Abdul Sami Zafar tells the inside story on the May 29th, 1974 Rabwah train attacks

I have always written that Ahmadiyya leadership planned the 1974 Rabwah train attacks.  In this interview, Abdul Sami Zafar explains how Ahmadiyya leadership planned and executed the attack.  Abdul Sami is still an Ahmadi, however, he has called the Mirza family as a group of liars and thieves.  Abdul Sami still believes in MGA and that MGA was a prophet and a Messiah. That solidifies his testimony.  Further, much like all Ahmadis who were privy to this attack, he kept it a secret for 40+ years….the full interview can be found here:

Abdul sami has joined a splinter sect of Ahmadis and their youtube channel is as follows:

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He says:

  1.  Indeed, the teenagers stopped in on May 22nd, 1974 and cussed at a few Ahmadis who were there that day.
  2. Majlis Aamila then got the report and began discussing the matter.
  3. Majlis Aamila then planned everything, they sent Ahmadis to Peshawar, Sarghoda and planned the entire attack.
  4. They then began to collect local Khuddam from Rabwah and had them hide in ambush.
  5. The train-station manager was also Ahmadi, he also knew the whole story, he purposely made the train wait 30 mins at least.
  6. The attack was a success…
  7. However, the next day, Ahmadis began to be murdered and burned alive. The Mirza family had these attacks carried out and then lied about everything, They purposely got themselves declared non-muslim so as to get asylum abroad.

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An Ahmadi couple has left Ahmadiyya and joined Islam

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Wajih Ahmad and wife Binte Tahir resident of Chak 37 District Sargodha left Ahmadiyya  and embraced Islam at the hand of Molana Muhammad Akram Toofani. Both husband and wife were born Ahmadi’s.


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Mufti Muhammad Sadiq helped change the Date of Birth of Mirza Ghulam Ahmad from 1839/40 to 1835

We all know how MGA wrote 1839 or 1840 as his DOB.  Read that entire discussion here: and here:

Braheen-e-Ahmadiyya Vol. 5 was written and published in the winter of 1908
This is an important fact.  In this book, MGA’s editors began changing MGA’s comments on his age.  Ahmadis use a comment from this book to prove that MGA was much older in 1905.

—“God knows the real age but according to my knowledge, my age is near 70 years at present in the year 1323 AH. God knows best” [Zamima Baraheen-e-Ahmadiyya Vol 5 page 193].

—-“The real words about the promise in the revelation assign the age between 74 and 86″  [Zamima Baraheen-e-Ahmadiyya Vol 5 page 97 margin]

Mufti Muhammad Sadiq and his book Zikr-e-Habib
“This humble one was born in the month of Phalugna on a Friday on the 14th night of the moon” [Zikr-e-habib by Mufti Muhammad Sadiq Sahib pages 238 & 239]

Other references to Zikr-e-Habib

See here for the Ahmadiyya argument—-

MGA’s team lied about his age during the Dowie prophecy, they purposely made MGA look older
On 23rd of August, 1903 a leaflet was published from me against Dowie which states that I am around 70 years in age and Dowie, as he mentions, is a young man of 50.” [Tatma Haqiqatul Wahi page 71 and Majmooa-ishtaharat vol 3 page 564]

Ahmadi’s also quote Sanaullah 
Ahmadi’s have cherry picked these quotes, we need to see the full quote to properly analyze.

Maulvi Sanaullah Amritsari who was a staunch opponent of MGA writes:

“Mirza Sahib has said that his demise would be near 80 years of age and perhaps he has fulfilled all those conditions” [Ahl-e-hadith 3rd May 1907 page 3 column2]

 Maulvi Sanaullah probably wanted to prove that Ahmad (as) had reached 75 years of age and should die now according to his own prophecy. He writes in another place:

“A person who is older than 70 years of age (as is Mirza sahib himself)…” [Tafseer-e-sanai Matbooa 1899 Hashia 4 under ayat Inni mutawaffeeqa ]

Ahmadi’s also quote Batalvi

Risala Isha’at-us-sunnah vol 15, page 191 in 1893 thus:

“He’s already 63 years old..”.


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MGA forced Noorudin to pretend to be Hanafi, even though he was a Wahabbi aka Ahl-e-Hadith

Nooruddin and MGA were both Ahl-e-Hadith (aka Wahabbi) type of Muslims before 1889.  In fact, MGA’s nikkah was read out by the top Ahl-e-Hadith mullah in North India in 1884.  Wahabbi’s or Ahl-e-Hadith don’t follow any of the 4 schools of Sunni Islam.

You can read about Noorudin’s affiliation to the Ahl-e-Hadith here:

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In his book  “Siratul Mahdi”  Mirza Bashir Ahmad, son of MGA Qadiani, wrote:

“””[In the name of Allah, The Merciful. Hafiz Roshan Ali told me saying: At a time, the promised messiah (MGAQ) asked, for a religious necessity, from Maulvi Noor Uddin to announce that he is belonging to Hanafi Madhab despite he (MGAQ) was knowing that he (Noor Uddin) was belonging to Ahle Hadith. In response to him, Maulvi Noor Uddin wrote, on a paper, a verse of Persian poetry its literal meaning is: If your guide commanded you to dye your place of prayer with wine, you should do; as the guide doesn’t ignore the etiquette of love ways and its traditions. He wrote under it “Hanafi Noor Uddin”]   Siratul Mahdi, narration no. 359.”””

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IKRIMA NAJAMI, A Kababir Ahmadi from birth, a major Arab-desk employee, ANNOUNCES his apostacy from AHMADIYYA

Another Ahmadi has left Ahmadiyya.  This time its an Arab-Ahmadi. He seems to be from Kababir.  Read about the Odeh family and that whole situation herein:  Be sure to read about Hani Tahir here:

His open letter on his FB page
See here:

I declare to all of my friends, and to the world, that it is clear to me that the founder of ahmadiyya was a deliberate liar, a bad creation, and his jamaat after him continues to spread lies. It is very shocking that one reaches this conclusion, but the alternative is eternal concern. This is a betrayal of generations.

My independent research led me to the right path. It was very painful and shocking for me to know that whatever I was following with my sincere belief was lie and beyond Islamic faith and beliefs After reaching certainty in this regard, I thought it was imperative for me to convey to people my testimony and experience in this group, so that God may save the innocent respected faithful of Ahmadis, who do not know the painful truth, or are not able to face it.

I was in charge of the ahmadiyya community in a number of Arab countries, and I was in charge of the Arab area offices and many other posts in the Jamaat. I was a born Ahmadi and my grandfather was the first ahmadi of the family. He joined Jamaat 90 years ago. And ever since We made a religious commitment and came to think of the Jamaat closely, I have endeavored to apply all the teachings in full and to abide by its rules in letter and spirit, and I have been a member of the administrative body in Jamaat. When I moved to London in 2007, I worked at the ahmadiyya public center, in close coordination with khalifa. My house and office were near to his home, and office. I offered prayers in the same Masjid where Khalifa used to offer his and sometime I led the prayer in his place.

I was beginning to see that the Jamaat did not respond to what brother Hani Taher was asking. The Caliph once asked me about my opinion, and I said to him, “I didn’t see any real answers, and he said,” carry on your Search. In next stages I have to undergo phases of denial, fear, distress and extreme anxiety, then the stage where I question myself-honestly, that what would I do when I come to know that we were actually showing a fake belief to people? And how are we gonna handle our life? What about thousands of people serving in the Jamaat who know me ? And what with the parents, the relatives and the peoples of all ages? How will you justify them all? And how will their reactions be? Can they get hurt psychologically?

The intense prayers and the blessings of Allah swt led me to a conclusion where I decided to stick to the truth, no matter what it takes, I only want to please God almighty, first and last. It made me shocked and hurt when in my research in Arabic I found that the beautiful Arabic expressions used by the founder of the Jamaat in his book were the biggest lies, all his arbic texts were stolen directly from famous arabic book AL MUQAMAT UL HARIRi AND JANNAT BY ALHAMZANI. Some 1000 expression were stolen from 40 pages of Hariri (a big Arabic author and scholar), and distributed to a number of Arabic books!! Under immense stress and shock I gave Khalifa a detailed message conveying him that:-

I witness God that I never imagined being in this painful situation. My heart is filled with aches from the trauma I am living in these days. This has been reflected negatively even in health. Those were beautiful days we spent with you. How much we love to work for Islam through this Jamaat and how happy we were that we sacrificed too much for Jamaat. All because of our love for the founder and successors of this Jamaat. And how we tried to run away from the facts.

The responses to what Hani Taher was asking, were far from objectivity, lacking substance and were full of personal insults without mercy. Our people showed up like a haughty group who wanted to keep people away from critical thinking. While Hani Taher was calling for affection, peace, prudence and objectivity in research. He did not change his approach to subtraction and did not whittle into the rhetoric that some had tried to drag him into.

No learned member from Jamaat could come forward to defend its founder, as Jamaat left the job to peoples who were incompetents and unable to come up with a logical responses to deny what Hani had raised objectively. Since his questions were so serious in nature, why haven’t the answers been officially issued on behalf of the Jamaat or even on behalf of Khalifa.?�
When Hani said, ” how was the number of Jmaat followers as 4000 in 1906, and then rose to 400,000 in 1944, even though the Caliph says it is now a hundred times what it was at the time of promised messiah .” they wanted to repeat that phrase only, as if they responded. When he published hundreds of grammatical errors in the founder’s books, they did not address any of these articles except in a way that no one accepted, and Jamaat did not ask a specialist to respond, even though brother Hani demanded it. And when Hani published dozens of articles showing that the founder of Jamaat had stolen text from Hariri, their responses were contradictory, and once they said: the founder had never read any book of Al Hariri, and once they said He was only influenced by Al Hariri, and once they said ” he deliberately took the text of Al Harir so that peoples know it, but in all cases they failed to respond to a very large resemblance of texts for example: in the first 30 pages of Al Hariri, the founder took at least 500 words distributed on his Arabic books, they responded that the Founder could not come in strong terms without taking the words of Al Hariri. This eliminates the idea of his holy learning from Allah swt for 40 thousand material. One way Jamaat says Allah has directly revealed to founder on the other hand Founder was heavily depended upon Hariri in his writings.

When Hani Taher spoke about forgery in referral to Quran, Hadith, by the founder, there was no reply, even though he had mentioned more than 20 texts that the founder claimed to have brought from these sources, without having A trace on any of it.
This is the case when he spoke about faking the founder in referral to his books and declarations which does not exist.�
When Hani Taher pointed out contradictions in the book of “AIJAZUL MASEEH” from all sides, he said that he had broken the challenge, and called for a neutral commission of government, no Ahmadi had commented on it, and it had not been reversed.

Our friendship was great when we were surprised by the morals of the founder and his very many abuses, which we cannot accept that our children will hear or be proud to publish for the world. We did not feel any relief from a continuing curse in one of his books, nor in his insistence on the inevitability of marrying a married woman and spreading advertising among people, that we have a crime and a shame and no one accepts it.

There are also some texts of the founder for which we can be judged by contempt of religions, such as: The criticism of founder of the jamaat on Christianity when he said its description and beliefs are unclean!!!�
As he said about Abdullah Athem. He said, ” Christianity occupies the first place in the world in perjury, those who have not even sped away from betrayal in divine books�He described the Christian religion by saying: “revolting”.

The Founder’s prophecies were clear that they had not been achieved or even reversed, and that the community’s justification for not achieving were not true. Most of them were fake. After founder, said to be written in advertisement in October 1907 that a liar will remain alive after sincere, but we do not find any trace of such Ishtihar in Majmua Ishtiharat.

�I wish I could stay a good relationship with you and the group. But I regret to inform you that I no longer look at the founder of the community a honest in his prayers. The members of my family are in their own hands. And it wouldn’t hurt if any of them chose to stay in the Jamaat . But I don’t see a lot of people working in the Jamaat anymore. if you remove those who don’t believe in the founder. �

Sir, I’m much better at thinking, and I see you’re the only one who has the solution to this ahmadiyya case. You can work to save ahmadis, their offspring, and generations coming from this mess, and you will be able to take good care, and that is if you set up a long-term plan to turn this group into a charity or something like real peace. I am willing to work with you together to bring the group gradually to safety no matter how long.�

I know that telling people the truth at once is shocking to them and that its negative effects may be more than positive, but silence entirely will increase the problem.�If you are to solve this case from its roots, history will write you a great and unprecedented position, and you will receive the greatest rewards from God and people. I can help you with that to the end if you accept my proposal. God is behind the point. Message finished..�

I gave him the message, and he said to me, ” what did you write I said, ” I can’t talk before you read it and I hope you’ll meet with you after reading it, but it’s a big deal and I wasn’t expecting my whole life a nightmare like that. He said, ” What’s wrong with you, do you want to leave the Jamaat or�I said, please, to postpone the talk after seeing the content of the message I wrote to you in detail. He said well, give me a day or two and I’ll read it and meet again.�

40 minutes later, one of the guards came to my office troubled and said, “attending ( means Caliph ) wants you now, so I went to him, and when I walked in.. He said to me,” what I said about the founder And he said to me, and he was trembling in his words, so that his hands were so shaking, and his voice was spotty: I read all your message, and I find myself obliged to release you from your work and let you go.�

So he ended the topic instead of discussing or showing hard evidence of his practical and spiritual experiences and miracles in response to his daily claim that we didn’t see! Yeah, instead of showing me an example to say to the founder, he soon said, ” I’m gonna have to fire you from your work and get you out of Jamaat. (IKHRAJ).�

There are other important details I will mention later God willing, but I want to mention here at last this meeting I asked the Caliph: for God’s sake, what would you do if you were in my place? He replied “probably I would have done �the same what you did.”�

Since that moment, a terrible series of defamation, abuse, insults and cruelty has begun, so that every ahmadi is intimidated from just thinking about what I have thought, and from just looking at what I have looked into, and from just breathing the breezes of freedom that I will talk about these details later, God willing.�

In conclusion, I pray to God to guide the ahmadis and their people in delivering the truth to their families, children and relatives. If they do so gradually and in stages, it is important not to contribute to the spread of falsehood and lies, but to help each other in research, reading and understanding, and to demand that everything be accurate and documented, and that The responses are official, and from specialists, especially with regard to the Arabic language that has all known the low level of ạlmyrzạ.�

My heart will remain open to all ahmadis, in hope that they will not obey it, nor will they respond to any denied, or hear false rumours, and rule on something before they hear all parties
Humble self.
Ikrima Najami


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Mirza Nasir Ahmad claims that he was not in Rabwah during the train attacks of May 29th, 1974

We have written on this topic extensively, to catch up start here:

Mirza Nasir Ahmad’s explanation as given to the Samdani Commission
“””Mirza Nasir Ahmed, head of the Ahmadiyya Community, told the tribunal holding inquiry into the Rabwah Railway Station Incident during his statement that on May 29, when the incident took place he was not present in Rabwah and had gone to his lands about 12 miles away.  On his return the same day, he received reports of the incident and from the them came to believe that the Jamaat-i-Ahmadiyya had no hand in the incident.

The statement of Mirza Nasir Ahmad and that of Agha Shorish Kashmiri, chief of the Anjuman-i-Tahafuz-i-Khatmi-Nubuwwat, which were recorded in camera by the Tribunal were later, allowed to be published.

Mirza Nasir Ahmad said that the Jamaat-i-Ahmadiya’s involvement in such an incident was impossible.  He said neither Jamaat-i-Ahmadiya, nor any of its sub-organization or some group of persons attached to them could plan such an incident.  He felt that the plan of the incident might have been prepared by the united opposition parties or by a group of opportunist elements of the ruling party.

According to witness (Mirza Nasir Ahmad), the responsibility of the incident lay with the Provincial government and not the federal government.  The witness added that certain persons of Rabwah were also involved in the May 29 incident.  However, they had not done so under the directions from any party of organization.

He admitted that in his congregational address on May 31, he had said that the May 29 incident was pre-planned.  He said, he said so in view of some subsequent happenings specially the disturbances that took place at Lyallpur.

On a question from the Tribunal as to why he did not bother to get information about the incident, the witness (Mirza Nasir Ahmad) said because he did not attach much importance to it as such happenings had become common during the last three years.

According to the witness (mirza nasir Ahmad), the police had made indiscriminate arrests in connection with the Rabwah incident and even some Non-Ahmadi’s had also been arrested.  He said he could not say if some foreign power also was behind the incident.

Asked about his interview to correspondent of the Associated Press of America, the Ahmadiyya Chief said his interview had been somewhat misreported.  He said it was not true that the Pakistan Air Force planes had given a salute at the last annual convention of the Jamaat-i-Ahmadiyya at Rabwah.

Mirza Nasir Ahmed said it was not true that he wanted to purchase a Canadian radio transmitter having a range from 2500 to 3000 miles.

However, he said the Jamaat-i-Ahmadiyya intended to install a broadcasting station in Nigeria and for this purpose the Ahmadi’s all over the world had made contributions.

Agha Shorish Kashmiri, in his statement, said said that on May 29, Mr. Afzal Saeed, Private Secretary to the Prime Minister had contacted him on telephone to give a message from the Prime Minister.  In his message Mr. Bhutto had told the witness (agha shorish) that some foreign powers were out to disintegrate the country.  The Premier expressed the desire that the opposition leaders should help the Government maintain law and order situation so as to foil the evil designs of the enemies—PPI.””””

Newspaper scan, From the Pakistan Times, Aug-1st, 1974

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Nooruddin promoted extreme purdah!!!

Ahmadiyya practices extreme purdah.  All you have to do is go to Rabwah and look around.  However, MGA’s wife didn’t seem to obey these rules, see here:

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Summary of this quotation

This is an excerpt from a book called Al Furqan by Maulana Abul Atta Jalandari who I believe was a missionary of Jamat Ahmadiyya and the father of Ataul Mujeeb Rashed (Imam of the London Mosque). Here he relates the following:

Once Maulana Nooruddin Sahab said that Afghan women’s chadar is exactly that covering which the Quran requires. You cannot see the face. And only in order to see the way is there an opening for the eyes to see. According to Maulana Nooruddin in this way men will not see the woman. For this reason he did not like ordinary burkas because the gaze remains straight and is not lowered.


Page # 39


Ahmadi girls in Canada, the USA, the UK and Germany are fed up with Ahmadiyya isolation

We recently found a testimony on the a reddit forum by a young ahmadi girl.  Judge for yourself..

The testimony

One thing that pisses me off is inequality in Ahmadiyya, I’m at point where I don’t care about purdah or any of that crap. Guys get to dress whatever way they want they don’t have to wear a thick ass purka in the summer when it’s 35 degrees out. A woman could literally be dying because she’s heat stroke in a purka and all these jammatty woman and men talk and say stuff like “ oh look that woman isn’t wearing a purka she’s going to hell”.

Another thing that pisses me off is how men are aloud to read speeches in front of woman but woman aren’t aloud to read speeches to men in the Jalsa Salana. When u confront them and straight say that they say “ oh it’s so men don’t get distracted or they don’t get attracted to u or give u a dirty stare and look at u more as an object then person.

The whole purka thing is so annoying. I myself am a girl and I have to wear a purka but I don’t wear it on a daily basis only at Jalsas and Eid and such events. Ripped jeans are becoming very popular and are very in (fashion) I myself never really pictured myself wearing ripped clothing, but as I got older I started liking ripped jeans more and more. One day I was at a local mall looking for new jeans, I came across a pair of disstressed/ripped black denim and tbh I thought it looked sick and it was only disstressed on the knee. As me and my mother were browsing around for pants I saw them and I said these look nice and mom replied and said “their nice but their rippped on the knees” I replied and said so what” my mom said “ so what besharam, ripped jeans are banned in Islam”. Ever since that day I’ve started liking ripped jeans more but of course my mom would never change her mind. Tbh i myself think that there’s nothing wrong with wearing ripped jeans but because of my faith I can’t express myself threw my clothing which is a big disappointment. I’m religious in some ways like I believe in the book I believe in Hadhrat Muhammad and I read my namaz as much as possible, because of religion I can’t express myself and I hate it I honestly hate the feeling.

Another thing that triggers me is how I can’t marry a guy that’s not ahmadi. As I get older I sometimes thing about university and school and my love life. I wanna meet a guy who loves me truly and will never break my heart and someone who’s not uneducated someone who’s stylish and overall smart. My mom says that she doesn’t want me to do an arranged marriage she wants me to pick the guy my self but make sure he’s ahmadi, now that’s the part the recks everything, the guy has to be Ahmadi. Now u tell me how am I suppose to find a guy I love with all these qualities to be an ahemdi, I’ll be honest I don’t wanna marrry a white guy I wanna marry a Muslim guy but someone who’s not “AHMADI”. The problem is my parents and most of my family in general are super jammaty and they’ll freak if they find out that I wanna marry a Muslim guy who’s not ahmadi, but I feel like my mom would be mad at first but then understand and be okay with my decision.

I know most of the stuff I stated is kinda off topic but the truth is I have a lot on mind right now and I wanna pore it out and see what people will say or how people will respond to this. I’ll make this loud and clear for everyone, people who blindfully follow this shit are stupid and are wasting their time with Ahmadiyya. When I was younger I’m talking like a few years ago 11-12 year old me, I was pretty jammatty and listened to my parents a lot about religion, to this day I only listen to stuff that’s related with Islam not Ahemdiayya just Islam in general, like reading the Quran and believing the Quran and reading my daily prayers and Namaz, someone people might say that I don’t listen to my parents I’ll be totally honestly, I do listen to them but I only listen to the important stuff, the stuff that will help me live my life the right way and just being a good human being in general.

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A certain Miss Rose wrote letters to Mirza Ghulam Ahmad

My team continues to dig into older Ahmadiyya literature.  This specific story comes from Mufti Muhammad Sadiq‘s biography of MGA entitled “Zikr-e Habib“.  Also, it is important to remember that Mufti Muhammad Sadiq was one of the main ghost writers of MGA.

Summary of this situation
As reported by Mufti Muhammad sadiq (in picture) one of the sahabi of Ahmadiyya says in his book ” Zikray habib ” that One Lady (Miss rose ) use to write letters to Mirza Qadyani , which use to be translated by Mufti sadiq to Mirza Qadyani , That lady was famous as ” Miss Ghalbou ” in (Ahamdia) circle . Miss Rose then once send flowers to mirza Qadyani and Mirza said to mufti to ” secure these flowers ” . Then Mirza narrated the verse that sending of these flowers were in fact the completion of prophecy of ” yaaateeqa min kullay fujjin Ameeq” . Mufti says that ” These flowers are still saved with me ”


Did Mirza Ghulam Ahmad’s wife wish to be released from her marriage?

MGA had some strange revelations, nowadays, Ahmadiyya apologists are busy trying to redefine those, since they are mostly unintelligible ramblings and made up quack stories.  We have found many instances of Ahmadiyya editing as well, honestly, we are late to this party, if you understand what that means.  Noentheless, this particular reference comes from the Diary of MGA, which has no publish date,  see page 29.  In fact, Ahmadiyya leadership seems to quote page 29 of MGA’s diary on this page in successive revelations.  However, they don’t indicate if all of these statements come from the same entry or not.  They probably did this purposely, so as to cause confusion.  The 2009 edition of Tadhkirah seems to give us more information.

The life of Nusrat Jehan, MGA’s wife

The reference from the 2004 edition of Tadhkirah

The reference from the 2009 edition of Tadhkirah

See page 1904

It’s as follows:

From Mahmud’s mother: 

[Arabic] I wish to be released.

From Allah: 

[Arabic] I wish to release.

What does this second statement seem to indicate?
In the new edition of Tadhkirah (2009), they seem to have added an additional reference.  It seems to indicate that MGA’s wife was asking to be released from marriage with MGA, MGA asked his GOD, his GOD responded that he wished to release her.

Another incident that seems to prove that MGA’s wife quit Ahmadiyya
From the 2009 online edition of Tadhkirah, page 682

[Urdu] Wife turned back. This is called apostasy. Our last hour.

[Notebook of the Revelations of the Promised Messiahas, p. 32]

Ak Shaikh’s video on this topic

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