February 2018

Amatul Hayee or Amtul Hai, the daughter of Nooruddin and the wife of the 2nd Khalifa, Mirza Basheer-uddin mahmud Ahmad, and her mysterious death

Noorudin was the main ghost writer for MGA. He even moved into MGA’s house around 1893, Nooruddin and his young wife(they married in 1889), they didn’t seem to have kids until 1898 or so. Which is very odd for a new couple. There were 5 children in total for Noorudin and Sughra Begum. The surviving sons of Noorudin were ex-communicated by Mirza Basheer uddin Mahmud Ahmad in 1956. Noorudin’s daughter from this marriage was married to the new Khalifa on May 31st, 1914, her name was Amtul Hai (1900-1924), she was barely 14 when she was forcibly bequeathed to the Khalifa, Mirza Basheer uddin Mahmud Ahmad, however, she didn’t have many options, and her father didn’t leave anything behind for this set of children. In these days, Ahmadiyya leaders officially supported child marriage.

MGA arranges the marriage of Noorudin (roughly 50 years old) to the daughter (Sughra Begum) of Sufi Ahmad Jan (another Ahmadi). It should be noted that MGA’s famous bait ceremony happened in the house of Sufi Ahmad Jan, who had already agreed to give away his daughter to Noorudin in January of that same year.

After 9+ years without any children, Noorudin finally had a son with Sughra Begum, Miyan ‘Abdul Ha’i. Born February 15, 1899 also known as Abdul Haye, See Page 101. Noorudin married him off in roughly 1906-1908 in error. His name is also spelled as Miyan ‘Abdul Haye or Abdul Hai. After his young sister got married to the Khalifa, he died mysteriously and without much press by Ahmadiyya sources, we see this as a purposely murder ordered by the Khalifa.

Daughter—Amatul Ha’i— is born, was married off to Mirza Mahmud Ahmad, the Khalifa, on May 31st,1914, See Walter. She was only 14 years old. The Khalifa was 25 years old. In one of his books, the Khalifa commented that this wife of his was not good looking (See Fazl e Omar, online english edition).
_____________________________________________________________________________________________Son—Maulvi Abdus Salaam (He married a daughter of Mufti Muhammad Sadiq)(died in 1956, was buried at Rabwah). He seems to have died in the same era that his brothers were getting kicked out of Rabwah and Ahmadiyya

He seems to have remained an Qadiani-Ahmadi. His son recently popped-up in an Ahmadi magazine. After the partition of 1947, they moved to Quetta. Which is very strange. We are not sure how he got the title of “Maulvi”. Nevertheless, he sent his son to Rabwah for schooling in the early 1950’s. His son’s name is Sami Omar Sahib, he was born in Qadian in 1944.  Sami Omar Sahib is also the maternal grandson of Mufti Muhammad Sadiq.

Son—Abdul Wahab

Son—Abdul Mannan Omar– He was born on 19 April 1910–28 July 2006.  He married the daughter of a famous Ahmadi, Maulvi Sher Ali. Maulvi Sher Ali died in 1947, it seems that his daughter was also kicked out of Ahmadiyya.

Abdul Manan Omar represented the Lahori Ahmadi’s to the 1974 Pakistan National Assembly proceedings in which Ahmadis (both LAM and Qadianis) were declared non-Muslim. Abdul Manan Omar sahib testified on behalf of LAM in those proceedings.
_____________________________________________________________________________________________Noorudin dies in March of 1914, Amatul Hai is married off to the new Khalifa in May of 1914

As soon as Noorudin dies, the newly elected Khalifa seems to have quickly expanded his reach. He grew up in the same house as Amatul Hai since they all lived in MGA’s house (see Walter and Tarikh i Ahmadiyya). Amtul Hai is only 14 years old.
_____________________________________________________________________________________________Mirza Basheer-uddin Mahmud Ahmad and Amatul Hai have 3 children from 1914 to 1924

1. Amatul Qayyum, daughter, she was married off to the famous Ahmadi, M.M. Ahmad., They had 0 children.  

2. Amatul Rashid, daughter, she was married off to Mian Abdul Rahim Ahmad Sahib.
She seems to have confided to some Ex-Ahmadi’s about the sexual behavior of her father.  See here: See testimonial #23.  She died in 2013, she left 1 son (Dr Zaheerud Din Mansoo) and 3 daughters. They are all in America these days.  Dr. Zaheeruddin Mansoor Ahmad is currently the National Secretary Taleem-ul-Quran and Waqf-e-Ardhi. She died in Maryland.

2.a.  After being kicked out of Ahmadiyya, the son of Noorudin came to Qadian to attend the funeral of Mirza Sharif Ahmad, he stayed at the house of Amtul Rashid, read this incident.

3. Mirza Khalil Ahmad, son, they simply state that he had passed away. He married Asma tahir in 1964 (per a friday khutbah by Mirza Masroor Ahmad) and seems to have moved to Canada after 1984.  Asma Tahir died in Dec of 2016. They had 0 children. In fact, they seem to have raised their niece in their house.

Amatul Haye becomes the secretary of Lajna in 1922, the Khalifas wife #1 becomes President

“””At the instruction of Hadhrat Khalifatul Masih II(ra) these signatory women assembled on December 25th, 1922 at the house of Hadhrat Nusrat Jehan Begum(ra), wife of the Promised Messiah(as). After Zuhr (afternoon) prayer, Hadhrat Khalifatul Masih II(ra) made a short speech, and in this way the Lajna Ima`illah came into existence. After this session, detailed rules of Lajna Ima`illah were published in the magazine, Tadeeb-un-Nisa, which used to be published in Qadian under the editorship of Hadhrat Sheikh Ya‘qub ‘Ali ‘Irfani Sahib(ra). In this way the regular activities of the Lajna began.”””

“””Initially, there was no separate body in the community for women. Understanding the crucial role of women in Islam, and inspired by his second wife, Amatul Hayee Sahiba(ra), Hadhrat Mirza Bashir-ud-Din Mahmud Ahmad(ra), Khalifatul Masih II (Second Successor to the Promised Messiah(as)), founded a separate organisation (within the community), Lajna Ima’illah, solely for women. Hadhrat Amatul Hayee Sahiba(ra) was its first secretary. After her, this important office was assigned to the wife of Hadhrat Mirza Bashir-ud-Din Mahmud Ahmad(ra), Hadhrat Sarah Begum Sahiba(ra) and then to Hadhrat Sayeda Maryam Begum Sahiba(ra).”””

“””When Lajna Ima’illah was established, its members requested Hadhrat Nusrat Jehan Begum(ra), the Blessed wife of the Promised Messiah(as), to become its first president. It is likely that she presided over the first session, but during that very session she nominated Hadhrat Sayeda Mahmuda Begum Sahiba(ra) as president. Hadhrat Sayeda Mahmudah Begum Sahiba(ra) held that post until her death on 31st July, 1958. From August 1958, Hadhrat Maryam Sadiqah(ra) assumed this responsibility.”””

See the ROR, August 2009, see here:

Amatul Haye dies mysteriously in 1924
When the Khalifa returned from his tour of Europe in 1924, the daughter of Noorudin died mysteriously. The front page of Al-fazal 20 Dec 1924, it says “final moments of Syeda Amtul Hai. Professor Ghulam Rasul also explains this incident here.

The scan from Al-Fazl talking about her death

See here: Page  213,

Also see here—-

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How Mirza Basheeruddin Mahmud Ahmad killed his own wife, Amtul Hai, the daughter of Noorudin

How Mirza Basheer-uddin Mahmud Ahmad forcibly married Noorudin’s daughter Amtul Hai in 1914?

Mirza Basheer-uddin Mahmud Ahmad had 20+ children with 7 wives

Mirza Ghulam Ahmad did adultery, but his son, Mirza Basheer-uddin Mahmud Ahmad, the Khalifa did it everyday

Hakeem Noor-ud-Deen – Khalifatul Masih I – The Way of the Righteous

Amatul Hayee or Amtul Hai, the daughter of Nooruddin and the wife of the 2nd Khalifa, Mirza Basheer-uddin mahmud Ahmad, and her mysterious death

The Establishment of Lajna Ima’illah and the Sacrifices of Early Ahmadi Muslim Women

Nooruddin married off his eldest son (Abdul Haye) in error, in roughly the 1906–1908 era

How Mirza Basheeruddin Mahmud Ahmad killed his own wife, Amtul Hai, the daughter of Noorudin

How Mirza Basheer-uddin Mahmud Ahmad forcibly married Noorudin’s daughter Amtul Hai in 1914?

Maulvi Noorudin was an Ahl-e-Hadith aka Wahhabi type of Muslim

Nooruddin married off his eldest son (Abdul Haye) in error, in roughly the 1906–1908 era

Who is Abdul Wahab Omar? The son of Noorudin?

Fauzia Faizi confirms that the Mirza family is full of incest and rapists

Maulvi Noorudin was an Ahl-e-Hadith aka Wahhabi type of Muslim

The Establishment of Lajna Ima’illah and the Sacrifices of Early Ahmadi Muslim Women

Some testimonies on the immoral life of Mirza Mahmud Ahmad

Who is Abdul Mannan Omar (1910-2006), the youngest son of Noorudin?


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“Tajalliyaat-i-Ilaahiyyah” or in english, “Divine Manifestations” by Mirza Ghulam Ahmad published posthumously (1922)

Ahmadiyya INC is always lying about what MGA wrote and etc, in this specific case, we have across a book that published posthumously by Ahmadiyya leadership. They write that it was published in 1922 and claim that it was written in 1906 (see page 387-389). They claim that MGA began writing this book on March 15th, of 1906. In this book, MGA highlights earthquakes and warns the world about some impending day of judgement-type of earthquakes. Although recent Ahmadi sources tell us that MGA wrote this book in 1906, some earlier sources like Hasanat Ali’s, “Noorudin”, see page 101, tell us that portions of this book were also written in 1898, since MGA predicted the birth of Nooruddin’s son with spots all over his body.
_____________________________________________________________________________________________Some quotes

“””I shall show you the flash of this Sign five times.”””

[Tajalliyyat-e-Ilahiyyah, p. 1, Ruhani Khaza’in, vol. 20, p. 395]

“””God says He would come secretly like thieves, that is to say, no astrologer or claimant of revelation or dreamer of dreams will be given any intimation of His coming except that much which He has revealed to His Promised Messiah or that which He might add to it later. After these Signs, a change will occur in the world, and the hearts of many will be drawn to God. Many noble souls will move away from the love of the world. The intervening obstructions of
heedlessness will be removed and they would be given to drink of the fountain of true Islam.”””

[Tajalliyyat-e-Ilahiyyah, pp. 2–3, Ruhani Khaza’in, vol. 20, p. 396]

“”In a light slumber, I was shown a paper by God Almighty, on which was written:
 meaning that these Signs will prove the truth of the Holy Qur’an.””

[Tajalliyyat-e-Ilahiyyah, p. 2 footnote, Ruhani Khaza’in, vol. 20, p. 396 footnote]

“””[Persian] When the reign of the Messiah, the monarch begins, the Muslims who were
Muslims in name only will be reconverted to Islam.

In this revelation, by the reign of the just monarch is meant the period of the call of this humble one. No worldly kingdom is indicated here, but the kingdom of heaven that has been bestowed upon me. In summary, the meaning of this revelation is that when the kingdom of heaven, which in the estimation of Allah is the period of the Promised Messiah, began towards the end of the sixth millennium, as had been prophesied by previous Prophets, the effect of it was that those who were only Muslims in name began to be Muslims in fact, as has already happened in the case of about 400,000 of them.”””

[Tajalliyyat-e-Ilahiyyah, p. 3, Ruhani Khaza’in, p. 20, p. 396–397 and Badr, vol. 2, no. 11,
March 16, 1906, p. 2 and al-Hakam, vol. 10, no. 9 March 17, 1906, p. 1]

“””[That is, O Moon, O Sun, you are from Me and I am from you] In this revelation God Almighty has first called me: Moon; being Himself the Sun. This means that as the light of the moon is a bounty from, the sun, in the same way my light is a bounty from God Almighty. Then God has named Me: Sun; being Himself the Moon. This means that He will demonstrate His majestic light through me. He was hidden and will manifest Himself through me. The world was not aware of His Brightness. But now, through me, His majestic light will spread in all directions.”””

[Tajalliyyat-e-Ilahiyyah, p. 4, Ruhani Khaza’in, vol. 20, p. 397]

The Promised Messiah[as] said: Yesterday I was repeating the revelation

1015 —The reference is to the revelation: [Urdu] I shall
show you the flash of this Sign five times. [Jalal-ud-Din Shams]

when the following Persian verse, which appears after the revelation

1016—The reference is to: [Persian] When the reign of the Messiah, the monarch begins. [Mirza Bashir Ahmad]

mentioned earlier, was suddenly breathed into my soul:

1017—-Persian] Do not undervalue his rank, for Prophets have taken pride in his epoch. [Publishers]

[Tajalliyyat-e-Ilahiyyah, p. 4, Ruhani Khaza’in, vol. 20, p. 397 and Badr, vol. 2, no. 13,
dated March 29, 1906, p. 1 and al-Hakam, vol. 10, no. 9, March 17, 1906, p. 1]

“””(B) God addressed me and said: Meaning that [Arabic] A time is coming when there will be no one left in this hell which is the hell of plague and earthquakes. That is, in this country. The same will happen here as happened in the case of the people of Nuhas [Noah] that after the death of a large number of people there followed a period of security.

Then after this revelation Allah the Almighty said: That is [Arabic] Then the supplications of
people will be heard, there will be seasonable rains, abundant yields of fruits and harvests, a
time of joy, and freedom from extraordinary afflictions.””””

[Tajalliyyat-e-Ilahiyyah, p. 7, Ruhani Khaza’in, vol. 20, p. 399] (see also, 2009 online edition of Tadhkirah).  

“”””God has informed me that Maulavi Hakeem Noor-ud-Deen would have a son and there would be small spots on his body signifying “it is the same son who has been prophesied,” and it happened so, that later Hakeem Sahib had a son, who was named Abdul Hayee, and when he was born, he had those small spots and those spots were still on his body.”””

Tajalliyyat-e-Ilahiyyah, (Divine Manifestations, p. 30)Also see Hasanat Ali’s, “Noorudin”, see page 101

“””In a state of vision I was shown those kings, who were riding upon horses, and I was told: These are the ones who will carry the yoke of your obedience on their necks and God will bless them.”””

“””This morning, March 15, 1906, Thursday, I again received the revelation:

This means that through these five earthquakes God will manifest His countenance and demonstrate His being. And you are to Me like My manifestation, that is ‘your coming
is like My perfect manifestation’. It is God’s promise that He will manifest Himself through five earthquakes and the promise of God will not be averted and is bound to be fulfilled.”””

[Tajalliyyat-e-Ilahiyyah, p. 13, Ruhani Khaza’in, vol. 20, p. 404 and
al-Hakam, vol. 10, no. 9, March 17, 1906, p. 1]

[Tajalliyyat-e-Ilahiyyah, first edition, p. 21 footnote, Ruhani Khaza’in, vol. 20, p. 409 footnote]

“”””God has repeatedly informed me that He would honour me and the love of Him would be instilled in the hearts of the people. And my Movement will spread all over the world and my movement will triumph over all others and the people of my Movement will gain an excellence in the fields of knowledge and learning. And He will silence all, with the Divine signs and truth. Every nation will come to this stream, and this Movement will increase, grow and prosper till the time that it will overwhelm the whole of the world. There will be numerous difficulties and trials but God will remove all this, from the way and will fulfil His promise, and addressing me God has told:

‘I shall honour thee and bless thee so much so that kings will seek blessings from thy clothes. Therefore, all ye listen, remember and secure these tidings in your caskets that this is a Divine word which will one day manifest itself with full glory. “””

(Tajalliyyat-e-Ilahiyyah, p.17, Ruhani Khaza’in, vol 20, p. 409)

“””I received this honour through obedience to the Holy Prophet, peace be on him. Had I not been one of his followers, I would never have been honoured with the Divine word, even if my striving and my deeds had matched the grandeur and height of all the mountains, for all prophethoods, except the prophethood of Muhammad, have come to an end. No law-bearing prophet can now arise, but a prophet without law may arrive, provided he is primarily a follower of the Holy Prophet, peace be on him. Thus I am both a follower and a prophet.””””

(Tajalliyyat-e-Ilahiyyah, pp. 19-20, Ruhani Khaza’in, vol. 20, pp. 411-412)
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Mirza Basheer-uddin Mahmud Ahmad had 20+ children with 7 wives

MGA’s special son (the Musleh Maud), Mirza Basheer-uddin Mahmud Ahmad, eventually had 7 wives and 20+ children. However, his 2 brothers didn’t, it was only the Khalifa who was allowed to indulge in multiple wives and etc. Nowadays, you will see Ahmadi’s on social media claiming that taking more then one wife is only in cases of war or extreme necessity, but how do they explain their Khalifa taking so many? Furthermore, its important to note that he had 9 children with his first wife, which is more than enough, and, he was never involved in any war, nor were any Ahmadi’s in this era. Remember, in the past, Ahmadiyya Khalifa’s supported polygamy. The Mirza family is strict on women, in fact, MGA said that a man should divorce his wife if she even talks to man whilst alone. One more thing, as we all know, MGA divorced his first wife in-spite in the 1891-1893 era, since she was against MGA and his proposal for his 3rd marriage with Muhammadi Begum. What’s really important to note here is that MGA’s first wife (his first cousin) had already lived separate of MGA for 30+ years (her housing arrangements are uknown), MGA used her for children only, which resulted in 2 sons, both rejected MGA and his behaviors.
____________________________________________________________________________________________WIFE #1, they were married in 1902, she was only 10, she’s the daughter of Khalifa Rashid ud Din, she had only one sister, she was married into a Sunni-Muslim family, relatives, Khalifa Rashid ud Din only had 2 kids, both girls. He seems to have had 2 wives and might have became a Lahori-Ahmadi. It is unknown where he is buried at

Rashida Begum, also called Mehmooda Begum and Umme Nasir (mother of nasir), she died in 1958, in Murree, Pakistan. Age at marriage 11 years, DoB: 1891 Reference (Hazrat Sayeda Mahmooda Begum Sahiba, pg 1- Urdu) Marriage: 2 Oct 1902 – Rukhstana 8-4 October 1903 Reference (Fazl-e-Umar, pg 77- Eng).

Three children died in infancy, among them was Mirza Naseer Ahmad, a son born in 1906.

1. Mirza Nasir Ahmad, son (born in 1909 died in 1982)
2. Naasira Begum, daughter (She married her first cousin, Mirza Mansoor Ahmad, their son is Mirza Masroor Ahmad, the current Ahmadi Khalifa). Mirza Masroor Ahmad has 2 children, Mirza Waqas Ahmad and Amtul Waris Farah.

3. Mirza Mubarak Ahmad, son–born-May 1914
4. Mirza (Dr.) Munawwar Ahmad, son, 1918–1990. He had 5 children, 4 girls, 1 boy and by 1990, 14 grandchildren.

5. Mirza Hafeez Ahmad, son
6. Mirza Azhar Ahmad, son
7. Mirza Anwaar Ahmad, son
8. Mirza Rafiq Ahmad, son
9. Naseera Begum, daughter
_____________________________________________________________________________________________WIFE #2
Amatul Hayye—married on May 31st 1914, died in 1924, See here

Age at marriage 12 years.

DoB: 1 Aug 1901 Reference (Hazrat Sayeda Amtul Hai Sahiba, pg 2- Urdu) Marriage: 31 May 1914 Reference (Hazrat Sayeda Amtul Hai Sahiba, pg 7- Urdu/Alfazal 1 June 1914/Tareekh-e-Ahmadiyyat V4, 155-156)

1. Amatul Qayyum, daughter, she was married off to the famous MM Ahmad, they had no children, it was a cousin marriage.

2. Amatul Rasheed, daughter, she was married off to Mian Abdur Rahim Ahmad Sahib.
She seems to have confided to some Ex-Ahmadi’s about the sexual behavior of her father. See here: See testimonial #23. She died in 2013, she left 1 son (Dr Zaheerud Din Mansoor) and 3 daughters, one daughter is named Amatul Baseer her marriage was mentioned in the USA Ahmadiyya gazette of July 1968. They are all in America these days. Dr. Zaheeruddin Mansoor Ahmad is currently the National Secretary Taleem-ul-Quran and Waqf-e-Ardhi. She died in Maryland. Her husband, Mian Abdur Rahim Ahmad translated many speeches of Mirza Tahir Ahmad in 1984 and 1985. Other then that, we don’t have detailed information on him.  Here is a video by Dr. Zaheeruddin Mansoor Ahmad.

3. Mirza Khalil Ahmad, son—may have died, is not mentioned at all in
_____________________________________________________________________________________________WIFE #3
Syedah Maryam (died in 1944) called Umme Tahir (mother of tahir), the daughter of Dr Syed Abdul Sattar Shah, They were married on 7 February 1921 in the Mubarak Mosque. She was barely 15-16 years old, whereas the Khalifa was 35.
DoB: 1905. Age of Syeda Maryam at the time of first marriage: 2/2.5 years, Reference: Meri Maryam, Anwar ul Uloom, V17, pg 348.

First Marriage was with Mirza Mubarak Ahmad, son of Mirza Ghulam Ahmad: Date of marriage 30 Aug 1907.

Note: Date of Birth of Mirza Mubarak Ahmad: 14 June 1899 – Reference: Tareekh-e-Ahmadiyyat V2, pg. 55. Date of Death of Mirza Mubarak Ahmad: 12 Sep 1907 – Reference: Tareekh-e-Ahmadiyyat V2, pg. 495

Age of Syeda Maryam at the time of second marriage with Mirza Bashirudin Manhood: 15 years. Second Marriage: 7 Feb 1921: Rukhsati: 21 Feb 1921 Reference: Alfazal 10 Feb 1921 Reference: Meri Maryam, Anwar ul Uloom, V17, pg 350. She died in 1944

One son named Mirza Azhar Ahmad died in infancy the others are

1. Mirza Tahir Ahmad, son, born in December of 1928 (married Asifa in 1957)
————————–Granddaughter 1—Shaukat Jehan, married to Mirza  Ahmad, her first cousin
————————–Granddaughter 2—Faiza, married to Mirza Luqman Ahmad Sahib, who was the son of Mirza Nasir Ahmad, her first cousin
————————–Granddaughter 3—Yasmin Rehman Mona, married to Karim Khan
————————–Granddaughter 4—Atiatul Mujib Tooba, (was married to Sultan Malik Sahib) (DIVORCED) (
2. Amatul Hakeem, daughter (she married Syed Daud Muzaffar Shah, he died in 2011) (They married their daughter to Mirza Masroor Ahmad, the current Ahmadiyya Khalifa in 1977).
3. Amatul Basit, daughter
4. Amatul Jameel, daughter
_____________________________________________________________________________________________WIFE #4
Sarah Begum—married to her in 1925, she was dead by 1933, she seems to have died while giving birth, both the child and the mother died tragically. 

See here also.

1. Mirza Rafi Ahmad, son–Born on March 27, 1927
2. Amatul Naseer Begum, daughter, born in roughly late 1930, was 3 1/2 years old when her mother died.
3. Mirza Hanif Ahmad, son, born in 1932, died in 2014.
_____________________________________________________________________________________________WIFE #5

Azizah Begum called Umm Wassim (mother of wassim)–Married her in 1926
the daughter of Seth Abu Bakr Yousaf of Jeddah, Saudi Arabia. According to tareekh ahmadiyyat, vol 4 page 554, it goes “Hazrat Khalifa tul Masih 5th Nikah was 1st Feb 1926, also published in the Alfazal of 5th Feb 1926. The whereabouts of these 2 sons are totally unknown. The Khalifa claims that Seth Abu Bakr of Jeddah was a business man who had written to the Khalifa in 1914 in terms of marriage for his daughter, the Khalifa agreed 10 years later, and was finally married in 1926, the details and logistics are unknown (See Fazl e Omar, online english edition). Was this arab even an Ahmadi?

1. Mirza Wasim Ahmad, son, he married his maternal aunt, Amtul Qudoos, she was the daughter of Dr. Mir Muhammad Ismail.

2. Mirza Naeem Ahmad, son. He married Amatul Momin sahiba, she passed away at the age of 68 in 2009). She was the paternal granddaughter of Hadhrat Mirza Sharif Ahmad and maternal granddaughter of Mirza Aziz`Ahmad sahib. Her father was Sahibzada Mirza Zafar Ahmad sahib and her mother was Amatul Naseer sahiba.
_____________________________________________________________________________________________WIFE #6

Maryam Siddiqa called Choti Aapa (Younger Sister) and Umm Matin (mother of Matin)
Married on 30 September 1935 the daughter of Mir Mohammad Ismail sahib (the Khalifa’s uncle), this was the Khalifa’s first cousin. She was 16, since she hadn’t attended college at the time of marriage. She was the first cousin of the Khalifa. She breathed her last on November 3rd, 1999 in Rabwah and was buried in Bahishti Maqbara.

1. Amatul Matin, or spelled as Amatul Mateen, daughter, she was born on 21 December 1936 in Qadian at Darul Masih. She was the wife of Mir Mahmood Ahmad Nasir Sahib, who was her first cousin. She passed away around midnight on 14 October 2013 at the age of 76. Mir Mahmood Ahmad Nasir Sahib is a Waqfe Zindagi and has served as missionary in Spain and USA. She also had the opportunity to stay there (spain) and fulfil her obligations as wife of a missionary. When Masjid Basharat was constructed in Spain the family was there and worked extremely hard for the inauguration ceremony. Hazrat Khalifatul Masih IV (may Allah have mercy on him) related that during those days if the family had the chance to retire at 3 am they would be happy to get some sleep. She leaves behind four sons and a daughter. Her two sons are Waqfe Zindagi. Dr Ghulam Ahmad Farrukh Sahib who did PhD in Computer Science from USA but is now working in the offices of Sadr Anjuman Ahmadiyya, Rabwah and the other Waqfe Zindagi left his employment in USA and came to London and works with Hazrat Khalifatul Masih, Muhammad Ahmad Sahib. She has one daughter who lives in Holland. One son is a doctor in Dubai and another is in USA.
_____________________________________________________________________________________________WIFE #7

Bushra Begum aka Mehar Appa, married on 24 July 1944, daughter of Syed Aziz Ahmad Shah
NO children, she was also a cousin of Fauzia Faizi’s mother. She died on 22 May 1997.

Anwar-ul-Uloom Volume 11, “Chund Ahem aur Zaroori Umoor

Posting the translation of pages 79-81 here:

“””After this Huzoor said about the Sarda act some friends think of this as an attack on Shariah and some say that there is nothing dangerous in it. But I say that both are exaggerating or playing down. Whether they be the ones that say it is an attack on Islam and also those that say there is no problem. This is definitely not an attack on Islam, but it is also not correct that Islam is not endangered by it. Certainly it did not attack Islam but it did attack Muslims and it endangers several other aspects. Nobody can deny that marrying a weak and helpless prepubescent girl is very cruel and it makes her useless for the nation and Jamaat. No wise man would and can support it but there is a difference between Nikkah and consummation of the husband and wife. Consummation is not allowed in any case in prepubescence but we have to see if Nikkah is also not allowed or is it. It can be clearly gleaned from Islam that a woman does Nikkah after pubescence because Nikkah is connected to the consent of woman and man and if there is no pubescence then how can there be consent. Hence if it is said that prepubescent Nikkah is allowed even without any need then we would say that it falsifies the reason for Nikkah that Shariah established. The purpose of Nikkah is that man and woman promise to merge with each other and this promise cannot be made in prepubescence. But there is no doubt that in some conditions prepubescent Nikkah becomes a need. For example there is a man whose wife dies and the second wife has young adult sons and he does not like to transfer custodianship [Wali who gives off the girl for marriage] of step sisters to their step brothers and he also doesn’t want to show as if there are schisms in his home. He can do nikkah of a prepubescent girl. But Shariah has allowed that girl that if she doesn’t like the suitor then she can deny him after achieving puberty in this way it’ll only be a so-called Nikkah of a prepubescent. In several conditions this very prepubescent Nikkah is preferred. I also get several such letters that my mother and father did my Nikkah with a certain person and I like him but other relatives want to end that relation. Similarly several other such scenarios are possible where marriage at a small age might be beneficial but these are rare. However, it is necessary that prepubescent marriage is allowed. But these necessities can also be sacrificed and Sharia has allowed that if a good thing is abused then it can be restricted. It is mentioned in Hadeeth that during the time of Hazrat Umar RA people used to give three Talaq together and then got back together. Hazrat Umar RA said that this is jest with Shariat. Now if somebody gives three Talaq together then he can’t get back together. So it is allowed that if a good thing is being abused it can be stopped, but Muslims take this decision themselves. Others don’t have the right to restrict because if they intrude here then it will impact other issues as well. For example Muslims are allowed to slaughter cows. It is possible that Hindus pass a law against that. Similarly divorce is allowed, polygamy is allowed, people of other religion can pass laws against these too but no Muslim would tolerate intrusion in these matters. Due to these reasons intrusion [of law via the Sarda Act] on prepubescent marriage is dangerous. But the solution for that is not what some people have said to marry off 10 year old girls. This is damaging yourselves. After this Huzoor [KM2] proved that Muslims don’t need this law because child marriages are very rare in them and also decreasing day by day. Then Huzoor explained that there are some allowances in Sharia that are not corollary but a central part of Sharia and has said that if you do this then this is ordered while discussing things allowed in Islam Intrusion in these matters is very bad. Childhood marriage is also amongst these things. Shariat has allowed it and there are some orders about it that after becoming pubescent the girl can deny such a marriage if she wants. Then a type of such allowance is the one on which Rasool Kareem [Muhammad] SAW acted and childhood marriage is exactly such an allowance on which Rasool Kareem SAW acted. That is, he married Hazrat Ayesha RA in her childhood and in the age of 12 she was sent to his home. It is correct that Arab’s become pubescent early and it is also correct that Hazrat Ayesha RA had superior [physical?] powers but her age was just 12 when she came to Rasool Kareem SAW’s home. Now if because of her age marriage was stalled so that she can be 17, 18 then she would have enjoyed the company of Rasool Kareem SAW for only one year and a lot of discussions about religion would have remained incomplete. But the time she got she was able to serve religion a lot. This is why it was necessary that God got her in Rasool Kareem SAW’s company at such a time that she can be beneficial to the world. This is why [God] made her pubescent soon. So completely banning the thing that Rasool Kareem SAW practiced and declared correct is a huge occurence. I say on this issue that stop childhood marriage but temporarily, as long as Musilms are abusing this right, don’t forbid it indefinitely. For this the way to go about is to tell the government about the problems with this law and the dangers that Muslims face. If the government agrees that it won’t intrude in such matters in the future then we can be satisfied and we can tolerate this.”””
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The biggest problems with Ahmadiyya youth in Canada, the USA, the UK and Germany are drugs, dating and lack of prayers

We have written over and over again how Ahmadiyya is dead in the West without immigration, i.e., the asylum scams that the Mirza family keeps running The Mirza family should be arrested and forced to pay reparations, similar to how the wife of Bernie Madoff has been treated.  Nonetheless, in the USA, Canada, Germany and the USA, Ahmadiyya youth hate their religion, they hate the stupid and silly Ahmadi mullahs who fear job security so much that they pressure Ahmadi’s to pay more and give free labor.  

A scan from an Ahmadiyya Discussion Board on Facebook

There is a new Facebook Discussion Forum wherein young western born Ahmadis have been lashing out at the Ahmadiyya mullahs and aunties.

Ahmadi’s will argue that most Western born Sunni/Shia Muslims are also leaving Islam and etc
We anticipate all of the silly arguments that come out of Ahmadi’s.  In this case, if Ahmadi’s do make this counter argument, we will further counter that since Ahmadi’s are the saved sect (per Ahmadi’s), this shouldn’t be happening to them.

The Messiah wasn’t suppose to Muslims that quit Islam 
Further, this goes back to the Quran and hadith.  The Messiah to come would convert all Christians to Islam and 99% of the world, then the Day of Judgement would come.  Moreover, it’s very ironic that MGA came, claimed to the Messiah, and still, his followers have left Salaat and have indulged in Kufr.

Ahmadi-immigrants hate Westernized Ahmadis
If you ever go to an Ahmadi-mosque in the west, you will quickly realize how all the immigrant type of Ahmadis (Pakistanis) don’t like the Western-born Ahmadi’s, the reason is, the Western born Ahmadis dont care about Ahmadiyya and live a very liberal lifestyle.

Mirza Ghulam Ahmad was considered a fanatical person by the Civil and Military Gazette

Ahmadis lie all the time.  They present MGA as some type of scholar and etc, he wasn’t, he had a team of writersIt’s not their fault, Ahmadi’s are trained and conditioned to lie, the Ahmadi mullahs lie based on job security, they need money and continue to officially lie on behalf of the Mirza family, this is why the Mirza family picks from the poorest families when it is selecting Mullahs.  Today, we present our readers with an authentic scan from the most prestigious newspaper in British India, the Civil and Military Gazette.  In this edition, which is Wednesday, October 24th, 1894, MGA’s death prediction vs. Abdullah Athim is mentioned.  MGA’s prediction that Athim would die in 15 months is the biggest proof that MGA was a stupid mullah and should not be a Messiah.  You can read more about MGA’s failure here:

Summary of this report


Under the caption of “ a dangerous fanatic” The Civil and Military Gazette Lahore, in his publication dated October, 24 1894, carried out a report about Mirza Gulam Qadiani which states that there is a well known fanatic in Gurdaspur Punjab. He calls himself Muslim and Messiah. His followers are no less fanatical than himself.

His prophesy regarding the death of a native christian of Amritsar has miserabley failed and the doomed man is still alive. A man of Such fanatic vision must be under police surveillance. His speeches create disturbance to law and order.
He is “anthema Maranatha” (a cursed new god) among orthodox muslims.
The newspaper (C&MG) gave an extract of article published in english daily “Muhammadan” as under:-

“Religious zeal by the curse sayers of Kadian is no matter but this shows the mental health of these peoples.They are of narrow vision and this renders them crude reactionist. His (Mirza),s writing reflect his hostile attitude to modern civilisation. He continue to fight with all around him. A railway train is a hateful conveyance for him. He thinks Christians have made all this modern machines with magic.

C&MG says they endorse the above report of the “Mohammadan”. Mirza,s such activities are under their observation for last many years and he is gaining strength. We should watch him more carefully in future.

Screen shots of Newspaper attached

An Ahmadiyya caucus in Washington D.C., USA? Then they invite the Rohingya Muslims?

Ahmadiyya INC spends its time greasing politicians and championing religious freedom and etc.  Why?  The reason is that they always try to get political support, just like scientology.  They played these games while they were under British rule.

Why are they soooo involved with religious freedom?
Just like Scientology and other cult groups, Ahmadiyya INC has an internal business policy wherein they are taught to reach out to politicians as they seek favors, press, free marketing, and a platform to cry religious persecution and thus more asylum cases, i.e. fresh desi people to work on behalf of Ahmadiyya in the west, and thus sacrifice their lives, and their children for Ahmadiyya.  In the case of Jackie Spier and the USA, an Ahmadi, Kareem Ahmad donated heavily towards their campaigns and developed a relationship based on bribery, as they secured an caucus in the USA and many other perks.  However, these days, Kareem Ahmad is fighting for his life, since he was indicted on man-slaughter charges as he mad millions defrauding citizens of California.

Does Ahmadiyya INC follow the Johnson Amendment?
The Johnson Amendment was introduced in the USA in an attempt to further separate religious organizations from politics.  Most religious organizations are looking for political backing and seem to use this channel as a quick way to open temples, mosques and etc.  Has Ahmadiyya violated this piece of legislation?

The Ahmadiyya caucus
Ahmadiyya INC has brought together democrats and republicans as they seek to be at the forefront of explaining religious discrimination and religious freedom.  This is another political move by Ahmadiyya INC, when countries dont allow Ahmadiyya to sell their product, Ahmadiyya INC cries persecution.

Why did they invite the Rohingya Muslims?
Ahmadiyya INC is trying to make a connection with the mass murder of the Rohingya Muslims and themselves.  However, there is no comparison.  The Rohingya Muslims were displaced and murdered, in the 10’s of thousands, and simply for being Muslim.  Whereas Ahmadiyya INC goes out and tries to convert Muslims to Ahmadiyya and thus had lots of beef’s in Pakistan and British India.  Ahmadi’s are rude people, and their preaching needs to be banned by law in all Muslim countries.

Some pics

The non-Pakistani-Ahmadi-clerics were barely taught any Arabic by Ahmadiyya INC

We have written about this before.  Most Ahmadi clerics don’t understand Islam properly, they are brainwashed by an unaccredited institution, i.e. Jamia-Ahmadia.  Jamia Ahmadia passes whomever they wish, and they fail whomever they wish.  In a recent case, they gave full “imam” status to Ibrahim Noonan, who was a convert to Ahmadiyya about 20 years ago through a woman whom he eventually married and later divorced.  He hasn’t properly understood Islam and has terrible manners, he is basically a security guard who couldn’t find a job and turned to Ahmadiyya for employment.  Mirza Tahir Ahmad hired him immediately, since, Ahmadiyya INC needed an Irish Imam, since Bashir Ahmad Orchard had died in the 1980’s.  Ahmadiyya INC always looks to find a local in any country and promote him to Imam, this gives Ahmadiyya INC a local with whom they can better negotiate with local politicians.

The quote
“””Many of the foreign students did not finish the entire curriculum, but they were dispatched as foreign missionaries to their respective homelands. The Second Khalifah ra acknowledged
this in my case and stated that, at my age, I would require more than 8 years to master the Arabic language, let alone the 8 years to complete the standard Jami‘ah missionary program.

The process at that time was that once a student was ready for their missionary work, they were determined to be either domestic or foreign missionaries. Domestic missionaries reported to the Sadr Anjuman and foreign missionaries reported to the Wakil-e-Tabshir of the Tehrik-e-Jadid Office. I was the latter and my salary of 50 rupees per month was paid out of the Tehrik-e-Jadid Office.  In fact, none of the foreign missionaries during my enrollment in Jami‘ah completed the full Jami‘ah program, including Kunze, who was a German already enrolled, but left at the same time I did.

There are several examples of outstanding missionaries who similarly did not complete the formal Jami‘ah course such as Bashir Orchard of Glasgow.””””

See, Perseverance, See page 159.

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Ahmadiyya marketing schemes offend the entire planet!!!!!!!!!

In Ahmadiyya, their Jihad is to sell their religion like a product, thus Ahmadi’s have been radicalizedAhmadi’s are brainwashed to believe by the Mirza family that if anyone stops them from selling their religion, it is an infringement on human rights and the basic idea of religious freedom.  This is why and how Ahmadi’s cry persecution against all countries that stop Ahmadi’s from selling their product, i.e. that MGA was a prophet and the messiah.  Ahmadiyya offends everyone, even Pakistani-Christians.  Its not just Muslims who are offended.  Further, Ahmadi’s go out of their way to promote their religion and can’t be trusted in any democratic country, since they will be promoting Ahmadiyya issues above everything else.

Advertising Standards Authority assesses dozens of complaints over ‘Messiah has come’ billboards

The Ahmadi Shura process is a sham!!!!!!!!!!

Ahmadiyya INC has a process wherein any and all topics can be discussed at the National level of any country, inside the Ahmadiyya movement that is.  This is a comical attempt to essentially sell people Chinese democracy and pass it off as democracy. The jamaat’s shura system is not an openly deliberative method of decision-making, it’s a place for older men to make minor changes at a time, method and speed of their choosing. After all, this poster and so many others (including Mirza Masroor Ahmad) have made clear so many times that the jamaat is not a democracy, but a divinely-guided institution that doesn’t really care so much about what people want.

Its institutions aren’t set up to care about what people want. Anyone who actually wants to change the jamaat is going to be brow-beaten, pressured and harrangued. Anyone who’s there is really only going to be concerned with minor changes. This is a body for and by older men. If you think that separate shura for lajna and khuddam mean anything, why not agree to a separate Parliament in the UK for Muslims or a separate National Assembly in Pakistan for Ahmadis? This Ahmadi National Assembly in Pakistan could then make non-binding recommendations to the actual Assembly which it would promptly file in its circular cabinet.

All Ahmadi shuras are an attempt to give people the illusion that the jamaat is an organization with institutions that is responsive to change and open to discourse. It’s not, at least not with those who want meaningful change in how it operates. It’s interested in going through the motions of this to make some tiny, cosmetic changes, or larger ones if they’re retrograde or if they wouldn’t be out of place in late nineteenth-century Punjab.

Some examples
In the early 2001/2002 time frame, when outlandish bai’at (conversion) numbers were being announced in the tens of millions each year, it was suggested at a local Shura to submit this issue to the national shura (i.e. some kind of recount/investigation into this, to validate the numbers). The local Aamila member who made this suggestion was shot down by another Aamila member who got up incensed at the suggestion that numbers and progress relayed by Huzur in conversions, would even be questioned. It died right there. It never went to Shura for discussion, since it failed at the local level.

A year later, over in another city, this was raised at a local Jama’at meeting, and dismissed as off topic. The local Sadr then privately approached to indicate that he too, had some questions about the conversion numbers, but didn’t want to voice these in front of the flock, as that would put questions in their mind and have potentially destabilizing effects on their faith.

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