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Mirza Ghulam Ahmad and his ghost writers called the sahaba as fools (nadaan)

Intro
In terms of 3:144, MGA and his ghost writers had always argued that the sahaba knew that Eisa (As) was dead. However, after MGA died, and via BA5 (Barahin-i-Ahmadiyya part-5), the Khalifa, Maulvi Noorudin invented the idea that the sahaba believed that Eisa (as) was alive and were corrected by Abu Bakr upon the death of MGA. This argument can be found in Nusratul-Haqq [‘Help of God’], which is a sub-section of BA-5.

This wasn’t the first time that MGA disrespected the sahaba of Muhammad (saw), MGA disliked the name Fatima and saw it as a sign of sadness and pain. MGA also disrespected Fatima’s (ra) children, Hassan and Hussain. MGA also disrespected Ali (ra). MGA even called the killing of Maulvi Abdul Latif as greater than that of Imam Hussain. 

MGA even called Abu Hurraira as stupid (ghabi). Omar Khan explains how Mirza Ghulam Ahmad disrespected Muhammad (saw), Noah (as), Yusuf (as) and Esa (as). Mirza Ghulam Ahmad accused Esa (as) of getting oil massages by adulterous women. Mirza Ghulam Ahmad even said that if the people of Noah (as) had been given the amount of signs that he (MGA) had been given, those people wouldn’t have died terribly.
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Ahmadiyya leadership admitted (in the 1930’s) that MGA used lots of editors and ghost writers

Intro
Mirza Ghulam Ahmad and Maulvi Noorudin created Ahmadiyya as their collective brainchild.  MGA would have the dreams and make the wild claims and Noorudin would defend MGA and build a team of writers, imams and language scholars. MGA knew Noorudin from the 1870’s, they both had correspondance with Sir Syed in this era also, they were both also members of the famous Ahl-e-Hadith sect of Northern India, this sect never numbered more than 100,000 in British India in the late 1890’s, thus, almost everyone knew each other.  Here are some names of the main ghost writing team, Maulvi Abdul Karim, Maulvi Mufti Muhammad Sadiq, Maulvi Sher Ali and Hakim Fazl Din of Bhera. Some other people who came independently, yet still joined MGA’s team was Maulvi Muhammad Ahsan Amrohi, who was also a member of the Ahl-e-Hadith sect, in fact, uptil his job with MGA, he worked for the founder of the Ahl-e-Hadith sect, Syed Nazeer Husain from Delhi and Siddiq Hasan Khan of Bhopal. Maulvi Muhammad Ali was another, however, he came via Khwaja Kamaluddin and the prominent Ahmadi’s of Lahore.
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MGA’s ghost writers argue on the prophethood of MGA in 1900

Intro

I wanted to post a reference from the writings of Mahmud Ahmad in 1915 as he argued that MGA was in fact a prophet, however, without law.

The reference

“At last that event did take place. In the year 1900, Maulavi ‘Abdul Karim, the preacher of the Friday sermon, gave a sermon in which he, used the words Nabi (Prophet) and Rasul (Messenger) for the Mirza. This caused great irritation to Maulavi Sayyid Muhammad Ahsan Amrohawi. When Maulavi ‘Abdul Karim came to know of this, he gave another Friday sermon in which be addressed the Mirza, requesting him to contradict his belief, if he was wrong in considering him to be a prophet and Messenger of God. After the Friday prayers were over, Maulavi ‘Abdul Karim caught hold of the skirt of the Mirza’s apparel and requested him to correct him in his beliefs if they were erroneous. The Mirza turned around and said that he, too, held the same belief. Meanwhile, Maulavi Muhammad Ahsan had been greatly agitated by the sermon and in anger was pacing the floor of the mosque. On Maulavi ‘Abdul Karim’s return, he began to quarrel with him. When their voices rose very high, the Mirza came out of his house and recited the Qur’anic verse: “O ye who believe! Don’t raise your Voice above the voice of the Prophet.”

(This event is based on the report of a speech of Sayyid Sarwar Shah Qadiani at an annual conference held in Qadian, and published in al- Fadhl, Vol. X, No. 51, dated january.4,1923)

(See also Haqiqat al- Nubuwat, p 124.[published in 1915])

Conclusion
MGA had multiple ghost-writers.  In this case, Maulvi Amrohi (who was the first payed Ahmadi-mullah), he didn’t know that MGA had finally claimed prophethood and Maulvi Abdul Kareem was ordered to pronounce it.  They proceeded to argue, then MGA quoted the Quran and thus claimed prophethood openly for the first time (summer 1900). However, he remained silent for an additional 1 1/2 years or roughly 14+ months.

Later on, after “Correction of an Error” was published, Maulvi Amrohi wrote a rebuttal to an inquiring mind who accused MGA of claiming prophethood, however, Maulvi Amrohi very tactfully only denied independent prophethood, he never even mentioned the “The Ummati-Nabi”.  Fast forward to 1914, Maulvi Amrohi nominated Mahmud Ahmad as Khalifa and sided with him in his first year of his Khilafat.  He even read Mahmud Ahmad’s 2 books on the subject of prophethood, i.e. Qaul al Fasl and Haqiqatun Nubuwwat, however, in the summer of 1915, he seems to have had a change of heart and denounced MGA’s claim of prophethood and deposed Mahmud Ahmad as Khalifa.  He then sided with the Lahori-Ahmadis and died in 1919 in this state.

 

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Was Noorudin the Ghost-writer of MGA?

This is a quick essay and referencing post that I wanted to create.  Here is the reference:

“””Many people used to say that his holiness, the Promised Messiah, did not know even Urdu and someone else wrote the books which were attributed to him. The others held even a worse opinion about his writing potentialities. They believed that Shaikh Nuruddin was the person who wrote the books for him.” (Al-Fadl, February 5, 1929; by Mirza Mahmood Ahmad Qadiani)””””

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On May 15th, 1908, Mirza Ghulam Ahmad was challenging the Muslims of British India

Intro
Just 13 days before MGA died, he was boasting about how he had outlived some of his opponents and was living a good life, there was no sign of any illness, nor was there any concern. In fact, the first few pages of Chashma-e-Ma‘rifat contain an announcement (see in the below) wherein MGA was boasting as such. Later on in the book, MGA discusses the prediction of Abdul Hakim of Patiala, the famous ex-qadiani.

MGA died during the early hours of May 26th, 1908, most likely at 1-2am. After MGA’s body was taken to Qadian, the Al-Badr published an edition of May 26th, 1908, and immediately fabricated some revelations which seem to indicate that MGA might die. These are a total fabrication (see in the below). This is proof that the Ahmadiyya ghost writers and editing team always fabricated revelations after-the-fact.
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Announcement of May 15th, 1908, via Chasma e Marifat

Chashma-e-Ma‘rifat, Ruhani Khaza’in, vol. 23, pp. 2-4, see also Essence of Islam Vol.3

“”””Ever since God has named me the Promised Messiah and Mahdi, those who call themselves Muslims and call me as a disbeliever, have been greatly agitated against me. I have proved my claim clearly on the basis of the Holy Qur’an and Ahadith, but they deliberately ignored what I said. Then God manifested many heavenly signs in my support but they derived no benefit from these either. Thereafter many of them came forward for Mubahalah and some of them, who claimed to be recipients of revelation, predicted that I shall be destroyed within a specific period during their very lives, but they were themselves destroyed while I lived. Alas, even then the Muslims did not reflect that if all my claims had been of my own making, my opponents would not have been defeated in each and every case. They have been condemned as false by the Holy Qur’an. The Ahadith describing the spiritual ascension of the Holy Prophetsa and the Hadith which predicts that the Promised Messiah would be one of the Muslims, proves that they are liars. The results of the Mubahalahs proclaim their falsehood. Then by what authority do they so daringly oppose and reject me, who has been sent by God, and has continued to call them to the truth for nearly twenty-six years? Have they not experienced the warning conveyed in the verse:

—Some of that which he threatens you with will surely befall you.’— Al-Mu’min, 40:29 [Publisher]

Where is Ghulam Dastgir who supplicated for my destruction in his book Faid-e-Rahmani, and prayed for the death of whichever of us was false? Where is Maulavi Charagh Din of Jammu who stood up for Mubahalah against me and predicted my death on the basis of a revelation he was supposed to have received? Where is Faqir Mirza who had a large following and who predicted my death with great enthusiasm. He even announced that God had informed him from His throne that I was an impostor and would die during his own lifetime in the following month of Ramadan. But when Ramadan came, it was he himself who died of the plague. Where is Sa‘d-ullah of Ludhiana who stood up for Mubahalah against me and predicted my death? He died of the plague in my lifetime. Where is Maulavi Mohy-ud-Din of Lahore who called me the Pharaoh and predicted my death in his lifetime and published several of his supposed revelations concerning me? He too passed away in my lifetime. Where is the accountant Babu Ilahi Bakhsh of Lahore, the author of ‘Asa-e- Musa, who described himself as Moses and called me Pharaoh and predicted my death by the plague in his own lifetime, and published several other prophecies about my ruin? He too died of plague within my lifetime, thus bearing witness that his book ‘Asa-e-Musa was false and
a bundle of impostures. All these people had hoped that I would become an illustration of the verse:

–‘If he be a liar, on him will be the sin of his lie.’—Al-Mu’min, 40:29 [Publisher]

But they themselves illustrated this verse by their ruin. By destroying them God also made me an illustration of the second part of the same verse:

–‘But if he is truthful, then some of that which he threatens you with will surely befall you.’—Al-Mu’min, 40:29 [Publisher]

Have not all these events fully established the design of God Almighty? Yet it was necessary for my opponents to have rejected me because of the Divine prediction published 26 years ago in Brahin-e-Ahmadiyyah:

A Warner came to the world and the world did not accept him, but God will accept him and will establish his truth with powerful assaults.

I am certain that God will not stop His signs till my truth is made manifest to the world. Today, 15th May 1908, it has occurred to me that there is another method by which a God fearing person may perchance emerge from the dangerous whirlpool of denial. It is as follows: Someone out of my opponents who deems me a disbeliever and a liar should obtain the attention of at least ten reputed clerics, or of at least ten well known leading personalities, and should come out against me in order to carry out a test of our truth or falsehood. We should select two persons who are critically ill and each of them should, by the drawing of lots, be allocated to each of us for prayer. Thereafter, the one whose patient recovers completely or lives longer than the other patient, will be considered true. All this is in the hand of Allah Almighty, and, relying on His promise, I predict that God will either bestow full health on the patient allocated to me or will grant him longer life than the other patient; and this will be the testimony of my truth. If this does not happen, it may be concluded that I am not from God. But it will be necessary that the person who stands up against me, and the ten Maulavis or leading personalities who support him, must announce in three leading papers that, in the case of my triumph, they will accept me and join my Jama‘at. I shall also be bound by similar conditions…. One benefit resulting from such a contest would be that God Almighty would bestow new life upon someone dangerously ill, who has lost all hope of life, and would thus manifest a sign of reviving the dead. Secondly, the contention between us will be judged peacefully and easily. Peace be on him who follows the right path. Announced by: Mirza Ghulam Ahmad Qadiani, The Promised Messiah. 15 May, 1908.””””
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MGA challenging Abdul Hakim of Patiala, the ex-qadiani

MIRZA AND DR ABDUL HAKIM KHAN PATIALVI.
BOOK CHASHMA E MARIFAT PAGE NO 336-337
MIRZA WRITES :-

“””SIMILARLY MANY ENEMIES AMONG MUSLIMS STOOD AGAINST ME AND WERE KILLED. NOW THERE APPEARED ONE LAST ENEMY KNOWN AS DR ABDUL HAKIM KHAN PATIALVI. HE IS A DOCTOR FROM PATIALA HE CLAIMS THAT I WOULD BE KILLED IN HIS LIFE UPTO 4TH AUGUST 1908, AND THIS WOULD BE A SIGN OF HIS TRUTH FULLNESS AND HE CLAIMS IT IS A REVELATION TO ME FROM ALLAH SWT. HE DECLARES ME AS KAZZAB, DAJJAL AND KAFIR. 
HE TOOK MY ALLEGIANCE AND REMAINED MY FOLLOWER FOR 20 YEARS.BUT WHEN I GAVE HIM AN ADVISE HE DEVIATED. THE ADVISE WAS GIVEN JUST FOR ALLAH,S SAKE WHICH WAS THAT HE WAS OF THE FAITH THAT ONE CAN GET DELIVERANCE IN THE WORLD HEREAFTER WITHOUT ACCEPTING HAZRAT MUHAMMAD S.A.W. I TOLD HIM THAT THIS BELIEF IS AGAINST ISLAM AND MAJORITY OF THE ELDERS OF ISLAM.BUT HE TURNED A DEAF EAR TO IT, FINALLY I REMOVED HIM FROM MY JAMMAT.THEN HE PROPHESIED THAT I WOULD BE KILLED BY 4TH AUGUST 1908 IN HIS LIFE TIME. BUT COUNTERING HIS PROPHESY, GOD HAS INFORMED ME THAT HE HIMSELF WOULD RECEIVE AZAB AND GOD WOULD KILL HIM AND WILL PROTECT ME FROM HIS EVIL.SO THIS IS THE CASE WHICH IS NOW IN THE COURT OF ALLAH FOR DECISION.”””

The scan

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Alleged revelations of MGA which were published in the May 26th, 1908 edition of the Al-Badr
See Tadhkirah

[al-Badr, vol. 7, no. 21, May 26, 1908, p. 7 and
al-Hakam, vol. 12, no. 35, May 30, 1908, p. 1]

(1) [Urdu] Tunnel (2) [Arabic] [It is time to march; again, it is time to march.]
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[Urdu] Be not afraid, O believers.

[al-Badr, vol. 7, no. 21, May 26, 1908, p. 7 and
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[al-Badr, vol. 7, no. 21, May 26, 1908, p. 7 and
al-Hakam, vol. 12, no. 35, May 30, 1908, p. 1]

[Arabic] I shall stand with My Messenger.
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“Tafseer-ul-Quraan ma` Usool-e-Tafseer” by Sir Syed Ahmad Khan (1880)

Intro
17 October 1817 – 27 March 1898), commonly known as Sir Syed Ahmad Khan (also Sayyid Ahmad Khan). He seems to have been a member of the growing Ahl-e-hadith movement in Northern India. However, by the 1860’s, he was a hybrid version of a Quranist. 

The Tafseer (commentary) was originally published, probably in parts, in the 1880’s. It does not cover the entire Quraan; it only goes up to Chapter 17, Soorah Banee Israa-eel. Sir Sayyad died
before he was able to complete the work. Chiragh Ali was a student or colleague of Sir Syed and was publishing similar material from Aligarh.

The order of publishing is as follows:

Vol. I Aligarh, 1880.
Vol. II Aligarh, 1882, Agra, 1903.
Vol. III Aligarh, 1885.
Vol. IV Aligarh, 1888.
Vol. V Aligarh, 1892.
Vol. VI Aligarh, 1895.
Vol. VII Agra, 1904.

In this Tafseer, Sir Syed Ahmad Khan denied the physicality of the Miraaj, the concept of the Mahdi, the death of Eisa (as), the denial of Jinn, the denial that Adam (As) was the first human and etc etc.

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Why do Ahmadi’s argue that per 5:14, all Jews and Christians won’t convert to Islam when Esa (as) returns?

Intro
Qadiani-Ahmadi’s sometimes quote 5:14 (5:15 in the Qadiani-Ahmadi Quran) as they argue against 4:159 and the fact that it clearly says that ALL Christians and Jews will convert to Islam when Esa (as) physically returns. However, 5:14 of the Quran only states how Christians and Jews will be arguing with each other until the Day of Judgement (see Suyuti). This verse doesn’t negate the info in 4:159. Continue reading “Why do Ahmadi’s argue that per 5:14, all Jews and Christians won’t convert to Islam when Esa (as) returns?”

Did Ibn Abbas ever do a Mubahila?

Intro
Mubahila is not a method that Muslims should use when at differences with each other, in fact, Muslims shouldn’t resort to prayer duels at all. Muhammad (SAW) may have asked for a prayer duel with the Christians of Najran in the final year of his life (see 3:61 of the Quran). However, this incident was about the divinity of Esa (As) and how it was false. This was not an example of what to do when at odds with Muslims. There are no hadith that explain the purport of 3:61. Continue reading “Did Ibn Abbas ever do a Mubahila?”

Mirza Ghulam Ahmad claimed that Noorudin and Muhammad Ahsan Amrohi were the 2 angels that he descended with

Intro
MGA and his team of writers were always perplexed about a hadith report from Sahih-Muslim and an identical report from Ibn Majah. In both of these hadith, it was told by Muhammad (saw) that when Esa (as) would physically descend from heaven, he would physically have 2 angels on his side. In 1914, Kwaja Kamaluddin tells us (See The Causes of Internal Dissensions in the Ahmadiyya Movement, By Khwaja Kamaluddin, 1914) that these 2 angels were Noorudin and Syed Muhammad Ahsan Amrohi. MGA also said it in one of his books, however, we can’t find that at the moment.

In Khwaja’s book, he didn’t talk about the hadith specifically, however, we know that this is the famous hadith from Muslim and Ibn Majah (when they refer to the 2 angels).
Continue reading “Mirza Ghulam Ahmad claimed that Noorudin and Muhammad Ahsan Amrohi were the 2 angels that he descended with”

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