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MGA writes in opposition to the Islamic view of the miraculous birth of Esa (as)

Intro
Noorudin and his team (Maulvi Abdul Kareem and Mufti Sadiq) believed that Esa (as) had a biological father before they had ever met Mirza Ghulam Ahmad, they took this new belief from Sir Syed, who wrote it in 1880. They all worked together in Jammu, with Noorudin being the boss. Nonetheless, Noorudin and his team held the belief that Esa (as) had a biological father until 1903, wherein it is reported by Noorudin himself that he was forced to change his position on the order of MGA. However, after MGA died, per Lahori-Ahmadi sources, Noorudin ordered Muhammad Ali to write in his commentary of the Quran that Esa (As) had a biological father.  The Qadiani branch went on to call the miraculous birth of Esa (as) as less then a miracle and some sort of rationally explained phenomenon. Obviously, the classic islamic view is that Esa (as) was born miraculously, just like Adam (as). By the will of Allah.  

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The reference
1893
Ruhani Khazain, volume 6 ,Jang-e-Muqadas, page 280-281

“Do you believe birth of Jesus without father? Birth of Jesus without father doesn’t amaze me, Hazrat Adam was born without father and mother, Now rainy season is near, (you should) must go out and see how many insects get born itself. Therefore it’s a mistake to take it as proof of Jesus’s being God.”

Urdu Transliteration
“Masih ka bin baap paida hona mantay hain ya nahi?”
“Masih ka bin baap paida honay mari nagah ma koi ajoba baat nahi, Hazrat Adam AS maa or baap dono nahi rakhtay tah. Ab Kareeb Barsat Aati Ha, Zuroor Bahir Ja Kar Daikhien K Kitnay Keeray Mokohray Baghair Maa Baap K Paida Ho Jatay Hain. Pas es sa Masih ki khudai ka suboot nakalna sirf ghalti ha.”(Ruhani Khazain volume 6 Jang-e-Muqadas page 280-281)

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1896

Philosophy of the Teachings of Islam

“””We observe daily that thousands of insects infect impure and stale foods and are generated in unwashed wounds. Dirty linen secretes hundreds of lice and all sorts of worms are generated inside a person’s stomach. It cannot be said that all these come from outside or can be observed descending from heaven.”””
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1902

ROR, February–1902
On page 72:

“””On the other hand, learned physicians of the Greek and Indian schools have given instances of such cases, rare though they be, and shown the possibility of a child being formed in the mother’s womb without the seed of a man””””
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1906
Chashma Masihi 28, RK 356)(See also the online english edition of this book, see, page 29

When thousands of insects are born by themselves during the rainy season, and Adam (as) was also born without parents, it is no proof of Jesus’ eminence if he, too, was born in the same manner. In fact, being born without a father deprives a person of certain faculties.
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1908
Chashma’-e-Ma‘rifat, Ruhani Khaza’in, vol. 23, pages 171-172

“””And this is one of the mysteries of nature (from God) that it has been noticed that if you hit a squirrel with a rock or stick the squirrel appears to be dead and while the injury is fresh if you bury the squirrels head in a pile of cow manure (gobar) the squirrel becomes alive and runs away in just a few minutes. If a fly lands in water and dies, so too does the fly become alive and flies away. And some other animals like bees other terrestrial insects die in severe cold and remain in the dirt and stuck to walls, then, when summer arrives they become alive. Who can understand these mysteries except for God Almighty””””

Scans
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1908
Via Barahin i Ahmadiyya, Vol. 5, online english edition

“””It is the law of God that He has not made any human being unique in any aspect, and no one can say that he has such and such characteristic that no one else has. Had such been the case, this would form the basis for holding such a person as being worthy of worship. During the time of our Prophet, may peace and blessings of Allah be upon him, some Christians presented the uniqueness of Hadrat ‘Isa, may peace be upon him, as being born without a father, upon which Allah Almighty immediately replied through this verse of the Holy Quran:

Surah Al-e-‘Imran, 3:60

Meaning: ‘The case of ‘Isa [with Allah] is like the case of Adam. God created him from dust and said to him “Be”, and he was.’ In the same way was ‘Isa born of Maryam’s blood and Maryam’s fluid, and when God said ‘Be’, he was. What is so divine and unique in this trivial matter? In the rainy season, thousands of insects are born without a father or mother, and come out of the earth on their own; no one declares them to be God, no one worships them, no one prostrates before them. So if it is not ignorance to create such an uproar over Hadrat ‘Isa, may peace be upon him—without rhyme or reason—then what is it?

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1923, Seeratul mahdi

qarchives.com/misc/Seeratul_Mahdi_3.pdf
pdf page 114/316
Narration no. 645

” Dr.Ismail narrated to me that once we were talking about birth of Jesus. Masih Moud (mgaq) said Allah tala created Jesus without a father to show that now bani Israel are not left with a single man whose seed can father (bear) a prophet and now there is end of prophethood in this nation. And time has come for bani Ismail to bear Nabi….”

qarchives.com/misc/Seeratul_Mahdi_3.pdf
pdf page 228/316
Narration no. 801

“Molvi M Ibrahim Baqa Puri narrated to me in writing that once I said to mgaq that Allah has parised mother of Eisa (a.s.) and named her SIDDIQA (truthful , pure). Upon this mgaq said here Allah tala has mentioned mother of Eisa (a.s.) to break his ‘godhood’ and use of SIDDIQA is like we say in our language (punjabi phrase) that “o squint-eyed sister in law, I say salam to you” where the objective is to call her squinted-eyed, not to say salam. Similarly in this ayat real objective is to prove that Essa a.s. had a mother which is aginst goodhood not to show TRUTHFULNESS of Maryam “

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Links and Related Essays

https://ahmadiyyafactcheckblog.com/2017/01/25/mirza-ghulam-ahmad-and-his-team-went-back-and-forth-in-terms-of-if-jesus-had-a-biological-father-or-not/

https://ahmadiyyafactcheckblog.com/2017/01/02/mufti-muhammad-sadiq-was-a-student-of-noorudin-pre-1891/

https://ahmadiyyafactcheckblog.com/2017/09/29/maulana-nur-ud-din-wrote-a-book-entitled-nur-ud-din-1904-mga-was-born-in-1839/

https://ahmadiyyafactcheckblog.com/2017/10/07/noor-uddin-secretly-disagreed-with-mirza-ghulam-ahmad-on-the-birth-of-esa-as/

http://www.muslim.org/books/f-ahm-mv/ch12.htm#u

https://ahmadiyyafactcheckblog.com/2016/11/02/muhammad-ali-the-lahori-ahmadi-denies-the-miraculous-birth-of-esa-as-in-1917/

https://www.alislam.org/library/books/Fountain-of-Christianity.pdf

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MGA claims that Arabs drank alcohol 5 times per day

Intro
MGA and his team made many strange remarks about Muhammad (saw) and his companions. In one such statement, MGA claims that the reason that Allah ordered Muslims to pray 5 times per day was because that was the frequency of alcohol consumption in their culture.

The Quote
“””Five times prayer was set because arabs use to drink alchol five times a day .even it is approved by Quran that every sect got the (a person )to warn ………”””
( ref : malfozat 5 page 182 )

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MGA mis-quotes hadith in 1898

Intro
MGA and his team mis-quoted the Quran and hadith many times in their business career.  Here is another example.  This quote seems to be from 1898, before MGA claimed prophethood.

The Quote
“”””It is written in Prophetic Ahadith that at the time of the advent of the Promised Messiah, this dispersal of spirituality will be such that women will begin to receive revelation, juveniles will prophecy and common people will speak with the Holy Spirit.”””

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The error
This story comes from the Bible, not Islamic tradition.  Below is the quote from the Bible.  

Acts 2:16-18New King James Version (NKJV)

16 But this is what was spoken by the prophet Joel:

17 ‘And it shall come to pass in the last days, says God,
That I will pour out of My Spirit on all flesh;
Your sons and your daughters shall prophesy,
Your young men shall see visions,
Your old men shall dream dreams.
18 And on My menservants and on My maidservants
I will pour out My Spirit in those days;
And they shall prophesy.

Conclusion
Opium is a hellauva drug.  MGA and his friends kept mixing their chai with opium and thus misquotes much of islamic tradition. 

MGA says that only he will ever be called a “Prophet” (1907), no one else

Intro
In 1907, MGA gives an exhaustive explanation as to why only he was given the title of prophet in the entire ummah of Islam.  This is a contradictory position, since we know that Ahmadis argue that prophethood is open and available for all.  Further, Ahmadis from the Qadiani sect believe that their Khilafat will last til the day of judgement.  Moreover, they secretly believe that only a Khalifa of Ahmadiyya will ever be able to claim prophethood.

Further, in 1916, Mahmud Ahmad vehemently wrote that even 1000 prophets can come and etc etc etc.  However, that is a cleverly crafted double-statement.  Since, in the depths of his heart, Mahmud Ahmad wanted to secure a Khilafat for him and his family.

The Quote
“”From one aspect I am an ‘ummatee’ [follower] and from another aspect, due to the beneficence of the prophethood of His Holiness [Muhammad], blessings of Allaah and peace be upon him, [I] am also a prophet. And the intent of [the term] prophet is only [to connote] that I receive abundant converse and address from God Almighty. The point is that, as Mujaddid Saahib Sarhindee [Sarhindee the Reviver] has written in his books, even though some individuals of this [Muslim] nation have [received or do receive] the special [treatment of] Godly converse and address and will remain special [receiving this treatment] till Resurrection but the person who is honored abundantly with this converse and address and who is abundantly made aware of matters of the unseen, that [person] is called a prophet. Now let it be clear that it
has been prophesied in the Prophet’s hadeeths that, from among the followers of His Holiness [Muhammad], blessings of Allaah and peace be upon him, a person will appear [or be born] who will be referred to as E’esaa [Jesus] and ibn-e-Maryam [son of Mary] and will be known by the name of [i.e., known as] a prophet. … And this thing is a proven matter that the extent to which God Almighty has made converse and address with me and the extent to which matters of the unseen have been made known to me, no person besides myself has been granted this favor in thirteen hundred Hijree [calendar] years. If some person denies this, the burden of proof is on his neck [i.e., on him]. The point is that in this abundant portion of Godly revelation and unseen matters, from this [Muslim] nation, I am the only special individual and all the ‘auliyaa’ [saints or friends of God] and ‘abdaal’ [saints who move from place to place to hide from public view] and ‘aqtaab’ [religious mendicants, holding a special title of rank] who have gone by before me in this [Muslim] nation – they were not given this abundant portion of this favor/blessing. Hence, for this reason, only I was specially selected for getting the name [i.e., title] of prophet and all the other people are not deserving of this name [i.e., title] because abundance of revelation and abundance of [perception of] unseen matters is a condition of this and that condition is not found in them. And it was necessary that it should have been so, so that the prophecy of His
Holiness [Muhammad], blessings of Allaah and peace be upon him, could have been fulfilled with clarity. Because, if other righteous ones who have preceded me, [if] they too, to the same extent, had received a portion of Godly converse and address and unseen matters, they would have become deserving of being known as prophets [and] then in that case a crack [or fault] would have occurred in the prophecy of His Holiness [Muhammad], blessings of Allaah and peace be upon him. That is why the wisdom of God Almighty prevented those respected people from obtaining this favor in a complete manner, just as it appears in authentic hadeeths that such a person will be one only [so that] that prophecy be fulfilled. [RK, v. 22, pp. 406-407; starts at 4th line from top of p. 406, skips some lines below middle of p. 406, then goes on
till about middle of p. 407; Haqeeqat-ul-Wahee; published May 1907]”””

1908 Quote
“””This word ‘nabuwwat’ [prophethood] that has been adopted [i.e., adopted by Mirza Ghulam Ahmad] is entirely from God Almighty. A person to whom some thing [some item of information] is abundantly conveyed by God Almighty, by way of prophecy, [such a person] is referred to as a ‘nabee’ [prophet]. … Remember that the chain [or system] of prophethood will remain established till Resurrection [‘silsilah-enabuwwat qayaamat tak qaa-im rahay gaa’]. [MALFOOZAAT, v. 10, p. 451; recorded under the date May 25, 1908]””””

Some conclusions
It seems that MGA was looking to deter Ahmadis from claiming prophethood.  This is the argument that him and his team came up with.  MGA claimed prophethood in 1901, and claimed that anyone could become a prophet, however, just a few years later, he changed him mind.

MGA and his team also forget that in the 1898 era, MGA wrote that:

“”””It is written in Prophetic Ahadith that at the time of the advent of the Promised Messiah, this dispersal of spirituality will be such that women will begin to receive revelation, juveniles will prophecy and common people will speak with the Holy Spirit.”””  See here.

 

Ahmadis in the Israeli Military??

Intro
This blog entry was spawned as a result of some research work that I did many years ago. I found some data about Ahmadis in Israel which was incorrect. The reference claimed that there were many Ahmadis serving in the Israeli military as of 1972. That is not true. The reference simply says that there are 600 Ahmadis in Israel by 1972, and it incorrectly states that they are from Pakistan. It then says that since they are citizens, they can also serve in the Israeli military.

Also watch my video on the history of Ahmadiyya in Israel herein and my tik tok and instagram video.
Continue reading “Ahmadis in the Israeli Military??”

Izala Auham quotes (1890-1891)

Intro
Izala Auham is a book that Ahmadis will never translate. MGA and his team made lots of errors in this book. This blog entry is simply an attempt to collect all the refs from this book and present them to the world. Izala Auham, Ruhani khazian vol 3, and encompasses these pages numbers, Part 1 – pp.1-424, Part 2 – 426-1000. Part-2 seems to have been published in September of 1891 as mentioned on page 948. Muhammad Ali had also written that this book was published in September of 1891 (In 1915, see Prophethood in Islam). Shaikh Noor Ahmad had this book published at the Riaz e Hind Press. On the cover of this book, he writes “Mujadid of the time”, “Messenger (Mursal-e-yadanee) of God”, “The Appointed (mamur-e rahmani) of the gracious Allah” and “Messiah of the Time”. This book was received in the British library on January of 1893.

MGA also claimed that 1000’s of additional Messiah’s could appear in the future, this has led to many new claimants within #ahmadiyya.
Continue reading “Izala Auham quotes (1890-1891)”

Ahmadis lie about Malfoozaat

Intro
We all know that Ahmadis have been editing and inventing writings or sayings of MGA since at least 1882.  This entry exposes the fraud of Malfoozat and how they continued to publish material from thin air, as Mahmud Ahmad continued to create new data that supported his family business aka the ahmadiyya khilafat.

The story of Malfoozat
Mulfoozat printed in 1936-Jild 1-so if they were able to print and compile this in 1936 – It covers the time of MGA life from 1891-1899 – He dies in 1908 and also he was progressively getting ill -how on earth Mulfoozat become so many volumes -did they collect it from islamic books and made volumes outof them? where is the vol 2 -which they promised – printed 1936 – pakistan comes into being in 1947 -the years between 1936 and 1947 – there was so much turmoil that next printing of Ruhani Khazian (mulfoozat was part of it)started in 1960,s in rabwah- so my point is that how this one volume becomes 5 or 6 or 7 or 8 or however many.

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Sir Syed’s view on Esa (as)–1882

Intro
Obviously, MGA took all of his theories on religion from other people.  Sir Syed began publishing his commentary of the Quran in 1880, however, the section which concerns Esa (as) was published (see Nuzhat Haneef) in 1882, MGA almost immediately began calling himself as “like-esa” or “Maseel-e-Maseeh”. It’s important to note that it was Noorudin who urged MGA to do so. Later on, MGA also copied Sir Syed’s swoon theory and passed it off as his own (see Jesus in India, 1908 and Nuzhat Haneef). MGA also attracted lots of people who were already following Sir Syed’s new ideas on Islam, like Maulvi Abdul Karim and others. Sir Syed also denied the entire concept of the Mahdi in this era. The truth is that MGA knew about the new beliefs of Sir Syed as early as 1872 and began to slowly adopt them. However, he lied about his true beliefs from 1876–1890.
Continue reading “Sir Syed’s view on Esa (as)–1882”

Noorudin and Abdul Karim were influenced by Sir Syed

Intro
As we all know, Noorudin, Maulvi Abdul Karim and MGA were all influenced by the writings of Sir Syed.  Sir Syed denied all miracles in Islam by 1880, he denied the Islamic creation theory, the return of Esa (as), the arrival of the Mahdi, the physicality of the Mir’aj, all the hadith work, etc etc etc.  Obviously, Noorudin and Abdul Karim knew each other in 1880 and in the below I present data which proves this fact.  They would all eventually join MGA’s team of Mullahs and ghost writers, Maulvi Abdul Karim, Maulvi Mufti Muhammad Sadiq, Maulvi Sher Ali, Hakim Fazl Din of Bhera, Noorudin and many others.  Some other people who came independently, yet still joined MGA’s team was Maulvi Muhammad Ahsan Amrohi, who was also a member of the Ahl-e-Hadith sect, in fact, uptil his job with MGA, he worked for the founder of the Ahl-e-Hadith sect, Syed Nazeer Husain from Delhi and Siddiq Hasan Khan of Bhopal. Maulvi Muhammad Ali was another, however, he came via Khwaja Kamaluddin and the prominent Ahmadi’s of Lahore.

The Quote
“””Humble servant (yaqoob Ali) narrates that Hazrat Moulvi Nurdin Khalifa Awal- in the beginning also was influenced by the thoughts and ways of Sir Syed. But in the company, and training of Hazrat Sahib (MGA) -slowly the impression of sir syed washed away. Moulvi Abdul Karim also in the beginning were fond of Sir Syed.”””
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Nuzhat Haneef
She wrote about this topic in her book.  Feel free to review that.

Other Data
Lahori-Ahmadis confirmed that Abdul Karim was influenced by Sir Syed (See the HOPE bulletin, Feb 2008).

Afzal Upal references
He mentions that MGA defended the Orthodox views on the return of Esa (as), as opposed to Sir Syed (M. A. Upal, Towards a computational science of culture, in Proceedings of the27th Annual Meeting of the Cognitive Science Society, page 2568, Lawrence Earlbaum, Mahwah, NJ, 2005). 

Links and Related Essays
https://ahmadiyyafactcheckblog.com/2018/03/06/the-life-and-death-of-maulvi-abdul-karim-sialkoti/

https://ahmadiyyafactcheckblog.com/2018/03/06/per-mga-noorudin-was-worth-1000-maulvi-abdul-karim-sialkotis/

https://ahmadiyyafactcheckblog.com/2017/07/24/dr-abdul-hakim-khan-patialvi-mentions-the-death-of-maulvi-abdul-karim-in-his-correspondence-with-mga/

Click to access hope200802_abdulkarimsialkotipromisedmessiah.pdf

https://ahmadiyyafactcheckblog.com/2018/03/08/the-agonizing-death-of-maulvi-abdul-karim-sialkoti-1905/

https://ahmadiyyafactcheckblog.com/2017/06/12/lecture-sialkot-was-delivered-by-maulvi-abdul-kareem-not-mga-1904/

https://ahmadiyyafactcheckblog.com/2016/09/30/maulvi-abdul-kareem-claims-prophethood-per-mga-maulvi-amrohi-disagrees/

https://ahmadiyyafactcheckblog.com/2016/12/24/mirza-ghulam-ahmad-knew-maulvi-abdul-karim-since-the-mid-1860s-in-sialkot/

https://ahmadiyyafactcheckblog.com/2016/10/24/noorudin-and-abdul-karim-were-influenced-by-sir-syed/

https://ahmadiyyafactcheckblog.com/2017/07/17/ahmadiyya-leadership-lied-about-the-first-bait-ceremony-in-1889/

https://ahmadiyyafactcheckblog.com/2017/01/02/mufti-muhammad-sadiq-was-a-student-of-noorudin-pre-1891/

https://ahmadiyyafactcheckblog.com/2017/06/27/maulvi-abdul-kareem-lived-exclusively-with-mga-on-the-3rd-floor-of-mgas-house/

https://ahmadiyyafactcheckblog.com/2018/03/24/the-wife-of-maulvi-abdul-karim-sialkoti-zainab-bibi/

https://ahmadiyyafactcheckblog.com/2017/07/17/how-i-became-an-ahmadi-by-dr-basharat-ahmad-the-famous-lahori-ahmadi-who-wrote-mujadid-e-azam/

https://ahmadiyyafactcheckblog.com/2017/11/25/some-brief-notes-on-the-philosophy-of-the-teachings-of-islam-aka-islami-usool-ki-falasifi-1896/

https://www.alislam.org/r.php?q=Shadi%20Khan

Click to access reviewreligionsenglish1905.pdf

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