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MGA never led Salaat in his entire life!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Intro
For the past 2 years, my team of writers/researchers and I have continuously told Ahmadis and Non-Ahmadis that MGA was incapable of leading Salaat.  MGA spoke with a terrible stutter/stammer, he could never properly memorize any chapters of the Quran, he was always high on opium, his Arabic tajweed was terrible-he had a Punjabee accent as he spoke in Arabic.  Thus, ever since MGA attended his father’s Masjid Aqsa, there was a hired Imam who led the prayers.  Further, in 1884, when MGA had Masjid Mubarak built, MGA hired an Imam.  After MGA made his claims in 1891, Abdul Karim, Maulvi Ahsan, Nooruddin, Mufti Muhammad Sadiq or any other Muslim would lead the prayers, the same was to be said about the Masjid Aqsa, these were the two only masjids in Qadian.  In the below, I have posted “new-information” on this topic, per 12-9-17.  My team has located the Malfuzat of 1903 wherein an excuse was given by Ahmadiyya leadership as to why MGA never led salaat, they went so far as to argue that the Messiah wasn’t supposed to lead Salaat per hadith. However, they casually forget that MGA also claimed to be the Mahdi, and the Mahdi was supposed to lead Salaat, hence, MGA has failed the most basic criteria of the Mahdi, the leading of Salaat.  In fact, while MGA would perform Salaat, his fanatical followers were known to approach MGA (during salaat) and stroke his body sexually.

Further, we have argued with Ahmadis on this topic endlessly, the hard-core Ahmadi never admitted that MGA failed to be an Imam even once in his life, they would always deflect our allegations, and in typical brainwashed fashion.  However, with this reference, the story is now closed and confirmed.  MGA never led Salaat in his entire life.  This particular incident was also quoted in the official Ahmadi newspaper, the Badr.

Malfuzat from 1903
It should be noted, this volume of Malfuzat was Published in Rabwah, 1961, in Urdu, covering the period from November 1901 to October 14, 1902 (see page xl).

Malfoozat 21-oct-1903 . Vol. 3 by Mirza Ghulam Ahamd Qadyani (also reported in Al-badar ) says

“Regarding leading in prayers , one guy question that why hazrat do not lead the prayers ? Answered that it is written in hadees that Maseeh that has to come will pray behind others “

The scans

Another reference that proves that MGA never led Salaat

(Malfoozat, Volume 2, Page 211-212)

“”Look, we also take advantage of this leniency as it has been almost two months that we have been combining the prayers. This is because of the reason of my sickness, and because of the writing of the commentary of Surah Fatiha. In the combining of these prayers, the hadith وَتُجْمَعُ لَهُ الصَّلاةُ is being fulfilled which means that the prayers will be combined for the sake of The Promised Messiahas. From this we also infer that at the time of The Promised Messiahas, he will not lead the prayers, but it will be someone else. This Imam will combine the prayers for the sake of The Promised Messiahas, and this is what is happening today. The days we cannot come due to increased sickness, the prayers are combined during these days and we infer from the words of this hadith that it was through love that The Holy Prophetsaw said that ‘it will happen for his sake’. It should be that we look upon the prophecies of The Holy Prophetsaw with great respect and importance and should not be careless of them, otherwise it is will be of great sin that we look down upon the prophecies of The Holy Prophetsaw. God Almighty created the reason by which the prayers were being combined for so long, otherwise this would only be for two days and it would not be a sign. We respect every world and letter of The Holy Prophetsaw. “”

qarchives.com/misc/Seeratul_Mahdi_1.pdf
pdf page 20 of 296
Narration no. 19

” My mother narrated to me that mgaq got first attack of dizziness and hysteria few days after the death of Bashir 1 (we had an elder brother who died in 1888). While sleeping he got choked and then condition woresned but that attack was light. Then after some time (few days) he went out saying that I am not feeling well today. Mother said after some time sheikh Hamid Ali ( he was an old sincere servent of mgaq, he is dead now) knocked at the door and asked for a pitcher of hot water. Mother said, I knew that mgaq’s condition is worsened, so I asked a maid to ask him (sh hamid) about mgaq’s condition. Sh Hamid Ali said its bad. I went inside the mosque and saw mgaq lying. I went near him he said- I m not feeling well. I was praying and saw something black raised in front of me and went up to sky. Then I screamed and fell down and became like fainted. Mother says that after that he started getting these attacks on REGULAR BASIS. This humble one asked what was attack like, she said that his hands and feet got cold, body nerves got shrunk specially neck’s and then dizziness started. In that condition, he was unable to support his body. In the beginning, these attacks / seizures were svere but later on there was no such severity and he became used to that.

Humble one asked, did he ever get any problem with his head? Mother said, before he used to get nominal headache attacks. Humble one asked, did he use to lead the prayers, mother said yes, but due to attacks he stopped. Humble one states that was before the claim of being Massiah. ”

MGA’s wife confirms that MGA never led salat after 1888
https://ahmadiyyafactcheckblog.com/2018/03/12/nusrat-jehan-begum-claims-that-mga-only-led-salaat-before-4-november-1888-never-after/

Mirza Ghulam Ahmad never led Salaat!!!!!!!

Intro
We all know that MGA never did any public speeches.  We also know that he only had 5-debates in his entire life and they were all written debates, and Noorudin was always close by as well as Abdul Kareem and the rest of the team.  Officially, as of 1891, Maulvi Abdul Kareem, Amrohi and Noorudin were the imams of the mosque at Qadian.  They led all the prayers, they did all the friday sermons and wrote all of the books.  Mufti Sadiq also helped.  As did Muhammad Ali later on and many many others.  Before 1891, MGA had other people lead the salaat, the father of Jalal-uddin-Shams comes to mind.

Nonetheless, MGA couldn’t memorize the quran and was mostly high on opium, so he could never lead prayers.  That’s what my research indicates.

The Quote
SEERATUL MAHDI PART-III PAGE 111
“””Stated to me by Dr. Mir Muhammad Ismail that once Due to some reasons Molvi Abdul Karim could not lead the prayers, Molvi Nooruddin was also not present, so Hazrat Sahab ( MGAQ) asked Hakeem Fazluddin to lead the prayer. Hakeem Fazluddin excused to offer the services by saying how can i lead the prayer when huzur know that i have been suffering from PILES and can,t maintain my ablution (WAZU) due to gaseous emissions all the time. Huzur asked hakeem Fazluddin, are your prayers valid despite the problem? He said yes they are valid. Then lead the prayer , our prayer will also be valid said hazrat sahab”””

The scan work
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Another quote
qarchives.com/misc/Seeratul_Mahdi_1.pdf
pdf page 20 of 296
Narration no. 19

” My mother narrated to me that mgaq got first attack of dizziness and hysteria few days after the death of Bashir 1 (we had an elder brother who died in 1888). While sleeping he got choked and then condition woresned but that attack was light. Then after some time (few days) he went out saying that I am not feeling well today. Mother said after some time sheikh Hamid Ali ( he was an old sincere servent of mgaq, he is dead now) knocked at the door and asked for a pitcher of hot water. Mother said, I knew that mgaq’s condition is worsened, so I asked a maid to ask him (sh hamid) about mgaq’s condition. Sh Hamid Ali said its bad. I went inside the mosque and saw mgaq lying. I went near him he said- I m not feeling well. I was praying and saw something black raised in front of me and went up to sky. Then I screamed and fell down and became like fainted. Mother says that after that he started getting these attacks on REGULAR BASIS. This humble one asked what was attack like, she said that his hands and feet got cold, body nerves got shrunk specially neck’s and then dizziness started. In that condition, he was unable to support his body. In the beginning, these attacks / seizures were svere but later on there was no such severity and he became used to that.

Humble one asked, did he ever get any problem with his head? Mother said, before he used to get nominal headache attacks. Humble one asked, did he use to lead the prayers, mother said yes, but due to attacks he stopped. Humble one states that was before the claim of being Massiah. “

Conclusions
MGA was not any type of Imam.  He hired Noorudin and his friends to write and lead prayers for him and to give speeches on this behalf.  Check my other essays on MGA and his lack of leading salaat here: https://ahmadiyyafactcheckblog.wordpress.com/2017/03/03/mirza-ghulam-ahmad-got-stroked-during-salaat/

 

Nusrat Jehan Begum claims that MGA only led Salaat before 4 November 1888, never after

Intro
Ahmadi’s are very stubborn people.  This is their biggest malfunction.  We have posted data on this blog for years indicating that MGA never led salaat for any congregation.  Ahmadi’s refused to believe it.  It was too much for them, they then began to argue that MGA did in-fact lead some salaat.  However, after some additional digging, we have uncovered that MGA never led salaat at least after Nov. 4th, 1888.  The testimony in the below proves that.  Further, MGA barely had any followers to lead salaat for before this date.  We suspect that he still never led salaat, and even if he did, it was in-front of small children or gullible peers who never tried to correct MGA when he made mistakes.

The quote

qarchives.com/misc/Seeratul_Mahdi_1.pdf
pdf page 20 of 296
Narration no. 19

”My mother narrated to me that mgaq got first attack of dizziness and hysteria few days after the death of Bashir 1 (we had an elder brother who died in 1888). While sleeping he got choked and then condition woresned but that attack was light. Then after some time (few days) he went out saying that I am not feeling well today. Mother said after some time sheikh Hamid Ali ( he was an old sincere servent of mgaq, he is dead now) knocked at the door and asked for a pitcher of hot water. Mother said, I knew that mgaq’s condition is worsened, so I asked a maid to ask him (sh hamid) about mgaq’s condition. Sh Hamid Ali said its bad. I went inside the mosque and saw mgaq lying. I went near him he said- I m not feeling well. I was praying and saw something black raised in front of me and went up to sky. Then I screamed and fell down and became like fainted. Mother says that after that he started getting these attacks on REGULAR BASIS. This humble one asked what was attack like, she said that his hands and feet got cold, body nerves got shrunk specially neck’s and then dizziness started. In that condition, he was unable to support his body. In the beginning, these attacks / seizures were svere but later on there was no such severity and he became used to that.

Humble one asked, did he ever get any problem with his head? Mother said, before he used to get nominal headache attacks. Humble one asked, did he use to lead the prayers, mother said yes, but due to attacks he stopped. Humble one states that was before the claim of being Massiah. ”

 

Failed Prophecy of MGA regarding the Birth of a Son to Miyan Manzur Muhammad 1906-1908

Intro
A man named Miyan Manzur Ahmed and his wife Muhammadee Begum met with MGA at Qadian in 1906.  MGA began to have revelations about this couple having a baby-boy, they already had 2 daughters and were thus hoping for a son.  However, they had a baby-girl instead in 1907 and then Muhammadee Begum herself died in 1908.

1st Revelation and Prophecy

February 19, 1906

I saw (in my dream) that a son was born to Manzur Muhammad and he asked what name should be given him. Then my mind moved from the dream towards the reception of revelation and I was informed: Bashirud-Daulah The Promised Messiah[as] said: I supplicate for a large number of people and do not know to whom the word Manzur Muhammad refers. It might be that the word indicates that a son would be born to Miyań Manzur Muhammad whose birth might bring with it prosperity and wealth; or it might be that the boy himself might rise high and be wealthy. But I cannot say for certain when that boy would be born. God has not specified any time. It might be soon or Allah the Almighty may delay it for several years.

I have bolded the sentence because, MGA says ‘it might be’, that means at this stage MGA is just making an assumption about the father of this son. Ahmadis may try to use this as a loophole and say the actual prophecy relates to someone else who may yet to be born as the MGA clearly states he doesn’t know when this prophecy will be fulfilled. But from revelations after this, we will see MGA was sure that the son was to be born to the same couple.

2nd Revelation and Prophecy

June 7, 1906

It has been conveyed to me by revelation that in the family of Miyań Manzur Muhammad, that is to Muhammadi Begum, a son will be born, who will have two names: (1) Bashirud-Daulah (2) ‘Alam Kabab Both of these names were revealed to me. My interpretation and understanding concerning these is as follows: (1) Bashirud-Daulah means that he would be a good augury for our glory and prosperity. After his birth (or after his achieving his discretion), the prophecy concerning the great earthquake and other prophecies will be fulfilled and a large number of people will turn to us and a great victory will be achieved. (2) ‘Alam Kabab means that within a few months of his birth, or before he achieves his discretion, the world would be overtaken by a great calamity as if it was coming to an end. That is why that boy has been named ‘Alam Kabab. In short, this boy will be called Bashir-ud-Daulah as he will be a Sign of our glory and prosperity and he will be ‘Alam Kabab because he will be an example of the Judgment Day for our opponents.

From the bolded statement, it is clear MGA is saying Allah has conveyed that the son was to be born to the same couple itself. Earlier, in February, MGA was assuming but now Allah has conveyed.

We also learn that a great earthquake is a sign for this person. And a large number of converts will happen.

Same day another revelation is mentioned in Tadkhirah

June 7, 1906

Thereafter, it has been conveyed to me that this boy has two other names also: (1) Shadi Khan, as he will be a token of joy for this Community and (2) Kalimatullah Khan, because he will be a word of God. It has been so appointed from the beginning and will be fulfilled in this age. It is ordained that God will keep the mother of this boy alive till this prophecy is fulfilled. A previous revelation: [English] A word and two girls; refers to the same prophecy…. Miyań Manzur Muhammad has two daughters and when the Kalimatullah will be born then the prophecy A word and two girls would be fulfilled. [Badr, vol. 2, no. 24]

Yet again MGA confirms through Allah’s revelation that the said person will be born to the same couple and relates it with another prophecy he received. And as per the previous prophecy about the word and two girls, MGA says the said couple will now have a son, after two daughters.

Again in June itself MGA talks about this

June 19, 1906

The names of the son of Miyań Manzur Muhammad, who will be a Sign, have been conveyed by revelation of Allah are as follows:

(1) Kalimatul-‘Aziz (2) Kalimatullah Khan (3) [English] Word (4) Bashirud-Daulah (5) Shadi Khan (6) ‘Alam Kabab (7) Nasirud-Din (8) Fatehud-Din (9) [Arabic] [This is a blessed day.]

Now we note see that all this happened while Miyan Manzur Muhammad’s wife, Muhammadee Begum, was pregnant. And from the prophecy bolded above MGA clearly thought this would be a boy and that is why he said the couple had two daughters and when the son (‘A word’) is born the prophecy about ‘Two girls and a word’ will be fulfilled. But in July Muhammadi Begum gave birth to a third girl. Now, with the a girl being born the actual prophecy, if it has to be true, should have mentioned three girls.

Now, after the girl was born, MGA claimed that he supplicated to Allah and it was accepted and the earthquake was postponed and thus it was necessary that the birth of this boy should also be postponed. So, according to MGA, he prayed so much after June so that Allah changed his mind about earthquake and thus the gender of the 8 month old fetus was also changed and Muhammadee Begum delivered a baby girl next month.

No son was born to the said couple thereafter and in the year 1908 Muhammadee Begum passed away. Clearly indicating that the prophecy of MGA failed.

Expected Ahmadi Arguments.

Whenever a Prophecy falls flat. Ahmadis often use the following excuses:

First argument would be based on the first revelation I quoted. Ahmadis would say MGA said “It might be that the word indicates that a son would be born to Miyań Manzur Muhammad”. We know this argument holds no basis from the revelation he received later in which he says the matter was conveyed from Allah.

Second argument, is yet again on the basis that MGA interpreted the dream wrong and when Allah said Miyan Manzur Muhammad He actually meant MGA itself and the son referred to is Mirza Bashiruddeen Mahmud Ahmad. Mahmud Ahmad was already born and in his teens while this prophecy of a son to be born was received. This makes no sense. Further, MGA said Allah conveyed to MGA that the son would be born to this specific couple.

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In 1893, MGA was called a Kafir by a scholar from Baghdad, whilst in India

Intro
When MGA made his wild claims (1889 –1891), he also claimed to have been accepted in Arabia, Egypt and other arab lands.  However, these were all the exaggerations of MGA and his team, they did this in terms of marketing, since no one could verify this support.  Nevertheless, we have found a contemporary scholar from Baghdad, Al Syed Abdul Razzaq Qadri , who was staying at Hyderabad Deccan India, he seems to have read the book Aina Kamalat e Islam by MGA, but then gave the book back to its owner. The heretic expressions and false claims of MGA as mentioned in the book made him angry and shocked.  In June 1893 he wrote letters to MGA calling him a liar, heretic and liable to be put to death with a sharp sword or killed by burning in the fire, a punishment for heretics. He asked MGA to send him a copy of the book so that he may write a comprehensive reply to what has been stated by MGA in AKI.  In response to his letters, MGA did not send the book to him but wrote him a detailed reply comprising mostly of irrelevant personal glorification tall claims and flattery in arabic language. Most parts of arabic text include Quraanic verses and ahadis not having much relevance to the topic. Later on, in 1893 this reply of MGA was published in the shape of a 75 paged book titled as TOHFA E BAGHDAD.  In the opening lines Mirza states he would respond to Abdul Razzaq Baghdadi in a civilized manner. However, towards the end of his letter his abusive language overpowered him and he used foul and obnoxious language.  This is a short 33 page booklet in Arabic by MGA and his team.

He states that:

“Remember when my nails are pricked into the body of opponent it make him worst example of regret.”

“Very soon my Noor, (light) would shine and whole world would follow it except shameless peoples. When the day of punishment from my god would approach no dogs would remain alive nor their barking would be heard at that time”.

Another quote from Hidden Treasures, pages 115-116
(Arabic): I shall humiliate him who designs to humiliate you. We shall suffice against your scoffers. O Ahmad, God has blessed you. You did not let loose but it was Allah who let loose so that you should warn a people whose ancestors have not been warned and that the way of the
guilty ones might become manifest. Say: I have been commissioned and I am the first of believers. Proclaim: The truth has arrived and falsehood has vanished, falsehood always vanishes away. Every blessing is from Muhammad, may peace and blessings of Allah be upon him, then blessed is he who taught and he who has been taught. Say: If I have invented it, the sin of it is on me. They plan and Allah plans and Allah is the Best of planners. He it is who has sent His Messenger with guidance and the religion of truth so as to make it prevail over every religion. There is no changing the words of Allah. I am with you so be you with Me wherever you might be. Be with Allah wherever you might be. Whatever direction might face there is the countenance of
Allah. You are the best people raised for the good of mankind and a source of pride for the believers. Despair not of the mercy of Allah. Hearken, the mercy of Allah is near. Hearken, the help of Allah is near. It will come to you from every distant track. Allah will help you from Himself. Men will help you whom We shall direct from heaven. There is no changing the words of Allah. Today you are in a position of high standing and trust with Us. They will say: ‘This is all his own invention’. Say: Allah is the Source of all this; and then leave them being beguiled by their sport. And who is more unjust than one who invents a lie against Allah? My mercy is on you in matters of the world as well as of faith. You are of those who are helped. (Tuhfa-e-Baghdad,
pp. 17-20, Ruhani Khaza’in, vol. 7, p. 21-23)

Scans

The Majlis Khuddam-ul-Ahmadiyya (MKA) pledge is unconstitutional in America, Pakistan, Saudi Arabia, India and every country in the world


Intro

The Mirza family is a sick dynasty comparable to the Kim Dynasty in North Korea.  The Mirza family has been seeking its own state/country since 1947 and has gotten lots of help from the British.  This pledge which is forced upon all Ahmadi’s as soon as they turn 15 and is unconstitutional to any country in the world .  It basically forces young Ahmadi’s to recite their allegiance to the Mirza family, over and over and over again, its level-1 brainwashing.  Similarly, in North Korea, China and the trump administration, people are forced to recite their pledge of allegiance often, and thus the brainwashing is complete.  This is why Ahmadi’s can never be trusted, they are working behind the scenes to help advance the political objectives of the Mirza family and eventually acquire their own country.

Can Pakistani’s trust anyone who isn’t totally loyal to Pakistan?
https://ahmadiyyafactcheckblog.com/2018/09/06/can-atifrmian-be-trusted-by-the-pakistani-government-and-muslim-people/

When was this pledge created?
It’s unclear when this pledge was created.  MKA was created in 1938.  There are also by-laws and a set of rules for MKA, its origination is also unknown.

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Was Ahmadiyya created by the British?
As we all know, in the art of War, nations find minority groups in any given country and support them and put them into power.  The USA has done this many times over, they have also installed puppet governments into power and then removed them as needed.

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Responding to ahmadi.answers.com in terms of MGA leading Salat, which he never did


Intro

I am writing this entry as I refute the silly counter argument by the unofficial website ahmadianswers.com.  Razi, who is the only author of the website seems to have seen my argument many months ago and then wrote a response.  However, in his response, he contradicts himself many times, practices academic dishonesty and refuses to comment on the the most credible witness and report.  He then quotes 3 references from Seeratul Mahdi and then doesn’t comment on them at all, nor does he highlight any text from these references.  In the below, I will give the timeline of arguments on this topic, as well as the Ahmadi spin doctors and their methodology.

1903 era
By 1903, it was obvious that MGA was not leading any prayers at Qadian or anywhere else.  In fact, look at these references:

Malfuzat from 1903
It should be noted, this volume of Malfuzat was Published in Rabwah, 1961, in Urdu, covering the period from November 1901 to October 14, 1902 (see page xl).

Malfoozat 21-oct-1903 . Vol. 3 by Mirza Ghulam Ahamd Qadyani (also reported in Al-badar ) says

“Regarding leading in prayers , one guy question that why hazrat do not lead the prayers ? Answered that it is written in hadees that Maseeh that has to come will pray behind others “

The scans

Another reference that proves that MGA never led Salaat

(Malfoozat, Volume 2, Page 211-212)

“”Look, we also take advantage of this leniency as it has been almost two months that we have been combining the prayers. This is because of the reason of my sickness, and because of the writing of the commentary of Surah Fatiha. In the combining of these prayers, the hadith وَتُجْمَعُ لَهُ الصَّلاةُ is being fulfilled which means that the prayers will be combined for the sake of The Promised Messiahas. From this we also infer that at the time of The Promised Messiahas, he will not lead the prayers, but it will be someone else.This Imam will combine the prayers for the sake of The Promised Messiahas, and this is what is happening today. The days we cannot come due to increased sickness, the prayers are combined during these days and we infer from the words of this hadith that it was through love that The Holy Prophetsaw said that ‘it will happen for his sake’. It should be that we look upon the prophecies of The Holy Prophetsaw with great respect and importance and should not be careless of them, otherwise it is will be of great sin that we look down upon the prophecies of The Holy Prophetsaw. God Almighty created the reason by which the prayers were being combined for so long, otherwise this would only be for two days and it would not be a sign. We respect every world and letter of The Holy Prophetsaw. “”

The earliest sources prove that it was common knowledge to all ahmadi’s who visited Qadian, that MGA didn’t lead any salat, nor did he ever lead a Friday Sermon.  
This is proven.  Then, we have the tesimony from MGA’s wife:

qarchives.com/misc/Seeratul_Mahdi_1.pdf
pdf page 20 of 296
Narration no. 19

” My mother narrated to me that mgaq got first attack of dizziness and hysteria few days after the death of Bashir 1 (we had an elder brother who died in 1888). While sleeping he got choked and then condition woresned but that attack was light. Then after some time (few days) he went out saying that I am not feeling well today. Mother said after some time sheikh Hamid Ali ( he was an old sincere servent of mgaq, he is dead now) knocked at the door and asked for a pitcher of hot water. Mother said, I knew that mgaq’s condition is worsened, so I asked a maid to ask him (sh hamid) about mgaq’s condition. Sh Hamid Ali said its bad. I went inside the mosque and saw mgaq lying. I went near him he said- I m not feeling well. I was praying and saw something black raised in front of me and went up to sky. Then I screamed and fell down and became like fainted. Mother says that after that he started getting these attacks on REGULAR BASIS. This humble one asked what was attack like, she said that his hands and feet got cold, body nerves got shrunk specially neck’s and then dizziness started. In that condition, he was unable to support his body. In the beginning, these attacks / seizures were svere but later on there was no such severity and he became used to that.

Humble one asked, did he ever get any problem with his head? Mother said, before he used to get nominal headache attacks. Humble one asked, did he use to lead the prayers, mother said yes, but due to attacks he stopped. Humble one states that was before the claim of being Massiah. ”

Razi totally ignores these references
In classic Ahmadi fashion, the owner of the ahmadi.answers website doesn’t even consider this data when he wrote his essay.  That is academic dishonesty.

Another important quote which proves that MGA never led salat

The Quote
SEERATUL MAHDI PART-III PAGE 111
“””Stated to me by Dr. Mir Muhammad Ismail that once Due to some reasons Molvi Abdul Karim could not lead the prayers, Molvi Nooruddin was also not present, so Hazrat Sahab ( MGAQ) asked Hakeem Fazluddin to lead the prayer. Hakeem Fazluddin excused to offer the services by saying how can i lead the prayer when huzur know that i have been suffering from PILES and can,t maintain my ablution (WAZU) due to gaseous emissions all the time. Huzur asked hakeem Fazluddin, are your prayers valid despite the problem? He said yes they are valid. Then lead the prayer , our prayer will also be valid said hazrat sahab”””

The scan work
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Razi mentions three references from Seeratul Mahdi
Sirat-ul-Mahdi Volume 1 Page 15
…”I was leading the prayers when…”

Sirat ul Mahdi, volume 1, Page 21
 “…(someone) relates that once when Maulvi Sahib (Nuruddin r.a.) had left Qadian, I came for Maghrib salaat, whereupon I saw the Promised Messiah a.s. himself leading the prayer. … Hadhrat Sahib recited two short Surahs but people were crying out of (the) melting & sorrow (in their hearts) …”

Sirat ul Mahdi, Volume 1, Page 530—

” p. 530 states: in the beginning, the Promised Messiah a.s. used the lead the salaat himself in Masjid Mubarak. One person would stand on his right side, & only 4-5 followers could stand behind…”

What do these 3 references prove?
Firstly, the data in inconclusive and is presented out of context.  We don’t what years these are referring to.  These could be before 1888 and hence, it proves our point that MGA never led salat after 1888.  Before 1888, we agree that MGA may have accidentally led salat in front of 4-5 people (his inner circle), wherein MGA’s speech was unintelligible and no one dared to say anything to him.  MGA was not a proper imam and that’s why he appointed Abdul Karim and Noorudin as Imam’s.

The hadith that Razi presents
Firstly, this entire argument comes from the old ahmadi sources, not Razi.  Further, it is academic dishonesty to use this argument, i.e. that MGA didn’t lead salat because of hadith.  We are not denying that MGA may have led salat before 1888 in front of kids or old people.  The reality is that Esa (as) when he would descend would be ignorant of Arabic, and the quran, hence, he would be asked to lead salat and he would defer.  Esa (as) and the Mahdi are 2 separate people per 99% of islamic scholars.  The Mahdi would be an Arab with a good command of Arabic and a wonderful voice.  Ahmadiyya leaders are mixing the true purport of a hadith and twisting it to cover-up the fact that MGA was high on opium all day and was incapable of leading salat or even teaching Islam to his own children.  In fact, at Qadian, people would visit and mistake Abdul Karim as MGA, since Abdul Karim would lead the salat with MGA on his right side.

MGA led salat with someone on his right side?
Sirat ul Mahdi, Volume 1, Page 530 and other references seem to indicate that MGA would stand to the right of the imam, and thus give the impression that he was leading salat, when in reality, he wasn’t.  If you look closely at the small prayer hall in masjid mubarak, you will notice that the place for the imam actually has place for 2 people, and MGA would regularly find himself to the right of whomever was leading the salat.

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Mirza Basheer-uddin Mahmud Ahmad never wrote any books or never penned any articles

Intro
Just like his father, Mirza Basheer-uddin Mahmud Ahmad barely wrote anything.  Even in the Talim-ul-Islam school of Qadian, the Ahmadi-mullahs passed him even when he failed.  He stared the Tashhiz al-Azhan magazine in 1906 and was allowed to create his own sub-organization within Ahmadiyya, the Ansarullah.  The friends and well wishers of the Mian Sahib wrote for him and on his behalf.  In fact, in that same era, and in response to an argument by Muhammad Ali, the Qadiani-Khalifa seems to admit that his own newspaper, the Tashhiz al-Azhan continued to write the name Mirza Basheer-uddin Mahmud Ahmad as the editor of the newspaper (as late as 1913), even though he was not, he claims that he had no connection with his own newspaper since 1911.  Further, Mirza Basheer-uddin Mahmud Ahmad never wrote any books either, he dictated what needed to be written and then proof read it or had another mullah proof read it.  This even holds true for those commentaries of the Quran that Mirza Basheer-uddin Mahmud Ahmad takes credit for, which are incomplete.

The quote
“””In the first place, the words of Maulawi Muhammad Ahsan possess no special authority. They may be regarded as possessing the same value as the words of any other learned man. In the second place, the publication of his article in the Tashhidhul Adhhan cannot lend any special value to the views expressed therein, because the article was published in October, 1913, when I had already for two years ceased to have any active connection with the magazine. At that time Qazi Muhammad Zahuruddin Akmal was the de facto editor of the Magazine. The managing body of the paper, however, continued to print my name on the cover in order to retain its popularity, inasmuch as it was I who had been editing it since its foundation. Under the circumstances, if any particular view was at that time published in the magazine, it cannot justly be cited against me. I was not then its active editor nor were the articles published in the magazine shown to me whether in original or in proof.””””  (See “Truth about the split”, online edition, page 125,https://www.alislam.org/library/book/the-truth-about-the-split/ ).  

Ahmadi teachers at the Talim ul Islam High School were corrupt, they would pass Mirza Basheer-uddin Mahmud Ahmad, even when he failed

Intro
Ahmadiyya is a total fraud.  MGA and his family were all dummies and idiots who had no academic ability at all.  MGA’s precious “promised-son” aka Musleh Maud was a bad child, he never did anything good in his whole life, he lived the life of the son of a prophet, and indulged in women, men, drugs and everything Haraam.  In this specific reference, we have found Ahmadi-Mullahs admitting that they falsified records and passed Mirza Basheer-uddin Mahmud Ahmad even when he failed in school.  He was a student at the newly built Talim ul Islam School at Qadian, which was shut down by 1904 and never officially re-started until 1947, in Lahore.   It should be understood that Middle = eighth class age would be, about 13-14 years. Next level in pakistan, after 2 years – is interence = age of 15-16 years. another 2 years of study = FA. And another 2 years of study =BA

The story

Alfazal 2 October 1935

“””At the occasion of Nikah of Mirza Mahmood to Maryam Sidiqa daughter of Mir Mohammed Ismaeel(brother of nusrat) Mufti M Sadiq announces the Nikah and it is a long one but on page 2 Mufti sadiq says (Masih Maood instructed me to learn Ibrani Language. There was written in sacred books of Ibrani, that first Masih did not marry (Hazrat eisa AS) but 2nd masih will marry and will have siblings, and his son will be his successor. Since that time i knew that you shall be Khalifa. People who rejected your khilafat are very unfortunate. Today blessings of Khilafat are appearing like the sun. Today, for the propagation of Islam, the missionaries are spread in all the countries, and the work is done in such a way, Islamic history of thousand years cannot show that example. All this is being achieved with the blessing of that one pure soul (mirza ghulam). Allah granted everything to you himself. Hazrat Masih was not student of any one. The same away you (mirza mahmood) were not student of any teacher. There is not doubt that you used to go to school, and you were my (mufti sadiq) student too, I was the headmaster in those days or moulvi sher Ali was the headmaster (here mufti sadiq is not sure who was the head master) you used to come to school those days, but you would FAIL every year but we used to promote you to the next year because you were the son of hazrat masih maood. You took an exam of Middle and i went with you, but you fail, then you took an exam of interenc and again you failed”””

The scans

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