Intro
It seems that a Desi man by the name of Talha Chaudhry (his email is national.finance@ahmadiyya.us)(A Waqf-e-Zindighi) and fraudster is working as Secretary of Finance in the USA. He recently told Damon Stengel (on twitter) that the jamaat in in the USA will in-fact, refund him his chanda money and on reddit.
He also told me that he was willing to refund me, on 6-8-24, he emailed and said that he had sent a check (See in the below). He also confessed that he doesn’t consider me his brother and doesn’t have any love towards me, contrary to the Qadiani slogan, “Love For All, Hatred For None”.
Just last week, he sent Damon Stengel his chanda/wasiyyat money. Talha Chaudhary is on reddit as Fabulous_Tank_3822 (u/Fabulous_Tank_3822), he commented recently vs. Damon Stengel.



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Talha Chaudhry
Sat, Jun 8, 9:38 AM (1 day ago)
to me
بسم الله الرحمن الرحيم
Check has been mailed today, the tracking number is 958……….(expected delivery date is Thursday May 13th 2024) inshAllah.
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Vs. Damon Stengel
Scan

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Everything is done under the guidance of Hazrat Khalifa tul Masih ایدہ اللہ تعالیٰ بنصرہ العزیز We all are united on that one hand. Without Khilafat, there is no Jama’at.
Hazrat Khalifa tul Masih Ayyadahullah Ta’ala has been repeatedly asking officeholders to work as servants to membership. Huzoor has given sermons and speeches publicly on it, as well as Huzoor has sent directives to Ameer Jama’at in various times, drawing attention on these things. I have picked couple of sermons, one is from 2003 and the other is from last year. Message have always remained same. If you listen, you will see how much Huzoor cares and loves for membership.
An ex-member of USA Jama’at publicly made a request via twitter and reddit, and then as National Finance Secretary, I believed it was my responsibility that funds are being requested back publicly, that I should respond in same way.
Hazrat Aqdas Masih Maud Alahis Salaam has stated very clearly that he doesn’t chanda from the ones who doubt him. An ex-member of USA Jama’at publicly made a request via twitter and reddit, and then as National Finance Secretary, I believed it was my responsibility that funds are being requested back publicly, that I should respond in same way. Damon quoted Wasiyat, so to re-echo the message, I also shared another excerpt. With that said, my email address is national.finance@ahmadiyya.us, any US Jama’at member who wants his money back, can email me his member code and name, and or if there are others who like to request publicly can do also. Rest assured, I promise and guarantee that funds will be given back inshAllah
I mentioned and replied that she can reach out to us that she in fact didn’t receive it yet, I promise and guarantee that funds will be sent to her within a day or so inshAllah
Yes anyone who is requesting refund, will be given back inshAllah. One can send their name and member code, and will send it inshAllah
There was a request made publicly and we responded requested publicly also. There have been requests previously similar to this, which were received privately, and we responded privately also, without any third person knowing.
I can only speak for USA. If there is USA Jama’at member, and wants refund, he or she can email us the request, we assure that it will be processed in a very expedited manner.
If it is proven that she claimed and we didn’t return, I am assuring you, she will also get the full amount. Need to proof, that she didn’t get the amount she asked. Also if there is anyone else, let me know, we will return each and every penny. When our Master has said, he doesn’t need any money which such a person gives, who has any sort of objection and not full faith in him, then who are we to keep such funds.
Damon- As Asked via Twitter/Reddit, Your Check Has Been Mailed To You Today
بسم الله الرحمن الرحيم
Damon Stengel, in reference to the following message you posted on twitter and also linked on reddit, it is to inform that as per instructions of Respected Ameer Sahib, we are sending you the check in amount of $15,988.31 for all your donations made (Wasiyyat as well as all other heads).
“In addition, I have been a participant in the Ahmadiyya “Wasiyyat” program. With regard to this, I would like to draw your attention to the following instruction in the appendix of the Ahmadiyya booklet Al-Wasiyyat:
If a person makes a Will [i.e.., enters into the Wasiyyat program] [and] then later, due to some weakness in his/her faith, reneges on his/her Will, or abandons this Movmement, then, even though the Anjuman might have taken possession of his/her property in legal terms, it will not be justifiable for it [the Anjuman] to retain control of that property. Rather [the Anjuman] will have to return that entire property because God is not dependent on anyone’s property and in God’s view such property is odious and deserves to be rejected. (Al-Wassiyat, Appendix, instruction number 12; Ruhani Khazain, volume 20, page 325.)
Based on the above I request to please make arrangements tor reimburse me with the payments I have made to the Ahmadiyya Movement over the years in connection with the Wasiyyat program.”
As you quoted portion of Wasiyat, I am also sharing an excerpt of Hazrat Aqdas Masih Maud علیہ السلام to echo the above message, where Huzoor علیہ السلام states “This work is from God Almighty. However He puts it in my heart – whether it is correct or incorrect in the eyes of people – I do it accordingly. Thus, the one who helps me (financially) and then accuses me of extravagance, in reality attacks me. Such an attack cannot be tolerated. The reality is that I do not care for anyone. If all members of the Jama`at came together and stopped paying Chanda, or turned away from me, then the One Who has made a promise to me will create another Jama`at better than them who will possess honesty and sincerity. As Allah Almighty has addressed me saying, “Allah will help you from Himself, such people will help you whom We will have sent revelations to from the heavens.” After this, I do not consider such people whose hearts give rise to suspicions equivalent to even a dead insect. Thus, why should such people rise when I do not force such miserly people to give Chanda whose faith is still incomplete? Only such people can give me Chanda who consider me to be the Khalifatullah with pure hearts, and who believe in all of my activities whether they understand them or not, and who consider objecting to any of my work to be the cause of deterioration of faith. I am not a businessman who keeps account, nor am I the treasurer of any committee to whom I must give account. I say with a loud voice that anyone who possesses even an iota of objection against me or any of my expenses, it is forbidden for such a person to send me even a penny. I do not care for anyone. When God says to me often, everyday in fact, that He is the One Who sends whatever comes. And He never objects to any of my expenses, then who is anyone else to object? Such an objection was also made against the Holy Prophet صلی اللہ علیہ وآلہ وسلم during the distribution of the spoils of war. So I say to you again to tell everyone going forward, that I swear to you by the God Who has created you, that anyone who entertains such notions should never send anything to me for this Community for as long as they live. Then see what our condition will be. After this oath, I have nothing more to write.” (Malfuzat Volume 4 page 249-250 1988 edition)
The check has been sent in certified mail today.
Signed by
Talha Chaudhry
Finance Secretary
USA Jama’at
So you were basically hypocrites and true colors came out. I hope you become courageous and leave Jama’at, rather stay within for something you don’t have any faith or belief in.
Hope your children who married out of their choice can now raise pious progeny, so they are not hypocrites within Jama’at but speak truth openly and leave Jama’at, which would happen regardless. Just wait and see.
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Links and Related Essay’s
USA-Guatemala-Part-4.pdf (pressahmadiyya.com)
This history of #Ahmadiyya in the #USA – ahmadiyyafactcheckblog
https://x.com/talhac122/status/1799217480877084753?s=46&t=HTqZKquoOvKbgoBAF2aQcg
Fabulous_Tank_3822 (u/Fabulous_Tank_3822) – Reddit
AHMADIYYA MOVEMENT IN ISLAM, INC., U.S.A. – ahmadiyyafactcheckblog
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