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MGA never led Salaat in his entire life!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Intro
For the past 2 years, my team of writers/researchers and I have continuously told Ahmadis and Non-Ahmadis that MGA was incapable of leading Salaat.  MGA spoke with a terrible stutter/stammer, he could never properly memorize any chapters of the Quran, he was always high on opium, his Arabic tajweed was terrible-he had a Punjabee accent as he spoke in Arabic.  Thus, ever since MGA attended his father’s Masjid Aqsa, there was a hired Imam who led the prayers.  Further, in 1884, when MGA had Masjid Mubarak built, MGA hired an Imam.  After MGA made his claims in 1891, Abdul Karim, Maulvi Ahsan, Nooruddin, Mufti Muhammad Sadiq or any other Muslim would lead the prayers, the same was to be said about the Masjid Aqsa, these were the two only masjids in Qadian.  In the below, I have posted “new-information” on this topic, per 12-9-17.  My team has located the Malfuzat of 1903 wherein an excuse was given by Ahmadiyya leadership as to why MGA never led salaat, they went so far as to argue that the Messiah wasn’t supposed to lead Salaat per hadith. However, they casually forget that MGA also claimed to be the Mahdi, and the Mahdi was supposed to lead Salaat, hence, MGA has failed the most basic criteria of the Mahdi, the leading of Salaat.  In fact, while MGA would perform Salaat, his fanatical followers were known to approach MGA (during salaat) and stroke his body sexually.

Further, we have argued with Ahmadis on this topic endlessly, the hard-core Ahmadi never admitted that MGA failed to be an Imam even once in his life, they would always deflect our allegations, and in typical brainwashed fashion.  However, with this reference, the story is now closed and confirmed.  MGA never led Salaat in his entire life.  This particular incident was also quoted in the official Ahmadi newspaper, the Badr.

Malfuzat from 1903
It should be noted, this volume of Malfuzat was Published in Rabwah, 1961, in Urdu, covering the period from November 1901 to October 14, 1902 (see page xl).

Malfoozat 21-oct-1903 . Vol. 3 by Mirza Ghulam Ahamd Qadyani (also reported in Al-badar ) says

“Regarding leading in prayers , one guy question that why hazrat do not lead the prayers ? Answered that it is written in hadees that Maseeh that has to come will pray behind others “

The scans

Another reference that proves that MGA never led Salaat

(Malfoozat, Volume 2, Page 211-212)

“”Look, we also take advantage of this leniency as it has been almost two months that we have been combining the prayers. This is because of the reason of my sickness, and because of the writing of the commentary of Surah Fatiha. In the combining of these prayers, the hadith وَتُجْمَعُ لَهُ الصَّلاةُ is being fulfilled which means that the prayers will be combined for the sake of The Promised Messiahas. From this we also infer that at the time of The Promised Messiahas, he will not lead the prayers, but it will be someone else. This Imam will combine the prayers for the sake of The Promised Messiahas, and this is what is happening today. The days we cannot come due to increased sickness, the prayers are combined during these days and we infer from the words of this hadith that it was through love that The Holy Prophetsaw said that ‘it will happen for his sake’. It should be that we look upon the prophecies of The Holy Prophetsaw with great respect and importance and should not be careless of them, otherwise it is will be of great sin that we look down upon the prophecies of The Holy Prophetsaw. God Almighty created the reason by which the prayers were being combined for so long, otherwise this would only be for two days and it would not be a sign. We respect every world and letter of The Holy Prophetsaw. “”

qarchives.com/misc/Seeratul_Mahdi_1.pdf
pdf page 20 of 296
Narration no. 19

” My mother narrated to me that mgaq got first attack of dizziness and hysteria few days after the death of Bashir 1 (we had an elder brother who died in 1888). While sleeping he got choked and then condition woresned but that attack was light. Then after some time (few days) he went out saying that I am not feeling well today. Mother said after some time sheikh Hamid Ali ( he was an old sincere servent of mgaq, he is dead now) knocked at the door and asked for a pitcher of hot water. Mother said, I knew that mgaq’s condition is worsened, so I asked a maid to ask him (sh hamid) about mgaq’s condition. Sh Hamid Ali said its bad. I went inside the mosque and saw mgaq lying. I went near him he said- I m not feeling well. I was praying and saw something black raised in front of me and went up to sky. Then I screamed and fell down and became like fainted. Mother says that after that he started getting these attacks on REGULAR BASIS. This humble one asked what was attack like, she said that his hands and feet got cold, body nerves got shrunk specially neck’s and then dizziness started. In that condition, he was unable to support his body. In the beginning, these attacks / seizures were svere but later on there was no such severity and he became used to that.

Humble one asked, did he ever get any problem with his head? Mother said, before he used to get nominal headache attacks. Humble one asked, did he use to lead the prayers, mother said yes, but due to attacks he stopped. Humble one states that was before the claim of being Massiah. ”

MGA’s wife confirms that MGA never led salat after 1888
https://ahmadiyyafactcheckblog.com/2018/03/12/nusrat-jehan-begum-claims-that-mga-only-led-salaat-before-4-november-1888-never-after/

Mirza Ghulam Ahmad never led Salaat!!!!!!!

Intro
We all know that MGA never did any public speeches.  We also know that he only had 5-debates in his entire life and they were all written debates, and Noorudin was always close by as well as Abdul Kareem and the rest of the team.  Officially, as of 1891, Maulvi Abdul Kareem, Amrohi and Noorudin were the imams of the mosque at Qadian.  They led all the prayers, they did all the friday sermons and wrote all of the books.  Mufti Sadiq also helped.  As did Muhammad Ali later on and many many others.  Before 1891, MGA had other people lead the salaat, the father of Jalal-uddin-Shams comes to mind.

Nonetheless, MGA couldn’t memorize the quran and was mostly high on opium, so he could never lead prayers.  That’s what my research indicates.

The Quote
SEERATUL MAHDI PART-III PAGE 111
“””Stated to me by Dr. Mir Muhammad Ismail that once Due to some reasons Molvi Abdul Karim could not lead the prayers, Molvi Nooruddin was also not present, so Hazrat Sahab ( MGAQ) asked Hakeem Fazluddin to lead the prayer. Hakeem Fazluddin excused to offer the services by saying how can i lead the prayer when huzur know that i have been suffering from PILES and can,t maintain my ablution (WAZU) due to gaseous emissions all the time. Huzur asked hakeem Fazluddin, are your prayers valid despite the problem? He said yes they are valid. Then lead the prayer , our prayer will also be valid said hazrat sahab”””

The scan work
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Another quote
qarchives.com/misc/Seeratul_Mahdi_1.pdf
pdf page 20 of 296
Narration no. 19

” My mother narrated to me that mgaq got first attack of dizziness and hysteria few days after the death of Bashir 1 (we had an elder brother who died in 1888). While sleeping he got choked and then condition woresned but that attack was light. Then after some time (few days) he went out saying that I am not feeling well today. Mother said after some time sheikh Hamid Ali ( he was an old sincere servent of mgaq, he is dead now) knocked at the door and asked for a pitcher of hot water. Mother said, I knew that mgaq’s condition is worsened, so I asked a maid to ask him (sh hamid) about mgaq’s condition. Sh Hamid Ali said its bad. I went inside the mosque and saw mgaq lying. I went near him he said- I m not feeling well. I was praying and saw something black raised in front of me and went up to sky. Then I screamed and fell down and became like fainted. Mother says that after that he started getting these attacks on REGULAR BASIS. This humble one asked what was attack like, she said that his hands and feet got cold, body nerves got shrunk specially neck’s and then dizziness started. In that condition, he was unable to support his body. In the beginning, these attacks / seizures were svere but later on there was no such severity and he became used to that.

Humble one asked, did he ever get any problem with his head? Mother said, before he used to get nominal headache attacks. Humble one asked, did he use to lead the prayers, mother said yes, but due to attacks he stopped. Humble one states that was before the claim of being Massiah. “

Conclusions
MGA was not any type of Imam.  He hired Noorudin and his friends to write and lead prayers for him and to give speeches on this behalf.  Check my other essays on MGA and his lack of leading salaat here: https://ahmadiyyafactcheckblog.wordpress.com/2017/03/03/mirza-ghulam-ahmad-got-stroked-during-salaat/

 

Nusrat Jehan Begum claims that MGA only led Salaat before 4 November 1888, never after

Intro
Ahmadi’s are very stubborn people.  This is their biggest malfunction.  We have posted data on this blog for years indicating that MGA never led salaat for any congregation.  Ahmadi’s refused to believe it.  It was too much for them, they then began to argue that MGA did in-fact lead some salaat.  However, after some additional digging, we have uncovered that MGA never led salaat at least after Nov. 4th, 1888.  The testimony in the below proves that.  Further, MGA barely had any followers to lead salaat for before this date.  We suspect that he still never led salaat, and even if he did, it was in-front of small children or gullible peers who never tried to correct MGA when he made mistakes.

The quote

qarchives.com/misc/Seeratul_Mahdi_1.pdf
pdf page 20 of 296
Narration no. 19

”My mother narrated to me that mgaq got first attack of dizziness and hysteria few days after the death of Bashir 1 (we had an elder brother who died in 1888). While sleeping he got choked and then condition woresned but that attack was light. Then after some time (few days) he went out saying that I am not feeling well today. Mother said after some time sheikh Hamid Ali ( he was an old sincere servent of mgaq, he is dead now) knocked at the door and asked for a pitcher of hot water. Mother said, I knew that mgaq’s condition is worsened, so I asked a maid to ask him (sh hamid) about mgaq’s condition. Sh Hamid Ali said its bad. I went inside the mosque and saw mgaq lying. I went near him he said- I m not feeling well. I was praying and saw something black raised in front of me and went up to sky. Then I screamed and fell down and became like fainted. Mother says that after that he started getting these attacks on REGULAR BASIS. This humble one asked what was attack like, she said that his hands and feet got cold, body nerves got shrunk specially neck’s and then dizziness started. In that condition, he was unable to support his body. In the beginning, these attacks / seizures were svere but later on there was no such severity and he became used to that.

Humble one asked, did he ever get any problem with his head? Mother said, before he used to get nominal headache attacks. Humble one asked, did he use to lead the prayers, mother said yes, but due to attacks he stopped. Humble one states that was before the claim of being Massiah. ”

 

Responding to ahmadi.answers.com in terms of MGA leading Salat, which he never did


Intro

I am writing this entry as I refute the silly counter argument by the unofficial website ahmadianswers.com.  Razi, who is the only author of the website seems to have seen my argument many months ago and then wrote a response.  However, in his response, he contradicts himself many times, practices academic dishonesty and refuses to comment on the the most credible witness and report.  He then quotes 3 references from Seeratul Mahdi and then doesn’t comment on them at all, nor does he highlight any text from these references.  In the below, I will give the timeline of arguments on this topic, as well as the Ahmadi spin doctors and their methodology.

1903 era
By 1903, it was obvious that MGA was not leading any prayers at Qadian or anywhere else.  In fact, look at these references:

Malfuzat from 1903
It should be noted, this volume of Malfuzat was Published in Rabwah, 1961, in Urdu, covering the period from November 1901 to October 14, 1902 (see page xl).

Malfoozat 21-oct-1903 . Vol. 3 by Mirza Ghulam Ahamd Qadyani (also reported in Al-badar ) says

“Regarding leading in prayers , one guy question that why hazrat do not lead the prayers ? Answered that it is written in hadees that Maseeh that has to come will pray behind others “

The scans

Another reference that proves that MGA never led Salaat

(Malfoozat, Volume 2, Page 211-212)

“”Look, we also take advantage of this leniency as it has been almost two months that we have been combining the prayers. This is because of the reason of my sickness, and because of the writing of the commentary of Surah Fatiha. In the combining of these prayers, the hadith وَتُجْمَعُ لَهُ الصَّلاةُ is being fulfilled which means that the prayers will be combined for the sake of The Promised Messiahas. From this we also infer that at the time of The Promised Messiahas, he will not lead the prayers, but it will be someone else.This Imam will combine the prayers for the sake of The Promised Messiahas, and this is what is happening today. The days we cannot come due to increased sickness, the prayers are combined during these days and we infer from the words of this hadith that it was through love that The Holy Prophetsaw said that ‘it will happen for his sake’. It should be that we look upon the prophecies of The Holy Prophetsaw with great respect and importance and should not be careless of them, otherwise it is will be of great sin that we look down upon the prophecies of The Holy Prophetsaw. God Almighty created the reason by which the prayers were being combined for so long, otherwise this would only be for two days and it would not be a sign. We respect every world and letter of The Holy Prophetsaw. “”

The earliest sources prove that it was common knowledge to all ahmadi’s who visited Qadian, that MGA didn’t lead any salat, nor did he ever lead a Friday Sermon.  
This is proven.  Then, we have the tesimony from MGA’s wife:

qarchives.com/misc/Seeratul_Mahdi_1.pdf
pdf page 20 of 296
Narration no. 19

” My mother narrated to me that mgaq got first attack of dizziness and hysteria few days after the death of Bashir 1 (we had an elder brother who died in 1888). While sleeping he got choked and then condition woresned but that attack was light. Then after some time (few days) he went out saying that I am not feeling well today. Mother said after some time sheikh Hamid Ali ( he was an old sincere servent of mgaq, he is dead now) knocked at the door and asked for a pitcher of hot water. Mother said, I knew that mgaq’s condition is worsened, so I asked a maid to ask him (sh hamid) about mgaq’s condition. Sh Hamid Ali said its bad. I went inside the mosque and saw mgaq lying. I went near him he said- I m not feeling well. I was praying and saw something black raised in front of me and went up to sky. Then I screamed and fell down and became like fainted. Mother says that after that he started getting these attacks on REGULAR BASIS. This humble one asked what was attack like, she said that his hands and feet got cold, body nerves got shrunk specially neck’s and then dizziness started. In that condition, he was unable to support his body. In the beginning, these attacks / seizures were svere but later on there was no such severity and he became used to that.

Humble one asked, did he ever get any problem with his head? Mother said, before he used to get nominal headache attacks. Humble one asked, did he use to lead the prayers, mother said yes, but due to attacks he stopped. Humble one states that was before the claim of being Massiah. ”

Razi totally ignores these references
In classic Ahmadi fashion, the owner of the ahmadi.answers website doesn’t even consider this data when he wrote his essay.  That is academic dishonesty.

Another important quote which proves that MGA never led salat

The Quote
SEERATUL MAHDI PART-III PAGE 111
“””Stated to me by Dr. Mir Muhammad Ismail that once Due to some reasons Molvi Abdul Karim could not lead the prayers, Molvi Nooruddin was also not present, so Hazrat Sahab ( MGAQ) asked Hakeem Fazluddin to lead the prayer. Hakeem Fazluddin excused to offer the services by saying how can i lead the prayer when huzur know that i have been suffering from PILES and can,t maintain my ablution (WAZU) due to gaseous emissions all the time. Huzur asked hakeem Fazluddin, are your prayers valid despite the problem? He said yes they are valid. Then lead the prayer , our prayer will also be valid said hazrat sahab”””

The scan work
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Razi mentions three references from Seeratul Mahdi
Sirat-ul-Mahdi Volume 1 Page 15
…”I was leading the prayers when…”

Sirat ul Mahdi, volume 1, Page 21
 “…(someone) relates that once when Maulvi Sahib (Nuruddin r.a.) had left Qadian, I came for Maghrib salaat, whereupon I saw the Promised Messiah a.s. himself leading the prayer. … Hadhrat Sahib recited two short Surahs but people were crying out of (the) melting & sorrow (in their hearts) …”

Sirat ul Mahdi, Volume 1, Page 530—

” p. 530 states: in the beginning, the Promised Messiah a.s. used the lead the salaat himself in Masjid Mubarak. One person would stand on his right side, & only 4-5 followers could stand behind…”

What do these 3 references prove?
Firstly, the data in inconclusive and is presented out of context.  We don’t what years these are referring to.  These could be before 1888 and hence, it proves our point that MGA never led salat after 1888.  Before 1888, we agree that MGA may have accidentally led salat in front of 4-5 people (his inner circle), wherein MGA’s speech was unintelligible and no one dared to say anything to him.  MGA was not a proper imam and that’s why he appointed Abdul Karim and Noorudin as Imam’s.

The hadith that Razi presents
Firstly, this entire argument comes from the old ahmadi sources, not Razi.  Further, it is academic dishonesty to use this argument, i.e. that MGA didn’t lead salat because of hadith.  We are not denying that MGA may have led salat before 1888 in front of kids or old people.  The reality is that Esa (as) when he would descend would be ignorant of Arabic, and the quran, hence, he would be asked to lead salat and he would defer.  Esa (as) and the Mahdi are 2 separate people per 99% of islamic scholars.  The Mahdi would be an Arab with a good command of Arabic and a wonderful voice.  Ahmadiyya leaders are mixing the true purport of a hadith and twisting it to cover-up the fact that MGA was high on opium all day and was incapable of leading salat or even teaching Islam to his own children.  In fact, at Qadian, people would visit and mistake Abdul Karim as MGA, since Abdul Karim would lead the salat with MGA on his right side.

MGA led salat with someone on his right side?
Sirat ul Mahdi, Volume 1, Page 530 and other references seem to indicate that MGA would stand to the right of the imam, and thus give the impression that he was leading salat, when in reality, he wasn’t.  If you look closely at the small prayer hall in masjid mubarak, you will notice that the place for the imam actually has place for 2 people, and MGA would regularly find himself to the right of whomever was leading the salat.

Related Essays
https://ahmadiyyafactcheckblog.com/?s=never+led

https://ahmadiyyafactcheckblog.com/2017/08/03/islami-qurbani-by-qazi-yar-mohammed-1920-printed-at-riaz-e-hind-press-amritsar-district-kangra/

https://ahmadiyyafactcheckblog.com/2016/12/06/mirza-ghulam-ahmads-arabic-came-with-a-punjabee-accent/

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Mirza Ghulam Ahmad spoke with a terrible stutter and Ahmadiyya leadership lied about it..they called it a stammer

Intro
It seems that the more research that I do into the life of Mirza Ghulam Ahmad…the more details I find which give us a better understanding of the capacities of MGA.  In this specific case, it is reported in many of the early Ahmadi sources, like Seeratul Mahdi.  However, i recently found a book which is said to be written by Mirza Basheer-uddin Mahmud Ahmad, its a new addition to the library.  I’ve probably read every single english book on this website, plus the Lahori site.   Nonetheless, this book is entitled “The Ahmadiyya Movement” and was published from Qadian, India in 1976, as an english-book.  I must say, the truth is, Mahmud Ahmad never wrote much, he had his mullahs ready to write down his thoughts, they wrote all the books, newspaper articles, commentaries, and all the speeches, just like Mirza Masroor and the other Khalifas. Mirza Mahmud Ahmad was just like his father, he had a team of writers around him, ready to help.  Mirza Mahmud Ahmad may have been the editor, but he wasn’t writing much.  However, he did give speeches and took over giving the Friday Sermon in Qadian in roughly 1911.

MGA’s stuttering and stammering problem
Mirza Mahmud Ahmad tells us in this book that his father had a “stammering” problem.  Here is the quote, see page 23, Mahmud Ahmad claims that it was a slight stammer, however, it was much more then that as other facts will prove:

“”Again, it had been written that the Mahdi would be born in a village called Kadaa, and he was born in Qadian, which the common people call Kadia or Kadi. It had been written that he would be affected by a slight stammer in his speech, and so he was. Again, it was written that the Messiah would have whitish complexion and straight hair, and he possessed them both. It was
written that his marriage and the offspring through that marriage would be of prophetical bearing; and so it came to pass with him, that he was informed beforehand that…””

Mirza Tahir Ahmad tells us the same in 1985 See—An English translation of the Friday sermon delivered by Hadrat Mirza Tahir Ahmad, Khalifatul Masih IV on March 29, 1985 at the Fadl Mosque, London, see page 4

He quotes a newspaper from the al-fazl of 1938 as such

“””Mirza Sahib was not able to correctly pronounce Arabic words. He was not able to phonetically distinguish Arabic letters with similar sounds; for example, the letter ‘Qaf ’ versus ‘Kaf ’. Occasionally his audience would object, but Mirza Sahib was not able to say anything in his defence. (Qadiyaniyyat—A Grave Threat to Islam, p. 12, referencing an article appearing in al-Fadl, September 14, 1938)”””

Brief Commentary
Mirza Basheer-uddin Mahmud Ahmad told us through his official newspaper in 1938 that his father had lot of trouble with pronouncing Arabic, in fact, he was terrible at it. There are many other references which need to be added here which corroborate the story.

Mirza Tahir Ahmad throws Moses (as) under the bus and accuses him of stammering and stuttering
In classic-Ahmadi-style, Mirza Tahir Ahmad accuses Moses (as) of stuttering and stammering just like MGA, however, this is not true…it is not written that Moses (as) stuttered or stammered, it is written that he wasn’t as eloquent as Aaron (as).  He then goes on to quote other commentaries and references wherein it is states that the grandson of Muhammad (saw) stammered and etc.  However, what does this have to do with MGA’s inability to give speeches?  was Husain a prophet or an imam who needed to have the capacity to give speeches and etc?  The real story here is that MGA was a terrible stutterer and he never grew out of it…hence, other people led the salaat on his behalf and other people did all of the speeches and etc and all of the debates (only 4-5) were written debates.  Finally, after accepting that his grandfather did have some sort of speech impediment, he claims that the reference to the al-fazl is a total fabrication and thus he contradicts his entire line of argumentation and his entire argument collapses.

Sometimes Ahmadis quote this hadith
“”He will be slow of speech (a slight stutter) and when he is delayed, he will strike his left thigh with his right hand.” (Al-Isha’ah)”””

What is this book?
The full name of the book is “Al-Ishāáh li Ashrāť as-Sāáh” [The Promulgation: of the Signs of the Hour] by Muhammad al-Barzanji.  He seems to be a huge scholar from Medina.  However, in this case, his work is still in arabic and it doesn’t exist on the internet, hence we have a problem fact checking Ahmadis on this.  Nonetheless, we need to see the book and that exact page, before we comment.  Further, this quotation doesnt even reveal who this person is….is it the Mahdi?  The Messiah?  There is absolutely no indication.  I would suspect another classic case of “Ahmadi-mis-quotation” and “Ahmadi-intentional-tampering” and “mis-representing” of sources.

Al-Barzanji wrote a book on the Miraj
This is an interesting book…i’m sure that he wrote that the Miraj was physical.  Nonetheless, this source remains unchecked.  The Mutazalites had challenged the physicality of the Miraj 1000+ years ago.  It was a dead issue for a looooong time, which proves that Sir Syed and Noorudin and MGA only denied it since they were denying all miracles and they must have thought that 20th century science was the limit of human advancement, they were wrong, Einstein came along and changed that….and since Einstein, we have advanced 10-fold at least.

Some conclusions
MGA’s followers spent their entire lives covering up the life of MGA.  They make these offensive and rude parallels and brainwash each other to believe these silly arguments.  The truth is….all the people who immediately surrounded MGA knew that MGA was a liability.  They knew that MGA was incapable of being an Imam, they only tempted him to make these audacious claims since he had gotten rich overnight when his brother died in 1883.  In the case of MGA’s speech impediment, he had a terrible stuttering and stammering problem, this is the main reason why he never gave a public speech or never gave a friday sermon.  What’s alarming however, is the fact that the inner circle of Ahmadiyya leadership knew the truth….yet they purposely hid it.

Tiryaq-e-Ilahi never worked on anyone…it was just a super-opium drug….


Intro

MGA and Noorudin played with opium their entire lives.  They took medicines that had soooooo much opium in them that a human isn’t capable of leading salaat, doing public speeches or any other things…in fact, MGA was sooooo high, he would sit in his room all day and do nothing…..this is why he was always sitting around aimlessly.  In fact, MGA had soooo many digestive problems as a result of eating opium that he was forced to keep many bathroom attendants, who would tend to MGA all day and all night, they would clean up MGA’s feces and piss and then clean MGA, as we all know, MGA’s right arm was broken since he was a child, he thus couldn’t even clean himself after his sloppy excretions.

The scan work

Translation
STORY OF SEERATUL MAHDI PAGE 731 PART -III.
(798) DR MIR MUHAMMAD ISMAIL SB STATED TO ME THAT DURING THE EPIDEMIC OF PLAGUE, HAZRAT SB FORMULATED A MEDICINE CALLED AS TIRYAQ E ILAHI. Hazrat khalifa awwal presented a large bag of rubies,(YAQOOT)
All these rubies were grinded and added to the medicine, peoples were grinding and crushing and HAZRAT SB WOULD ADD THE INGREDIENTS IN IT. HAZRAT SB BROUGHT A BIG CAN OF QOUNINE AND HE EMPTIED INTO IT. THEN HE BROGHT A BOTTLE OF WINEM EPICOCK AND ADDED INTO IT. HE ADDED ALL DESI, AND ENGLISH MEDICINES IN THE FORMULATION SO MUCH THAT HAZRAT KHALIFA AWWAL SAID THAT THIS MEDICINE HAS NOTHING EFFECTIVE IN TERMS OF MEDICAL SCIENCE MAY BE IT COULD WORK ON SPIRITUAL GROUND. WHOEVER COMES TO HAZRAT, FOR ANY COMPLAINT, HAZRAT SAHIB WOULD GIVE THIS TIRYAQ E ILAHI TO HIM IRRESPECTIVE OF HIS DISEASE. PEOPLE FROM
PLAGUE AFFECTED AREAS COME AND DEMAND HAZRAT SB FOR THIS SO MUCH SO THAT A MAN COMPLAINED FOR INFERTILITY SEXUAL WEAKNESS HAZRAT GAVE TIRYAQ E ILAHI TO HIM PRAYED FOR HIM AND SOON HE GOT ONE CHILD. A CANISTER FILLED OF TIRYAQ E ILAHI WAS LYING AT HOME HAS CONSUMED IN THIS WAY. HAZRAT SB DID NOT SHOW MISERY IN GIVING THIS TO PEOPLES. ALTHOUGH IT CONTAINED YAQOOT WORTH RS 2000/-

Mirza Ghulam Ahmad never fasted during Ramadhan

Intro
Ahmadis are in the business of lying on behalf of the Mirza family, they lie about everything, they knew that MGA never led Salaat, never led Friday Khutbah, and never gave public speeches and never fasted during ramadhan.  In fact, in 1904, he had the gall to drink with his left hand in front of a hostile gathering of Muslims and had to be escorted out by the British police.

The quote
“””“Hazrat Amajan(ra) narrated to me that when Hazrat Masih-e-Maud(as) began to have attacks, (these attacks have been further qualified in the context of the statement as of headache and cold feet syndrome) in that year, he did not fast throughout the Ramadhan and paid the fidya. On the commencement of the Ramadhan during the second year, he started to observe the fast but after eight or nine days, the attacks began again and therefore he stopped and paid the fidya. The following year, he had fasted for ten or eleven days but on account of these attacks, he had to stop fasting again and he paid the fidya. The year after, it was the thirteenth fast when he had an attack around the time of Maghrib and he had to break it. He did not fast during the rest of the Ramadhan that year but he paid the fidya. After this, he observed all the fasts during Ramadhans, except during the last two or three years before his death” (Ahmad, Mirza Bashir, Seeratul Mahdi, Volume 1, Pages 51-52″”””

Dr. Mir Muhammad Ismail (MGA’s brother-in-law) was fooled about MGA leading Tarawee or Tahujjad

Intro
We all know that MGA never led Salaat, not even on accident, not even in a very small gathering of children, MGA was not even the imam at Qadian during the time of his father, as we all know, MGA’s father hired the father of Jalal-ud-din Shams to lead the Salaat at his Aqsa mosque, which was a 5 minute walk from the Palace of the Mirza family.  MGA had the Masjid Mubarak built after his father died and it was basically his private office.  He would allow his closest followers to come in and pray with him.  The area for the imam was hidden, it was a cut out into the wall and opened up into an area for 3-4 people.  As Mirza Masroor Ahmad told us, MGA would stand in that room, to the right of the imam, and some of his super-obsessive followers would enter and stroke MGA’s body during salaat.  In other narration in Seeratul Mahdi, MGA’s same brother-in-law narrates a story that gives the reader the impression that MGA always avoided being the imam to any prayers.  What probably happened in this scenario was that MGA’s brother-in-law, who was only 14-15 at the time, he was fooled to think that MGA was leading Taraweeh or Tahujjad, which are obviously 2 separate prayers, maybe MGA substituted one for the other??  Further, MGA would eat til the adhan was even over, which is also objectionable.  And where was the Abdul Kareem?  Or Nooruddin at the same time??  What about Ahsan Amrohi??  As we all know, there were barely 20 Ahmadis who lived in Qadian, so there was no need for the Masjid Aqsa to even be opened…all of this activity happened in closed-quarters, aka MGA’s office aka Masjid Mubarak.

The data
“””(320) Dr. Mir Muhammad Ismail ne bayan kia mujh se k 1895. Mein mujhe tamam ramzan qadiyan mein rehne ka itefaq huwa. Aur mein ne tamam mahina tahajjud yani taraveh ki namaz hazrat sb k peche ada ki. Aap ki ye adat thi k witar awwal shab mein ada karte aur namaz e tahujjud 8 rakaat do do kar k akhir shab mein ada karte,  Jis mein ap hamesha pehli rakaat mein Ayat al kursi parha karte the.dosri rakaat mein surah Ikhlas ki qirat farmate the. Aur ruku aur sujud mein ya hayyu ya qayyum aksar parha karte the. Aisi awaz se parhte the jo mein suna karta tha. Ap hamesha sehri tahjjud ke baad khate the aur is mein itni takhir farmate the k baaz dafa khate khate azan ho jati thi.”””

The scan

The truth about Lecture Lahore by Mirza Ghulam Ahmad

Intro
Dear readers, MGA never led a Khutbah Juma, he never led salaat after 1888 (and even before, only for old women and little kids possibly), he never did any public speeches either.  Ahmadiyya INC turned the lectures of Maulvi Abdul Karim in different cities into books wherein they give MGA credit for giving speeches and etc.  However, its a total lie.  In today’s expose’, we are highlighting Lecture Lahore.

Per the earliest Ahmadiyya sources, MGA gave this speech
Per the Review of Religions for Oct-Nov 1904, they tell us that MGA gave this speech to over 10,000 people.  It was titled, “The teaching of Islam and their contrast with other religions”.  There are 2 other essays from this edition of the ROR that are combined to create Lecture Lahore.
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When did they finally admit that Maulvi Abdul Karim gave the lecture?
In 1967, after the death of Mirza Basheer-uddin Mahmud Ahmad, an old book of his was republished.  In this book, he writes that the entire speech was published and circulated among the people of Lahore and that Maulvi Abdul Kareem gave the speech, not MGA.

The British military was there also, giving MGA protection
MGA seems to have always moved around British-India with the full support of the British military.  Even in 1891, MGA narrowly escaped the crowds of Muslims who wanted to kill him, only because of British support.

In 2008, it was named Lecture Lahore
It was Mirza Masroor Ahmad who decided to turn these speeches by Maulvi Abdul Karim into the book called Lecture Lahore.

Related Essays
https://ahmadiyyafactcheckblog.com/2018/03/19/mirza-ghulam-ahmad-had-5-written-debates-no-oral-debates/

The Lahori-Ahmadi’s also created Lecture Lahore as a book
In a very interesting twist, the Lahori-Ahmadi’s seem to have also followed the Qadiani’s and created this book.  See here: http://aaiil.org/text/books/mga/lecturelahore/lecturelahore.shtml
They also write as follows:

This discourse was delivered by Hazrat Mirza Ghulam Ahmad, the chief of Qadian, on 3 September 1904 at Lahore and was published by the Anjuman Furqania Lahore through Mian Maraj-ud-Din Omar, General Contractor and Secretary of the Anjuman, and Sheikh Nur Muhammad Munshi Alam, Proprietor of Hamdam-e-Sehat Lahore, for the benefit of the general public at its Rafah-e-Am Steam Press Lahore.

Today, 27 August 1904, I read in the daily Paisa Akhbar that a certain Hakim Mirza Mahmood Irani, who is residing in Lahore, is also a follower of a person who is said to have claims to messiahship as well, and Hakim Sahib desires to contest with me in that context. I regret that due to my overwhelming engagements, I cannot accede to his request because tomorrow, Saturday, is the public gathering which had been previously arranged, and on Sunday I have to proceed to Gurdaspur in connection with a court case, and my appearance in the court is a must. I have been in Lahore for the last twelve days. During this time, no such request was made to me, and now that I have to leave and I have not a minute to spare, I am confronted with this untimely request. I do not understand what is the intention and objective of making this untimely approach, but I have a suggestion which could be helpful to arrive at a positive decision.

Tomorrow, 3 September, I have to read my paper at the general gathering, and this paper will be published in the Paisa Akhbar as well. I request Hakim Sahib to publish his discourse countering my points in the said daily, and the public would thereby decide for themselves after reading both articles which of the two has better arguments favouring the truth and the right path and which of the articles is devoid of truth. I think this course would also be safe and conducive to public safety and general peace because it would not be prone to raise public commotion which has become a possibility nowadays in religious debates. I believe this suggestion should be acceptable, because in my discourse no direct reference would be made to Hakim Sahib and the discourse would be clear from any ill-feelings which sometime creep up due to such debates.

Mirza Ghulam Ahmad Qadiani

 

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