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Ahmadiyya mosque vandalized in Sialkot, May–2018, but it’s all Ahmadi’s fault, since they were trying to build a museum to Mirza Ghulam Ahmad

Intro
The Ahmadiyya Movement is not persecuted in Pakistan at all, its all a lie for asylum.  The Mirza family want’s Ahmadi’s out of Pakistan so that they give more money to the Mirza family and then Mirza Masroor Ahmad can spend it on growing his family fortune, i.e. through the purchase of land all around the world.  In today’s case of fake Ahmadiyya persecution, we have read reports of how an official Ahmadiyya building was demolished by the Sialkot city authorities, since it was being constructed without the proper approval.  This house was owned by the father Mir Hamid Sialkoti.  Further, Maulvi Abdul Karim was born on the same street.

A museum dedicated to Mirza Ghulam Ahmad?
A few months/years ago, the Ahmadiyya jamaat bought the house where MGA used to stay from 1864–1868.  They bought it with the intention to turn it into a sort of mural/museum dedicated to MGA.  If our readers remember correctly, MGA was forced into an exile by his father in 1864, this was because MGA was sent to pickup his family’s yearly pension money, MGA went with his big brother/cousin, Imam ud Din.  They both never returned home, they were on the run for most likely a year, until finally the money ran out.  MGA must have sent a letter home asking if he could return, however, his father banished him from Qadian, and specifically told MGA that he would never see his mother again, and would have to work in Sialkot, for a small wage.  Thus, MGA moved to Sialkot and lived there for 4 years, he never saw his children or his family, finally, MGA’s mother died and he was called back to Qadian.

Muslims of Pakistan explain the situation

If Ahmadi’s are facing genocide, why were they able to buy this property? 
Ahmadi’s are working hard to be declared as under genocide, they are doing this to get more Ahmadi’s out of pakistan and into the west so that the mirza family can reap the benefit of chanda money.

Other Ahmadi mosque related issues in Pakistan
https://ahmadiyyafactcheckblog.com/?s=Chakwal

Remember…in this disturbance, an ahmadi security guard murdered a Muslim

Rabwah is trouble free
It should be noted…Rabwah is free from all of these types of incidents,

The real news report of what really happened
“””Gali Hassamuddin in Sialkot is a place where Mirza Qadiani had stayed in a rented house during his exile after he stole pension Money of his father and he remained a low grade Court clerk.

For many years Qadianis were planning to build a Mirza Ghulam Qadiani Museum here. They have purchased this house with one adjacent to it on the pattern of Allama Iqbal Museum which is very near from here. Majority of population in this place are sunny muslims on their protest the work was stopped. At distance from here there is a Qadiani temple known as Baituzzikar which was closed for many years.

Few days back Qadiani’s again started the construction work which sent a wave of anger among muslim of area. So they approached Local administration which allowed demolish of the building.””””

Why was the mosque vandalized?
Here at this blog, we don’t promote any violence against anyone, nor do we promote vandals.  However, we know how things work in 3rd world countries, which is the majority of the planet.  In this case, the Muslims of Sialkot were aggravated because of the illegal building, and took it tooo far and vandalized an Ahmadi place of worship.

The scans

Some additional pics

Some newspaper/other reports
https://www.dawn.com/news/1409714

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Ahmadi mission in Israel, as written in the Pakistan Times on June 18th, 1974

Intro
We wanted to share another article from the Pakistan Times which was published during the Samdani Commission and other investigations in Rabwah.

Some facts
1. Mr. Abdul Sami seems to be in the dark in terms of the Ahmadi mission in Israel.  Most Ahmadi’s play dumb and stupid however. The truth is, Israel would never give Ahmadi’s a visa from Pakistan.  Because of this, Ahmadiyya leadership always sent an Ahmadi mullah from India to their mission in Israel, and that Ahmadi-mullah would be in-charge of that mission.  Further, an Arab was local jamaat president, however, he has less power then the Ahmadi-mullah.

Ahmadi Mission in Israel

“”An Ahmadi mission in functioning in Israel, stated Mr. Abdul Sami, station master of Rabwah Railway Station, during his cross examination on Monday before the Tribunal comprising Mr. Justice K.M.A. Samdani of the Lahore High Court inquiring into the Rabwah incident.

He, however, submitted he did not know if the instructions to the Ahmadia mission in Israel were issued from Rabwah.

Later, when a counsel for the Ahmadia community asked him questions about the mission in Israel, the witness clarified that mission was headed by a local Arab and that it had been functioning there since the time when Israel had not emerged as a state.

Earlier replying to a question, he said 10-12 missions were sent abroad every year by the Ahmadia community.

In reply to cross-examination, Mirza Sami stated that it was true that free copies of the “Daily Alfazal”, an official organ of the Ahmadia community used to be distributed among non-Ahmadi passengers in trains during their stoppage at the Rabwah railway station.  The distribution of the newspaper in vogue from October , 1973, had been discontinued for the past 3 or 4 months because some of the Non-Ahmadis had resented it.

Replying to questions by C.M. Latif Rawnm, the witness conceded that the general body of Muslims did not hold a good opinion about the Ahmadis because of their faith.  Asked about the people’s reaction to distribution of literature on Ahmadiat, among the non-Ahmadis, the witness said: “Some people accept the gift without resentment, but some resent it”.  

 

MIRZA SULTAN MUHAMMAD AND WIFE MUHAMMADI BEGUM LIVED AND DIED AS MUSLIM. HAD 5 SONS AND TWO DOUGHTERS.

Intro
We have written how the Qadiani-Ahmadi have in their desperation chased and tried to bribe the family of Muhammadi Begum, even after MGA died.  We wrote about how the Qadiani’s faked paperwork and misquoted many people.  Today, we present additional reports from that the 1950–70’s era on this topic, as well as scans.

Summary of these scans

Molana Manzoor. Ahmad Chinioti (1931-2004), was a religious scholar and has been a member parliament in Punjab Assembly. He has great services in the field of religious studies and Khatme Nabuwwat. He is the author of many books on the subject of Khatme Nabuwwat. He had a meeting with Muhammadi Begum, the sign of failed prophesy of Mirza Qadiani. It may be recalled here that Mirza Qadiani had prophesied that Muhammadi Begum would come to his Nikah virgin or divorced.

He wrote about this in the book Paigham Hidyat which has been summarised as under:-
“In June 1965, I along-with Molana Abdullah Ludhianvi Khateeb Jamia Masjid Ghalla Mandi Toba Tek Singh, went to Chak Shahzadian wala District Burewala, to see Muhammadi Begum, who was residing at that place with her eldest son Mirza Ishaq.

The husband of Muhammadi Begum, Mirza Sultan Muhammad migrated to this place from Patti India after partition in 1947. He was allotted 4 Murabba Land (100Acres) by the government. This land was managed by Mirza Ishaq.

It was known that Mirza Ishaq, the son of Muhammadi Begum had converted to Qadianiat due to the enticement of wealth and marriage with Qadiani Girl by the Qadianis, in 1930. The imam of local Masjid and residents of village told that Muhammadi Begum hated her son Mirza Ishaq for getting converted to Qadianiat and never ate food cooked by his wife as long as she was healthy enough to do cooking herself.

Since Muhammaadi Begum was at the last phase of her life at that time, Someone told that Qadianis are planning to take Muhammadi Begum to Rabwah and bury her after death to tell the world that Muhammadi Begum was converted to Ahmadiyya to fulfil the prophesy of Mirza Qadiani.

The Local Masjid Imam accompanied us to the house of Mirza Ishaq. We got seated in the DERA a place outside the house for guests. While we were having an introductory chat with the peoples in Dera, Mirza Ishaq, a tall sturdy man holding a DAANG, (long round baton) and a large utensil on the head, has arrived. He had a loud and heavy voice, after salutation he said Molvi What is it that you are here for ?

I said I wanted to know the address of your brother Asif Sultan. But why do u want to see him, if u need some information from him that U can have better from me. I said you are right, in fact I am here to have some information. Then he start speaking he said he became Ahmadi in 1930 and both his father and mother are non ahmadis.

Referring to the failed prophesy of Mirza upon his mother, father and maternal grand father, I asked him as to why he became Ahmadi, when the living evidence of lies of Mirza Qadiani is present at your home, to which he could not reply convincingly. However, he said it is like Pheri walla ( a mobile shopkeeper in the village), comes to sell his goods and raises his voice whomsoever like to purchase goods of his choice does so. Similarly Mirza sahib Qadiani came he raised a voice that he was Mujaddid Masih and Mahdi of 14th century , this voice appealed to him and he accepted it. Then Mirza Ishaq said ok make me a muslim if you can. Then the talk continued on the claims of Mirza Qadiani in a friendly manners like Mirza writing the months of Safar as the fourth month and Mirza,s claim that his son talked to him in the womb of mother.

Then I enquired him of the health of his mother , he said she has grown older, uses power glasses and listens to louder voice. Few days ago she had a fall injuring her face. Finding him a little softened, I said Mirza Sahib your mother is like my mother and I want to make Ziarah of her and to meet her personally.

He immediately declined to this request saying he has not even allowed an Ahmadi to see her. However, my constant flattery and requests made him change the decision and he said let me get the other ladies of house take aside. After a while he called us inside.

We entered the house to find Muhammadi Begum sitting on a large Palang (a desi bed). We sat on cain wood seats placed around. Respected lady would be at her 90s. Wrinkled face, with spectacle of thick powered glasses a wound mark on a side of face was visible. She had a graceful personality. Her son Mirza Ishaq coming close to her ear said “BAY BAY AEH GHAIR AHMADI MOLVI TUHADI ZIARAT WASTE AYE NE meaning mom these Non Ahmadi Molvis have come to see you. She got happy to listen to this and asked “GHAIR AHMADI NE” R they non Ahmadis ? He replied yes non Ahmadis, She smiled and said ok. I had certain questions to ask from her which could not be asked for many reasons. After sometime we requested her to pray for us which was communicated by Mirza Ishaq to her. She raised her arm to place her hand on our heads and prayed for us. Subsequently, we sought permission to depart Mirza Ishaq Again took his mouth near her ear and said BAY BAY ayh ijazat mang de ne. After few moments She replied IJAZAT HAI. We, then said salam and left the house. “

After that Molana wrote to her four sons in Lahore, requesting them not to allow Qadianis to take their mother to Rabwah. Molana received a reply from her son in law Said Muhammad Baig from Khanqah Dogran one letter from four Muslim sons of Muhammadi Begum duly signed by all four. which are as under:-

Letter from Said Muhammad Baig son in law of MB.

Mohtaram Janab Principal Sahib. Assalamo alaikum.

Your letter addressed to Akhtar Sultan reached to my son who was proceeding on leave to village. Since I have read your letter, it is my duty to reply to you to clarify the situation. This humble self states on oath that he is the son in law of late Sultan Muhammad and Muhammadi Begum and is a close relative to them. They have two daughters out of which one has been married to me. The other one was married to the nephew of Mirza Sultan Muhammad. Both Muhammadi Begum and Mirza Sultan Muhammad belonged to Ahlussannah wal jamaat. Mirzai party did their best to get Mirza Sultan sahib and Muhammadi Begum Sahibah to get to their side but could not succeed. Please do visit us my village Khanqah Dogran sharif lies on Sargodha Lahore road. My mother in law is seriously ill nowadays.Her four sons are in govt service at Lahore. One Mirza Ishaq has accepted Mirzaiyyat due to greed and he is also married in a mirzai family. Rest four namely Muhammad Asif Baig, Muhammad Ashraf Baig,Akbar Baig, and Akhtar Sultan are muslims of Ahlussannah waljamaat. They are in Govt service and reside in Choburji Quarter No.11A. You can meet them at 3 o clock at evening.
Wel wisher
Said Muhammad Baig.

Letter from four sons of MB.

Respected Manzoor Ahmad Chinioti Sahib.
Assalamo alaikum.
Your misaddressed letter finally reached to us. We would like to confirm here on oath that our mother Mohtarma Muhammadi Begum Sahiba is a muslim by the grace of Allah and believes in his holy prophet Muhammad Sallallaho Alaihe wasallam to be the last of the prophets. She is steadfast on the Muhammadan religion and will continue to believe so for ever inshaAllah. She belongs to the ahlussunnah waljamaat school of thought. She has nothing to do with Mirzaiyyat. We pray that Allah swt keep her on this right path. Please join us in our prayers. WASSALAM.
Muhammad Asif Baig, Muhammad Ashraf Baig,Akbar Baig, Akhtar Sultan.
Note. This letter is in response to your letter and may not be published without permission, we are retaining a copy with us.

Subsequently Molana Mazoor Ahmad sahib met with Akhtar Sultan who was a Section Officer and lived at Govt Quarters Chowburji, Lahore.

Muhammadi Begum died on 19 November, 1966, at Lahore, her funeral prayer was led by Molana Shahabuddin of Chowburji who was a disciple of Shaikhul Hind Molana Mahmoodul Hasan. She was buried in Qabrustan Miyani Sahib Lahore.

The scans





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An ahmadi, Amir Aziz and Eric Lounsbery debate, Ahmadiyya vs. Christianity

Intro
This is an interesting debate.

The video

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Mirza Ghulam Ahmad accused Maryam of meeting with Joseph before her marriage with him

Intro
MGA insulted many holy people in Islam, Christianity and Judaism, he stole hindu arguments and passed them off as his own.  We thought we had covered it thoroughly, however, everyday we find new data.  Recently, we found a reference from MGA’s book “Ayyamus-Sulah”, in english as “The Age of Peace”, it was published in 1898, in Urdu (see Hidden treasures, page 239).  This book dealt mostly with the issues of the plague, which was running rampant in India in those days, however, MGA also insulted Maryam, the mother of Esa (as).

The original scan and translation from roohani khazyian 14 -page 300 (ayam alsulah)

Some quotes from Ayyamus-Sulah
1—-“””It is through the prayer that one should seek the path of tadbir. Therefore, the Prayer and tadbir are two facets of the human endeavour and intellect. It is therefore necessary that man should seek the path of tadbir through prayer.””” (Ayyamus-Sulah, p. 3, Ruhani
Khaza’in vol. 14, p. 231)

2—-“””…I saw in a dream that God’s angels were planting black trees in different parts of the Punjab. Those trees were very ugly, black in colour, terrifying and of small size. I asked some of those who were planting them: What kind of trees are these? They answered: These are trees of the plague which is about to spread in the country. It remained unclear to me whether it was said that the plague would spread during the coming winter or the winter after, but it was a terrible sight which I saw.””” (Ayyamus-Sulah, p. 121, Ruhani Khaza’in, vol. 4, p. 361)

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Mirza Bashir Ahmad va. Muhammad Ali (1940-41) on the topic of Funeral prayers for non-Ahmadi Muslims

Intro
The Lahori-Ahmadi’s had a long running rivalry with their Qadiani-Ahmadi’s.  You can read lots of it on the internet.  However, today, we bring you an incident from 1940-1941 wherein the topic of funeral prayers for non-Ahmadi’s-Muslims was discussed between the 2 factions.

1941
Muhammad Ali writes, Qadianio ko Saalis Bun-nay kee Daawut”.  Muhammad Ali challenged any Qadiani-Ahmadi on this issue addressed to Qadiani Jamaat members. He asked if any single one of them could testify that:

“””‘In the time of the Promised Messiah and the time of Hazrat Maulana Nur-ud-Din, that is before 1914, saying funeral prayers for non-Ahmadis was considered to be prohibited as it is now, and no Ahmadi community ever held the funeral prayers of a non-Ahmadi.’”””

Mirza Bashir Ahmad responded

A few months later in 1941, Mirza Bashir Ahmad wrote a book in reply which was more than 200 pages long, entitled Mas`ala Janaza ki Haqiqat. The standpoint in this book was that when the Promised Messiah wrote that janaza prayers of non-Ahmadis were allowed, he put such conditions on it that such a non-Ahmadi would in effect have to be an Ahmadi!

Mirza Bashir Ahmad wrote about these conciliatory statements of the Promised Messiah that: “The Promised Messiah gave people a bitter pill to swallow which he coated with sugar, but Hazrat Khalifat-ul-Masih 2 has given them the pill directly without sugar coating.”

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“Ahmadiyya, beliefs and experiences” (2000) by Hassan Bin Mahmood Odeh–An Ex-Ahmadi from Kababir, Haifa, Israel

Intro
We have written extensively about Ahmadiyya in Kababir, Haifa, Israel.  We wanted to add one more piece research information to our blog.  We have found and posted a book by Hassan Bin Mahmood Odeh, who is an ex-Ahmadi from Kababir, Haifa, Israel.  He is from the famous Odeh family.  Under Mirza Tahir Ahmad, he worked as the “Director-General” of the Arabic section of the Ahmadiyya Movement.  He had also lived in Qadian and had learned Urdu and thus was able to read directly from the books of MGA.

The PDF
Hassan Odeh Book

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The Review of Religions (ROR) of November 1931, Front page and pages 290-291

Intro
As we continue our work on Ahmadiyya in Kababir, we have collected an article from November of 1931 which gives us additional evidence.  It seems that Mirza Basheer-uddin Mahmud Ahmad had sent Jalal-ud-din Shams in roughly 1925 and had him return in 1931.  The Khalifa replaced him with another Ahmadi-Mullah, Maulvi Abul-Ata Allah Ditta, who was a new graduate of the Mullah-training-school in Qadian.

Summary
This report has lots of info on Islam in Palestine, Egypt and Syria, which were all property of the British Government.  It also tells us that before Jalal-uddin Shams, there was another Ahmadi-Mullah sent to Damascus.  His name was Syed Zainul-Abideen Wali-ullah Shah.  This person has never been mentioned before in the annals of Ahmadiyya literature.  Moreover, the British government forced Jalal-uddin Shams to leave the Damascus area and they seem to have directed him towards Kababir, wherein there was a family of Muslims living in a village.  Finally, a report of the operations of Ahmadiyya in Bengal is also given.

The PDF
The Review of Religions (ROR) of November 1931, Front page and pages 290-291

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The Review of Religions (ROR) of January 1932, pages 30-34+images

Intro
My team and I continue to collect archival material on the Ahmadiyya Movement.  In this instance, we have found the ROR of 1923 and some specific pages.  This article in the ROR specifically tells us about Ahmadiyya operations in Syria, Egypt and Damascus.  To read additionally about this topic, read here: https://ahmadiyyafactcheckblog.com/2018/05/10/kababir-an-ahmadiyya-community-in-israel-by-ray-register-1970-hartford-seminary-foundation-thesis-dissertation/

Jalal-uddin Shams mentions hows Jews are taking over Palestine
Firstly, the British Government was administering these lands and was allowing Jews to move in and buy land.  The same British Government had helped Ahmadi’s in Israel and most likely led them to Kababir.

Cement of Superior quality?  From Kababir? 
Jalal-uddin Shams mentions how there was a huge family business in Kababir in cement work.  This seems to have been a multi-million dollar enterprise (by today’s standards).  Register mentions this fact also, it seems that the family that owned this business was totally converted to Ahmadiyya before Shams left.  However, Shams tells us that some Jewish people had bought and taken over this business.  We are not sure of the implications of this quite yet.

The PDF
The Review of Religions (ROR) of January 1932, pages 30-34+imag

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