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Abdul Sami Zafar tells the inside story on the May 29th, 1974 Rabwah train attacks

Intro
I have always written that Ahmadiyya leadership planned the 1974 Rabwah train attacks.  In this interview, Abdul Sami Zafar explains how Ahmadiyya leadership planned and executed the attack.  Abdul Sami is still an Ahmadi, however, he has called the Mirza family as a group of liars and thieves.  Abdul Sami still believes in MGA and that MGA was a prophet and a Messiah. That solidifies his testimony.  Further, much like all Ahmadis who were privy to this attack, he kept it a secret for 40+ years….the full interview can be found here: https://youtu.be/gytg6Wbbt4o

Abdul sami has joined a splinter sect of Ahmadis and their youtube channel is as follows: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCQiMckxUjV9tofP9mTv8aGg

Related essays
https://ahmadiyyafactcheckblog.wordpress.com/2017/07/02/an-ahmadi-spills-the-beans-on-the-rabwah-train-attack/

https://ahmadiyyafactcheckblog.com/2016/12/16/ahmadis-are-wrong-from-birth/

https://ahmadiyyafactcheckblog.com/?s=panama

He says:

  1.  Indeed, the teenagers stopped in on May 22nd, 1974 and cussed at a few Ahmadis who were there that day.
  2. Majlis Aamila then got the report and began discussing the matter.
  3. Majlis Aamila then planned everything, they sent Ahmadis to Peshawar, Sarghoda and planned the entire attack.
  4. They then began to collect local Khuddam from Rabwah and had them hide in ambush.
  5. The train-station manager was also Ahmadi, he also knew the whole story, he purposely made the train wait 30 mins at least.
  6. The attack was a success…
  7. However, the next day, Ahmadis began to be murdered and burned alive. The Mirza family had these attacks carried out and then lied about everything, They purposely got themselves declared non-muslim so as to get asylum abroad.

Also see here: https://ahmadiyyafactcheckblog.wordpress.com/2017/04/07/the-mirza-family-loved-the-persecution-they-call-is-free-press/

https://ahmadiyyafactcheckblog.com/?s=1974

https://ahmadiyyafactcheckblog.com/2017/11/04/mirza-tahir-ahmad-lied-about-ordinance-xx-and-his-exodus-from-pakistan/

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Khwaja Kamal-Ud-Din Prevents MGA From Being Jailed (1904)

Intro
In 1904, MGA had lost his court case vs. Karam ud Din.  He was set to be thrown in jail and etc.  However, he was granted bail and Khwaja Kamaluddin had the money in his pocket and paid it immediately.

Related Essay’s
https://ahmadiyyafactcheckblog.com/2017/03/04/mirza-ghulam-ahmad-lost-his-court-case-vs-karam-uddin-1904-but-won-on-appeal/

The storyline
There is yet another story that surrounds the life of Khwaja Kamaluddin sahib in connection with MGA that has seemed to be forgotten by all ahmadis (Q and L). I don’t have the time to write a perfect article on this event, which has blown me away. I feel that KK sahib loved MGA with all his heart and he proved it in 1904, the story will impress any reader, I am sure of that!

In 1904, MGA was stuck in a court case which involved Maulvi Karam Din. The story of the court case is quite famous. From my knowledge MGA only had two lawyers that served as his counsel, they were Muhammad Ali and Khwaja Kamaluddin.

The judge was an Arya Hindu, he wanted MGA to suffer one way or the other. This case dragged on with adjournment after adjournment, then, the case was transferred to another Arya Hindu judge who really disliked MGA. This judge would not allow MGA the use of a chair or even a drink of water, MGA was almost 70 years old, it was very hard for him to stand, let alone not have a drink of water. This Hindu judge had it out for MGA, he was bent on giving MGA some type of jail-time. These were the conditions that KK sahib and M. ali were given. It was very important for them to be steadfast and cognizant of the environment.

This Hindu judge had finally announced that he would give his judgement on a certain day, then he strategically changed it to a Saturday. He planned to give MGA a hefty fine which MGA would not be able to pay, MGA would be forced to spend the weekend in jail. Somehow, KK and M. ali discovered the plan of the hindu judge, I am not sure how they figured this out, maybe good lawyers are able to anticipate things of this nature?

On Saturday afternoon just before the court was to close the judge called MGA forward and gave the police orders not to allow anyone in the court room. But MGA’s lawyer (I’m not sure whether this was M. ali or KK) brushed past the police officer claiming that it was illegal for MGA to stand in front of the judge without counsel.

The lawyer (KK or m. ali) appeared just in the nick of time, the judge had ordered HMGA to pay a fine of 500 rupees, immediately the lawyer presented the money, thus saving HMGA from spending the weekend in jail.

[Note inserted by Zahid Aziz: The fine was 500 rupees for Hazrat Mirza sahib and 200 rupees for his co-defendant Hakim Fazl Din. By coincidence, before Khwaja Kamaluddin entered the court room, a former client who owed him 700 rupees handed him this money, which Khwaja sahib stuffed into his pocket in a hurry without thinking.]

I read this story in Ian Adamson’s book, “Ahmad the Guided One”. Ian Adamson did not mention the name of the lawyer who saved HMGA. There is not any other book that gives this story. I am not even sure where Ian got his data from, Ian doesn’t give any references whatsoever.

[Note inserted by Zahid Aziz: It is highly likely to be in some Urdu book of the Qadiani Jamaat. Please see my link above which shows the relevant pages about this event from Mujaddid-i Azam by Dr Basharat Ahmad.]

All praise belongs to Allah, I understand that, I surely do. Allah allowed KK to serve in this capacity. It was Allah’s will! I hope the reader doesnt get the impression that I am boasting about the accomplishments of a simple man.

The link is provided below: see pg. 306

www.alislam.org/library/books/guidedone/index.htm?page=306#top

Also see—At this link I have given the relevant pages from Mujaddid-i Azam by Dr Basharat Ahmad (v. 2, pages 975-980)

Muhammad Ali, the eventual Lahori-Ahmadi was always against Takfir, whereas the family of MGA was not (1914)

Intro
Ahmadi’s are trained to misrepresent the truth, plus they are brainwashed.  I have been engaging Ahmadi’s for 10+ years and they all play dumb when it comes to Ahmadiyya Takfir.
We have always argued that MGA and his family did open Takfir from 1906 to 1923, then they began to do silent Takfir, as they invented the term “true-islam” and began to outwardly call Muslims as kafirs only in the literal sense, however, hiding their true beliefs, which are that Muslims and the Lahori-Ahmadi’s are Kafirs.  Nonetheless, we have found a quote from Muhammad Ali, which is quoted in the Pagham e Sulh of March 1914.  This quote is from March 19, 1914, the Khalifa had died less then a week prior.

The quote
“””“I have an urge in my heart that compels me to speak out even if I have to accept all manner of tribulation. Calling the followers of the Qibla as being kafir is the crime which Hazrat Mirza
Ghulam Ahmad bitterly accused his opponent Maulvis of committing. But alas! Today we
ourselves are doing what we accused others of. I shudder at the thought of calling those who
recite the Kalima, ‘There is no God but Allah, Muhammad is the Messenger of Allah’, as
being kafirs and excluded from the fold of Islam. … I am prepared to face whatever consequences I may have to bear, and I pray to Allah to give me the strength to be steadfast
upon the truth and grant me patience in adversity.””””
— Paigham Sulh, 19 March 1914.

This was quoted in the Light magazine as of 2007
http://www.ahmadiyya.org/uk/light-apr07.pdf

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When Khwaja Kamaluddin arrived in England (1912)

Intro
Khwaja Kamaluddin is the famous Lahori-Ahmadi who arrived in England in 1912 and began converting people in the UK to Islam, as well as leading prayers at the famous Woking Mosque.  This was an Ahmadi mosque until the late 1960’s, when Bashir Misri became imam, and then signed it over to the Sunni Community in the London area.  The lahori-Ahmadi’s lost the Woking Mosque and were never able to acquire another mosque in the UK.

24th September 1912
It was the day when Khwaja Kamal-ud-Din arrived in England for the first time. During this first visit, which lasted till August 1914, he established “The Islamic Review” monthly journal and the Woking Muslim Mission in 1913.

Data from the Lahori blog editor Zahid Aziz
As the website creator and maintainer of the website www.wokingmuslim.org I felt it my duty to mark the 100th anniversary of Khwaja Kamal-ud-Din’s arrival. I have compiled an 8-page commemorative leaflet, with a 4-page insert of photographs that can go inside the leaflet, for this occasion. I hope it is interesting and informative.

Zahid Aziz’s comments on Bashir Ahmad Misri

(1) An interview on this very subject which a Harvard University researcher conducted with me face to face in 2007. See page 7 of the May 2007 issue of “The Light”, U.K. edition at this link.

(2) An article I wrote at the same time in refutation of B.A. Misri’s account is in the April 2007 issue from pages 4 to 7, at this link.

light-apr07

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The old Cult Girl confessions blog—Expontential Growth in Ahmadis? An Ex-Ahmadi shows otherwise!

Intro
About 7-8 years ago, there was an intestereing blog that popped up out of nowhere in this Ahmadiyya Awareness work.  It was ran by a girl who was trapped in Ahmadiyya.  She was from the UK and published lots of inside details about Ahmadiyya operations.  This specific entry is about the Ahmadiyya fake numbers game, which we have written about extensively here: https://ahmadiyyafactcheckblog.com/2017/07/16/the-ahmadiyya-jalsausa-is-a-marketing-event-nothing-else/

The full entry+ comments
The link–http://cultgirlconfessions.blogspot.com/2011/08/expontential-growth-ex-ahmadi-shows.html

Asalam o Alaikum readers… WASSSSSSURRRRRP! What it do in London today? How depressing is the weather? And what’s good Worldwide, I see thousands of clicks from the international community- BIG UP! Keep it coming, this is just the beginning, a ‘test stage’ if you like, but in between damning insider information on Sundays, I still need to keep you guys on the ball and so have a teeny treat for you!

This is old news, but now I have brand new readers, this will be NEW to thousands of you (yep thousands, my Blog had 8,000 hits by this morning subhanAllah).

Reason I chose this piece today is because since yesterday, I have received over 500 emails, and am being told, over and over and over and over (you get the point) how the Jamaat is growing and is huge and unstoppable! It’s doing it big time, it’s gone global, and it’s growing at the speed of light! Yes that’s right; it’s a nonstop rollercoaster ride to global domination. ERRR how about…NO! Ages ago, there was this guy who visited our forum called Khalid, and with him he brought along DAMNING inside information that showed the dismal reality of the growth of Ahmadis here in the UK. Want to take a look? OK I will show you, but be warned, it certainly isn’t a pretty site, especially for all of you who lectured me yesterday about ‘DA GROWTH OF DA AHMADIS’ (no joke ting, one guy said just that)…

(I am pasting what Khalid had written, late last year at some point):

I’ve been given the official bai’at figures for the last fifteen years in the UK. I’m sure they’ll open a few eyes as to just how much of a closed-cult the ahmadiyya really are. It shows the stark contrast between the numbers they claim (i.e. 200 million) and the dismal reality:

Official Bait Figures From 1995-2005 (UK):

Total Bai’at: 1084
Still with Jamaat: 218
Move to new Jamaat: 40
Left UK : 232
Unable to Contact: 594


So the shocking truth is that for the above ten year period, on average only 108 people joined the cult per year. Yet what’s even more shocking is that 55% of those who joined are unaccounted for!!! LOL…they can’t contact 594 out of the 1084 ahmedis that joined!!!

The below is a yearly breakdown from 2000 – 2010:

From 2000-2010:

2000-01: 122
2001-02: 48
2002-03: 58
2003-04: 95
2004-05: 38
2005-06: 45
2006-07: 75
2007-08: 67
2008-08: 25
2009-10: 61


The figures I have also show that more than 50% of those who joined are either no longer part of the jamaat or cannot be contacted!! LOL. MashAllah.. it’s wonderful how the jamaat looks after its new converts. The funny thing is a lot of those that are part of these figures where already Ahmedi, for each convert there is a comment alongside their name explaining their situation, i.e:

Born Ahmadis.renewed their ba’its. NOT right to say new ahmedi’s

OR

Was born as an Ahmadi but never kept any touch with the Jamaat or did ba’it. Recently she did bait but still is very aloof and does not like to be contacted by the Jamaat. Pays her Chanda. Is related to mrs Amtul Rasheed and does not like to be put in this category. Her father was a sahabi.


So these figures are actually highly flattering, as a lot of those they consider new ahmedis (and are part of these figures) are in fact not new ahmedis.

The funny thing as well, is that only a small percentage of these “new ahmedi’s” are white british. For reference the breakdown by nationality for the 2009-2010 period is shown below:

English British: 7
Mix British: 2
Palestine/Egyptian: 1
IVOIRIAN: 3
Kenyan: 1
Kenyan/British: 4
KYRGYZ: 2
Mauritian: 1
Pakistani: 22
Pakistani British: 3
Polish: 1
Somalian: 1
Indian/ German 1
Indian British: 2
Guinea: 1
Egyptian: 5
Bangladeshi: 1
Czech Republic: 1
Dutch: 1
Ghanaian/ British: 1


More than a third where pakistani!! Just shows that this cult really is a punjabi based business.

So… in the last 15 years they “converted” only 1312 people in the UK. An average of 87 a year. More than 50% of those they are no longer in contact with!!! This is the reality of the “True Islam”. For all their fancy propaganda to the white man it has got them no where.

What a sham “religion”.

http://www.thecult.info/forum/viewtopic.php?f=4&t=939

Lo!! So much for “The Ahmadiyya Muslim Community is a dynamic, fast growing international revival movement within Islam”,quoted from their website @ Alislam.org, and Allah’s promise to Mirza Ghulam Ahmad of ‘I Will Cause Thy Message to Reach the 4 Corners of The World’ (Allah knows there are no corners and would not have said such a thing),

Yes OK I hear you!! I hear you already!!! ‘THIS ISN’T TRUE IT IS LIES OMG LIARS, HE MADE IT UP’… he didn’t, I think if we all ask him nicely and he is reading, he might be able to email us over the original (he did me ages ago and a few others on the forum who asked for it). OK. So next I am hearing ‘OMG GORSSSH THIS IS ONLY FOR THE UK, WE HAVE MASSIVE GROWTH IN THE AFRICA AND THE INDIA AND THE BANGLADESH AND THE TIMBUKTOO AND THE MOON…’ yeah…you get the picture right? This is the HUB of Ahmadiyya: HUBADIYYA. This is where it’s all that, THE UK is where at it is at! Your Khalifa, may Allah strengthen his hands and feet, lives here. This is the driving force of the Ahmadiyya! This is where the money is at! this is where the concentrated efforts are it! This is where the multi million pound Mosque is at! This is where the HQ is at! This is where all the tabligh efforts are at! This is the driving force for the entire Ahmadiyya community worldwide and look what IT has to show for itself… 1312 converts in a 15 year period!!!! **SHOCKING**

1315 in 15 years and not all were proper conversions anyways and majority of them were never seen again!!! Either that’s pretty pathetic or you guys’ idea of HUGE GROWTH is 1 addition to your Tajneed database every decade? Now compare this to almost 100,000 MUSLIM CONVERTS here in the UK, averaging at almost 5000 a year (source: http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/home-news/the-islamification-of-britain-record-numbers-embrace-muslim-faith-2175178.html ). So who is growing? Don’t try fool yourselves into thinking all the Ahmadis are in Africa, they aren’t! And even if they were, majority are uneducated and illiterate and would probably follow anything with a bit of persuasion! Why are they not converting en masse in the UK? I thought Ahmadis were the most engaged Muslims in the world, and you can’t even manage to scoop the educated non-Muslims of the UK but mainstream Muslims did? What is up with that blad? Tell you what is up, it’s a fraud and Allah SWT will keep those in genuine search for the truth away from falsehood!

And oh, did you know, according to OFFICIAL Jamaat statements, Ahmadiyya is NOT growing but is actually in decline and reducing rapidly in numbers? Did you know that? Bro Xia over at the forums shows us here @Ahmadiyya Jamaat Numbers Fraud:

http://www.thecult.info/forum/viewtopic.php?f=4&t=1318&hilit=muslim+converts

Ahmadis, get off that sinking rubber dingy of yours and get on board the beautiful and safe Cruise Liner that is Islam: The proof is in the numbers! Stick with the majority and you will not go wrong. Start playing with the minority and the chances are, like most minority groups who are convinced too of world domination one day, and you WILL fail. Wave your white flag, get off that rubber dingy and come to Islam…this is no joke ting! WAKE UP FOR THE LOVE OF ALLAH WAKE UP!

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24 comments:

  1. Findings31 August 2011 at 13:17Reply
  2. dont try and hack my blog!! grrrrr! password has now been changed! silly person trying to edit my posts! NOT funny!
  3. XIA31 August 2011 at 14:44Reply
  4. Keep it safe u know that how Cult behaves :)All remember in that 2005 claim was of 200 Million + Ahmadis but in 2009 Claim was of 80 Million (even that is fake)

    May Allah guide them

  5. Anonymous31 August 2011 at 20:25Reply
  6. The prophecy DOES NOT CONTAIN THE NUMBER FOUR! It just says corners!lol, your comments seem to give me the impression that you’ve never had a discussion with anti-islamic atheists who’d love to try to prove that the Earth is flat from the Quran!

    4 corners comes from the bible, or am i mistaken?

    Four corners of the earth

    Meaning

    All parts of the Earth.

    Origin

    From the Miles Coverdale’s Version of the Bible, Revelation 7-1:

    And after that sawe I foure angels stode on ye foure corners of the earth, holdinge ye foure wyndes of ye earth, yt ye wyndes shulde not blowe on ye earth, nether on ye see, nether on eny tree.

    A similar expression is found in Isaiah 11-12:

    And he shal set vp a toke amonge the Gentiles, and gather together ye dispersed of Israel, yee and the outcastes of Iuda from the foure corners of ye worlde.

    The reference to four corners does not imply that the writers of these texts believed that the Earth was flat (although they may well have done). the first citation above suggests more that the four corners were the four compass points.

  7. Anonymous31 August 2011 at 20:45Reply
  8. “This is where all the tabligh efforts are at”, this just explains your ignorance! Do you really think that the UK is our largest target audience just because the Khalifa is there?You need to use your resources to get stats from other countries as well, UK’s tabligh efforts have a lot of room for improvement. No comparison to other countries. I’ve assessed efforts in at least four other countries. You are just assuming! UK is nowhere near rank one in the world in tabligh efforts.

    BTW. Congratulations! If we’re decreasing. So, there’ll be a day when no one’s going to read your blog! That most certainly does not seem to be your ultimate objective. Why do I say that? Because u’ve done it the wrong way, the unislamic way. You are probably the only person on the thecult.info team who’s not got the basics of Islam right, let alone ahmadiyyat. Not saying this to embarrass you but to encourage you to spend more time studying Quran and hadith rather than gossip. Because a lot of what you write is factually incorrect.

    May Allah guide all of us to the right Path. Ameen

  9. The Rash31 August 2011 at 21:08Reply
  10. Nice work Findings. Over here in the USA they are slowly dying. They train the Atfal to be Mukhliss Ahmadis..but, by the time they are Khuddam the Con is up.Many of my nieces and nephews are close to leaving. Hopefully websites like these will help people understand the fraud that is the ‘A’.

    Good Hunting!

  11. Anonymous31 August 2011 at 22:40Reply
  12. So, where are the 200000000 Ahmadis? Anyone? Or can you not stomach that Mirza Tahir, the fourth khalifa, leader of the true Islam, blatanly lied in front of the whole world? Or that you believed his BS?
  13. Anonymous1 September 2011 at 06:01Reply
  14. You’re not going to get any comments from Ahmadis except for the ones that insult your character. I don’t know you and maybe you don’t know a lot about Islam and maybe you are an awful person, but I would like to see an Ahmadi explain the figures.No, the UK might not be the center of tabligh activity, but then what is the center? What are the numbers from that place? Why should Findings have to find these numbers? Why doesn’t the Jamaat actually release the numbers of how many Ahmadis are in each country?
  15. XIA1 September 2011 at 09:37Reply
  16. There Centers are in parts of Africa where they can trade Food for Souls like Christian Missionaries while usinge the name of Islam to spread their own stuff :)But even there claims are fake

    like 200 million to 80 Million

    COMMON AHMADIS GET UR SELF FREE FROM SLAVERY OF THIS ROYAL FAMILY and Start follow QURAN AND SUNNAH.

  17. Anonymous1 September 2011 at 13:40Reply
  18. Surah al Baqarah 2:15 – 16And when they meet those who believe, they say: ‘We believe;’ but when they are alone with their ringleaders they say: ‘We are certainly with you; we are only mocking.’Allah will punish their mockery and will let them continue in their transgression, wandering blindly.
  19. Anonymous1 September 2011 at 18:37Reply
  20. So the thousands of Ahmadis that read this blog and send you emails (as you claim) don’t exist do they?
  21. Anonymous1 September 2011 at 19:45Reply
  22. LOL, What a loada rubbish cult girl. You think your clever hiding behind most likely a scraf pretending your muslim and reverted to ‘Islam’ but your nothing short of a coward. Have you ever been to Jalsaa lately have you seen how much the attendance has increased and you claim that it is on a decline, what a liberty. You probs already have boyfriend and all this blog is to get the message right in your head and excuse for you to run away,typical of girls like you. BTW ppl that are reading your blogs are Ahmadi’s and we are laughing at you not with you and disgusted at the way your parents have bough you up,poor people when they find out the real truth about you, you sure gna kill em and that too Alive then we’l see who goes to heaven. Mark my words we’l see where you are in 5 years time and if you dont change your attitude and ways you wont be too happy. Lanat on you what sad way of killing time,why dont you spend it doing Quran Hafz instead that way you are not spreading hatred in the world. One day someone will find you through hacking (won’t be long as I have ppl who can do it) and you will get slapped by your parents and I will want to personally meet them and you can get out of this so called ‘cult’ quicker than you thought.
  23. Hameed1 September 2011 at 21:10Reply
  24. Ahmadis always assume the growth that their leaders are talking about is happening somewhere else
    because in very jumah and jalsa all they see around them is the same old bored looking punjabis
  25. Anonymous1 September 2011 at 21:33Reply
  26. right… so these figures??? At the moment they are just hearsay to me. I would only believe this if you scanned in the original document.Also, are you not doing exactly the same thing that you suggest the Jamaat is doing, producing figures without proof? Are you not then as bad as you claim the Jamaat is. This argument of yours is void unless you can produce evidence rather than just writing some figures in a post.

    In your ignorance you have ruined your argument by doing exactly the same thing you claim that the Jamaat is doing wrong.

    I understand you get a lot of emails, but none of your responses have been to people that have questioned your articles. Unless you start doing so no one is going to give you much attention. I suggest responding to this comment as a starting point.

  27. Anonymous2 September 2011 at 19:52Reply
  28. i think this is xia or farhan pretending to be a girl to lead the woman astray from AHmadiyyat .If not, this is a very desperate girl trying to get attention and posting her personal life all over the web…..shoudldnt you be practicing purdah if your an obsreving muslimah?
  29. Yusuf2 September 2011 at 22:51Reply
  30. “Yes OK I hear you!! I hear you already!!! ‘THIS ISN’T TRUE IT IS LIES OMG LIARS, HE MADE IT UP’… “You claim that Ahmadis will say that you made up the figure? Now why on earth would you do that? Surly a good “Muslim” girl like you would never tell a lie right?
    Agh Hge wrong. You have allready lied. You said;
    “This is old news, but now I have brand new readers, this will be NEW to thousands of you (yep thousands, my Blog had 8,000 hits by this morning subhanAllah).”

    But on your ptofile page it says 665 hits.http://www.blogger.com/profile/12838153918574723113

    What a liar. Or should I say it in a way that you would understand (gang speak) YO CKICK I IZ COT U OUT INNIT. YOU AINT NOTHEN BUT A FAKER INNIT YO.

    Pathethic

  31. Findings2 September 2011 at 23:32Reply
  32. Yo Yusuf blud.. 665 hits is for my profile page.. LOL! I’ve added a stats counter on the right side of the blog. As you can see there have been over 12,000 page views in the last week 😉
  33. Anonymous3 September 2011 at 10:08Reply
  34. Why are you so against Honurable Rafiq Hayat. He is one of a kind and is a UK Am’ir for life. People like him are born in generations. He is a big blessing for UK. Who else has qualities like him in the UK.
  35. Anonymous3 September 2011 at 14:16Reply
  36. You mean the same Rafiq Hayat who committed shirk?http://thecult.info/blog/2010/12/25/ahmadiyya-and-the-mumbo-jumbo-business/
  37. Anonymous3 September 2011 at 21:52Reply
  38. Hey Findings, I would like to hear your story do you have an email? I am a22 years old Ahmadi who is researching deeper into Ahmadiyyat.. Email me: inquiringahmadi@yahoo.com
  39. XIA4 September 2011 at 20:59Reply
  40. Every 1 knows about Mirza Tahir and Jammat Lies about numbers200 million in 2005
    and 80 million in 2009 😀

    No Ahmadi cant deny that 🙂

    THINK AHMADIS AND LEAVE THE CULT

    http://thecult.info/blog

  41. Anonymous7 September 2011 at 07:51Reply
  42. Can you plz condemn the recent murder of the Ahmadi brother Naseem Ahmad Butt.
    We Ahmadis are continuously condmening terrorsim, which YOU—>Sunnis are conducting, we hold symposiums, hand out flyers, have open houses for the Msoque, hold interfaith dialougues…etc….to cover your ass.
    BUT not once have i heard them (Sunnis) condenm the persecution against Ahmadis.
    I mean God forbid it come from a Mullah!PLease STOP terrorizing us.
  43. A khokar18 September 2011 at 13:35Reply
  44. Qadianis attempt to block build of New Masjid in London!Yeh; if this Mosque is being built with the aim of creating a masjid e Zarar and create disorder and mischief in the community residing in this particualr area. It must be stopped.

    Allah Loves not the disorder and mischief.

  45. A Khokar18 September 2011 at 17:02Reply
  46. [Expontential Growth in Ahmadis? An Ex-Ahmadi shows otherwise!]
    One may not be awarae of the facts that on what account ‘Findings’ or the ‘Cultgirl’ were shunted out of the Jammat and under what pretext. But believably in the light of the rancor and vengeance shown here— looks like a case of a ‘Divorcee’ —–who is crying for the breach / loss of relations contract and is desperately in need to get gather few sympathisers around.Sadly the loss may be that how suddenly they find themselves debarred; possibly for their own misconduct. Otherwise they say;
    Jissay saaf rakhna ho; ousay Maila naheen kartay

    So ‘Lagey Rahou Munna Bhai’; because any advice at this stage may not work that all the divorcees; they like to know not any logic or reasoning and neither will accept their fault for which he/she got the divorce.

    Once again; Lagey Rahou Munna Bhai; I think this must help Ahmadiyya that few more black sheep will also move off from the scene.

    Khas Kam jahaan Pak

  47. Findings18 September 2011 at 17:23Reply
  48. ^ thanks for addressing the point A.khokar.

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Average Ahmadi’s are not allowed to shake hands with the opposite sex



Intro

You will hear Ahmadi’s always tell each other to never shake hands with the opposite sex.  Growing up as an Ahmadi, my father told my sister’s that if they shook hands with the school principal while graduating, he would basically kill them.  This as my father, who was a fanatical Ahmadi.

In this photo
Dr. Salam is shaking hands with Ms. Margit Dirac, she was the widow of the famous Paul Dirac, with whom Salam was fast friends with for many years.  See the original photo here: https://www.ictp.it/about-ictp/media-centre/galleries/historical-pictures.aspx

Read about Salam in-depth here
https://ahmadiyyafactcheckblog.com/2016/12/26/dr-abdus-salam-liked-white-women-alcohol-and-a-busy-british-lifestyle/

At the recent USA Jalsa, Mansoor Qureshi told Ahmadi’s to never shake hands with the opposite sex, thus endorsing the Ahmadiyya policy
At the 9:55 mark

Mansoor Qureshi calls shaking hands with women as a Satanic temptation
We have sent this essay to him and asked him to comment on Dr. Salam, which is fair, however, he won’t.

Mansoor Qureshi also mentions lowering the gaze
In the same speech, he talks about lowering a person’s gaze, per the quran.  He mentions how Muslim men shouldn’t look directly into the eyes of women.  However, in the pic posted in the above, Dr. Salam always made eye contact.

MGA’s eyes?
MGA wasn’t lowering his gaze.  His eyes were always like that, which indicates his drug use, read about it here: https://ahmadiyyafactcheckblog.com/2016/11/14/mga-looked-like-an-opium-addict/

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Jalsa-Germany-2018 is fast approaching



Intro

Dear readers, we have covered the ins and outs of Jalsa here:  https://ahmadiyyafactcheckblog.com/2017/07/16/the-ahmadiyya-jalsausa-is-a-marketing-event-nothing-else/.

Young-western-born-Ahmadi’s hate these Jalsa’s
In Europe, Canada and the USA, young Ahmadi’s normally skip out on these boring speeches and sessions, they normally do drugs and hang out late nights, and frequent clubs and etc.  Look at the pic that I have posted ^^^^^.

The nightclub
The nightclub was directly in the area where the Jalsa Salana Germany took place for years. It was sealed off with fences and patrolled by amoomies from the Jalsa gah side.

An ahmadiyya spliter group in Germany has already held their Jalsa

Speech of Syed Aqeel Zakria 8th Jalsa Germany 2018 – Urdu—from an Ahmadiyya splinter group

https://youtu.be/8xR-K0oAOk4

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Ahmadiyya policy on homosexuality



Intro

Homosexuality has been rampant in Ahmadiyya since the 1930’s.  The Khalifa was laying with men and women in that era.  In fact, he ordered the murder of Fakhur-ud-din Multani, since he accused the Khalifa of raping him.  However, outwardly, the Ahmadiyya policy is against homosexuality.  Ironically, homosexuality is also rampant among the men of Rabwah.  Ahmadi’s are so ridiculous, they even believe that eating pork makes someone Gay, which is stupid since homosexuality is rampant in afghanistan and pakistan, wherein virtually no pork is ever eaten.

Related Essays
https://ahmadiyyafactcheckblog.com/2017/04/21/nooruddin-promoted-homosexuality-and-so-did-mga-and-mahmud-ahmad/

This is a copy and paste job
I got all of this info from here: https://www.reddit.com/r/islam_ahmadiyya/comments/96iwa1/official_jamaat_pov_on_homosexuality/

  • the 4th Khalifa: “The gays, lesbians, drug addicts, skin-heads, punks and criminals of all sorts, all continue to grow in numbers and strength. Their audacity to defend their behaviour by simply asking their admonisher, ‘Why not?’, has become the ominous challenge to contemporary society.” (The gays, lesbians, drug addicts, skin-heads, punks and criminals of all sorts, all continue to grow in numbers and strength. Their audacity to defend their behaviour by simply asking their admonisher, ‘Why not?’, has become the ominous challenge to contemporary society” source

         –the 5th khalifa: “During one of the interviews, Huzoor was also asked his views about       homosexuality. Huzoor explained that it was not only the Quran that taught that homosexuality was wrong but also the Bible did” source

Additional Sources

(https://www.alislam.org/library/book/pathway-to-paradise/islamic-viewpoint-on-contemporary-issues/):

As a new convert to Islam, you may have questions about gay rights and the fight for equality, and you may wonder whether discrimination against gays because of their sexual preference is right or wrong. It is important to point out that gay activists are seeking rights on the same grounds as African-Americans, women and other minorities; namely that their sexual preference is as innate as a person’s skin color or gender. As this is not so, African-Americans, women and others should be wary of joining with gay activists in their political fight because their rights are not due on the same grounds

Here, ure Khalifa is stating that homosexuality is equal to a disease and a crime that would destroy the world: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sxkMTxZE7XU

4th Ahmadiyya Khalifa explaining homosexuality as a form of societal decayhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HKSM4ngaDwY

4th Ahmadiyya Khalife about lesbian ahmadi women (quote from a German queer union, this is my english translation: https://berlin.lsvd.de/neuigkeiten/ausgehverbot-fur-lesbische-frauen/):

“If a lesbian women stays at home until a certain time and if she will not be allowed, without supervision, to move freely in the society, then other women will not get infected. For this reason, the ban on going out is very sufficient, and the women should not go out on their own without accompaniment. That’s good for them, for their families and for society in general. There is no further punishment for her. The goal of the measure is the improvement that benefits the family itself.”

I will send homosexuals to a healer” (Ahmadiyya Imam Malik Usman Naveed, German queer newspaper): https://www.queer.de/detail.php?article_id=28035

Eating pork makes u gay” (German queer newspaper on a early 2000 jamaat article from the “youth journal of the Jamaat”): https://www.queer.de/detail.php?article_id=7026 and here https://www.queer.de/detail.php?article_id=6791

In my last conversation with an official from the Jamaat this official told me that seeing homosexuals holding hands on the streets would dishonor his heterosexuality. I think there is a lot more cis-heterosexist stuff to be discovered in Jamaat. So Im very happy that we have this thread here 🙂

In case u want to translate, I recommend Google translator: https://translate.google.com/

A video by Mirza Masroor Ahmad

 

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Dr. Abdus Salam died of a rare brain disease


Intro

Dear readers, we are always saddened by the loss of life.  However, in this “Ahmadiyya-Game” we are forced to bring up the death of Ahmadi’s and those circumstances.  The reason for this is because MGA claimed to have predicted the death of all of his opponents.  We are thus forced to highlight the nasty deaths of MGA himself (cholera), Mirza Basheer-uddin Mahmud Ahmad, Maulvi Abdul Karim, Noorudin, Mirza Tahir Ahmad, Mirza Nasir Ahmad and many others.  In today’s edition, we have uncovered data on the untimely and agonizing death of Dr. Salam.  Abdus Salam was mute from 1993-1996, he was unable to speak, he suffered from para supranuclear palsy.  If you look at the last few videos by Dr. Salam you will notice how his eyes couldn’t focus, he was in big trouble.  It’s very possible that Dr. Salam always suffered from some type of hyper brain function disease, which seems to have accelerated his ability to concentrate and eventually caused his death.  

Supranuclear palsy, also called Steele-Richardson-Olszewski syndrome, is an uncommon brain disorder that causes serious problems with walking, balance and eye movements. The disorder results from deterioration of cells in areas of your brain that control body movement and thinking.  Progressive supranuclear palsy worsens over time and can lead to life-threatening complications, such as pneumonia and swallowing problems. There’s no cure for progressive supranuclear palsy, so treatment focuses on managing the signs and symptoms.

Symptoms

The characteristic signs and symptoms of progressive supranuclear palsy include:

  • A loss of balance while walking. A tendency to fall backward can occur very early in the disease.
  • An inability to aim your eyes properly. You may have particular difficulty looking downward, or experience blurring and doubled vision. This difficulty with focusing the eyes can make some people spill food or appear disinterested in conversation because of poor eye contact.

Additional signs and symptoms of progressive supranuclear palsy vary and may mimic those of Parkinson’s disease and dementia. These signs and symptoms worsen as the disease advances, and may include:

  • Stiffness and awkward movements
  • Falling
  • Problems with speech and swallowing
  • Sensitivity to light
  • Sleep disturbances
  • Loss of interest in pleasurable activities
  • Impulsive behavior, possibly including laughing or crying for no reason
  • Difficulties with memory, reasoning, problem-solving and decision-making
  • Depression and anxiety
  • A surprised or frightened facial expression, resulting from rigid facial muscles

Dr. Salam’s children tell us

Nasir Iqbal tells us:

“””Nasir told this author that one night Salam fell down in his Trieste residence where he resided all alone. He was hurt and bled and lay on the floor all night as he could not get up. He also was unable to call anyone or raise any kind of alarm. Pierre Agbedjro, who used to drive his official car, went inside his residence around 7.00 AM the next morning and saw him lying where he had fallen.”” (see http://www.mujahidkamran.com/articles.php?id=44).

Apparently his Pakistani wife never wanted to live in Trieste as she felt lonely there. 
Salam suffered from PSP – para supranuclear palsy.  Salam seems to have moved back to London while he was dying and eventually died in the house of Dr. Napier, and he lived his final days there.  After Salam died, his body was transported to Rabwah for burial.  Dr. Napier and her son were also in attendance.  Their son was 22 years old.  We are not sure where his daughter was.  Aziza, the eldest daughter of Abdus Salam and probably all of her sisters and brothers were there.

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Maulvi Sarwar Shah (Qadiani-Ahmadi) vs. the Lahori-Ahmadi’s

Intro
Dear readers, we recently posted a book by Sarwar Shah, who was a cleric for the Qadiani-faction of Ahmadi’sSarwar Shah was also an opium addict and heavy smoker.  We went through his book and wrote a summary of what we found.  See this essay for corroborating data on this topic: https://ahmadiyyafactcheckblog.com/2018/08/06/mirza-ghulam-ahmad-and-misappropriation-of-funds/ and this one for data on the role of Sarwar Shah: https://ahmadiyyafactcheckblog.com/2016/09/30/mgas-ghost-writers-argue-on-the-prophethood-of-mga-in-1900/

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Summary written by our Pakistani team

WITNESS TO CORRUPTION OF MIRZA QADIANI AND FAMILY BY KHWAJA KAMALUDDIN A (sc) SAHABI OF MGAQ. SOME SECRET ISSUES EXPOSED BY MOVI SYED SARWAR.
Khwaja Kamaluddin Advocate (1870-1932) joined Ahmadiyya in 1893 and became a close associate of Mrza Gulam Qadiani.
Being an educated person he realized that the whole system revolves around money making and Mirza family’s rule. So at the outset, he along with Molana Muhammad Ali Lahori raised voices against the cult like policies of the Jamaat.

Molvi Syed Sarwar Shah was also a close associate of Mirza Gulam Qadiani but he was a die hard supporter of Mirza Mahmoud and Mirza family. He wrote two letters to Molana Muhammad Ali Lahori giving accounts of the activities of Muhammad Ali and Khwaja Kamaluddin against Mirza Qadiani, his family and Khilafat of Mahmoud. For us this is an evidence of corruption in Qadiani Jamaat from beginning by its own leaders.
Here we have glimpses of book Kashful Ikhtilaf by Molvi Syed Sarwar Shah. His letters to Muhammad Ali Lahori, have been summarised as under:-
“Molana you are a good man but have two weaknesses, one you are short tempered person and the other one you rely upon your friend (Khwaja Kamaluddin) more than anything. This was the reason that during the life time of Hazrat sb (MGQ), you had shown your reaction on petty affairs so much that you got ready to leave Qadian and to this day you are not willing to forget your grievances against Khalifatul Masih (Mirza Mahmoud)andAhle Bait, meaning Mirza Family.

Do u remember hazrat sahib (MGQ) had related his dream to you that Kh. Kamaluddin has got mad and wanted to attack on him when he asked someone to get him out, he left the place himself then Hazrat sahib asked you to write to kamaluddin to seek repentance of Allah excessively. Instead of repenting, Kh. Kamaluddin, start raising question on hazrat sahib(MGQ)for financial irregularities and you supported to him as well.

May I also remind you of our travel to Gujrat when we were riding on a Tonga of Nawab Khan Sahib Tehsildar, I, was sitting beside you on rear seat and khwaja Sahib were sitting on front Seat with Driver.

Khwaja Sahib sought permission to pose a question and took hours to complete his question which was :-
in past we used to motivate our wives that they should try to follow the life style of Ambiya and Sahabas, they eat dry bread in lesser quantity, they wear thick and worn out patched cloths and spend much of their income for needs of nation. In this way we could succeed in saving some money to send to Qadiani for Jamaat. (Chanda).

But when our women had visited Qadian and saw the women of Mirza family and other residents themselves, they said to us “you were telling lie to us. We have seen ourselves the life style of Ambia and Sahabas. Their women are living such luxurious life that we can not even think of. Whereas we pay to them our hard earned money, while they are spending money for luxuries, that is received by them in the name of service of Islam. So you are liar and has kept us in dark by telling lie and now we are not going to spare money for sending it to Qadian.

Then Khwaja sahib said you don,t have true answer to this question whatever you reply to people, would not be valid in front of me. Then you (Muhammad Ali Lahori) replied to Khwaja sahib that Ambiya,s deed,except the deeds of Hazrat Muhammad s.a.w., are of two types one that happens as a prophet the other one that happens due to his being a BASHAR so the deeds as Bashar are not pure from the faults like all mankind. This reply depressed me and put under severe kind of pain and I kept on reciting “Lahoula wala quwwata illa billahil azeem.” In my heart.

Molana I have heard Hazrat Masihe Moud saying, it is the will of Allah that the Langar (free meal to poor)should be managed by him and if he withdraws from the management, this LANGAR would not be run for a single day. But this Kamaluddin, time and again insists that LANGAR management may be handed over to him. I told you of this and you brought Kwaja sahib to me to tell him of the instructions of Hazrat sahib regarding LANGAR.

Still Kwaja Sahib reiterated his stance that the langar management is harming the precious religious engagements of Hazrat sahib and the staff is not running it properly and spending excessive money so that is why it may be handed over to him. Then Khwaja sahib asked you to talk to hazrat sahib again but you said you would accompany him but would not talk.

Here I recall written complaint of financial irregularity against Hazrat sahib (MGQ)by one namely Babu Sahib and this was also supported by khwaja sahib who then complained about Langar that how Mir Sahib wastes the Meal by distributing it among gardeners and feeding to the garden dogs.

Many times Hazrat sahib has mentioned the weakness of IMAN of Khwaja Sahib and described the example of Saadullah Ludhianvi, in this regard. Then Hazrat Sahib ordered for publication of Ishtihar of Jalsa Azam which was also opposed by Khwaja Kamaluddin and he published subsequently when hazrat Sahib pressed hard for it.

Molana your friend Khawaja Kamaluddin conspired to break this Jamaat by making few notables to his side and the plan was to earn money by Tabligh in Europe. So he got hold of you first and unfortunately you became his supporter. I remember those meetings where Khawaja Kamaluddin was described as the POLOS OF JAMAATE AHMADIYYA.

Khwaja Kamaluddin used to tell somebody in front of you that we may place him (Muhammad Ali) ahead in the Jamaat. He also used to advise you how to stop Mirza Mahmoud ‘s selection as Khalifa. Kamaluddin studied your personality weaknesses of being short tempered and flattery lover. In fact you became a tool in the hand of Khwaja Kamaluddin.

Molvi Sahib think of the circumstances when Akhbar e watan was proposed which was the beginning of the scheme of Khwaja Kamaluddin. When at an evening Hazrat Sahib (MGQ) suddenly entered your room and said I want to ask you one thing which is, what is the reason that many Islamic magazines were published but remained ineffective but your magazine has great influence. If you publish a magazine without mentioning me, (MGQ), you would be presenting dead Islam which many non Ahmadis present. Then you immediately blamed Khwaja sahib by saying that Huzur same are my views here but It is Khwaja sahib who is insisting to publish a magazine without mentioning Huzur (MGQ). Then Huzur got a letter written to Khwaja sb by you. But now (after MGQ), you are publishing Magazines without any reference to hazrat Sahib (MGQ).

You made it an issue that Mirza Mahmoud declares non Ahmadis as Kafir, but it was not the real issue otherwise you would not have proposed him a Khalifa for Qadian while nominating the Khulafa e Masih. Or you would have made his nomination conditional that he repent from excommunication of Muslims, but no such condition was attached nor Mian sahib has repented for excommunication. After baiyat of Mian
Mahmoud You peoples also said only 20% of the Jamaat peoples pledged their Baiyat to him.

Khwaja Kamaluddin supported Hakim Nuruddin to become Khalifa after hazrat Masih e Moud but they insisted that Khalifa should not rule on Sadar Anjuman and Anjuman should be beyond the Khalifa,s rule. Khawaja Kamaluddin tried to get Khalifa under his influence but does not succeed then he starts saying that it was our mistake to make him (Nuruddin) a Kahalifa.

When Khalifa was to decide the issue of Anjuman, you said if Khalifa decides against what we think is right we would not accept any such decision because we know that Anjuman has the authority to appoint Khalifa and it does not come under the jurisdiction of Khalifa, rather Khalifa is supposed to obey Anjuman as we are a body came into existence on the WASSIYYAT OF hazrat Masih Moud (MGQ).

After this decision you and your supporters abused all those found to have opposite opinion. So much so Hazrat Nana Jan (Mir. Nasir Nawab) was not spared, abuses were hurled upon him he was about to be beaten, had he not taken refuge in the house of Hazrat Masih e Moud.

Next day Khalifatul Masih (Molv Nuruddin) led the Fajr prayer wherein a revealing condition prevailed upon him while reciting Surah Alburuj verses meant “ those who spread fitna among believers if they do not repent then hell fire would be their destination where they would be burnt” This was God ,s decision for you but to the surprise and shock of others you did not accept this.

But Molvi Nuruddin Sahib delivered a lecture afterward and asked you people to repent and take a fresh Bayat. You and your friend pledged their Baiyat. But then you reprimanded Khawaja sahib and said we have been humiliated at the hand of Our own made Khalifa and now I am not going to stay here anymore. “

 

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