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MGA never led Salaat in his entire life!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Intro
For the past 2 years, my team of writers/researchers and I have continuously told Ahmadis and Non-Ahmadis that MGA was incapable of leading Salaat.  MGA spoke with a terrible stutter/stammer, he could never properly memorize any chapters of the Quran, he was always high on opium, his Arabic tajweed was terrible-he had a Punjabee accent as he spoke in Arabic.  Thus, ever since MGA attended his father’s Masjid Aqsa, there was a hired Imam who led the prayers.  Further, in 1884, when MGA had Masjid Mubarak built, MGA hired an Imam.  After MGA made his claims in 1891, Abdul Karim, Maulvi Ahsan, Nooruddin, Mufti Muhammad Sadiq or any other Muslim would lead the prayers, the same was to be said about the Masjid Aqsa, these were the two only masjids in Qadian.  In the below, I have posted “new-information” on this topic, per 12-9-17.  My team has located the Malfuzat of 1903 wherein an excuse was given by Ahmadiyya leadership as to why MGA never led salaat, they went so far as to argue that the Messiah wasn’t supposed to lead Salaat per hadith. However, they casually forget that MGA also claimed to be the Mahdi, and the Mahdi was supposed to lead Salaat, hence, MGA has failed the most basic criteria of the Mahdi, the leading of Salaat.  In fact, while MGA would perform Salaat, his fanatical followers were known to approach MGA (during salaat) and stroke his body sexually.

Further, we have argued with Ahmadis on this topic endlessly, the hard-core Ahmadi never admitted that MGA failed to be an Imam even once in his life, they would always deflect our allegations, and in typical brainwashed fashion.  However, with this reference, the story is now closed and confirmed.  MGA never led Salaat in his entire life.  This particular incident was also quoted in the official Ahmadi newspaper, the Badr.

Malfuzat from 1903
It should be noted, this volume of Malfuzat was Published in Rabwah, 1961, in Urdu, covering the period from November 1901 to October 14, 1902 (see page xl).

Malfoozat 21-oct-1903 . Vol. 3 by Mirza Ghulam Ahamd Qadyani (also reported in Al-badar ) says

“Regarding leading in prayers , one guy question that why hazrat do not lead the prayers ? Answered that it is written in hadees that Maseeh that has to come will pray behind others “

The scans

Another reference that proves that MGA never led Salaat

(Malfoozat, Volume 2, Page 211-212)

“”Look, we also take advantage of this leniency as it has been almost two months that we have been combining the prayers. This is because of the reason of my sickness, and because of the writing of the commentary of Surah Fatiha. In the combining of these prayers, the hadith وَتُجْمَعُ لَهُ الصَّلاةُ is being fulfilled which means that the prayers will be combined for the sake of The Promised Messiahas. From this we also infer that at the time of The Promised Messiahas, he will not lead the prayers, but it will be someone else. This Imam will combine the prayers for the sake of The Promised Messiahas, and this is what is happening today. The days we cannot come due to increased sickness, the prayers are combined during these days and we infer from the words of this hadith that it was through love that The Holy Prophetsaw said that ‘it will happen for his sake’. It should be that we look upon the prophecies of The Holy Prophetsaw with great respect and importance and should not be careless of them, otherwise it is will be of great sin that we look down upon the prophecies of The Holy Prophetsaw. God Almighty created the reason by which the prayers were being combined for so long, otherwise this would only be for two days and it would not be a sign. We respect every world and letter of The Holy Prophetsaw. “”

qarchives.com/misc/Seeratul_Mahdi_1.pdf
pdf page 20 of 296
Narration no. 19

” My mother narrated to me that mgaq got first attack of dizziness and hysteria few days after the death of Bashir 1 (we had an elder brother who died in 1888). While sleeping he got choked and then condition woresned but that attack was light. Then after some time (few days) he went out saying that I am not feeling well today. Mother said after some time sheikh Hamid Ali ( he was an old sincere servent of mgaq, he is dead now) knocked at the door and asked for a pitcher of hot water. Mother said, I knew that mgaq’s condition is worsened, so I asked a maid to ask him (sh hamid) about mgaq’s condition. Sh Hamid Ali said its bad. I went inside the mosque and saw mgaq lying. I went near him he said- I m not feeling well. I was praying and saw something black raised in front of me and went up to sky. Then I screamed and fell down and became like fainted. Mother says that after that he started getting these attacks on REGULAR BASIS. This humble one asked what was attack like, she said that his hands and feet got cold, body nerves got shrunk specially neck’s and then dizziness started. In that condition, he was unable to support his body. In the beginning, these attacks / seizures were svere but later on there was no such severity and he became used to that.

Humble one asked, did he ever get any problem with his head? Mother said, before he used to get nominal headache attacks. Humble one asked, did he use to lead the prayers, mother said yes, but due to attacks he stopped. Humble one states that was before the claim of being Massiah. ”

MGA’s wife confirms that MGA never led salat after 1888
https://ahmadiyyafactcheckblog.com/2018/03/12/nusrat-jehan-begum-claims-that-mga-only-led-salaat-before-4-november-1888-never-after/

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https://ahmadiyyafactcheckblog.wordpress.com/2017/08/03/islami-qurbani-by-qazi-yar-mohammed-1920-printed-at-riaz-e-hind-press-amritsar-district-kangra/

https://ahmadiyyafactcheckblog.com/2017/12/09/mga-never-led-salaat-in-his-entire-life/

https://ahmadiyyafactcheckblog.com/2018/03/12/nusrat-jehan-begum-claims-that-mga-only-led-salaat-before-4-november-1888-never-after/

https://ahmadiyyafactcheckblog.com/2017/07/25/mirza-ghulam-ahmad-used-paan-beetle-leef-during-prayers/

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Mirza Ghulam Ahmad never led Salaat!!!!!!!

Intro
We all know that MGA never did any public speeches.  We also know that he only had 5-debates in his entire life and they were all written debates, and Noorudin was always close by as well as Abdul Kareem and the rest of the team.  Officially, as of 1891, Maulvi Abdul Kareem, Amrohi and Noorudin were the imams of the mosque at Qadian.  They led all the prayers, they did all the friday sermons and wrote all of the books.  Mufti Sadiq also helped.  As did Muhammad Ali later on and many many others.  Before 1891, MGA had other people lead the salaat, the father of Jalal-uddin-Shams comes to mind.

Nonetheless, MGA couldn’t memorize the quran and was mostly high on opium, so he could never lead prayers.  That’s what my research indicates.

The Quote
SEERATUL MAHDI PART-III PAGE 111
“””Stated to me by Dr. Mir Muhammad Ismail that once Due to some reasons Molvi Abdul Karim could not lead the prayers, Molvi Nooruddin was also not present, so Hazrat Sahab ( MGAQ) asked Hakeem Fazluddin to lead the prayer. Hakeem Fazluddin excused to offer the services by saying how can i lead the prayer when huzur know that i have been suffering from PILES and can,t maintain my ablution (WAZU) due to gaseous emissions all the time. Huzur asked hakeem Fazluddin, are your prayers valid despite the problem? He said yes they are valid. Then lead the prayer , our prayer will also be valid said hazrat sahab”””

The scan work
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Another quote
qarchives.com/misc/Seeratul_Mahdi_1.pdf
pdf page 20 of 296
Narration no. 19

” My mother narrated to me that mgaq got first attack of dizziness and hysteria few days after the death of Bashir 1 (we had an elder brother who died in 1888). While sleeping he got choked and then condition woresned but that attack was light. Then after some time (few days) he went out saying that I am not feeling well today. Mother said after some time sheikh Hamid Ali ( he was an old sincere servent of mgaq, he is dead now) knocked at the door and asked for a pitcher of hot water. Mother said, I knew that mgaq’s condition is worsened, so I asked a maid to ask him (sh hamid) about mgaq’s condition. Sh Hamid Ali said its bad. I went inside the mosque and saw mgaq lying. I went near him he said- I m not feeling well. I was praying and saw something black raised in front of me and went up to sky. Then I screamed and fell down and became like fainted. Mother says that after that he started getting these attacks on REGULAR BASIS. This humble one asked what was attack like, she said that his hands and feet got cold, body nerves got shrunk specially neck’s and then dizziness started. In that condition, he was unable to support his body. In the beginning, these attacks / seizures were svere but later on there was no such severity and he became used to that.

Humble one asked, did he ever get any problem with his head? Mother said, before he used to get nominal headache attacks. Humble one asked, did he use to lead the prayers, mother said yes, but due to attacks he stopped. Humble one states that was before the claim of being Massiah. “

Conclusions
MGA was not any type of Imam.  He hired Noorudin and his friends to write and lead prayers for him and to give speeches on this behalf.  Check my other essays on MGA and his lack of leading salaat here: https://ahmadiyyafactcheckblog.wordpress.com/2017/03/03/mirza-ghulam-ahmad-got-stroked-during-salaat/

 

Nusrat Jehan Begum claims that MGA only led Salaat before 4 November 1888, never after

Intro
Ahmadi’s are very stubborn people.  This is their biggest malfunction.  We have posted data on this blog for years indicating that MGA never led salaat for any congregation.  Ahmadi’s refused to believe it.  It was too much for them, they then began to argue that MGA did in-fact lead some salaat.  However, after some additional digging, we have uncovered that MGA never led salaat at least after Nov. 4th, 1888.  The testimony in the below proves that.  Further, MGA barely had any followers to lead salaat for before this date.  We suspect that he still never led salaat, and even if he did, it was in-front of small children or gullible peers who never tried to correct MGA when he made mistakes.

The quote

qarchives.com/misc/Seeratul_Mahdi_1.pdf
pdf page 20 of 296
Narration no. 19

”My mother narrated to me that mgaq got first attack of dizziness and hysteria few days after the death of Bashir 1 (we had an elder brother who died in 1888). While sleeping he got choked and then condition woresned but that attack was light. Then after some time (few days) he went out saying that I am not feeling well today. Mother said after some time sheikh Hamid Ali ( he was an old sincere servent of mgaq, he is dead now) knocked at the door and asked for a pitcher of hot water. Mother said, I knew that mgaq’s condition is worsened, so I asked a maid to ask him (sh hamid) about mgaq’s condition. Sh Hamid Ali said its bad. I went inside the mosque and saw mgaq lying. I went near him he said- I m not feeling well. I was praying and saw something black raised in front of me and went up to sky. Then I screamed and fell down and became like fainted. Mother says that after that he started getting these attacks on REGULAR BASIS. This humble one asked what was attack like, she said that his hands and feet got cold, body nerves got shrunk specially neck’s and then dizziness started. In that condition, he was unable to support his body. In the beginning, these attacks / seizures were svere but later on there was no such severity and he became used to that.

Humble one asked, did he ever get any problem with his head? Mother said, before he used to get nominal headache attacks. Humble one asked, did he use to lead the prayers, mother said yes, but due to attacks he stopped. Humble one states that was before the claim of being Massiah. ”

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https://ahmadiyyafactcheckblog.com/2017/11/28/shaikh-meher-ali-hoshiarpuri-and-mirza-ghulam-ahmad/

https://ahmadiyyafactcheckblog.com/2018/03/12/nusrat-jehan-begum-claims-that-mga-only-led-salaat-before-4-november-1888-never-after/

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In 1884, Mirza Ghulam Ahmad claimed that the Quran 48:29 was also revealed to him

Intro
After the publishing of the 4th volume of Braheen e Ahmadiyya in late 1884, MGA was called a Kafir by the leaders of the Ahl-e-hadith sect, who had just helped MGA marry an Ahl-e-Hadith girl. MGA was so bold, he began claiming that many verses of the Quran had been also revealed onto himself. In this essay, we are writing about 48:29, which would be 48:30 in the Ahmadiyya Quran’s (interestingly, after MGA died, the Ahmadi’s who wrote commentary on the Quran never mention that this verse is about MGA, Lahori’s and Qadiani’s, see page 2953)). Per MGA,  “””I have been named ‘Muhammad’ as well as ‘Messenger'”””, (see “Eik Ghalti Ka Izala”, page 2, online english edition). MGA is essentially claiming HE WAS REFERRED TO AS MUHAMMAD in this verse.

48:29
In Nov. of 1901, in MGA’s famous announcement/booklet, “Eik Ghalti Ka Izala”, MGA says:

“”””””””””””””””””””””In the same book, close upon the above Divine Communication, is this Divine revelation:  Muhammad is the Messenger of Allah, and those who are with him are
hard against the disbelievers, tender amongst themselves.“”””””””””””””””””””””””””””””””””””””””””

This is just the first sentence of the full verse from the Quran
The full verse is as follows:

“”””””””””””””””””””””””Muhammad is the Messenger of Allah. And those who are with him are hard against the disbelievers, tender among themselves. Thou seest them bowing and prostrating themselves in Prayer, seeking grace from Allah and His pleasure. Their mark is upon their faces, being the traces of prostrations. This is their description in the Torah. And their description in the Gospel is like unto a seed-produce that sends forth its sprout, then makes it strong; it then becomes thick, and stands firm on its stem, delighting the sowers — that He may cause the disbelievers to burn with rage at the sight of them. Allah has promised, unto those of them who believe and do good works, forgiveness and a great reward.“””””””””””””””””””””””””””

The verse is mentioned in Izala Auham (1890–1891) as MGA tried to explain his abusive language
As MGA worked on explaining as to why he had used abusive language, he quoted 48:29.  

This verse was on the cover page of Asmani Faisala (1891)
The verse was presented on the cover page of MGA’s famous book.

Other Quranic verses that MGA claimed for himself in 1884
——48:28, 61:09 and 9:32
——-21:107
——-10:16
——17:8
——18:83

Links and Related Essay’s
https://ahmadiyyafactcheckblog.com/2020/01/27/in-1884-mirza-ghulam-ahmad-claimed-that-the-quran-21107-was-also-revealed-to-him/

https://ahmadiyyafactcheckblog.com/2018/02/17/mirza-ghulam-ahmad-quoted-and-commented-on-178-in-1884-in-the-braheen-e-ahmadiyya-vol-4-he-then-connected-178-with-the-return-of-the-messiah/

https://ahmadiyyafactcheckblog.com/2019/12/18/mirza-ghulam-ahmad-also-claimed-to-be-the-second-coming-of-dhul-qarnain-from-quran-1883/

https://ahmadiyyafactcheckblog.com/2020/01/27/in-1884-mirza-ghulam-ahmad-claimed-that-the-quran-1016-was-also-revealed-to-him/

https://ahmadiyyafactcheckblog.com/?s=48%3A29

https://ahmadiyyafactcheckblog.com/2020/01/28/in-1884-mirza-ghulam-ahmad-claimed-that-the-quran-6109-4828-and-932-was-also-revealed-to-him/

 Misconception Removed

https://ahmadiyyafactcheckblog.com/2019/11/28/in-1884-mirza-ghulam-ahmad-was-indirectly-denying-quran-349-as-he-denied-the-miracles-of-esa-as/

https://ahmadiyyafactcheckblog.com/2017/12/09/mirza-ghulam-ahmad-was-considered-a-kafir-in-1884-before-his-wild-claims/

https://ahmadiyyafactcheckblog.com/2018/02/17/mirza-ghulam-ahmad-quoted-and-commented-on-178-in-1884-in-the-braheen-e-ahmadiyya-vol-4-he-then-connected-178-with-the-return-of-the-messiah/

https://ahmadiyyafactcheckblog.com/2018/02/09/during-the-writing-of-braheen-e-ahmadiyya-mga-masked-his-beliefs-he-was-already-asserting-that-esa-as-died/

https://ahmadiyyafactcheckblog.com/2016/11/14/what-is-maseel-e-maseeh-the-like-of-the-messiah/

https://ahmadiyyafactcheckblog.com/2016/10/27/sir-syeds-view-on-esa-as/

https://ahmadiyyafactcheckblog.com/2017/07/16/the-queen-of-the-princely-state-of-bhopal-invested-heavily-1878-into-mirza-ghulam-ahmad-and-his-braheen-they-were-disappointed-by-the-product/

https://ahmadiyyafactcheckblog.com/2017/12/26/did-mirza-ghulam-ahmad-claim-to-be-the-messiah-in-1889/

https://ahmadiyyafactcheckblog.com/2016/11/14/mga-confuses-all-of-his-readers-in-1891-as-he-claimed-to-be-the-promised-messiah/

https://ahmadiyyafactcheckblog.com/2018/03/06/nusrat-jehan-begum-and-other-women-didnt-get-into-to-mgas-bait-in-1889-and-after-were-they-illiterate/

https://ahmadiyyafactcheckblog.com/2017/07/17/ahmadiyya-leadership-lied-about-the-first-bait-ceremony-in-1889/

http://www.aaiil.org/text/articles/reviewofreligions/raw/reviewreligionsenglish1908.pdf

https://ahmadiyyafactcheckblog.com/2017/12/09/mirza-ghulam-ahmad-was-accused-of-claiming-prophethood-in-the-1879-1884-era/

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In 1884, Mirza Ghulam Ahmad claimed that the Quran 61:09, 48:28 and 9:32 was also revealed to him

Intro
After the publishing of the 4th volume of Braheen e Ahmadiyya in late 1884, MGA was called a Kafir by the leaders of the Ahl-e-hadith sect, who had just helped MGA marry an Ahl-e-Hadith girl. MGA was so bold, he began claiming that many verses of the Quran had been also revealed onto himself.

48:28, 61:09 and 9:32 in “Eik Ghalti Ka Izala” 1901
On the second page, MGA quotes a revelation of his which is similar to three verses of the Quran, 48:28, 61:09 and 9:32 (that would 48:29, 61:10 and 9:33 in Ahmadiyya Quran’s). MGA never specified the verse number, we have to assume all 3 were revealed to him.

MGA says:

“””Even in Brahin-e-Ahmadiyya, which was published some 22 years ago, these words appear in no small number. For instance, one of the Revelations found in Brahine- Ahmadiyya reads:

“”””””””””””””””””””””””””””””He it is Who has sent His Messenger, with guidance and the Religion of truth, that He may make it prevail over all other religions.”””””””””””””””””””””””””””””””””

(See Brahin-e-Ahmadiyya, p. 498)(See also “Eik Ghalti Ka Izala”, online english edition)

48:28, 61:09 and 9:32 in Braheen e Ahmadiyya Vol. 4
The exact same reference is on page 374. The Ahmadiyya editor’s erroneously listed it as verse 61:10, it would be 61:09 in the non-Ahmadi Quranic numbering system. 9:32 is another similar verse. In fact, 61:09, 48:28 and 9:32 are all almost identical to each other. MGA even claimed that these verses were prophecies about his own coming. See page 379 also, the first part of the 3 verses is quoted by MGA.

The reference from the 2009 online english edition of Tadhkirah
See page 92.

61:09 (61:10 in the Ahmadiyya Quran’s) is quoted in Khutbah Ilhamiya
Interestingly enough, the same verse is quoted by MGA in Khutbah Ilhamiya.

Other Quranic verses that MGA claimed for himself in 1884
——48:28, 61:09 and 9:32
——-21:107
——-10:16
——17:8
——18:83

Links and Related Essay’s
https://ahmadiyyafactcheckblog.com/2020/01/27/in-1884-mirza-ghulam-ahmad-claimed-that-the-quran-21107-was-also-revealed-to-him/

https://ahmadiyyafactcheckblog.com/2018/02/17/mirza-ghulam-ahmad-quoted-and-commented-on-178-in-1884-in-the-braheen-e-ahmadiyya-vol-4-he-then-connected-178-with-the-return-of-the-messiah/

https://ahmadiyyafactcheckblog.com/2019/01/29/khutbah-ilhamia-quotes-the-revealed-sermon-april-11th-1901/

https://ahmadiyyafactcheckblog.com/2020/01/27/in-1884-mirza-ghulam-ahmad-claimed-that-the-quran-1016-was-also-revealed-to-him/

A Misconception Removed

https://ahmadiyyafactcheckblog.com/2019/11/28/in-1884-mirza-ghulam-ahmad-was-indirectly-denying-quran-349-as-he-denied-the-miracles-of-esa-as/

https://ahmadiyyafactcheckblog.com/2017/12/09/mirza-ghulam-ahmad-was-considered-a-kafir-in-1884-before-his-wild-claims/

https://ahmadiyyafactcheckblog.com/2018/02/17/mirza-ghulam-ahmad-quoted-and-commented-on-178-in-1884-in-the-braheen-e-ahmadiyya-vol-4-he-then-connected-178-with-the-return-of-the-messiah/

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https://ahmadiyyafactcheckblog.com/2016/11/14/what-is-maseel-e-maseeh-the-like-of-the-messiah/

https://ahmadiyyafactcheckblog.com/2016/10/27/sir-syeds-view-on-esa-as/

https://ahmadiyyafactcheckblog.com/2017/07/16/the-queen-of-the-princely-state-of-bhopal-invested-heavily-1878-into-mirza-ghulam-ahmad-and-his-braheen-they-were-disappointed-by-the-product/

https://ahmadiyyafactcheckblog.com/2017/12/26/did-mirza-ghulam-ahmad-claim-to-be-the-messiah-in-1889/

https://ahmadiyyafactcheckblog.com/2016/11/14/mga-confuses-all-of-his-readers-in-1891-as-he-claimed-to-be-the-promised-messiah/

https://ahmadiyyafactcheckblog.com/2018/03/06/nusrat-jehan-begum-and-other-women-didnt-get-into-to-mgas-bait-in-1889-and-after-were-they-illiterate/

https://ahmadiyyafactcheckblog.com/2017/07/17/ahmadiyya-leadership-lied-about-the-first-bait-ceremony-in-1889/

http://www.aaiil.org/text/articles/reviewofreligions/raw/reviewreligionsenglish1908.pdf

https://ahmadiyyafactcheckblog.com/2017/12/09/mirza-ghulam-ahmad-was-accused-of-claiming-prophethood-in-the-1879-1884-era/

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Ahmadiyya persecution rates from 1954 to May 29th 1974—barely 5 Ahmadi’s were killed

Intro
Ahmadi’s are lying when they claim that they are being persecuted. The stats prove the opposite. Most Ahmadi’s don’t read and do research, they simply believe whatever it is that their mullahs tell them. In the first 50 years of Ahmadiyya, not a single Ahmadi was murdered for his faith in British-India. There were only 12 Ahmadi’s who were allegedly killed for being Ahmadi in the first 50 years of Ahmadiyya. 4 of these were Ahmadi’s who were doing tabligh in Afghanistan and officially employees of MGA and his sons. In fact, 11 of the 12 were killed in Afghanistan. 1 Ahmadi was killed in Iraq in 1925, however, we have never seen any details. Based on this data, we conclude that only 4 Ahmadi’s were killed for their faith in the first 50 years of Ahmadiyya. We also conclude that there was no persecution at all. Per Ahmadiyya sources 15 additional Ahmadi’s were killed for their faith from 1940 to August of 1947. Of these 15, 11 murders happened in Indonesia, the entire case is totally unknown, we have no idea what this could have been about. There is another single murder from Albania, which also seems dubious. That leaves 3 cases, of those 4, 2 of them happened to Hazrat Haji Meeran Buksh Sahib and his wife, the details of this incident are also totally unknown, we have no way of verifying why he was killed along with his wife in Ambala. The last one was from Swabi, in modern day Pakistan, again, there are no details at all. We can easily conclude that in British India, in the first 60 years of Ahmadiyya, barely a few Ahmadi’s were murdered for their faith, we count 4-5, and those were Ahmadi’s who were conducting tabligh and were killed by Muslims.

Sep-1947 to Jan 1954
Per Ahmadiyya sources, roughly 57 Ahmadi’s were killed for their faith in this time frame. However, the of these 57, 26 were killed in and around Qadian during the partition, most of these killers weren’t Muslims at all, but Sikh’s and Hindus. The Khalifa fled Qadian for Lahore on 9-11-1947 and left Ahmadi’s to die. When the Khalifa arrived in Lahore, he immediately asked Ahmadi’s in Pakistan to give at least 50% of their money to his Jamaat. This immediately proves that the biggest killers of Ahmadi’s by 1947 were Sikh’s and Hindu’s. Furthermore, these Ahmadi’s were only killed because they looked like Muslims to the Sikh’s and Hindu’s. Roughly 500,000 Muslims died and 500,000 Sikhs and Hindu’s. 14 Ahmadi’s seem to have been killed in India, in Jammu and Kashmir, we are unclear as to how many of these were killed during military service. We have to assume that the 3 deaths in Jammu may have been based on Ahmadi’s looking like Muslims and the other 11 were Ahmadi’s who were serving in the Furqan Force or some other military wing of Pakistan. 6 additional Ahmadi’s seem to have been killed in Indonesia, on the same day, again, there is no data on this at all. That leaves 11. Of the final 11, 6 were killed during the Lahore-riots of 1953, that leaves 5. We conclude that only 16 Ahmadi’s were killed for their faith from Sept-1947 to Jan-1954. From 1889 to 1954 we estimate a total of barely 20 Ahmadi’s who were killed directly as a result of aggressive tabligh work. The Munir inquiry concluded the same, it was the fault of Ahmadi’s and their aggressive tabligh tactics. Newly found, internal British government reports show that up to 200 Ahmadi’s were in fact murdered in and around Qadian in September–Nov of 1947.

January 1954 to May 29th, 1974
Per Ahmadiyya records, 10 Ahmadi’s were killed for their religion in this 20 years period. This is the most peaceful period in Ahmadiyya history in Pakistan. 3 of these killings were in Afghanistan, and thus sketchy in terms of details. 2 are from Bangladesh, which was East Pakistan in those days. The remaining 5 are from West Pakistan. We were not able to confirm any of these. We have concluded that from 1889 to May 20th, 1974, barely 30-40 Ahmadi’s were killed for their faith.

Table

Jun 29, 1956 Dr. Mohammad Ahmad Khan Sahib Kohat Pakistan
Feb 1956 Dawood Jan Sahib Kabul Afghanistan
1957 Haji Fazal Mohammad Khan Sahib Afghanistan
1957 Son of Haji Fazal Mohammad Khan Sahib Afghanistan
Nov 03, 1963 Usman Ghani Sahib Bangladesh
Nov 03, 1963 Abdur Rahim Sahib Bangladesh
Feb 11, 1966 Rustam Khan Khattak Sahib Mardan, NWFP Pakistan
Dec 21, 1966 Abdul Haq Noor Sahib Krundi, Sindh Pakistan
Oct –, 1967 Master Ghulam Hussain Sahib Thor Nala, Gilgit Pakistan
Jun 13, 1969 Chaudhry Habibullah Sahib Qaboola, Pakpattan Pakistan

 

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https://ahmadiyyafactcheckblog.com/2018/11/29/review-of-religions-june-1947-edition-free-download/

https://thepersecution.org/facts/martyred.html

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https://ahmadiyyafactcheckblog.com/2018/03/11/mirza-ghulam-ahmad-terrible-arabic-pronunciation-and-syed-abdul-lateef/

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https://digitalcommons.unomaha.edu/cgi/viewcontent.cgi?article=1154&context=afghanuno

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Ahmadiyya persecution rates from 1947 to 1954—barely 20 Ahmadi’s were killed

Intro
Ahmadi’s are lying when they claim that they are being persecuted. The stats prove the opposite. Most Ahmadi’s don’t read and do research, they simply believe whatever it is that their mullahs tell them. In the first 50 years of Ahmadiyya, not a single Ahmadi was murdered for his faith in British-India. There were only 12 Ahmadi’s who were allegedly killed for being Ahmadi in the first 50 years of Ahmadiyya. 4 of these were Ahmadi’s who were doing tabligh in Afghanistan and officially employees of MGA and his sons. In fact, 11 of the 12 were killed in Afghanistan. 1 Ahmadi was killed in Iraq in 1925, however, we have never seen any details. Based on this data, we conclude that only 4 Ahmadi’s were killed for their faith in the first 50 years of Ahmadiyya. We also conclude that there was no persecution at all. Per Ahmadiyya sources 15 additional Ahmadi’s were killed for their faith from 1940 to August of 1947. Of these 15, 11 murders happened in Indonesia, the entire case is totally unknown, we have no idea what this could have been about. There is another single murder from Albania, which also seems dubious. That leaves 3 cases, of those 4, 2 of them happened to Hazrat Haji Meeran Buksh Sahib and his wife, the details of this incident are also totally unknown, we have no way of verifying why he was killed along with his wife in Ambala. The last one was from Swabi, in modern day Pakistan, again, there are no details at all. We can easily conclude that in British India, in the first 60 years of Ahmadiyya, barely a few Ahmadi’s were murdered for their faith, we count 4-5, and those were Ahmadi’s who were conducting tabligh and were killed by Muslims.

Sep-1947 to Jan 1954
Per Ahmadiyya sources, roughly 57 Ahmadi’s were killed for their faith in this time frame. However, the of these 57, 26 were killed in and around Qadian during the partition, most of these killers weren’t Muslims at all, but Sikh’s and Hindus. The Khalifa fled Qadian for Lahore on 9-11-1947 and left Ahmadi’s to die. When the Khalifa arrived in Lahore, he immediately asked Ahmadi’s in Pakistan to give at least 50% of their money to his Jamaat. This immediately proves that the biggest killers of Ahmadi’s by 1947 were Sikh’s and Hindu’s. Furthermore, these Ahmadi’s were only killed because they looked like Muslims to the Sikh’s and Hindu’s. Roughly 500,000 Muslims died and 500,000 Sikhs and Hindu’s. 14 Ahmadi’s seem to have been killed in India, in Jammu and Kashmir, we are unclear as to how many of these were killed during military service. We have to assume that the 3 deaths in Jammu may have been based on Ahmadi’s looking like Muslims and the other 11 were Ahmadi’s who were serving in the Furqan Force or some other military wing of Pakistan. 6 additional Ahmadi’s seem to have been killed in Indonesia, on the same day, again, there is no data on this at all. That leaves 11. Of the final 11, 6 were killed during the Lahore-riots of 1953, that leaves 5. We conclude that only 16 Ahmadi’s were killed for their faith from Sept-1947 to Jan-1954. From 1889 to 1954 we estimate a total of barely 20 Ahmadi’s who were killed directly as a result of aggressive tabligh work. The Munir inquiry concluded the same, it was the fault of Ahmadi’s and their aggressive tabligh tactics. Newly found, internal British government reports show that up to 200 Ahmadi’s were in fact murdered in and around Qadian in September–Nov of 1947.

Sep–1947 to 1954 table

Sep 02, 1947 Jamadar Mohammad Ashraf Sahib Qadian India
Sep 06, 1947 Mian Ilm-ud-din Sahib Qadian India
Sep 19, 1947 Syed Mahboob Alam Bihari Sahib Qadian India
Oct 04, 1947 Sultan Alam Sahib Qadian India
Oct 14, 1947 Mirza Ahmad Shafi Sahib Qadian India
Oct 14, 1947 Faiz Mohammad Sahib Qadian India
Oct 14, 1947 Zohra Bibi Sahiba Qadian India
Oct 14, 1947 A four year old girl Qadian India
1947 Abdul Jabbar Sahib Qadian India
1947 Malik Hameed Ali Sahib Qadian India
1947 Master Abdul Azeez Sahib Qadian India
1947 Mohammad Ramzan Sahib Qadian India
1947 Alam Bibi Sahiba Qadian India
1947 Chiragh Din Sahib Qadian India
1947 Jan Bibi Sahiba Qadian India
1947 Munawwar Ahmad Sahib Qadian India
1947 Niaz Ali Sahib Qadian India
1947 Abdul Majeed Khan Sahib Qadian India
1947 Badar Din Sahib Qadian India
1947 Gulab Bibi Sahiba Qadian India
1947 Mohammad Ismail Sahib Qadian India
1947 Abdul Rehman Sahib Qadian India
1947 Chaudhry Faqeer Mohammad Sahib Qadian India
1947 Mohammad Muneer Shami Sahib Qadian India
1947 Hameeda Begum Sahiba w/o Abdus Salam Pundit Sahib Qadian India
1947 Azeem Ahmad s/o Pundit Abdullah Sahib Qadian India
1947 Babu Abdul Karim Sahib Jammu, Kashmir India
1947 Mother of Abdul Karim Sahib Jammu, Kashmir India
1947 Wife of Abdul Karim Sahib Jammu, Kashmir India
1947 Khawaja Mohammad Abdullah Lone Sahib Kashmir
Aug 03, 1948 Chaudhry Naseer Ahmad Sahib Kashmir
Aug 11, 1948 Dr. Major Mahmood Ahmad Sahib Quetta Pakistan
Dec 07, 1948 Manzoor Ahmad Jalvi Sahib Kashmir
Dec 21, 1948 Mohammad Aslam Mangut Sahib Kashmir
1948 Barkat Ali Khan Sahib Kashmir
1948 Allah Rakha Sahib Kashmir
Jan 16, 1949 Sakhi Mung Sahib Kashmir
Feb 01, 1949 Mian Ghulam Yaseen Sahib Kashmir
Mar 18, 1949 Mohammad Khan Sahib Kashmir
Oct 09, 1949 Basheer Ahmad Riaz Sahib Kashmir
Oct 09, 1949 Abdul Rahman Sahib Kashmir
Jan 10, 1950 Mohammad Akram Sahib Charsadda, Peshawar Pakistan
Oct 01, 1950 Master Ghulam Mohammad Sahib Okara Pakistan
Oct 10, 1950 Chaudhry Badar Din Sahib (companion of Promised Massih) Rawalpindi Pakistan
Sep 21, 1951 Moulvi Abdul Ghafoor Sahib Mansehra, Hazara Pakistan
Sep 21, 1951 Abdul Lateef s/o Moulvi Abdul Ghafoor Sahib Mansehra, Hazara Pakistan
Feb 22, 1952 Choudhry Mohammad Hussain Sahib Gumbat, Khairpur Pakistan
Mar 03, 1953 Soma Sahib Chinandam Indonesia
Mar 03, 1953 Oson Sahib Chinandam Indonesia
Mar 03, 1953 Surman Sahib Chinandam Indonesia
Mar 03, 1953 Jamli Sahib Chinandam Indonesia
Mar 03, 1953 Edvin Sahiba Chinandam Indonesia
Mar 03, 1953 Adnia Sahiba Chinandam Indonesia
Mar 06, 1953 Mohammad Shafi Sahib Lahore Pakistan
Mar 06, 1953 Jamal Ahmad Sahib Lahore Pakistan
Mar 06, 1953 Mirza Karim Baig Sahib Lahore Pakistan
Mar 06, 1953 Havaldar Abdul Ghafoor Sahib Lahore Pakistan
Ata Sahib Lahore Pakistan
Mar –, 1953 Master Manzoor Ahmad Sahib Lahore Pakistan

 

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https://digitalcommons.unomaha.edu/cgi/viewcontent.cgi?article=1154&context=afghanuno

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#ahmadiyyapersecutionisfake #thereisnoahmadiyyapersecution
#ahmadiyya #ahmadiyyatrueislam #ahmadiapartheid #Ahmadiyyat #rabwah #qadian #meetthekhalifa #ahmadiyyat #muslimsforpeace #ahmadiyyafactcheckblog #nolifewithoutkhalifa #drsalam #AhmadiMosqueattack #AhmadiyyaPersecution #Sialkot #Mosqueattack

Ahmadiyya persecution rates from 1889 to 1939–Only 12 Ahmadi’s killed in 50 years?

Intro
Ahmadi’s are lying when they claim that they are being persecuted. The stats prove the opposite. Most Ahmadi’s don’t read and do research, they simply believe whatever it is that their mullahs tell them. In the first 50 years of Ahmadiyya, not a single Ahmadi was murdered for his faith in British-India. There were only 12 Ahmadi’s who were allegedly killed for being Ahmadi in the first 50 years of Ahmadiyya. 4 of these were Ahmadi’s who were doing tabligh in Afghanistan and officially employees of MGA and his sons. In fact, 11 of the 12 were killed in Afghanistan. 1 Ahmadi was killed in Iraq in 1925, however, we have never seen any details. Based on this data, we conclude that only 4 Ahmadi’s were killed for their faith in the first 50 years of Ahmadiyya. We also conclude that there was no persecution at all.

1889–1939

Jun 20, 1901 Hazrat Moulvi Abdur Rehman Sahib Kabul Afghanistan
Jul 14, 1903 Hazrat Sahibzada Abdul Lateef Sahib Kabul Afghanistan
1917 Sahibzada Mohammad Saeed Jan Sahib Kabul Afghanistan
1917 Mohammad Omer Jan Sahib Kabul Afghanistan
1918 Syed Sultan Ahmad Sahib Kabul Afghanistan
1918 Syed Hakeem Ahmad Sahib Kabul Afghanistan
Aug 31, 1924 Moulvi Naimatullah Khan Sahib Kabul Afghanistan
Feb 05, 1925 Moulvi Abdul Haleem Sahib Kabul Afghanistan
Feb 05, 1925 Qari Noor Ali Sahib Kabul Afghanistan
Jan 16, 1935 Sheikh Ahmad Furqani Sahib Baghdad Iraq
Feb 15, 1939 Wali Dad Khan Sahib Afghanistan
Feb 15, 1939 Son of Wali Dad Khan Sahib Afghanistan

 

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https://ahmadiyyafactcheckblog.com/?s=Karamhttps://www.alislam.org/library/books/The-Afghan-Martyrs-by-B.A.Rafiq.pdf

https://digitalcommons.unomaha.edu/cgi/viewcontent.cgi?article=1154&context=afghanuno

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#ahmadiyyapersecutionisfake #thereisnoahmadiyyapersecution
#ahmadiyya #ahmadiyyatrueislam #ahmadiapartheid #Ahmadiyyat #rabwah #qadian #meetthekhalifa #ahmadiyyat #muslimsforpeace #ahmadiyyafactcheckblog #nolifewithoutkhalifa #drsalam #AhmadiMosqueattack #AhmadiyyaPersecution #Sialkot #Mosqueattack

Riots in Qadian after the boundary commission gave Gurdaspur to India-1947–200 Ahmadi’s killed?

Intro
We found an important government level document which reports rioting in Qadian after the Khalifa left for Lahore.  There is another story that is similar, it is about how a Sikh murdered an Ahmadi in 1947.  This report tells us that 200 Ahmadi’s were killed.  What is strange about this, is the fact that it was never reported by Ahmadi sources.  These murders seem to have happened after the Khalifa and his entourage left for Lahore.

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http://www.ticollegerabwah.com/talimul.pdf


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