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MGA never led Salaat in his entire life!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Intro
For the past 2 years, my team of writers/researchers and I have continuously told Ahmadis and Non-Ahmadis that MGA was incapable of leading Salaat.  MGA spoke with a terrible stutter/stammer, he could never properly memorize any chapters of the Quran, he was always high on opium, his Arabic tajweed was terrible-he had a Punjabee accent as he spoke in Arabic.  Thus, ever since MGA attended his father’s Masjid Aqsa, there was a hired Imam who led the prayers.  Further, in 1884, when MGA had Masjid Mubarak built, MGA hired an Imam.  After MGA made his claims in 1891, Abdul Karim, Maulvi Ahsan, Nooruddin, Mufti Muhammad Sadiq or any other Muslim would lead the prayers, the same was to be said about the Masjid Aqsa, these were the two only masjids in Qadian.  In the below, I have posted “new-information” on this topic, per 12-9-17.  My team has located the Malfuzat of 1903 wherein an excuse was given by Ahmadiyya leadership as to why MGA never led salaat, they went so far as to argue that the Messiah wasn’t supposed to lead Salaat per hadith. However, they casually forget that MGA also claimed to be the Mahdi, and the Mahdi was supposed to lead Salaat, hence, MGA has failed the most basic criteria of the Mahdi, the leading of Salaat.  In fact, while MGA would perform Salaat, his fanatical followers were known to approach MGA (during salaat) and stroke his body sexually.

Further, we have argued with Ahmadis on this topic endlessly, the hard-core Ahmadi never admitted that MGA failed to be an Imam even once in his life, they would always deflect our allegations, and in typical brainwashed fashion.  However, with this reference, the story is now closed and confirmed.  MGA never led Salaat in his entire life.  This particular incident was also quoted in the official Ahmadi newspaper, the Badr.

Malfuzat from 1903
It should be noted, this volume of Malfuzat was Published in Rabwah, 1961, in Urdu, covering the period from November 1901 to October 14, 1902 (see page xl).

Malfoozat 21-oct-1903 . Vol. 3 by Mirza Ghulam Ahamd Qadyani (also reported in Al-badar ) says

“Regarding leading in prayers , one guy question that why hazrat do not lead the prayers ? Answered that it is written in hadees that Maseeh that has to come will pray behind others “

The scans

Another reference that proves that MGA never led Salaat

(Malfoozat, Volume 2, Page 211-212)

“”Look, we also take advantage of this leniency as it has been almost two months that we have been combining the prayers. This is because of the reason of my sickness, and because of the writing of the commentary of Surah Fatiha. In the combining of these prayers, the hadith وَتُجْمَعُ لَهُ الصَّلاةُ is being fulfilled which means that the prayers will be combined for the sake of The Promised Messiahas. From this we also infer that at the time of The Promised Messiahas, he will not lead the prayers, but it will be someone else. This Imam will combine the prayers for the sake of The Promised Messiahas, and this is what is happening today. The days we cannot come due to increased sickness, the prayers are combined during these days and we infer from the words of this hadith that it was through love that The Holy Prophetsaw said that ‘it will happen for his sake’. It should be that we look upon the prophecies of The Holy Prophetsaw with great respect and importance and should not be careless of them, otherwise it is will be of great sin that we look down upon the prophecies of The Holy Prophetsaw. God Almighty created the reason by which the prayers were being combined for so long, otherwise this would only be for two days and it would not be a sign. We respect every world and letter of The Holy Prophetsaw. “”

qarchives.com/misc/Seeratul_Mahdi_1.pdf
pdf page 20 of 296
Narration no. 19

” My mother narrated to me that mgaq got first attack of dizziness and hysteria few days after the death of Bashir 1 (we had an elder brother who died in 1888). While sleeping he got choked and then condition woresned but that attack was light. Then after some time (few days) he went out saying that I am not feeling well today. Mother said after some time sheikh Hamid Ali ( he was an old sincere servent of mgaq, he is dead now) knocked at the door and asked for a pitcher of hot water. Mother said, I knew that mgaq’s condition is worsened, so I asked a maid to ask him (sh hamid) about mgaq’s condition. Sh Hamid Ali said its bad. I went inside the mosque and saw mgaq lying. I went near him he said- I m not feeling well. I was praying and saw something black raised in front of me and went up to sky. Then I screamed and fell down and became like fainted. Mother says that after that he started getting these attacks on REGULAR BASIS. This humble one asked what was attack like, she said that his hands and feet got cold, body nerves got shrunk specially neck’s and then dizziness started. In that condition, he was unable to support his body. In the beginning, these attacks / seizures were svere but later on there was no such severity and he became used to that.

Humble one asked, did he ever get any problem with his head? Mother said, before he used to get nominal headache attacks. Humble one asked, did he use to lead the prayers, mother said yes, but due to attacks he stopped. Humble one states that was before the claim of being Massiah. ”

Mirza Ghulam Ahmad never led Salaat!!!!!!!

Intro
We all know that MGA never did any public speeches.  We also know that he only had 5-debates in his entire life and they were all written debates, and Noorudin was always close by as well as Abdul Kareem and the rest of the team.  Officially, as of 1891, Maulvi Abdul Kareem, Amrohi and Noorudin were the imams of the mosque at Qadian.  They led all the prayers, they did all the friday sermons and wrote all of the books.  Mufti Sadiq also helped.  As did Muhammad Ali later on and many many others.  Before 1891, MGA had other people lead the salaat, the father of Jalal-uddin-Shams comes to mind.

Nonetheless, MGA couldn’t memorize the quran and was mostly high on opium, so he could never lead prayers.  That’s what my research indicates.

The Quote
SEERATUL MAHDI PART-III PAGE 111
“””Stated to me by Dr. Mir Muhammad Ismail that once Due to some reasons Molvi Abdul Karim could not lead the prayers, Molvi Nooruddin was also not present, so Hazrat Sahab ( MGAQ) asked Hakeem Fazluddin to lead the prayer. Hakeem Fazluddin excused to offer the services by saying how can i lead the prayer when huzur know that i have been suffering from PILES and can,t maintain my ablution (WAZU) due to gaseous emissions all the time. Huzur asked hakeem Fazluddin, are your prayers valid despite the problem? He said yes they are valid. Then lead the prayer , our prayer will also be valid said hazrat sahab”””

The scan work
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Another quote
qarchives.com/misc/Seeratul_Mahdi_1.pdf
pdf page 20 of 296
Narration no. 19

” My mother narrated to me that mgaq got first attack of dizziness and hysteria few days after the death of Bashir 1 (we had an elder brother who died in 1888). While sleeping he got choked and then condition woresned but that attack was light. Then after some time (few days) he went out saying that I am not feeling well today. Mother said after some time sheikh Hamid Ali ( he was an old sincere servent of mgaq, he is dead now) knocked at the door and asked for a pitcher of hot water. Mother said, I knew that mgaq’s condition is worsened, so I asked a maid to ask him (sh hamid) about mgaq’s condition. Sh Hamid Ali said its bad. I went inside the mosque and saw mgaq lying. I went near him he said- I m not feeling well. I was praying and saw something black raised in front of me and went up to sky. Then I screamed and fell down and became like fainted. Mother says that after that he started getting these attacks on REGULAR BASIS. This humble one asked what was attack like, she said that his hands and feet got cold, body nerves got shrunk specially neck’s and then dizziness started. In that condition, he was unable to support his body. In the beginning, these attacks / seizures were svere but later on there was no such severity and he became used to that.

Humble one asked, did he ever get any problem with his head? Mother said, before he used to get nominal headache attacks. Humble one asked, did he use to lead the prayers, mother said yes, but due to attacks he stopped. Humble one states that was before the claim of being Massiah. “

Conclusions
MGA was not any type of Imam.  He hired Noorudin and his friends to write and lead prayers for him and to give speeches on this behalf.  Check my other essays on MGA and his lack of leading salaat here: https://ahmadiyyafactcheckblog.wordpress.com/2017/03/03/mirza-ghulam-ahmad-got-stroked-during-salaat/

 

Nusrat Jehan Begum claims that MGA only led Salaat before 4 November 1888, never after

Intro
Ahmadi’s are very stubborn people.  This is their biggest malfunction.  We have posted data on this blog for years indicating that MGA never led salaat for any congregation.  Ahmadi’s refused to believe it.  It was too much for them, they then began to argue that MGA did in-fact lead some salaat.  However, after some additional digging, we have uncovered that MGA never led salaat at least after Nov. 4th, 1888.  The testimony in the below proves that.  Further, MGA barely had any followers to lead salaat for before this date.  We suspect that he still never led salaat, and even if he did, it was in-front of small children or gullible peers who never tried to correct MGA when he made mistakes.

The quote

qarchives.com/misc/Seeratul_Mahdi_1.pdf
pdf page 20 of 296
Narration no. 19

”My mother narrated to me that mgaq got first attack of dizziness and hysteria few days after the death of Bashir 1 (we had an elder brother who died in 1888). While sleeping he got choked and then condition woresned but that attack was light. Then after some time (few days) he went out saying that I am not feeling well today. Mother said after some time sheikh Hamid Ali ( he was an old sincere servent of mgaq, he is dead now) knocked at the door and asked for a pitcher of hot water. Mother said, I knew that mgaq’s condition is worsened, so I asked a maid to ask him (sh hamid) about mgaq’s condition. Sh Hamid Ali said its bad. I went inside the mosque and saw mgaq lying. I went near him he said- I m not feeling well. I was praying and saw something black raised in front of me and went up to sky. Then I screamed and fell down and became like fainted. Mother says that after that he started getting these attacks on REGULAR BASIS. This humble one asked what was attack like, she said that his hands and feet got cold, body nerves got shrunk specially neck’s and then dizziness started. In that condition, he was unable to support his body. In the beginning, these attacks / seizures were svere but later on there was no such severity and he became used to that.

Humble one asked, did he ever get any problem with his head? Mother said, before he used to get nominal headache attacks. Humble one asked, did he use to lead the prayers, mother said yes, but due to attacks he stopped. Humble one states that was before the claim of being Massiah. ”

 

Ahmadi teachers at the Talim ul Islam High School were corrupt, they would pass Mirza Basheer-uddin Mahmud Ahmad, even when he failed

Intro
Ahmadiyya is a total fraud.  MGA and his family were all dummies and idiots who had no academic ability at all.  MGA’s precious “promised-son” aka Musleh Maud was a bad child, he never did anything good in his whole life, he lived the life of the son of a prophet, and indulged in women, men, drugs and everything Haraam.  In this specific reference, we have found Ahmadi-Mullahs admitting that they falsified records and passed Mirza Basheer-uddin Mahmud Ahmad even when he failed in school.  He was a student at the newly built Talim ul Islam School at Qadian, which was shut down by 1904 and never officially re-started until 1947, in Lahore.

The story
Head Master Talimul Islam School Qadian says:

“Hazrat Masih e Maud has never been student of a teacher. Similarly, Hazrat Masleh e maud (Mirza Mahmood) was not a pupil of any teacher. No doubt he was educated in the school. I have taught him when I was a head master of the school and Molvi Shair Ali was also a teacher there. He (MBMA) was studying in school at that time. He used to fail in each class exams still we promote him to the next class just because of the reason he was dear son of Hazrat Masih e Maoud. He took the exams of middle I went with him but he got failed then he sat in the entrance test again he failed.”

The scans

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Ahmadi’s are totally brainwashed by their mullahs, to the point that they never even double check sources

Intro
Per MGA, the quran uses harsh words towards the stupid.  So why do Ahmadi’s cry on social media when we call them stupid?  It’s very ironic.  Nonetheless, Ahmadi’s classically don’t even acknowledge our counter-arguments on a variety of issues.  The problem here is that Ahmadi’s have been taught to be stubborn and never open minded.  Its a desi-type problem, since they are raised in a world where critical thinking is never used.  We have already responded to this one-liner here: https://ahmadiyyafactcheckblog.com/2018/03/25/ahmadis-are-academically-dishonest-and-on-purpose/

I recently came across yet another brainwashed-idiot of an Ahmadi from Rabwah.  He didn’t know about Sir Syed and how Sir Syed invented the argument that Esa (As) was dead and never returning.  He won’t admit to anything…he tried to disagree later on, however, he forget that even Ahmadiyya literature tells us that Sir Syed influenced Noorudin and Abdul Karim.  Nonetheless, he goes on to present some other references in terms of the end of prophethood.  He quotes from B.A. Rafiq’s book on Ahmadiyya, which can be found here: https://www.alislam.org/library/book/truth-about-ahmadiyyat/finality-of-prophethood/.  However, he doesn’t know that BA Rafiq took this from Mirza Basheer-uddin Mahmud Ahmad and his line of argumentation after the split.

The quote

Hazrat Imam Muhammad Tahir has stated in his book, Majmaul Bihar:

“””The saying of Hazrat Ayesha that Muslims should call the Holy Prophet, peace and blessings of Allah be on him, Khataman Nabiyyeen, but should not say that there would be no prophet after him, had reference to the advent of the Promised Messiah. The direction given by Hazrat Ayesha is not in contradiction with the hadees: ‘There will be no prophet after me’; for the meaning of the Holy Prophet was that there would be no prophet after him who would abrogate his law.”””

But Ahmadi’s purposely overlook the context
Who is Muhammad Tahir and what is this book Majmaul Bihar?  Why have’t Ahmadi’s went back and researched all of this?  The answer…stupidity.  What were the full beliefs of Muhammad Tahir?  What did he write in terms of 33:40?  4:69?  4:157–159?

Will Ahmadi’s ever answer these questions?
Before we proceed, we need answers to these questions.

We have responded in the past here
https://ahmadiyyafactcheckblog.com/2017/01/03/ahmadis-lie-about-the-aisha-hadith-in-terms-of-the-end-of-prophets/

In 1907, Ahmadi’s were proud to be called Mirzai

Intro
It’s very true, lots of Muslims from the Indian sub-continent call Ahmadi’s as Mirzai’s.  Nowadays, Ahmadi’s hate being called Qadiani or Mirzai and cry persecution whenever someone calls them as such.  However, back in the early days of Ahmadiyya, Ahmadi’s never had a problem with word Mirzai, in fact, we have a scan from the al-Badr Qadian, 7th January 1907 during life time of Mirza Qadiani, wherein an Ahmadi proudly calls himself a Mirzai.

Summary and brief translation of this scan and reference
A follower of Muhammad a muslim was called as Mohammadan by britishers.

See the red highlighted area of this scan, a Qadiani poet says “”Hum Hain Pakke Mirzai”” (we are hardened Mirzai).

This poem was read over by Mir Qasim in Jalsa salana Qadian and published in the al-badar .

The scan

Other related essays
https://ahmadiyyafactcheckblog.com/2016/08/10/wonder-why-we-call-them-qadiani/

https://ahmadiyyafactcheckblog.com/2018/01/29/qadiani-ahmadis-vs-lahori-ahmadis-sectarianism-within-ahmadiyya-2018-version/

A young Mirza Ghulam Ahmad stole his daddy’s pension money and was punished by never being able to see his mother again



Intro
We have written about this story before.  However, we have found new information which seems to open up this story a bit further.  The new info is from the ROR of 1922 wherein MGA’s mother was described.  This essay was written by an Ahmadi named Ghulam Mohammad Ahmadi, and published on the 5th of May 1922.  This essay doesn’t mention MGA’s stealing of his families pension, which led to MGA getting severely punished by never being able to see him mother alive ever again, as well as being forced to work in Sialkot for a meager salary. MGA was punished severely, and rightly so, per Islam he should have gotten his right hand chopped off, since he stole upwards of 100,000 dollars in today’s money and was on the run for up to 1 year.

Ahmadi spin doctors try to blame MGA’s cousin for squandering the money
You will find Ahmadi trolls all over social media running around and blaming Imam ud Din (MGA’s cousin aka brother) for spending all of the money, however, that argument collapses since MGA was punished severely.  Why would MGA’s father punish him (MGA) if it was actually Imam ud Din who was the culprit?  Ahmadi’s run from this question and rightly so, since if they ever accept the facts from this story, Ahmadiyya is dead.

Facts from this essay

1–The writer compares the mother of Muhammad (saw) with the mother of MGA (nauzobillah), we have written about this topic, in this era, Ahmadis were fanatical about equating the entire life of Muhammad (Saw) with the life of MGA.

2–In MGA’s youth, he was retired, he never did any work, he was considered a useless appendage.  And MGA’s mother allowed it, she allowed her son to be a lazy good for nothing human.  MGA’s mother protected him from this father.

3–MGA was nicknamed Mullah in his youth.  Since all he did was cry about Islam and its state of affairs in British-India.

4–The author totally omits the pension story.  By 1922, the pension story had never been written about, it was later, with the publishing of Seeratul-Mahdi, that’s when the pension story was revealed.

5–Miran Baksh was sent to Sialkot to bring MGA home, he was a servant in the Mirza household.  MGA’s mother had already died, however, he wasn’t supposed to tell MGA.  This was part of MGA’s punishment after he stole the family money, i.e. to never see his mother ever again. And MGA’s father made sure of it.

6–MGA was on opium from an early age, since he was oblivious to his surroundings and most likely high on opium.  An incident is given from MGA’s youth from roughly 1858, wherein MGA’s young son, Mirza Sultan Ahmad had fallen in the immediate vicinity of MGA and was screaming for help, however, MGA must have been high and thus didn’t hear or see anything, MGA’s mother then ran over and saved the child from what could have been an awful death.

Mirza Ghulam Ahmad liked his opium sprinkled into his Lassi


Intro

In this specific instance of MGA taking opium, MGA and his team developed Tiryaq-e-Ilahi 1898).  This was the super-opium medicine that MGA and his team developed and sold as a cure for bubonic plague, and they did this in typical overconfident-villager-style.  A few years later, the British govt. was forced to ban this medicine altogether.  MGA even wrote his silly book, “Noah’s Ark in this era, MGA and team were really selling religion, in the name of “freedom-of-religion”, and with a team of writers, speakers and rogues.  Further, Ahmadiyya leadership seems to have ordered an “edit” in this case, in the below, I will show how the 2004 Tadhkirah differs from the 2009 Tadhkirah.  They seem to have added Maulvi Abdul Karim’s name.  One more thing, this was recorded from the register of Register Riwayat-e-Sahabah, vol. 9, p. 20, how could this have been wrong?  And what error was noticed in 2009?  In reality, there was no error…its a forced edit-job by Masroor and his goons.

The quote from the 2004 english edition of Tadhkirah
See page–918

Translation: Mian Abdul Aziz of Lahore relates: On one occasion when the Promised Messiah was compounding the medicine Taryaq Ilahi, he said to Hazrat Maulvi Nur-ud-Din: It has been revealed to me that this medicine produces heat and dryness. I therefore intend to prescribe that it should be taken with sour milk. (Register of Ravayat Sahaba, Vol IX, p. 20).

The quote from the 2009 english edition of Tadhkirah
See page—1034

“”Miyan ‘Abdul-‘Aziz of Lahore (known as Mughal) relates: On one occasion when the Promised Messiahas was in the process of preparing the medicine Tiryaq-e-Ilahi, I was sitting in the pharmacy of Hadrat Khalifatul Masih Ira while Hadrat Maulavi ‘Abdul-Karim was also there. The Promised Messiahas came with a big staff and said to Maulavi Sahib: It has been revealed to me that this medicine causes heat and dryness. I therefore intend to prescribe that it should be taken with lassi.”” (Register Riwayat-e-Sahabah, vol. 9, p. 20).  

Mirza Ghulam Ahmad was never a well recognized Scholar of Islam

Intro
You will see Ahmadis running around boasting that their precious MGA was some type of “well-known” islamic scholar in British-India.  However, this is a lie.  The evidence comes from Upal’s (2017) newest work on Ahmadiyya.  Upal quotes Batalvi’s magazine of 1884, as Batalvi defended MGA to the Muslims of India.  The Muslims of India were accusing MGA of claiming prophethood, denying the miracles of Esa (As) and many other things.  MGA had just published Braheen-e-Ahmadiyya vol. 4 and the book was total garbage, as well as the 3 volumes that came before it.  Muslims of India were sooo upset they even tore up this book and sent it back to Qadian in that condition and they demanded a refund.  In the quotes below, it is proven that by 1884 MGA was terrible at Urdu, Arabic and English.

Batalvi gave us the background on MGA, per Upal’s translations and interpretations
Quotes from Upal (2017)

—-He also sees Ahmad as more rural, less educated, less sophisticated, and less successful than himself.

—He sees Ahmad as “a Punjabi who has never had the opportunity” to live in the cosmopolitan cultural centers of Hindustan

—“who hasn’t had the occasion to read Urdu literature” and therefore is not able to write
“refined Urdu vernacular” (Batalavi, 1884: 346). 

—Batalavi’s perceptions of Ahmad as he sees Ahmad as someone who is so overcome with
religious fervor and zeal that “he’s unable to hold back” from including his unrelated
revelations in the Braheen (thereby lengthening it and “increasing publication
costs”),

—and someone who doesn’t understand that the “current civilization” demands
refraining from crudely attacking one’s enemies (Batalavi, 1884: 346).

—Batalavi touts his personal knowledge of Ahmad’s beliefs beyond the words
written in Braheen to defend Ahmad. Answering the accusation that some of Ahmad’s
English revelations are grammatically incorrect, Batalavi says, “When I met the
author who visited the city of Batala, where I am now, I asked him, ‘when you receive
revelations in English, are you shown English alphabets or Persian alphabets?’ He
responded that he is shown English sentences written in Farsi script. That’s when
I became sure of my suggestion that the mistake lies in the author’s perception…
and not the divine revelation” (Batalavi, 1884: 291). Ahmad’s ignorance of English
and his miracle of English revelations will attract English speaking Christians and
Hindus to Islam argues Batalavi.

—Over and over again, Batalavi insists throughout his review that Mirza Ghulam
Ahmad had not made any prophetic claims (pages 175; 191; 260; 268; 269; 273; 275;
278; 279). Muslim leaders who insist that he has, are mistaken argues Batalavi. Mirza
Ghulam Ahmad is a Muslim and not a kafir, argues Batalavi.

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