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NURUL-HAQQ (Part-2) quotes and background data

Intro
Nurul-Haqq was a 2-part booklet written by MGA and his team of writers in 1894.  This book is in Arabic only, however, the original also contained an Urdu translation.  This book has never been translated into english (see Hidden Treasures).  On May 18, 1894, Noor-ul-Haq Part-2 was published (see Mujadid e Azim, abridged english edition, page 507).  In Part-1, MGA and his team never even mentioned any hadith about eclipses and etc, in fact, in 15 years as a writer, MGA had never connected the famous prophecy of the Mahdi with any hadith about eclipses.  However, in 1907, in Haqiqatul Wahy, MGA claimed to have predicted the eclipses in Nurul-Haqq Part-1, pages 35-38.  This is the same book wherein MGA’s team wrote Lanaat 1000 times.

Quotes
“””(B) When I had decided to compile this book [Nurul-Haqq], I received a revelation from the Lord of lords that the disbelievers and those who have declared me a disbeliever would not have the power to compile a book like it in its arrangement of prose and its poems, and containing the insights and wisdom set forth in it. Therefore, he who desires to controvert my revelation should produce the like of what I have set forth; for the Mahdi is guided towards
matters to which no one else is guided. His opponent will not be able to get anywhere near him, even though he were to fly through the atmosphere.”””
[Nurul-Haqq, part 2, Title Page, Ruhani Khaza’in, vol. 8, p. 187](See the 2009 edition of Tadhkirah).
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“””… I behold that the people of Mecca will enter in large numbers in the party of Allah, the Powerful, the Absolute.  This is the doing of the Lord of the heavens and is strange in the eyes of the earthly people.””””[Nurul-Haqq, part 2, p. 10, Ruhani Khaza’in, vol. 8, p. 197](See the 2009 edition of Tadhkirah).
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“””The correct interpretation and the true and correct meaning [of the hadith] is that ‘the moon would be eclipsed on the first night in the month of Ramadan’ means that it will be eclipsed on the first of the three nights in which it is full, as you well-know the expression ayyam-e-bid [white days]…. Also, the meaning of his words that ‘the sun would be eclipsed on the middle [day]’ is that the solar eclipse would occur in a manner that it would split in the middle the days on which an eclipse takes place.… I have not said this on my own; rather, it is a revelation from the Lord of the worlds.””” (Nurul-Haqq, part 2, pp. 13, 15, 19, Ruhani Khaza’in, vol. 8, pp. 201, 204, 210)(See also Hidden Treasures).
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“”””Know then that Allah has breathed into my heart that the eclipses of the moon and of the sun that have occurred during Ramadan are two awe-striking Signs which have been exhibited to warn those who follow Satan and have adopted the ways of injustice and transgression… If they persist in their denial, the time of the chastisement is near.””””
[Nurul-Haqq, part 2, p. 35, Ruhani Khaza’in, vol. 8, pp. 227–228](See the 2009 edition of Tadhkirah).
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“”””My Lord revealed to me that I should perfect the divine challenge against them (the Christians) and should expose to mankind the ignorance of the disobedient ones. That is why I have compiled this booklet [Nurul-Haqq].””” [Nurul-Haqq, part 2, p. 61, Ruhani Khaza’in, vol. 8, p. 259](See the 2009 edition of Tadhkirah).
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“”””(C) It has been revealed to me by my Lord that they are all like the blind and will not be able to produce the like of it and that they are false in their claims.”””[Nurul-Haqq, part 2, p. 62, Ruhani Khaza’in, vol. 8, p. 260](See the 2009 edition of Tadhkirah).

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“””O servants of God, ponder and think. Do you consider it permissible that the Mahdi should be born in the countries of Arabia and Syria and his Sign should be manifested in our country; and you know that the wisdom of God does not separate the sign from the person for whom the sign is meant. Then how could it be possible that the Mahdi should be in the East but his sign should be in the West. And this should be sufficient for you if you are really seekers after truth.””” (Noorul Haq, Part-II)(Retrieved from https://theartofmisinformation.wordpress.com/2011/09/22/refutation-the-truth-about-the-eclipse/, on 6-25-19)(See also Review of Religions, May-June, 1999).
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“”””I desire to make it clear to the readers that my faith in Hazrat Masih, peace be on him, is a very good faith. I believe sincerely that he was a true prophet of God and was loved by Him and I believe that, as indicated by the Holy Quran, he had, as a means of his salvation, perfect faith in our lord and master, Muhammad Mustafa, peace and blessings of Allah be upon him. He was one of the sincere servants of the law of Moses. I respect him according to his station. But the Jesus who is presented by the Christians, who claimed to be God and condemned everyone else except himself, both those who had gone before and who were to come after, as accursed, as having been guilty of vices the recompense of which is a curse, is regarded by us as deprived of Divine mercy. The Holy Quran makes no reference to this impertinent and foul-mouthed Jesus. We are surprised at the conduct of one who considered that God was subject to death and himself claimed to be God and who reviled such righteous ones as were thousand times better than him. In our writings we have had this fictitious Jesus of the Christians in mind. The humble servant of God, Isa, son of Mary, who was a Prophet and is mentioned in the Holy Quran, is not the object of our harsh condemnations. We have had to adopt this method after having endured for forty years the abuse of the Holy Prophet, peace and blessing of Allah be upon him, by the Christian missionaries.”””(Nurul Quran, No.2)(See Truth about Ahmadiyyat by
B. A. Rafiq, online version, https://www.alislam.org/library/book/truth-about-ahmadiyyat/ahmadiyyat-and-the-british/, Retrieved on 6-25-19).  

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“”””I declare it with regret that we have had to issue this number of the Nurul Quran in answer to a person who, instead of adopting a civil method, has had recourse to vile abuse of our lord and master the Holy Prophet, peace and blessings of Allah be upon him, and out of his vileness he has uttered such calumnies against that Leader of the pure and Chief of the righteous, that the heart of a pious one trembles at hearing them. This reply is a refutation of the utterers of such abuse. We wish to declare that our belief concerning the Messiah, peace be upon him, is a very good belief and that we have sincere faith in that he Was a true Prophet of God and was loved by Him.”””” (NuruI Quran, No.2)(See Truth about Ahmadiyyat by
B. A. Rafiq, online version, https://www.alislam.org/library/book/truth-about-ahmadiyyat/ahmadiyyat-and-the-british/, Retrieved on 6-25-19).  

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“””Padre Fateh Masih of Fateh Garh, District Gurdaspur, has addressed a vile letter to me in which he has charged our lord and master Muhammad Mustafa, peace and blessings of Allah be upon him, with adultery and has, besides this, uttered vile abuse of him. I have, therefore, considered it necessary to reply to it and hence this booklet. I trust the Christian padres will study it carefully and will not be aggrieved at its language as the tone that has been adopted in it is in consequence of the harsh language and vile abuse employed by Mian Fateh Masih, Yet, it is necessary to uphold the holy station of the true Messiah, peace be on him. In reply to the harsh language of Fateh Masih, a fictitious Jesus has been portrayed and that also under great compulsion for this foolish one has abused the Holy Prophet peace and blessings of Allah be upon him, in a vile manner and has wounded our hearts.””” (Nurul Quran, No.2)(See Truth about Ahmadiyyat by B. A. Rafiq, online version, https://www.alislam.org/library/book/truth-about-ahmadiyyat/ahmadiyyat-and-the-british/, Retrieved on 6-25-19). 
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Links and Related Essays
https://ahmadiyyafactcheckblog.com/2019/05/28/nurul-haqq-part-1-quotes-and-background-data/

https://ahmadiyyafactcheckblog.com/2019/03/29/mirza-ghulam-ahmad-wrote-1000-curses-for-this-opponents/

http://aaiil.org/text/articles/others/truemeaningjihad.shtml

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“Eye witness account of sahibzada Abdul Latif” by Syed Ahmad Noor Kabuli (1921)

Intro
One of my “Ahmadiyya-Research-Team” friends in the UK recently found a book titled “Shaheed Marhoom Ke Chashm deed waqiat” Part 1 and 2, (Eye witness account of sahibzada Abdul Latif”). This book is written by his beloved student, Syed Ahmad Noor Kabuli, who also took Baiyat of MGA and subsequently claimed himself to be a prophet. The plain reading of book gives us an impression that Abdul Latif was not mentally sound person.  This Syed Ahmad Noor Kabuli eventually claimed prophethood and was most likely ex-communicated by the Khalifa.  Syed Ahmad Noor Kabuli admitted that he was drinking the water dripping from mirza ghulam coffin.  Apparently, as MGA’s coffin was being transported from Ahmadiyya buildings in Lahore to the train station, Ahmadi’s had put ice in MGA’s coffin to keep his body from smelling and etc.  As Ahmadi’s were escorting the coffin of MGA through the streets of Lahore, many people began throwing feces at the motorcade, it was a huge scene.  Syed Ahmad Noor Kabuli still drank the ice water that was oozing out of MGA’s coffin.  This book was published on December 26th, 1921.

Everyone in British-India wrote that MGA died of cholera
It is important to note that MGA even said that he thought he had cholera, as reported by his father-in-law, Mir Nasir Nawab.  Many newspapers and independent researchers wrote the same.  Noorudin, the new Khalifa was faced with this issue early on and told Ahmadi’s that even if MGA did die of cholera, death by cholera was considered martydom in his version of Islam.

Some additional data on Syed Abdul Latif
https://ahmadiyyafactcheckblog.com/2018/03/11/mirza-ghulam-ahmad-terrible-arabic-pronunciation-and-syed-abdul-latif/

https://ahmadiyyafactcheckblog.com/2018/03/11/syed-abdul-latif-accompanied-mga-to-jhelum-in-january-of-1903/

https://ahmadiyyafactcheckblog.com/2018/09/26/mirza-ghulam-ahmad-called-the-killing-of-maulvi-abdul-latif-as-greater-then-that-of-imam-hussain/

 

Here is the summary of this short book, written by a friend

“Abdul Latif lived in a village called Syedgah near Khost Afganistan. He was a friend of governor of the area who pays him remuneration for livelihood. Amir of Kabul has also fixed his remuneration at Rs 1100/- He had 4 wives and 18 children.

He was a negotiator on behalf of Amir e Kabul to decide borders of afghanistan with the British. When he was busy in negotiations with Britishers some one gave him a book of MGA. He was very happy to receive this book and offered reward to the doner of book. He read and liked the book and told his colleague that this is the man whom the world was waiting for. Now he has come.

At first, Molvi Abdul Latif thought Allah would select him for the job of reformer because there was none like him, but now after reading MGA’s book he come to know that god has sent the reformer. He then sent some of his students to Qadian to see the Masih e Moud as to who and how is he? Some student after visiting MGA in Qadian cast doubts on him but abdul latif said you are wrong in your doubts, this man is a true Masih. Then he sent Molvi Abdul Rehman his close friend, to MGA with gifts, dresses and Baiyat letter. Abdul Rehman stayed in Qadian and returned with MGA’s book for Mullah Abdul Latif.

After two or three months Abdul Latif sought permission from Amir e Kabul for Hajj. Amir e Kabul has been pleased to allow and gifted him many horses, camels and cash for Hajj expenditures. Instead of going to Makkah, he reached Qadian via Khost and Bannu. He stayed there for many months. He used to go on walk with Masih e Moud, and do not remove dust from his cloths till Hazrat sb (MGA) does so.

He received many ilham. Once while he was sleeping in guest room, suddenly got up and said Muhammad s.a.w. has been laid over me like a fabric sheet and has entered into me in such way that he s.a.w. can not be separated from me and then he received ilham meaning His s.a.w. body is of Noor, fragrance like pearl and this noor is under my control. (Nauzubillah).

Once while coming back from walk Molvi Abdul latif said to me (the author ANK), have you seen your father coming behind you. I said he had died long ago. He said no he was there. Once after walk he came to us and told that a Beautifully dressed HOOR from Jannah came to me and said have a look on me, I said no I would not look to you till Masih e Moud is before me. The author (ANK) claims that he had some ahmadi JIN in his possession, when he was imprisoned, these Ahmadi JINN offered him to destroy the city of Kabul for his release from Jail but he did not accept their offer.

His six months leave was over and he started preparation to leave for Kabul. When he left Qadian, hazrat sb (MGA) accompanied him about 1.5 miles. While parting, Molvi Abdul Latif fell on MGA’s feet and holding on to his feet, started crying and saying pray for me. Hazrat sb said ok I will pray for you but leave my feet first. Molvi Abdul Latif said no He would not leave the feet. Hazrat sb said this is my order and order is above the respect. Then he released the feet of Hazrat sb.

On way to Kabul few Chakralvi came to talk to him of MGA he said he is Ahmadi. But he calls himself Ghulam Ahmad the chakralvi replied. Molvi Abdul Latif said don’t call him Ghulam Ahmad because if you call him Ghulam Ahmed then he would become Syed and meaning Chief and chief is the servant of his tribe.

He said god has made the person of Muhammad Arabi s.a.w. And Ahmad Qadiani one and the same (Nauzubillah) so I swear upon god in whose hand is my soul I saw Muhammad and Ahmad in one person. (Nauzubillah) then he said he has destroyed himself so much in Masih e maoud that my person and person of Muhammad has become same and that the person of Muhammad has become inseparable from mine. (Nauzubillah).

He came back to Khost and started Tabligh of ahmadiyyat, wrote many letters to eminent peoples of area. The news reached Amir of Kabul who put up the case before Ulema. He was offered to repent which he denied and said he want it to be finished soon. So he was sentenced stoning to death. While few stones were pelted on him he was again offered to repent but he refused it again.

He was stoned in a hindoo cremation area, His dead body was recovered by the author and buried in a graveyard inside Kabul. But because of Shirk related gatherings at his grave the government removed the body remnants from there and were disposed of in a river.

The scans

Links and Related Essays
https://ahmadiyyafactcheckblog.com/2018/03/11/syed-abdul-latif-accompanied-mga-to-jhelum-in-january-of-1903/

https://ahmadiyyafactcheckblog.com/2018/03/11/mirza-ghulam-ahmad-terrible-arabic-pronunciation-and-syed-abdul-lateef/

https://ahmadiyyafactcheckblog.com/?s=Karamhttps://www.alislam.org/library/books/The-Afghan-Martyrs-by-B.A.Rafiq.pdf

https://digitalcommons.unomaha.edu/cgi/viewcontent.cgi?article=1154&context=afghanuno

https://ahmadiyyafactcheckblog.com/2019/06/13/new-data-found-on-the-death-of-mirza-ghulam-ahmad-via-cholera-from-june-1908/

https://ahmadiyyafactcheckblog.com/2017/08/20/mirza-ghulam-ahmad-died-of-cholera-new-evidence-found-in-aug-2017-the-vakil-newspaper-amritsar-dated-30th-may-1908/

https://ahmadiyyafactcheckblog.com/2016/12/03/farquhar-claims-that-mirza-ghulam-ahmad-died-of-cholera/

https://ahmadiyyafactcheckblog.com/2016/12/02/mirza-ghulam-ahmad-died-of-an-opium-overdose-1908/

https://ahmadiyyafactcheckblog.com/2018/07/15/mufti-muhammad-sadiq-helped-change-the-date-of-birth-of-mirza-ghulam-ahmad-from-1839-40-to-1835/

https://ahmadiyyafactcheckblog.com/2018/12/06/mga-was-born-in-1839-per-the-ror-of-june-1906/

https://ahmadiyyafactcheckblog.com/2017/02/10/ahmadiyya-leadership-lies-about-the-date-of-birth-of-mirza-ghulam-ahmad/

https://www.aaiil.org/text/articles/reviewofreligions/raw/reviewreligionsenglish1908.pdf

https://ahmadiyyafactcheckblog.com/2017/12/31/ahmad-the-messenger-of-the-latter-days-by-mirza-bashir-ud-din-mahmud-ahmad-1924/

Happy Birthday to You Mirza Ghulam

https://ahmadiyyafactcheckblog.com/2017/09/14/mirza-ghulam-ahmad-swears-that-he-was-nearly-60-years-old-in-1901/

https://ahmadiyyafactcheckblog.com/?s=Zikr-e-Habib

https://theartofmisinformation.wordpress.com/2011/09/13/age-of-the-imam-mahdi-as/

https://ahmadiyyafactcheckblog.wordpress.com/2016/12/03/farquhar-claims-that-mirza-ghulam-ahmad-died-of-cholera/

https://ahmadiyyafactcheckblog.wordpress.com/2017/05/27/walter-was-told-by-ahmadiyya-leadership-that-mga-died-of-intestinal-trouble-1917-1918/

https://ahmadiyyafactcheckblog.wordpress.com/2017/05/25/ahmadiyya-leadership-never-gave-a-cause-of-death-for-mirza-ghulam-ahmad/

https://ahmadiyyafactcheckblog.wordpress.com/2016/12/02/mirza-ghulam-ahmad-died-of-an-opium-overdose-1908/

https://ahmadiyyafactcheckblog.wordpress.com/2016/12/20/mirza-tahir-ahmad-authenticated-the-book-hyat-e-nasir-1927/

https://ahmadiyyafactcheckblog.com/2017/12/12/maulana-abu-kalamazad-was-the-editor-of-the-vakil-in-1908-when-mga-died/

https://ahmadiyyafactcheckblog.com/?s=cholera

https://ahmadiyyafactcheckblog.com/2018/04/16/was-maulana-abu-kalamazad-the-editor-of-the-vakil-in-1908-and-his-relationship-with-ahmadis/

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New data found on the death of Mirza Ghulam Ahmad via cholera from June 1908

Intro
From 1908 to the 1930’s, Ahmadiyya sources are totally silent on way or the cause of death of MGA.  However, ee have found sources in this time frame that claimed that MGA had died of cholera, in Urdu as Haiza.  Even Farquhar wrote the same in 1915.  This is also the word that was used by MGA’s father-in-law, Mir Nasir Nawab in the 1920’s as he narrated to Shaikh Ali Yacub Irfani his autobiography. This Khubah by Noorudin was his second Friday Sermon after becoming the Khalifa at Qadian.

Noorudin’s Friday Khutbah of 
Alhakam of 14 June 1908.
” HAZRAT MASIH MAOUD IS NOT DEAD BUT IS ALIVE”
“It was narrated in the hadeeth: “”المبطون شهيد” which means, whoever dies by diarrhea is a martyr. MGA died of diarrhea disease; regardless, whether diarrhea occurred long time ago as a sign from God or if it was a result of cholera as alleged by the enemies. Whatever it is, certainly and for sure that he (MGA) has died with diarrhea; he was a martyr according to the correct hadeeth which says who dies by diarrhea is a martyr, whatever the type of diarrhea was. God has made the enemies recognize by their own tongue that he is a martyr … The enemy says that MGA died by cholera, and if we accept the argument that the enemy is sincere in this statement, we ask them: Is it not the death by cholera martyrdom?” (حقائق الفرقان، ج1، نقلا عن الحكم،14/6/1908م، الصفحة 7-8)

Some commentary
This Khutba was delivered by  the newly crown Khalifa (Nooruddin) on 5 June 1908 (printed on 14 June). Nooruddin faced with the death of Mirza Ghulam by Haiza, which happened on 26 May of that year, AND THE DIFFICULTIES THEY FACED TO TRANSPORT HIS BODY FROM LAHORE TO QADIAN. Nooruddin was so much under pressure that he admitted that MGA died of haiza (cholera), however, he tried to sugar coat the whole episode by quoting Hadith and saying that “whoever dies of Haiza (cholera) is a martyr.

The scan

 

Links and Related Essays
https://ahmadiyyafactcheckblog.com/2017/08/20/mirza-ghulam-ahmad-died-of-cholera-new-evidence-found-in-aug-2017-the-vakil-newspaper-amritsar-dated-30th-may-1908/

https://ahmadiyyafactcheckblog.com/2016/12/03/farquhar-claims-that-mirza-ghulam-ahmad-died-of-cholera/

https://ahmadiyyafactcheckblog.com/2016/12/02/mirza-ghulam-ahmad-died-of-an-opium-overdose-1908/

https://ahmadiyyafactcheckblog.com/2018/07/15/mufti-muhammad-sadiq-helped-change-the-date-of-birth-of-mirza-ghulam-ahmad-from-1839-40-to-1835/

https://ahmadiyyafactcheckblog.com/2018/12/06/mga-was-born-in-1839-per-the-ror-of-june-1906/

https://ahmadiyyafactcheckblog.com/2017/02/10/ahmadiyya-leadership-lies-about-the-date-of-birth-of-mirza-ghulam-ahmad/

https://www.aaiil.org/text/articles/reviewofreligions/raw/reviewreligionsenglish1908.pdf

https://ahmadiyyafactcheckblog.com/2017/12/31/ahmad-the-messenger-of-the-latter-days-by-mirza-bashir-ud-din-mahmud-ahmad-1924/

Happy Birthday to You Mirza Ghulam

https://ahmadiyyafactcheckblog.com/2017/09/14/mirza-ghulam-ahmad-swears-that-he-was-nearly-60-years-old-in-1901/

https://ahmadiyyafactcheckblog.com/?s=Zikr-e-Habib

https://theartofmisinformation.wordpress.com/2011/09/13/age-of-the-imam-mahdi-as/

https://ahmadiyyafactcheckblog.wordpress.com/2016/12/03/farquhar-claims-that-mirza-ghulam-ahmad-died-of-cholera/

https://ahmadiyyafactcheckblog.wordpress.com/2017/05/27/walter-was-told-by-ahmadiyya-leadership-that-mga-died-of-intestinal-trouble-1917-1918/

https://ahmadiyyafactcheckblog.wordpress.com/2017/05/25/ahmadiyya-leadership-never-gave-a-cause-of-death-for-mirza-ghulam-ahmad/

https://ahmadiyyafactcheckblog.wordpress.com/2016/12/02/mirza-ghulam-ahmad-died-of-an-opium-overdose-1908/

https://ahmadiyyafactcheckblog.wordpress.com/2016/12/20/mirza-tahir-ahmad-authenticated-the-book-hyat-e-nasir-1927/

https://ahmadiyyafactcheckblog.com/2017/12/12/maulana-abu-kalamazad-was-the-editor-of-the-vakil-in-1908-when-mga-died/

https://ahmadiyyafactcheckblog.com/?s=cholera

https://ahmadiyyafactcheckblog.com/2018/04/16/was-maulana-abu-kalamazad-the-editor-of-the-vakil-in-1908-and-his-relationship-with-ahmadis/

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The Ahmadiyya “Waqf-e-Nau” program is pure evil

Intro
Recently we had a discussion on Waqf e Nau, here: https://www.reddit.com/r/islam_ahmadiyya/comments/byjtz0/opinion_on_waqfenau_scheme/

Many valid points were shared by ones who were supporting and opposing such a scheme.

Here, I’d like to share some points shared on an Ahmadiyya website (Based on Khalifa V’s teachings) on the Waqf e Nau scheme which I thought were very important and deserved a thread on its own.
Often Ahmadis, in favor of this scheme, defend it by saying a child is free to cancel his membership when he’s an adult. I am surprised that they don’t consider the influence indoctrination can have on a child.

Let’s just look at certain points on the website: https://whyahmadi.org/expectations-of-being-an-ahmadi/important-advice-for-waqfe-nau-children.html

To present one’s child to Allah is an extremely important event and is no ordinary thing. Sacrifices are a form of gifts and it is necessary to adore them.

This is the opening sentence of the article. “Sacrificing Children to please God” – I find it extremely cringy and feels like it is nothing but a superstitious concept. Why would God need you to give Him your children?

But what’s more concerning is the “tips” the website provides to the parents of Waqf e Nau and how damaging it is to the kids. Here are some:

The children should be taught from the first day that they are Waqf and that their life is no longer their own*.*

Children are waqfed before their birth, so it means from the birth, throughout childhood children should be taught that their life does not belong to them but to the Jama’at.

The children should be informed that they are Waqf for the sake of their faith and that their personal wishes no longer matter, but that they should do as the Jama’at requests.

What if the child wants to become an artist? An athlete? A performer? Do you really think an Ahmadi girl whose a waqf living around parents who are trying to raise her based on these teachings, could ever pursue her dreams in sports and become a national level football/soccer player?

Is it fair to sell their souls to the Jama’at even before they realize what the Jama’at is? Don’t Ahmadis realize that Children has certain rights and their parents have no right to “sacrifice” them to an institution?

Is it fair that after crushing a kid’s dreams by telling him/her that their wishes no longer matter and justifying that based on an opt-out form given to them at the age of 15? After raised within this scheme from birth do you think it is an easy choice for a kid to opt-out, without hurting the sentiments of his/her parents?

I have seen many telling the problem is family pressure and not with the scheme of the Jama’at. Isn’t it clear from these points that Jama’at want the parents to “force” their kids into this scheme?

I could only wish that no Ahmadi kid’s dreams were crushed with this scheme because their parents told them “Your wishes no longer matter. You are sacrificed to the Jama’at

Note: If the link doesn’t work. Try the archived link here: https://web.archive.org/web/20190611100012/https://whyahmadi.org/expectations-of-being-an-ahmadi/important-advice-for-waqfe-nau-children.html

https://twitter.com/ReasonOnFaith/status/1138935339580559360

Mirza Ghulam Ahmad and his prophecy about the slaughter of 2 goats (1884 to 1897)

Intro
In 1897, in MGA’s book, Anjam e Athim, MGA attributed this revelation to his prophecy about Muhammadi Begum.  However, by 1907, MGA had changed his mind and claimed it was about his Afghani followers who were executed.

1884
MGA claimed to have had this revelation:

[Arabic] Two goats will be slaughtered and there is no one on the earth who can avoid
death. That is, everyone has to submit to divine decrees and no one can escape death…

(See Braheen e Ahmadiyya Vol. 4, online english edition, and the 2009 online edition of Tadhkirah)

1897
MGA claims that half of this prophecy was completed, since it was Muhammadi Begum’s father, who had died, he resembled one of the goats, the other goat was the husband of Muhammadi Begum, Sultan Muhammad.  MGA wrote this in an arabic only book, “Anjam e Athim).

The Quote from Anjam e Athim
“Prophecy of Slaughter of two Goats it is signal towards Ahmad beg and his son in law which was published 17 years ago in braheeen ahmadiyya”

“After this it will happen that Two TWO GOATS will be Slaughtered first goat means Ahmad beg and second goat means his son in law”
Rohani Khazain Anjam-e-Atham page 341

1907
In Haqiqatul Wahy, MGA ascribed this prophecy to Maulawi Sahibzadah ‘Abdul-Latif and his auspicious disciple Sheikh ‘Abdur-Rahman.  

The scan work

Links and Related Essays
https://ahmadiyyafactcheckblog.com/2017/10/06/anjam-e-athim-1897-quotes/

https://ahmadiyyafactcheckblog.com/2018/08/25/who-is-mirza-bashir-ahmad-the-younger-brother-of-mirza-basheer-uddin-mahmud-ahmad/

https://ahmadiyyafactcheckblog.com/2019/01/22/in-1893-mirza-ghulam-ahmad-made-6-predictions-about-muhammadi-begum/

https://ahmadiyyafactcheckblog.com/2019/02/03/who-is-mirza-ahmad-baig-hoshiarpuri/

https://ahmadiyyafactcheckblog.com/2018/05/24/mirza-sultan-muhammad-and-wife-muhammadi-begum-lived-and-died-as-muslim-had-5-sons-and-two-doughters/

https://ahmadiyyafactcheckblog.com/2017/01/10/new-data-on-muhammadi-begum-found-2017/

https://ahmadiyyafactcheckblog.com/2018/12/17/who-is-mirza-ghulam-hussain/

https://www.alislam.org/library/book/barahin-e-ahmadiyya-part-v/

https://ahmadiyyafactcheckblog.com/2019/02/03/mirza-ghulam-ahmads-famous-announcement-of-20-february-1886/

https://ahmadiyyafactcheckblog.com/2019/01/22/in-1893-mirza-ghulam-ahmad-made-6-predictions-about-muhammadi-begum/

https://ahmadiyyafactcheckblog.com/2017/07/08/even-in-1907-mirza-ghulam-ahmad-was-still-lusting-for-his-niece-muhammadi-begum/

https://www.alislam.org/library/book/haqiqatul-wahi/

http://aaiil.org/text/books/mga/testimonyholyquran/proofpromisedmessiah.shtml#sst

https://ahmadiyyafactcheckblog.com/2018/12/17/who-is-mirza-ghulam-haidar/

https://ahmadiyyafactcheckblog.com/2018/12/15/who-is-mirza-ghulam-murtaza-1791-1876/

https://ahmadiyyafactcheckblog.com/2018/12/17/who-is-mirza-ghulam-hussain/

https://ahmadiyyafactcheckblog.com/2018/12/09/who-is-mirza-ghulam-muhi-ud-din-mirza-ghulam-ahmads-paternal-uncle-died-in-1866/

https://ahmadiyyafactcheckblog.com/2018/12/11/who-is-mirza-nizam-ud-din-1845-the-first-cousin-of-mirza-ghulam-ahmad/

https://ahmadiyyafactcheckblog.com/2016/11/24/mirza-imam-ud-din-the-cousin-of-mirza-ghulam-ahmad/

https://ahmadiyyafactcheckblog.com/2017/07/08/even-in-1907-mirza-ghulam-ahmad-was-still-lusting-for-his-niece-muhammadi-begum/

https://ahmadiyyafactcheckblog.com/2017/07/16/the-punjab-chiefs-by-lepel-griffin-1890-edition-doesnt-even-mention-mirza-ghulam-ahmad/

https://ahmadiyyafactcheckblog.com/?s=muhammadi

https://ahmadiyyafactcheckblog.com/2018/12/16/who-is-murad-bibi/

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nawab_ud_din_Ramdasi

https://ahmadiyyafactcheckblog.com/2019/01/22/in-1885-mirza-ghulam-ahmad-published-a-31-month-prophecy-vs-his-own-extended-family/

https://ahmadiyyafactcheckblog.com/2019/02/03/who-is-mirza-ahmad-baig-hoshiarpuri/

https://www.alislam.org/library/book/barahin-e-ahmadiyya-part-v/

https://ahmadiyyafactcheckblog.com/2019/02/03/mirza-ghulam-ahmads-famous-announcement-of-20-february-1886/

https://ahmadiyyafactcheckblog.com/2019/01/22/in-1893-mirza-ghulam-ahmad-made-6-predictions-about-muhammadi-begum/

https://ahmadiyyafactcheckblog.com/2017/07/08/even-in-1907-mirza-ghulam-ahmad-was-still-lusting-for-his-niece-muhammadi-begum/

https://www.alislam.org/library/book/haqiqatul-wahi/

http://aaiil.org/text/books/mga/testimonyholyquran/proofpromisedmessiah.shtml#sst

https://ahmadiyyafactcheckblog.com/2018/12/17/who-is-mirza-ghulam-haidar/

https://ahmadiyyafactcheckblog.com/2018/12/15/who-is-mirza-ghulam-murtaza-1791-1876/

https://ahmadiyyafactcheckblog.com/2018/12/17/who-is-mirza-ghulam-hussain/

https://ahmadiyyafactcheckblog.com/2018/12/09/who-is-mirza-ghulam-muhi-ud-din-mirza-ghulam-ahmads-paternal-uncle-died-in-1866/

https://ahmadiyyafactcheckblog.com/2018/12/11/who-is-mirza-nizam-ud-din-1845-the-first-cousin-of-mirza-ghulam-ahmad/

https://ahmadiyyafactcheckblog.com/2016/11/24/mirza-imam-ud-din-the-cousin-of-mirza-ghulam-ahmad/

https://ahmadiyyafactcheckblog.com/2017/07/08/even-in-1907-mirza-ghulam-ahmad-was-still-lusting-for-his-niece-muhammadi-begum/

https://ahmadiyyafactcheckblog.com/2017/07/16/the-punjab-chiefs-by-lepel-griffin-1890-edition-doesnt-even-mention-mirza-ghulam-ahmad/

https://ahmadiyyafactcheckblog.com/?s=muhammadi

https://ahmadiyyafactcheckblog.com/2018/12/16/who-is-murad-bibi/

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nawab_ud_din_Ramdasi

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Reason on Faith has totally come out and is exposing Ahmadiyya

Intro
Our fellow Ex-Ahmadi, @reasononfaith has totally come out and is doing many interviews these days.

The list of interviews
http://veeduvidz.libsyn.com/12-sohail-ahmed-reason-on-faith?tdest_id=1130906&fbclid=IwAR0iLyCQJtQQ5kIJ85R_WQ9HYd2RQw7UOgQ-ecUYAmEasOVJGkKe7M9AftM

Mirza Ghulam Ahmad and his Mubahila with Abdul Haq (1891–1900)

Intro
MGA seems to have had a Mubahila challenge with Abdul Haq, which started in 1891.  Ahmadiyya sources tell us that Abdul Haq Ghaznavi, a follower of Abdul Jabbar and a disciple of the famous Ahl-e-Hadith Imam Maulawi Abdullah Ghaznavi (1811–1881), began a Mubahila with MGA in 1891 over the topic of the death of Esa (As) (see Life of Ahmad by Dard, page 239).  The Muslims of India and the entire world believed that Jesus was sitting alive in the heavens in his physical body. He declared on the basis of his ‘revelations’ that MGA was an
infidel and that he would be thrown into hell because he claimed to be the like of Jesus (as). This Ishtihar was widely distributed by the followers of Abdul Jabbar, and MGA received a copy on February 9th, 1891.  So he wrote a letter to Maulawi Abdul Jabbar about the challenge, saying that he believed Abdul Haq to be a follower of his. In this letter MGA affirmed that he had claimed to be the Promised Messiah on the basis of direct revelation received from on high. He made it clear that Jesusas had died and could not come again. He admitted the possibility of the advent of other Messiahs also (see Life of Ahmad by Dard, page 239).  MGA
was prepared to enter into Mubahala if necessary though, according to his own belief, Mubahala was not necessary or permissible to settle minor differences of opinion amongst Muslims.  Anyhow, if eminent mullahs like Nadhir Husain of Delhi, Muhammad Husain of Batala and Ahmadullah of Amritsar signed a fatwa to the effect that Mubahala was permissible in such cases, then he would have no course left open but to go to Amritsar for the purpose
of the Mubahala and Abdul Haq must in that case bring with him his family and his friends, as required by the Holy Quran. This letter is dated February 11th, 1891, and was published in a supplement to the Riayd-e-Hind, Amritsar, dated March 15th, 1891, pages 1-4 (see Life of Ahmad by Dard, page 239–242).  In response to this Abdul Haq issued another Ishtihar: If Mubahala was not permissible amongst Muslims, why had MGA asked Maulawi Muhammad Ismael through the pages of his book, Fath-e-Islam, to hold a Mubahala with him?

27 May, 1893 in Amritsar
MGA agreed to have a Mubahila prayer in Amritsar.

1897
In Anjam-E-Athim, MGA writes: 

About Abdul Haq’s wife: 

“Ab Abdul Haq ko zaroor poochna chahiey ke uss ka wo mubahla ki barkat ka larka (boy) kahan gaya, kia andar hi andar pait me tahleel (disappear) pa gia ya phir rajaat qahqari(again) ker ke nutfa bun gia” (Roohani Khazain Volume 11, Page 311).  English translation is as follows, “Now ask Abdul Haq certainly about that Mubahila he had with me, where are the blessings of a boy, where did it go? Did he disappear ……”

“aur ab tak iss ( Abdul Haq ) ki aurat ke pait sei aik chooha bhi paida na hoa” (Roohani Khazain Volume 11, Page 311).  English translation is as follows, And until now, his wife hasn’t even given birth to a mouse.

1902
MGA writes Tuhfa’-e-Ghaznaviyya. It was printed (700 copies) at the Diya’ul Islam Press and
published in October 1902.

1907
MGA mentions Abdul Haq.

Links and Related Essays
https://ahmadiyyafactcheckblog.com/2017/11/28/mubahila-with-molvi-abdul-haq-ghaznavi-and-its-impact-on-mirza-qadiyani/

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Abdullah_Ghaznavi

Compilation of Ahmadiyya views on Homosexuality

Intro
In this post, I’d like to compile all the things Ahmadiyya leaders, their official websites & other publications have told about homosexuality, whether positive or negative.

First of all, I’d like to share this presentation, which u/BarbesRouchechouart found on Lajna (Women’s Wing of Ahmadiyya) USA’s official website.  Here’s the link: http://www.lajnausa.net/web/webfiles/Tabligh/Islam%20&%20homosexuality.pdf

Some Quotations from the Presentation

Yeah, “homosexuals & sexual predators”

“”””Adolescence is a time of experimentation and self-discovery. A young teen who is vulnerable and not guided and protected can be easily influenced by homosexuals and sexual predators*. Though this is a phase, some never leave this adolescent experience.”””

Transgenders have a “demon” inside them.

“””Here are a rare number of people who may be an exception and have a predisposition to behave like the opposite gender. Khalifa IV describes this person has having a “demon” inside and a personal dilemma which must be battled and suppressed.”””

Recommends against giving rights and recognition given to homosexuals. Don’t want homosexual people to come out and have a life of authenticity.

“””this is demonstrated by the fact that, as more recognition and rights are given, the number of gay people around the world has grown enormously.”””

Terrible excuses for the legalization of same-sex marriages by Imam Azhar Haneef, Faith Matters (MTA program)

– All the scriptures prescribe marriage only between a man and a woman.
– Marriage/nikah has to be entered with taqwa (fear/consciousness of God); is not compatible with homosexuality
– Marriage without God’s approval cannot have His favor and blessings -the couple cannot follow the model of the

– Prophet (saw) -the couple is choosing each other over God; cannot succeed

-does not meet one of the main purposes of marriage which is procreation

Tip for LGBTQ

“”””they should pray for a change within themselves rather than entering this relationship which is not permitted.”””

Why Homosexuality is dangerous?

“”””Homosexual behavior is detrimental to societies and nations and can lead to their destruction.”””

Recommends against being friends with homosexuals.

Two issues with gay friends: 1. UnIslamic influence: many gays are outspoken about their sexual lifestyle. Even though you are not part of that lifestyle, they are sharing their experiences and beliefs with you as a friend. This makes it harder for you to uphold Islamic beliefs about your friend’s orientation.

“O ye who believe, be mindful of your duty to Allah and keep company with the righteous”(9.119). “O ye who believe! Take not others than your own people as intimate friends; they will not fail to corrupt you…We have made clear to you Our commandments, if you will understand.” (3:119)

NOTE: I’d like to point out that in a Q&A session Mirza Masroor Ahmad, Current Khalifa of Ahmadiyya, said there’s nothing wrong with being friends with a gay person as long as that behavior of the said person does not influence the Ahmadi friend.

The 4th Khalifa said this in “Islam’s response to contemporary Issues”;

P97 – “When there is no God-made law to be accepted, and absolute ethical values and noble traditions are challenged and defied daily, any legislation to discipline moral behaviour also becomes lax and more accommodating. The very platform, on which laws pertaining to moral behaviour are founded, begins to slip away. A comparative study of legislation in this area over the last few centuries would effectively prove the case in point. Gone are the days of Oscar Wilde when homosexuality was considered a crime by society, which would most mercilessly punish it. Gone are the days of chastity not being just a virtue but a social trust which, if violated, would be brought to account. This softening on crime is no longer seen as alarming.”

“”””While addressing the point that there may be some evidence that homosexuality is a genetically determined behaviour, Hazrat Khalifatul Masih Vaba said that even if this was the case, it still does not warrant the intense propaganda to legalise and promote homosexuality*. It is possible that in any community, a tiny minority may have such inclinations; according to an estimate the law of same-sex marriage was brought about in Canada for just 500 cases!* It is wiser to manage homosexuality by keeping such practices concealed. The underlying principle here is that of protection of the vulnerable members of the society. His Holiness expressed concern that in this day and age homosexuality is being promoted as fashion.

His Holiness advised that if Ahmadis should find themselves faced with such temptations, they should offer Istighfar(prayer offered to seek Allah’s forgiveness), remove themselves away from any situations that may trigger these desires*; then gradually they will be able to overcome these temptations. In response to a question, Hazrat Khalifatul Masih Vaba explained that homosexuality is a learned behaviour and stressed that the practice of homosexuality is inappropriate.* His Holiness warned that by accepting, promoting and legalising such actions, nations can find themselves on the path to destruction. The wrath of God destroyed one nation which insisted on this behaviour despite repeated warnings. His Holiness stressed that homosexual tendencies cannot be called a disease. Such behaviour is the product of  the environment; people are attracted to same-sex relationships because of their social interactions. When exposed to a certain kind of environment, the psychology of certain individuals can be affected and they become drawn to homosexual behaviour.  His Holiness warned that turning this individual behaviour into a national characteristic leads to destruction.””””

https://www.reviewofreligions.org/10094/a-journey-of-spiritual-guidance-khalifah-of-the-promised-messiahasvisits-germany/

Now some quotes by Mirza Masroor Ahmad:

Mirza Masroor Ahmad, has said that Homosexuality is not a disease but a behavior which is the product of the environment a person lives in.

I am sure there are more quotable remarks made by Mirza Masroor Ahmad. Also, I am fairly certain previous Khalifas, Ahmadiyya Sadrs, Amirs and other official heads and perhaps even Masih Moud (Mirza Ghulam Ahmad) have written or said things about Homosexuality. I recommend others to post such material they know of so that this thread could be a go-to resource for anyone who wants to explore the things Jama’at have said or wrote of the whole LGBTQ issue.

Links and Related Essays

https://www.alislam.org/library/books/IslamsResponseToContemporaryIssues.pdf

https://ahmadiyyafactcheckblog.com/2018/08/12/ahmadiyya-policy-on-homosexuality/

https://ahmadiyyafactcheckblog.com/2019/02/11/why-do-ahmadis-think-that-eating-swine-causes-homosexuality/

https://www.alislam.org/library/books/Philosophy-of-Teachings-of-Islam.pdf

https://ahmadiyyafactcheckblog.com/2019/02/10/what-is-the-talim-ul-islam-high-school-college-at-qadian-and-later-at-rabwah/

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Mirza Ghulam Ahmad supported polygamy as a way of expanding the Ahmadiyya Movement

Intro
Mirza Ghulam Ahmad came from the Wahabis of India aka “the Ahl-e-Hadith” sect of Islam.  Thus, MGA retained many of the backwards values in terms of women and child marriage and many others.  As we all know, in 1889, Noorudin took on a second wife, MGA was already with his second wife and was seeking a third (Muhammadi Begum).  We have found a reference from the current Khalifa to add to this story.  See in the below.  Mirza Masroor Ahmad relates a story from the 2nd Khalifa about Noorudin and MGA.

The quote
“”””Hazrat Musleh Maud (may Allah be pleased with him) writes that once the Promised Messiah (on whom be peace) said to Hazrat Mualana Nur ud Din that one way of expanding our community was to have many children and for this purpose more than one marriage should be undertaken. Hazrat Mualana Nur ud Din most humbly said he was ready to obey the instruction but who would wed their daughter to him at his age. This made the Promised Messiah (on whom be peace) laugh.””””   (Friday Sermon by Mirza Masroor Ahmad, Nov. 13th, 2019).  

Links and Related Essays
https://www.reddit.com/r/islam_ahmadiyya/comments/bxqsls/mirza_ghulam_ahmad_recommends_polygamy_as_a_way/

https://www.alislam.org/friday-sermon/2015-11-13.html

https://ahmadiyyafactcheckblog.com/2019/02/16/who-is-muhammadi-begum-1875-1965/

https://ahmadiyyafactcheckblog.com/2017/12/07/maulvi-nooruddin-was-an-ahle-a-hadith-aka-wahhabi-type-of-muslim/

https://ahmadiyyafactcheckblog.com/?s=child+marriage

The Noble Wives of the Holy Prophet (sa)

https://ahmadiyyafactcheckblog.com/?s=aisha

https://ahmadiyyafactcheckblog.com/2018/09/30/mirza-ghulam-ahmad-on-aisha-ra-and-child-marriage/

https://ahmadiyyafactcheckblog.com/2018/01/04/mirza-basheer-uddin-mahmud-ahmad-the-ahmadi-khalifa-claims-that-child-marriage-is-ok-in-the-21st-century-and-aisha-was-12/

https://ahmadiyyafactcheckblog.com/2017/01/03/ahmadis-lie-about-the-aisha-hadith-in-terms-of-the-end-of-prophets/

https://ahmadiyyafactcheckblog.com/2018/09/30/arya-dharam-or-the-arya-religion-1895-by-mirza-ghulam-ahmad/

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