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The grandson of Mirza Aziz Ahmad has died


We are tracking MGA’s family in these types of posts.  In this specific case, one of MGA’s great grandsons have died.  Ironically, his name was also Mirza Ghulam Ahmad.  “””Mirza Ghulam Ahmad Sahib, Nazir-e-Ala, Sadr Anjuman Ahmadiyya Pakistan, and Amir Muqami Rabwah passed away today.”””

The Mirza family keeps Jamaat management in the hands of the Mirza family only
As is obvious to tell, the Mirza family keeps the power in their hands only.  Mirza Ghulam Ahmad (not MGA) was the son of Mirza Aziz Ahmad, who was the oldest grandson of MGA.  He was the younger brother of Mirza Khursheed Ahmad Sahib who previously served as Nazr-e-Aala Pakistan and passed away on January 17th, 2018, in Rabwah.  Mirza Ghulam Ahmad Sahib was also the brother-in-law of our beloved Hazur and Respected Sahibzada Mirza Maghfoor Ahmad Sahib Amir USA. He was also the father of Mirza Naseer Ehsan Ahmad who is currently serving as Secretary Finance USA, and previously served as Mohtamim Tajneed and Mua’vin Sadr for MKA USA.

His real name wasn’t Mirza Ghulam Ahmad
Mirza Masroor Ahmad tells us in his Friday Sermon of 2-9-18 that his name was Mirza Saeed Ahmad and per the request of his mother, the 2nd Khalifa agreed to call him as Mirza Ghulam Ahmad.

Who is Mirza Aziz Ahmad? The eldest grandson of MGA, the son of Mirza Sultan Ahmad

Mirza Aziz Ahmad, was the eldest grandson of MGA, his younger brother was Mirza Rashid Ahmad,  Mirza Rashid Ahmad (born in 1903) was married to Amtul Salam Sahiba, They had a daughter that was eventually married Mirza Tahir Ahmad.  Her name was Asifa Begum (married to mirza tahir ahmad 1957–1992), they were married on the 5th of December, before Mirza Tahir Ahmad left for the UK, she was married to Mirza Tahir Ahmad for 35 years.  They had 4 daughters, Shaukat Jehan, Faiza, Yasmin Rehman Mona, Atiatul Mujib Tooba and one daughter who died in infancy.  Asifa Begum died of pancreatic cancer on April 3rd,1992. 

The 2 sons of Mirza Sultan Ahmad
Mirza Sultan Ahmad seems to have never been home, it seems that Mirza Aziz Ahmad and his yougner brother were raised in the same house wherein MGA and his entire team and families were living, or on an opposite side, its a really a mystery.  Nevertheless, by 1909, Mirza Sultan Ahmad was an ‘Extra-Assistant-Commissioner”, this is a person who makes sure that land-taxes are properly collected.  He worked extensively for the British government from 1883 to roughly 1930.  Mirza Aziz Ahmad’s birthdate is unknown, as is his mother, one of Mirza Sultan Ahmad’s wives was the daughter of MGA’s first cousin, Mirza Imam ud Din.  The Date of this marriage is also unknown.

His bait with MGA?
He seems to have taken bait with MGA in 1906, however, the reason is not given, he lived right next door to MGA and his family and must have known them very well, his father, Mirza Sultan Ahmad was never home in Qadian, he was always working and thus on the road.

His wife and children
We have found un-verified sources that claim that his wife was Sharifa Begum and his daughter was Naseera Begum.

Some references

” In a dream that I saw on October 20, 1899, I saw a boy whose name was ‘Aziz and his father’s name began with Sultan. That boy was brought before me and was seated before me. I noticed that he was slim of body and had a fair complexion. My interpretation of the dream is that ‘Aziz means one who is honoured; and Sultan, who in the dream was understood to be the boy’s father, means a conclusive reason or argument such as is self-evident and carries its appeal to the hearts on account of its shining brightness. Sultan derives its meaning from authority and is not applied to every kind of argument but only to such a one as takes possession of the hearts on account of its acceptability and brightness and completely rules over gentle and reasonable minds. Thus the interpretation of the dream is that a Sign which will take possession of people’s hearts will be shown and its result, or, in other words, its child, will be that I will become dear to the hearts of people and this has been shown allegorically in my dream in the shape of ‘Aziz.” (Appendix, Tiryaqull Qulub, No,4 Page 2 footnote, Ruhani Khazain Volume 15, Pages 505,506 and Announcement of October 22, 1899, Majum’ah Ishtiharat, Volume 3, Pages 172-173)


Hazrat Mirza Bashir Ahmad stated:


Hadrat Sheikh Ya‘qub ‘Ali ‘Irfani ra writes: “The said dream has been published with a symbolic interpretation. He said clearly that he had seen ‘Aziz Ahmad son of Mirza Sultan Ahmad. (al-Hakam, March 10, 1906 page 1)


This is how the dream was fulfilled. At the end of February 1906, about six years after the dream, Hadrat Mirza ‘Aziz Ahmad, son of Hadrat Mirza Sultan Ahmad took the pledge of allegiance at the hand of the Promised Messiahas and joined the Ahmadiyyah Jama‘at. The fact that Mirza ‘Aziz Ahmad is shown in the dream in relationship to Mirza Sultan Ahmad also shows that it was destined that Mirza Sultan Ahmad would join the Jama‘at and thus become a spiritual, as well as physical, son. Alhamdulillah, he took the bai‘at at the hand of his younger brother Hadrat Khalifatul Masih IIra and joined the Jama‘at of the Promised Messiahas ” (Tadhkirah, Page 445)

February 1914
He seems to have written an english translation in this edition of the ROR.

His son died recently, –Feb–2018

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The Wahabi’s of Saudi Arabia and their connection to Ahmadiyya

As we all know, factually, the British government funded Arabs to revolt against the Ottoman Empire.  This was a strategic move, this wasn’t knew, the Brits did this in India also, they put the Sikhs in power before they took over the Punjab.

In 1932, Saudi Arabia was created
After defeating the Ottoman Empire in WW-1, the Brits created a puppet state known as Saudi Arabia.

The sons of Ibn Saud
Abdulaziz ibn Abdul Rahman ibn Faisal ibn Turki ibn Abdullah ibn Muhammad Al Saud was made a ruler by the British government.  He seems to have sent his son to the Ahmadiyya mosque in 1935 to get training or something.

King Faisal visits an Ahmadiyya mosque
1935: The Crown Prince of Saudi Arabia (far left) on a visit to London’s Fazl mosque (Ahmadiyya Muslim Mosque), the first purpose-built mosque in the capital.

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Who is Mirza Wasim Ahmad? The 1/2 Arab son of Mirza Basheer-uddin Mahmud Ahmad?

Mirza Wasim Ahmad, also spelled as Mirza Waseem Ahmad (Mian Waseem) was one of 23 sons of Mirza Basheer ud Din Mahmud Ahmad.  His mother was from Saudi Arabia, her name was Azizah Begum also called Umm Wassim (mother of wassim).  The Khalifa Married her in 1926, she was the daughter of Seth Abu Bakr Yousaf of Jeddah, Saudi Arabia.  According to tareekh ahmadiyyat, vol 4 page 554, it goes “Hazrat Khalifa tul Masih 5th Nikah was 1st Feb 1926, also published in the Alfazal of 5th Feb 1926.  The Khalifa claims that Seth Abu Bakr of Jeddah was a business man who had written to the Khalifa in 1914 in terms of marriage for his daughter, the Khalifa agreed 10 years later, and was finally married in 1926, the details and logistics are unknown (See Fazl e Omar, online english edition).  Was this arab even an Ahmadi?

His children ?
The only daughter that we have heard of is Amtul Rauf.  His brother, Mirza Naeem Ahmad is also missing from the scene.

He was told and forced to stay in Qadian, India by his father.  It is unclear whether his mother stayed. He was thus amongst the dervishes of Qadian.  The Khalifa is said to have left 313 males behind in Qadian as he left for Pakistan.  Mirza Waeem Ahmad was thus the only son and member of the Mirza family to remain in India after the partition.

Mirza Wasim Ahmad married his aunty, Amtul Qudoos, she was the daughter of Dr. Mir Muhammad Ismail.  She was Mirza Waseem Ahmad’s father’s (the Khalifa) maternal first cousin.  It is reported by Ahmadiyya sources that Mirza Waseem Ahmad came to Rabwah to get married, he then hurriedly returned to Qadian, India.  This is very strange since in those days travelling back and forth from Pak to India was nearly impossible, Zafrullah Khan might have stepped in and made it happen.  Ahmadiyya sources report that in these days food at Qadian was scarce.

Amma Jan (the wife of MGA) also known as Nusrat jehan Begum died in Rabwah.  Mirza Wasim Ahmad was not allowed to travel to Pakistan for the funeral.

His father, the Khalifa, Mirza Basheer ud Din Mahmud Ahmad dies.  He is not able to travel to Pakistan for the funeral but gathers all Ahmadi’s at Qadian and makes speeches.  All communications with Rabwah was broken, as a result of war between India and Pakistan.

When the situation between India and Pakistan worsened again, certain elements tried to drive out the Ahmadi population of Qadian, albeit with cunning. Mian Waseem gathered everyone in Masjid Mubarak and addressed them in an ardently anguished tone saying that Qadian was their permanent centre and that they would most certainly not leave it.  He said we have one night to pray extremely fervently and supplicate ardently to God. Not even a single child should leave Qadian of his/her own accord. I shall not leave either; officials will have to drag me out of here. Each one of you should say we do not want to leave Qadian.  That night entire Qadian supplicated and beseeched to God, in each nook and cranny earnest prayers were made. The anguished supplication of the dervishes gained acceptance with Allah. The next day, they met up with officials and had discussions. Later the officials came to inspect Qadian and then cancelled the plan to remove people.

He was made as totally in-charge of Qadian.  In Urdu he was the Nazir Aala & Ameer Jamaat Ahmadiyya Qadian until his death.  The first Ameer in Qadian was the late Hazrat Maulvi Abdur Rahman.

1984, when the Khalifa died at Rabwah
Mian Waseem’s daughter Amatul Rauf says that her father’s ardent devotion to Khilafat was such that although he was unable to go to the funeral of Khalifa tul Masih III,  he wrote a letter the day after his passing away and gave it to his wife and daughter to read. In the letter he had signed his pledge of allegiance (baiat) to the Khalifa tul Masih IV not knowing who he was going to be. He explained that his baiat was not be based on his knowledge of the individual; rather his baiat was for the Khalifa of the Promised Messiah.

December 26th – December 28th 2003
He gave the inaugural address at the 2003 Jalsa Qadian.

He died in 2007
The 5th Khalifa did a tribute Friday Sermon about Mirza Wasim Ahmad.

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Migration from Qadian

Can Ahmadi women vote for the Khalifa?

Dear readers, as we all know, Ahmadi women are not allowed to vote in the Ahmadiyya Jamaat, they are only allowed to vote for women in their “women’s only auxillory” aka Lajna.  However, in the mid-1950’s, the Ahmadiyya Khalifa reserved one seat for women in terms of electing the next Khalifa.  The Khalifa carefully picked from his wives and installed the Laja President.  Thus, we are not sure how this played out in 1965, 1982 or 2003, since the voting is all private.

The quote from Zafrullah Khan, see pages 333-334
“”””Having in mind the crisis with which the Movement had been confronted on the demise of Khalifatul Masih I, he had already established an Electoral College for the election of a Khalifa, when the sacred office should become vacant by the Khalifa’s death. The college was composed of the following, subject to the essential qualification that every elector must be
a member of the Movement and should be a supporter of the Khilafat:

(I) The surviving sons of the Promised Messiah.
(2) The President of the Sadar Anjuman Ahmadiyya.
(3) All Secretaries of the Sadar Anjuman.
(4) The Director General and the Directors of Tahrik Jadeed.
(5) The President of WaqfJadeed.
(6) The Principal of the Talimul Islam College.
(7) The Headmaster of the Talimul Islam High School.
(8) The President of the Theological Seminary.
(9) The President of Ansarullah.
(10) The President of Khuddamul Ahmadiyya.
(II) Representative of Lajna Imaullah.
(12) Missionaries who had worked abroad for a minimum period of three years.
(13) Missionaries who had worked within Pakistan or India for a minimum period of five years.
(14) Amirs of circles in Pakistan.
(15) Members of the Movement who had joined the Movement in the lifetime of the Founder of the Movement. The total membership of the college is approximately one hundred and fifty.”””””

Who from Lajna voted in 1965, 1982 and 2003?
This is unknown, the rules may have been amended also.  For example, all the sahaba and sons of MGA are dead.  Thus, we are unsure who they voted for, or if they ever even voted in 1965, 1982 and 2003.  In August of 1958, a wife of the Khalifa became President of Lajna, her name was Maryam Sadiqah.  She took over after a wife of the Khalifa had died.  The Mirza family kept this job in the family for many years.  It is unclear who became the next President of Lajna.

Did this rule change?  
Subsequent Khalifa’s may have changed this.  It is unclear.

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Just before Mirza Ghulam Ahmad arrived at Lahore in 1908

As everyone knows, MGA left Qadian for Lahore in early May of 1908.  We have found some data which corroborates this fact.

The data

It is reported in Badr, 30th April 1908 (p. 6), that an Eid Milad-un-Nabi function was held at Ahmadiyya Buildings, Lahore, on 14th April. (This was close to the end of the life of Mirza Ghulam Ahmad, and a few days before he arrived in Lahore from Qadian.)

The function is not called Eid Milad-un-Nabi in this report but Bara Wafat.This was the term used by Muslims in India in those days, meaning “death on the 12th”, referring to the death of the Holy Prophet Muhammad on this day, 12th Rabi-ul-awwal.

Below I translate the report, which is entitled Life of the Holy Prophet:

“A respected friend reports from Lahore that, on the previous day, a Tuesday, on the occasion of Bara Wafat, and for the benefit of the residents of Lahore, a grandly organised lecture was held at Ahmadiyya Buildings, where houses of our Khwaja [Kamal-ud-Din] sahib are located. The ground was very large and was decked with a marque and other necessities. It had been widely advertised in the city.

The poem in praise of the Holy Prophet written by Huzoor [presumably meaning the Promised Messiah] was read out by brothers Abdul Aziz, son of Mian Chiragh Din, and Ghulam Muhammad. Maulvi Sadr-ud-Din gave an explanation of the Surah Fatiha with great zeal and pure sincerity, and went over the events of the life of the Messenger of God, may peace and the blessing of Allah be upon him. Then brother Dr. Mirza Yaqub Baig spoke on the life of the Holy Prophet in a fine speech. The audience included Hindus, Muslims and members of the Brahmo Samaj. All the leading men of Lahore who could come were in attendance. The whole gathering listened patiently and attentively to the highly effective speeches of these young men, who were preaching using this new technique and method, and they went away expressing much praise.

This meeting was also reported in other newspapers and was generally much liked. Hence the newspaper Watan wrote:

“Just as there was great regret that there were no arrangements in Lahore for holding this great occasion of remembrance, there was equal pleasure that on 14th April, corresponding to 12th Rabi-ul-awwal 1326 A.H., on behalf of the Anjuman-i Ahmadiyya Lahore a magnificent meeting was organised by Khwaja Kamal-ud-Din, lawyer, High Court. Capable speakers delighted the audience by telling them about the life of the Holy Prophet and his excellent and praise-worthy qualities. It is hoped that in future many people in Lahore will organise events for such a sacred remembrance.”

The newspaper Sada-i-Hind expressed a similar opinion.

Comment by Editor Badr: It is indeed essential that the general public should be fully informed about the life of the Holy Prophet. We cannot complain about non-Muslims when most Muslims themselves are utterly unaware of the life of their beloved master. When such ignorant people realise how much we owe to the Holy Prophet, they will themselves want to recite the Darood spontaneously. This is in fact the philosophy of Darood. But I do not consider it right to fix one particular day forever, like Bara Wafat, for this purpose.”

This idea was then taken up by other Muslims and led to the development of the Eid Milad-un-Nabi function. Note the report in the Muslim newspaper Watan quoted above which says:

“Just as there was great regret that there were no arrangements in Lahore for holding this great occasion of remembrance, there was equal pleasure that on 14th April, corresponding to 12th Rabi-ul-awwal 1326 A.H., on behalf of the Anjuman-i Ahmadiyya Lahore a magnificent meeting was organised by Khwaja Kamal-ud-Din, lawyer, High Court.”

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Who is Mirza Ghulam Muhi-ud-Din? Mirza Ghulam Ahmad’s paternal uncle (died in 1866)

Mirza Ghulam Muhi-ud-Din or spelled as Mirza Ghulam Muhyuddin (died in 1866) was the paternal uncle of MGA, as well as the father of Imam ud Din, Nizam ud din, Kalam ud Din and their 2 sisters (see Punjab Chiefs) Mirza Ghulam Qadir brother married one of their sisters, Hurmat Bibi was her name.

He enlisted in military service with the Sikhs in 1839
After Ranjit Singh died, Mirza Ghulam Muhi-ud-Din and his brothers, father and uncles were finally allowed to move back to Qadian (see 1865 edition).  MGA was born soon thereafter.

They served in the Sikh military for 9 years, until 1848
The Mirza family served the Sikhs as much as possible and to the end.  When the Sikhs lost the Second Anglo-Sikh War, the Mirza family seems to have been immediately hired by the British government as military men.

1848, the siege of Multan
Mirza Ghulam Muhi-ud-Din served for the British military during this siege.  His brother (MGA’s father also), they seem to have suddenly left the Sikh military and joined the British.

The 1857 Sepoy mutiny
Mirza Ghulam Muhi-ud-Din’s brother, Mirza Ghulam Murtaza (MGA’s father) was honored by the British family for killing the sepoy’s who had mutinied.  Mirza Imam ud Din also served as a Risaldar in Hodson’s horse (cited from ‘The Sepoy Rebellion of 1857-59 by AH Amin’)(original citation:  Pages-41 & 42-Chiefs and Families of Note in the Punjab-Volume Two, by Sir Lepel Griffin and revised by W.L Conran and H.D Craik, Civil and Military Gazette Press, Lahore-1910) during the Siege of Delhi.  The British government thus allowed Mirza Imam ud Din to break the law with impunity.

The Mirza brothers are given a 700 rupee pension for the rest of their life and propriety rights over 7 neighboring villages
Since they were so loyal to the British, they earned a 700 rupee a year pension plus propriety rights over 7 villages.  As well as tax collector status.  No other Muslim family in the Punjab was favored as such.  This includes all of MGA’s paternal uncles, Ghulam Muhammad, Ghulam Mustafa and Ghulam Haider.  By 1883, all of these uncles and cousins of MGA were issueless and had died.  Ghulam Haider’s had also died by 1883 and his only son Ghulam Husain was officially missing.

1864-1865—MGA and Mirza Imam ud Din go pick up their families pension
This pension of 700 rupees was supposed to be for the whole family to split up,It seems that the settlement court case of 1865 divided up the money of the Mirza family.  However, MGA and his cousin-brother Mirza Imam ud Din never come home with the money until they spend it all frivolously.  MGA was punished by being sent to Sialkot and never being allowed to see his mother ever again.

Mirza Ghulam Muhi-ud-Din dies.  The same year, MGA’s mother dies and he returns to Qadian after the funeral.  His grandon also died, the son of Mirza Ghulam Qadir.

His children?
He had 6 children in total, they are as follows:

1—Mirza Nizam ud Din, the eldest son, was still alive in 1909, had one son died in 1907, Dil Muhammad. The other son is Gul Muhammad, who was raised by Mirza Imam ud Din.  He had a daughter who died at age 25 roughly during the Muhammadi Begum saga, she had an infant child which was probably raised by the extended family (See Dard also).
2—Mirza Imam ud Din had one daughter, she was married to Mirza Sultan Ahmad in roughly the early 1880’s.  They had a 2 sons.  Mirza Aziz Ahmad and Mirza Rashid Ahmad both became Ahmadi.
3—Mirza Kamal ud Din, was still alive in 1909, no male children.
4—Hurmat Bibi (1830 to 1927), she married her first cousin, MGA’s brother, Mirza Ghulam Qadir, they had 2 children, one daughter died as an infant, the son died in 1868.  Per Ahmadiyya sources, she converted to Ahmadiyya in 1916.
5—-Umar-un-Nissa, she was married to Mirza Ahmad Beg (See Mujadid e Azim, english abridged version).  The daughter of Umar-un-Nissa and Mirza Ahmad Beg was the famous Muhammadi Begum, she had 2 sisters, Inayat Begum and Mahmooda Begum.  They also had a brother named Muhammad Beg.  Ahmadiyya sources claim that they call converted to Ahmadiyya.

6—UNKNOWN NAME was married to Mirza Akbar Baig, son of Mirza A‘zam Baig (see Dard)

The grandchildren of Mirza Ghulam Muhi-ud-Din ?
Muhammadi Begum, her brother Muhammad Beg and Gul Muhammad who was the son of Mirza Nizam ud Din.

The great grand children of Mirza Ghulam Muhi-ud-Din?
We have only found 2, Mirza Aziz Ahmad and Mirza Rashid Ahmad.  The Al-Fazl of 1919 reports that only one girl was left alive in this family by 1919, and even she converted to Ahmadiyya.

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In June-July of 1908, Mirza Mahmud Ahmad wrote that the ‘Promised Son’ would not be actual son of Hazrat Mirza Ghulam Ahmad

The majority of prophecies of MGA failed.  As a result of this, after MGA died, Ahmadi’s scrambled to clean up the mess.  Noorudin tackled the failure of the Muhammadi Begum prophecy directly, but there are many other cases, in fact, we are all late to the party, so to speak.  This entire story and references is taken from the Lahori-Ahmadi website.  This is basically the son of MGA saying that he isn’t the Musleh Maud, however, after he became Khalifa, almost every edition of the ROR was claiming that he was actually the Musleh Maud.  Years later, the Lahori-Ahmadi’s would opine that MGA’s son that died was the Musleh Maud.  Finally, Hani Tahir recently made a video about this entire story herein (at the 4:49 mark).  Hani Tahir quotes a speech of the Khalifa, Mirza Basheer-uddin mahmud Ahmad from the annual jalsa of 1939 wherein the Khalifa argues that he cannot deny the Khilafat like Hassan did, or else he would die and cause his whole family to be killed, like Hasan.  This speech was given on the 25 year anniversary of his Khilafat.  Its Urdu edition was first published by Al-Shirkatul Islamiyyah in 1961 and has now been included in Anwarul ‘Ulum Vol. 15.  The first english edition was published in 2009.

Why so many contradictions?
The sons of MGA contradict each other all the time, this is nothing new.  In fact, Mirza Basheer-uddin Mahmud Ahmad would always publicly say that a son of a Khalifa should not be a Khalifa, however, behind the scenes he was prepping Mirza Nasir Ahmad to be the 3rd Khalifa.  In fact, after 1956 or so, the Khalifa, Mirza Basheer-uddin Mahmud Ahmad stopped making public appearances and never led Salaat, Mirza Nasir Ahmad did all of that, and thus acted like a Khalifa as early as 1956 or 1957.  One more point, Mirza Nasir Ahmad was the President of Majlis Khuddam ul Ahmadiyya since its inception in 1939, and thus all the youth of Ahmadiyya knew who Mirza Nasir Ahmad, the Khalifa seems to have taken the president-ship for about 5-6 years (officially) upto 1954, he was also the principal of the Talim ul Islam Highschool at Qadian and the new college in 1944 to 1965.  Other then this, he didn’t seem to write any essays in his daddy’s magazines and newspapers, nor are any of his speeches recorded or written out from the 1950’s.  Interestingly enough, Mirza Bashir Ahmad opined that the Ahmadiyya Khilafat would end (in the 1950’s he wrote about it).

The Data
Shortly after the death of Mirza Ghulam Ahmad in May 1908, Mirza Bashir-ud-Din Mahmud Ahmad wrote a lengthy article in the magazine of which he was editor, Tashhiz-ul-Azhan (v. 3, no. 6–7, June–July 1908), answering allegations by the opponents of the Ahmadiyya Movement that some of the prophecies of the Promised Messiah had not been fulfilled in his lifetime. One objection related to the non-fulfilment of the prophecy of the birth of a noble and glorious son who would bring a great transformation in the world (the Muslih Mau‘ood). In answering this objection, Mirza Mahmud Ahmad wrote that the word ‘son’ in this prophecy could apply to a later descendant of Hazrat Mirza Ghulam Ahmad from some future generation or it could even apply to any true follower who is not physically related to him in any way.

After Mirza Mahmud Ahmad became khalifa in 1914, his followers began to put forward the notion that he was the Muslih Mau‘ood, till in 1944 Mirza Mahmud Ahmad himself laid claimed to this.Starting from within that period till now, members of the Qadiani Movement have been raising the same objection against the Lahore Ahmadiyya Movement as the opponents of the Ahmadiyya Movement raised against Ahmadis in 1908, saying: if you believe that the Muslih Mau‘ood has not yet come then it means that the Promised Messiah’s prophecy about a great son was untrue. Our answer is just the same as the answer that Mirza Mahmud Ahmad gave to the opponents of the Ahmadis so emphatically, in full detail, in 1908 as quoted below.

In this reply Mirza Mahmud Ahmad does not even mention the possibility that one of the three sons living at that time, including himself, could in future become the Muslih Mau‘ood. However, his followers later argued that a part of the prophecy, made in 1886, was that the Muslih Mau‘ood would be born within nine years, so he had to be born by 1895. But Mirza Mahmud Ahmad makes no mention of this in his 1908 article!

Extracts from article by Mirza Mahmud Ahmad

Note: Click here to see the extracts below from the original Urdu magazine, presented as scanned images.


This point should also be considered that even according to the use of language the word ‘son’ can also be applied to a descendant from some future generation. Accordingly, it is used in this way frequently in Arabic. Thus, many tribes are named after a forerunner and they are called his sons.

— p. 297-298

Considering that people of the world call one man as the son of another who passed away several centuries earlier, and thus Umar ibn Abdul Aziz and Harun Rashid are known as the sons of Umayya and Abbas respectively, why cannot God the Most High call a boy from among the future descendants of the Promised Messiah as being his son? Is God not allowed to do what people can do? When worldly people can consider a man to be related to one who passed away long before, even though he does not deserve it, can God not do the same, Who knows well who deserves to be related to whom? Today those known as Sayyid, despite being embroiled in thousands of kinds of evils and sins, … are considered deservant of being called Al-i Muhammad, but when God the Most High has, for some purpose, referred to a boy from among the future descendants of the Promised Messiah as being his son, this is regarded as unlawful.

… Today, not hundreds but thousands of preachers call out loudly in their speeches ‘O sons of Adam, refrain from doing such and such acts’ and ‘do such and such acts’, but no one asks them: ‘Why are you addressing us by this title when Adam was not our father?’ So what is the problem if a boy from among the future descendants of the Promised Messiah is called his son?

His revelation, kafá háza, proves clearly that the revelation about son refers to a boy from the future descendants, and the revelation ‘your descendants will have fame through your name’ further supports that someone from future descendants can also be called the son of the Promised Messiah. God the Most High knows well who deserves to be known as his son. So what harm is there if a prophecy is given about a glorious boy who would bring a transformation in the world and he is called as the son of Hazrat sahib? The Holy Prophet too said that those among the Persians who accept Islam are included in the Bani Fatima. So do the Persians themselves become the sons of Fatima? One should also ponder over the fact that in the Quran and Hadith this figure of speech is used frequently. So what harm is there if God the Most High spoke to the Promised Messiah in this way? For example, in the Holy Quran the Jews are again and again called the Children of Israel. Although Israel had died some 2500 years previously, God the Most High still called the Jews as the Children of Israel. If this had not been a form of expression used by the Arabs and in the Divine scriptures, the Jews of that time who raised objections on most things would have cried out immediately that they were not the Children of Israel and would have given the names of their fathers. Again, in the Holy Quran it is said about Abraham “We gave him Isaac and Jacob”, even though Jacob was not the son of Abraham but of Isaac. This shows that such expressions occur in the word of God, and there is no scope for objection in this.

— p. 298-300

By son can be meant grandson or great grandson or some other descendant. There is no cause for objection in this.

— p. 300

Ponder that it is stated clearly in the Quran:

“And strive hard for Allah with due striving. He has chosen you and has not laid upon you any hardship in religion — the faith of your father Abraham. He named you Muslims.” (22:78)

Now does this verse mean that the name of the father of every Muslim is Abraham? Most certainly not. It means that he who follows the example of Abraham, walks in the path taught by him and accepts Islam, is in the sight of God like the son of Abraham. Everyone knows that there are hundreds of nations among Muslims who are not descended from Abraham nor is their nation connected with the family of Abraham in any way. Thus when God declares every such person as son of Abraham who is a Muslim and strives in the way of God, giving the word ‘son’ so broad a meaning that it is not necessary to be from among the Bani Ismail or the Bani Israel, then where is the difficulty if the same God today declares someone from the future descendants of the Promised Messiah as his son? To sum up, not only people of Iran, Afghanistan, India, China and Japan but even Europe and America can be called sons of Abraham, and God the Most High calls them sons of Abraham in the Holy Quran. So what is the problem if a man is declared as the son of the Promised Messiah?

We also find such figures of speech when we look in Hadith. For example, on the night of the mi‘raj, when the Holy Prophet asked Gabriel about Abraham, he replied to him: This is your righteous father. He said the same about Adam. So when this is proved from the Quran and Hadith, then why is the objection raised against the Promised Messiah that he was given the promise of a son which was not fulfilled. The promises of God never remain unfulfilled. They always come to pass, and the same will happen in this case. These revelations did not mean that the Promised Messiah himself would have a son but that in the future such a man would be born from his progeny who, in the sight of God, would be as if he were his son, and would be considered his fifth son, besides his four sons. Just as Jesus is known as the son of David, so will he be called the Promised Messiah’s son.

This view of mine is supported by the revelation of the Promised Messiah that I quoted above, kafá háza, which meant that he would not have any further male issue. Accordingly, two girls were born after this, and no boy. The Promised Messiah himself also believed this because he too applied a revelation to his grandson which gave news of a son. Otherwise, if he thought that it would be his son, why should he have applied it to his grandson? In that case, he would have thought that he would have a son in the future to fulfil the revelation. So it is evidently clear that those revelations were about a boy from later descendants, whether it be a grandson, great grandson, or later still.

— p. 301-303

Our Holy Prophet had given the prophecy of the railway as a form of transport which has been fulfilled today. Should the people of the twelve centuries in the middle have given up Islam and turned to unbelief because the prophecy of the new form of transport was not fulfilled? As this has been happening to all the prophets, that they made prophecies about future times, then what does it matter if the Promised Messiah also gave some news of the future and foretold that among his descendants would be born a boy possessing such great awe that it would be as if God had descended from heaven to help him? This will further prove his truth and people of that future time will see this prophecy fulfilled and derive pleasure from it. People of the present time should ponder over the promises that are for them … As I have written, this prophecy of a son is about a boy from his descendants who would be a man of great glory, being accompanied by Divine succour. I have also proved that it is not only in the revelation of the Promised Messiah that such metaphorical expressions occur, but they are also found in the words of the earlier prophets and in the Quran and Hadith. A person is referred to as son, but a later descendant is meant.

— p. 305

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The first Bait form in Ahmadiyya included an oath of loyalty to the British Government (1889 to 1947)

Its no secret, MGA and his family enjoyed British support, since MGA’s father, brother and uncles helped them put down the great mutiny of 1857.  In fact, after MGA died, the British government funded and built a huge building for Ahmadiyya in Qadian and for free!!!!  In today’s money it would be half a million US dollars.  At the time, this was the biggest building in Qadian, nowadays it is home to the Sikh College.  Ahmadi’s abandoned this college as they left in 1947, it was re-established at Qadian in March of 1948 by the Sikhs.  Nevertheless, MGA began accepting Bait’s in March of 1889, however, his own wife didn’t accept nor did any of his children.  There is no archived Bait form in Ahmadiyya history, the first form exists from later on in 1948 when they moved to Rabwah.  In fact, in 1948, Dard in his famous book about the life of MGA denied that this 4th condition ever existed in a different format.  Furthermore, the first Bait form is totally tampered with by the Mirza family and thus totally missing.

On January 12th, 1889, MGA published an announcement with the 10 conditions of Bait
This announcement is totally missing.  However, 8-9 years later he admitted that loyalty to the British was the 4th condition (see the scan in the below).  We are unsure when it was taken out and deleted.  Dard tells us that this was the same day that MGA’s son, Mirza Basheer-uddin Mahmud Ahmad was born (see Dard, pages 201-208).

1948, Dard writes that the 4th condition is 
“””Fourthly, that he shall in no way harm God’s creatures in general and Muslims in particular under the influence of his passions— neither with his hands, nor with his tongue, nor by any other means.””””

Dard seems to quote the announcement of January 1889
This is very odd.  Dard totally ignores what MGA wrote in Kitab ul Barriyya and seems to quote the announcement of Jan 1889.  This is a total lie by Dard, he knew that this wasn’t the first list of conditions, however, he was most likely pressured to cover this up, since the headquarters of Ahmadiyya had just moved to the semi-independent-puppet-state called Pakistan.

Dr. Basharat Ahmad in Mujadid-e-Azim skips the entire topic of any Bait form
Interestingly enough, the Lahori-Ahmadi’s don’t ever mention any Bait Form at all.

In 1897, MGA published conditions for bait form in Kitab ul Barriya

In this book, MGA goes into detail about when he was born (1839 or 1840) and the services that his family rendered to the British Government, especially in 1857.  We have archived many of the court statements that were recorded in that book herein.

Quotes from Kitab ul Barriyah
“”””It has been proven from my continuous seventeen year long speeches that I am faithful and sincere to the English Empire from the core of my heart and soul. I am the son of a father who was also a friend to this Government. My faith is to obey this Government and love the people; These are the conditions set for my devotees and followers who take the oath of allegiance to me. I have stressed this clause under the fourth item of my pamphlet Shuroo-al-Baiat (oath of faith) which has been distributed among my devotees and followers.””””
(Kitab-ul-Barriah, Roohany Khazaen, Vol. 13, P. 10; Kitab-ul-Barriha, P. 9, Supplement)

The scans

The Lahori-Ahmadi’s have published an abridged english translation of Kitab ul Barriya, but left out the bait form
In an interesting development, the Lahori-Ahmadi’s, led by Zahid Aziz have published an abridged english translation of this book, however, they left out the bait form.  This isn’t the first time they have done this, they did the same with Khutbah Ilhamiya and Braheen-e-Ahmadiyya.

The flattery towards the British government last all of MGA’s life, and in fact, it was Ahmadiyya policy until they moved to Pakistan in 1947
Another example is that of MGA’s book, Roohani Khazyian 15- page 114 – Chapter Sitara Qaisera, which translates into english as: “The Star of Victoria” and is a 16 page pamphlet published in 1899.  In this book, MGA says:


The scan work

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