Intro
In Part-2 of Izala Auham (Fall-1891)(RK-3, page 473), MGA had the audacity to argue that it’s possible that even Muhammad (Saw) didn’t understand the complete truth about the return (nuzool) of Eisa (As)(naozobillah), Dajjal, Beast of the Earth and Gog and Magog (See the clip on tik tok and twitter).
This was discussed by Bro Imtiaz on 1-4-25, in his famous debate with Saleem Meer.
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Roohani Khazain, Izala Auham – Volume 3 – Page 171
“”..First of all, it should be known that the belief nuzul of the Messiah is not such a belief that is part of our beliefs or part of our religion. But one of the prophecies, out of the those prophecies that has nothing to do with Islam.
The era in which the prophecy was made, at that time, Islam was not incomplete and when stated, Islam didn’t get completed. It is not necessary that prophecies get completed in their physical format. But some such and such secrets are hidden in major prophecies that even prophets could not understand ’til the prophecy emerge, instead people believe it’s a certainty, see our Holy Prophet (saw) do consent to it that some prophecies were understood in different formate and they emerged differently…”””
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Izala-e-Auham, Roohani Khazain vol 3 p. 211
Sahih Muslim, 41:6990 41:6991 41:6992 41:6993 41:6999 41:7000 41:7001 41:7002
Al-Adab Al-Mufrad 958 – Gestures – كتاب الحركات – Sunnah.com – Sayings and Teachings of Prophet Muhammad (صلى الله عليه و سلم)
https://sunnah.com/adab:958
MGA says that the sahaba had a consensus that Ibn Sayyad was the Dajjal.
_____________________________________________________________________________________________Izala-e-Auham, Roohani Khazain vol 3 p. 356
As far as the first generation is concerned, they have disagreement on the Dajjal, and some companions saw Ibn Syad is the Dajjal.
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_____________________________________________________________________________________________Izala-e-Auham, Roohani Khazain vol 3 p.472
“””That this action is a prediction against the intention. Similarly, there was no clear revelation
about Ibn Sayyad, and the Prophet’s first thought was that Ibn Sayyad was the Dajjal, but this
opinion changed in the end. Such is the condition that Abu Bakr Siddiq (RA) made regarding the
prophecy of Surah Rum. The Holy Prophet (peace and blessings of Allah be upon him) clearly stated that the word Muz in the Arabic dictionary is used only for years and I was not properly
informed as to which year this prophecy would be fulfilled within the limit of nine years. Similarly, the hadith in the words of which is Fazahb Wahali al-Inha Al-Imamah O Al-Hijr Fadha Hai Al Madinah Yathrib – is clearly showing that what the Holy Prophet (PBUH) considered to be the place and evidence of prophecy through his Ijtihad was wrong. And according to the prophecies of Jesus Christ the most surprising of the predictions is the situation. Many times they took something to mean a prediction and finally something else appeared. Yehudah was given the twelfth throne of heaven in a prophecy, but he was completely deprived of heaven. And sometimes gave Peter the keys of heaven and sometimes made him a devil. In the same way, it is known from the Bible that the revelation of Jesus Christ was not very clear and many prophecies could not be fulfilled because of them, but they were fulfilled in their true meaning. However, all these things definitely establish the principle that the Prophets (peace be upon them) sometimes are mistaken/wrong/at fault in the interpretation and interpretation of prophecies. As far as the words of revelation are concerned, they are without a doubt children of the first class, but the Prophets have a habit of sometimes giving some detail on their part even in ijtihad. And since they are human beings, there is sometimes a possibility of error in interpretation, but there is no room for this error in matters of religion and belief, because there is a great order in their preaching from Allah and they are also taught to the prophets in practice. Thus, our Prophet (peace and blessings of Allah be upon him) was also shown Paradise and Hell in verses which are Mutawatir.
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Ruhani Khuzain-3, page 473
Izala Auham
Rough Translation
“””It should not be surprising if the complete truth regarding Ibne Maryam (Jesus) and Dajjal was not revealed to the Holy Prophet Muhammad (SAW) because of lack of any exact prototype. Neither did the true meanings of the 70 Ba’a (1 Ba’a = 4 arm length = about 280 yards) and nor did Allah’s revelation guide him (SAW) towards the deep mystery of Gog and Magog and nor the exact composition of Da’abatul Ardh (Beast of the Earth) was revealed. “””
Transliteration
“”hum kay sukhtay hain kay agar aan Hazrat (Saw) pay ibne maryam or dajjal kee haqeeqatay kamaala bavajood na majood hone kisse nomoona kay munkashif na hoi tee, to kush tuju kaa baat nay…”””
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Links and Related Essay’s
Izala Auham (1891), Part-1 and 2, quotes and background information – ahmadiyyafactcheckblog
Saleem Meer vs. Bro Imtiaz-2025-Part-3 (2:13:25 til END)(1-4-25 debate) – ahmadiyyafactcheckblog
Izala Auham (1891), Part-1 and 2, quotes and background information
https://x.com/VintageFreeMind/status/1818800879417299261/video/1
Mirza Ghulam Ahmad and the concept of Dajjal – ahmadiyyafactcheckblog
Mirza Ghulam Ahmad, Dābbat al-Arḍ, The Beast of the Earth, Quran 27:82 – ahmadiyyafactcheckblog
https://x.com/ahmadiyyafacts/status/1818824661163294830?s=46&t=HTqZKquoOvKbgoBAF2aQcg
https://www.tiktok.com/t/ZPRoC3ohu/
https://ahmadiyyafactcheckblog.com/2021/09/05/who-is-saleem-mir-aka-mindroaster-mir/
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