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Abdul Sami Zafar tells the inside story on the May 29th, 1974 Rabwah train attacks

Intro
I have always written that Ahmadiyya leadership planned the 1974 Rabwah train attacks.  In this interview, Abdul Sami Zafar explains how Ahmadiyya leadership planned and executed the attack.  Abdul Sami is still an Ahmadi, however, he has called the Mirza family as a group of liars and thieves.  Abdul Sami still believes in MGA and that MGA was a prophet and a Messiah. That solidifies his testimony.  Further, much like all Ahmadis who were privy to this attack, he kept it a secret for 40+ years….the full interview can be found here: https://youtu.be/gytg6Wbbt4o

Abdul sami has joined a splinter sect of Ahmadis and their youtube channel is as follows: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCQiMckxUjV9tofP9mTv8aGg

Related essays
https://ahmadiyyafactcheckblog.wordpress.com/2017/07/02/an-ahmadi-spills-the-beans-on-the-rabwah-train-attack/

https://ahmadiyyafactcheckblog.com/2016/12/16/ahmadis-are-wrong-from-birth/

https://ahmadiyyafactcheckblog.com/?s=panama

He says:

  1.  Indeed, the teenagers stopped in on May 22nd, 1974 and cussed at a few Ahmadis who were there that day.
  2. Majlis Aamila then got the report and began discussing the matter.
  3. Majlis Aamila then planned everything, they sent Ahmadis to Peshawar, Sarghoda and planned the entire attack.
  4. They then began to collect local Khuddam from Rabwah and had them hide in ambush.
  5. The train-station manager was also Ahmadi, he also knew the whole story, he purposely made the train wait 30 mins at least.
  6. The attack was a success…
  7. However, the next day, Ahmadis began to be murdered and burned alive. The Mirza family had these attacks carried out and then lied about everything, They purposely got themselves declared non-muslim so as to get asylum abroad.

Also see here: https://ahmadiyyafactcheckblog.wordpress.com/2017/04/07/the-mirza-family-loved-the-persecution-they-call-is-free-press/

https://ahmadiyyafactcheckblog.com/?s=1974

https://ahmadiyyafactcheckblog.com/2017/11/04/mirza-tahir-ahmad-lied-about-ordinance-xx-and-his-exodus-from-pakistan/

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Who is Bashir Ahmad Orchard? The first Irish-Ahmadi Mullah

Intro
We have written about this mullah before.  As soon as he died, Ahmadiyya INC seems to have hired Noonan as a replacement.  In the below, we have posted his conversion story.

The data
http://whyahmadi.org/converts-accounts/account-of-bashir-ahmad-orchard.html

Account of Bashir Ahmad Orchard

Bashir-Ahmad-OrchardTorquay is a delightful holiday resort on the south coast of Devon and it was there that I first saw the light of the day on 26th April 1920. My father was a doctor and my mother had been a nurse prior to her marriage. Class distinction existed more than it does today. My parents belonged to the upper middle class. My paternal grandfather had also been a doctor while my mother’s father was an admiral. The only grandparent I knew was my maternal grandmother and she died while I was still a young boy.

I had two elder brothers but no sisters. The eldest, who was three years older than me, met an untimely death during the Second World War when the battleship on which he served was sunk in the Mediterranean by enemy action. My other brother, who was inclined towards religion from a young age (and is now a Roman Catholic Priest), was at middle age, a Protestant priest in the Church of England, but subsequently had to quit his vocation. He took up teaching as a profession in a school. He again had the urge to priesthood in the Roman Catholic Church. My mother also became a Roman Catholic soon after my brother’s conversion. She was a very religious lady all her life and regularly attended church. My father, however, was little interested in religion. One of my maternal aunts had been a missionary in china for forty years and had much to do in helping my brother first become a priest in the Church of England.

When I was three years old my father bought a house situated on a hill overlooking Torbay. It was on the fringe of the countryside at a point called Barton Cross. I used to love to roam the fields and woods also to find my way to the many beaches, which were not so very far away. I enjoyed gathering wild fruits and nuts. When in season, I used to get up in the early hours of the morning and search the fields for mushrooms before other people appeared on the scene for the same purpose. Those days remain with me as living memories.

My brothers and I went to Winchester Lodge Preparatory School. The headmaster was a keen cricketer who played for Wiltshire. I was in both the cricket and football teams. One by one we left the school, as we grew older and moved on to Monkton Combe, which is the name of a well-known public school on the outskirts of Bath. I never enjoyed school nor was a bright pupil. I left school at the age of sixteen without any kind of educational certificate. Once I expressed my desire to become a doctor and I thought my father would be pleased that I wanted to follow in his footsteps. He promptly rebuffed me and told me I could never become a doctor because I lacked the aptitude for diligent study.

I left school at the end of the summer term in 1936. During that last term my mother had been granted legal separation from my father and had taken up temporary residence in Bath. Later she settled in Bristol. I was at a loose end and for nothing better to do I joined the army although I was far below eighteen, which was the required minimum age. My regiment was the Somerset Light Infantry and my pay was two shillings (ten pence) a day. Life was tough and I did not find congenial companionship as I had been brought up in a more cultured society. I had signed up for seven years, but at the end of my second year, I wrote to my father requesting him to purchase my discharge, which was the only way of terminating my service. He promptly sent me a cheque for thirty-five pounds and within a few days I was back with my mother.

It appears that I still had some attachment for army life as I soon joined a Territorial Unit of the Royal Army Medical Corps. Territorials were part-time soldiers who normally did not have to train for more than one evening a week.

War clouds were looming on the horizon and on 3rd September 1939, Britain declared war on Germany. My unit was immediately mobilized and once again I was a full-time soldier. We were sent to France and later moved up into Belgium. The German offensive pushed us back to the beaches of Dunkirk from where the battered remnants of the British Expeditionary Force were evacuated back across the English Channel to their homeland. I remember boarding a boat crowded to capacity with dishevelled and weary troops. Almost immediately I fell asleep and when I awoke the boat was entering Dover harbour. Relief organisations were waiting to distribute tea and refreshments after which we were dispatched by train to a destination in Wales where, as heroes and not as prisoners, we were billeted in the cells of a local prison.

In 1941, I applied for a commission in the Indian army. I had to present myself before several interviewing boards and finally I was accepted as an officer cadet and sailed for India in 1942 with a contingent of other cadets. The ship was one in a large convoy, which took two months to reach Bombay. Our final destination was Bangalore where we underwent a six months’ course of training before being posted to our regiments as second lieutenants. I joined the 17th Dogra Regiment, which was stationed as Jullundur. Later was transferred to the Indian Army Ordnance Corps. I spent considerable time on active service in Assam and Burma. Perhaps one of my most memorable experiences was the siege of Kohima in the Manipur hills close to the Assam-Burma border. I was one of a motley force congregated on a wooden hill and completely surrounded by the invading Japanese. We were subjected to bombardment and attack for two weeks until reinforcements eventually broke through and relieved us. Supplies were dropped to us by parachute. On one occasion, in particular, I was very fortunate not to lose my life. We were in the trenches. A senior officer called me away from my position for a few minutes. During that brief period a shell landed in the trench on the spot, which I had just vacated. Two soldiers who had been near to me were killed.

The fore mentioned event took place in 1944, in which year deeper spiritual inclinations seemed to awaken within me. I was never much influenced by Christianity. I had become quite enchanted with Hindu literature and a close friend of mine was a Brahmin. As yet I had not been attracted in any way towards Islam although I did enjoy reading about the lives of the Moghul emperors in Glimpses of World History by Pandit Nehru.

Right up to that time my enjoyment in life was more or less the same as most young men. At sixteen I had become a regular drinker and smoker. Gambling was in my blood. When I was eighteen I had a temporary craze for dancing and, of course, I enjoyed going to the cinema and theatre. Although smoking is not specifically forbidden in Islam and may be considered a lesser vice, it was the hardest of them all for me to overcome. Nevertheless the physical and spiritual benefits gained from discarding that obnoxious habit have been immense.

My unit was camped near Imphal, which was a frontier outpost close to the Burma border. An Ahmadi sergeant who was also serving in my unit concluded, for reasons best known to himself, that I might be a person to whom he could introduce the message of Islam. His name was Abdul Rahman Dehlvi. There were also a number of other Britishers attached to the same unit, but as far as I know, he never approached any of them. Naturally he had to exercise diplomacy in view of the fact that I was commissioned officer with whom it would not be normal to discuss or propagate freely his religion. He arranged for a copy of the ‘Philosophy of the Teachings of Islam‘ by Hazrat Mirza Ghulam Ahmad to be sent to me from Qadian.

My senses were exceedingly dull in those days and for this reason I found much of its contents hard to comprehend. Nevertheless parts of it inspired me and uplifted my spirits. Later on I deliberately left it on the reading table in the officers’ mess but I do not think anybody paid much attention to it. That was more than thirty-five years ago, during which time I have read it thirty to forty times and, like the hopeful batsman, I may score fifty sooner or later.

Two weeks leave were due to me and I was undecided where to go. Sergeant Abdul Rahman Dehlvi urged me to go and stay with one of his friends in Qadian, which was quite an unknown place to me and involved a long journey of approximately a thousand miles. A couple of days later I told him that I decided not to go. My pronouncement brought such a look of disappointment on his face that, merely out of sympathy for him, I immediately reversed my decision and promised to go for a few days.

Imphal lay about eighty miles from the nearest railway link at a jungle base called Manipur. The two places were connected by a long winding road that snaked up and down and round about a succession of jungle-clad hills. This was the first stage of my journey. It took me at least a week to reach Qadian, which I then came to know, was a small isolated town. Nobody was on the station to receive me as no one had been intimated the time of my arrival. I hired a horse vehicle and asked the driver to take me to the house of Mufti Mohammed Sadiq, which was the name of the person, with whom I was supposed to stay. I was jogged along a bumpy road and then through some narrow streets until the driver stopped by a door in a wall inside of which, some steps led to another door on the level of a roof courtyard. I knocked on the upper door. A chain jangled inside and the door was opened by a white bearded elderly gentleman stripped bare to the waist, no doubt on account of the hot weather. He was Mufti Sadiq. Both of us were surprised to see one another. I introduced myself and forthwith Mufti Sadiq instructed the horse vehicle to take me to the guesthouse, where I was accommodated in a sparsely furnished whitewashed room. Shortly afterward Mufti Sadiq came around to meet me. This time he was dressed in flowing robes and wore a magnificent headdress. Later I came to know that he was a companion of the Promised Messiah, Hazrat Mirza Ghulam Ahmed, and also had been the first missionary to the United States of America.

Next day Mufti Sadiq escorted me around Qadian drawing my attention to various places of interest. I remember asking him on that occasion, what was the attitude of the Jama’at towards smoking? He replied, while it was not specifically forbidden, it was discouraged.

The highlight of my two-day visit was an audience with Hazrat Mirza Bashiruddin Mahmood Ahmad, the Khalifa and the supreme head of the Jama’at Ahmadiyya. This was a memorable event, although at that time I did not fully appreciate the significance of his spiritual status. He was seated on a chair on the verandah of his house. I do not remember the details of our conversation, though I do remember expressing my view that it was sufficient to follow the Ten Commandments in order to live a good life. His answer was to the effect that they were only some general principles which needed further clarification, such as the commandment ‘Thou shalt not kill’.

I was impressed most of all by his luminous countenance, which radiated an intangible spiritual light, which seemed to shine from his face and when he spoke, a charming smile animated his face. He was an embodiment of energetic repose, radiating physical, intellectual and spiritual magnetism, which captivated all within his presence. I realized that I was in the company of no ordinary person.

Generally I was impressed by everyone I met. This was what attracted me towards Islam more than anything else. My knowledge of Islam at that time was negligible, but I reasoned, that if these people were fruits of the faith, then it certainly had something to offer. I was in search of the truth and later I was to realize that I had found it in Qadian.

A notable event took place in my life in the evening after my departure. I was waiting on the station at Amritsar which is a town about thirty miles from Qadian. While waiting for my connection, I joined some other officers for drinks in the refreshment room. I was suddenly overcome with a feeling of aversion. The atmosphere seemed repulsive compared with the holy atmosphere of Qadian. There and then I resolved to forsake drinking once and for all. One of the first things I did when I rejoined my unit on the Burma front was to throw away all the bottles of alcohol I had in my possession.

The army was now on the offensive pushing deeper and deeper into Burma. The Japanese were in retreat and we reached a small town called Meiktilla. It was there that I made my decision to join Ahmadiyyat, the true Islam. I signed the Bai’at form and posted it to Qadian. That was, no doubt, the greatest step I had ever taken in my life.

I have already mentioned that I was shackled to both these vices (drinking and gambling).  Even on my historical visit to Qadian I carried a bottle of whisky and a bottle of rum in my luggage. Fortunately some higher power or my better judgment prevented me from taking drinks while I was there, although at that time, I did not consider drinking to be wrong in any way. I used to gamble on horses, greyhounds, dice and card games. Once when stationed at Imphal I lost a month’s pay gambling on cards with officers. These were the first two evils from which Islam rescued me.

Prior to my acceptance of Ahmadiyyat, I used to contribute nothing in the way of God or towards charity. Islam taught me the philosophy of giving in the way of Allah. Sacrificing what one loves for the sake of Allah wins the pleasure of Allah and earns one abundant reward. I commenced by paying one sixteenth of my income and later increased it to one tenth (Al-Wassiyat). Finally in 1967, I commenced paying one third and have been doing so ever since. Despite the fact that I enjoy only a meagre income, life is good to me in every respect. In addition to Zaka’at, I also regularly give Tahrik-i-Jadid and Ansar contributions, plus payments towards my Jubilee Fund promise and various other appeals.

Ahmadiyyat introduced into my life the regular observance of daily prayer which have proved a source of great blessing and comfort to me, testifying to the truth of the verse in the Holy Quran:

It is only in the remembrance of Allah that hearts can find comfort. (13:29)

I am still novice in the art of prayer. Prayer is more than a routine habit. I have gained much on the subject from the writings and discourses of the Promised Messiah may peace be upon him. They have been a source of inspiration to me.

Sometimes it is a matter of wonder to me how any Muslim, who is attached to Islam with a sincere heart, can intentionally fail to offer the prescribed prayers as commanded by Allah. Once when I was in Qadian shortly after my acceptance of Islam, an announcement by Hazrat Khalifatul Masih II appeared on a board outside Masjid-i-Mubarak, stating that if anyone during a period of ten years, knowingly and deliberately forsook even one prayer of the day, then he could not count himself as a true Ahmadi.

Everybody dreams. It is a normal function of the body. Investigators have ascertained that even animals dream. Since time immemorial, God has revealed Himself through the medium of dreams. The Holy Qur’an and earlier scriptures abound with incidents of people to whom God communicated knowledge, messages and future events through dreams. I do not recall the details of any dream before the time I accepted Ahmadiyyat. Since then, however, I have had many dreams, which I have never forgotten. Throughout the years they have remained with me as fresh and clear as at the time I received them.

I had no goals or ambition in life before I accepted Ahmadiyyat. I had no plans for the future. During the war I was a soldier due to compulsory service. I was more or less drifting through life like a capsized boat in the open sea. Yet when I was a very young child I was once gripped by a powerful yearning, which occurred one night when I was bed. I wanted to become and do something extraordinary. I did not want to pass through life being just one of the crowd. I wanted to be unique in one way or another. At that time I am sure I was not more than ten years of age at the most. I do not recall ever thinking or dwelling on the matter again. It was just like a flash of the moment, which never re-occurred but must have taken root in my subconscious mind from where later it was to emerge into reality. It would appear that this was brought about through my acceptance of Ahmadiyyat as the following events may suggest.

When the world war ended in 1945, I returned to England and was immediately demobilised. I went straight to my mother in Bristol where I stayed for a couple of days. I then travelled to London in search of the London Mosque where I introduced myself to the Imam Maulana J.D. Shams. I expressed my desire to work with the mission and also dedicate my life completely to the service of Islam. This event has been described by Maulana Shams:

After his release from the army, when he arrived in England, he stayed for two days only at Bristol with his relatives and so, on the third day, he was at the mosque in London. During his conversation with me he expressed his willingness to live at the mosque and become a Muslim missionary. I explained to him the responsibilities of a missionary and the required qualifications for missionary work. Eventually I promised him to see to his case sympathetically for missionary work and would write to him this matter. He was a little bit upset from my reluctance in accepting his offer readily. After a few days he, however, dedicated his life for the service of Islam unconditionally like other waqifeen. I sent his application to Hazrat Amir-ul-Momineen, with my opinion that he might be a useful missionary. I asked him to come and stay with us and to begin the study of Islam. Hazrat Amir-ul-Momineen graciously accepted his Waqf and Mr. Orchard began to work with other missionaries.
Review Of Religions, June 1947

Allah works in mysterious ways. He willed that this insignificant individual should become the first European Ahmadi Muslim missionary. This was, indeed, a singular favour, which Allah bestowed upon me. The following words of counsel were delivered to me by Hazrat Khalifatul Masih II:

At this time you are unknown, no doubt, and unheard of, but soon the time is coming when nations will feel proud of you and sing your praises. So mind, you do not take lightly what you say and what you do. Do not think that your movements are only personal, no, but they pertain to the whole British nation. The posterity will imitate your movements and follow them to the letter…if your movements and activities will be in accordance with Islam, and noble and grand, then they will be instrumental in raising the moral tone of your nation, but if they are below the mark and not in strict accordance with Islam, your nation will be the loser, thereby try therefore, to set a noble example for posterity, otherwise God will have another man to fulfill this task. When Ahmadiyyat will have spread all over the world, and spread it must, no power on earth can impede its destined progress, then there will be reverence for you in the hearts of the people, greater, than the one which they have for the greatest of the Prime Ministers.
Review of Religions, June 1947

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Maulana Bashir Orchard with Hazrat Khalifat ul Masih IV meeting Mr Montgomery Watt

I close this short review of my life with gratitude to Allah for his blessings and favours and with the declarations that all praise is due to Allah the Lord of all the worlds.

Mr Bashir Orchard served as a missionary in England between 1946 and 1952. He was then posted to Trinidad, West Indies from 1953. In 1957, he was recalled to Rabwah for an eight month refresher course, after which he was posted as a missionary to Guyana, South America. In 1966, he was transferred to Glasgow and remained there until 1983, when he was posted to Oxford, England.

In 1987, he was transferred to Islamabad, England, to concentrate on being Editor of a magazine called ‘Review of Religions’.

Mr Orchard has written several articles and books on Islam including ‘Life Supreme‘ and ‘Guideposts‘.

He would always take part in the Charity Walks and was determined to finish the walk, no matter what the distance was.

He passed away in 2002.  May Allah grant him the highest abode in heaven, Amen.

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United Nations Appoints Prominent Ahmadi Muslim Barrister Mr. Karim Asad Ahmad Khan to Head Investigation into ISIS War Crimes

Intro
Ahmadi’s have been securing jobs in global organizations since 1947.  They had infiltrated the United Nations, the World Bank, WTO and many other organizations.  Ahmadi’s have purposely been put into these positions by the British Government.  The British never forget the loyalty that Ahmadi’s showed towards the British.

See these essays for corroborating data
https://ahmadiyyafactcheckblog.com/2016/10/15/sind-holdings-was-owned-by-mirza-muzzafar-ahmad/

https://ahmadiyyafactcheckblog.com/?s=Zafrullah+Khan

Mr. Karim Asad Ahmad Khan, the son-in-law of Mirza Tahir Ahmad
He was recently appointed to the United Nations to oversee war crimes.  However, he will be supporting Ahmadiya interests as they come up.

United Nations Appoints Prominent Ahmadi Muslim Barrister Mr. Karim Asad Ahmad Khan to Head Investigation into ISIS War Crimes

Mr. Khan has extensive experience in acting as prosecutor, victim’s counsel and defence lawyer in domestic and international criminal tribunals

Times of Ahmad | News Watch | US Desk
Source/Credit: United Nations
By Web Desk | May 31, 2018

United Nations Secretary-General António Guterres today announced the appointment of Mr. Karim Asad Ahmad Khan of the United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland as the Special Adviser and Head of the Investigative Team, which was established pursuant to Security Council resolution 2379 (2017), to support domestic efforts to hold ISIL (Da’esh) accountable by collecting, preserving, and storing evidence in Iraq of acts that may amount to war crimes, crimes against humanity and genocide committed by the terrorist group ISIL (Da’esh) in Iraq.

Mr. Khan is the first Head of the Investigative Team.  He is a barrister and Queen’s Counsel in the United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland, with more than 25 years of professional experience as an international criminal law and human rights lawyer.

Mr. Khan has extensive experience in acting as prosecutor, victim’s counsel and defence lawyer in domestic and international criminal tribunals, including, but not limited to, the International Criminal Court, the International Criminal Tribunal for Rwanda, the International Tribunal for the former Yugoslavia, the Extraordinary Chambers in the Courts of Cambodia, the Special Tribunal for Lebanon and the Special Court for Sierra Leone.

Mr. Khan holds an LLB (Hons) in law from King’s College, University of London, and various other degrees and qualifications. Mr. Khan has studied and lectured on Islamic law and has published extensively in the area of international criminal justice and human rights.

Mr. Khan is the co-author of “Archbold International Criminal Courts, Practice, Procedure and Evidence”, a leading practitioner’s text in the area.

Mr. Karim A.A. Khan is a son-in-law of the late His Holiness Mirza Tahir Ahmad (1928-2003), who served as the fourth Caliph of the Ahmadiyya Muslim Community.

UN announcement:

Mr. Karim Asad Ahmad Khan of the United Kingdom – Special Adviser of the Investigative Team established pursuant to Security Council resolution 2379 (2017)

United Nations Secretary-General António Guterres today announced the appointment of Mr. Karim Asad Ahmad Khan of the United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland as the Special Adviser and Head of the Investigative Team, which was established pursuant to Security Council resolution 2379 (2017), to support domestic efforts to hold ISIL (Da’esh) accountable by collecting, preserving, and storing evidence in Iraq of acts that may amount to war crimes, crimes against humanity and genocide committed by the terrorist group ISIL (Da’esh) in Iraq.
Mr. Khan is the first Head of the Investigative Team.  He is a barrister and Queen’s Counsel in the United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland, with more than 25 years of professional experience as an international criminal law and human rights lawyer.  Mr. Khan has extensive experience in acting as prosecutor, victim’s counsel and defence lawyer in domestic and international criminal tribunals, including, but not limited to, the International Criminal Court, the International Criminal Tribunal for Rwanda, the International Tribunal for the former Yugoslavia, the Extraordinary Chambers in the Courts of Cambodia, the Special Tribunal for Lebanon and the Special Court for Sierra Leone.
Mr. Khan holds an LLB (Hons) in law from King’s College, University of London, and various other degrees and qualifications. Mr. Khan has studied and lectured on Islamic law and has published extensively in the area of international criminal justice and human rights.

Mr. Khan is a member of the Ahmadiyya Muslim Community and son-in-law of the late Hadhrat Mirza Tahir Ahmad, Khalifat-tul-Masih IV (may Allah be pleased with him).

source:

http://timesofahmad.blogspot.com/2018/05/united-nations-appoints-prominent.html#more

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Noonan was interviewed in 2006–new data on this Mullah

Intro
Michael Peter Noonan aka Ibrahim Noonan is a terrible Mullah of Ahmadiyya INC.  He lies on behalf of Ahmadiyya every single day.

Related Essay’s
https://ahmadiyyafactcheckblog.com/?s=Noonan

Link to the older interview
http://www.socialaffairsunit.org.uk/blog/archives/000945.php

Data

Muslims in Galway: Jane Kelly meets Imam Ibrahim and hears how a good Catholic boy came to be a Muslim missionary seeking to convert Ireland to Islam

Posted by Jane Kelly

Michael Peter Noonan was born as one of seven children into a lower middle class Irish catholic family. He wanted to become a priest as a teenager. After losing his Catholic faith he became a night-club bouncer and body guard in London. Now he is Imam Ibrahim and wants to convert Ireland to Islam. Jane Kelly hears his story.

When Imam Ibrahim stands in the centre of Galway in his voluminous robes preaching the message of Islam, his main problem comes from other Muslims. There are over a thousand of them, immigrants from Iraq, Libya, Saudi and Algeria in what was until recently a quiet Irish town. He says:

I get abuse. They call me a Kaffir or infidel and say I should die.

He represents a reformist sect which orthodox Muslims dislike, but they are also a bit suspicious as he is in fact Irish. Ibrahim began life as plain Michael Peter Noonan, in Waterford. He is the only home-grown Irish Imam on the planet so far, and his conversion is surely a sign of the strange times in which we live.When I first visited Galway, in 1989, there were only three Muslims there. Dr Tasleem Amhed and Arshad Rashid had just arrived from Pakistan to start an Irish Jihad, a word then largely unknown in the west. They bought a five bedroomed house on a wind-blasted estate, and lived there with Rashid’s wife Zahide, who was hidden from Tasleem’s eyes behind a purdah curtain.

When Tasleem told me that it would be easy for him to convert the Irish to Islam I laughed like a banshee, picturing future renditions of “When Islamic Eyes are Smiling”, “Does Your Mother Come From Mecca?” and “Seven Sober Nights”.

But we’ve all drunk a lot of mineral water since then. Muslims have arrived en masse in Ireland, their leaders have grasped the proselytising power of TV, and astonishingly Islam is now seen by many as a viable replacement for 1500 years of Christian civilisation.

Ibrahim, 40, chatted to me recently in the same house over tea and delicious cakes made by his wife Qanita, 35, who lives behind the same curtain, now getting thin with age. In the background, MDM, a 24 hour Islamic TV channel shows an ancient white robed cleric preaching, and the room is full of box files, religious books, computer, photocopier and printer; all the paraphernalia of a modern missionary.

Ibrahim began life in simpler times as one of seven children in a lower middle-class family. His father Dennis was a builder, his mother Irene a hairdresser. Aged 12 he joined the Legion of Mary, practicing prayer and good works in the community. He did well academically and represented his school in athletics. At 18 he won a scholarship to Maynooth, Ireland’s most prestigious seminary, but in his late teens he changed his mind about becoming a priest. He says:

I worried about celibacy and questioned the divinity of Jesus.

He found the Church neither sacred nor practical enough.Having upset his family, he headed for London and to support himself, like the notorious Abu Hamsa, he worked as a night-club bouncer and body guard. During the day he protected the likes of the Sultan of Brunei and the Arsenal football team. At night he was a bouncer at Equinox, a flesh-pot on Leicester Square. He says:

I used to escort the models like Caprice and Elle McPherson into the VIP room. It was my job to stay with them.I saw people snorting cocaine and having sex. There were “Page Three” models who would do certain things – I won’t say what. There were wet t-shirt contests, and a lot of frolicking. I saw prostitutes, people trying to spike girls’ drinks and giving out ecstasy tablets. The bands I looked after were often high on heroin, they took it in front of me, they were so stupid and arrogant.

It was a dangerous and degrading job, dealing with people on drugs, out of control, not concerned about morals or God.

But it was his encounter with Barry Manilow which, perhaps understandably, finally pushed him into the arms of Allah. Ibrahim says:

I’d been a fan of his, but when I met him, perhaps he was having a bad day, but I found him bossy, arrogant and rude. I didn’t like the way he spoke to his co-stars in his show. I was very unhappy after that, he seemed to sum up the disappointment I felt about life and I decided to make a decision.

Islam with its authoritarian structure and dearth of fashionable crooners, was on offer and in 1995 he converted. For this sense of redemption and belonging, he was prepared to change everything. He had a house in Lewisham, a working wife and two small sons. Ibrahim says:

My interest in Islam destroyed the marriage. She liked night-clubs and the western way of life. I felt that I had normalised my life by becoming a Muslim, to me the Koran seemed rational, but she couldn’t see it. She refused to wear a veil or change her habits.

Three years ago, after learning Arabic, he returned to Ireland and agreed to marry a Pakistani he’d never met. She was chosen by the old man sermonising on the TV behind us. He says dispassionately, his mind fully focussed on his mission:

I trusted him and I trusted God. She’s a good wife and given me children.

Of his mission he says:

It will happen. Mohammed was told by God that Islam would rise in the West. I just need a small nucleus of Irish converts and they will bring other people in.

But did Mohammed mean as far west as Galway? While he talks two American Mormon missionaries who’ve come to the door also looking for converts, are invited in. Dressed in identical black anoraks they sit on the sofa smiling blankly. Beverages become an issue as they not only eschew alcohol like him, but can’t drink coffee or tea either. Sipping water, they nod at everything he says.The Mormons have 90 missionaries on the streets and made 125 converts in Galway last year, Ibrahim made two: Anna, 31, a Finn researching “holistic science”, and Christopher, now Yusuf Pender, 24, who studies film.

Yusuf discovered Islam through MDM, but is also bitterly disillusioned with Catholicism. He says in disgust:

It was dead even before the sex scandals, it’s about politics and power not spirituality.

His younger brother, Thomas, 22, is also thinking about converting.According to Galway Diocesan statistics, 95% of the population still have their babies baptised, but sitting among the Mormons and the Muslims I feel I have entered a new age of globalised Puritanism.

For these people the liberal agenda of their parents has failed, and Catholicism as it slackens its rigidities is not enough – they prefer the community of faith that howls at Ibrahim in the street.

Jane Kelly worked as a full time staff feature writer for the Daily Mail for 15 years, but she now lives as a freelance journalist and painter in west London. She is chiefly interested in writing about unusual, usually unpopular people.

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Did you ever go across the sea to Ireland?
When the muzzein calls the faithful folk to pray,
As each unrolls his carpet, pointed southwards,
You hear the call to prayer on Gaaaalwaaaay Baaaaaaay.

Yes, it is almost irresistible.

Posted by: s masty at May 30, 2006 05:40 PM

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I feel a bit like Snoopy, shaking his fist at the Red Baron, since S.J.Masty came with his parody on a lovely old Irish song. I remember my father singing this (yes, I too am from that side of the water). The verse I particularly remember is:

For the strangers came and tried to teach us their ways
They scorned us just for being what we are
But they might as well go chasing after moonbeams
Or light a penny candle from a star

So it seems that certain strangers have now come to Erin, on a quest not so futile. But I can well see how Michael Peter Noonan came to follow that path. I came across the water when I was knee-high to a grasshopper, and had a C-of-E education, but Mr. Noonan’s misgivings about his Catholic education strike a strong chord with me about mine. Some years later, I made a lot of Arab friends, and found their culture so much more attractive than ours. Even in those days, among the student body, girls would be despised if they did and despised if they didn’t. I still think there is much to be said for the values of Muslim societies, even if these values are betrayed by hypocritical rogue males who do unspeakable things to women in the name of Islam. As it is written (Psalm 50, 16 and 21):

But unto the wicked God saith, What hast thou to do to declare my statutes, or that thou shouldest take my covenant in thy mouth?These things hast thou done, and I kept silence; thou thoughtest that I was altogether such an one as thyself: but I will reprove thee, and set them in order before thine eyes.

But then I found certain things that worried me deeply, for example, the statement that Jesus was NOT crucified. While the good teachings of Islam remain attractive, and Islamic philosophers such as Ibn Sina are head and shoulders above most of those of the West, there are discrepancies which make me wonder, what is its actual agenda? Is it to stop people becoming Christians?

Posted by: Robert H. Olley at May 31, 2006 07:11 PM

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I have read this article and was astonished at my findings. I would like to clarify a few points that have been above by Michael Noonan.

In regards to his statement about how our marriage ended due to the fact of my western way of life is fabrication. I am a born muslim and his reasons for conversion was so we could marry. I do not deny he then took on the religion above my marriage, I continued to wear a head scarf as my religon requests while we were married and there was no nightclubbing involved.

I am not want to respond to these type of accusations made like so many in the past, a lot of this information is inaccurate, but it was my older son who was searching for his father on the internet due to no contact in 10 years. They are very disapointed that their own father portrays no interest in his children’s lives yet he preaches Islam and I know Islam’s way is not to leave your children. My son has presented this and questioned me.

There is numerous things I have read in this post that are incorrect, like his middle name for a start, his career and his dates whether this has been made up by the interviewer or came from Michael it is misleading information to my children.

I know Michael (Ibrahim) is a devoted Muslim and is very passionate to Islam.

Posted by: Marina Ayaz at August 1, 2006 03:43 AM

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Salam ‘

This so called Journalist is a hack and an Islamophobe. This is a total misrepresentation of our conversation and most of it is made up. Iman Ibrahim is a very pios, intelegent Muslim (I know my spelling is crap) and gave that interview in good faith.

As for the comments his ex-wife made…well a day dosent pass when he dosent talk about his children but his wife wont let him see them becouse she is….well she is not telling the truth.

The Daily Mail is a racist brit paper with an anti Catholic & Anti-Islamic agenda. And his wife is not old… she is only 35….ageism..

So Byeeeeeee……….

Posted by: Yusuf Pender at September 3, 2007 03:03 PM

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For all those concernd, 90% of what is written in this article is not true, and blown out of porportion. I had Muslims friends long before I met my former wife, and had interest in Islam but I found True Islam in Ahmadiyyat and God works in his own ways to bring people to Him, and it may have happened through me meeting my former wife, but I accepted Islam for sake of God not because of marrage. I am not here to put blame on any one but she has said something which is not true, I have done every thing to see my childern and have asked her many times to allow me to see them them, my parent are proof of this, my former wife still has contact with them and my sons have been to my parents home, I love my sons more then I can explain with every heart beat I remember them. I have always shown respect towards my former wife because she the Mother of my Sons this is the teaching of Islam. I have spoken with Jane Kelly about what has been written and asked for it to removed. May the peace of almighty Allah be with you.

Ibrahim Noonan

Posted by: Ibrahim Michael Noonan at September 20, 2007 12:16 PM

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Hi there My name is John Noonan Mick’s younger brother and i would like to say for one my father was a roofer not a builder,what his ex wife has said is absolutly true, he actualy had to go on the run in london 4 months with my big sis marina, until he finally converted to Islam so he could marry i should i was at the wedding, he was never part of the Legion of Mary, because of my brothers obsessiveness with his religion i did not get to see my nephews for 6yrs until i finally contacted Marina and convinced her to come here to ireland to see her family, and know she has gone further because of him. Mick if ur reading this sorry but i will not let anyone say one thing about Marina and the lads especially a convert who calls himself Yusuf Pender who knows nothing of our family.

Posted by: John Noonan at November 17, 2007 06:20 PM

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My name is Marina and I am responding to my ex-husband’s post and my brother in-law John’s post:

Thank you for clarifying the above and verifying that most of the original post is incorrect as Michael made me look like a bad person.

I stopped Michael Noonan seeing the kids several years ago as he would never show up, I took him to court to make him see his kids and he was ordered to see them which he never stuck to and because of this I refused him access to visiting rights, which was my legal right.
However, since then I have allowed him on several occasions to make contact but he never has.
He has both of my son’s email addresses, my eldest son’s mobile number, our home address and our home telephone number but yet he has made no contact.
We lived 20 minutes apart for years but never once did he try to see his children. If someone took my kids off me I would camp outside their house just to get a glimpse and would fight till death.

He has not paid any money towards both of my son’s upkeep in 11 years. I am a single mother, with three jobs and work days and nights but yet not once has he given me any money in 11 years. No presents or even cards/letters. My eldest is going to Uni in a year to hopefully do a medical degree and I have to pay for this all by myself.
He is on low income because the Islamic community pay for his keep but he has not even applied for extra funds to support his two first born children which I know he can and then that payment should go to my children.
I am in constant contact with his family as I love them as my own, they have never done me or my children any wrong and I wish I had the money to visit them in Ireland. They are just like my parent’s and his brother’s and sister’s are my brother’s and sister’s!

Can I also add, my eldest son was once again searching for updates on his father on the Web and found this post again! – Contact your children Michael before it’s too late, not saying it’s not too late already. How sad that he has to search the Web to learn about you and look for recent pictures.

You obviously don’t want to financially support your sons, so at least pray for them!

Goodbye

Marina Ayaz

Posted by: Marina Ayaz at December 16, 2007 05:18 AM

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To Mr Yusef Pender,

You don’t know me and never will so please do not accuse me of lying – you have no right. Sadly you are mislead, lied to, lying or just a stupid fool.

PS: Humanely impossible for a day to pass without him mentioning his kids, even if you see him everyday.

PPS: Michael, please be honest and tell all if I have stopped you seeing the kids in the last 7 years at least? Then repent for lying. I have the proof.

Goodbye.

Posted by: Marina Ayaz at December 16, 2007 05:33 AM

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to all conerned, I could spend the whole day defending my self trying to proof that it was not I who stopped seeing my Son’s I have tried every thing, as far as my young brother John is concerned he is fully aware of every thing. through out this whole time I have not blamed any one and I am not going to start. If I could finance my sons I would, I was giving money every month but Marina wanted more and complaned to a goverment office, who assed my income and it was they who, informed me that according to my low income I was not at fault. I dont have my sons home address, or phone number, and once I sent a e-mail to my sons and an e-mail came back saying your sons dont have any desire to see you or contact you. I showed this to my parents who were shocked. the one time my eldest son contacted me his mother would come on the phone and try to create a problem between me and my Wife. If my sons want to come and visit me or speak to me they can do so. Salman and Osman I love both and there is not a day which I dont think about you your photos are with me all the time where I go. Salman if I could support you for your medical degree I would, but I am Proud of you and I always pray for your success in Life and also for Osman. “Truth is Truth and I am not Afraid of Truth because I walk in Truth and only He who is Truth knows the Truth” May the peace and blessing of God Almighty be with you and protect you my Sons Always.

your Dad.

ps Salman & Osman contact the Jamaat in Australia and they will help us make contact. Salman and Osman when ever you want to come and visit me on your own as Salman you are old enough to travel on your own and Osman can come with I will pay for it. or I plan to visit Australia and I promise when I come I will do every thing to see you.
Ps Yusuf Pender is a very nice and good natured young man.

Posted by: Ibrahim Noonan at January 9, 2008 10:40 AM

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this is salman, im am the son of michael noonan or ibrahim noonan.

im just responding to what was said in past commentts made about my muother. i have a high level of respect for my father and the fact that he is so loyal to his religion but i dont appreciate people sayin my mum was the ones causing problems when it was all my fathers wife. i would very much like to get in contact with you dad as i would liek to know what type of person you are.

salman.

Posted by: Marina Ayaz at June 7, 2008 03:13 PM

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This is my uncle haha, he’s my dad’s brother. I mightn’t follow a religion, but I’m open minded and spiritual, and I respect Michael for what he’s doing, and what he believes. Too many stereotypes have been given to people of Islamic faith, I know a few Muslims and they’re really nice people, haha. Just felt like I should voice that :}

Posted by: Conor Noonan at September 24, 2010 04:34 PM

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What a nice family you are. If only you would all swap phone numbers, get together from time to time, bite the bullet and move on. Surely that is better than working it out on public internet forums.

P.S. Islam is the true religion (but not that codswallop Ahmadiyyah nonsense that Mick/Ibrahim is on). The Prophet Muhammad said “The best of you is the one who’s best to his family” and “The strong person is not the one who overpowers his opponent in a fight, but the strong one is the one who controls his anger” and “Whoever humbles himself for the sake of God, God will exalt him”

Assalaam alaykum,
Peace be upon you,
Adam

Posted by: Adam Noonan at January 31, 2013 11:11 AM

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I’m Fawad Noonan ,Ibrahim Noonans son , I’d like to point out all that I have jus read is bull and to the guy above ,adam, if you were a true muslim ud follow sunnah and if u knew sunnah ud know that the Prophet Muhammed (SAW) did not degrade or insult any relgion … So ti insuly the Ahmadiyaa the True version of Islam which is a sect in Islam due to ur ignorance or lack knowladge maybe you didn’t know that .. Adam a wise man once said if u habe nothing good to say keep qutie … Salam

Posted by: Fawad at July 23, 2013 03:55 AM

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An Ahmadi couple has left Ahmadiyya and joined Islam

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Summary
Wajih Ahmad and wife Binte Tahir resident of Chak 37 District Sargodha left Ahmadiyya  and embraced Islam at the hand of Molana Muhammad Akram Toofani. Both husband and wife were born Ahmadi’s.

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Mufti Muhammad Sadiq helped change the Date of Birth of Mirza Ghulam Ahmad from 1839/40 to 1835

Intro
We all know how MGA wrote 1839 or 1840 as his DOB.  Read that entire discussion here: https://ahmadiyyafactcheckblog.com/2017/09/14/mirza-ghulam-ahmad-swears-that-he-was-nearly-60-years-old-in-1901/ and here:   https://ahmadiyyafactcheckblog.com/2017/02/10/ahmadiyya-leadership-lies-about-the-date-of-birth-of-mirza-ghulam-ahmad/

Braheen-e-Ahmadiyya Vol. 5 was written and published in the winter of 1908
This is an important fact.  In this book, MGA’s editors began changing MGA’s comments on his age.  Ahmadis use a comment from this book to prove that MGA was much older in 1905.  https://ahmadiyyafactcheckblog.com/?s=vol.+5.

—“God knows the real age but according to my knowledge, my age is near 70 years at present in the year 1323 AH. God knows best” [Zamima Baraheen-e-Ahmadiyya Vol 5 page 193].

—-“The real words about the promise in the revelation assign the age between 74 and 86″  [Zamima Baraheen-e-Ahmadiyya Vol 5 page 97 margin]

Mufti Muhammad Sadiq and his book Zikr-e-Habib
“This humble one was born in the month of Phalugna on a Friday on the 14th night of the moon” [Zikr-e-habib by Mufti Muhammad Sadiq Sahib pages 238 & 239]

Other references to Zikr-e-Habib
https://ahmadiyyafactcheckblog.com/?s=Zikr-e-Habib

See here for the Ahmadiyya argument—-https://theartofmisinformation.wordpress.com/2011/09/13/age-of-the-imam-mahdi-as/

MGA’s team lied about his age during the Dowie prophecy, they purposely made MGA look older
On 23rd of August, 1903 a leaflet was published from me against Dowie which states that I am around 70 years in age and Dowie, as he mentions, is a young man of 50.” [Tatma Haqiqatul Wahi page 71 and Majmooa-ishtaharat vol 3 page 564]

Ahmadi’s also quote Sanaullah 
Ahmadi’s have cherry picked these quotes, we need to see the full quote to properly analyze.

Maulvi Sanaullah Amritsari who was a staunch opponent of MGA writes:

“Mirza Sahib has said that his demise would be near 80 years of age and perhaps he has fulfilled all those conditions” [Ahl-e-hadith 3rd May 1907 page 3 column2]

 Maulvi Sanaullah probably wanted to prove that Ahmad (as) had reached 75 years of age and should die now according to his own prophecy. He writes in another place:

“A person who is older than 70 years of age (as is Mirza sahib himself)…” [Tafseer-e-sanai Matbooa 1899 Hashia 4 under ayat Inni mutawaffeeqa ]

Ahmadi’s also quote Batalvi

Risala Isha’at-us-sunnah vol 15, page 191 in 1893 thus:

“He’s already 63 years old..”.

 

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MGA forced Noorudin to pretend to be Hanafi, even though he was a Wahabbi aka Ahl-e-Hadith

Intro
Nooruddin and MGA were both Ahl-e-Hadith (aka Wahabbi) type of Muslims before 1889.  In fact, MGA’s nikkah was read out by the top Ahl-e-Hadith mullah in North India in 1884.  Wahabbi’s or Ahl-e-Hadith don’t follow any of the 4 schools of Sunni Islam.

You can read about Noorudin’s affiliation to the Ahl-e-Hadith here:  https://ahmadiyyafactcheckblog.com/2017/12/07/maulvi-nooruddin-was-an-ahle-a-hadith-aka-wahhabi-type-of-muslim/

https://ahmadiyyafactcheckblog.com/2018/04/19/the-ulama-of-dar-al-uloom-deoband-and-noorudin/

The data

In his book  “Siratul Mahdi”  Mirza Bashir Ahmad, son of MGA Qadiani, wrote:

“””[In the name of Allah, The Merciful. Hafiz Roshan Ali told me saying: At a time, the promised messiah (MGAQ) asked, for a religious necessity, from Maulvi Noor Uddin to announce that he is belonging to Hanafi Madhab despite he (MGAQ) was knowing that he (Noor Uddin) was belonging to Ahle Hadith. In response to him, Maulvi Noor Uddin wrote, on a paper, a verse of Persian poetry its literal meaning is: If your guide commanded you to dye your place of prayer with wine, you should do; as the guide doesn’t ignore the etiquette of love ways and its traditions. He wrote under it “Hanafi Noor Uddin”]   Siratul Mahdi, narration no. 359.”””

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IKRIMA NAJAMI, A Kababir Ahmadi from birth, a major Arab-desk employee, ANNOUNCES his apostacy from AHMADIYYA

Intro
Another Ahmadi has left Ahmadiyya.  This time its an Arab-Ahmadi. He seems to be from Kababir.  Read about the Odeh family and that whole situation herein: https://ahmadiyyafactcheckblog.com/?s=Kababir.  Be sure to read about Hani Tahir here: https://ahmadiyyafactcheckblog.com/?s=Hani+tahir

His open letter on his FB page
See here: 
https://www.facebook.com/ikrima.najami?hc_ref=ARRjBXb_Etoanrpw4-JHhdhBEVqijfCSWAWwIg7oZ8yA7tsxtIuJKhbAUeMgUGudFLY&fref=nf&hc_location=group

IN THE NAME OF ALLAH.
I declare to all of my friends, and to the world, that it is clear to me that the founder of ahmadiyya was a deliberate liar, a bad creation, and his jamaat after him continues to spread lies. It is very shocking that one reaches this conclusion, but the alternative is eternal concern. This is a betrayal of generations.

My independent research led me to the right path. It was very painful and shocking for me to know that whatever I was following with my sincere belief was lie and beyond Islamic faith and beliefs After reaching certainty in this regard, I thought it was imperative for me to convey to people my testimony and experience in this group, so that God may save the innocent respected faithful of Ahmadis, who do not know the painful truth, or are not able to face it.

I was in charge of the ahmadiyya community in a number of Arab countries, and I was in charge of the Arab area offices and many other posts in the Jamaat. I was a born Ahmadi and my grandfather was the first ahmadi of the family. He joined Jamaat 90 years ago. And ever since We made a religious commitment and came to think of the Jamaat closely, I have endeavored to apply all the teachings in full and to abide by its rules in letter and spirit, and I have been a member of the administrative body in Jamaat. When I moved to London in 2007, I worked at the ahmadiyya public center, in close coordination with khalifa. My house and office were near to his home, and office. I offered prayers in the same Masjid where Khalifa used to offer his and sometime I led the prayer in his place.

I was beginning to see that the Jamaat did not respond to what brother Hani Taher was asking. The Caliph once asked me about my opinion, and I said to him, “I didn’t see any real answers, and he said,” carry on your Search. In next stages I have to undergo phases of denial, fear, distress and extreme anxiety, then the stage where I question myself-honestly, that what would I do when I come to know that we were actually showing a fake belief to people? And how are we gonna handle our life? What about thousands of people serving in the Jamaat who know me ? And what with the parents, the relatives and the peoples of all ages? How will you justify them all? And how will their reactions be? Can they get hurt psychologically?

The intense prayers and the blessings of Allah swt led me to a conclusion where I decided to stick to the truth, no matter what it takes, I only want to please God almighty, first and last. It made me shocked and hurt when in my research in Arabic I found that the beautiful Arabic expressions used by the founder of the Jamaat in his book were the biggest lies, all his arbic texts were stolen directly from famous arabic book AL MUQAMAT UL HARIRi AND JANNAT BY ALHAMZANI. Some 1000 expression were stolen from 40 pages of Hariri (a big Arabic author and scholar), and distributed to a number of Arabic books!! Under immense stress and shock I gave Khalifa a detailed message conveying him that:-

I witness God that I never imagined being in this painful situation. My heart is filled with aches from the trauma I am living in these days. This has been reflected negatively even in health. Those were beautiful days we spent with you. How much we love to work for Islam through this Jamaat and how happy we were that we sacrificed too much for Jamaat. All because of our love for the founder and successors of this Jamaat. And how we tried to run away from the facts.

The responses to what Hani Taher was asking, were far from objectivity, lacking substance and were full of personal insults without mercy. Our people showed up like a haughty group who wanted to keep people away from critical thinking. While Hani Taher was calling for affection, peace, prudence and objectivity in research. He did not change his approach to subtraction and did not whittle into the rhetoric that some had tried to drag him into.

No learned member from Jamaat could come forward to defend its founder, as Jamaat left the job to peoples who were incompetents and unable to come up with a logical responses to deny what Hani had raised objectively. Since his questions were so serious in nature, why haven’t the answers been officially issued on behalf of the Jamaat or even on behalf of Khalifa.?�
When Hani said, ” how was the number of Jmaat followers as 4000 in 1906, and then rose to 400,000 in 1944, even though the Caliph says it is now a hundred times what it was at the time of promised messiah .” they wanted to repeat that phrase only, as if they responded. When he published hundreds of grammatical errors in the founder’s books, they did not address any of these articles except in a way that no one accepted, and Jamaat did not ask a specialist to respond, even though brother Hani demanded it. And when Hani published dozens of articles showing that the founder of Jamaat had stolen text from Hariri, their responses were contradictory, and once they said: the founder had never read any book of Al Hariri, and once they said He was only influenced by Al Hariri, and once they said ” he deliberately took the text of Al Harir so that peoples know it, but in all cases they failed to respond to a very large resemblance of texts for example: in the first 30 pages of Al Hariri, the founder took at least 500 words distributed on his Arabic books, they responded that the Founder could not come in strong terms without taking the words of Al Hariri. This eliminates the idea of his holy learning from Allah swt for 40 thousand material. One way Jamaat says Allah has directly revealed to founder on the other hand Founder was heavily depended upon Hariri in his writings.

When Hani Taher spoke about forgery in referral to Quran, Hadith, by the founder, there was no reply, even though he had mentioned more than 20 texts that the founder claimed to have brought from these sources, without having A trace on any of it.
This is the case when he spoke about faking the founder in referral to his books and declarations which does not exist.�
When Hani Taher pointed out contradictions in the book of “AIJAZUL MASEEH” from all sides, he said that he had broken the challenge, and called for a neutral commission of government, no Ahmadi had commented on it, and it had not been reversed.

Our friendship was great when we were surprised by the morals of the founder and his very many abuses, which we cannot accept that our children will hear or be proud to publish for the world. We did not feel any relief from a continuing curse in one of his books, nor in his insistence on the inevitability of marrying a married woman and spreading advertising among people, that we have a crime and a shame and no one accepts it.

There are also some texts of the founder for which we can be judged by contempt of religions, such as: The criticism of founder of the jamaat on Christianity when he said its description and beliefs are unclean!!!�
As he said about Abdullah Athem. He said, ” Christianity occupies the first place in the world in perjury, those who have not even sped away from betrayal in divine books�He described the Christian religion by saying: “revolting”.

The Founder’s prophecies were clear that they had not been achieved or even reversed, and that the community’s justification for not achieving were not true. Most of them were fake. After founder, said to be written in advertisement in October 1907 that a liar will remain alive after sincere, but we do not find any trace of such Ishtihar in Majmua Ishtiharat.

�I wish I could stay a good relationship with you and the group. But I regret to inform you that I no longer look at the founder of the community a honest in his prayers. The members of my family are in their own hands. And it wouldn’t hurt if any of them chose to stay in the Jamaat . But I don’t see a lot of people working in the Jamaat anymore. if you remove those who don’t believe in the founder. �

Sir, I’m much better at thinking, and I see you’re the only one who has the solution to this ahmadiyya case. You can work to save ahmadis, their offspring, and generations coming from this mess, and you will be able to take good care, and that is if you set up a long-term plan to turn this group into a charity or something like real peace. I am willing to work with you together to bring the group gradually to safety no matter how long.�

I know that telling people the truth at once is shocking to them and that its negative effects may be more than positive, but silence entirely will increase the problem.�If you are to solve this case from its roots, history will write you a great and unprecedented position, and you will receive the greatest rewards from God and people. I can help you with that to the end if you accept my proposal. God is behind the point. Message finished..�

I gave him the message, and he said to me, ” what did you write I said, ” I can’t talk before you read it and I hope you’ll meet with you after reading it, but it’s a big deal and I wasn’t expecting my whole life a nightmare like that. He said, ” What’s wrong with you, do you want to leave the Jamaat or�I said, please, to postpone the talk after seeing the content of the message I wrote to you in detail. He said well, give me a day or two and I’ll read it and meet again.�

40 minutes later, one of the guards came to my office troubled and said, “attending ( means Caliph ) wants you now, so I went to him, and when I walked in.. He said to me,” what I said about the founder And he said to me, and he was trembling in his words, so that his hands were so shaking, and his voice was spotty: I read all your message, and I find myself obliged to release you from your work and let you go.�

So he ended the topic instead of discussing or showing hard evidence of his practical and spiritual experiences and miracles in response to his daily claim that we didn’t see! Yeah, instead of showing me an example to say to the founder, he soon said, ” I’m gonna have to fire you from your work and get you out of Jamaat. (IKHRAJ).�

There are other important details I will mention later God willing, but I want to mention here at last this meeting I asked the Caliph: for God’s sake, what would you do if you were in my place? He replied “probably I would have done �the same what you did.”�

Since that moment, a terrible series of defamation, abuse, insults and cruelty has begun, so that every ahmadi is intimidated from just thinking about what I have thought, and from just looking at what I have looked into, and from just breathing the breezes of freedom that I will talk about these details later, God willing.�

In conclusion, I pray to God to guide the ahmadis and their people in delivering the truth to their families, children and relatives. If they do so gradually and in stages, it is important not to contribute to the spread of falsehood and lies, but to help each other in research, reading and understanding, and to demand that everything be accurate and documented, and that The responses are official, and from specialists, especially with regard to the Arabic language that has all known the low level of ạlmyrzạ.�

My heart will remain open to all ahmadis, in hope that they will not obey it, nor will they respond to any denied, or hear false rumours, and rule on something before they hear all parties
Humble self.
Ikrima Najami

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Mirza Nasir Ahmad claims that he was not in Rabwah during the train attacks of May 29th, 1974

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We have written on this topic extensively, to catch up start here: https://ahmadiyyafactcheckblog.com/2016/12/03/mirza-nasir-ahmad-mirza-tahir-ahmad-and-mirza-masroor-are-all-missing-on-may-31st-1974/

Mirza Nasir Ahmad’s explanation as given to the Samdani Commission
“””Mirza Nasir Ahmed, head of the Ahmadiyya Community, told the tribunal holding inquiry into the Rabwah Railway Station Incident during his statement that on May 29, when the incident took place he was not present in Rabwah and had gone to his lands about 12 miles away.  On his return the same day, he received reports of the incident and from the them came to believe that the Jamaat-i-Ahmadiyya had no hand in the incident.

The statement of Mirza Nasir Ahmad and that of Agha Shorish Kashmiri, chief of the Anjuman-i-Tahafuz-i-Khatmi-Nubuwwat, which were recorded in camera by the Tribunal were later, allowed to be published.

Mirza Nasir Ahmad said that the Jamaat-i-Ahmadiya’s involvement in such an incident was impossible.  He said neither Jamaat-i-Ahmadiya, nor any of its sub-organization or some group of persons attached to them could plan such an incident.  He felt that the plan of the incident might have been prepared by the united opposition parties or by a group of opportunist elements of the ruling party.

According to witness (Mirza Nasir Ahmad), the responsibility of the incident lay with the Provincial government and not the federal government.  The witness added that certain persons of Rabwah were also involved in the May 29 incident.  However, they had not done so under the directions from any party of organization.

He admitted that in his congregational address on May 31, he had said that the May 29 incident was pre-planned.  He said, he said so in view of some subsequent happenings specially the disturbances that took place at Lyallpur.

On a question from the Tribunal as to why he did not bother to get information about the incident, the witness (Mirza Nasir Ahmad) said because he did not attach much importance to it as such happenings had become common during the last three years.

According to the witness (mirza nasir Ahmad), the police had made indiscriminate arrests in connection with the Rabwah incident and even some Non-Ahmadi’s had also been arrested.  He said he could not say if some foreign power also was behind the incident.

Asked about his interview to correspondent of the Associated Press of America, the Ahmadiyya Chief said his interview had been somewhat misreported.  He said it was not true that the Pakistan Air Force planes had given a salute at the last annual convention of the Jamaat-i-Ahmadiyya at Rabwah.

Mirza Nasir Ahmed said it was not true that he wanted to purchase a Canadian radio transmitter having a range from 2500 to 3000 miles.

However, he said the Jamaat-i-Ahmadiyya intended to install a broadcasting station in Nigeria and for this purpose the Ahmadi’s all over the world had made contributions.

Agha Shorish Kashmiri, in his statement, said said that on May 29, Mr. Afzal Saeed, Private Secretary to the Prime Minister had contacted him on telephone to give a message from the Prime Minister.  In his message Mr. Bhutto had told the witness (agha shorish) that some foreign powers were out to disintegrate the country.  The Premier expressed the desire that the opposition leaders should help the Government maintain law and order situation so as to foil the evil designs of the enemies—PPI.””””

Newspaper scan, From the Pakistan Times, Aug-1st, 1974

Full newspaper
https://ahmadiyyafactcheckblog.com/2017/09/25/pakistan-times-newspaper-clippings-may-sep-1974/

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Nooruddin promoted extreme purdah!!!

Intro
Ahmadiyya practices extreme purdah.  All you have to do is go to Rabwah and look around.  However, MGA’s wife didn’t seem to obey these rules, see here: https://ahmadiyyafactcheckblog.com/2017/12/03/mirza-ghulam-ahmads-young-wife-didnt-do-parda-this-is-against-the-parda-laws-in-rabwah/

Related Essays
https://ahmadiyyafactcheckblog.com/2018/02/01/mirza-tahir-ahmad-and-mirza-masroor-ahmad-told-ahmadis-that-its-ok-to-beat-their-wives-and-to-force-hijaab/

Summary of this quotation

This is an excerpt from a book called Al Furqan by Maulana Abul Atta Jalandari who I believe was a missionary of Jamat Ahmadiyya and the father of Ataul Mujeeb Rashed (Imam of the London Mosque). Here he relates the following:

Once Maulana Nooruddin Sahab said that Afghan women’s chadar is exactly that covering which the Quran requires. You cannot see the face. And only in order to see the way is there an opening for the eyes to see. According to Maulana Nooruddin in this way men will not see the woman. For this reason he did not like ordinary burkas because the gaze remains straight and is not lowered.

Reference

https://www.alislam.org/alfurqan/1954-05.pdf

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