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Intro
In terms of 3:144, MGA and his ghost writers had always argued that the sahaba knew that Eisa (As) was dead. However, after MGA died, and via BA5 (Barahin-i-Ahmadiyya part-5), the Khalifa, Maulvi Noorudin invented the idea that the sahaba believed that Eisa (as) was alive and were corrected by Abu Bakr upon the death of MGA. This argument can be found in Nusratul-Haqq [‘Help of God’], which is a sub-section of BA-5.

This wasn’t the first time that MGA disrespected the sahaba of Muhammad (saw), MGA disliked the name Fatima and saw it as a sign of sadness and pain. MGA also disrespected Fatima’s (ra) children, Hassan and Hussain. MGA also disrespected Ali (ra). MGA even called the killing of Maulvi Abdul Latif as greater than that of Imam Hussain. 

MGA even called Abu Hurraira as stupid (ghabi). Omar Khan explains how Mirza Ghulam Ahmad disrespected Muhammad (saw), Noah (as), Yusuf (as) and Esa (as). Mirza Ghulam Ahmad accused Esa (as) of getting oil massages by adulterous women. Mirza Ghulam Ahmad even said that if the people of Noah (as) had been given the amount of signs that he (MGA) had been given, those people wouldn’t have died terribly.
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Intro
Mirza Ghulam Ahmad and Maulvi Noorudin created Ahmadiyya as their collective brainchild.  MGA would have the dreams and make the wild claims and Noorudin would defend MGA and build a team of writers, imams and language scholars. MGA knew Noorudin from the 1870’s, they both had correspondance with Sir Syed in this era also, they were both also members of the famous Ahl-e-Hadith sect of Northern India, this sect never numbered more than 100,000 in British India in the late 1890’s, thus, almost everyone knew each other.  Here are some names of the main ghost writing team, Maulvi Abdul Karim, Maulvi Mufti Muhammad Sadiq, Maulvi Sher Ali and Hakim Fazl Din of Bhera. Some other people who came independently, yet still joined MGA’s team was Maulvi Muhammad Ahsan Amrohi, who was also a member of the Ahl-e-Hadith sect, in fact, uptil his job with MGA, he worked for the founder of the Ahl-e-Hadith sect, Syed Nazeer Husain from Delhi and Siddiq Hasan Khan of Bhopal. Maulvi Muhammad Ali was another, however, he came via Khwaja Kamaluddin and the prominent Ahmadi’s of Lahore.
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Intro

I wanted to post a reference from the writings of Mahmud Ahmad in 1915 as he argued that MGA was in fact a prophet, however, without law.

The reference

“At last that event did take place. In the year 1900, Maulavi ‘Abdul Karim, the preacher of the Friday sermon, gave a sermon in which he, used the words Nabi (Prophet) and Rasul (Messenger) for the Mirza. This caused great irritation to Maulavi Sayyid Muhammad Ahsan Amrohawi. When Maulavi ‘Abdul Karim came to know of this, he gave another Friday sermon in which be addressed the Mirza, requesting him to contradict his belief, if he was wrong in considering him to be a prophet and Messenger of God. After the Friday prayers were over, Maulavi ‘Abdul Karim caught hold of the skirt of the Mirza’s apparel and requested him to correct him in his beliefs if they were erroneous. The Mirza turned around and said that he, too, held the same belief. Meanwhile, Maulavi Muhammad Ahsan had been greatly agitated by the sermon and in anger was pacing the floor of the mosque. On Maulavi ‘Abdul Karim’s return, he began to quarrel with him. When their voices rose very high, the Mirza came out of his house and recited the Qur’anic verse: “O ye who believe! Don’t raise your Voice above the voice of the Prophet.”

(This event is based on the report of a speech of Sayyid Sarwar Shah Qadiani at an annual conference held in Qadian, and published in al- Fadhl, Vol. X, No. 51, dated january.4,1923)

(See also Haqiqat al- Nubuwat, p 124.[published in 1915])

Conclusion
MGA had multiple ghost-writers.  In this case, Maulvi Amrohi (who was the first payed Ahmadi-mullah), he didn’t know that MGA had finally claimed prophethood and Maulvi Abdul Kareem was ordered to pronounce it.  They proceeded to argue, then MGA quoted the Quran and thus claimed prophethood openly for the first time (summer 1900). However, he remained silent for an additional 1 1/2 years or roughly 14+ months.

Later on, after “Correction of an Error” was published, Maulvi Amrohi wrote a rebuttal to an inquiring mind who accused MGA of claiming prophethood, however, Maulvi Amrohi very tactfully only denied independent prophethood, he never even mentioned the “The Ummati-Nabi”.  Fast forward to 1914, Maulvi Amrohi nominated Mahmud Ahmad as Khalifa and sided with him in his first year of his Khilafat.  He even read Mahmud Ahmad’s 2 books on the subject of prophethood, i.e. Qaul al Fasl and Haqiqatun Nubuwwat, however, in the summer of 1915, he seems to have had a change of heart and denounced MGA’s claim of prophethood and deposed Mahmud Ahmad as Khalifa.  He then sided with the Lahori-Ahmadis and died in 1919 in this state.

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Intro
Mirza Basheer ud Din Mahmud Ahmad never wrote anything in his life, he was given opium as an infant and had terrible vision. He failed his matriculation exam in 1905-1906 and thus proved that he didn’t know Urdu/English/Arabic. Nevertheless, the Mirza family and their band of brainwashed Ahmadi’s boasted about him and helped create his own newspaper, the Tashhiz al-Azhan. Qazi Muhammad Zahuruddin Akmal was the editor and thus wrote essay’s on behalf of Mirza Basheer ud Din Mahmud Ahmad. In 1914, when Mirza Basheer ud Din Mahmud Ahmad became the Khalifa, they immediately began to call him the Musleh Maud (and he remained silent). In those days, in addition to Qazi Muhammad Zahuruddin Akmal (Mahmud Ahmad raped his daughter on the roof of Masjid Mubarak), Maulvi Sarwar Shah was also a ghost writer, as well as Maulvi Sher Ali. In 1915, the Qadiani-Ahmadi’s published an english commentary of the Quran (and ascribed to the 2nd Khalifa, who didn’t know english and failed his matriculation exam)(it was only 2 chapters and discontinued), this was done to counteract the Lahori-Ahmadi’s. This commentary was created to counteract the Lahori-Ahmadi’s. Muhammad Ali and the Lahori-Ahmadi’s published their famous commentary in 1917 and from London, England, the Nation of Islam used this commentary to create their kufr.

Over the years, they began to prepare murrabi’s who would happily write books on behalf of the Khalifa. From 1915 to 1947, the team consisted of Malik Ghulam Farid, Jalal ud Din Shams, Mufti Muhammad Sadiq, Bashir Ahmad Rafiq, Zafrullah Khan, Shaikh Yacub Ali Irfani, Maulvi Sher Ali, Hafiz Roshan Ali, Abdur Rahim Nayyar, Ismail Halalpuri, Mirza Bashir Ahmad and Maulana Abul Ata aka Maulana Abul Ata Jalandhari. This culminated in 1947, Malik Ghulam Farid (1897–1977), was deputed the task of preparing various commentaries on the Quran, in urdu and english. His urdu commentaries were ascribed to the Khalifa, Mirza Basheer ud Din Mahmud Ahmad and appeared with only nine chapters along with an introduction in 1947, the Khalifa signed off on the introduction on 2-28-1947, thus it was published in late February from Qadian, British-India.

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Intro
MIrza Ghulam Ahmad was not capable of reading (since he was blind by age 40-50) and writing (since his right arm was broken), nor was he capable of leading prayers (salaat), he never led a Khutbah Juma or an Eid Khutbah (a few times, after the main Eid speech, MGA made comments, these were mostly unintelligible ramblings, which were edited and created into books). His main ghost writer and manager was Noorudin, who was a capable imam, Noorudin was a member of the Ahl-e-Hadith and his followers of his own before he met MGA. Another Ahl-e-hadith imam that MGA hired was Syed Muhammad Ahsan Amrohi, who moved to Qadian in 1891, he edited most of MGA’s books and newspapers, he was not a student of Noorudin, however, he knew MGA from MGA’s relationship with the Ahl-e-Hadith imam’s of Bhopal. Maulvi Abdul Karim was a student of Noorudin and he was at Ludhiana for the bait ceremony of 1889, he moved to Qadian in 1890-1891 and became the main imam at Masjid Mubarak and Masjid Aqsa. Mufti Muhammad Sadiq was another inside man, he worked in the letters department and became the editor of the Al-Badr in 1905, when the owner died of plague. Another inside worker was MIrza Khuda Bakhsh, another pupil of Noorudin. The final point is that all of these “insiders” lived together in MGA’s house, they were thus able to plan the mission of Ahmadiyya, while MGA did nothing all day.
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Intro
Per Ahmadiyya sources, “Satt Bachan” translates as the “The True Word” (see Hidden Treasures). It was published by MGA and his team of writers in 1895, it is in urdu only. Per Muhammad Ali in 1915, it was published in October of 1895. In this book, MGA and his ghost writers wrote that Esa (as) lived an additional 87 years after the event of crucifixtion, that would make his age at death to be 120, since Esa (As) was 33 at the event of crucifixtion. Up to this point (September of 1895), MGA and his team hadn’t surmised that Esa (as) died in Kashmir, however, they did come up with the age of 120. This comes from the time-frame wherein MGA and his team were slowly developing the Yuz Asaf=Jesus in India theory. MGA also writes that the CHOLA of Guru Baba Nanak physically came down from heaven.

In 1875, Pandit Dyanand had written a wrote a book, entitled Satyarath Prakash, in which he declared that Guru Nanak was illiterate, who posed as a man of learning and it was out of sheer vanity and conceit that Baba Nanak was made a saint by ignorant people after his death. MGA seems to have been responding to that in this book. MGA sent a deputation to the custodian of the Chola Sahib in Dera Baba Nanak, the deputation reported that they had seen written on the Chola verses from the Holy Quran. MGA then decided to see the Chola of Baba Nanak Sahib himself. So, he went to Dera Baba Nanak on September 30, 1895. The custodians of the Chola did not know what was written on it. The custodians found it unusual that one should be so interested to see the Chola in original. The keeper, who was paid fourteen rupees by the people who accompanied MGA, allowed the writings on the Chola to be copied out. It openly declared that “Islam was the only true religion and Muhammad was the Messenger of God.”

It covers pages 112 to 307 of Ruhani Khuzain, the book is 192 pages, MGA signs off 12-1-1895, on the last page.

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Intro
This is a quick essay and referencing post that I wanted to create. Here is the reference:

“””Many people used to say that his holiness, the Promised Messiah, did not know even Urdu and someone else wrote the books which were attributed to him. The others held even a worse opinion about his writing potentialities. They believed that Shaikh Nuruddin was the person who wrote the books for him.” (Al-Fadl, February 5, 1929; by Mirza Mahmood Ahmad Qadiani)””””
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Intro
We have found a new reference in terms of the famous insult that MGA gave to all Muslims who rejected him in 1893: “”dhurriyyatul baghaya””. It comes from the ROR of March-1935. In early 1935, K. L. Gauba proposed to put the Qadiani-Ahmadi’s on the stand in a case with the Punjab Assembly. The case would revolved around MGA’s insults to Muslims, specifically, the Zurrayatul Baghaya quote. The National League at Qadian responded in the ROR of March 1935 and explained that MGA didn’t mean children of prostitutes, instead they allege that MGA meant, “Children, followers and supporters”=Zurrayatul  and Baghaya meant “Slave girls, immoral women and the advance guard of an army”. They go to allege that this quote meant “followers of the vanguard of the party which was out to crush the Ahmadiyya Movement”, or as “low and ill mannered people like the children of bondwomen”.

In 1891, in Ludhiana, MGA had a written debate with Batalvi and Maulvi Saadulah and a few others. This was MGA and his teams second written debate of their careers, MGA never had any oral debates. In 1892-1893, he used the term “Zurrayatul Baghaya” (children of prostitutes) as he described in Arabic those who had rejected his claims of Messiah-ship (See A’ina-e-Kamalat-e-Islam). It should be remembered that there were barely 300 Ahmadi’s in those days. He even wrote out 1000 “lanaats” in 1894 as he was raging out of control in Nurul Haq, Nur ul Haq was an Arabic only book,  there seems to have also been an urdu translation given with the original book. Our Arabic ex-Ahmadi friends like Hani Tahir and Ikrima Najami have been going through MGA’s arabic books and giving us some quotes which have never been given to the world ever before. These quotes are vulgar, you have been warned. Some other publications are also quoted. Additional quotes from Nurul-Haq can be found here. MGA also called his opponents’ women as bitches in 1898 in Najmul Huda (in a poem). It seems that in 1897, MGA and his team called Sa’dullah as a son of prostitutes. MGA also discussed the insult “Zurrayatul Baghaya” in his book “Khutbah ilhamiya”. In terms of the Quran, the word Baghaya was used in the Quran twice, once in 19:20 and once in 19:28. In both cases, these are loose women or it could be used as prostitutes.

However, after Sa’dullah died in 1907, MGA refused to even mention that part of his poetry from 10 years earlier. Interestingly enough, Mirza Bashir Ahmad tells us that Muhammad Ali ( one of MGA’s lawyer’s and employees) told MGA not to mention how he had called Sa’dullah as the son of prostitutes, since Muhammad Ali feared legal recourse. This would be defamation, MGA had narrowly escaped a defamation case in 1904, Dard tells us it was Khwaja Kamaluddin and not Muhammad Ali however. However, by 1935, Mirza Bashir Ahmad said: The lawyer was Khwajah Kamal-ud-Din. In al-Hakam, volume 38, number 7, February 28, 1935, pages 3–4, narrating the eye-witness accounts of Maulavi Muhammad Ibrahim Baqapuri (see the 2009 online edition of Tadhkirah). We have recently found an old urdu book by Ahmadiyya writers which specifically discusses this issue. In 1907, MGA and his team of ghost writers issued a clarification on the word Ibn Bagha or “Zarrayatul baghaya”. They were scared of a legal case against MGA via defamation. Thus, MGA’s team issued a correction via Al-Hakam Volume 11, page 7 (February 1907). I found it on the old thecult.info message boards,  See page 3, about half way down the page. The MTA team also gave the same explanation, i.e., that MGA only meant “an arrogant person” when he used these words.

This quote was mentioned in 1935 in the famous “Khosla judgement” and again by Justice Coldstream as the Qadiani-Ahmadi’s wanted this word expunged from the records, which the judge refused to do.

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Intro
The Khalifa had just came back from his tour of the world (to London and back). His travel dates were July 12th, 1924 to November 24th, 1924 (see Tarikh e Ahmadiyya)(See also ROR of 2008). As soon as he returned to Qadian, he got all the reports of the “goings-on” while he was away. He received reports that his wife #2, Amtul Hai (age-24) was writing letters to various newspapers and telling them how bad her husband was. When the Khalifa returned from his tour of Europe in 1924, the daughter of Noorudin died mysteriously (his wife). The front page of Al-fazal 20 Dec 1924, it says “final moments of Syeda Amtul Hai (also spelled Amtul Haye).

Nevertheless, the Jalsa was held on the 26th-28th (See ROR of March-1925). Ahmadiyya sources claim that the 2nd Khalifa gave a 4 hour speech on Bahaism (which special focus on his claim to divinity) on the first day and a 6 hour speech on Naimatullah Khan and his state killing in Afghanistan. The 2nd Khalifa’s full team of ghost writers where there: Qasim Ali, Mufti Muhammad Sadiq, Abdur Rahim Nayyar, Abdur Rahman Misri, Maulavi Syed Sarwar Shah, Zafrullah Khan, Fateh Muhammad Sial, Ghulam Rasool Rajecki and Hafiz Raushan Ali and the ROR reports that they gave lectures.

Ahmadiyya sources claim that 15,000 to 16,000 attendees were recorded and that 600 people converted to Ahmadiyya on the spot, which is a lie.

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