Intro
Per Atif Mian, he was born in Nigeria in 1974, this is strange, there were many Pakistani-Ahmadi’s living there in 1974, and other desi men, but why was his father in Nigeria? Nevertheless, he moved back to Pakistan before the 1980’s and went to school in Lahore in the 1980’s and early 90’s. Mian alleges that he got a scholarship to study in the USA at M.I.T., which is a Top-10 university in the entire world. He arrived in 1993.
It should be noted that by 2024, Mian has not written about Ahmadiyya beliefs at all. He seems to have distanced himself from Ahmadiyya.
While in college at M.I.T. (1993-1995 era), Mian met an old friend from high school, Hamid Sheikh, who was an Ahmadi. Mian had known him for over eight years but never knew that he was an Ahmadi (1983-1991 era). Mian alleges that his impression of Ahmadi’s at that time was quite negative, formed largely by the general social attitude towards Ahmadi in Pakistan. In his mind Ahmadiyya Community was some weird cult devoid of common sense. Mian alleges that he was given 2 books to read by Hamid Sheikh (who is nowhere to be found in 2024), Islam’s Response to Contemporary Issues by the Fourth Khalifa, and his biography, “A Man of God”.
In 1996, he earned a bachelor’s degree in mathematics with computer science from the Massachusetts Institute of Technology, and he completed his doctorate in economics at MIT in 2001.
After 9-11-2001, the famous terrorists attacks, he seems to have converted to Ahmadiyya in haste. (See ““”””By the Dawn’s Early Light: Short Stories by American Converts to Islam By the Dawn’s Early Light: Short Stories by American Converts to Islam First published in the United States of America in 2009 Published by: Majlis Khuddamul Ahmadiyya USA An Auxiliary of the Ahmadiyya Muslim Community 15000 Good Hope Road Silver Spring, Maryland 20905 USA””” (see page 90). He worked as a faculty member at the University of Chicago (2001–2009).
Atif Mian doesn’t give any proper reason for leaving Islam. He has been totally silent on Jesus in India, the eclipses and many other classic irregularities with Ahmadiyya. Just like Dr. Salam.
In 2011-2014, Atif Mian was living in the SF Bay Area and teaching Economics at UC Berkeley. The author of this website (Dr. Shah), met him in 2012-2013 at the Baypoint Ahmadiyya temple and asked him about what it takes to get hired at a California Community College, of which he had no idea.
In 2016, he gave a speech at the USA Jalsa, the speech was on the Wasiyyat scam.
In 2023, he was still a Qadiani and working as the National Director of Education for the Ahmadiyya Jamaat (see the photo of a certificate in the below).
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His siblings
He has 3 older sisters, they are all sunni-Muslim.
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1974
He is born in Nigeria.
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1990-1992
He graduates from High School in Lahore and applies for an educational visa to the USA at M.I.T.
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1993
AtifMianCV.pdf (princeton.edu)
In the Fall of 1993, he arrived in the Boston area as a student at M.I.T.
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1996
AtifMianCV.pdf (princeton.edu)
In 1996, he earned a bachelor’s degree in mathematics with computer science from the Massachusetts Institute of Technology. S.B. Mathematics with Computer Science, 1996 (GPA 5.0/5.0).
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1997
AtifMianCV.pdf (princeton.edu)
He switched his major and began taking ECON classes. 4 years later in June-2001, he earned a
Ph.D. Economics, (“Three Essays in Governance and Banking”).
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2001
He was in the USA when 9-11 happened and was disgusted at Islam.
He worked as a faculty member at the University of Chicago (2001–2009).
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2007
Atif Mian (princeton.edu)
Atif Mian co-founded the in 2007, a non-profit research institute dedicated to economic research, teaching and innovation. Atif Mian is also the director of the at the Princeton School of Public and International Affairs.
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2009–2012
He moved to the SF Bay Area and was a Professor of Economics at University of California, Berkeley. He was Jamaat president for the very small Oakland chapter of Qadiani-Ahmadi’s. I personally met him.
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2012—present
He joined the Princeton faculty in 2012.[4]
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2014
Atif Mian on Bhutto and Zia – ahmadiyyafactcheckblog
https://atif.scholar.princeton.edu/blog/line-between-man-and-god
Dr. Atif Mian doesn’t have a clue about global politics. He doesn’t understand how the USA, France, the UK and a few other european nations are bankrupting Africa and all of their puppet governments, of which Pakistan is also included.
House of Debt
Atif is the author of the critically acclaimed book[7] House of Debt (with Amir Sufi, University of Chicago Press, 2014).[8][9] The book argues that debt caused the Great Recession—rather than failing banks, as the Bush and Obama administrations had diagnosed. His book was shortlisted for the Financial Times Business Book of the Year, and it won the Gordon J. Laing Prize of the University of Chicago Press.[4]
In 2014, the International Monetary Fund (IMF) identified Atif as one of twenty-five young economists who it expects will shape the world’s thinking about the global economy in the future.[5]
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2016
Atif Mian was accidentally invited to Mecca, Arabia in 2016 – ahmadiyyafactcheckblog
In 2016, he gave a speech at the USA Jalsa, the speech was on the Wasiyyat scam.
Scans
It seems that the Saudi government was unaware that Atif Mian was an Ahmadi, and invited him to this “International Conference on Islamic Banking and Finance” in Mecca, Saudi Arabia. Saudi Arabia banned Ahmadi’s in the early 1970’s and encourages other Islamic countries to do the same. The Saudi embassy in Nigeria flatly refused to give Ahmadi’s visas in 1973.
Atif Mian visited Mecca in 2016
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UuiidoHxGYg
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2018
Can @AtifRMian be trusted by the Pakistani government and Muslim people? – ahmadiyyafactcheckblog
Recently, Prime Minister Imran Khan has constituted an 18-member Economic Advisory Council (EAC) with the induction of a few world-renowned economists to ensure the availability of best possible professional advice to the government on economic policies. Just a few weeks ago, Professor Atif Mian wrote an op-ed that was published in the Dawn newspaper, in this he gave 3 crucial areas that needed reform in Pakistan’s economic future. However, Atif Mian doesn’t understand that Pakistan was invented solely for the purpose of failing. Pakistan was created by the British as a buffer state, and is thus economically unstable. Pakistan doesn’t have a proper product mix, nor does it generate enough tax revenue to break even, nor has it ever. Nonetheless, we have collected lots of data on this topic and have shared in the below.
Atif was appointed on 1 September 2018 as a member of an Economic Advisory Council formed by Pakistani Prime Minister Imran Khan to provide assistance on issues of economics and finance.[10] However, since his appointment, the government faced criticism from groups opposed to government representation for religious minorities,[11] because of Atif’s Ahmadiyya faith.[12] He was removed from the Economic Advisory Council on 7 September 2018[13] and afterwards council members Asim Ijaz Khwaja and Imran Rasul resigned in protest.[14][15][16]
Atif Mian’s quick removal from EAC due to religious discrimination received worldwide condemnation, including an open letter by leading economists including many Nobel laureates.[17][18] International media outlets such as The Economist and Financial Times also criticised the move.[19][20]
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2021
In 2021 Mian was named a Fellow of the Econometric Society.[21] He received a Guggenheim Fellowship in 2021.
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2024
Why is Atif Mian so confused about the economy of Pakistan? It’s a puppet state! It was made to fail! – ahmadiyyafactcheckblog
https://www.atifmian.com/p/fiscal-dominance-when-the-body-attacks?r=7fw89&utm_campaign=post&utm_medium=web
Atif Mian is always confused on the bone head decisions being made in Pakistan, this is because he doesn’t understand that Pakistan is a puppet government of the west and purposely made to fail.
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The full story
Atif Mian Chicago, Illinois "The greatest gift of Ahmadiyya teachings is that they introduce you to the true concept and reality of God." I was born in Nigeria in 1974 but grew up mostly in Pakistan. Looking back at my life, I have to admit that I have been extremely fortunate in many ways. I had the most loving and caring parents who sacrificed a lot for the education and proper upbringing of their children. I was the youngest in my family, with three older sisters. So you can say I was spoiled once by my mother and three times by my sisters. I would describe our household as moderately religious. My mother constantly taught me the value of good morals. I remember having a sense from a fairly young age that I was expected to do the "right thing," i.e. tell the truth, respect elders, not be extravagant, and so on. My parents paid great attention towards their children's education. They commuted long distances for six years just so we could go to school in Lahore where education standards were higher. When I was finishing my high school, my father encouraged me to apply to the U.S. for college. Luckily I got admitted to MIT and joined there in the fall of 1993 as a freshman. Life at MIT was quite difficult in the beginning. Classes were tough, language was a bit foreign, and culture was very different. There were adjustments to be made at many levels. It was perhaps the result of exposure to alternative ways of life, or perhaps the natural consequence of a maturing mind that I began to ponder seriously about the pre-suppositions of life that a child grows up with. I had been raised as a Muslim with a strong emphasis on the belief in God. I had never questioned what I had been taught thus far, but this now turned out Short Stories by American Converts to Islam 91 to be an uneasy compromise. Should I believe in Islam simply because fate had me born into a Muslim family? Why should one take religion seriously when its primary determinant seems to be the flip of a coin that decides which family one is born into? Why should one put so many constraints on life because of a God that may or may not exist? The questions were many, but I struggled with finding acceptable answers. At the same time the conventional understanding of Islam seemed more and more intolerant and irrational to me. Muslims who advocated on behalf of Islam enthusiastically split hairs when it came to religious dogma, and yet seemed oblivious to the basic tenets of justice, tolerance and human civility. For example, otherwise sane looking people would actively support the idea that anyone who chooses to leave Islam should be condemned to death. I was beginning to be put off by religion. It was around these early years in college when I found out that an old friend of mine from high school, Hamid Sheikh, was an Ahmadi Muslim. I had known him for over eight years but never knew that he was an Ahmadi Muslim. My impression of Ahmadi Muslims at that time was quite negative, formed largely by the general social attitude towards Ahmadi Muslims in Pakistan. In my mind Ahmadiyya Community was some weird cult devoid of common sense. Therefore, when I found out that a good friend of mine was an Ahmadi Muslim, I was quite surprised. At this point, however, I was less interested in the finer details of differences between Ahmadiyya Islam and Sunni Islam teachings. I had enough trouble trying to understand religion at a basic level and did not care much about complicated sectarian discussions. So I badgered Hamid with some general questions about God, religion and the purpose of man's creation. We had some discussions, and Hamid gave me two books to read: Islam's Response to Contemporary Issues by the Fourth Khalifa, and his biography, A Man of God. I had been searching for a logical and humane approach towards religion but was disappointed with what I had found thus far. However, reading Islam's Response to Contemporary Issues was a totally refreshing experience. I was not yet ready to say that I believed in a particular religion, but I remember saying to myself after reading the book that if there ever were a religion worthy of following, it must look like the one described in that book. I loved the way the Fourth Khalifa approached religion. He spoke with the precision of a scientist. He always began with "first principles" and then gradually built his case through the rules of logic. There was also a deep sense 92 BYTHE DAWN'S EARLY LIGHT of love, compassion and humanity in whatever he wrote or said. It is hard to express it in words, but I fell totally in love with his personality. The Ahmadiyya Muslim Community began to provide me with the answers that I had been searching for. But conviction of the heart and mind are two separate issues. There were always more questions that I could have asked. At what point do I draw the line between skepticism and belief? I did not know the answer to this question. I was also perturbed by the idea of praying for myself. How could I do that if I were not willing to call myself a believer? Wouldn't that be hypocritical? Even selfish perhaps? And then there was the chicken and the egg problem. If one needs to have faith to pray sincerely, and must pray sincerely to have faith, where should I begin? My solution to these conundrums was that I could only pray to a possible God. I would pray that if You are truly there then guide me to what is right and what is true. In my heart I already had the suspicion that the truth might be Ahmadiyya. Therefore, afraid that I might stay away from it because of the social sanctions against it, I would add that I was willing to pay whatever price it took to find and accept the truth. Over the next few years, I continued to read whatever I could on Islam Ahmadiyya. I did not discuss this much with others. I preferred to study on my own instead. The web was a great tool for me. Alislam.org, the Community's website, was just beginning to develop and I must have been one of its most voracious consumers at the time. My greatest attractions were the "Q&A" sessions conducted by the Fourth Khalifa, as well as his sermons. I could spend hours listening to him. While I found the message of the Ahmadiyya Muslim Community very attractive, I was extremely repulsed by the attitude of orthodox clerics towards the Community. How could they lose all sense of humanity and prevent Ahmadi Muslims from practicing their faith in Pakistan? How could man become arrogant enough to decide who is a Muslim and who is not, as a matter of law? It was because of such attitudes of orthodox clerics that I never took them seriously in their allegations against the Ahmadiyya Muslim Community. After finishing my undergraduate education at MIT, I decided to pursue a doctorate in Economics, also at MIT. I finished my PhD in 2001 and moved to Chicago to start my first job as an Assistant Professor at University of Chicago. While I was in Boston, I had stopped going to the local mosque for a long time because I could not pray behind an Imam who condoned an intolerant interpretation of Islam. There was an Ahmadiyya mosque near Boston but it Short Stories by American Converts to Islam 93 was far and I did not have a car. So now that I had a car in Chicago, I thought I should look for an Ahmadiyya Muslim mosque. Once I found the local Ahmadiyya Muslim mosque in Chicago, I began going for Friday prayers. I might have done so for the rest of my life without becoming an Ahmadi Muslim. I had already acknowledged that the Ahmadiyya interpretation of Islam was the only one that made sense. Why then go through the hassle of conversion and all the social conflicts that come along with it? After all, what is the line beyond which one says, "I believe"? The human mind is a specialist when it comes to making excuses. However something changed in March of 2002. 1 cannot say how and why. The Holy Prophet Muhammad said that the key to a person's heart is in Allah's hands. So one day Allah changed my heart. There is no other explanation for it. I felt a strong desire that I must sign the initiation form. I had to do it. There was no other option for me anymore. Like a kid in the candy store, I had to have it. My parents were quite unhappy at my decision to become an Ahmadi Muslim. This trial has been the most difficult for me since the last thing I ever wanted to do was to upset my parents in their old age. It is all the more difficult given how much they have done for me. But life ultimately owes its existence to God, and I pray that we may all find peace in Him. While there are sacrifices in the path of a convert, these are overshadowed by the fact that man at his core is a moral being. There is nothing more rewarding than being truthful to one's conscience. The greatest gift of Ahmadiyya teachings is that they introduce you to the true concept and reality of God. Everything that is pure and good is to be found in God. Therefore one can never be truly spiritual unless one tries to get closer to God by developing attributes that are in His likeness: developing compassion for humanity, being sincere, treating everyone with absolute justice, and saying the truth even when it may have negative immediate consequences. When one struggles to become better only to attain closeness to God, God never leaves such a person alone. This is the ultimate lesson of Islam Ahmadiyya and the ultimate gift for a convert. I have been fortunate to serve the Community in various capacities. One of my greatest joys has been the many friendships that I have formed through MKA. I have had the privilege of meeting many remarkable individuals whose sincerity, desire to serve humanity, and selfless dedication to work tirelessly for the good of others, leaves me awestruck. At a time when religion has been distorted to create mayhem in many parts of the world, the Ahmadiyya Muslim Community provides a true picture of what Islam is supposed to be.
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2023
He is still a Qadiani and working as the National Director of Education for the Ahmadiyya Jamaat.
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Atif Mian – Wikipedia
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Atif Rehman Mian (Urdu: عاطف رحمان میاں; born 28 June 1975) is a Pakistani-American economist who serves as the John H. Laporte Jr. Class of 1967 Professor of Economics, Public Policy, and Finance[1] at Princeton University, and as the Director of the Julis-Rabinowitz Center for Public Policy and Finance at the Princeton School of Public and International Affairs.[2] He received a Guggenheim Fellowship in 2021, and was elected Fellow of the Econometric Society in 2021.[3]
His work focuses on the connections between finance and the macro economy.[4] He is the first person of Pakistani origin to rank among the top 25 young economists of the world.[5] In 2014, the International Monetary Fund (IMF) identified Atif as one of twenty-five young economists who it expects will shape the world’s thinking about the global economy in the future.[5]
Early life and education
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Atif grew up and received most of his education in Pakistan before moving to the US for higher education in 1993. He is the youngest in his family and has three older sisters.[6] In 1996, he earned a bachelor’s degree in mathematics with computer science from the Massachusetts Institute of Technology, and he completed his doctorate in economics at MIT in 2001. After working as a faculty member at the University of Chicago (2001–2009) and University of California, Berkeley (2009–2012), he joined the Princeton faculty in 2012.[4]
House of Debt
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Atif is the author of the critically acclaimed book[7] House of Debt (with Amir Sufi, University of Chicago Press, 2014).[8][9] The book argues that debt caused the Great Recession—rather than failing banks, as the Bush and Obama administrations had diagnosed. His book was shortlisted for the Financial Times Business Book of the Year, and it won the Gordon J. Laing Prize of the University of Chicago Press.[4]
EAC appointment
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Atif was appointed on 1 September 2018 as a member of an Economic Advisory Council formed by Pakistani Prime Minister Imran Khan to provide assistance on issues of economics and finance.[10] However, since his appointment, the government faced criticism from groups opposed to government representation for religious minorities,[11] because of Atif’s Ahmadiyya faith.[12] He was removed from the Economic Advisory Council on 7 September 2018[13] and afterwards council members Asim Ijaz Khwaja and Imran Rasul resigned in protest.[14][15][16]
Atif Mian’s quick removal from EAC due to religious discrimination received worldwide condemnation, including an open letter by leading economists including many Nobel laureates.[17][18] International media outlets such as The Economist and Financial Times also criticised the move.[19][20]
Recognition
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In 2021 Mian was named a Fellow of the Econometric Society.[21] He received a Guggenheim Fellowship in 2021.[22] In 2014, the International Monetary Fund (IMF) identified Atif as one of twenty-five young economists who it expects will shape the world’s thinking about the global economy in the future.[5]
References
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- ^ “Home | Atif Mian”. Scholar.princeton.edu. Retrieved 2018-09-03.
- ^ “People | The Julis-Rabinowitz Center for Public Policy and Finance”. Jrc.princeton.edu. Retrieved 2018-09-03.
- ^ “Congratulations to our 2021 Fellows | The Econometric Society”. http://www.econometricsociety.org. Retrieved 2022-05-08.
- ^ Jump up to:a b c Curriculum vitae (PDF), Princeton University, retrieved 2017-05-21
- ^ Jump up to:a b c IMF Lists 25 Brightest Young Economists, 27 August 2014
- ^ “Man With A Mission: Princeton Economist Atif Mian – IMF F&D”. http://www.imf.org. Retrieved 2022-05-08.
- ^ “House of Debt | Atif Mian”. Scholar.princeton.edu. Retrieved 2018-09-03.
- ^ Akst, Daniel (May 28, 2014), “Book Review: ‘House of Debt’ by Atif Mian and Amir Sufi”, The Wall Street Journal
- ^ Summers, Lawrence (June 6, 2014), “Lawrence Summers on ‘House of Debt'”, Financial Times
- ^ PM Khan forms 18-member Economic Advisory Council, September 1, 2018
- ^ “Atif R. Mian’s appointment: Moment of truth for Imran Khan”. The News. 5 September 2018.
- ^ “‘We will not bow to extremists’: Govt hits back after vicious campaign targets Atif Mian”. Dawn. 4 September 2018.
- ^ Chaudhry, Dawn.com (7 September 2018). “Under pressure govt backtracks on Atif Mian’s appointment; removes economist from advisory council”. DAWN.COM. Retrieved 7 September 2018.
- ^ “EAC loses one more Ivy League professor after Atif Mian”. The News. 7 September 2018. Retrieved 7 September 2018.
- ^ “Asim Ijaz Khawaja, leading international economist quits Pakistan EAC as protest”. Times of Islamabad. 7 September 2018. Retrieved 8 September 2018.
- ^ “Imran Rasul resigns from EAC in solidarity with Atif Mian”. The Express Tribune. 8 September 2018.
- ^ “Top 90 economists, 8 Nobel laureates support Atif Mian over EAC’s removal”. http://www.thenews.com.pk. Retrieved 2022-05-08.
- ^ “Announcements | Timur Kuran”. Retrieved 2022-05-08.
- ^ Stacey, Kiran; Bokhari, Farhan (2018-09-10). “Imran Khan criticised for axing Ahmadi adviser”. Financial Times. Retrieved 2022-05-08.
- ^ “Pakistan’s new government betrays the Ahmadi minority”. The Economist. ISSN 0013-0613. Retrieved 2022-05-08.
- ^ Congratulations to our 2021 Fellows, The Econometric Society, September 22, 2021, retrieved 2021-10-29
- ^ “Atif Mian”. John Simon Guggenheim Memorial Foundation. Retrieved 2022-05-08.
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Links and Related Essays
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https://ahmadiyyafactcheckblog.com/?s=Zafrullah+Khan
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September 11, 2018 at 6:30 am
Mr Atif appears not to tell the correct story of his conversion.
The main differences between the main stream Muslims and them is that the mainstream believes firstly Mohammad (SAW) is the last of the Prophet and that Holy Jesus Christ was resurrected.
Ahmedis believe that Mohammad is not the last Prophet. And that Jesus ( SAW) is dead and will not be resurrected.
With these two differences in founding and basic believes they are considered apostates by Muslims.
Having said that – all the remaining aspects of Islamic faith are the same. So when he spoke of the belief in God and the purpose of life – then how was the mention of one Almighty God or Allah in Islam any different than what the Ahmedis believe in? And if not then how come he started belief in God by the Ahmedi script which is the same as the main stream Islam? It is possible that the Ahmedi cleric may have dwelled on the existence of Allah in a more profound manner – but he could not have changed the remaining common aspects that describe the existence of God. The basic difference was not on the God but the finality of Prophet hood and the resurrection of the holy Jesus. Where is the discussion of God that comes between his long winding experience.
In between Mr Atif has tugged in phrases which endeavour to preach in a subliminal manner the greatness of Ahmed is thoughts – rather tha what was factual.
September 11, 2018 at 5:51 pm
@nmalik
I agree with you sir. Jesus in India is different also, the concept of the mahdi is also different.
IMHO, Atif Mian left Islam after 9-11, he was embarrassed with being a sunni.
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December 13, 2018 at 11:29 am
There is no mention of Mirza Ghulam Ahmad in his writing. Do he consider him a Prophet? a Mahdi? Maseel e Maseeh? Krishna? or do he consider all claims of MGA truthful?
I understand that he is impressed by explainations to various beliefs given by ahmadiyya but did he contemplated if those explanations are solely product of Ahmadiyya or Sunni Islam. He clearly mentioned that his inability to search answers from orthodox islam was prejudiced by the attitude of Ulamas but should the change of belief be pursued with such a subjective mindset that you give no consideration to others party’s point of view. His clearly presented skewed picture of Islam. An MIT graduate with PhD doctorate couldn’t help finding good names in Sunni Islam? What was Imam Abu Hanifa point of view on Khatam e Nabuwat? Havent he heard of scholars like Molana Maududi or Ghamdi from this age to find answers from sunni islam perpective?
December 14, 2018 at 2:42 am
I agree sir, its strange that he has never commented on MGA academically.
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