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A young Mirza Ghulam Ahmad stole his families pension money and was punished by never being able to see his mother again



Intro
We have written about this story before.  However, we have found new information which seems to open up this story a bit further.  The new info is from the ROR of 1922 wherein MGA’s mother was described.  This essay was written by an Ahmadi named Ghulam Mohammad Ahmadi, and published on the 5th of May 1922.  This essay doesn’t mention MGA’s stealing of his families pension, which led to MGA getting severely punished by never being able to see him mother alive ever again, as well as being forced to work in Sialkot for a meager salary. MGA was punished severely, and rightly so, per Islam he should have gotten his right hand chopped off, since he stole upwards of 100,000 dollars in today’s money and was on the run for up to 1 year.

Ahmadi spin doctors try to blame MGA’s cousin for squandering the money
You will find Ahmadi trolls all over social media running around and blaming Imam ud Din (MGA’s cousin aka brother) for spending all of the money, however, that argument collapses since MGA was punished severely.  Why would MGA’s father punish him (MGA) if it was actually Imam ud Din who was the culprit?  Ahmadi’s run from this question and rightly so, since if they ever accept the facts from this story, Ahmadiyya is dead.

Facts from this essay

1–The writer compares the mother of Muhammad (saw) with the mother of MGA (nauzobillah), we have written about this topic, in this era, Ahmadis were fanatical about equating the entire life of Muhammad (Saw) with the life of MGA.

2–In MGA’s youth, he was retired, he never did any work, he was considered a useless appendage.  And MGA’s mother allowed it, she allowed her son to be a lazy good for nothing human.  MGA’s mother protected him from this father.

3–MGA was nicknamed Mullah in his youth.  Since all he did was cry about Islam and its state of affairs in British-India.

4–The author totally omits the pension story.  By 1922, the pension story had never been written about, it was later, with the publishing of Seeratul-Mahdi, that’s when the pension story was revealed.

5–Miran Baksh was sent to Sialkot to bring MGA home, he was a servant in the Mirza household.  MGA’s mother had already died, however, he wasn’t supposed to tell MGA.  This was part of MGA’s punishment after he stole the family money, i.e. to never see his mother ever again. And MGA’s father made sure of it.

6–MGA was on opium from an early age, since he was oblivious to his surroundings and most likely high on opium.  An incident is given from MGA’s youth from roughly 1858, wherein MGA’s young son, Mirza Sultan Ahmad had fallen in the immediate vicinity of MGA and was screaming for help, however, MGA must have been high and thus didn’t hear or see anything, MGA’s mother then ran over and saved the child from what could have been an awful death.

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https://ahmadiyyafactcheckblog.com/2018/12/15/who-is-mirza-ghulam-murtaza-1791-1876/

https://ahmadiyyafactcheckblog.com/2017/07/16/the-punjab-chiefs-by-lepel-griffin-1865-1890-and-1909-edition-its-data-and-scans/

https://ahmadiyyafactcheckblog.com/2018/03/06/mirza-ghulam-ahmad-had-a-sister-that-was-also-crazy-and-had-crazy-dreams-just-like-mga/

https://ahmadiyyafactcheckblog.com/2016/12/26/the-mirza-family-was-above-the-law-in-british-india/

http://www.reviewofreligions.org/1573/forefathers-of-the-promised-messiahas/

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Mirza Tahir Ahmad purposely lied about the pension story in March of 1985

Intro
Mirza Tahir Ahmad was a vicious mullah.  He lied and lied and lied.  He setup Ord-XX and was able to move his headquarters to the UK.  His bigotry knew no bounds, and he was bold and arrogant about it.  In this specific case, I have caught him lying about MGA and his pension squandering situation from 1865.  Mirza Tahir Ahmad delivered a speech in March of 1985 wherein he acted as-if he had never heard of the pension story in his entire life.  He had never read Seeratul-Mahdi by Mirza Bashir Ahmad nor had any of his elders ever relayed the story to him.  He then claims to have had his team find the reference and then gives a totally fraudulent rendition of the events.  As the data shows, Mirza Tahir Ahmad totally misquoted this entire story.

1.  MGA didnt go to Sialkot to pickup his daddy’s pension, that is a total lie, it isnt written as such anywhere.

2.  It is not written anywhere in the narration that Mirza Imam ud Din snatched the money.

3.  MGA must have written his father a letter while on the road and then was sent to Sialkot to work.

4.  If Imam-ud-Din did steal the money, why wasnt a case filed against him?  Further, Imam-ud-din and MGA were roughly the same age, they had no beefs in that time frame.

The reference
This objection has two parts. One is that he was employed at a salary of 15 rupees per month, implying that he was a very insignificant person. This also implies that God could not have chosen him to be a Prophet, which thereby repeats the same objection raised by the Pharaoh. The second aspect of this objection is that Prophets do not work for someone else. In addition, the Promised Messiahas is being falsely accused (God forbid) of theft. Supposedly, he had to
leave home as a punishment for this theft. We have researched to determine where anyone
could possibly have found such an incident as a basis for such an allegation. We found in the biography Siratul- Mahdi, vol. 1, p. 43–44, narration no. 49:

“””Once the Promised Messiah went to Sialkot to collect his grandfather’s pension. Mirza Imam-ud-Din, a member of his family, went after him, snatched the money, and ran away. After this, the Promised Messiah did not return to Qadian because he deemed it better to earn some money by finding a job, rather than going back to his family after incurring the loss.”””

The True reference
“””in the name Allah the beneficient and the merciful. Stated to me by walda sahiba (mother of the author) that once , at the young age hazrat masih e moud went to receive pension of his father, when hazrat sahib (Mgaq) received the pension , he was chased and tracked by Mirza imamuddin who instead of bringing hazrat sahib to Qadiyan, lured him and took him from one place to other till the whole amount of pension was spent up. Then Imamuddin left hazrat sahib. Feeling regretted, hazrat sahib went to Sialkot instead of coming back to home. He got a job in the court of Deputy Commissioner Sialkot, on a very meagre amount as his father also desired him to get a job. Hazrat sahib remained there for some time till his mother got ill and he was called home by the grand father. At Amritsar He was received by a messenger from Qadiyan who told him that his mother had died.”””

See here: https://ahmadiyyafactcheckblog.wordpress.com/2016/12/01/mirza-ghulam-ahmads-famous-pension-story/

The Urdu transliteration
Bayan kia mudge say hazart walida sahib nay kay aik dafa apnee jawani (youth) kay zamana main hazart masih maoud alaih salam tumharay dada kee pension wasool kernai gaye to peachay peachay (behind) mirza imam din bhee chala gaiya. Jab aap nay pension wasool ker lee to wo aap ko phusla (trick) ker aur dhoka day ker bajayi (instead) qadian lanay kay bahir (meaning of the word is outside-but it means outside qadian somewhere else) lay giaya aour idher udher (here there) phirata raha. (according to this narration -this incident was just before sialkot employment which was 1864-1868-MGA is around 25 years old-purpose of this is to ascertain MGA age- he was not a child that imam din could lure him hither thither in India)
Phir jub us nay (imamdin) saraa rupiya ura (spend) ker khatam ker diya to aap ko schore (leave) ker kaheen aour chala gaya. Hazrat masih maoud ees (this) sharam kay maray wapis ghar naheen aiyee. Aour chounkay tumharay dada ka munsha (desire) rehtaa tha kay aap kaheen mulazam ho jayeen -ees liyay aap sialkot shahr (city) main -deputy commissionar kee katchehri main qaleel tunkhua (little wage) per mulazam ho gayay (now that proves that MGA was in his 20s and was not a child) aour kutch arsaa tuk wahan mulazmat per rahay. Phir jab tumharee dadee (MGA mother) beemar hounee to tumharay dada nay admee bhaija – kay mulazmat chour (leave) ker aa (come) jaao. Jiss per hazrat sahib forun rawana ho gayay. Amritsar pohuntch ker qadian aanay kay wastay yakka karayia per liyaa. Iss mouqa per qadian say aik aour adamee bhee aap kay laynay kay liyay amritsar pouhntch giyaa -us admee nay kaha yakka (tanga) juldi chalao kiunkay un (MGA mother) kee halat bohat nazuk thee. Phir thoree dair kay baad kehnay laga -bohat hee halat nazuk thee- jaldi karo kaheen fout (died) nah ho gaee houn. Walida sahiba bayan kertee theen -kay hazart sahib fermatay thay -kay main isee waqat sumahg giaa kay -derasal walida fout ho chukee hain. Kiunkay agar woh zinda hoteen to wo shakhas aisay alfaz na boltaa. Chonanchay qadian pohnchay to pata laga kay waqayee wo fout ho chukeen thee. Walida sahiba bayan kertee hain kay hazrat sahib fermatay thay kay humain (means -“us “ is plural- does that mean that there was at least one more person?) chore (leave) ker phir mirza imam din ihther udher (here and there) phirta raha. Akhir us nay chaiy (tea) kay qaflay per daka (theft) mara aour pakra giaa- magar muqadma main rihaa ho giya. Hazrat sahib farmatay thay kay maaloom hota hai kay Allah taala nay hamaree waja say hee usay kaid (prison) say bachaa liya-werna wo khud kaisa hee adamee tha hamaray mukhalif yahee kehtay -in kay aik chacha zaad bahee jail khana main reh chuka hai. Khaksaar araz kerta hai kay hazrat masih maoud alaih salam kee sialkot kee mulazmat 1864-1868 ka waqia hai.
Is rawait (narration) say yay naheen samajna chahiya kay hazart masih maoud ka sialkot main mulaazam hona is wajah say tha- kay aap say mirza imam din nay dada sahib kee pension kaa rupaya dhoka say ura (taken) liya tha-keyoon kay jaisa kay khud hazart masih maoud alaih salam nay apnee tasaneef main tasreeh (explain) kee hai. Aap kee mulazmat akhtiayar kernay kee waja (reason) siraf yay thee kay aap kay walid sahib mulazmat kay leyay zour daitay rehtay thay -werna aap kee apnee raiy (opinion) mulazmat kay khilaf thee. Isee tarha mulazmat chour (leave) daynay kee bhee asal wajah yahee thee – kay hazrat masih maoud mulazmat ko naapasand fermatay thay-aour apnay walid sahib ko mulazmat turk ker daynay kee ijazat kay leyay likhtay rehtay thay. laykin dada sahib turk a mulazmat kee ijazat naheen daytay thay. Magar jub dadi sahiba bemaar hunyee to dada sahib nay ijazat bhijwaa dee kay mulazmat chore ker aa jao.””

The video-work

Why did Mirza Tahir Ahmad lie?
Most Ahmadis indirectly worship the Mirza family.  They believe everything their Khalifa says, without question.  They are like robots.  They all heard Mirza Tahir Ahmad give his version of events and that was it.  They never questioned him, nor are they allowed to.

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Dr. Basharat Ahmad (Lahori-Ahmadi) omits MGA’s pension story

Intro
Dr. Basharat Ahmad wrote a comprehensive biography on the life of MGA.  Its called Mujadid-e-Azam, or the “The Great Mujadid”.  He was an old friend of Maulvi Abdul Karim and Noorudin, they all knew each other very well.  Anyhow, Dr. Ahmad wrote extensively about MGA’s life in Sialkot, however, he purposely omitted the part about why MGA had to go to Sialkot and take up employment.  This is very odd, since he quotes Seeratul-Mahdi by Mirza Bashir Ahmad many times.  Anyhow, feel free to read Vol. 1 of Mujadid e Azam and you will see the deception.

The Pension story can be read here:   https://ahmadiyyafactcheckblog.wordpress.com/2016/12/01/mirza-ghulam-ahmads-famous-pension-story/

Conclusions
All Ahmadis are dishonest.  They will do and say anything to clear MGA of wrongdoing.  This is simply just another case of that.

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Mirza Ghulam Ahmad’s famous pension story

Intro
As we all know, in 1865, MGA and his cousin set off to pickup the hefty pension payment by the British govt. to MGA’s father and his brothers.  Below is the entire transliteration of the incident.  This money (700 rupees) was given to the Mirza family as a result of their military service for the British in the Mutiny of 1857.  The Mirza family showed more loyalty then any other family in the entire gurdaspur district and were thus compensated.  This money was supposed to be divided as follows:   Two-fifths belonged to the descendants of Mirza Tasadduq Jilani, two fifths to those of Mirza Gul Muhammad, and one-fifth to Mirza Ghulam Murtaza as the managing proprietor (see Dard page 68).  Jilani and Mirza Gul Muhammad were grandfathers of Mirza Ghulam Murtaza. Of the 700 rupees, 280 rupees were allocated to Jilani, who’s entire family seems to have went missing from Ahmadiyya records.  Another 280 rupees were  allocated to Mirza Ghulam Murtaza and only 2 of his brothers (Muhiyideen and Haidar), that means 46.66 rupees per family.  Another 140 rupees were just for Mirza Ghulam Murtaza.  There must have been a third cousin who also traveled with them to pickup the money.  Thus, MGA seems to have picked up his daddy’s portion of the money which would be 140 rupees and a split of the 280, of which MGA grabbed 46.66, thus his total weas 186.66 rupees.  Imam ud Din got his daddy’s pension and with MGA “in-concert”, spent all the money and returned to Qadian empty handed.

The Quote
Bismillah Alrehmani rahim
Bayan kia mudge say hazart walida sahib nay kay aik dafa apnee jawani (youth) kay zamana main hazart masih maoud alaih salam tumharay dada kee pension wasool kernai gaye to peachay peachay (behind) mirza imam din bhee chala gaiya. Jab aap nay pension wasool ker lee to wo aap ko phusla (trick) ker aur dhoka day ker bajayi (instead) qadian lanay kay bahir (meaning of the word is outside-but it means outside qadian somewhere else) lay giaya aour idher udher (here there) phirata raha. (according to this narration -this incident was just before sialkot employment which was 1864-1868-MGA is around 25 years old-purpose of this is to ascertain MGA age- he was not a child that imam din could lure him hither thither in India)
Phir jub us nay (imamdin) saraa rupiya ura (spend) ker khatam ker diya to aap ko schore (leave) ker kaheen aour chala gaya. Hazrat masih maoud ees (this) sharam kay maray wapis ghar naheen aiyee. Aour chounkay tumharay dada ka munsha (desire) rehtaa tha kay aap kaheen mulazam ho jayeen -ees liyay aap sialkot shahr (city) main -deputy commissionar kee katchehri main qaleel tunkhua (little wage) per mulazam ho gayay (now that proves that MGA was in his 20s and was not a child) aour kutch arsaa tuk wahan mulazmat per rahay. Phir jab tumharee dadee (MGA mother) beemar hounee to tumharay dada nay admee bhaija – kay mulazmat chour (leave) ker aa (come) jaao. Jiss per hazrat sahib forun rawana ho gayay. Amritsar pohuntch ker qadian aanay kay wastay yakka karayia per liyaa. Iss mouqa per qadian say aik aour adamee bhee aap kay laynay kay liyay amritsar pouhntch giyaa -us admee nay kaha yakka (tanga) juldi chalao kiunkay un (MGA mother) kee halat bohat nazuk thee. Phir thoree dair kay baad kehnay laga -bohat hee halat nazuk thee- jaldi karo kaheen fout (died) nah ho gaee houn. Walida sahiba bayan kertee theen -kay hazart sahib fermatay thay -kay main isee waqat sumahg giaa kay -derasal walida fout ho chukee hain. Kiunkay agar woh zinda hoteen to wo shakhas aisay alfaz na boltaa. Chonanchay qadian pohnchay to pata laga kay waqayee wo fout ho chukeen thee. Walida sahiba bayan kertee hain kay hazrat sahib fermatay thay kay humain (means -“us “ is plural- does that mean that there was at least one more person?) chore (leave) ker phir mirza imam din ihther udher (here and there) phirta raha. Akhir us nay chaiy (tea) kay qaflay per daka (theft) mara aour pakra giaa- magar muqadma main rihaa ho giya. Hazrat sahib farmatay thay kay maaloom hota hai kay Allah taala nay hamaree waja say hee usay kaid (prison) say bachaa liya-werna wo khud kaisa hee adamee tha hamaray mukhalif yahee kehtay -in kay aik chacha zaad bahee jail khana main reh chuka hai. Khaksaar araz kerta hai kay hazrat masih maoud alaih salam kee sialkot kee mulazmat 1864-1868 ka waqia hai.
Is rawait (narration) say yay naheen samajna chahiya kay hazart masih maoud ka sialkot main mulaazam hona is wajah say tha- kay aap say mirza imam din nay dada sahib kee pension kaa rupaya dhoka say ura (taken) liya tha-keyoon kay jaisa kay khud hazart masih maoud alaih salam nay apnee tasaneef main tasreeh (explain) kee hai. Aap kee mulazmat akhtiayar kernay kee waja (reason) siraf yay thee kay aap kay walid sahib mulazmat kay leyay zour daitay rehtay thay -werna aap kee apnee raiy (opinion) mulazmat kay khilaf thee. Isee tarha mulazmat chour (leave) daynay kee bhee asal wajah yahee thee – kay hazrat masih maoud mulazmat ko naapasand fermatay thay-aour apnay walid sahib ko mulazmat turk ker daynay kee ijazat kay leyay likhtay rehtay thay. laykin dada sahib turk a mulazmat kee ijazat naheen daytay thay. Magar jub dadi sahiba bemaar hunyee to dada sahib nay ijazat bhijwaa dee kay mulazmat chore ker aa jao.””

Partial English translation
My mother told me that his holiness, the Promised Messiah, one day, during his youth, went to collect the pension of his grandfather (700 rupees – Seeratul Mahdi, Vol. 1, P. 131). Following him was a person by the name of Imamuddin. When he received the pension, Imamuddin mislead him and took him outside Qadian. They roamed about from place to place. When his holiness had squandered all he had, Imamuddin deserted him leaving him alone and left for some other place. However, his holiness, the Promised Messiah, did not return home for shame and for fear of infamy. And since his grandfather’s desire was that he be employed somewhere, he went to Sialkot and got himself employed for a miserably low salary (ten rupees a month)…………………………………….” (Seeratul Mahdi, Vol. 1, P. 43; by Mirza Bashir Ahmad)

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https://ahmadiyyafactcheckblog.com/2016/11/24/mirza-imam-ud-din-the-cousin-of-mirza-ghulam-ahmad/

https://ahmadiyyafactcheckblog.com/2017/07/16/the-punjab-chiefs-by-lepel-griffin-1890-edition-doesnt-even-mention-mirza-ghulam-ahmad/

https://ahmadiyyafactcheckblog.com/2018/12/11/who-is-mirza-nizam-ud-din-1845-the-first-cousin-of-mirza-ghulam-ahmad/

https://ahmadiyyafactcheckblog.com/2018/12/18/who-is-mirza-ata-muhammad-died-in-1814/

https://ahmadiyyafactcheckblog.com/2018/12/15/who-is-mirza-ghulam-murtaza-1791-1876/

https://ahmadiyyafactcheckblog.com/2017/07/16/the-punjab-chiefs-by-lepel-griffin-1865-1890-and-1909-edition-its-data-and-scans/

https://ahmadiyyafactcheckblog.com/2018/03/06/mirza-ghulam-ahmad-had-a-sister-that-was-also-crazy-and-had-crazy-dreams-just-like-mga/

https://ahmadiyyafactcheckblog.com/2016/12/26/the-mirza-family-was-above-the-law-in-british-india/

http://www.reviewofreligions.org/1573/forefathers-of-the-promised-messiahas/

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Who is Syed Muhammad Hussain Batalvi? 1840-1920

Intro
Syed Muhammad Hussain Batalvi (1840-1920) was a contemporary of Mirza Ghulam Ahmad in the Punjab.  They were both born during the the last 8-9 years of Sikh rule and were under the Ramgharia Misl, which was annexed into the greater Sikh Empire in roughly 1816 by Ranjit Singh.  They were both educated by the same teachers as British rule began in roughly 1850.  Their parents also knew each other, when MGA’s family went to Batala, they always stayed at the ancestoral home of Syed Muhammad Hussain Batalvi.  They were both Ahl-e-Hadith Muslims aka Wahabis.  In 1878 Batalvi started the Ishaat us Sunnah magazine and gave MGA space to market his new book-series, the Braheen-e-Ahmadiyya.  In 1881, Batalvi gave MGA an exhaustive review and supported MGA’s work via the Ahl-e-Hadith.  In 1884, when MGA wanted to get married, Batalvi had a list of young girls with him and shared it with MGA, this is how they found out about the daughter of Mir Nasir Nawab.  The Ahl-e-Hadith grew weary of MGA in late 1884 and some even called MGA a Kafir, since MGA was boasting about divine revelations in his book series (the Braheen), neverthless, Batalvi stuck up for MGA yet again.  By 1889 they became enemies, since MGA claimed to be the second coming of Esa (as).  They organized debates with each other and jousted from their magazines until 1899, when the British government stepped in and absolved MGA and forced Batalvi to never insult MGA ever again (by calling him kafir or otherwise).  His disputes with Ahmadiyya seem to have ended here.  However, he did have a famous debate with a Quranist in 1902 and his sons were found at Qadian in 1910, later on they recanted and left Ahmadiyya.

The 1850’s
MGA and Batalvi used some of the same teachers and were classmates at many times, most likely in Batala.

1860–1869
Batalvi studied Hadith, logic and grammar from Molvi Syed Nazeer Husain (1805-1901).  The same Maulvi that read MGA’s nikkah in 1884.

1869
After his mother died, and MGA completed his punishment, MGA returned to Qadian from Sialkot.  MGA abruptly visits Batala and almost has a debate with Batalvi, however, MGA comments that he agrees with everything Batalvi is saying (see BA4, pages 399-400).  Batalvi  had finished his studies on islam and as now an imam-proper.  This entire scenario happened in a mosque in Batala (see Dard, page 54).

1878
He starts his newspaper, Ishaat us Sunnah, which runs until 1900 and then goes missing.  It seems to have been replaced with a new newspaper, the “Ahl-i-Hadis”.  Which was edited by Maulvi Sanaullah.

1882
MGA mentions batalvi in BA3, on page 7 of the online english edition.  They seem to be very good friends.  MGA claims that Batalvi works as a secretary of the Anjuman-i-Hamdardi Islamia, Lahore.  Which is most likely the Anjuman Himayat-i Islam.  Maybe out of respect, MGA wrote it the way he did.

1884-MGA mentioned Batalvi in BA4
On pages 399-400, MGA remembers his debate with Batalvi that never happened.

1884 
Batalvi gives MGA’s Braheen-e-Ahmadiyya series a glowing review, however, after the 4th volume is published, the Ahl-e-Hadith Muslims call MGA a Kafir.  Batalvi sticks up for MGA in this era and claims that MGA is not claiming prophethood, only divine revelations.

1887
The magazine became quite popular and was recognized by notable scholars and Government Officials. When Sir Charles Umpherston Aitchison, Governor of the Punjab from 1882-1887, left the area in April 1887, he gave Muhammad Hussain, a certificate testifying to his ability and learning. Muhammad Hussain proudly records this fact (See ‘ Isha‘atus Sunnah’ Vol. 20, No. 3).

1888
MGA mentions Batalvi on page 20 of “The Green Announcement”.  They seem to still be friends up to this point.  MGA even refers to him an “eminent person”, we are not sure what the Urdu word is here for “eminent person”.

1889
Batalvi begins to question MGA and his claims of being the second coming of Esa (as).  This spills over into the early part of 1890.

1891
A full blown war breaks out between MGA and Batalvi.  They arrange to debate each other in Ludhiana, however, MGA requests the British government to intervene and save him.  This debate lasted for twelve days, from 20 July – 31 July 1891.  The venue was the ‘Masjid Awanan’ (Awana’s Mosque) at Ludhiana.  This was a written debate, wherein someone other then MGA read out MGA’s (alleged) writings.  The written papers of both sides were later published by MGA as Al-Haq Mubahathah Ludhiana (Urdu). [i.e. Truth: the Ludhiana Debate].  Batalvi goes around the Punjab and gets the majority of the Ulema to pass a Fatwa of Kufr on MGA.

1892
MGA mentions Batalvi extensively in his book, ‘Nishan Asmani’ in english as “Heavenly Signs”.

March 17th, 1892
On roughly March 17th, 1891, MGA predicts that Batalvi would die in 40 days time or would suffer a major tragedy.  It expires on April 27th and Batalvi is fine, Batalvi then writes about it in his newspaper, this prediction isn’t published by MGA until 1893, in a book called, Aina Kamalat e Islam at page 601-604.

May 4th, 1893
MGA publishes a prophecy about Batalvi, that would he repent and stop calling MGA a Kafir and etc (see page 39).  Ahmadi’s claim that this was fulfilled when the British Government ordered him to never call MGA or Ahmadi’s as Kafirs ever again in 1899 and it was manifested in 1911-1913 era, when he was called to court to testify about Ahmadi’s.

Oct-Dec 1898
He claims that MGA broke the law and conducted a prophecy vs. himself.  Even though MGA is guilty, the British government absolves MGA.  MGA issues another prophecy against Batalvi, MGA claims that Batalvi will be disgraced by Feb 1900.

1902
Ahmadiyya sources tell us that In November of 1902 a debate took place between Muhammad
Hussain Batalavi and ‘Abdullah Chakrhalavi on the importance and position of the Holy Quran and the hadith.  Chakrhalavi was the founder of the Ahl-e-Quran sect of North India, he died in 1931.

1905
In Lecture Ludhiana, MGA mentions Batalvi, and even says that he visited Qadian often from roughly 1855–1889.  MGA also mentions the case of 1898 wherein Capt. Le Marchand saved MGA from going to jail.

1907
MGA and his team publish a dream of MGA wherein it seems that Batalvi will convert to Ahmadiyya. It seems that MGA was still hoping that Batalvi would eventually accept MGA as the Messiah (See 2009 Online edition of Tadhkirah, pages 949-950).

1910
2 of his children seem to have been taken to Qadian by Ahmadi’s and forcibly converted to Ahmadiyya.  Later on they recanted.  He also appears as a witness in some Ahmadiyya related cases.

1920
Batalvi dies.

1931
Ahmadi’s publish: “Batalvi Ka Anjam” by Mir Qasim Ali.

1937
The son of Batalvi writes a book about MGA called “The useless Prophet”.

2019
Via twitter, Ahmadi’s share info that some of the great grandsons of Batalvi have become Ahmadi.

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https://ahmadiyyafactcheckblog.com/2018/03/31/batalvi-sent-some-of-his-children-to-qadian-for-schooling/

https://www.alislam.org/library/books/ReviewBatalaviChakrhalavi.pdf

https://www.alislam.org/library/books/The-Green-Announcement.pdf

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Who is Mirza Ghulam Ghaus?

Intro
He is the cousin of Mirza Ghulam Murtaza.  His father was MIrza Qasim Baig, the only brother of Mirza Ata Muhammad.  They are forever connected based on the settlement of 1865, wherein 2/5th’s of the 700 rupee pension was divided.  The Mirza estate was divided into five parts; two-fifths belonged to the descendants of Mirza Tasadduq Jilani, two fifths to those of Mirza Gul Muhammad, and one-fifth to Mirza Ghulam Murtaza as the managing proprietor (see Dard page 68).  In fact, Mirza Ghulam Murtaza was the “head of the family”, even the Punjab Chiefs, his name is listed under the header.

Not mentioned in the Punjab Chiefs
Only his uncle, Mirza Ata Muhammad and his cousins are mentioned.  However, he still got a share of the pension (See Dard page 68 and 70).

He sold his property shares after 1876
By roughly 1876, he had sold his shares to an uncle of the famous Muhammadi Begum.  He then disappears from Ahmadiyya history.

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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ahluwalia

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jassa_Singh_Ramgarhia

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http://www.defencejournal.com/2001/may/sepoy.htm

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https://ahmadiyyafactcheckblog.com/2018/12/18/who-is-mirza-ata-muhammad-died-in-1814/

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Who is Mirza Ghulam Kadir?

Intro
Mirza Ghulam Kadir was a cousin of MGA that seems to have either died young or just totally gone missing in the history of Ahmadiyya after 1865.  Not to be confused with Mirza Ghulam Qadir, who was MGA’s brother.  He is mentioned in the Punjab Chiefs of 1865, his father was Mirza Ghulam Muhammad, as can be seen via the family tree, in fact, he is mentioned in the family tree before MGA and his brother ever were, Mirza Ghulam Hussain was also mentioned, but only in the family tree area. In the 1890 edition his name is mis-spelled as “Ghulam Kadar”, he is also listed as dead, since the year of his death is given as 1883, he seems to have had a child named Abdul Kadar, who died in 1868, thus, there was no heir (both of these are errors, they seem to have confused him with MGA’s brother).  He is mentioned as he specifically served under General Nicholson, as the British totally killed all the mutineers of the 46th N.I., who had fled from Sialkot, they were killed at Trimmu Ghat.   He was also given a pension according to the Settlement of 1865 (with the British govt. see Punjab Chiefs), the Mirza estate was divided into five parts; two-fifths belonged to the descendants of Mirza Tasadduq Jilani (who have since totally disappeared), two fifths to those of Mirza Gul Muhammad (basically the sons of Mirza Ata Muhammad), and one-fifth to Mirza Ghulam Murtaza as the managing proprietor (see Dard page 68).  In fact, Mirza Ghulam Murtaza was the “head of the family”, even the Punjab Chiefs, his name is listed under the header.

His children?
In the 1890 edition of the Punjab Chiefs, under his family tree, he is listed as having a son names Abdul Kadar, the year of birth is also listed, however, its hard to see.

His exact pension amount?
He was given monies through the allotment to Mirza Gul Muhammad, which was 2/5 of 700 rupees= 280 rupees.  This was further divided up between the 5 brothers (Mirza Ghulam Murtaza included).  My estimate for Mirza Ghulam Kadir would be 280/5= 56 rupees per year.

The 1910 edition of the Punjab Chiefs confuses him with Mirza Ghulam Qadir
He is not mentioned under the children of Mirza Ghulam Muhammad, the line simply ends.  It is then written that Mirza Ghulam Qadir served under General Nicholson’s army, which is an error.  Dard (1947) thus makes the same error on pages 94-95.

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https://ahmadiyyafactcheckblog.com/2016/12/26/the-mirza-family-was-above-the-law-in-british-india/

https://www.alislam.org/library/books/Life-of-Ahmad.pdf

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Who is Mirza Tasadduq Jilani?

Intro
His name appears in the settlement of 1865 in Dard, (see page 68), his brith year and death year are unknown.  He is an uncle of Mirza Ata Muhammad, Mirza Ghulam Murtaza’s grandfather.  In 1865, his off-spring were finally added to the pension that was already supposed to be given to all the males of the Mirza family.  His only surviving male in 1865 was Mirza Jilani, who was the son of Mirza Tasadduq Jilani.  Mirza Jilani was a distant paternal uncle of MGA and Mirza Jilani was a sort of second cousin.  MGA mentions Mirza Jilani in his book Haqiqatul Wahy (1907) 4 times. He mentions him specifically in terms of the “Case of the Wall”.  The settlement of 1865 specified a new pension arrangement as such, 700 rupees ; two-fifths belonged to the descendants of Mirza Tasadduq Jilani, two fifths to those of Mirza Gul Muhammad, and one-fifth to Mirza Ghulam Murtaza as the managing proprietor (see Dard page 68).

His sons
3 sons are listed in Dard, however, it seems that 2 of those sons were dead by 1865, since their wives are listed as widows (See Dard, pages 69-70).  The only surviving son, Mirza Ghulam Jilani seems to have sued Imam ud Din and Mirza Ghulam Murtaza in 1867-68.  This law-suit would later come up during the case of the wall, Jilani lost the suit.  This entire side of the family never served for the British government in any capacity after 1883, hence all pensions and rights seem to have ended.

The Mirza family sued each other in 1864-65
It seems that there were many lawsuits in terms of splitting up the monies and land that was given to Mirza Ghulam Murtaza in 1858.  Up to that point, only Mirza Ghulam Murtaza was given any type of pension, the rest of the family has also served in various capacities in 1857 and before, they were very upset at took Mirza Ghulam Murtaza to court and won.

1876
After Mirza Ghulam Murtaza died, his nephews and cousins sued his sons and won.  Mirza Ghulam Jilani and Mirza Ghulam Ghaus and many others sued Mirza Ghulam Qadir (who was the family representative to the British government) over land and won decisively, the shock seems to have caused Mirza Ghulam Qadir to die young.

1901, the case of the Wall
Mirza Imam ud Din built a wall over a piece of land that belonged to him and Mirza Jilani, there seems to have been a lawsuit between these two second-cousins over a small piece of land which was not a cause-way that MGA was using.  MGA should have lost this case, however, as they checked the the index of this case, it was revealed that MGA’s father was also listed as a plaintiff, thus the British government sided with MGA and gave him ownership of the land also.  Mirza Imam ud Din died in 1904 and his land most likely reverted to MGA, since he didn’t have any male heirs, his daughter married Mirza Sultan Ahmad in 1883.

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https://ahmadiyyafactcheckblog.com/2017/01/13/mirza-sultan-ahmad-mgas-eldest-son/

https://ahmadiyyafactcheckblog.com/2018/12/09/who-is-mirza-ghulam-muhi-ud-din-mirza-ghulam-ahmads-paternal-uncle-died-in-1866/

https://ahmadiyyafactcheckblog.com/2016/11/24/mirza-imam-ud-din-the-cousin-of-mirza-ghulam-ahmad/

https://ahmadiyyafactcheckblog.com/2017/07/16/the-punjab-chiefs-by-lepel-griffin-1890-edition-doesnt-even-mention-mirza-ghulam-ahmad/

https://ahmadiyyafactcheckblog.com/2018/12/11/who-is-mirza-nizam-ud-din-1845-the-first-cousin-of-mirza-ghulam-ahmad/

https://ahmadiyyafactcheckblog.com/2017/01/10/new-data-on-muhammadi-begum-found-2017/

https://ahmadiyyafactcheckblog.com/2018/05/24/mirza-sultan-muhammad-and-wife-muhammadi-begum-lived-and-died-as-muslim-had-5-sons-and-two-doughters/

https://ahmadiyyafactcheckblog.com/2018/07/29/mirza-ghulam-ahmad-wanted-muhammadi-begums-husband-to-be-killed/

https://ahmadiyyafactcheckblog.com/2018/05/14/mirza-sultan-muhammad-from-patti-district-lahore-married-muhammadi-begum-mgas-niece-daughter-not-mga/

https://ahmadiyyafactcheckblog.wordpress.com/2017/01/10/new-data-on-muhammadi-begum-found-2017/

https://ahmadiyyafactcheckblog.com/2018/02/14/in-terms-of-muhammadi-begum-mirza-ghulam-ahmad-was-guaranteeing-that-she-would-eventually-taqdir-e-mubra-be-married-to-him/

https://www.alislam.org/library/book/haqiqatul-wahi/

https://ahmadiyyafactcheckblog.com/2018/03/06/mirza-ghulam-ahmad-had-a-sister-that-was-also-crazy-and-had-crazy-dreams-just-like-mga/

https://ahmadiyyafactcheckblog.com/2018/12/15/who-is-mirza-ghulam-murtaza-1791-1876/

https://ahmadiyyafactcheckblog.com/2017/07/16/the-punjab-chiefs-by-lepel-griffin-1890-edition-doesnt-even-mention-mirza-ghulam-ahmad/

https://ahmadiyyafactcheckblog.com/2017/01/11/the-entire-mirza-family-was-above-the-law-in-british-india/

https://ahmadiyyafactcheckblog.com/2017/07/08/even-in-1907-mirza-ghulam-ahmad-was-still-lusting-for-his-niece-muhammadi-begum/

https://ahmadiyyafactcheckblog.com/2016/12/08/mir-nasir-nawab-the-father-in-law-of-mirza-ghulam-ahmad/

https://ahmadiyyafactcheckblog.com/2018/12/11/who-is-mirza-nizam-ud-din-1845-the-first-cousin-of-mirza-ghulam-ahmad/

https://ahmadiyyafactcheckblog.com/2016/11/24/mirza-imam-ud-din-the-cousin-of-mirza-ghulam-ahmad/

https://ahmadiyyafactcheckblog.com/2017/01/13/mirza-sultan-ahmad-mgas-eldest-son/

https://ahmadiyyafactcheckblog.com/2016/12/29/22-dancing-girls-were-brought-to-qadian-by-the-mirza-family-1848-ish/

https://ahmadiyyafactcheckblog.com/2018/12/11/who-is-mirza-nizam-ud-din-1845-the-first-cousin-of-mirza-ghulam-ahmad/

https://ahmadiyyafactcheckblog.com/2018/12/09/who-is-mirza-ghulam-muhi-ud-din-mirza-ghulam-ahmads-paternal-uncle-died-in-1866/

https://ahmadiyyafactcheckblog.com/2018/12/07/the-punjab-chiefs-1909-edition-officially-states-that-mirza-ghulam-ahmad-was-born-in-1839/

https://ahmadiyyafactcheckblog.com/2017/07/16/the-punjab-chiefs-by-lepel-griffin-1890-edition-doesnt-even-mention-mirza-ghulam-ahmad/

https://ahmadiyyafactcheckblog.com/2016/12/26/the-mirza-family-was-above-the-law-in-british-india/

https://www.alislam.org/library/books/Life-of-Ahmad.pdf

https://ahmadiyyafactcheckblog.com/2018/12/13/who-is-mirza-ghulam-qadir-1833-1883/

https://ahmadiyyafactcheckblog.com/2018/12/06/mga-was-born-in-1839-per-the-ror-of-june-1906/

https://ahmadiyyafactcheckblog.com/2017/02/07/mirza-ghulam-ahmad-boycotted-the-funeral-of-his-own-saon-mirza-fazl-ahmad-1904/

http://www.reviewofreligions.org/1573/forefathers-of-the-promised-messiahas/

https://ahmadiyyafactcheckblog.com/2016/09/06/mgas-right-arm-was-disabled-he-cant-be-sultan-ul-qalam/

http://www.reviewofreligions.org/1573/forefathers-of-the-promised-messiahas/

https://ahmadiyyafactcheckblog.com/2017/01/13/mirza-ghulam-ahmad-was-not-allowed-to-teach-his-eldest-sons/

https://ahmadiyyafactcheckblog.com/2017/07/16/the-punjab-chiefs-by-lepel-griffin-1890-edition-doesnt-even-mention-mirza-ghulam-ahmad/

Sir Lepel H. Griffin (1865), The Panjab Chiefs, Online: apnaorg.com. pp.381-2

https://ahmadiyyafactcheckblog.com/2017/07/08/even-in-1907-mirza-ghulam-ahmad-was-still-lusting-for-his-niece-muhammadi-begum/

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Who is Mirza Ghulam Hussain?

Intro
Mirza Ghulam Hussain was a paternal cousin of Mirza Ghulam Ahmad, Mirza Imam ud Din, Mirza Nizam ud Din and Mirza Ghulam Qadir.  His father was Mirza Ghulam Haidar.  He seems to have went missing after the settlement of 1865.  He was married to Imam Bibi, who was the sister of Mirza Ahmad Baig (Beg).  He is mentioned in the Punjab Chiefs in terms of the family tree of MGA.  It was his land which was in-limbo as MGA asked to marry Muhammadi Begum.  In roughly 1887 Mirza Ahmad Baig had approached MGA in an attempt to get MGA to transfer over the property fully into Imam Bibi’s name, MGA had the full legal right to accept or deny this.  This would have given Imam Bibi the power to name an heir to the property, if MGA didn’t sign, at her death the property would revert to the children of Mirza Ghulam Murtaza (MGA and Mirza Sultan Ahmad) and the children of Mirza Ghulam Muhi-ud-Din (Imam ud Din, Nizam ud Din and their sisters).

His pension allotment?  
We have estimated that he was allotted 280/5= 56 rupees per year as well as land rights.

Imam Bibi dies in roughly 1902
MGA discusses this story in Nuzul ul Masih.  Thus, the land of Mirza Ghulam Haidar is reverted back to his cousins.

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https://ahmadiyyafactcheckblog.com/2018/12/18/who-is-mirza-ata-muhammad-died-in-1814/

https://ahmadiyyafactcheckblog.com/2017/07/16/the-punjab-chiefs-by-lepel-griffin-1865-1890-and-1909-edition-its-data-and-scans/

https://ahmadiyyafactcheckblog.com/2017/06/27/mirza-ghulam-ahmad-was-offering-bribes-just-to-get-muhammadi-begum/

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https://ahmadiyyafactcheckblog.com/2018/12/09/who-is-mirza-ghulam-muhi-ud-din-mirza-ghulam-ahmads-paternal-uncle-died-in-1866/

https://ahmadiyyafactcheckblog.com/2016/11/24/mirza-imam-ud-din-the-cousin-of-mirza-ghulam-ahmad/

https://ahmadiyyafactcheckblog.com/2017/07/16/the-punjab-chiefs-by-lepel-griffin-1890-edition-doesnt-even-mention-mirza-ghulam-ahmad/

https://ahmadiyyafactcheckblog.com/2018/12/11/who-is-mirza-nizam-ud-din-1845-the-first-cousin-of-mirza-ghulam-ahmad/

https://ahmadiyyafactcheckblog.com/2017/01/10/new-data-on-muhammadi-begum-found-2017/

https://ahmadiyyafactcheckblog.com/2018/05/24/mirza-sultan-muhammad-and-wife-muhammadi-begum-lived-and-died-as-muslim-had-5-sons-and-two-doughters/

https://ahmadiyyafactcheckblog.com/2018/07/29/mirza-ghulam-ahmad-wanted-muhammadi-begums-husband-to-be-killed/

https://ahmadiyyafactcheckblog.com/2018/05/14/mirza-sultan-muhammad-from-patti-district-lahore-married-muhammadi-begum-mgas-niece-daughter-not-mga/

https://ahmadiyyafactcheckblog.wordpress.com/2017/01/10/new-data-on-muhammadi-begum-found-2017/

https://ahmadiyyafactcheckblog.com/2018/02/14/in-terms-of-muhammadi-begum-mirza-ghulam-ahmad-was-guaranteeing-that-she-would-eventually-taqdir-e-mubra-be-married-to-him/

https://www.alislam.org/library/book/haqiqatul-wahi/

 

https://ahmadiyyafactcheckblog.com/2018/03/06/mirza-ghulam-ahmad-had-a-sister-that-was-also-crazy-and-had-crazy-dreams-just-like-mga/

https://ahmadiyyafactcheckblog.com/2018/12/15/who-is-mirza-ghulam-murtaza-1791-1876/

https://ahmadiyyafactcheckblog.com/2017/07/16/the-punjab-chiefs-by-lepel-griffin-1890-edition-doesnt-even-mention-mirza-ghulam-ahmad/

https://ahmadiyyafactcheckblog.com/2017/01/11/the-entire-mirza-family-was-above-the-law-in-british-india/

https://ahmadiyyafactcheckblog.com/2017/07/08/even-in-1907-mirza-ghulam-ahmad-was-still-lusting-for-his-niece-muhammadi-begum/

https://ahmadiyyafactcheckblog.com/2016/12/08/mir-nasir-nawab-the-father-in-law-of-mirza-ghulam-ahmad/

https://ahmadiyyafactcheckblog.com/2018/12/11/who-is-mirza-nizam-ud-din-1845-the-first-cousin-of-mirza-ghulam-ahmad/

https://ahmadiyyafactcheckblog.com/2016/11/24/mirza-imam-ud-din-the-cousin-of-mirza-ghulam-ahmad/

https://ahmadiyyafactcheckblog.com/2017/01/13/mirza-sultan-ahmad-mgas-eldest-son/

https://ahmadiyyafactcheckblog.com/2016/12/29/22-dancing-girls-were-brought-to-qadian-by-the-mirza-family-1848-ish/

https://ahmadiyyafactcheckblog.com/2018/12/11/who-is-mirza-nizam-ud-din-1845-the-first-cousin-of-mirza-ghulam-ahmad/

https://ahmadiyyafactcheckblog.com/2018/12/09/who-is-mirza-ghulam-muhi-ud-din-mirza-ghulam-ahmads-paternal-uncle-died-in-1866/

https://ahmadiyyafactcheckblog.com/2018/12/07/the-punjab-chiefs-1909-edition-officially-states-that-mirza-ghulam-ahmad-was-born-in-1839/

https://ahmadiyyafactcheckblog.com/2017/07/16/the-punjab-chiefs-by-lepel-griffin-1890-edition-doesnt-even-mention-mirza-ghulam-ahmad/

https://ahmadiyyafactcheckblog.com/2016/12/26/the-mirza-family-was-above-the-law-in-british-india/

https://www.alislam.org/library/books/Life-of-Ahmad.pdf

https://ahmadiyyafactcheckblog.com/2018/12/13/who-is-mirza-ghulam-qadir-1833-1883/

https://ahmadiyyafactcheckblog.com/2018/12/06/mga-was-born-in-1839-per-the-ror-of-june-1906/

https://ahmadiyyafactcheckblog.com/2017/02/07/mirza-ghulam-ahmad-boycotted-the-funeral-of-his-own-saon-mirza-fazl-ahmad-1904/

http://www.reviewofreligions.org/1573/forefathers-of-the-promised-messiahas/

https://ahmadiyyafactcheckblog.com/2016/09/06/mgas-right-arm-was-disabled-he-cant-be-sultan-ul-qalam/

http://www.reviewofreligions.org/1573/forefathers-of-the-promised-messiahas/

https://ahmadiyyafactcheckblog.com/2017/01/13/mirza-ghulam-ahmad-was-not-allowed-to-teach-his-eldest-sons/

https://ahmadiyyafactcheckblog.com/2017/07/16/the-punjab-chiefs-by-lepel-griffin-1890-edition-doesnt-even-mention-mirza-ghulam-ahmad/

Sir Lepel H. Griffin (1865), The Panjab Chiefs, Online: apnaorg.com. pp.381-2

https://ahmadiyyafactcheckblog.com/2017/07/08/even-in-1907-mirza-ghulam-ahmad-was-still-lusting-for-his-niece-muhammadi-begum/

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#ahmadiyya #ahmadiyyatrueislam #ahmadiapartheid #Ahmadiyyat #rabwah #qadian #meetthekhalifa #muslimsforpeace #ahmadiyyafactcheckblog #nolifewithoutkhalifa #AhmadiMosqueattack #AhmadiyyaPersecution #Mosqueattack #trueislam #atifmian

 

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