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Ahmadiyya leadership admitted (in the 1930’s) that MGA used lots of editors and ghost writers

Intro
Mirza Ghulam Ahmad and Maulvi Noorudin created Ahmadiyya as their collective brainchild.  MGA would have the dreams and make the wild claims and Noorudin would defend MGA and build a team of writers, imams and language scholars. MGA knew Noorudin from the 1870’s, they both had correspondance with Sir Syed in this era also, they were both also members of the famous Ahl-e-Hadith sect of Northern India, this sect never numbered more than 100,000 in British India in the late 1890’s, thus, almost everyone knew each other.  Here are some names of the main ghost writing team, Maulvi Abdul Karim, Maulvi Mufti Muhammad Sadiq, Maulvi Sher Ali and Hakim Fazl Din of Bhera. Some other people who came independently, yet still joined MGA’s team was Maulvi Muhammad Ahsan Amrohi, who was also a member of the Ahl-e-Hadith sect, in fact, uptil his job with MGA, he worked for the founder of the Ahl-e-Hadith sect, Syed Nazeer Husain from Delhi and Siddiq Hasan Khan of Bhopal. Maulvi Muhammad Ali was another, however, he came via Khwaja Kamaluddin and the prominent Ahmadi’s of Lahore.

Maulvi Abdul Kareem, Maulvi Ahsan Amrohi and Maulvi Noorudin were the imams at Qadian
MGA never led any prayers in any mosque in his whole life. He needed some imams to do this job for him. They led the prayers at Masjid Mubarak and Masjid Aqsa on Friday’s for Juma or for Eid. Their imamate was mostly via the Masjid Mubarak, Maulvi Abdul Kareem was the main imam.

They all lived together
MGA and his whole family, Noorudin and his whole family, Maulvi Ahsan Amrohi and his whole family. Later on, roughly 1899-1903, Mufti Muhammad Sadiq and his whole family moved in, Maulvi Muhammad Ali and his whole family also moved in. We estimate that 50-60 people lived with MGA in his mansion at Qadian by 1907.

MGA had a broken right arm from his youth
MGA could not be a serious writer, his arm just didn’t have the strength required to write all day, he thus had his team write and advise him accordingly, he would have his scribes send all writings to Noorudin, Amrohi and Abdul Karim for final approval. In fact, MGA needed toilet attendants to help him relieve himself.

MGA spoke with a huge stutter and thus couldn’t be an Imam
The main issue was that MGA spoke with a terrible stutter his entire life. Thus, he could never give a proper speech, give adhan, or lead prayers.

MGA was high on opium and indulged in massages
Ahmadiyya literature is filled with data which proves that MGA was taking opium everyday just to alleviate his pain from his many ailments. Thus, MGA could not be a writer and come up with these claims, Noorudin managed all of this for MGA. MGA got massages from men and women, and sometimes all night.

Amrohi didn’t want MGA to claim prophethood
MGA’s son tells us that there was a huge argument on this topic in 1900. Ahsan Amrohi had no idea that MGA was about to claim prophethood and was shocked, whereas, Maulvi Abdul Kareem knew the inside story. After initially following the Qadiani-Ahmadi’s and supporting the prophethood of MGA, Amrohi recanted and seems to have joined the Lahori-Ahmadi’s, he was dead by 1919 nevertheless.

Noorudin wrote BA5 after MGA died and published it
After MGA died, many old books were being published, “Jesus in India” was published, BA5 was published and many others. The intro to BA5 is a dead give off that someone is an editor here, it mentions the famous 50=5 argument, Noorudin was obviously the editor.

Some quotes

“His holiness, the Promised Messiah, wrote his book of Tabligh, which is included in his book Aina-e-Kalamat-e-Islam in Arabic. During the course of its writing, he used to send the manuscript to the philosopher of the community, Nuruddin, for proof reading. After this, he used to send it to ustad Abdul Karim so that he may translate it in Persian.”  (Al-Fadl, January 15, 1929). 
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“His holiness (Mirza) used to send manuscripts of his Arabic books to his first Caliph (Nuruddin) and also to Ustad Mohammad Ahsan. The first caliph used to return the manuscripts after reading them, mostly as he took them. As for Ustad Muhammad Ahsan, he exerted his utmost effort and at some places used to change words for correction.” (Seerat-ul-Mahdi, Vol. 1, P. 91).

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Mirza Ghulam Ahmad even asked others to submit articles to be included in his book. Here is a letter Mirza composed to Chiragh Ali:

“I have been much pleased to receive your letter. From the very beginning, it has been my desire to serve Islam. Your book has encouraged me tremendously… If you have any articles, send them over to me… Your article about confirmation of prophethood has not reached me so far, although I have waited for it long. Therefore, I bother you once again to send me your article without delay. I would like you to write another article for me about affirmation of the reality of Quran, so that I may be able to include it in my book Baraheen-e-Ahmadiyyah.”
(Seyar-ul-Musannifin, Letter to Chiragh Ali;)(As reported in Qadiyaniat-An Analytical Survey).  

The scans
 

 

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MGA’s ghost writers argue on the prophethood of MGA in 1900

Intro

I wanted to post a reference from the writings of Mahmud Ahmad in 1915 as he argued that MGA was in fact a prophet, however, without law.

The reference

“At last that event did take place. In the year 1900, Maulavi ‘Abdul Karim, the preacher of the Friday sermon, gave a sermon in which he, used the words Nabi (Prophet) and Rasul (Messenger) for the Mirza. This caused great irritation to Maulavi Sayyid Muhammad Ahsan Amrohawi. When Maulavi ‘Abdul Karim came to know of this, he gave another Friday sermon in which be addressed the Mirza, requesting him to contradict his belief, if he was wrong in considering him to be a prophet and Messenger of God. After the Friday prayers were over, Maulavi ‘Abdul Karim caught hold of the skirt of the Mirza’s apparel and requested him to correct him in his beliefs if they were erroneous. The Mirza turned around and said that he, too, held the same belief. Meanwhile, Maulavi Muhammad Ahsan had been greatly agitated by the sermon and in anger was pacing the floor of the mosque. On Maulavi ‘Abdul Karim’s return, he began to quarrel with him. When their voices rose very high, the Mirza came out of his house and recited the Qur’anic verse: “O ye who believe! Don’t raise your Voice above the voice of the Prophet.”

(This event is based on the report of a speech of Sayyid Sarwar Shah Qadiani at an annual conference held in Qadian, and published in al- Fadhl, Vol. X, No. 51, dated january.4,1923)

(See also Haqiqat al- Nubuwat, p 124.[published in 1915])

Conclusion
MGA had multiple ghost-writers.  In this case, Maulvi Amrohi (who was the first payed Ahmadi-mullah), he didn’t know that MGA had finally claimed prophethood and Maulvi Abdul Kareem was ordered to pronounce it.  They proceeded to argue, then MGA quoted the Quran and thus claimed prophethood openly for the first time (summer 1900). However, he remained silent for an additional 1 1/2 years or roughly 14+ months.

Later on, after “Correction of an Error” was published, Maulvi Amrohi wrote a rebuttal to an inquiring mind who accused MGA of claiming prophethood, however, Maulvi Amrohi very tactfully only denied independent prophethood, he never even mentioned the “The Ummati-Nabi”.  Fast forward to 1914, Maulvi Amrohi nominated Mahmud Ahmad as Khalifa and sided with him in his first year of his Khilafat.  He even read Mahmud Ahmad’s 2 books on the subject of prophethood, i.e. Qaul al Fasl and Haqiqatun Nubuwwat, however, in the summer of 1915, he seems to have had a change of heart and denounced MGA’s claim of prophethood and deposed Mahmud Ahmad as Khalifa.  He then sided with the Lahori-Ahmadis and died in 1919 in this state.

 

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Was Noorudin the Ghost-writer of MGA?

This is a quick essay and referencing post that I wanted to create.  Here is the reference:

“””Many people used to say that his holiness, the Promised Messiah, did not know even Urdu and someone else wrote the books which were attributed to him. The others held even a worse opinion about his writing potentialities. They believed that Shaikh Nuruddin was the person who wrote the books for him.” (Al-Fadl, February 5, 1929; by Mirza Mahmood Ahmad Qadiani)””””

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Mirza Ghulam Ahmad claimed that Adam (as) was born a twin (in pairs), totally unislamic

Intro
In 1907, in MGA’s famous book, Haqiqatul Wahy, MGA claimed that Adam (as) was born as a twin. This seems to be the first time that MGA used his argument in his career. We haven’t found any instances before this. This belief is totally unislamic. In the Quran, 2:35-36, proves that Adam (as) was living in Jannah (heaven) with Allah. Allah then created Eve. Allah then sent them both to Earth, through the 7 heavens. Historically, in 1898, in Kitab ul Barriya, MGA was claiming that he was born with a twin sister, however, this seems to be a lie. It seems that MGA was creating a back story. About 10 years later, MGA was asserting that Adam (as) was created as a twin (see the full quote in the below). Later on, in Malfuzat, MGA and his team of writers seems to have given additional data on Adam (as) not being the first man. Watch my video on this here.
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Allah made pairs after he sent Adam (as) and Eve to Earth

Adam (as) and Eve were the two first humans on Earth. Allah them brought animals, fruit, sugar, chocolate, all in pairs. This is what the verses of the Quran mean when taken together. There are about 9 verses in the Quran which refer to Allah creating in pairs. However, this doesn’t contradict the idea that Adam (as) was not born a twin. Tafsir ibn Kathir tells us that Allah created Eva (as) from the rib (bone and blood) of Adam (as). Allah created everything from dust, its all the same ingredients, just look at the table of elements, they prove that Allah can make a human from another human easily.

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Verses which prove that humans were made in pairs after Adam (as) was sent to Earth

78:8—–“””And We created you in pairs””

53:45, 51:49, 55:52, 43:12, 42:11, 36:36, 35:11 and 39:6.

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1907, pages 253-254, online english edition and page 569

“””Muslims who were gifted with spiritual visions have foretold that the Promised Messiah—who is the last Khalifah and Khatamul-Khulafa’ [Seal of the Khulafa’]—is like Adam in that he would be born at the end of 6th Millennium, just as Adam was born at the end of the sixth day. Moreover, like Adam, he would be born on Friday and would be a twin birth. Just as Adam was born in the manner of a twin—Adam first, and then Eve—similarly, the Promised Messiah would be born twin. So, Allah be praised and thanked that I am the fulfilment of this prophecy of the mystics. I, too, was born a twin at dawn on a Friday with the sole difference that the first to be born was a girl whose name was Jannat—and she went to Jannat [Paradise] after a few days and after her I was born. Sheikh Muhy-ud-Din ibn-e-‘Arabi has recorded this prophecy in his book Fusus, and has also written that he [the Promised Messiah] would be of Chinese descent. In any case, these three prophesies reinforce one another. Because they have been fulfilled, they have acquired the status of certainty that no sensible person can deny.””

Page 569
“””It was, therefore, necessary that the like of Adam who, in other words is referred to as the Promised Messiah, should be born at the end of the sixth millennium which is symbolized by Friday, the day on which Adam was born. So was I brought into being by God. Thus, according to all this, I was born in the sixth millennium. And this is a strange coincidence that I was born on a Friday according to the calendar in use. Also, just as Adams [the progenitors] were born male
and female, so was I born as a twin. A girl was with me who was born first and then I was born after her. These are the facts of my life which provide the seeker after truth with clear evidence. In addition, there are thousands of other Signs some of which have already been recorded by
way of illustration.”””
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1895 in Arya Dharam:

Urdu Transliteration—-“”””jasay Hazrat Hawa Hazrat Adam ki pasli sa nikali gae aisay he har yak larkay ki joroo us ki pasli sa nikali gae ho””””

“””Just like Hazrat Hawa was created by rib of Hazrat Adam same as each boy’s wife was created from his rib. (rk vol 10 Aariya Darham page 39)”””

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Additional lies and cover up…

In this video…(Retrieved on 10-18-16)these Ahmadis argued that women were created before men and thus supported MGA’s writings on the topic. They also explained away the Arya Dharam quote as a metaphor. So, they called MGA’s writings on this topic as a metaphor, without addressing the later writings….this is a classic Ahmadi tactic of deflection.

Further, the official Ahmadi-comprehensive english commentary on the Quran tells us that this verse means that mankind was born from 2 souls, man and woman, and thus its supports MGA’s view on this topic.  He then goes on to argue that women werent really created from the rib of a man, and its only a metaphor.

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Other lies about Adam by Ahmadiyya
As we all know…Ahmadis dont believe that Adam (as) was the first human. They believe in many Adams (as)….they also dont believe that Adam (as) physically descended (nuzul) to Earth from Heaven, which is an established islamic belief.

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The Lahori-Ahmadi position

Muhammad Ali (see 4:1) cleverly made the argument that this verse infers that mankind started from “pairs” and not from a single person. He didn’t care to comment on “rib” topic. I’ve found many instances wherein Muhammad Ali has steered clear of certain controversial topics.  

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The Islamic position on the Adam?
Tafsir Ibn Kathir is an amazing classical book on Tafsir. Ibn Kathir tells us that Allah created a single soul, i.e. Adam (as) and then created Hawa aka Eva from the rib of Adam (as).  

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Conclusions

MGA and his team of ghost-writers seem to have denied the islamic concept of creation as early as 1886. The ulema must have been concerned. It was Sir Syed who first challenged this topic and obviously, MGA’s team stole Sir Syed’s argument.

 

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https://ahmadiyyafactcheckblog.com/2017/10/07/noor-uddin-secretly-disagreed-with-mirza-ghulam-ahmad-on-the-birth-of-esa-as/

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https://ahmadiyyafactcheckblog.com/2018/05/16/the-review-of-religions-ror-of-january-1932-pages-30-34images/

https://ahmadiyyafactcheckblog.com/2018/02/03/a-misconception-removed-by-mga-from-1901-published-in-english-in-the-ror-of-1922/

https://ahmadiyyafactcheckblog.com/2020/08/11/ahmadis-dont-believe-that-adam-as-was-the-first-man/

https://ahmadiyyafactcheckblog.com/2017/07/22/mirza-ghulam-ahmad-denied-the-physicality-of-the-miraaj-in-1890-in-izala-auham/

here: http://www.thecult.info/forum/viewtopic.php?f=4&t=387

http://www.thecult.info/forum/viewtopic.php?f=4&t=1601&p=15867&hilit=miraj#p15867

https://ahmadiyyafactcheckblog.com/2017/01/20/quotes-from-izala-auham-1890/

https://ahmadiyyafactcheckblog.com/2016/10/28/izaala-auham-quotes-1891/

https://ahmadiyyafactcheckblog.com/2019/01/29/khutbah-ilhamia-quotes-the-revealed-sermon-april-11th-1900/

https://ahmadiyyafactcheckblog.com/2017/06/27/ahmadis-have-always-lied-about-the-publish-dates-of-izala-auham-1890/

https://ahmadiyyafactcheckblog.com/2017/07/22/mirza-ghulam-ahmad-denied-the-physicality-of-the-miraaj-in-1890-in-izala-auham/

https://ahmadiyyafactcheckblog.com/2019/09/18/mirza-ghulam-ahmad-and-4159-4160-in-the-ahmadiyya-qurans-before-the-death-of-jesus-as/

https://ahmadiyyafactcheckblog.com/2017/08/18/muhammad-ali-writes-that-izala-auham-was-published-in-september-of-1891/

https://ahmadiyyafactcheckblog.com/2017/09/25/mirza-tahir-ahmad-tells-the-world-in-the-90s-that-izala-auham-was-published-in-june-1891/

https://ipfs.io/ipfs/QmXoypizjW3WknFiJnKLwHCnL72vedxjQkDDP1mXWo6uco/wiki/Mohammadi_Begum.html#cite_note-begum-8

B.A. Rafiq, “Truth About Ahmadiyya, online version, https://www.alislam.org/library/book/truth-about-ahmadiyyat/suspension-of-jihad/, Retrieved on 6-7-19).

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Jalsa Salana of 1921 and did Mirza Ghulam Ahmad know Arabic?

Intro
As we all know, MGA didn’t know Arabic properly enough to write academically in Arabic, nor could MGA pronounce easy Arabic letters like Duad, Ain, Ghain and Qaaf, just to name a few.  After 1897, MGA began to claim that he learned 40,000 roots of Arabic in one night. At the Jalsa of 1921, the Khalifa seems to have claimed that MGA did in fact learn arabic in one minute, which is ridiculous.
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December 1921
The quote
Anwar-ul-Ulum, Vol. 6, p. 435
https://www.alhakam.org/did-the-promised-messiah-ever-claim-that-allah-taught-him-40000-arabic-words-in-a-single-night/

The opponents called him [the Promised Messiahas] ignorant and said that he did not know a word of Arabic. However, he replied to them, ‘I know where the treasure of knowledge lies and I will bring knowledge from there.’ Thus, he invoked God the Almighty’s attribute of Al-Aleem [All-Knowing] and he was granted matchless knowledge. He used to say, ‘Once, 40,000 origins of words [of Arabic] were inspired to me by God Almighty in one minute.’” 

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/https://sunnah.com/search/?q=admit+my+sins

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https://ahmadiyyafactcheckblog.com/2017/01/15/in-qadian-mirza-ghulam-ahmad-was-allowed-to-be-intimately-touched-by-all-women-and-men/

https://ahmadiyyafactcheckblog.com/2018/10/04/maulvi-sher-ali-told-the-world-that-mirza-ghulam-ahmad-would-send-his-arabic-writings-to-noorudin-and-ahsan-amrohi-for-editing/

https://ahmadiyyafactcheckblog.com/2016/09/06/mirza-ghulam-ahmad-used-scribes/

https://ahmadiyyafactcheckblog.com/2016/08/13/mga-lied-about-his-opium-use/

https://ahmadiyyafactcheckblog.com/2016/09/30/mgas-ghost-writers-argue-on-the-prophethood-of-mga-in-1900/https://ahmadiyyafactcheckblog.com/2016/12/20/mirza-ghulam-ahmad-didnt-write-braheen-e-ahmadiyya-vol-5/

https://ahmadiyyafactcheckblog.com/2017/12/09/mga-never-led-salaat-in-his-entire-life/

https://ahmadiyyafactcheckblog.com/2017/06/27/muhammad-ali-lived-exclusively-within-mirza-ghulam-ahmads-house-for-almost-10-years-1899-1909/

https://ahmadiyyafactcheckblog.com/2017/06/27/maulvi-abdul-kareem-lived-exclusively-with-mga-on-the-3rd-floor-of-mgas-house/

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https://ahmadiyyafactcheckblog.com/2016/09/06/lecture-ludhiana-was-not-a-lecture-it-was-a-riot/

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https://ahmadiyyafactcheckblog.com/2017/07/16/mirza-ghulam-ahmad-needed-toilet-attendants-his-entire-life/

https://ahmadiyyafactcheckblog.com/2018/12/15/who-is-mirza-ghulam-murtaza-1791-1876/

https://ahmadiyyafactcheckblog.com/2017/01/13/mirza-sultan-ahmad-mgas-eldest-son/

https://ahmadiyyafactcheckblog.com/2016/09/06/mga-used-scribes/

https://ahmadiyyafactcheckblog.com/2017/07/10/ahmadiyya-leadership-admitted-that-mga-used-lots-of-editors-and-ghost-writers/

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https://ahmadiyyafactcheckblog.com/2017/01/02/mufti-muhammad-sadiq-was-a-student-of-noorudin-pre-1891/

https://books.google.com/books?id=n7u2BgAAQBAJ&pg=PA122&lpg=PA122&dq=justice+khosla+and+ahmadis&source=bl&ots=rnKCbukl6c&sig=0mC9sfETFp7JjMgJVAQpBKwxPp0&hl=en&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwj1hNf65MTRAhVSwWMKHX44BngQ6AEIODAI#v=onepage&q=justice%20khosla%20and%20ahmadis&f=false
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Mirza Basheer ud Din Mahmud Ahmad’s comments on 43:63 in Tafsir-i-Saghir

Intro
Just like his father (MGA), Mirza Basheer ud Din Mahmud Ahmad never wrote anything. Ahmadiyya sources claim that he wrote a huge commentary on the Quran called “Tafseer-e-Kabeer”, sometimes spelled as “Tafsir-i-Kabir”. They also claim that he wrote a shorter Tafsir entitled, “Tafseer-e-Sagheer” also spelled as “Tafsir-i-Saghir”. These Tafseer were most likely written by the paid Mullahs who worked directly for the Khalifa. The Khalifa didn’t have a full commentary written on the Quran, only about half, per the Introduction of the 1988 edition of the 5 volume commentary by Malik Ghulam Farid (died in 1977), Mirza Basheer ud Din’s “Tafsir-e-Kabir” only covered Chapters 1, 2, 10-29 and 78–114, he missed Chapters 3-9 and 30-77, he missed 53 chapters and purposely, since most of the controversial verses about Jesus and prophethood were contained therein. Ahmadi sources tell us that the first volume (Most likely Chapters 1-2 only) were published in 1940 and it took 20 years to complete just 2 chapters.

Per 5 Malik Ghulam Farid’s commentary, The first volume comprising the first nine chapters along with an introduction appeared in 1947. The book was found to be too voluminous to be easily handled and, therefore, for the convenience of the readers, it was split into two parts. Volume 1 part I, containing the introduction & the first two chapters (now Vol. 1), was reprinted in 1964, and volume 1 part II, dealing with the next seven chapters (now Vol. 2) was reprinted in 1965 in Pakistan. Further research shows that the 5-volume commentary was first published in 1963 and then in 1968. In terms of 43:63, we are unsure what MGA wrote about it, however, in 1917, Muhammad Ali didn’t even give it a comment in his famous commentary. In 1988, Malik Ghulam Farid also connected this verse with the second coming of Esa (as).
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On 43:63, Pg 651, found by @zafarim786
“”When Isa (as)’s (“Baasit e Sania”) second advent happen, with the sign, he will say I have come to you with wise words to explain to you the things which u differ over, just have fear & consciousness of Allah & be compliant with me.””

The scan of 43:62 from Tafsir-i-Kabir, Pg 651

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In Malik Ghulam Farid’s 1988 edition of the 5-volume commentary of the Quran in english

He writes that this verse, 43:63 is about the second coming of Esa (as), see pages, 2375 and 2376.

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@zafarim786

https://ahmadiyyafactcheckblog.com/2020/03/21/did-mirza-basheer-ud-din-mahmud-ahmad-write-tafseer-e-kabeer-or-even-tafseer-e-sagheer/

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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_English_Commentary_of_the_Holy_Quran

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http://www.reviewofreligions.org/2277/the-last-divine-message-for-mankind/

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https://www.alislam.org/quran/view/?page=-306&region=E1

  1.  The 5 Volume English Commentary of Quran
  2. Jump up^ ‘Introduction’ ; Dictionary of the Holy Quran by Malik Ghulam Farid (2006)[1]
  3. Jump up^ The Abridged Edition
  4. Jump up^ Dictionary of the Holy Quran by Malik Ghulam Farid (2006)

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https://ahmadiyyafactcheckblog.com/2017/07/10/ahmadiyya-leadership-admitted-that-mga-used-lots-of-editors-and-ghost-writers/

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https://ahmadiyyafactcheckblog.com/2016/10/15/sind-holdings-was-owned-by-mirza-muzzafar-ahmad/

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https://ahmadiyyafactcheckblog.com/2017/01/13/mirza-ghulam-ahmad-was-not-allowed-to-teach-his-eldest-sons/

https://www.baituzzafar.com/single-post/2018/03/06/East-Coast-Quran-Conference-2018

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https://ahmadiyyafactcheckblog.com/2017/11/25/mirza-ghulam-ahmad-claims-that-a-muslim-man-should-divorce-his-wife-immediately-for-dialogue-with-men/

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My Maryam – Part I

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https://ahmadiyyafactcheckblog.com/2018/10/08/the-ahmadiyya-khalifa-married-his-first-cousin-in-1935/

https://www.alislam.org/friday-sermon/printer-friendly-summary-2011-11-18.html

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https://ahmadiyyafactcheckblog.com/2018/10/07/mirza-ghulam-ahmad-married-off-his-daughter-when-she-was-11-12-years-old/

https://ahmadiyyafactcheckblog.com/2018/07/26/fauzia-faizi-confirms-that-the-mirza-family-is-full-of-incest-and-rapists/

https://ahmadiyyafactcheckblog.com/2019/05/16/who-is-dr-mir-muhammad-ismail-the-brother-in-law-of-mga/

https://ahmadiyyafactcheckblog.com/2018/02/24/amatul-hayee-or-amtul-hai-the-daughter-of-nooruddin-and-the-wife-of-the-2nd-khalifa-mirza-basheer-uddin-mahmud-ahmad-and-her-mysterious-death/

https://ahmadiyyafactcheckblog.com/2018/09/21/the-promised-messiah-by-mirza-mubarak-ahmad/

https://www.alislam.org/friday-sermon/printer-friendly-summary-2014-11-14.html

https://www.alislam.org/friday-sermon/2013-10-18.html

https://www.alislam.org/friday-sermon/2014-02-21.html

https://ahmadiyyafactcheckblog.com/2017/01/13/mirza-sultan-ahmad-mgas-eldest-son/

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The #Ahmadiyya approach to hadith is totally against common sense and the 4 schools of thought

Intro
#Muslims should never discuss #hadith with #Ahmadis. The reason is quite simple, #ahmadis are taught to follow the revelations of MGA first, then they approach hadith and the Quran. #Ahmadis are essentially working backwards. The #wahabi approach to hadith seems to be the same. It seems that MGA was also a #wahabi (called #ahlehadith in British India), and thus took this from them. Sir Syed was also a Muslims of a #ahlehadith background, however, by 1875, he turned into a Quranist, which is totally fine, we don’t care, we allow Muslims to be adventerous in their beliefs, by 1877, Sir Syed denied the concept of the Mahdi. Nevertheless, this is what the British wanted in India. The British wanted to break Muslims reliance on Hanafi Fiqh, which was used by the #mughalempire as well as the #ottomanempire. In Saudia Arabia, the British created #wahabism and had them do a Jihad against the last Muslim empire, the Ottomans. The Ottomans controlled the oil in Iraq (al-basra) and had to be eliminated, thus they were taken out systematically and a puppet government was installed in Turkey in roughly 1924.

In the below, we have posted the reference from the 1900-1902 era wherein MGA confirms to #Ahmadis (and the world) that his revelations are above any and all hadith and any hadith which don’t match MGA’s revelations should be immediately discarded. We have also posted a reference from 7 years earlier, wherein MGA admits that after the Quran, Bukhari is the most authentic book. We have also posted scans from the English-ROR, which also prove the same.

Furthermore, in terms of hadith, especially when it comes to the Mahdi. #ahmadis cherry pick only 2 hadith, since the other 20+ hadith prove MGA to be a liar. Those 2 hadith are the famous one wherein it is claimed that “No Mahdi, except Esa” (which has been listed by the scholars are a lie) and the shia hadith on the eclipses. These are some classic cases wherein #ahmadis cherry pick as they work backwards to prove that MGA was true. As we all know, initially, from 1880–1891, MGA never mentioned the Mahdi at all. Then, in 1891, as he made his claims of being a Messiah, he was silent on the concept of the Mahdi. In 1892, MGA began to write that all the hadith on the Mahdi were faulty. By 1894, after reading about the pending eclipses, he fraudulently authenticated a Shia hadith that wasn’t even fulfilled properly. After MGA died, in the BA-5 (ocotober-1908), MGA’s ghost writers again wrote that all hadith about the Mahdi were wrong.
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See RK: vol: 19, pg. 140, 1902-1902 era.  “””Ijaz e ahmadi”””

“the basis for our claim is not hadith but Quran and that wahi which comes to us. Yes, in support we also quote those hadith which are according to Quran and do not contradict my wahi.  As for the rest of the hadiths, i throw them away like waste paper..” 

The scan work
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1895
In 1895, MGA wrote some different things on his formula of what Islam is
Arya Dharam, Ruhani Khaza’in, vol. 10, pp. 86-87

“Of the other books that are accepted by us the Sahih of Bukhari ranks as the first. All its Ahadith which are not opposed to the Holy Qur’an are in our view authoritative. Next comes Sahih Muslim. We accept its authority subject to the condition that it should not be opposed to the Holy Qur’an and Sahih Bukhari. Next to them are the compilations of Tirmidhi, Ibn-e-Majah, Muattah of Imam Malik, Nassa’i, Abu Da’ud and Dar Qutni, which we regard as authoritative so long as they are not opposed to the Holy Qur’an and Bukhari and Muslim. These are our religious books and these are the conditions under which we accept them….(…)”
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1924
Khutbatay Mahmoud (page 457)
Maseeh maoud(Mirza qadyani) use too say that ahadees is a work of a juggler, and juggler brings out from the box whatever he wants

Scan 

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Scan from the ROR of May-1903, which also prove the same

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Links and Related Essay’s
https://ahmadiyyafactcheckblog.com/2017/01/25/in-ahmadiyya-islam-the-revelations-of-mgathe-quran/

https://ahmadiyyafactcheckblog.com/2017/09/11/sir-syed-was-the-first-muslim-in-india-to-ever-say-that-all-hadith-on-the-mahdi-were-weak-mga-copied/

https://ahmadiyyafactcheckblog.com/2017/09/25/the-ahmadiyya-fraud-on-eclipses-and-the-mahdi/

https://ahmadiyyafactcheckblog.com/2017/09/16/mirza-ghulam-ahmad-called-muhammad-saw-as-the-perfect-mahdi/

https://ahmadiyyafactcheckblog.com/2017/09/16/imam-suyuti-on-tawaffa/

https://ahmadiyyafactcheckblog.com/2017/09/11/initially-mga-was-downgrading-all-hadith-on-the-mahdi-1890-1891/

https://ahmadiyyafactcheckblog.com/2017/09/25/the-ahmadiyya-fraud-on-eclipses-and-the-mahdi/

https://ahmadiyyafactcheckblog.com/2017/09/09/some-hadith-that-prove-that-the-mahdi-and-esa-as-are-two-separate-people/

https://ahmadiyyafactcheckblog.com/2017/09/09/hadith-on-the-mahdi-scans-and-etc/

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Faslul Khitab by Maulvi Noorudin (1888) confirms that he also believed that Esa (as) would physically return to Earth

Intro
In 1887-1888, Maulvi Noorudin wrote a few book per MGA’s order, he would eventually become MGA’s top ghost writer. Thus, “Faslul Khitab” (4 volumes) was published by Noorudin in 1888 (press data is unknown)(Noordin seems to have written this book while in Poonch, which is on the Azad Kashmir and Kashmir border these days)(See Hazrat Maulvi Noorudin). In this book, Noorudin translated 4:157-159, and agreed with the classic translations of these verses, which insinuate that Esa (as) was raised towards Allah(4:158) and hasn’t died yet (4:159), MGA wrote the same in 1884, in BA-4. Lekh Ram wrote a book vs. Mirza Ghulam Ahmad in 1887 entitled, “Takzib Barahin-i-Ahmadiyya”, in english it would be “Accusing as False the Proofs of Ahmadiya”. Noorudin responded with his 1890 publication, “Tasdiq-i-Barahin i Ahmadiyya”  (Verifying the Proofs of Ahmadiyya) (see Kenneth Jones). After MGA made his wild claims in late 1890 and early 1891, Noorudin’s career as a writer came to an end. He seems to have switched to ghost writer only. In March of 1904, Maulvi Noorudin wrote a book entitled Nur-ud-Din. It is currently online as Nur ul Din on the Qadiani-Ahmadi website. The Al-Badr announced its publishing. It was written in response to a book Tark-i Islam by a former Muslim who joined the Hindu Arya Samaj and had explained the reasons why he had left the religion of Islam. Interestingly enough, even Noorudin wrote that MGA was born in 1839. We came across this data via twitter handle, @zafarim786.

Mujadid e Azim (online english abridged version) tells us: 

“””It contained rebuttals of one hundred and fifty objections raised by the Christian clergy against Islam, and a powerful refutation of Christianity. When the book was finished and published, Maulana Nur-ud-Din once again came to Hazrat Mirza and asked him: “What should I do now?” Hazrat Mirza replied: “Jihad.” Maulana Nurud-Din enquired: “With whom?” Hazrat Mirza replied: “With the Arya Hindus; write a book refuting their religion.” Accordingly, Maulana Nur-ud-Din wrote and published the book Tasdeeq Barahin Ahmadiyya (Verification of the Arguments Supporting Islam), which was a rebuttal of Lekhram’s book, Takzeeb Barahin Ahmadiyya (Falsification of the Arguments Supporting Islam). In this book, too, Maulana Nur-ud-Din effectively answered about a hundred and fifty further criticisms of Islam.”””

Dard on Faslul Khitab
See Life of Ahmad by Dard, online english edition
Dard claims:

“”He called himself Bashir. On April 7th, 1885, he sent eight questions to Maulawi Nur-ud-Dinra, in answer to which he produced Faslul Khitab in 1888. Rev. Thomas Howell made an abortive effort in 1889 to make a reply which was entitled Jawab Ahlil Kitab (Akhtar Hind Press, Amritsar). In those days he was posted at Pind Dadan Khan.””

Scans

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Faslul Khitab Vol 2. P 308

Noorudin writes about 61:6, and how its about Muhammad (saw).  

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Links and Related Essay’s
https://ahmadiyyafactcheckblog.com/2017/09/29/maulana-nur-ud-din-wrote-a-book-entitled-nur-ud-din-1904-mga-was-born-in-1839/

https://ahmadiyyafactcheckblog.com/2018/02/03/in-1884-before-his-wildest-claims-mga-defined-inni-mutawafeeka-wa-raffa-as-i-shall-give-you-full-reward-and-shall-raise-you-towards-me/

فصل الخطاب لمقدمۃ اہل الکتاب

“Supernatural” and “Archeological” aspects of Islam

 

https://ahmadiyyafactcheckblog.com/2018/12/11/mgas-age-prophecy-discussed-in-the-ror-of-march-1914/

https://ahmadiyyafactcheckblog.com/2018/03/05/nooruddin-married-off-his-eldest-son-abdul-haye-in-error-in-roughly-the-1906-1908-era/

https://ahmadiyyafactcheckblog.com/2018/12/08/the-moslem-sunrise-on-the-date-of-birth-of-mirza-ghulam-ahmad-1836-or-1837/

https://ahmadiyyafactcheckblog.com/2018/12/07/the-punjab-chiefs-1909-edition-officially-states-that-mirza-ghulam-ahmad-was-born-in-1839/

https://ahmadiyyafactcheckblog.com/2018/03/03/how-mirza-basheeruddin-mahmud-ahmad-killed-his-own-wife-amtul-hai-the-daughter-of-noorudin/

https://ahmadiyyafactcheckblog.com/2018/02/24/amatul-hayee-or-amtul-hai-the-daughter-of-nooruddin-and-the-wife-of-the-2nd-khalifa-mirza-basheer-uddin-mahmud-ahmad-and-her-mysterious-death/

https://ahmadiyyafactcheckblog.com/2018/03/01/how-did-mirza-mahmud-ahmad-marry-noorudins-daughter-in-1914-amtul-hai/

https://ahmadiyyafactcheckblog.com/2018/12/11/in-1915-yaqoob-ali-arfani-wrote-hayat-e-ahmad-and-confirmed-that-mga-was-born-in-1839/

https://ahmadiyyafactcheckblog.com/2019/06/02/mirza-ghulam-ahmad-and-2106-the-quranic-verse-of-abrogation/

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Why is the arabic word RAFFA used in daily prayers during Sajdah?

Intro
Ahmadi’s are confused as to why the word RAFFA is used during daily prayers while in Sajdah. Ahmadis forget, based on context, most words in any language change meanings. In Sajdah, it means specifically raising of ranks with Allah. However, in the quran, the word RAFFA is used to explain how Allah physically lifted Esa (as) (see 4:158 and 3:55) up to heaven (towards himself). RAFFA in 4:158 and 3:55 means the same as RAFFA in 19:57 in terms of the Prophet Idris (as) aka Enoch (as). In 19:57, Allah told Muslims that the story of Enoch (as) ascending to heaven is in-fact a true story, and thus, allah validated that story from the bible. #ahmadis are told by their mullahs that RAFFA in 4:158 means the same as RAFFA in 43:32, which means the raising in ranks, not a literal raising. In the below, we have found 27 verses of the Quran which have the letters RF, they are explained in the below. 10 times, RAFFA is used to explain a physical lifting and 16 times it used to explain a figurative raising (in ranks or status). I have also written a detailed study on KTM (khatam) in the quran. Interestingly, in 1884, in the BA-4, MGA translated RAFFA as physical lifting towards Allah.

RAFFA in the quran as a physical lifting or something raised above the earth
There are about 10 verses of the quran which speak of a physical lifting or heaven being raised above the earth or raising the walls of a building, or high up on a mountain (where Musa went), they are 2:127, 3:55, 4:154, 4:158, 13:2, 17:49, 19:57, 55:7, 79:28 and 88:18.

RAFFA in the Quran as a figurative raising of ranks
There are 16 verses in the quran wherein RAFFA is used to explain a raising in ranks or some other figurative raising in staus, they are: 2:253, 6:165, 6:83, 7:176, 12:76, 12:100, 24:36, 34:34, 35:10, 40:15, 43:23, 43:32, 58:11, 80:14, 88:13 and 94:4.

RAFFA in the Quran in terms of angels raising us after we die
32:11

Links and Related Essay’s
https://ahmadiyyafactcheckblog.com/2020/04/04/ahmadiyya-mirza-ghulam-ahmad-and-the-physical-raffa-of-idris-as-aka-enoch-as/

https://ahmadiyyafactcheckblog.com/2018/02/03/in-1884-before-his-wildest-claims-mga-defined-inni-mutawafeeka-wa-raffa-as-i-shall-give-you-full-reward-and-shall-raise-you-towards-me/

https://ahmadiyyafactcheckblog.com/2016/10/08/khatam-vs-khatim-in-the-quran-a-research-study/

https://ahmadiyyafactcheckblog.com/2019/09/18/mirza-ghulam-ahmad-and-4159-4160-in-the-ahmadiyya-qurans-before-the-death-of-jesus-as/

https://ahmadiyyafactcheckblog.com/2016/10/27/sir-syeds-view-on-esa-as/

https://ahmadiyyafactcheckblog.com/2017/06/17/nooruddin-urged-mirza-ghulam-ahmad-to-make-the-claim-of-being-like-the-messiah-1882-1884-era/

https://ahmadiyyafactcheckblog.com/2018/02/09/during-the-writing-of-braheen-e-ahmadiyya-mga-masked-his-beliefs-he-was-already-asserting-that-esa-as-died/

https://ahmadiyyafactcheckblog.com/2016/11/12/dard-lied-about-mgas-views-on-esa-as-pre-1891/

https://ahmadiyyafactcheckblog.com/2016/11/14/what-is-maseel-e-maseeh-the-like-of-the-messiah/

https://ahmadiyyafactcheckblog.com/2016/09/30/mga-explains-how-he-misunderstood-his-prophethood-in-1880-and-realized-it-later-on/

https://ahmadiyyafactcheckblog.com/2016/11/12/dard-lied-about-mgas-views-on-esa-as-pre-1891/

https://ahmadiyyafactcheckblog.com/2016/10/24/noorudin-and-abdul-karim-were-influenced-by-sir-syed/

https://ahmadiyyafactcheckblog.com/2016/11/12/dard-lied-about-mgas-views-on-esa-as-pre-1891/

https://ahmadiyyafactcheckblog.com/2017/09/11/sir-syed-was-the-first-muslim-in-india-to-ever-say-that-all-hadith-on-the-mahdi-were-weak-mga-copied/

https://ahmadiyyafactcheckblog.com/2017/09/11/sir-syed-was-the-first-muslim-in-india-to-ever-say-that-all-hadith-on-the-mahdi-were-weak-mga-copied/

https://www.alislam.org/library/book/heavenly-sign/

https://ahmadiyyafactcheckblog.com/2017/06/17/nooruddin-urged-mirza-ghulam-ahmad-to-make-the-claim-of-being-like-the-messiah-1882-1884-era/

https://ahmadiyyafactcheckblog.com/2016/09/06/was-noorudin-the-ghost-writer-of-mga/

https://ahmadiyyafactcheckblog.com/2018/02/09/during-the-writing-of-braheen-e-ahmadiyya-mga-masked-his-beliefs-he-was-already-asserting-that-esa-as-died/

https://ahmadiyyafactcheckblog.com/2017/12/26/did-mirza-ghulam-ahmad-claim-to-be-the-messiah-in-1889/

https://ahmadiyyafactcheckblog.com/2017/07/17/ahmadiyya-leadership-lied-about-the-first-bait-ceremony-in-1889/

http://www.aaiil.org/text/books/mga/deathprophetjesus30versesholyquran/deathprophetjesus30versesholyquran.shtml

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The specific quote from the Sajdah prayer


allähummaghfirlï warhamnï wahdinï wa ‘äfinï warfa‘nï wajburnï warzuqnï

“””O Allah, forgive me, and have mercy on me, and guide me, and grant me security, and raise me up, and make good for me my shortcoming, and provide for me.”””

Links and Related Essay’s
https://www.alislam.org/book/online-salat-guide/sajdah/

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