Intro
There is a super ignorant fake-Ahmadi running around TikTok named Tahir (@yahaji91101), he has been begging me to debate him, however, I don’t talk to duffers as such. Nevertheless, Bro Imtiaz engaged him on 3-25-26. In this discussion, Tahir (@yahaji91101) admitted to being an idiot and thus didn’t answer any question.
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https://youtu.be/HNczWpKdNDs?si=NceEuvMuA6zMDX5r
—0:00 to 3:31, Bro Imtiaz gives an explanation of this discussion.
—3:47, Bro Imtiaz asks Tahir (@yahaji91101) if he is speaking from the “Seerat” (history) of Muhammad (Saw)? Tahir (@yahaji91101) says yes. Bro Imtiaz asked for a summary of what Tahir has previously said.
—4:30, Tahir (@yahaji91101) seems to acknowledge the miraj of Muhammad (Saw).
—5:00, Bro Imtiaz asks for something unique from Tahir (@yahaji91101)’s discussion on Miraj.
—6:40, Tahir (@yahaji91101) doesn’t remember anything unique.
—6:48, Bro Imtiaz asks Tahir (@yahaji91101) if MGA did everything like Muhammad (Saw) in his seerah (history).
—7:00, Tahir (@yahaji91101) says that the “makaam” (level) of Muhammad (saw) is higher than every other person in the history of the world. Tahir (@yahaji91101) says that everything that MGA got, he got it from Muhammad (Saw) and Tahir (@yahaji91101) doesn’t consider anyone at the same level as Muhammad (Saw).
—7:19, Bro Imtiaz informs Tahir (@yahaji91101) that MGA called himself the “Kamal” zill and buruz of Muhammad (Saw) and this is what the Ahmadiyya Movement believes. Bro Imtiaz explains that the only way that MGA can be the “Kamal” zill and buruz of Muhammad (Saw) is if he is exactly like Muhammad (Saw).
—8:10, Tahir (@yahaji91101) argues that “Kamal” zill and buruz of Muhammad (Saw) only applies on things like knowledge of the Quran, the spread of Islam, success in this life and etc. Bro Imtiaz explains how MGA claimed to have experienced the miraj in the same way as Muhammad (saw), MGA claimed to be the “Khatam ul Anbiya”, the same way that Muhammad (Saw) did. Tahir (@yahaji91101) refuse to try to make the comparison.
—10:29, Bro Imtiaz asks Tahir (@yahaji91101) if there was any power (sift) of Muhammad (saw), which was not in MGA. Tahir refuses to answer, however, he doesn’t say that Muhammad (Saw) is above all other prophets and MGA got everything from Muhammad (Saw).
—12:00, Bro Imtiaz asks Tahir (@yahaji91101) if Muhammad (saw) is the best (afzal) of all the prophets. Tahir (@yahaji91101) says that he doesn’t compare the prophets.
—12:51, Tahir (@yahaji91101) gets a call from the Qadiani troll team.
—14:21, Tahir (@yahaji91101) returns. Tahir reads off of the script that he just got. Tahir argued that the Quran doesn’t give the proper rank of prophets.
—15:56, Bro Imtiaz asks for clarification, does Tahir (@yahaji91101) believe that Muhammad (saw) is afzal to all prophets? Tahir (@yahaji91101) says that he lacks the proper knowledge. Bro Imtiaz reiterates that Tahir (@yahaji91101) was silent. Tahir (@yahaji91101) asks in what sense? Greater in what sense?
—17:00, Tahir (@yahaji91101) finally admits that Muhammad (saw) is afzal to the prophets. Imtiaz asks you mean “all”? Tahir (@yahaji91101) says that based on 33:40, Muhammad (Saw) is afzal. Tahir (@yahaji91101) says that based on the spread of Islam, he see’s Muhammad (saw) as afzal. Tahir (@yahaji91101) says that based on “miracles” (moijazat), he see’s Muhammad (saw) as afzal. Imtiaz asks about the “miracles” (moijazat), Tahir (@yahaji91101) says that based on the event of miraj and the splitting of the moon. Tahir (@yahaji91101) then says that the entire life of Muhammad (Saw) is filled with “miracles” (moijazat). Tahir (@yahaji91101) even said that the hands/feet/mouth of Muhammad (saw) was that of Allah and during wars.
—20:40, Imtiaz asks if MGA also had these “miracles” (moijazat). Tahir (@yahaji91101) responds by saying that we shouldn’t compare the prophets as such and asks for a verse of the Quran which compares prophets via rank. Bro Imtiaz quotes 2:253 of the Quran (2:254 in the Kadiani Koran).
—21:15, Bro Imtiaz points out 7 arguments that Tahir (@yahaji91101) made to prove that Muhammad (Saw) was Afzal to ALL prophets, Bro Imtiaz then asks if MGA had these also in a zille manner? Bro Imtiaz points out that MGA called himself “Muhammad, the messenger of Allah”. Tahir (@yahaji91101) keeps avoiding.
—23:49, Tahir (@yahaji91101) says that the biggest “miracles” (moijazat) was the Quran.
—24:35, Bro Imtiaz says OK, let’s focus on 4 things, being Khatam ul Anbiya, sending peace on him (saw), miracles like the splitting of the moon and the event of Miraj. Bro Imtiaz asks, did these only happen with Muhammad (Saw), or was there someone else who also did these, based on the seerah of Muhammad (saw).
—27:13, Bro Imtiaz points out how Tahir (@yahaji91101) is refusing to answer. Tahir (@yahaji91101) continues to avoid the question of MGA being just like Muhammad (saw). After being given the verse, Tahir (@yahaji91101) asks again for the verse which allows the comparison of prophets. Tahir (@yahaji91101) says that he is here to learn! He is lying! Tahir (@yahaji91101) says that we should not compare prophets.
—31:24, Bro Imtiaz explains how Muslims aren’t of the habit to compare prophets, however, there are some verses of the Quran which explain the ranks of the prophets, this is what Allah had told us. Tahir (@yahaji91101) admits again that Muhammad (Saw) has superiority over ALL prophets, via the Quran.
—33:00, they are going around in circles.
—37:42, Tahir (@yahaji91101) says that only Muhammad (Saw) is “Khataman Nabiyeen” (Khatamul Anbiya). Bro Imtiaz asks Tahir (@yahaji91101) to reiterates, he does and he confirms that NO ONE has claimed to be “Khataman Nabiyeen” (Khatamul Anbiya) after Muhammad (saw). Bro Imtiaz asks if someone does, are they a liar? Tahir (@yahaji91101) refuses to answer and asks to see if someone has claimed this, he says he needs to look at the details of their claim. Bro Imtiaz asks again…no answer is given again!
—42:15, Tahir (@yahaji91101) gets another phone call. Bro Imtiaz asks, hypothetically, if someone claims to be Allah, is it possible? Tahir (@yahaji91101) says NO.
—45:04, Bro Imtiaz asks again, if someone claims to be “Khataman Nabiyeen” (Khatamul Anbiya) after Muhammad (saw), can they make this claim? Are they true in their claim? Tahir (@yahaji91101) says that only the Quran will solve this. Tahir (@yahaji91101) refuses to answer and goes round and round. Bro Imtiaz gave the sunni position, Tahir (@yahaji91101) refuses to answer and goes round and round.
—50:17, in desperation, Tahir (@yahaji91101) says that everyone is entitled to their own opinion.
Bro Imtiaz gave the sunni position, Tahir (@yahaji91101) refuses to answer and goes round and round.
—52:57, Tahir (@yahaji91101) gets another phone call.
—55:47, Tahir (@yahaji91101) says that if someone claims to be Allah, then the Quran will solve it. Tahir (@yahaji91101) agrees that it will be implausible that someone claims to be God as such. Bro Imtiaz explains how the same issue happens when someone claims to be “Khatam un Nabiyeen” or “Khatam ul Anbiya”.
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