Intro
Recently, on twitter, Qadiani-Ahmadi Maulvi Farhan Iqbal commented that during Easter weekend, he saw lots of Ahmadi’s at their temples across Canada. In reality, in 2022-2023 fiscal year, the Ahmadiyya Jamaat in Canada spent 38 million, yet only received 28 million via chanda, a -10 million shortfall, nevertheless, they still sent 13 million to the UK to the main Ahmadiyya umbrella charity, AMJI. In 2017, when the “Rana Luqman” scandal was beginning, Maulvi Farhan Iqbal admitted to knowing about the entire case.
Sohail Ahmad (ex-Qadiani atheist) responded and exposed Maulvi Farhan Iqbal for his lies.
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Farhan Iqbal on X: “Our critics sometimes make it seem like Ahmadis are leaving the Jama’at in large numbers. Meanwhile, the reality is that our (Good) Friday attendance at Jumuah centers across Canada was so high and unprecedented that we are running out of space in many locations.” / X (twitter.com)
Our critics sometimes make it seem like Ahmadis are leaving the Jama’at in large numbers. Meanwhile, the reality is that our (Good) Friday attendance at Jumuah centers across Canada was so high and unprecedented that we are running out of space in many locations.
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Response by Sohail Ahmad
I don’t think people are formally resigning from the Jama’at in ‘hoards’.
From Imtiaz and Adnan’s perspective, and as others have mentioned, people may not seem to be *leaving* the Jama’at because prayers in Ramadhan on Good Friday (a holiday) means people who cannot be as open about their disbelief are still going to show up at Jama’at events.
Anecdotally speaking, many people with young adult children I know of in the Jama’at, unbeknownst to the parents in many cases, have mentally checked out. I’d conservatively put this as half (or more) of the families in the West.
However, for social and emotional reasons of not wanting to create difficulties for their parents, they will stick around in some form, still on the Tajneed lists for at least another 20-30 years in the majority of the cases. It is their children who won’t get registered.
So, for any of these anecdotal observations and trends any of us try to put our finger on, the reality of it won’t really be objectively visible for another generation. But I’m sure we will get strong hints by looking at chanda collection levels (% paying, and amounts).
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Response by Farhan Iqbal
Ok. Thank you for stating clearly what you feel about our growth. I have seen you make such predictions in the past but then later you seemed to deny it. I have screenshot your projection above for the next 20-30 years. I hope you and I are both around in 25 years to see the results. In my understanding, the opposite is going to happen. All of our numbers and metrics are up. Jumuah attendance on a holiday is only one metric. Chanda payers have consistently been rising for the last two decades (a figure I’m privy to). Chanda amounts are also rising consistently. There is absolutely no metric showing that half of the young adults in Western families have checked out mentally. Our youth conference last year had record attendance and we are on a clear path to beat that record this year. Nevertheless, true knowledge of everything is with God. Let’s see if in 20 years, you are right or not.
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Sohail Ahmad
Regarding: “I have seen you make such predictions in the past but then later you seemed to deny it.” I don’t think you’re reading carefully. Can you point me to one prediction whose time frame has already passed, and my subsequent denial? I think you are confusing me with someone else. I absolutely look forward to us revisiting this in 25-30 years. You’ll have access to the official data that I don’t, of course. But you don’t even share your % of adults on tajneed who pay chanda. We could already extrapolate trends from the last 10 years if you want to open up your database. That would still be conflated by parents who pay for their adult children who have checked out (I get many of those accounts first hand). Having people show up at a youth conference, a Juma’ah, or a Jalsa means little given how most people who disbelieve stay quiet about it for family reasons. Your conversion numbers in Canada, including those for marriage, consistently hover around 100 per year, do they not? So large (or even growing) attendance figures are primarily due to immigration of Ahmadi Muslims from other countries, and/or birth rates. Not the ‘compelling truth’ of your religion’s claims winning critical thinking hearts and minds.
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Ahmadiyya chanda numbers
Roughly 33% goes to the UK.
2019: $23,024,884.00
2020: $25,913,747.00
2021: $29,696,991.00
2022: $29,621,941.00
2023: $28,218,574.00
T3010 Registered Charity Information Return (cra-arc.gc.ca)
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Links and Related Essay’s
Who is Maulvi Farhan Iqbal? – ahmadiyyafactcheckblog
In 2022-2023 fiscal year, the Ahmadiyya Jamaat in Canada lost 10 million – ahmadiyyafactcheckblog
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