeting in Lahore where all should gather including MGA (see Hidden Treasures).  We have posted a few officially translated portions of this book here.  MGA never went to the public meeting and was thus humiliated, instead his team wrote this book on that occasion.

Hani Tahir’s commentary on this book
This is the second edition of the book, whose first edition was published eight months ago.

The book consists of four chapters:

The first chapter shows that there was no challenge from the Mirza’s side; it was just an escape from facing the payment of the dowry.

The second chapter speaks about the content of the Mirza’s book “Ijazil Masih”, and shows that the content is hollow and petty, and that no sane person can say what was mentioned in this book; for example: that the age of the world is seven thousand years, and that the Quranic chapter ‘Al-Fatihah’ includes mention about the Mirza’s advent.

The third chapter talks about the language of the Mirza in this book, where there are dozens of grammatical errors, and there are weak expressions and poor language, and there are 71 expressions that are stolen from Al Hariri and Al Hamdhani.

The fourth chapter shows the lies of the Mirza after the publication of this book, and it shows how he escaped from confronting Sanuallah when he came to Qadian to meet him after the publication of the book.

Links and Related Essays

https://ahmadiyyafactcheckblog.com/2017/07/10/ahmadiyya-leadership-admitted-that-mga-used-lots-of-editors-and-ghost-writers/

https://ahmadiyyafactcheckblog.com/2019/02/04/ijazul-masih-1901-some-quotes-the-miracles-of-the-messiah/

https://ahmadiyyafactcheckblog.com/2018/09/18/hazrat-pir-meher-ali-shahs-fight-against-mirza-ghulam-ahmad/

https://ahmadiyyafactcheckblog.com/2018/10/04/maulvi-sher-ali-told-the-world-that-mirza-ghulam-ahmad-would-send-his-arabic-writings-to-noorudin-and-ahsan-amrohi-for-editing/

https://ahmadiyyafactcheckblog.com/2018/09/18/mirza-ghulam-ahmad-and-muqamat-al-hariri/

https://ahmadiyyafactcheckblog.com/?s=Sana

https://ahmadiyyafactcheckblog.com/?s=Noorudin

https://ahmadiyyafactcheckblog.com/?s=Amrohi

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MGA’s failure to speak at the Aligarh College in April-May of 1889

Intro
As we all know, MGA never gave any public lectures in his whole life, before 1889 or after.  MGA always had a follower of his read out these ready made speeches, which were written by MGA’s team of writers.  The main reason that MGA never did public speeches or Friday Sermons or etc was because he spoke with a terrible stutter.  In fact, MGA’s team went out of their way to fabricate speeches that MGA might have given, like Khutba Ilhamia and other talks at the annual Jalsa’s at Qadian.  Even before Khutbah Ilhamia, MGA never led any Eid prayer, he would simply get up to speak and say a few words after the main speech, see MGA’s Eid of 1888.  Nevertheless, after accepting Bait’s from his followers in March of 1889, MGA immediately traveled to Aligarh and was scheduled to give a speech to many Professor’s, Sir Syed would also be in attendance.  However, after MGA arrived in Aligarh, he never came out of his apartment for daily prayers, then, just a few hours before his speech, he declined and abruptly left for Qadian.  This was before Noorudin and Maulvi Abdul Karim had began giving speeches on MGA’s behalf.  They had just taken his Bait however.  Mir Abbas Ali Ludhianvi, Maulvi Abdullah Sanori and Sheikh Hamid Ali accompanied him on this journey (see Mujadid-e-Azim, page 278).  MGA stayed in Aligarh for just a week, after which he returned to Ludhiana. In Aligarh, he was the guest of Tafazul Hussain, Tehsildar, who was at the time serving as the Superintendent of the Deputy Commissioner’s office. There were a couple of report-worthy incidents in Aligarh (IBID).  The name of the speech was supposed to be “The Truth of Islam”.

1890, MGA’s account of this event in Fath-e-Islam
“”””Once I had the occasion to travel to Aligarh at a time when my mind was tired. I had also suffered from this weakness some time earlier in Qadian and I was not in a fit condition
to carry on long conversations or to undertake any intellectual effort…. In Aligarh, while I was in this condition, a Maulavi of the name of Muhammad Isma‘il came to see me and humbly requested me to deliver a sermon…. I accepted his request with pleasure and had in mind to speak in regular public about the essence of Islam…But thereafter God the Almighty dissuaded me from this effort. 

I am sure that as I was not in good health, God the Almighty did not desire that I should suffer some ill consequence from making an intellectual effort and that is why He stopped me from delivering the sermon. On a previous occasion, I had a similar experience.

While I was physically in a weak condition, I saw one of the past Prophets in a vision and he said to me with sympathy and goodwill, ‘Why do you do such hard mental work; if you continue, you will fall ill.’”””” [Fat-he Islam, pp. 27–28 footnote, Ruhani Khaza’in, vol. 3, pp. 17–18](see also, the 2009 online edition of Tadhkirah, pages, 219-219).

Sir Syed Ahmad Khan then makes fun of MGA
See Dard, pages 215-216, footnotes:

“”””Sir Sayyid Ahmad Khan also made Ahmadas the target of his ridicule in his vanity and conceit. He offered to become his disciple and then go to Hyderabad where Ahmadas should show some of his false miracles and he would go round singing his praises. Then the State in its simplicity would give Rs. 10,000 out of which Sir Sayyid would have two-thirds and onethird
would be Ahmad’sas.

It is curious indeed to note here that Sir Sayyid was later on stricken
with sorrow and grief when he and his college suffered a loss of Rs. 1,05,490/- through Sham Bihari Lal. The shock nearly killed him. When Ahmadas knew from God that Sir Sayyid Ahmad Khan was approaching death he invited him to accept the truth by means of an Ishtihar dated
March 12th, 1897, but the world was too much with him. He had even discontinued offering the Salat and observing the fasts.”””

Who was Maulvi Muhammad Ismael?
MGA and other Ahmadiyya sources tell us that MGA was in Aligarh already when this Muslim Maulvi approached MGA and asked him to give a speech.  MGA agreed, however, MGA and other Ahmadiyya sources tell us that MGA was prevented by his GOD to give them speech, and thus he reneged.  However, the truth is that MGA was incapable.  Nevertheless, Maulvi Muhammad Ismael seems to have engaged MGA in some type of Mubahila contest.  He even wrote a book against MGA in 1889.  This might be the first instance of MGA conducting a Mubahila challenge with another Muslim.

Maulvi Muhammad Ismael was a liberal Maulvi who’s friend had visited MGA at Qadian and he says:

“Syed Ahmad Arab, who is my trusted friend, narrated to me, ‘I stayed with Hazrat Mirza in the company of a group of his trusted friends…and discovered that he possesses astrological
instruments that he puts to his use.’”

In response to this charge, MGA challenged Maulvi Muhammad Ismail of Aligarh to a
mubahalah.  MGA wrote:

“I have no recollection of any Syed Ahmad who stayed with me for two months. The onus of producing this person is on Maulvi sahib so that we can ask him face to face what instruments he has seen with me. There is really no need for an Arab, or non- Arab, to give evidence in this matter. I am still alive, so why don’t you, Maulvi sahib, come and stay with me for two months and see for yourself?” (see Mujadid e Azim again).

Ahmadiyya sources tell us that Maulvi Muhammad Ismael died a short while after
We have not confirmed this as of yet, however, Ahmadiyya sources should never be trusted.  Nevertheless, we have reported what they wrote.

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