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Mirza Ghulam Ahmad and his ghost writers called the sahaba as fools (nadaan)

Intro
In terms of 3:144, MGA and his ghost writers had always argued that the sahaba knew that Eisa (As) was dead. However, after MGA died, and via BA5 (Barahin-i-Ahmadiyya part-5), the Khalifa, Maulvi Noorudin invented the idea that the sahaba believed that Eisa (as) was alive and were corrected by Abu Bakr upon the death of MGA. This argument can be found in Nusratul-Haqq [‘Help of God’], which is a sub-section of BA-5.

This wasn’t the first time that MGA disrespected the sahaba of Muhammad (saw), MGA disliked the name Fatima and saw it as a sign of sadness and pain. MGA also disrespected Fatima’s (ra) children, Hassan and Hussain. MGA also disrespected Ali (ra). MGA even called the killing of Maulvi Abdul Latif as greater than that of Imam Hussain. 

MGA even called Abu Hurraira as stupid (ghabi). Omar Khan explains how Mirza Ghulam Ahmad disrespected Muhammad (saw), Noah (as), Yusuf (as) and Esa (as). Mirza Ghulam Ahmad accused Esa (as) of getting oil massages by adulterous women. Mirza Ghulam Ahmad even said that if the people of Noah (as) had been given the amount of signs that he (MGA) had been given, those people wouldn’t have died terribly.
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Ahmadiyya leadership admitted (in the 1930’s) that MGA used lots of editors and ghost writers

Intro
Mirza Ghulam Ahmad and Maulvi Noorudin created Ahmadiyya as their collective brainchild.  MGA would have the dreams and make the wild claims and Noorudin would defend MGA and build a team of writers, imams and language scholars. MGA knew Noorudin from the 1870’s, they both had correspondance with Sir Syed in this era also, they were both also members of the famous Ahl-e-Hadith sect of Northern India, this sect never numbered more than 100,000 in British India in the late 1890’s, thus, almost everyone knew each other.  Here are some names of the main ghost writing team, Maulvi Abdul Karim, Maulvi Mufti Muhammad Sadiq, Maulvi Sher Ali and Hakim Fazl Din of Bhera. Some other people who came independently, yet still joined MGA’s team was Maulvi Muhammad Ahsan Amrohi, who was also a member of the Ahl-e-Hadith sect, in fact, uptil his job with MGA, he worked for the founder of the Ahl-e-Hadith sect, Syed Nazeer Husain from Delhi and Siddiq Hasan Khan of Bhopal. Maulvi Muhammad Ali was another, however, he came via Khwaja Kamaluddin and the prominent Ahmadi’s of Lahore.
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MGA’s ghost writers argue on the prophethood of MGA in 1900

Intro

I wanted to post a reference from the writings of Mahmud Ahmad in 1915 as he argued that MGA was in fact a prophet, however, without law.

The reference

“At last that event did take place. In the year 1900, Maulavi ‘Abdul Karim, the preacher of the Friday sermon, gave a sermon in which he, used the words Nabi (Prophet) and Rasul (Messenger) for the Mirza. This caused great irritation to Maulavi Sayyid Muhammad Ahsan Amrohawi. When Maulavi ‘Abdul Karim came to know of this, he gave another Friday sermon in which be addressed the Mirza, requesting him to contradict his belief, if he was wrong in considering him to be a prophet and Messenger of God. After the Friday prayers were over, Maulavi ‘Abdul Karim caught hold of the skirt of the Mirza’s apparel and requested him to correct him in his beliefs if they were erroneous. The Mirza turned around and said that he, too, held the same belief. Meanwhile, Maulavi Muhammad Ahsan had been greatly agitated by the sermon and in anger was pacing the floor of the mosque. On Maulavi ‘Abdul Karim’s return, he began to quarrel with him. When their voices rose very high, the Mirza came out of his house and recited the Qur’anic verse: “O ye who believe! Don’t raise your Voice above the voice of the Prophet.”

(This event is based on the report of a speech of Sayyid Sarwar Shah Qadiani at an annual conference held in Qadian, and published in al- Fadhl, Vol. X, No. 51, dated january.4,1923)

(See also Haqiqat al- Nubuwat, p 124.[published in 1915])

Conclusion
MGA had multiple ghost-writers.  In this case, Maulvi Amrohi (who was the first payed Ahmadi-mullah), he didn’t know that MGA had finally claimed prophethood and Maulvi Abdul Kareem was ordered to pronounce it.  They proceeded to argue, then MGA quoted the Quran and thus claimed prophethood openly for the first time (summer 1900). However, he remained silent for an additional 1 1/2 years or roughly 14+ months.

Later on, after “Correction of an Error” was published, Maulvi Amrohi wrote a rebuttal to an inquiring mind who accused MGA of claiming prophethood, however, Maulvi Amrohi very tactfully only denied independent prophethood, he never even mentioned the “The Ummati-Nabi”.  Fast forward to 1914, Maulvi Amrohi nominated Mahmud Ahmad as Khalifa and sided with him in his first year of his Khilafat.  He even read Mahmud Ahmad’s 2 books on the subject of prophethood, i.e. Qaul al Fasl and Haqiqatun Nubuwwat, however, in the summer of 1915, he seems to have had a change of heart and denounced MGA’s claim of prophethood and deposed Mahmud Ahmad as Khalifa.  He then sided with the Lahori-Ahmadis and died in 1919 in this state.

 

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Mirza Ghulam Ahmad and his team of writers/readers/editors/researchers/imams

Intro
MIrza Ghulam Ahmad was not capable of reading (since he was blind by age 40-50) and writing (since his right arm was broken), nor was he capable of leading prayers (salaat), he never led a Khutbah Juma or an Eid Khutbah (a few times, after the main Eid speech, MGA made comments, these were mostly unintelligible ramblings, which were edited and created into books). His main ghost writer and manager was Noorudin, who was a capable imam, Noorudin was a member of the Ahl-e-Hadith and his followers of his own before he met MGA. Another Ahl-e-hadith imam that MGA hired was Syed Muhammad Ahsan Amrohi, who moved to Qadian in 1891, he edited most of MGA’s books and newspapers, he was not a student of Noorudin, however, he knew MGA from MGA’s relationship with the Ahl-e-Hadith imam’s of Bhopal. Maulvi Abdul Karim was a student of Noorudin and he was at Ludhiana for the bait ceremony of 1889, he moved to Qadian in 1890-1891 and became the main imam at Masjid Mubarak and Masjid Aqsa. Mufti Muhammad Sadiq was another inside man, he worked in the letters department and became the editor of the Al-Badr in 1905, when the owner died of plague. Another inside worker was MIrza Khuda Bakhsh, another pupil of Noorudin. The final point is that all of these “insiders” lived together in MGA’s house, they were thus able to plan the mission of Ahmadiyya, while MGA did nothing all day.

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What is “Satt Bachan” (1895) by Mirza Ghulam Ahmad and his team of writers

Intro
Per Ahmadiyya sources, “Satt Bachan” translates as the “The True Word” (see HiddenTreasures). It was published by MGA and his team of writers in 1895, it is in urdu only. The exact publish date is unknown. In this book, MGA and his ghost writers wrote that Esa (as) lived an additional 87 years after the event of crucifixtion, that would make his age at death to be 120, since Esa (As) was 33 at the event of crucifixtion. Up to this point (September of 1895), MGA and his team hadn’t surmised that Esa (as) died in Kashmir, however, they did come up with the age of 120. This comes from the time-frame wherein MGA and his team were slowly developing the Yuz Asaf=Jesus in India theory. MGA also writes that the CHOLA of Guru Baba Nanak physically came down from heaven.

In 1875, Pandit Dyanand had written a wrote a book, entitled Satyarath Prakash, in which he declared that Guru Nanak was illiterate, who posed as a man of learning and it was out of sheer vanity and conceit that Baba Nanak was made a saint by ignorant people after his death. MGA seems to have been responding to that in this book. MGA sent a deputation to the custodian of the Chola Sahib in Dera Baba Nanak, the deputation reported that they had seen written on the Chola verses from the Holy Quran. MGA then decided to see the Chola of Baba Nanak Sahib himself. So, he went to Dera Baba Nanak on September 30, 1895. The custodians of the Chola did not know what was written on it. The custodians found it unusual that one should be so interested to see the Chola in original. The keeper, who was paid fourteen rupees by the people who accompanied MGA, allowed the writings on the Chola to be copied out. It openly declared that “Islam was the only true religion and Muhammad was the Messenger of God.”
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Satt Bachan, Roohany Khazaen, Vol. 10, P. 296; Satt Bachan, P. 172, footnote

“”””Jesus could not portray himself as a pious man because everyone knew that he was a gluttonous alcoholic… His claim to Godliness was a result of his bad habit of drinking Wine.”””
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Satt Bachan, inside title page, Ruhani Khaza’in, vol. 10, p.112, see also Hidden Treasures

“””As some papers run by Sikhs have spread this misconception that this book was written with some bad intention or to hurt the feelings, therefore it is pertinent to state that this book is written with all the good intentions and after thorough research. The basic aim of this
book is to highlight his great piety and spiritualism and he completely separated himself from Hindu Vedas. He found that the God presented by Islam sparkles with Majesty, Power, Holiness and is Omnipotent. And it is because of his great piety that he declared his belief in Islam. That is because we stated those cogent reasons and proves of this belief. This view was also supported by many British scholars. This is the reason that we have included in this book extracts from Dictionary of Islam page (583-591) by Reverend Hughe’s which clearly state that Guru Baba Nanak was converted to Islam. “”
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Satt Bachan, first edition, 1875, p. 29 footnote, Ruhani Khaza’in, vol. 10, p. 141 footnote] Via the 2018 online edition of Tadhkirah

“”Thirty years ago, I was given knowledge of his ((Bava Nanak)) circumstances in very clear visions…. In a state of vision, in those days I met him or had other experiences resembling a meeting. Since a long time has passed, the vision experienced originally has escaped my memory”””

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Satt Bachan, Iqrar, page 37, RK-10, page 157

“”Some people are astonished by the comment that this chola descended from the heavens and Allah wrote on it with his own hand, but looking at the immense powers of Allah, it is nothing astonishing at all, as nothing is beyond his abilities”.
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Satt Bachan, Endnote concerning page 164, pp. A-B, Ruhani Khaza’in, vol. 10, p. 301-302, see also Hidden Treasures

“”””This ointment is blessed one which is beneficially used on wounds and removal of sign of wounds. Physicians agree that this ointment was prepared by the disciples for the treatment of his wounds. When Hadrat ‘Isa was arrested by Jews and the Jews put him on the Cross with the intention of killing him and proceeded to stretch him on the Cross, God saved him from the evil designs of the Jews and he suffered only slight wounds on his body and because of this curious ointment he was cured and the signs of the wounds disappeared. This fact is even attested by the New Testament that when Jesus was delivered from the Cross, in reality he regained his life. He met his disciples and conveyed the news that he was alive. Disciples were
surprised how he did escape from the Cross and thought it might be that they were looking at his soul. Then Jesus showed his wounds which were caused when he was put on the Cross. Then the disciples came to believe that he was delivered from the Jews.

It is the simplicity of the Christians who believe that Jesus died on the Cross and got an entirely new life if it were so, God had the power of granting him a new life and could also totally cure his wounds, specially when it is said that the body that was elevated to heaven was the reflective one that he was seated on the right hand side of God and if it was so, how the wounds could exist on the reflective body. Jesus himself compared this to the event of Jonah.
Jonah did not die in the belly of the fish and had he died, then there was no point in making a comparison….

He lived in hiding for forty days in the settlement under Pilate during which the application of the said ointment cured him and the good natured disciples disseminated the news that he was elevated to the heaven, in fact it was very wise move that the thoughts of Jews were diverted and it was decided beforehand that at an appointed date Jesus would leave the settlement that was under the jurisdiction of Pilate. Disciples saw him off and Ahadith of Tabarani also prove
that Jesus lived another 87 years after this event and during this time he was constantly visiting one country after another and that is why he is known as a Messiah—a person on tour. “””””
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Was Noorudin the Ghost-writer of MGA?

This is a quick essay and referencing post that I wanted to create.  Here is the reference:

“””Many people used to say that his holiness, the Promised Messiah, did not know even Urdu and someone else wrote the books which were attributed to him. The others held even a worse opinion about his writing potentialities. They believed that Shaikh Nuruddin was the person who wrote the books for him.” (Al-Fadl, February 5, 1929; by Mirza Mahmood Ahmad Qadiani)””””

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After Mirza Ghulam Ahmad died, Noorudin wrote in Nuzul ul Masih that MGA was given good eye-sight, ir-regardless of his diabetic condition

Intro
As we all know, MGA was a raging diabetic patient. MGA told the world that his diabetes was so bad that he would urinate 100 times a day. We also know from medical journals that 99% of diabetic patients lose their eye sight. When MGA died in 1908, Noorudin took over and began covering up all the errors and omissions of MGA. He got Jesus in India published and Barahin-i-Ahmadiyya Vol. 5 published. In 1909, he published Nuzul ul Masih and in that book, he claimed that MGA got a revelation wherein his God told him that ir-regardless of MGA’s diabetic condition, his GOD would preserve his eyes and make them work perfectly. However, if we look at MGA’s picture, its obvious that MGA can’t even open his eyes and thus can’t see very well. MGA’s ghost writers wrote the books for MGA and read books/newspapers to MGA. MGA mentioned 2 additional organs that he asserted were the ear and brain.

MGA also wrote about this in Haqiqatul Wahy, see pages 458-459.
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On May 15th, 1908, Mirza Ghulam Ahmad was challenging the Muslims of British India

Intro
Just 13 days before MGA died, he was boasting about how he had outlived some of his opponents and was living a good life, there was no sign of any illness, nor was there any concern. In fact, the first few pages of Chashma-e-Ma‘rifat contain an announcement (see in the below) wherein MGA was boasting as such. Later on in the book, MGA discusses the prediction of Abdul Hakim of Patiala, the famous ex-qadiani.

MGA died during the early hours of May 26th, 1908, most likely at 1-2am. After MGA’s body was taken to Qadian, the Al-Badr published an edition of May 26th, 1908, and immediately fabricated some revelations which seem to indicate that MGA might die. These are a total fabrication (see in the below). This is proof that the Ahmadiyya ghost writers and editing team always fabricated revelations after-the-fact.
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Announcement of May 15th, 1908, via Chasma e Marifat

Chashma-e-Ma‘rifat, Ruhani Khaza’in, vol. 23, pp. 2-4, see also Essence of Islam Vol.3

“”””Ever since God has named me the Promised Messiah and Mahdi, those who call themselves Muslims and call me as a disbeliever, have been greatly agitated against me. I have proved my claim clearly on the basis of the Holy Qur’an and Ahadith, but they deliberately ignored what I said. Then God manifested many heavenly signs in my support but they derived no benefit from these either. Thereafter many of them came forward for Mubahalah and some of them, who claimed to be recipients of revelation, predicted that I shall be destroyed within a specific period during their very lives, but they were themselves destroyed while I lived. Alas, even then the Muslims did not reflect that if all my claims had been of my own making, my opponents would not have been defeated in each and every case. They have been condemned as false by the Holy Qur’an. The Ahadith describing the spiritual ascension of the Holy Prophetsa and the Hadith which predicts that the Promised Messiah would be one of the Muslims, proves that they are liars. The results of the Mubahalahs proclaim their falsehood. Then by what authority do they so daringly oppose and reject me, who has been sent by God, and has continued to call them to the truth for nearly twenty-six years? Have they not experienced the warning conveyed in the verse:

—Some of that which he threatens you with will surely befall you.’— Al-Mu’min, 40:29 [Publisher]

Where is Ghulam Dastgir who supplicated for my destruction in his book Faid-e-Rahmani, and prayed for the death of whichever of us was false? Where is Maulavi Charagh Din of Jammu who stood up for Mubahalah against me and predicted my death on the basis of a revelation he was supposed to have received? Where is Faqir Mirza who had a large following and who predicted my death with great enthusiasm. He even announced that God had informed him from His throne that I was an impostor and would die during his own lifetime in the following month of Ramadan. But when Ramadan came, it was he himself who died of the plague. Where is Sa‘d-ullah of Ludhiana who stood up for Mubahalah against me and predicted my death? He died of the plague in my lifetime. Where is Maulavi Mohy-ud-Din of Lahore who called me the Pharaoh and predicted my death in his lifetime and published several of his supposed revelations concerning me? He too passed away in my lifetime. Where is the accountant Babu Ilahi Bakhsh of Lahore, the author of ‘Asa-e- Musa, who described himself as Moses and called me Pharaoh and predicted my death by the plague in his own lifetime, and published several other prophecies about my ruin? He too died of plague within my lifetime, thus bearing witness that his book ‘Asa-e-Musa was false and
a bundle of impostures. All these people had hoped that I would become an illustration of the verse:

–‘If he be a liar, on him will be the sin of his lie.’—Al-Mu’min, 40:29 [Publisher]

But they themselves illustrated this verse by their ruin. By destroying them God also made me an illustration of the second part of the same verse:

–‘But if he is truthful, then some of that which he threatens you with will surely befall you.’—Al-Mu’min, 40:29 [Publisher]

Have not all these events fully established the design of God Almighty? Yet it was necessary for my opponents to have rejected me because of the Divine prediction published 26 years ago in Brahin-e-Ahmadiyyah:

A Warner came to the world and the world did not accept him, but God will accept him and will establish his truth with powerful assaults.

I am certain that God will not stop His signs till my truth is made manifest to the world. Today, 15th May 1908, it has occurred to me that there is another method by which a God fearing person may perchance emerge from the dangerous whirlpool of denial. It is as follows: Someone out of my opponents who deems me a disbeliever and a liar should obtain the attention of at least ten reputed clerics, or of at least ten well known leading personalities, and should come out against me in order to carry out a test of our truth or falsehood. We should select two persons who are critically ill and each of them should, by the drawing of lots, be allocated to each of us for prayer. Thereafter, the one whose patient recovers completely or lives longer than the other patient, will be considered true. All this is in the hand of Allah Almighty, and, relying on His promise, I predict that God will either bestow full health on the patient allocated to me or will grant him longer life than the other patient; and this will be the testimony of my truth. If this does not happen, it may be concluded that I am not from God. But it will be necessary that the person who stands up against me, and the ten Maulavis or leading personalities who support him, must announce in three leading papers that, in the case of my triumph, they will accept me and join my Jama‘at. I shall also be bound by similar conditions…. One benefit resulting from such a contest would be that God Almighty would bestow new life upon someone dangerously ill, who has lost all hope of life, and would thus manifest a sign of reviving the dead. Secondly, the contention between us will be judged peacefully and easily. Peace be on him who follows the right path. Announced by: Mirza Ghulam Ahmad Qadiani, The Promised Messiah. 15 May, 1908.””””
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MGA challenging Abdul Hakim of Patiala, the ex-qadiani

MIRZA AND DR ABDUL HAKIM KHAN PATIALVI.
BOOK CHASHMA E MARIFAT PAGE NO 336-337
MIRZA WRITES :-

“””SIMILARLY MANY ENEMIES AMONG MUSLIMS STOOD AGAINST ME AND WERE KILLED. NOW THERE APPEARED ONE LAST ENEMY KNOWN AS DR ABDUL HAKIM KHAN PATIALVI. HE IS A DOCTOR FROM PATIALA HE CLAIMS THAT I WOULD BE KILLED IN HIS LIFE UPTO 4TH AUGUST 1908, AND THIS WOULD BE A SIGN OF HIS TRUTH FULLNESS AND HE CLAIMS IT IS A REVELATION TO ME FROM ALLAH SWT. HE DECLARES ME AS KAZZAB, DAJJAL AND KAFIR. 
HE TOOK MY ALLEGIANCE AND REMAINED MY FOLLOWER FOR 20 YEARS.BUT WHEN I GAVE HIM AN ADVISE HE DEVIATED. THE ADVISE WAS GIVEN JUST FOR ALLAH,S SAKE WHICH WAS THAT HE WAS OF THE FAITH THAT ONE CAN GET DELIVERANCE IN THE WORLD HEREAFTER WITHOUT ACCEPTING HAZRAT MUHAMMAD S.A.W. I TOLD HIM THAT THIS BELIEF IS AGAINST ISLAM AND MAJORITY OF THE ELDERS OF ISLAM.BUT HE TURNED A DEAF EAR TO IT, FINALLY I REMOVED HIM FROM MY JAMMAT.THEN HE PROPHESIED THAT I WOULD BE KILLED BY 4TH AUGUST 1908 IN HIS LIFE TIME. BUT COUNTERING HIS PROPHESY, GOD HAS INFORMED ME THAT HE HIMSELF WOULD RECEIVE AZAB AND GOD WOULD KILL HIM AND WILL PROTECT ME FROM HIS EVIL.SO THIS IS THE CASE WHICH IS NOW IN THE COURT OF ALLAH FOR DECISION.”””

The scan

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Alleged revelations of MGA which were published in the May 26th, 1908 edition of the Al-Badr
See Tadhkirah

[al-Badr, vol. 7, no. 21, May 26, 1908, p. 7 and
al-Hakam, vol. 12, no. 35, May 30, 1908, p. 1]

(1) [Urdu] Tunnel (2) [Arabic] [It is time to march; again, it is time to march.]
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[Urdu] Be not afraid, O believers.

[al-Badr, vol. 7, no. 21, May 26, 1908, p. 7 and
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[al-Badr, vol. 7, no. 21, May 26, 1908, p. 7 and
al-Hakam, vol. 12, no. 35, May 30, 1908, p. 1]

[Arabic] I shall stand with My Messenger.
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Links and Related Essay’s

Chashma’-e-Ma‘rifat quotes and background information

Who is Dr. Abdul-Hakim Khan, the famous Ex-Ahmadi?


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The #Ahmadiyya approach to hadith is totally against common sense and the 4 schools of thought

Intro
#Muslims should never discuss #hadith with #Ahmadis. The reason is quite simple, #ahmadis are taught to follow the revelations of MGA first, then they approach hadith and the Quran. #Ahmadis are essentially working backwards. The #wahabi approach to hadith seems to be the same. It seems that MGA was also a #wahabi (called #ahlehadith in British India), and thus took this from them. Sir Syed was also a Muslims of a #ahlehadith background, however, by 1875, he turned into a Quranist, which is totally fine, we don’t care, we allow Muslims to be adventerous in their beliefs, by 1877, Sir Syed denied the concept of the Mahdi. Nevertheless, this is what the British wanted in India. The British wanted to break Muslims reliance on Hanafi Fiqh, which was used by the #mughalempire as well as the #ottomanempire. In Saudia Arabia, the British created #wahabism and had them do a Jihad against the last Muslim empire, the Ottomans. The Ottomans controlled the oil in Iraq (al-basra) and had to be eliminated, thus they were taken out systematically and a puppet government was installed in Turkey in roughly 1924.

In the below, we have posted the reference from the 1900-1902 era wherein MGA confirms to #Ahmadis (and the world) that his revelations are above any and all hadith and any hadith which don’t match MGA’s revelations should be immediately discarded. We have also posted a reference from 7 years earlier, wherein MGA admits that after the Quran, Bukhari is the most authentic book. We have also posted scans from the English-ROR, which also prove the same.

Furthermore, in terms of hadith, especially when it comes to the Mahdi. #ahmadis cherry pick only 2 hadith, since the other 20+ hadith prove MGA to be a liar. Those 2 hadith are the famous one wherein it is claimed that “No Mahdi, except Esa” (which has been listed by the scholars are a lie) and the shia hadith on the eclipses. These are some classic cases wherein #ahmadis cherry pick as they work backwards to prove that MGA was true. As we all know, initially, from 1880–1891, MGA never mentioned the Mahdi at all. Then, in 1891, as he made his claims of being a Messiah, he was silent on the concept of the Mahdi. In 1892, MGA began to write that all the hadith on the Mahdi were faulty. By 1894, after reading about the pending eclipses, he fraudulently authenticated a Shia hadith that wasn’t even fulfilled properly. After MGA died, in the BA-5 (ocotober-1908), MGA’s ghost writers again wrote that all hadith about the Mahdi were wrong.
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See RK: vol: 19, pg. 140, 1902-1902 era.  “””Ijaz e ahmadi”””

“the basis for our claim is not hadith but Quran and that wahi which comes to us. Yes, in support we also quote those hadith which are according to Quran and do not contradict my wahi.  As for the rest of the hadiths, i throw them away like waste paper..” 

The scan work
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In 1895, MGA wrote some different things on his formula of what Islam is
Arya Dharam, Ruhani Khaza’in, vol. 10, pp. 86-87

“Of the other books that are accepted by us the Sahih of Bukhari ranks as the first. All its Ahadith which are not opposed to the Holy Qur’an are in our view authoritative. Next comes Sahih Muslim. We accept its authority subject to the condition that it should not be opposed to the Holy Qur’an and Sahih Bukhari. Next to them are the compilations of Tirmidhi, Ibn-e-Majah, Muattah of Imam Malik, Nassa’i, Abu Da’ud and Dar Qutni, which we regard as authoritative so long as they are not opposed to the Holy Qur’an and Bukhari and Muslim. These are our religious books and these are the conditions under which we accept them….(…)”
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Khutbatay Mahmoud (page 457)

Maseeh maoud(Mirza qadyani) use too say that ahadees is a work of a juggler, and juggler brings out from the box whatever he wants

Scan 

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Scan from the ROR of May-1903, which also prove the same

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Links and Related Essay’s

https://ahmadiyyafactcheckblog.com/2017/01/25/in-ahmadiyya-islam-the-revelations-of-mgathe-quran/

Sir Syed was the first Muslim in India to ever say that all hadith on the Mahdi were weak…MGA copied

The Ahmadiyya fraud on Eclipses and the Mahdi

https://ahmadiyyafactcheckblog.com/2017/09/16/mirza-ghulam-ahmad-called-muhammad-saw-as-the-perfect-mahdi/

https://ahmadiyyafactcheckblog.com/2017/09/16/imam-suyuti-on-tawaffa/

https://ahmadiyyafactcheckblog.com/2017/09/11/initially-mga-was-downgrading-all-hadith-on-the-mahdi-1890-1891/

https://ahmadiyyafactcheckblog.com/2017/09/25/the-ahmadiyya-fraud-on-eclipses-and-the-mahdi/

https://ahmadiyyafactcheckblog.com/2017/09/09/some-hadith-that-prove-that-the-mahdi-and-esa-as-are-two-separate-people/

https://ahmadiyyafactcheckblog.com/2017/09/09/hadith-on-the-mahdi-scans-and-etc/

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