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MGA never led Salaat in his entire life!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

21:73 of the Quran clearly tells us that Prophets of Allah are leaders, and thus, should be leading prayers for the faithful (See Tafsir Ibn Kathir). For the past 2 years, my team of writers/researchers and I have continuously told Ahmadis and Non-Ahmadis that MGA was incapable of leading Salaat, this was mostly because of his constant fits of hysteria/schizophrenia. MGA also spoke with a terrible stutter/stammer, and he could never properly memorize any chapters of the Quran and he was always high on opium and his Arabic tajweed was terrible and he had a Punjabee accent. MGA was never in wudhu either, since he had a terrible problem with urinating and diarrhea, he also claimed to be clad in two yellow garments, thus giving us a picture of how he looked, one more thing, we have no records of MGA ever taking a bath or doing wudhu. Further, in 1884, when MGA had Masjid Mubarak built, MGA hired an Imam. MGA’s wife confirms that MGA never led salat after 1888. In reality, he never led salaat before 1888 either. MGA’s wife suffered from the same conditions.

After MGA made his claim to be the Messiah in 1891, Abdul Karim, Maulvi Ahsan Amrohi, Nooruddin, Mufti Muhammad Sadiq or any other Ahmadi would lead the prayers, the same was to be said about the Masjid Aqsa, these were the two only masjids in Qadian. In fact, while MGA would perform Salaat, his fanatical followers were known to approach MGA (during salaat) and stroke his body sexually. Continue reading “MGA never led Salaat in his entire life!!!!!!!!!!!!!!”

Nusrat Jehan Begum claims that MGA only led Salaat before 4 November 1888, never after

Ahmadi’s are very stubborn people. This is their biggest malfunction. We have posted data on this blog for years indicating that MGA never led salaat for any congregation. Ahmadi’s refused to believe it. It was too much for them, they then began to argue that MGA did in-fact lead some salaat. However, after some additional digging, we have uncovered that MGA never led salaat at after Nov. 4th, 1888 for sure. The testimony in the below proves that.  Further, MGA barely had any followers to lead salaat for before this date. We suspect that he still never led salaat, and even if he did, it was in-front of small children or gullible peers who never tried to correct MGA when he made mistakes. Listen to Dr. Holy Spirit’s explanation of MGA would scream and fall herein.
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Mirza Ghulam Ahmad’s father never read Salaat in his entire life

Mirza Ghulam Ahmad grew up in a very irreligious household. His father Mirza Ghulam Murtaza never read prayers in his life, likewise, none of his sons read salaat either. There was no mosque in Qadian until 1876, wherein MGA’s father died that same year. In fact, when MGA’s eldest brother got married, they arranged for 22 dancing girls to be brought to Qadian to entertain their guests. In the quote in the below, we have the proof, from MGA’s eldest son, who knew his grandfather intimately, in fact, his grandfather raised him, he wouldnt let MGA teach him anything. Co-incidentally, MGA never led prayers in his life, nor did he ever deliver a Khutbah Juma. As a kid, MGA never went to any masjid and never prayed in congregation.

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MGA’s father was a crook
Adapted from The Review of Religions, April 1939, Vol. XXXVIII, No. 4

Forefathers of the Promised Messiah(as)

“””Once in a dream Mirza Ghulam Murtaza saw the Holy Prophet(saw) coming in state to his house. He ran to receive the Holy Prophet(saw) and thought of offering Nazar, an Eastern  form  of  homage  similar to the oblation of gold, frank incense, and myrrh, offered to Christ by the Wise Men of the East. When, however, he put his hand into his pocket, he found that he had only one rupee and that it was a counterfeit coin. This brought tears in his eyes and then he woke up. This he interpreted to mean that the love of God and His Prophet(saw), mixed with the love of this world, is nothing better than a false coin.”””

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Mirza Ghulam Ahmad never paid Zakat

Ahmadi’s run around on social media making arguments for Ahmadiyya, however, they know nothing, they have never done any substantial homework in Islam or Ahmadiyya. I recently had an Ahmadi argue that chanda was the same as Zakat. He has been brainwashed to believe as such, its not his fault, but the problem is, he never double checks the Ahmadi mullahs who serve these lies to him constantly. Nevertheless, MGA never paid Zakat and never even paid Sadaqa, he never gave any money to any islamic organizations in British-India, instead he forced his followers to pay him heavily. In fact, MGA never fasted during ramadhan and never paid any fidya (eid tax for the poor).

The reference
“Doctor Mir Muhammad Ismail Saheb narrated to me that hazrat Promised Messiah never performed Hajj, never gave Zakat, never sat in Etikaf (extra worship during the last 10 nights of the month of Ramadhan), never kept a Tasbih and in my presence he refused to eat tropical sand lizard…  This humble self submits… he probably sat in Etikaf before his commissioning. Later on, he did not do Etikaf because of the pen crusades he waged and other engagements… And he did not give Zakat because it never accrued to him.” (Seerat-ul-Mahdi, Vol. 3, P. 119; by Mirza Bashir Ahmad)

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Responding to in terms of MGA leading Salat, which he never did


I am writing this entry as I refute the silly counter argument by the unofficial website  Razi, who is the only author of the website seems to have seen my argument many months ago and then wrote a response.  However, in his response, he contradicts himself many times, practices academic dishonesty and refuses to comment on the the most credible witness and report.  He then quotes 3 references from Seeratul Mahdi and then doesn’t comment on them at all, nor does he highlight any text from these references.  In the below, I will give the timeline of arguments on this topic, as well as the Ahmadi spin doctors and their methodology.

1903 era
By 1903, it was obvious that MGA was not leading any prayers at Qadian or anywhere else.  In fact, look at these references:

Malfuzat from 1903
It should be noted, this volume of Malfuzat was Published in Rabwah, 1961, in Urdu, covering the period from November 1901 to October 14, 1902 (see page xl).

Malfoozat 21-oct-1903 . Vol. 3 by Mirza Ghulam Ahamd Qadyani (also reported in Al-badar ) says

“Regarding leading in prayers , one guy question that why hazrat do not lead the prayers ? Answered that it is written in hadees that Maseeh that has to come will pray behind others “

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Another reference that proves that MGA never led Salaat

(Malfoozat, Volume 2, Page 211-212)

“”Look, we also take advantage of this leniency as it has been almost two months that we have been combining the prayers. This is because of the reason of my sickness, and because of the writing of the commentary of Surah Fatiha. In the combining of these prayers, the hadith وَتُجْمَعُ لَهُ الصَّلاةُ is being fulfilled which means that the prayers will be combined for the sake of The Promised Messiahas. From this we also infer that at the time of The Promised Messiahas, he will not lead the prayers, but it will be someone else.This Imam will combine the prayers for the sake of The Promised Messiahas, and this is what is happening today. The days we cannot come due to increased sickness, the prayers are combined during these days and we infer from the words of this hadith that it was through love that The Holy Prophetsaw said that ‘it will happen for his sake’. It should be that we look upon the prophecies of The Holy Prophetsaw with great respect and importance and should not be careless of them, otherwise it is will be of great sin that we look down upon the prophecies of The Holy Prophetsaw. God Almighty created the reason by which the prayers were being combined for so long, otherwise this would only be for two days and it would not be a sign. We respect every world and letter of The Holy Prophetsaw. “”

The earliest sources prove that it was common knowledge to all ahmadi’s who visited Qadian, that MGA didn’t lead any salat, nor did he ever lead a Friday Sermon.  
This is proven.  Then, we have the tesimony from MGA’s wife:
pdf page 20 of 296
Narration no. 19

” My mother narrated to me that mgaq got first attack of dizziness and hysteria few days after the death of Bashir 1 (we had an elder brother who died in 1888). While sleeping he got choked and then condition woresned but that attack was light. Then after some time (few days) he went out saying that I am not feeling well today. Mother said after some time sheikh Hamid Ali ( he was an old sincere servent of mgaq, he is dead now) knocked at the door and asked for a pitcher of hot water. Mother said, I knew that mgaq’s condition is worsened, so I asked a maid to ask him (sh hamid) about mgaq’s condition. Sh Hamid Ali said its bad. I went inside the mosque and saw mgaq lying. I went near him he said- I m not feeling well. I was praying and saw something black raised in front of me and went up to sky. Then I screamed and fell down and became like fainted. Mother says that after that he started getting these attacks on REGULAR BASIS. This humble one asked what was attack like, she said that his hands and feet got cold, body nerves got shrunk specially neck’s and then dizziness started. In that condition, he was unable to support his body. In the beginning, these attacks / seizures were svere but later on there was no such severity and he became used to that.

Humble one asked, did he ever get any problem with his head? Mother said, before he used to get nominal headache attacks. Humble one asked, did he use to lead the prayers, mother said yes, but due to attacks he stopped. Humble one states that was before the claim of being Massiah. ”

Razi totally ignores these references
In classic Ahmadi fashion, the owner of the ahmadi.answers website doesn’t even consider this data when he wrote his essay.  That is academic dishonesty.

Another important quote which proves that MGA never led salat

The Quote
“””Stated to me by Dr. Mir Muhammad Ismail that once Due to some reasons Molvi Abdul Karim could not lead the prayers, Molvi Nooruddin was also not present, so Hazrat Sahab ( MGAQ) asked Hakeem Fazluddin to lead the prayer. Hakeem Fazluddin excused to offer the services by saying how can i lead the prayer when huzur know that i have been suffering from PILES and can,t maintain my ablution (WAZU) due to gaseous emissions all the time. Huzur asked hakeem Fazluddin, are your prayers valid despite the problem? He said yes they are valid. Then lead the prayer , our prayer will also be valid said hazrat sahab”””

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Razi mentions three references from Seeratul Mahdi
Sirat-ul-Mahdi Volume 1 Page 15
…”I was leading the prayers when…”

Sirat ul Mahdi, volume 1, Page 21
 “…(someone) relates that once when Maulvi Sahib (Nuruddin r.a.) had left Qadian, I came for Maghrib salaat, whereupon I saw the Promised Messiah a.s. himself leading the prayer. … Hadhrat Sahib recited two short Surahs but people were crying out of (the) melting & sorrow (in their hearts) …”

Sirat ul Mahdi, Volume 1, Page 530—

” p. 530 states: in the beginning, the Promised Messiah a.s. used the lead the salaat himself in Masjid Mubarak. One person would stand on his right side, & only 4-5 followers could stand behind…”

What do these 3 references prove?
Firstly, the data in inconclusive and is presented out of context.  We don’t what years these are referring to.  These could be before 1888 and hence, it proves our point that MGA never led salat after 1888.  Before 1888, we agree that MGA may have accidentally led salat in front of 4-5 people (his inner circle), wherein MGA’s speech was unintelligible and no one dared to say anything to him.  MGA was not a proper imam and that’s why he appointed Abdul Karim and Noorudin as Imam’s.

The hadith that Razi presents
Firstly, this entire argument comes from the old ahmadi sources, not Razi.  Further, it is academic dishonesty to use this argument, i.e. that MGA didn’t lead salat because of hadith.  We are not denying that MGA may have led salat before 1888 in front of kids or old people.  The reality is that Esa (as) when he would descend would be ignorant of Arabic, and the quran, hence, he would be asked to lead salat and he would defer.  Esa (as) and the Mahdi are 2 separate people per 99% of islamic scholars.  The Mahdi would be an Arab with a good command of Arabic and a wonderful voice.  Ahmadiyya leaders are mixing the true purport of a hadith and twisting it to cover-up the fact that MGA was high on opium all day and was incapable of leading salat or even teaching Islam to his own children.  In fact, at Qadian, people would visit and mistake Abdul Karim as MGA, since Abdul Karim would lead the salat with MGA on his right side.

MGA led salat with someone on his right side?
Sirat ul Mahdi, Volume 1, Page 530 and other references seem to indicate that MGA would stand to the right of the imam, and thus give the impression that he was leading salat, when in reality, he wasn’t.  If you look closely at the small prayer hall in masjid mubarak, you will notice that the place for the imam actually has place for 2 people, and MGA would regularly find himself to the right of whomever was leading the salat.

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Mirza Ghulam Ahmad spoke with a terrible stutter and Ahmadiyya leadership lied about it..they called it a stammer

Watch my video on this herein. As we all know, MGA’s arabic was terrible. His arabic was sooo bad that he never led any Salaat in his whole life. The Ahmadi’s that surrounded him lied about this forever, and are sooooo stubborn, they would rather die then admit to the obvious. MGA also stuttered terribly, this combined with his terrible pronunciation of Arabic meant that Maulvi Abdul Karim Sialkoti, Noorudin, and Ahsan Amrohi led the salaat at Qadian. In a friday sermon from 7-31-15, Mirza Masroor Ahmad admits that MGA had terrible tajweed. MGA never led Juma-prayers either. Historically, we all know that MGA couldn’t properly pronounce word “Pernala” and basic letters like “AIN”, “Qaf” and “Duad”, see Mirza Masroor Ahmad explanation herein (This is a friday sermon from 7-21-15, its also quoted in the below).

In 1924, in a speech allegedly written by Mirza Mahmud Ahmad (the Khalifa) and read out by Zafrullah Khan in London, the Khalifa revealed to the world that his father (MGA) had a “stammering” problem (see the full quote in the below). In 1938, via the Al-fazl the same stammering problem was explained. In the case of MGA’s speech impediment, he had a terrible stuttering and stammering problem, this is the main reason why he never gave a public speech or never gave a friday sermon. What’s alarming however, is the fact that the inner circle of Ahmadiyya leadership knew the truth….yet they purposely hid it.

Even in 1995, Ahmadiyya sources confirmed this, see Bashir Ahmad Rafiq’s book, “The Afghan Martyrs” (1995), see pages 49-50. An account by Hadhrat Hakeem Deen Mohammad, in this account, an Arab comes to Qadian, in 1902, while the first martyr of Ahmadiyya (Syed Abdul Latif) is also there and he is amazed that MGA can barely recite arabic properly. MGA then says that Allah has gifted him with the writing of Arabic, not the reading of it. However, Syed Abdul Latif was about to physically assault this arab. So much for being peaceful in Ahmadiyya.
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Tiryaq-e-Ilahi never worked on anyone…it was just a super-opium drug….


MGA and Noorudin played with opium their entire lives. They took medicines that had soooooo much opium in them that a human isn’t capable of leading salaat, doing public speeches or any other things…in fact, MGA was sooooo high, he would sit in his room all day and do nothing…..this is why he was always sitting around aimlessly. In fact, MGA had soooo many digestive problems as a result of eating opium that he was forced to keep many bathroom attendants, who would tend to MGA all day and all night, they would clean up MGA’s feces and piss and then clean MGA, as we all know, MGA’s right arm was broken since he was a child, he thus couldn’t even clean himself after his sloppy excretions. Remember, MGA never admitted to taking opium in medicines in his entire life, in fact, he denied using it for diabetes in 1903. However, after MGA died, his sons told the world that MGA took an opium based on viagra type of drug  (1923) and was cured of impotency and thus had 10+ additional children. They also told us that Tiryaq e Ilahi had a majority of Opium in it (see the Al-fazl of 1929).

Further, it should be noted that MGA was charging 2000-2500 rupees for his plague medicine (Tiryaq-e-ilahi).
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Mirza Ghulam Ahmad never fasted during #Ramadhan, #virtualramadhan

Ahmadis are in the business of lying on behalf of the Mirza family, they lie about everything, they knew that MGA never led Salaat, never led Friday Khutbah, and never gave public speeches and never fasted during ramadhan. In fact, in 1904, he had the gall to drink with his left hand in front of a hostile gathering of Muslims and had to be escorted out by the British police. Per the story in the below, MGA’s widowed wife told her son (Mirza Bashir Ahmad) that when she first married MGA (1884-1885) and began living with him at Qadian, MGA would try to fast during ramadhan, however, because of his health, he could never complete a fast. The second year that she lived at (1886) MGA would try to fast again, but would fail and would pay the Fidya (a sort of tax on those who can’t fast), it is unclear whom MGA would pay this to, since there was no islamic organization at Qadian. Furthermore, MGA never paid Zakat and never donated any money to any islamic organization in his entire life. We believe that Nusrat Jehan is giving a half-truth here, she goes on to say that MGA fasted every month of Ramadhan from roughly 1889-1906, however, this is a lie, based on MGA’s medical condition. In fact, per Islam, MGA would have been exempted from fasting, since he was a diabetic, had frequent attacks of diarrhea and urine, took opium, and had what seems to be migraines and other brain trauma.
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Dr. Mir Muhammad Ismail (MGA’s brother-in-law) was fooled about MGA leading Tarawee or Tahujjad

Dr. Mir Muhammad Ismail was born in 1882, it is unclear when he officially moved in with MGA at Qadian. He is not amongst the first 313 Ahmadi’s list of 1896, he also claims to be a bad person in his youth. We all know that MGA never led Salaat, not even on accident, not even in a very small gathering of children, MGA was not even the imam at Qadian during the time of his father, as we all know, MGA’s father hired the father of Jalal-ud-din Shams to lead the Salaat at his Aqsa mosque, which was a 5 minute walk from the Palace of the Mirza family. MGA had the Masjid Mubarak built after his father died and it was basically his private office. He would allow his closest followers to come in and pray with him. The area for the imam was hidden, it was a cut out into the wall and opened up into an area for 3-4 people. As Mirza Masroor Ahmad told us, MGA would stand in that room, to the right of the imam, and some of his super-obsessive followers would enter and stroke MGA’s body during salaat. In other narration in Seeratul Mahdi, MGA’s same brother-in-law narrates a story that gives the reader the impression that MGA always avoided being the imam to any prayers. What probably happened in this scenario was that MGA’s brother-in-law, who was only 14-15 at the time, he was fooled to think that MGA was leading Taraweeh or Tahujjad, which are obviously 2 separate prayers, maybe MGA substituted one for the other?? Further, MGA would eat til the adhan was even over, which is also objectionable. And where was the Abdul Kareem? Or Nooruddin at the same time?? What about Ahsan Amrohi?? As we all know, there were barely 20 Ahmadis who lived in Qadian, so there was no need for the Masjid Aqsa to even be opened…all of this activity happened in closed-quarters, aka MGA’s office aka Masjid Mubarak.
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