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August 2016

Ahmadis lie about Al-Khidr, it causes prominent Arab-Ahmadis to leave them

Intro
Just recently, an Arab-Ahmadi, who was a top scholar of Ahmadiyya, has publically left Ahmadiyya. His name is Hani Taher, and he worked with MTA as an Arab-Scholar. Many blogs have reported his apostacy from Ahmadiyya. In the past, he had even beefed with my sister site, thecult.info, he was known for defending Ahmadiyya endlessly and getting to paid to do it.

Mr. Tahir seems to have quoted the Ahmadiyya inconsistency on 18:65 of the Quran, in other words the story of the famous Al-Khidr. There is no clear consensus of opinion in Sunni-Islamic thought, however, it is open to interpretation, and generally it could be agreed upon that Al-Khidr was either a prophet or some type of special servant. Sufis have a unique position and Shias have some unique positions on Al-Khidr. Obviously, this topic has been open to interpretation for many years.  

Nonetheless, the Ahmadi position on Al-Khidr is that he was actually Muhammad (saw) (nauzobillah) (see page 1522). This is per the official 5-volume commentary of the Quran by Ahmadis which seems to have been published in 1962 (see the preface) and was written and prepared by Malik Ghulam Fareed. It is interesting to note that Mirza Mahmud Ahmad was unable to write a commentary by himself and needed the help of his employees aka Ahmadi-Mullahs. Mahmud Ahmad claims to have written 2 commentaries on the Quran, a smaller one, and a bigger one. However, Mahmud Ahmad seems to have never written a complete commentary of the quran in urdu, which is odd, since his contemporary, Muhammad Ali, had finished his in 1917, in english and his urdu version was then published a few years later.  Nonetheless, Mahmud Ahmad seems to have written in his Smaller-Commentary on the Quran that Al-Khidr was actually Muhammad (saw) (nauzobillah).

So this is the current Ahmadi viewpoint on the topic of Al-Khidr. That much we know. So what was Hani Tahir’s issue then? His issue was that MGA’s writings on this topic were being purposely suppressed in an attempt to lie and promote the view of Mahmud Ahmad. However, this info wasnt made readily available to Hani Tahir. Since the books that held the view of MGA on Al-Khidr were Urdu-only books and they had never been translated into english, nor were they planned to be. However, in 2014, Ahmadiyya published Braheen-e-Ahmadiyya, volumes 1-3 and the Al-Khidr data became available to the english reading people of the world.

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“””It is obvious that Khidr was not a Prophet, or else he would have been among his own people and not wandering about in forests and on riverbanks. God Himself does not refer to him as a Prophet or Messenger, and yet He labels the knowledge Khidr was given as certain and categorical, because ‘ilm according to the terminology of the Holy Quran refers to definite knowledge.””””(Braheen-e-Ahmadiyya, vol. 3, page 231).

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1909
Nuzul al-Masih

Click to access Ruhani-Khazain-Vol-18.pdf

Page 89, See Muhammad Ali’s “Prophethood in Islam”

“Similarly, Khidr was not a prophet but was endowed with divine knowledge. And if his inspiration was just conjectural (zanni) and not definite, why did he kill a child unjustly? And if the inspiration of the Holy Prophet’s companions that (the body of) the Holy Prophet (peace and blessings of Allah be upon him), should be given a bath, was not absolute and definite, why did they act upon it… Thus, if a person, due to lack of insight, rejects my revelation, then if he claims to be a Muslim and is not an atheist in disguise, he should firmly believe that absolute and definite communication from God does exist. Since definite revelation from God was given to most of the men and women of previous nations, although they were not prophets, (likewise) in this ummah, too, the existence of absolute and definite revelation is essential so that this ummah being the best of the nations, may not become the worst of them.”
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1922
https://www.alislam.org/library/books/DivineManifestations.pdf

“””Furthermore, such revelations are a stain on Islam, for the People of Israel were given such
unequivocal revelations that the mother of Mosesas had no doubts about the truth and certainty of the revelation she received and cast her innocent child into the river. The Prophet Khidar even killed a child as a result of revelation. But this Ummah (may Allah have mercy on it) did not even attain the spiritual stature that was granted to Israelite women.”””

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Conclusions

So these are the wranglings of Ahmadiyya. They contradict themselves every single day.  In fact, they seem to have responded to Hani Tahir here. However, not in english yet, not even in Urdu.  It is obvious that Ahmadis are using propaganda tactics similar to Scientology. Obviously, MGA took a certain position on al-Khidr, and he had every right to develop his own unique theory on who Al-Khidr was. However, the issue here is the cover-up by Ahmadiyya. Ahmadiyya leadership knew that Mahmud Ahmad contradicted MGA on this topic and many many others. Nonetheless, they covered it up…or in Urdu, they threw “Mitteee” (dirt) on the topic and tried to bury it. In 1917, when the Lahoris had already split, they published their official commentary on the Quran and totally avoided the topic of whether was a prophet or not and they just left it at that.

Furthermore, the real criminals here are not the Ahmadis…no!!!! They are the victims of exploitation. In fact, it is the Ahmadi-Mullahs who should be arrested for knowingly lying to the masses and supporting a corrupt system of Peerism. These Ahmadi-Mullahs need to stand up, we dont care if you lose your job, the mirza family fraud has gone on tooo long. We know they hid money in Panama, we know that the Mirza family is only in it for the money and have been exploiting Ahmadis since 1889. Please stop!

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Links and Related Essay’s

https://www.alislam.org/library/books/DivineManifestations.pdf

Click to access Ruhani-Khazain-Vol-18.pdf


https://aaiil.org/text/acus/mga/261ref.shtml

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Ahmadiyya and its violent past, the early 1930’s

Intro
I had recently mentioned in a FB posting that Ahmadiyya had a history of violence/eroticism. I wanted to briefly cover Ahmadiyya in the 1930’s, in terms of the sources and scenarios. So here goes:

In the late 1920’s, almost every British govt. official believed that Qadiani branch of Ahmadiyya would soon seek to create a state of their own (see “History of Ahmadiyya”, vol. 7, page 414). Mr. Obrein made his personal thoughts known to most of the British leaders of the Punjab (see page 169). In fact, the Ahmadi khalifa met the Governor of the Punjab, Sir W.M. Hailey and told him about his ideas of globalization. Mahmud Ahmad was very bold in those days and felt like the British govt was his partner in crime. The facts that I will play out in the next few paragraphs proves my point.
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MGA lied about his Opium use

Intro
MGA only mentioned Opium once in all his and his team’s writings. That reference occurred in 1903, as MGA was addressing a Hindu mela in Qadian (see page 347). MGA was addressing the Hindus of Qadian and totally denied using Opium for any reason, and in fact, he spoke ill of Jesus Christ (the god of the Christians) as well as Esa (as) (a special messenger/prophet in Islam). This type of criticism is shunned in Islam and Muslims are ordered to never belittle the Gods of other religions. Nevertheless, here is the only reference from MGA and his teams writings that specifically address opium use :

    • “I remember an incident and which is that I have Diabetes for several years. I urinate 15-20 times daily and sometimes I urinate 100 times per day. Due to sugar in urine, I also get infection in urine and due to excessive urination I become very weak. Once a friend suggested that Opium is beneficial in Diabetes, therefore there is no harm if I use it as medicine. I answered: ‘It is very nice of you to have sympathise with me but if I form a habit of taking Opium than I am afraid that people will joke that THE FIRST MESSIAH WAS AN ALCOHOLIC AND THE SECOND ONE AN OPIUM ADDICT.'”

Naseem Da’awat, Roohani Khazain vol.19 p.434-435, by Mirza Ghulam Ahmad Qadiani (this book is not in english). 

FACTS THAT EMERGE FROM THIS STATEMENT

MGA claims that he wont take Opium for medicinal purposes, he never said Diabetes only, even though it might be OK in islamic thought, and since many Muslims had taken pure-opium for Diabetes treatment, nonetheless, MGA insisted on publically denying the use of such a drug, and simply for the reason that the general public might then poke fun and say that the first Messiah was an alcoholic and the second an opium addict. The irony here is that MGA was also a person that joked and called the first messiah as a drunkard and etc and he stole these writings from Lekh Ram and his polemics vs. Christianity (see page 183). Obviously, when MGA addressed Hindus, he loved to revile the God of Christians.

AHMADI ATTEMPTS AT EXPLANATION

Ahmadis have written many alibis in terms of this statement, however, they always add a disclaimer which states that its unofficial.Their rebuttals are filled with academic dishonesty, in fact, they refuse to acknowledge the fact that 20 years after the above reference (In Seeratul Mahi, 1923 edition and the Al-Fazl of 1929), the sons of MGA’s seem to have told the world that MGA was in fact taking opium for medicinal purposes as early as 1884, Mirza Bashir Ahmad was the same son who claimed that the Ahmadi-Khilafat wouldnt last til the day of judgement, he also told the world that MGA was irresponsible with his fathers pension money and squandered it with his cousin/brother. Mirza Bashir Ahmad seems like a disgruntled son who spilled the beans on the family business and his brothers Khilafat.

Moreover, Mirza Bashir Ahmad tells us that in 1884, MGA invented a medicine called ZADHAM-E-ISHQ (or the love potion) (see page 1010, 2009 online english edition of Tadhkirah) and attributed it to his God and thus prescribed himself. However, it is interesting to note that Noorudin had already been prescribing the same medicine to his patients before he ever met MGA (see page 50). It seems that Noorudin may have been the person who introduced MGA to opium laced medicine. We all know that many people accused him of being MGA’s chief ghost writer.

Further, in 1898, the plague was rampant in India, MGA and his team seem to have invented a medicine that would prevent plague, it was called Tiryaq-i-ilahi (see page 449). Its main ingredient was Opium.
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Here is what Mahmud Ahmad said in 1929:

    Hazrat Maseeh Mow’ood prepared a medicine ‘TIRYAQ-e-ILAHI’ under instructions from God and its one of the main constituent was OPIUM and Huzoor (Mirza Ghulam) gave this medicine, with a little more addition of Opium, to Hazrat Khalifa Awwal (Hakeem Nuruddin, the 1st Successor of Mirza Ghulam) for more than 6 months and off and on, and he used it himself as well during the attacks of various illnesses.”

Article of Mian Mahmood Ahmad Saheb, Khalifa Qadian, Akhbar Al-Fazl vol.17 No.6 p.2 Dated 19th July 1929.
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    “During my childhood, he (Mirza Ghulam) gave me OPIUM for sickness. Gave it to me for six months continuously.”

Statement of Mirza Basheeruddin Mahmood, Khalifa Qadian, Minhaj-ul-Talibeen, p.73.

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Conclusions

It should be noted that the British Govt stepped in and banned MGA’s cure for the plague, since it was nothing short of a quack remedy that was concocted by Noorudin.

Obviously, MGA was using Opium-laced-medicine since at least 1884 and giving it out to everyone and anyone, even his infant son, however, he lied about it to the masses. This is the issue that Ahmadis seem to misunderstand. They also try to act like MGA simply didnt take it because of its habitual nature, however, in Islam it was OK to take opium as a consequence of Diabetes, however, your salaat would be in question.  Since the Quran bans prayers whilst intoxicated.

Secondly, if MGA was on opium for his entire life, or at least since 1884, are prayers allowed by such a patient? Is this the reason why MGA never led salaat? Is this the reason why MGA never gave a public speech? Was Opium the reason that MGA was tempted to make these audacious claims? MGA never smoked Opium, he simply took it as a mixture with his Lassi (see page 1034, of the 2009 online english edition of Tadhkirah). Is this the reason that no one witnessed MGA taking opium? Since it was so hard to detect in those days? We all know that it was reported by the Al-Fazl that MGA’s teachers were opium addicts. It seems that this is where MGA developed the same habit.

Whatever the motivations of MGA were….it is clear that he was addicted to taking opium as soon as Noorudin showed up onto the Ahmadiyya scene. Is this the prophet that Ahmadis admire so much? Is this the religion that most Ahmadis are totting all over the internet as they attempt to defraud every single government on the planet?

Links and Related Essays

https://ahmadiyyafactcheckblog.wordpress.com/2017/07/10/mirza-ghulam-ahmad-used-poison-opium-and-wine-in-his-medicines/

https://ahmadiyyafactcheckblog.com/2016/12/01/mirza-ghulam-ahmads-famous-pension-story/

https://ahmadiyyafactcheckblog.com/2016/11/24/mirza-imam-ud-din-the-cousin-of-mirza-ghulam-ahmad-1835-1904/

https://ahmadiyyafactcheckblog.wordpress.com/2017/06/21/tiryaq-e-ilahi-never-worked-on-anyone-it-was-just-a-super-opium-drug/

https://ahmadiyyafactcheckblog.wordpress.com/2016/11/14/mga-looked-like-an-opium-addict/

https://ahmadiyyafactcheckblog.com/2017/07/23/mirza-ghulam-ahmad-was-always-giving-poison-to-his-followers-smh/

https://ahmadiyyafactcheckblog.wordpress.com/2017/06/23/mufti-muhammad-sadiq-was-drugged-by-mirza-ghulam-ahmad/

https://ahmadiyyafactcheckblog.wordpress.com/2017/07/10/mirza-ghulam-ahmad-used-poison-opium-and-wine-in-his-medicines/

https://ahmadiyyafactcheckblog.wordpress.com/2016/12/03/mgas-tried-to-cure-plague-in-british-india-with-a-super-opium-medicine-that-didnt-work/

https://ahmadiyyafactcheckblog.com/2016/11/07/mgas-teachers-were-opium-addicts-2/

https://ahmadiyyafactcheckblog.com/2017/09/14/mirza-ghulam-ahmad-was-high-in-opium-247/

https://ahmadiyyafactcheckblog.com/2017/09/22/mirza-ghulam-ahmad-was-overdosing-on-opium-everyday/

https://ahmadiyyafactcheckblog.com/2017/12/22/mirza-ghulam-ahmad-liked-his-opium-sprinkled-into-his-lassi/

https://ahmadiyyafactcheckblog.com/2017/08/16/ahmadiyya-leadership-was-selling-weird-medicines-in-1939-which-claimed-to-guarantee-a-son-to-any-man/

https://ahmadiyyafactcheckblog.com/2017/07/25/mirza-ghulam-ahmad-was-addicted-to-paan-beetle-leef/

https://ahmadiyyafactcheckblog.com/2017/07/30/what-is-zadham-e-ishq-aka-the-love-potion/

https://ahmadiyyafactcheckblog.com/2017/12/17/nooruddin-treated-mirza-ghulam-ahmad-for-impotency-and-many-others-with-opium/

https://ahmadiyyafactcheckblog.com/2018/02/08/mirza-basheer-uddin-mahmud-ahmad-was-poisoned-as-a-child-then-had-many-mental-issues/

https://ahmadiyyafactcheckblog.com/2018/03/30/mga-and-his-team-mixed-sauternes-wine-with-his-foods-and-medicines-at-qadian/

https://ahmadiyyafactcheckblog.com/2016/12/03/a-newspaper-the-lancet-calls-mga-a-blasphemous-idiot-1898/

https://ahmadiyyafactcheckblog.com/2018/05/03/the-british-government-banned-ahmadiyya-medicines-in-1899/

https://ahmadiyyafactcheckblog.com/2017/12/19/mirza-ghulam-ahmad-and-plommers-wine-shop/

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Wonder why we call them Qadiani?

Intro
The Ahmadi-mullahs have trained every single Ahmadi that “Qadiani” is a derogatory term and anyone that uses it is some type of extremist and should be shunned altogether. However, this is not true, the fact is, in 1914, there was a split in the Ahmadiyya movement and two opposing ideologies were created. Obviously, there is no malice when a person calls an “Ahmadi” a “Qadiani” or a “Lahori”. In fact, the Qadiani branch called the “Lahori-Ahmadis” as “Paghamis” for over 30 years and the Lahoris returned the favor by calling them “Qadiani” since 1914. It seems that Ahmadis dont have a problem calling each other names, however, they complain to the world about a nonsense issue and create additional nonsense issues that will somehow show them as a persecuted communityAs we all know, Ahmadis were debating the claims of MGA, Takfeer, his successorship, and the future of Ahmadiyya from 1909–1914. This was the era of the Khilafat of Noorudin, who’s sons were later ex-communicated and publically shunned. In fact, Noorudin even blurted out that Mahmud Ahmad hadnt understood the topic of Takfeer (1913) and had ordered Muhammad Ali to write a conclusive essay on the matter and thus put the matter to rest (1913). However, Noorudin died before any formal policy was introduced, and thus Ahmadis created different and competing ideologies in terms of MGA. Ironically, after 1923, the Qadiani branch adopted the Lahori-Ahmadi position on Takfeer and thus complicated their beliefs, similar to how Mormons dropped Polygamy for statehood with America.

Even in 1920, the Qadiani-Ahmadi’s were proudly calling themselves as Qadiani’s and Mahmudi’s (See the ref in the below).
Continue reading “Wonder why we call them Qadiani?”

Blasphemy in Islam and the Ahmadiyya cover-up

As an avid reader of global politics, business, economics, religion and sports, I felt the need to properly explain what is Blasphemy in general and what is it per Islam and the Abrahamic religions, and finally, what is its application in 2016.  This essay will also briefly cover the Ahmadiyya approach to blasphemy and its wider significance in Ahmadiyya polemics vs. the known universe.

Firstly, blasphemy was a crime in almost every organized community of humans dating back to at least Greek culture and Socrates.  Socrates was put on trial for blasphemy and impiety, and promoting Atheism and other anti-govt ideas.  In that era of our species, simply speaking against your government aka the King was always against the law and death is a common penalty, in fact, see the life of Esa (as).  Can you imagine if your King was Muslim or Christian? Obviously, if any King made Islam or Christianity as state religion, then, they would surely enforce blasphemy.  If a government did arise that refused to recognize religion, then blasphemy laws would surely die out.  However, anti government behavior would be watched and evaluated.

Just like every other government in the world, Islamic governments also had laws vs. blasphemy and they come from the Quran.  Nonetheless, the Quran appears to be vague on the matter of blasphemy, however, the hadith tell us as follows:

The Prophet said, “Who is ready to kill Ka’b ibn al-Ashraf who has really hurt Allah and His Apostle?” Muhammad bin Maslama said, “O Allah’s Apostle! Do you like me to kill him?” He replied in the affirmative. So, Muhammad bin Maslama went to him (i.e. Ka’b) and said, “This person (i.e. the Prophet) has put us to task and asked us for charity.” Ka’b replied, “By Allah, you will get tired of him.” Muhammad said to him, “We have followed him, so we dislike to leave him till we see the end of his affair.” Muhammad bin Maslama went on talking to him in this way till he got the chance to kill him. Narrated Jabir bin ‘Abdullah

Further, all 4 of the schools of Islamic thought (sunni) also believe that blasphemy should be punishable by death.  As well as Shia schools of thought.  However, even Judaism has a similar practice as well as Christianity.  So Islam is not unique in this regard, in fact all of the Abrahamic religions and random governments have had the same practice.

The Ahmadiyya approach has been to lie.  They refuse to both acknowledge the hadith on blasphemy, or even call them totally false.  Moreover, it is unclear whether MGA ever wrote on blasphemy, however, MGA was always quick to pray for anyone to die if he suspected that they blasphemed Muhammad (saw), which is equivalent to the ruling by the 4 schools of thought.   So Ahmadis are now tasked to show us what MGA actually wrote on the topic.

Conclusion

Blasphemy only changed upon the inception of the US government, however, it remained in smaller forms or in political forms.  Nowadays the United Nations is working on eliminating blasphemy, however, that is an impossible task.

So what should Muslims around the world in terms of blasphemy?  Well, there are many laws in the Quran that most Muslim countries simply dont follow, or have added many exemptions and etc, however, this is nothing new, in terms of theft, the Quran is clear that the thieves hand should be cut off and this was the law in Arabia before Islam had arrived, however, hadith reports tell us that additional rules can also be applied to this injunction, such as setting limits on the value of the stolen goods and etc.

I have presented many facts in the case of blasphemy, I now ask the reader to judge for themselves.

 

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