Intro
Mirza Nasir Ahmad married a much younger woman in 1982, just a few months before he died. Ahmadiyya leadership is always quickly working on deleting all of this information on this wedding, since its really embarrassing. This was a scenario wherein Mirza Luqman Ahmad was heavily involved, we have heard (see the data in the below) that he wanted to marry Dr. Tahira, however, he was overruled and his father (Mirza Nasir Ahmad) took Dr. Tahira for himself. Thus, shortly after the death of his wife Mansoora Begum, Nasir Ahmad decided to remarry. On 11 April 1982, he married Tahira Siddiqua Nasir, daughter of Abdul Majeed Khan of Verowal. This marriage only lasted a few short months with the demise of Nasir Ahmad on 9 June 1982. The picture in the above is from the marriage ceremony of Mirza Nasir Ahmad to Dr. Tahira. She is still alive and lives in seclusion in Rabwah. In 2021, his grand-daughter, Nisa Al-Nasser reported multiple cases of rape at the Ahmadiyya headquarters in Rabwah and Tilford.
_____________________________________________________________________________________________Mirza Nasir Ahmad’s first marriage
_____________________________________________________________________________________________Read about the Dowry of Dr. Tahira here:
The “Haq-mehr” aka Dowrie of Dr. Tahira, Mirza Nasir Ahmad’s bride in 1982
_____________________________________________________________________________________________Mirza Nasir Ahmad’s Khutbah Juma wherein he talks about his recent marriage–a summary
30 april 1982, in that Khutbah, Nasir is justifying as to why he only gave huq mehr of 1000 rupee to Tahira, by saying that the same was given to his first wife mansoora. But i have found 2 more relevant books, one contains the actual khutba of his nikah of 11 April 1982. I think he gave the khutba of 30 April 1982, as people would have raised objections. the other book is written by nasir 2nd wife tahira, named “hazrat mirza nasir ahmad” this book is worth reading, as it gives insight to, how was their 2 months long married life. he was total control freak, she could not do anything right, he corrected her every minute of the day, tahira did not like drinking milk in the night and he made her drink, he objected on everything. She was educated woman and yet she could not do anything right in his eyes. All this shenanigans about doing istikhara for 40 days, he knew her from her school, college and medical years!
_____________________________________________________________________________________________Summary from Dr. Tahira’s book, “Kahlifatul Masih Alsalis”
Dr. TAHIRA KHAN, second wife of Mirza Nasir writes in her book “Kahlifatul Masih Alsalis” at page 75 onwards that once before marriage she requested Mirza Nasir for an autograph, mirza Nasir under his signature wrote on my auto graph book “may Allah give u the knowledge of reality of commodities.”
She further writes that Mansoora Begum first wife of Mirza Nasir, died on 3rd December 1981. In February 1982, MIRZA Nasir, called my elder brother Col Ayaz Mehmood Ahmad Khan who was residing in Rawalpindi, at his home in Islamabad and said that he wanted to talk to him on a very important matter and intends to have two sittings with him.
In these sittings first thing he said to my brother was that the concept of sacrifice in Christianity is that women become NUNs. But Islam gives different concept of sacrifice. Then he stated the circumstances under which Holy prophet Muhammad s.a.w. married to Aysha r.a. after the death of Hazrat Khadija r.a. In this background Nasir stated about all marriages of Masleh e Moud ( Mirza Mehmood) and the purpose behind these marriages. After this, he said if I ask for the hand of your sister Tahira for me what would be the expected reply of your sister and parents. Then he Mirza Nasir said he intends to make a 40 days ISTIKHARA FROM ALLAH and if Allah permits I would send a formal request to your family for my marriage with your sister Tahira.
Mirza Nasir further said she,Tahira, should shift to home from hostel and start prayers for this relationship. So i shifted to Rabwah on 22nd February 1982. Then huzur Mirza Nasir said to my brother that You are my representative, you and me are one party and Tahira and your parents are the other party.
The evening, when 40 days time line of Istikhara completed Mirza Nasir sent a formal request to my father for his marriage with me in the following words:-
Respected Abdul Majeed Khan Sahib.
Salutations.
In my personal capacity I can spend rest of my life without getting remarried but the responsibilities of Jamaat on my shoulders require an energetic , sincere, and sacrificing partner who could be helpful for me in carrying out my khilafat works. Prayers were made in this regard. Allah accorded his permission and many glad tidings of special blessings for “would be partner” were also received from Allah. My son Luqman has also received permission of his mother in dream that Tahira is a good proposal for me.
Keeping in view of all this, I ask for the hand of Tahira from you with absolute confidence and good conscious and hope you and mother of Tahira would be pleased to accept this proposal with the same gesture.
Signature
Khalifatul masih assalis
Dated: 05.04.1982.
The book also contain an affirmative letter from Dr. Tahira addressed to his father giving her assent to the proposal.
Dr. Tahira continues, we were married on 11April and walima reception was held at the Lawn of Qasr e Khilafat Rabwah on 12 April 1982. The whole function was kept simple only 10 people came as marriage party. we were allowed to invite guests from among our family only.
The scan work
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https://www.reddit.com/r/islam_ahmadiyya/comments/sb0o9y/accused_of_sexual_abuse_by_ms_nida_ul_nasser_who/
ٰIn the biography of Mirza Nasir Ahmad, Tahira Sadiqa wrote:
شادی کے بعد ایک مرتبہ حضور نے مجھ سے فرمایا: “میرے لئےضروری تھاکہ میں جس سے شادی کرتا اسے بچپن سے جانتا ہوتا۔
Once after our marriage, Huzoor (Mirza Nasir Ahmad) said to me: “It was necessary for me to marry someone whom I knew from her childhood.”
Hazrat Mirza Nasir Ahmad by Syeda Tahira Sadiqa Nasir, page 81.
and
In the formal published letter of proposal to Tahira Sadiqa, Khalifa Mirza Nasir Ahmad wrote:
عزيزم لقمان کو اس کی امی نے خواب میں یہ بھی بتایا کہ عزیزہ ”طاہرہ“ اچھا رشتہ ہے۔
Beloved Luqman was also told by his mother in a dream that Beloved “Tahira” is good for marriage.
Hazrat Mirza Nasir Ahmad by Syeda Tahira Sadiqa Nasir, page 80
_____________________________________________________________________________________________While in Islamabad in June of 1982
See here: http://www.reviewofreligions.org/1972/hadhrat-khalifatul-masih-iiiru-some-cherished-memories/
This is from the March-2008 edition of the Review of Religions, by Majeed Ahmad Sialkoti – UK
Huzur’s Last Days
Huzur visited Islamabad for the very last time on the 23 of May, 1982. Huzur was accompanied by Hadhrat Tahira Siddiqa Begum Sahiba, Sahibzadi Amatush-Shakoor Sahiba, Sahibzada Mirza Anas Sahib and Sahibzada Mirza Luqman Sahib, along with their wives and children. With them were members of the delegation having returned from Spain. After the prayers of Maghrib and ‘Isha, I along with a few others had the blessed opportunity to give a massage to Huzur. We were shocked to discover that the veins on Huzur’s legs were very swollen. Huzur told us, ‘Do not worry. This is due to the pooling of blood as a result of the long journey. Also, the work pressure has been intense for the last few days. I have had to remain seated the whole day. Insha Allah, it will be alright.’ We continued to massage Huzur daily, but his condition did not improve much. As soon as Huzur felt even a slight improvement, he would proceed immediately to his office and would work the whole day there, at times pouring over his correspondence, and at others meeting people. There was no time for him to rest. Indeed, Khilafat is not like any worldly post; for the Khalifa of the time has to contemplate and work for the betterment of the Jama’at and the entire world.
Due to the deterioration of Huzur’s health, the last Friday sermon before his demise was delivered in Islamabad by Sahibzada Mirza Tahir Ahmad – who later became Khalifatul Masih IV. This sermon was very short but heavy with anxiety and emotion; it contained a passionate appeal to the Jama’at to pray for the recovery of Huzur. During this Khutbah, the state of anxiety of the Ahmadis of Rabwah was described in such a way that the assembly was filled with profound grief.
On the night between the 8 and 9 of June, Huzur experienced a second heart attack. Mirza Fareed Ahmad Sahib came down and said that we should announce to the Jama’at that Huzur’s condition was now critical. All those who had gathered at Baitul Fazal were extremely anxious and restless. We could see from the faces of Huzur’s sons and other relatives that Huzur’s condition must indeed be exceedingly worrying. Then, at around thirty minutes past midnight, Mirza Fareed Ahmad Sahib came down and, standing on the staircase, signalled with his hand and softly recited the Qur’anic verse: Verily, to Allah we belong and to Him is our return. The whole assembly was so shocked that all were left speechless. Fear and darkness spread over everyone. But God soon showed His mercy once again and brought His beloved Jama’at back into the light of peace and security.
I call Allah as my witness when I say that Hadhrat Khalifatul Masih III(ru) was indeed a most wonderful person, very dear to each and every Ahmadi; it is not possible to state how dear he was to me. Every particle in my body is indebted to his kindness. He was and shall remain most dear to me. He was truly a great Spiritual Leader.
O my Merciful God! Shower Thy mercy most abundantly upon the holy soul of my master and raise him to Thine own Throne of Nearness. Amin.
The inside story
Khalifa III Mirza Nasir Ahmad’s son Mirza Luqman Ahmad had a LOVE AFFAIR with a young beautiful Ahmadi Lady Dr. Tahira (she was student in Fatima Jinnah Medical college, Lahore, Pakistan).
The detail of this affair can be read in a book: Qadianiyyat Aus Bazar Mein by Mateen Khalid.
qad-us-bazar-me
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Mirza Nasir Ahmad was in his LATE SEVENTIES 70’s that one day he saw Dr. Tahira, who was in her EARLY TWENTIES (20’s). Mirza Nasir Ahmad had a CRUSH on her. So, he decided to marry her. In a process to JUSTIFY this marriage where GROOM WAS OLD AND SICK AND IN POOR HEALTH AND BRIDE WAS YOUNG HEALTHY BEAUTIFUL WOMAN, BESIDE BEING 50 YEARS YOUNGER IN AGE, Mirza Nasir Ahmad started making speeches and giving statements and PREDICTIONS/ PROPHECIES that this marriage will bring GLAD TIDINGS/ KHUSH-KHABRAIAN/ BARAKAT etc for his Ahmadi Jamaat.
Well, finally the marriage took place. And the newly wed “Happy” couple went to Islamabad in process to get visa for European countries where they decided to celebrate their HONEY MOON.
Now guess what happened: approximately with in a week of marriage Khalifa III had a heart attack in Islamabad and he died. In Jamaat wife of Khalifas are considered UMMAL MOMINEEN (Mother of the believers) the same way the wives of Holy Prophet Muhammad saws are considered mother of Muslims. Since wife of Khalifa III is MOTHER OF the believers so she was NOT allowed to marry again. As a result a beautiful, fertile age lady, who had all the NORMAL HUMAN FEELINGS had to remain UNMARRIED.
Now lets see the BARAKAT on the Ahmadi Jamaat as a result of their Khalifa III marriage to a more than 50 years younger lady:
(1) Khalifa III died with in few days of marriage.
(2) Mirza Tahir Ahmad became the Khalifa IV.
(3) Mirza Tahir Ahmad had to leave his Jamaat’s LAST strong hold i.e. in Rabwah and had to run for his life to UK.
(4) Jamaat is UPROOTED and BOOTED out of Pakistan, where the jamaat had the MOST population of Ahmadis in the world.
(5) Ahmadi Jamaat got weaker and weaker.
(6) General Zia issued the order XX. That barred Ahmadis from calling themselves Muslim/ give azan/ call their masjids as masjids etc.
(7) Ahmadis from Pakistan got dispersed in the world and the Khalifa is loosing his grip on them with every passing day.
(8) Khalifa IV made the BOGUS claims of millions of convertions every year. It is such a bogus claim that even Mahmudis are ASHAMED of their Khalifa.
The only person who is taking advantage of this marriage between Mirza Nasir Ahmad and Dr. Tahira is the son of Mirza Nasir Ahmad i.e. Mirza Luqman Ahmad. He got his LOVER back and he does not have to marry her either.
Now, interesting thing is that Mahmudis TOTALLY FORGOT ALL THOSE PREDICTIONS/ PROPHECIES OF THEIR KHALIFA III. NOW IF SOME ONE ASKS THEM ABOUT THOSE “BARAKATS” THAT WERE PROMISED TO THEM BY THEIR KHALIFA III, THEY JUST KEEP QUITE AND AVOID THE TOPIC. Looks like they are in deep sleep.
In my opinion more than 70 years old Mirza Nasir Ahmad married Dr. Tahir in her early 20’s because of one of the following TWO REASONS:
(1) Mirza Nasir Ahmad had gone blind in his LUST for her.
(2) Mirza Nasir Ahmad had gone CRAZY.
_____________________________________________________________________________________________Links and Related Essays
How Mirza Basheer-uddin Mahmud Ahmad forcibly married Noorudin’s daughter Amtul Hai in 1914?
Fauzia Faizi confirms that the Mirza family is full of incest and rapists
Mirza Basheeruddin Mahmud Ahmad was raping his own daughter, Amtul Rasheed, in the early 1920’s
Mirza Basheer uddin Mahmud Ahmad was poisoned as a child, then had many mental issues
Bashir Ahmad Misri, Murdered Multani were Correct about Mirza Mahmud in 1937 – Viceroy Papers
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March 13, 2019 at 9:04 pm
LOL!! I find the minds of human beings that have rigid belief systems–whether they be religious, political, or any other type of belief system–to be ridiculously inhuman and unrealistic, ignoring natural things that happen in life.
A 73-year-old man sees a young, beautiful, 25-year-old woman; uses his influence, perhaps, to get her, and….WHAT? Something’s supposed to be WRONG with that? LOL!!! Hell, that’s HUMAN.
And since, as this article claims, she had a lover ANYWAY, what did she lose? She GAMBLED. And she won the gamble. He didn’t live to be 90 years old. Had he, THEN there might be something to bitch about. Also, she made a CHOICE. She didn’t HAVE to marry him, despite any pressure. I know how it works, but I’ll say no more.
GOOD FOR HIM!!! LOL!!! It all worked out. And if she wants to get married again, you can bet your bottom dollar that she WILL leave the Jamaat and marry a sunni–or a Christian, for that matter. The world is now way to big to try to bind someone to one cultural experience.
March 14, 2019 at 4:11 am
@ R. Chism
She wasn’t allowed to marry again. A widow of a Khalifa in Ahmadiyya is not allowed to do so. FYI.
And this story proves that the Mirza family has been taking advantaged of people for 100+ years.
ADMIN
March 14, 2019 at 1:25 pm
Do not think that I was PURPOSELY trying to be offensive. I just wanted to get your attention. Now to my points:
I’m 68 year old. I’ve witnessed, either directly or indirectly, the MISTAKE that people of whatever group, whether it be Hare Krishna, Nichiren Shoshu, Ahmadiyyat, Baha’i, political groups, etc., often make when they allow themselves to forget that, WITHIN THEM lie the “Book of God”–an inner guidance that will steer perfectly IF they listen to it.
Too many people give over their entire selves to the INTERPRETATIONS of others. “God” can always be USED to justify anything. I have witnessed that, when that happens, weak people or people who are really trying to be sincere and please God can be manipulated.
I do understand that she was born and raised in a belief system that she believes and honors. It’s tough, too, because it’s not a Western system. The individual; the family; the neighbors; the GROUP are all tied strongly. To make a move that appear to be outside of that system spells something akin to DEATH–social death. No doubt she felt that she had “no choice,” if she wanted to “stay alive” socially within the group. Or, maybe she even strongly believed.
But, she was wrong. I don’t mean that she was BAD, no. She make a mistake, perhaps (in my opinion). She had a choice. She did. Ultimately she could have refused him, despite the pressures she no doubt felt. Pressure or not, I give her NO EXCUSE. It is way PAST time for human beings to listen to The Voice of God within them. It was Hazrat Isa, alaihe salaam, who said, “The Kingdom of God is within you.” That is PRIME–first.
Now, as regards HKM3, it seems to me that, even Islamically, he had every right to marry her if she accepted. I know what you’re saying: She was under pressure. He took “advantage” of it. But, why not? Tell me, and I’m no expert on Islam. I ask you in a cordial way, not to fight: Was he wrong, Islamically? If he asked to marry a 25-year-old woman, was he wrong Islamically, in your opinion.
If he was not wrong, then he DID nothing wrong. She accepted. I’m 68–happily married for 29 years now. Yet, as happens when a man gets older (and as my big brother prepared me for, decades ago) I WISH BEYOND ANY WORDS that I could have a young woman again. My big brother, decades ago, half-jokingly said the following: “Get ready, little brother. It’s coming! OLD AGE is coming. When that happens, a man begins to feel his mortality very strongly.
“He will want to assure his immortality. And that way that’s DONE, little brother, is through having children. It’s biological and psychological–no man avoids this. He’ll want to pass on his genes. That is a form of immortality.”
It’s true. Of course, I fast on Mondays and Thursdays, to keep my passions–both physical and MENTAL passions–down. But, I have never known a man who DIDN’T desire to have the company of a young woman again, when he got old. In the West, pitiful rich men will BUY young women, and BEG them for even ONE MONTH of their company, telling them, “Even if you see young men, that’s okay. Just give me two days a month.” It’s pitiful. And, since they’re not Muslim, they don’t have a proper focus; they don’t know about the joys of prayer, fasting, reading Qur’an, etc. Muslims might look down on them. I don’t. To see such a man elicits sorry in my heart.
In this regard, I am HAPPY that I am not rich. I tell you, brother, that were I rich, the way I feel now, the temptation to purchase a young woman would be oppressive. I am not sure that I could resist.
I understand clearly what you mean about this young woman now being “unable” to marry again, since she was married to an “Amir-ul-Momineen.” But, brother, that is HER FAULT. Seriously. I don’t care what cultural, community, “religious” pressure she felt, she was FREE to say “NO.” And if, after that, she would have been ostracized, SO BE IT. HKM3 was NOT Almighty Allah. If it meant leaving her community to find another Muslim man, that’s what she should have done. There is NOTHING in Qur’an about not marriying a “non-Ahmadi.”
By the way, I’m not against Ahmadiyyat–not at all. I’m against people acting like SLAVES. I once exchanged letters with HKM4. We ARGUED. Everybody thought I was nuts, or going to be hit by a bolt of lightening. But HE was cool with it. We had a good argument. When I got TOO nasty, he simply said, “I’ll not continue our exchanges if you’re going to get like that.” He didn’t threaten me. He didn’t kick me out of the Jamaat. But, often, people act like leaders are GODS. Not me. Leaders have their function. They are NOT to be worshipped. PERIOD.
I do not participate in the Jamaat–have not done so in many, many years, actually. I do not condemn it. I do not condone it. I got what I wanted, by the Grace & Mercy of Almighty Allah, from the Jamaat. Allah Blessed me, I believe. But, I’m not ordinary. I wasn’t born a Pakistani Ahmadi, feeling that I was trapped; that all my thinking should be done by OTHERS.
Anyway, I DON’T feel sorry for her. And I DON’T condemn HKM3. But, again: Let me know if you feel he did something wrong Islamically. I don’t think that he did, but I’m interested to hear your opinion.
wasalaam,
RD
March 14, 2019 at 3:25 pm
@ Chism
1. I didn’t think that you were offensive at all.
2. I agree with your first 3 paragraphs.
3. In your 4th paragraph, you mentioned that something about “western-culture”? I don’t quite understand. Do you think its superior to Desi culture?
4. She had no choice. She could not refuse the Khalifa, she would have been shamed for the rest of her life.
5. Do you know about their honeymoon? Its a sick story. He died while on this prolonged honeymoon.
6. Per who’s Islam?? Islam isn’t some thing that is easily defined. Governments define Islam. The Ottomans and Mughals are some recent examples.
7. Mirza Nasir Ahmad was wrong for taking advantage of his position of power, he raped this girl for months, then he died of a heart attack abruptly.
8. Then you rave about younger women. I don’t know your circumstances however. I am not sure what to make of these statements.
9. Ahmadi’s would never allow her to marry again..she would be killed. She is still alive.
What questions did I miss?
Islam calls for justice. This was not justice. He was an old and fat man, and lame.
ADMIN
March 14, 2019 at 10:18 pm
Salaam,
I reproduce all of your points below, and then respond:
1. I didn’t think that you were offensive at all.
OKAY.
2. I agree with your first 3 paragraphs.
OKAY.
3. In your 4th paragraph, you mentioned that something about “western-culture”? I don’t quite understand. Do you think its superior to Desi culture?
FIRST OF ALL, I do not know what you mean by “Desi culture.” No, you totally misunderstood my reference to Western culture. Read it again. I was making the point that Western culture DOES NOT HAVE the constraints that a more traditional culture has. At one time, it did. But Western culture has gone down the tubes. I was trying to make the point that she did not live in a culture where she could willy-nilly go do whatever she wanted to do. She lived in a TIGHT, traditional culture, where parents, relatives, neighbors, society-at-large, the Jamaat, etc., would be watching her. Yet, as I said before, she DID have a choice. There is always a choice.
4. She had no choice. She could not refuse the Khalifa, she would have been shamed for the rest of her life.
She would have been shamed if she CHOSE to remain in a situation that she could, instead, leave. She chose to stay in that situation [I’m assuming].
5. Do you know about their honeymoon? Its a sick story. He died while on this prolonged honeymoon.
Sorry, brother, but I don’t deal with such rumors. I doubt that anybody knew a single thing about what happened on their honeymoon. That’s just typical rumor-mongering. And even if she made some statements about something bad happening, what she SHOULD have done is DIVORCE him if she was being abused. I offer NO excuse for people–women or men–to remain in a situation in which they are being abused. But, as I said: I can’t go by rumors.
6. Per who’s Islam?? Islam isn’t some thing that is easily defined. Governments define Islam. The Ottomans and Mughals are some recent examples.
I don’t know what point you’re trying to make here.
7. Mirza Nasir Ahmad was wrong for taking advantage of his position of power, he raped this girl for months, then he died of a heart attack abruptly.
Raped? Brother, if they got LEGALLY MARRIED Islamically, then he didn’t rape her. He had SEX. And if a 73-year-old man could have sex with a 25-year old, then I have a favor to ask you: PLEASE send me whatever homeopathic medicine he used!!! LOL!!!!! I’m 68. And if I don’t perform my Qigong meditation and physical exercise routines regularly, I can FORGET about having sex!! So, be a good brother, if you will: See if you can send me WHATEVER homeopathic medicine he was using. My understanding is that the Ahmad family specialized in homeopathy. Anyway, you told me that they MARRIED. So, how can you call sex in marriage RAPE? Yes, a woman CAN be raped during marriage, rather than be treated decently in normal sex. But, if she didn’t get a divorce, the blame goes on HER, not him. No excuses. I
f she choose to be raped, then she was STUPID. I don’t care about her fear of being ostracized. At some point in a person’s life, they have to STAND UP and defend themelves, I don’t care WHO her husband was. As I told you, I ARGUED with Mirza Tahir, in email, strongly. He respected it, though he was right to tell me to cool down. So, you know, one cannot be worshipping a human being. If she chose to be RAPED, within a marriage, rather than get a divorce, then she was worshipping a human being, which is called shirk. But, I was not there. So, the charge of rape is just a rumor, that’s all.
8. Then you rave about younger women. I don’t know your circumstances however. I am not sure what to make of these statements.
All I was saying is that it is a biological and psychological normality for older men to crave younger women because of the fact that, when you age, you begin to sense your mortality. And young women represent your chance for immortality through passing your genes down by having children by her. It’s purely biological and psychological, not something immoral. So, my point was that it seems to me that ONE reason he was attracted to her is because it is a natural function of the human male to sense his mortality when he gets older, and then crave for a young woman. I has absolutely nothing to do with immorality, or anything like that. Islam makes a way for this by allowing marriage.
9. Ahmadi’s would never allow her to marry again..she would be killed. She is still alive.
I certainly cannot comment about whether or not she would be killed. Again: If death was staring her in the face because of a decision to marry after Mirza Nasir died, then she should have CAREFULLY made a way to go to another country. Women are SMART. They can find a way, I don’t care what the situation is. Again: I can’t comment on this thing about her being killed had she married again. You might know something that I don’t know, but there is no reason I should take your word for that. I would think that you would agree.
What questions did I miss?
I don’t think you missed anything.
Islam calls for justice. This was not justice. He was an old and fat man, and lame.
Well, brother, I seem to recall something, and you can correct me if I am wrong. There is a saying–either in Qur’an or hadith, you tell me which one. That saying goes like this: “Your mate has a right over you. Your relatives have rights over you. Your neighbors have rights over you. The wayfarer in the streets have rights over you. BUT YOU HAVE RIGHTS OVER YOURSELF.”
What that says is that people have the right, and the duty, to TAKE CARE OF THEMSELVES. If that woman FORGET THAT; if she chose to look at him as if he was Allah; if she chose to fear the Jamaat, and its members, over Allah; if she chose to put everybody else’s needs over her own, then she violated the principle of guarding one’s OWN RIGHTS.
Now, one last thing: If this story that you are telling me is true in all its details, then the women of the Jamaat had better learn how to TAKE CARE OF THEMSELVES. And although, in my view, there is plenty of instruction in Islam to guide women to take care of themselves, I offer the following, 3-minute and 19-seconds video produced by Julie Burns Walker, a medial intuitive who has clients all over the planet:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W7DMq20LqTw
In my opinion, and in the opinion of Ms. Walker, whom I know, people have for too long not CHALLENGED that which is handed down to them by parents; by relatives; by their religious leaders; by politicians. There is a degree of PERSONAL RESPONSIBILITY that one must take so that one will not be influenced by the “Core Lore” that Ms. Walker so briefly and correctly spoke about. If Ahmadi women are being abused–if ANY woman is being abused–then she must take are of herself, and not sit back like she’s the “weak, helpless little woman,” even if it means marrying outside the Jamaat.
OR, they can remain SLAVES to Core Lore.
Oh, there IS one more question you did not answer: Was his marriage Islamically legal? I say that it was. What do you say?
ADMIN
March 18, 2019 at 3:48 am
@ Chism
3. She had no choice at all. This was forced upon her.
4. She was only married to the Khalifa for 7-10 weeks, the Khalifa died while on his honeymoon.
6. Governments define Islam, no one else.
7. He used sex drugs just like his father and his grandfather. Its called Zadham e Ishq. Look it up, its on this very blog. She was raped for weeks!! Then the old man died.
8. Brother…I don’t support any man who takes advantage of women.
9. I disagree with the rest of what you wrote
ADMIN
March 18, 2019 at 5:13 am
3. She had no choice at all. This was forced upon her.
She had a choice. She could have refused his offer of marriage. She did not.
4. She was only married to the Khalifa for 7-10 weeks, the Khalifa died while on his honeymoon.
So what? He had no control over when Allah would end his life. And she knew that in advance. She’s not some innocent victim. She KNOWING went into that marriage.
6. Governments define Islam, no one else.
No the do not Allah defined Islam. Your talking pure nonsense.
7. He used sex drugs just like his father and his grandfather. Its called Zadham e Ishq. Look it up, its on this very blog. She was raped for weeks!! Then the old man died.
You were NOT in the bedroom with them, so you don’t know a single thing about what went on between them. You were not there.
8. Brother…I don’t support any man who takes advantage of women.
She VOLUNTARILY entered a marriage. So there was no advantage taken of her by him. I am SO happy I was not raised in WHATEVER country you come from. Because the people from your country are probably like you: spread rumors about things they know nothing about; charge someone with rape when they never saw a person raped; condemn a legal marriage. Maybe that’s why the West keeps BOMBING Muslim countries: Allah’s punishment for violating Islam by turning their BACKS in Qur’an, as you have done by openly and shamelessly violating the teachings that it of Islam. YOU are the culprit here, not HKM3. You might as well fill your plate with pork, and your glass with wine. Why not? Since you SO EASILY violate Qur’an by spreading rumors, you might as well convert to Christianity and eat some pork. You are a disgusting man. May Allah forgive you, before you drop dead and end up in hell.
9. I disagree with the rest of what you wrote
March 24, 2019 at 12:26 am
@ Chism
I disagree with everything you wrote.
ADMIN
March 24, 2019 at 11:35 am
That’s fine. The points have been made. No need for us to continue exchanges.
By the way, I have issues with the Jamaat that, in my view, are bigger than the issue we have been discussing. But, my preference is to not air them in public. In time, Inshallah, those issues will be addressed by Allah.
You have the right and freedom to express your views.
March 24, 2019 at 4:35 pm
Understood sir.
ADMIN