Noorudin was the main ghost writer for MGA. He even moved into MGA’s house around 1893, Nooruddin and his young wife(they married in 1889), they didn’t seem to have kids until 1898 or so. Which is very odd for a new couple. There were 5 children in total for Noorudin and Sughra Begum. The surviving sons of Noorudin were ex-communicated by Mirza Basheer uddin Mahmud Ahmad in 1956. Noorudin’s daughter from this marriage was married to the new Khalifa on May 31st, 1914, her name was Amtul Hai (1900-1924), she was barely 14 when she was forcibly bequeathed to the Khalifa, Mirza Basheer uddin Mahmud Ahmad, however, she didn’t have many options, and her father didn’t leave anything behind for this set of children. In these days, Ahmadiyya leaders officially supported child marriage. Per Ahmadiyya sources, she died on Dec-10th, 1924 (see ROR of Dec-1924). She was buried in Bahishti Maqbara, seemingly at the feet of MGA, she was barely 24 years old.
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Ahmadiyya INC is always lying about what MGA wrote and etc, in this specific case, we have across a book that published posthumously by Ahmadiyya leadership. They write that it was published in 1922 and claim that it was written in 1906 (see page 387-389). They claim that MGA began writing this book on March 15th, of 1906. In this book, MGA highlights earthquakes and warns the world about some impending day of judgement-type of earthquakes. Although recent Ahmadi sources tell us that MGA wrote this book in 1906, some earlier sources like Hasanat Ali’s, “Noorudin”, see page 101, tell us that portions of this book were also written in 1898, since MGA predicted the birth of Nooruddin’s son with spots all over his body.
“””I shall show you the flash of this Sign five times.”””
[Tajalliyyat-e-Ilahiyyah, p. 1, Ruhani Khaza’in, vol. 20, p. 395]
“””God says He would come secretly like thieves, that is to say, no astrologer or claimant of revelation or dreamer of dreams will be given any intimation of His coming except that much which He has revealed to His Promised Messiah or that which He might add to it later. After these Signs, a change will occur in the world, and the hearts of many will be drawn to God. Many noble souls will move away from the love of the world. The intervening obstructions of
heedlessness will be removed and they would be given to drink of the fountain of true Islam.”””
[Tajalliyyat-e-Ilahiyyah, pp. 2–3, Ruhani Khaza’in, vol. 20, p. 396]
“”In a light slumber, I was shown a paper by God Almighty, on which was written:
meaning that these Signs will prove the truth of the Holy Qur’an.””
[Tajalliyyat-e-Ilahiyyah, p. 2 footnote, Ruhani Khaza’in, vol. 20, p. 396 footnote]
“””[Persian] When the reign of the Messiah, the monarch begins, the Muslims who were
Muslims in name only will be reconverted to Islam.
In this revelation, by the reign of the just monarch is meant the period of the call of this humble one. No worldly kingdom is indicated here, but the kingdom of heaven that has been bestowed upon me. In summary, the meaning of this revelation is that when the kingdom of heaven, which in the estimation of Allah is the period of the Promised Messiah, began towards the end of the sixth millennium, as had been prophesied by previous Prophets, the effect of it was that those who were only Muslims in name began to be Muslims in fact, as has already happened in the case of about 400,000 of them.”””
[Tajalliyyat-e-Ilahiyyah, p. 3, Ruhani Khaza’in, p. 20, p. 396–397 and Badr, vol. 2, no. 11,
March 16, 1906, p. 2 and al-Hakam, vol. 10, no. 9 March 17, 1906, p. 1]
“””[That is, O Moon, O Sun, you are from Me and I am from you] In this revelation God Almighty has first called me: Moon; being Himself the Sun. This means that as the light of the moon is a bounty from, the sun, in the same way my light is a bounty from God Almighty. Then God has named Me: Sun; being Himself the Moon. This means that He will demonstrate His majestic light through me. He was hidden and will manifest Himself through me. The world was not aware of His Brightness. But now, through me, His majestic light will spread in all directions.”””
[Tajalliyyat-e-Ilahiyyah, p. 4, Ruhani Khaza’in, vol. 20, p. 397]
The Promised Messiah[as] said: Yesterday I was repeating the revelation
1015 —The reference is to the revelation: [Urdu] I shall
show you the flash of this Sign five times. [Jalal-ud-Din Shams]
when the following Persian verse, which appears after the revelation
1016—The reference is to: [Persian] When the reign of the Messiah, the monarch begins. [Mirza Bashir Ahmad]
mentioned earlier, was suddenly breathed into my soul:
1017—-Persian] Do not undervalue his rank, for Prophets have taken pride in his epoch. [Publishers]
[Tajalliyyat-e-Ilahiyyah, p. 4, Ruhani Khaza’in, vol. 20, p. 397 and Badr, vol. 2, no. 13,
dated March 29, 1906, p. 1 and al-Hakam, vol. 10, no. 9, March 17, 1906, p. 1]
“””(B) God addressed me and said: Meaning that [Arabic] A time is coming when there will be no one left in this hell which is the hell of plague and earthquakes. That is, in this country. The same will happen here as happened in the case of the people of Nuhas [Noah] that after the death of a large number of people there followed a period of security.
Then after this revelation Allah the Almighty said: That is [Arabic] Then the supplications of
people will be heard, there will be seasonable rains, abundant yields of fruits and harvests, a
time of joy, and freedom from extraordinary afflictions.””””
[Tajalliyyat-e-Ilahiyyah, p. 7, Ruhani Khaza’in, vol. 20, p. 399] (see also, 2009 online edition of Tadhkirah).
“”””God has informed me that Maulavi Hakeem Noor-ud-Deen would have a son and there would be small spots on his body signifying “it is the same son who has been prophesied,” and it happened so, that later Hakeem Sahib had a son, who was named Abdul Hayee, and when he was born, he had those small spots and those spots were still on his body.”””
Tajalliyyat-e-Ilahiyyah, (Divine Manifestations, p. 30)Also see Hasanat Ali’s, “Noorudin”, see page 101
“””In a state of vision I was shown those kings, who were riding upon horses, and I was told: These are the ones who will carry the yoke of your obedience on their necks and God will bless them.”””
“””This morning, March 15, 1906, Thursday, I again received the revelation:
This means that through these five earthquakes God will manifest His countenance and demonstrate His being. And you are to Me like My manifestation, that is ‘your coming
is like My perfect manifestation’. It is God’s promise that He will manifest Himself through five earthquakes and the promise of God will not be averted and is bound to be fulfilled.”””
[Tajalliyyat-e-Ilahiyyah, p. 13, Ruhani Khaza’in, vol. 20, p. 404 and
al-Hakam, vol. 10, no. 9, March 17, 1906, p. 1]
[Tajalliyyat-e-Ilahiyyah, first edition, p. 21 footnote, Ruhani Khaza’in, vol. 20, p. 409 footnote]
“”””God has repeatedly informed me that He would honour me and the love of Him would be instilled in the hearts of the people. And my Movement will spread all over the world and my movement will triumph over all others and the people of my Movement will gain an excellence in the fields of knowledge and learning. And He will silence all, with the Divine signs and truth. Every nation will come to this stream, and this Movement will increase, grow and prosper till the time that it will overwhelm the whole of the world. There will be numerous difficulties and trials but God will remove all this, from the way and will fulfil His promise, and addressing me God has told:
‘I shall honour thee and bless thee so much so that kings will seek blessings from thy clothes. Therefore, all ye listen, remember and secure these tidings in your caskets that this is a Divine word which will one day manifest itself with full glory. “””
(Tajalliyyat-e-Ilahiyyah, p.17, Ruhani Khaza’in, vol 20, p. 409)
“””I received this honour through obedience to the Holy Prophet, peace be on him. Had I not been one of his followers, I would never have been honoured with the Divine word, even if my striving and my deeds had matched the grandeur and height of all the mountains, for all prophethoods, except the prophethood of Muhammad, have come to an end. No law-bearing prophet can now arise, but a prophet without law may arrive, provided he is primarily a follower of the Holy Prophet, peace be on him. Thus I am both a follower and a prophet.””””
(Tajalliyyat-e-Ilahiyyah, pp. 19-20, Ruhani Khaza’in, vol. 20, pp. 411-412)
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MGA’s special son (the Musleh Maud), Mirza Basheer-uddin Mahmud Ahmad, eventually had 7 wives and 20+ children. However, his 2 brothers didn’t, it was only the Khalifa who was allowed to indulge in multiple wives and etc. Nowadays, you will see Ahmadi’s on social media claiming that taking more then one wife is only in cases of war or extreme necessity, but how do they explain their Khalifa taking so many? Furthermore, its important to note that he had 9 children with his first wife, which is more than enough, and, he was never involved in any war, nor were any Ahmadi’s in this era. Remember, in the past, Ahmadiyya Khalifa’s supported polygamy. The Mirza family is strict on women, in fact, MGA said that a man should divorce his wife if she even talks to man whilst alone. One more thing, as we all know, MGA divorced his first wife in-spite in the 1891-1893 era, since she was against MGA and his proposal for his 3rd marriage with Muhammadi Begum. What’s really important to note here is that MGA’s first wife (his first cousin) had already lived separate of MGA for 30+ years (her housing arrangements are uknown), MGA used her for children only, which resulted in 2 sons, both rejected MGA and his behaviors. When he died in 1965, he owned roughly 500 acres of land in Pakistan and lots of cash.
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We have written over and over again how Ahmadiyya is dead in the West without immigration, i.e., the asylum scams that the Mirza family keeps running. The Mirza family should be arrested and forced to pay reparations, similar to how the wife of Bernie Madoff has been treated. Nonetheless, in the USA, Canada, Germany and the USA, Ahmadiyya youth hate their religion, they hate the stupid and silly Ahmadi mullahs who fear job security so much that they pressure Ahmadi’s to pay more and give free labor.
______________________________________________________________________________________________A scan from an Ahmadiyya Discussion Board on Facebook
There is a new Facebook Discussion Forum wherein young western born Ahmadis have been lashing out at the Ahmadiyya mullahs and aunties.
Ahmadi’s will argue that most Western born Sunni/Shia Muslims are also leaving Islam and etc
We anticipate all of the silly arguments that come out of Ahmadi’s. In this case, if Ahmadi’s do make this counter argument, we will further counter that since Ahmadi’s are the saved sect (per Ahmadi’s), this shouldn’t be happening to them.
_____________________________________________________________________________________________The Messiah wasn’t suppose to Muslims that quit Islam
Further, this goes back to the Quran and hadith. The Messiah to come would convert all Christians to Islam and 99% of the world, then the Day of Judgement would come. Moreover, it’s very ironic that MGA came, claimed to the Messiah, and still, his followers have left Salaat and have indulged in Kufr.
_____________________________________________________________________________________________Ahmadi-immigrants hate Westernized Ahmadis
If you ever go to an Ahmadi-mosque in the west, you will quickly realize how all the immigrant type of Ahmadis (Pakistanis) don’t like the Western-born Ahmadi’s, the reason is, the Western born Ahmadis dont care about Ahmadiyya and live a very liberal lifestyle.
Ahmadis lie all the time. They present MGA as some type of scholar and etc, he wasn’t, he had a team of writers. It’s not their fault, Ahmadi’s are trained and conditioned to lie, the Ahmadi mullahs lie based on job security, they need money and continue to officially lie on behalf of the Mirza family, this is why the Mirza family picks from the poorest families when it is selecting Mullahs. Today, we present our readers with an authentic scan from the most prestigious newspaper in British India, the Civil and Military Gazette. In this edition, which is Wednesday, October 24th, 1894, MGA’s death prediction vs. Abdullah Athim is mentioned. MGA’s prediction that Athim would die in 15 months is the biggest proof that MGA was a stupid mullah and should not be a Messiah. You can read more about MGA’s failure here: https://ahmadiyyafactcheckblog.com/?s=Athim
Summary of this report
REPORT OF CIVIL AND MILITARY GAZETTE.
MIRZA GULAM QADIANI A DANGEROUS FANATIC
Under the caption of “ a dangerous fanatic” The Civil and Military Gazette Lahore, in his publication dated October, 24 1894, carried out a report about Mirza Gulam Qadiani which states that there is a well known fanatic in Gurdaspur Punjab. He calls himself Muslim and Messiah. His followers are no less fanatical than himself.
His prophesy regarding the death of a native christian of Amritsar has miserabley failed and the doomed man is still alive. A man of Such fanatic vision must be under police surveillance. His speeches create disturbance to law and order.
He is “anthema Maranatha” (a cursed new god) among orthodox muslims.
The newspaper (C&MG) gave an extract of article published in english daily “Muhammadan” as under:-
“Religious zeal by the curse sayers of Kadian is no matter but this shows the mental health of these peoples.They are of narrow vision and this renders them crude reactionist. His (Mirza),s writing reflect his hostile attitude to modern civilisation. He continue to fight with all around him. A railway train is a hateful conveyance for him. He thinks Christians have made all this modern machines with magic.
C&MG says they endorse the above report of the “Mohammadan”. Mirza,s such activities are under their observation for last many years and he is gaining strength. We should watch him more carefully in future.
Screen shots of Newspaper attached
Ahmadiyya INC spends its time greasing politicians and championing religious freedom and etc. Why? The reason is that they always try to get political support, just like scientology. They played these games while they were under British rule.
Why are they soooo involved with religious freedom?
Just like Scientology and other cult groups, Ahmadiyya INC has an internal business policy wherein they are taught to reach out to politicians as they seek favors, press, free marketing, and a platform to cry religious persecution and thus more asylum cases, i.e. fresh desi people to work on behalf of Ahmadiyya in the west, and thus sacrifice their lives, and their children for Ahmadiyya. In the case of Jackie Spier and the USA, an Ahmadi, Kareem Ahmad donated heavily towards their campaigns and developed a relationship based on bribery, as they secured an caucus in the USA and many other perks. However, these days, Kareem Ahmad is fighting for his life, since he was indicted on man-slaughter charges as he mad millions defrauding citizens of California.
Does Ahmadiyya INC follow the Johnson Amendment?
The Johnson Amendment was introduced in the USA in an attempt to further separate religious organizations from politics. Most religious organizations are looking for political backing and seem to use this channel as a quick way to open temples, mosques and etc. Has Ahmadiyya violated this piece of legislation?
The Ahmadiyya caucus
Ahmadiyya INC has brought together democrats and republicans as they seek to be at the forefront of explaining religious discrimination and religious freedom. This is another political move by Ahmadiyya INC, when countries dont allow Ahmadiyya to sell their product, Ahmadiyya INC cries persecution.
Why did they invite the Rohingya Muslims?
Ahmadiyya INC is trying to make a connection with the mass murder of the Rohingya Muslims and themselves. However, there is no comparison. The Rohingya Muslims were displaced and murdered, in the 10’s of thousands, and simply for being Muslim. Whereas Ahmadiyya INC goes out and tries to convert Muslims to Ahmadiyya and thus had lots of beef’s in Pakistan and British India. Ahmadi’s are rude people, and their preaching needs to be banned by law in all Muslim countries.
We have written about this before. Most Ahmadi clerics don’t understand Islam properly, they are brainwashed by an unaccredited institution, i.e. Jamia-Ahmadia. Jamia Ahmadia passes whomever they wish, and they fail whomever they wish. In a recent case, they gave full “imam” status to Ibrahim Noonan, who was a convert to Ahmadiyya about 20 years ago through a woman whom he eventually married and later divorced. He hasn’t properly understood Islam and has terrible manners, he is basically a security guard who couldn’t find a job and turned to Ahmadiyya for employment. Mirza Tahir Ahmad hired him immediately, since, Ahmadiyya INC needed an Irish Imam, since Bashir Ahmad Orchard had died in the 1980’s. Ahmadiyya INC always looks to find a local in any country and promote him to Imam, this gives Ahmadiyya INC a local with whom they can better negotiate with local politicians.
“””Many of the foreign students did not finish the entire curriculum, but they were dispatched as foreign missionaries to their respective homelands. The Second Khalifah ra acknowledged
this in my case and stated that, at my age, I would require more than 8 years to master the Arabic language, let alone the 8 years to complete the standard Jami‘ah missionary program.
The process at that time was that once a student was ready for their missionary work, they were determined to be either domestic or foreign missionaries. Domestic missionaries reported to the Sadr Anjuman and foreign missionaries reported to the Wakil-e-Tabshir of the Tehrik-e-Jadid Office. I was the latter and my salary of 50 rupees per month was paid out of the Tehrik-e-Jadid Office. In fact, none of the foreign missionaries during my enrollment in Jami‘ah completed the full Jami‘ah program, including Kunze, who was a German already enrolled, but left at the same time I did.
There are several examples of outstanding missionaries who similarly did not complete the formal Jami‘ah course such as Bashir Orchard of Glasgow.””””
In Ahmadiyya, their Jihad is to sell their religion like a product, thus Ahmadi’s have been radicalized. Ahmadi’s are brainwashed to believe by the Mirza family that if anyone stops them from selling their religion, it is an infringement on human rights and the basic idea of religious freedom. This is why and how Ahmadi’s cry persecution against all countries that stop Ahmadi’s from selling their product, i.e. that MGA was a prophet and the messiah. Ahmadiyya offends everyone, even Pakistani-Christians. Its not just Muslims who are offended. Further, Ahmadi’s go out of their way to promote their religion and can’t be trusted in any democratic country, since they will be promoting Ahmadiyya issues above everything else.
Advertising Standards Authority assesses dozens of complaints over ‘Messiah has come’ billboards
Ahmadiyya INC has a process wherein any and all topics can be discussed at the National level of any country, inside the Ahmadiyya movement that is. This is a comical attempt to essentially sell people Chinese democracy and pass it off as democracy. The jamaat’s shura system is not an openly deliberative method of decision-making, it’s a place for older men to make minor changes at a time, method and speed of their choosing. After all, this poster and so many others (including Mirza Masroor Ahmad) have made clear so many times that the jamaat is not a democracy, but a divinely-guided institution that doesn’t really care so much about what people want.
Its institutions aren’t set up to care about what people want. Anyone who actually wants to change the jamaat is going to be brow-beaten, pressured and harrangued. Anyone who’s there is really only going to be concerned with minor changes. This is a body for and by older men. If you think that separate shura for lajna and khuddam mean anything, why not agree to a separate Parliament in the UK for Muslims or a separate National Assembly in Pakistan for Ahmadis? This Ahmadi National Assembly in Pakistan could then make non-binding recommendations to the actual Assembly which it would promptly file in its circular cabinet.
All Ahmadi shuras are an attempt to give people the illusion that the jamaat is an organization with institutions that is responsive to change and open to discourse. It’s not, at least not with those who want meaningful change in how it operates. It’s interested in going through the motions of this to make some tiny, cosmetic changes, or larger ones if they’re retrograde or if they wouldn’t be out of place in late nineteenth-century Punjab.
In the early 2001/2002 time frame, when outlandish bai’at (conversion) numbers were being announced in the tens of millions each year, it was suggested at a local Shura to submit this issue to the national shura (i.e. some kind of recount/investigation into this, to validate the numbers). The local Aamila member who made this suggestion was shot down by another Aamila member who got up incensed at the suggestion that numbers and progress relayed by Huzur in conversions, would even be questioned. It died right there. It never went to Shura for discussion, since it failed at the local level.
A year later, over in another city, this was raised at a local Jama’at meeting, and dismissed as off topic. The local Sadr then privately approached to indicate that he too, had some questions about the conversion numbers, but didn’t want to voice these in front of the flock, as that would put questions in their mind and have potentially destabilizing effects on their faith.