Intro
On Aug-12, 1984, at the Fazl Mosque in London, Mirza Tahir Ahmad seems to have held a lengthy semi-open pre-planned Question and Answer session. It starts off with an Ahmadi questioner who is perplexed over the Ahmadiyya argument on the possibility of prophets after MGA (Hazrat Maseeh-e-Maud). The questioner says that many Ahmadi’s in his circle of friends are also perplexed. The questioner tells Mirza Tahir Ahmad that the Ahmadi argument is that prophethood is a “rahmat” (blessing) and this can’t be stopped. The questioner said that Ahmadi’s are feeling like this in 1984 too, i.e., that after MGA, there will be no prophets. On the same day, Mirza Tahir Ahmad said that Nabiyeena in 4:69 only promises the like-of-prophets.

Mirza Tahir Ahmad then answered by saying that the “like of prophets are NO less than prophets” (1:42 time stamp). Mirza Tahir Ahmad argued that this is an inferiority complex that Muslims are suffering from. Mirza Tahir Ahmad argues that Muslims are the best ummah and thus, their station is much higher than anyone who passed before (this includes prophets, nauozoillah). He argues that only Ahmadi’s know about the high status of Muhammad (Saw). He argued that Ibne Arabi, Shah Wali Ullah and Abdul Qadir Jilani were better than some of the prophets of Israel (naozobillah). He argued that even Bilal was no less than a prophet. Mirza Tahir Ahmad argues that these types of prophets Ibn Arabi, Shah Wali Ullah, Abdul Qadir Jilani and Abu Bakr (ra), Uthman (ra), Ali (ra) Umar (ra) Bilal (ra) will all continue to come (see this clip on TikTok and Twitter). Mirza Tahir Ahmad says that you pick any of the great saints of Islam, and truly and honestly, if you compare them with the prophets of Israel, the older (Israeli-prophets) they look like “pick-me’s” (did he say pygmy? 6:44 time stamp)(this is great disrespect of the previous prophets by Mirza Tahir).

At 11:38, Mirza Tahir Ahmad argues that NO ONE says that NO prophet can come, and a prophet in the fashion of Muhammad (Saw) can also come (like the Buruzi, Zilli and second coming of Muhammad [saw}), however, there is no prophecy about it (see on TikTok and twitter).


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At 7:45, Mirza Tahir Ahmad argues that those type of prophets, who are similar in nature, to the older prophets of Israel, have been coming before and will continue to come. Nobody can stop them! And this is the promised contained in 4:69 (4:70 in the Kadiani Koran). Mirza Tahir Ahmad says that however, they are not called “the-prophets”. Why is their status mentioned to be the same he says? Mirza Tahir Ahmad says that the coming of prophets is NO problem. That type of prophets will continue to come (the likes of prophets).

At 8:44, Mirza Tahir Ahmad argues that only ONE will be called “The Prophet”. Mirza Tahir Ahmad argues that when Muhammad (Saw) came to Earth, the station of prophethood was enlarged. All the previous prophets were now considered simply ulema (naozobillah). Mirza Tahir Ahmad argued that in comparison to Muhammad (Saw), all the previous prophets could not be called prophets anymore (naozobillah). Mirza Tahir Ahmad argued that the definition of prophethood was changed. Mirza Tahir Ahmad argued that only that person would now be called prophet who’s message was global. Mirza Tahir Ahmad argued that MGA is that 1 prophet out of all the Muslims. Mirza Tahir Ahmad argued that this is how and why MGA was given the title of prophet, however a “subordinate-prophet” (ummati-nabi).

At 11:38, Mirza Tahir Ahmad argues that NO ONE says that NO prophet can come, and a prophet in the fashion of Muhammad (Saw) can also come (like the Baruzi, Zilli and second coming of Muhammad [saw}), however, there is no prophecy about it. Mirza Tahir Ahmad argues that Ahmadi’s still don’t negate the possibility (even though there is no prophecy about someone else coming) of prophets.

At 12:06, Mirza Tahir Ahmad argues that as far as he knows, Muhammad (saw) only prophesied about one person, who would be a prophet in stature and would be named a prophet. If Allah chooses another one, it would be the responsibility of the new prophet to prove that he has also been mentioned in the hadith. Mirza Tahir Ahmad argued that the office of prophethood has not finished, only one branch has ended, that is only because we don’t see the mention of any other branch. Mirza Tahir Ahmad argues that the rest of the branches will continue to flourish.

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Links and Related Essay’s

https://youtu.be/j6IZ1-BxZ6s?si=OEre4fQmll_cQ3RB

The Fazl Mosque, London – ahmadiyyafactcheckblog

The Fazl Mosque, London

In 1984, Mirza Tahir Ahmad argued that NO ONE says that NO prophet can come, and a prophet in the fashion of Muhammad (Saw) can also come (like the Buruzi, Zilli and second coming of Muhammad [saw}), however, there is no prophecy about it – ahmadiyyafactcheckblog

In 1984, Mirza Tahir Ahmad said that Nabiyeena in 4:69 only promises the like-of-prophets

MGA lied about the hadith on Muslims being “like the prophets” – ahmadiyyafactcheckblog

MGA lied about the hadith on Muslims being “like the prophets”

https://x.com/DWI_MImtiaz/status/1935292500312506479

Mirza Ghulam Ahmad and Ibn Arabi – ahmadiyyafactcheckblog

Mirza Ghulam Ahmad and Ibn Arabi

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