Intro
He was born in Kenya in 1952 to an immigrant Qadiani-Ahmadi family. He grew up in London as a first generation British-Pakistani (mid 1960’s). Maulvi Bashir Ahmad Rafiq recalls seeing a teenaged Rafiq Ahmad Hayat (also spelled Rafiq Ahmed Hayat) and his brother Laeeq Ahmad Hayat in 1965. This must have been at the Al-Fazl Mosque in London. Maulvi Bashir Ahmad Rafiq also explains how Zafrullah Khan taught many lessons.
In 1994, Rafiq Ahmed Hayat (who was the Chairman of MTA), hired Shandy Shah (aka Naseer Ahmad Shah) to help with MTA. In January 1996, Shandy Shah was appointed as Chairman of MTA, by April, MTA was operating 24 hours for the first time. In 2001, Shandy Shah moved MTA to Sky Digital, which seems to be bigger satellite channel. When the Khalifa died in 2003, Shandy Shah was part of the inner circle, with Mirza Luqman Ahmad, Amir bhai and Dr. Noori as they planned how to announce the new Khalifa. Before Mirza Masroor Ahmad was officially elected, he was already giving orders and specifically gave the order to allow MTA to cover the election.
He has been the President of the Ahmadiyya Muslim Association United Kingdom (AMAUK)(since 2000), which is a legal non-profit organization that controls the Ahmadiyya Movement in the UK. Consequently, they send roughly 50% of their monies to their umbrella global non-profit organization, the Ahmadiyya Muslim Jamaat International (AMJI). He is also the CEO of Humanity First. He is also an official secretary with Muslim Television Ahmadiyya (MTA) and the Director at MTA International.
In 2010, thecult.info website did a major expose’ on Rafiq Ahmad Hayat his connections with the Ahmadiyya Movement and several property companies in the UK, headed by a company named Mumbojumbo (A Muslim brother named Fuad Al-Attar did most of the research work). Rafiq Ahmad Hayat is most likely part of a money laundering scheme which involved orders by Mirza Masroor Ahmad (acting in his personal capacity).
He is a Director and Board member of over 7+ companies Spot Property Co. Ltd., Hague Securities Ltd., Rotterdam Properties Ltd., Mayfair & Holland Properties Ltd., Al-Shirkatul Islamiyyah and Hague Investments Ltd. He was also the Director of the Africa Trade & Industrial Corporation Limited company with other Ahmadi’s until 2010, when he resigned.
He responded to the rape allegations of Nida al Nasser in 2021, see herein.
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His brother
Bashir Ahmad Rafiq’s autobiography and website – ahmadiyyafactcheckblog
Laeeq Ahmad Hayat.
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1952
Mr Rafiq Ahmed Hayat (MJW13 Limited) – Director Profile – Endole
Persecuted Muslims Who Love Life in England (rabwah.net)
He is born in Kenya.
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1965
He grew up in London as a first generation British-Pakistani (mid 1960’s). Maulvi Bashir Ahmad Rafiq recalls seeing a teenaged Rafiq Ahmad Hayat (also spelled Rafiq Ahmed Hayat) and his brother Laeeq Ahmad Hayat in 1965. This must have been at the Al-Fazl Mosque in London. Maulvi Bashir Ahmad Rafiq also explains how Zafrullah Khan taught many lessons.
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1994
The life and times of Shandy Shah, the former Director of MTA – ahmadiyyafactcheckblog
In 1994, he got a huge break, Rafiq Ahmed Hayat, who was Chairman of MTA, hired Shandy Shah (aka Naseer Ahmad Shah) to help with MTA. In January 1996, Shandy Shah was appointed as Chairman of MTA, by April, MTA was operating 24 hours for the first time. In 2001, Shandy Shah moved MTA to Sky Digital, which seems to be bigger satellite channel. When the Khalifa died in 2003, Shandy Shah was part of the inner circle, with Mirza Luqman Ahmad, Amir bhai and Dr. Noori as they planned how to announce the new Khalifa. Before Mirza Masroor Ahmad was officially elected, he was already giving orders and specifically gave the order to allow MTA to cover the election.
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Experiences of Rafiq Ahmed Hayat: Current and past positions – MarketScreener
He became a Director and board member of Hague Securities Ltd.
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2000
Experiences of Rafiq Ahmed Hayat: Current and past positions – MarketScreener
He became a Director and board member of Spot Property Co. Ltd.
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2001
Experiences of Rafiq Ahmed Hayat: Current and past positions – MarketScreener
He became a Director and board member of Rotterdam Properties Ltd. and Mayfair & Holland Properties Ltd.
He also has connections with Al-Shirkatul Islamiyyah and Hague Investments Ltd. as a Director and board member.
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2012
Progress of Islam Ahmadiyyat depite the storms of opposition (alislam.org)
English speech by Rafiq Ahmad Hayat, Amir Jama’at Ahmadiyya UK, on Sunday 9th September 2012 at 46th Jalsa Salana UK (Annual Convention of Ahmadiyya Muslim Community).
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2017
He became a Director and board member of Mumbojumboworld Ltd.
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2024
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Persecuted Muslims Who Love Life in England (rabwah.net)
Persecuted Muslims Who Love Life in England
As Friday prayers end thousands of believers stream out of the mosque. Keen-eyed men with Pashtun cheekbones hover by a convoy of cars, many of them wearing the traditional hats of Pakistan’s North-West Frontier province. Were it not for the Tube depot in the background, one could be in that exotic land with its long and sometimes unhappy links with Britain. Departing last, and driven safely away, is Hadhrat Mizra Masroor Ahmad, the fifth leader of the worldwide Ahmadiyya community.
Built on the site of a former dairy in 2003, the Baitul Futuh in Morden, south London, is the largest mosque in western Europe, with capacity for 10,000 people. When I first visit, around 6,000 believers are packed into the complex, bowed in prayer. There is an airport-style X-ray machine by the entrances, something churchgoers might find alarming, although the Baitul Futuh looks lightly protected compared to the Ahmadiyya mosque in nearby Putney.
There was some local hostility when the mosque opened. Religious centres are rarely welcomed by any community, bringing as they do not just traffic and noise but inevitably more believers to the area, and in a neighbourhood inhabited by many people who fled inner London a generation ago there was bound to be difficulty. Yet the Ahmadiyya are nothing if not good neighbours. The mosque’s conference hall is used by various local civic bodies, and every year chocolate is handed out to local people at Eid, a small gesture that nonetheless warms relations. Besides which, the security is not to protect them from BNP supporters.
Ahmadiyya is an Islamic reformist movement that began more than a century ago in British India. Little known outside Pakistan, where half of its ten million followers live, it has nonetheless attracted some attention in Britain for its now annual poppy-selling drive, which raises more than £20,000 a year for the British Legion.
The Ahmadi follow Mirza Ghulam Ahmad, born in the Punjab in 1835, who in 1889 declared himself to be the promised messiah (Imam Mahdi). After his death in 1908 his followers split, with some taking the orthodox Sunni view that there could be no more prophets, and the others, the Ahmadiyya, becoming a new sect. Born on the crossroads of the world’s Western and Eastern faiths, they also see Krishna and Buddha as prophets, and this varied religious palate perhaps explains their instinctive tolerance.
The Ahmadi have had a presence in Britain since 1913. In 1926 money raised by Indian women selling their jewellery paid for the beautiful Fazl mosque in Putney, the oldest purpose-built mosque in London, which was used as a shelter during the Blitz. Today there are 30,000 followers in Britain.
They have always been keen on promoting the positive side of Islam. Many Londoners will recognise the slogan “love for all, hatred for none”, which occasionally appears on buses, but the 21st century has brought a new need for public relations. As Dr Basharat Nazir, the UK press secretary, says: “Since 9/11 people have become frightened of Islam. We recognise and appreciate that. We’re saying there is an issue, but this is not what true Islam is.” He laughs: “When we started collecting for the poppies three years ago people were worried — they thought we were up to something else.”
The Ahmadiyyas believe that Islam has been distorted down the centuries, and in addition to their opposition to religious violence they place great emphasis on questioning and learning. Because of this they came to be highly literate and were disproportionately well-placed when partition came to India.
“We were very much involved in the creation of Pakistan,” says Rafiq Hayat, national president of the Ahmadiyya in Britain. “At that stage the community had a lot of influence.”
All this came to end under President Zulfikar Ali Bhutto, who was “sucked in by the mullahs” and had the Ahmadis declared non-Muslim — something, Hayat says, he had no authority to do. Many Muslims today do not consider them Muslims, although theologically they are perhaps closer to mainstream Islam than, for example, Baptists or Quakers are to Catholic Christianity. Perhaps a better comparison is with mainstream Judaism and Christianity in the first centuries after Christ; maybe the Ahmadiyyas will one day separate to form an entirely different faith.
The irony is that the Ahmadiyyas are exactly what optimistic liberals hope and imagine Muslims in general to be. When Muslims deny them as co-religionists they provide an argument for Westerners who say that Islam is incompatible with secular, pluralist democracies. Many Muslims appreciate this, but there are problems.
Born in Kenya, Hayat came to Britain in the late 1960s when Kenyan Asians were granted British passports after the government there turned on them. He is critical of much of Western foreign policy, especially our cosying up to dictators and Islamists, but he still supports Britain and British troops: “I believe we have to demonstrate loyalty, and poppies are a declaration of loyalty.”
The Ahmadiyya story in Britain demonstrates what went wrong and right with immigration after the war. Newspaper clippings of the opening of the Fazl mosque show a local crowd who came to celebrate and gawp at the curiosity; they’re smiling, curious, and entirely white. Although the BBC constantly tells us that Britain has always been a nation of immigrants, the demographic change of recent years has been remarkable. Under New Labour gross immigration peaked at more than 600,000 a year, and migrants from the Blair/Brown years account for 8 per cent of England’s population. Most of them are settled.
DNA research by geneticists such as Bryan Sykes and Stephen Oppenheimer suggests that the Anglo-Saxons account for about 5.5 per cent of English DNA, the Vikings a slightly smaller figure and the Normans probably around 2 per cent at most. So postwar immigration has made a greater impact on English DNA than all the migrations from the building of Stonehenge to the Great War.
Yet England has had waves of immigrants, most, like the Ahmadiyya, small groups of persecuted minorities. The most famous are the Huguenots, who settled in places like Wandsworth in south-west London, also the first home of the Ahmadiyya; Wandsworth’s coat of arms includes teardrops representing the sadness of the French Protestants at leaving their homeland. They also settled in Spitalfields, in east London, perhaps the only part of England that really does have a long history of migration and which to the diversity industry has become something of a modern-day Walsingham.
Spitalfields would also be settled by another persecuted minority — Russian Jews who fled the tsar from the 1880s onwards. Because both of these groups did well in Britain, and well for Britain, it has become easy to see it all as part of a narrative of one great nation of immigrants, but there are many differences. One is sheer numbers — Huguenots and Jews each accounted for about 1 per cent of the population, so that although there were issues with Jewish settlement in the early 20th century that superficially resemble the concerns of today’s natives, the differences are noticeable. Under Labour, partly because of immigration changes that were made to win favour with community leaders, the total Muslim population of Britain doubled to 4.6 per cent. It will pass 8 per cent before the end of the next decade.
Such numbers are bound to cause difficulties. White Britons are now in a minority in London, Luton, Leicester and Slough. Morden is one of those areas where the majority are leaving, although not on the scale of Barking and Dagenham, where the white British population fell by a third in the last decade, or Newham, where they now account for just 16 per cent of residents.
There have also been some terrible mistakes in the way that migration has been handled. Soon after the Jews arrived in east London a number of prostitutes were murdered by a still unknown male to whom an enterprising journalist (most probably) gave the name Jack the Ripper. Rumour spread around Spitalfields that the killer was a Jew, and the Jews prepared for the worst. Such accusations were nothing new in Russia, and they would inevitably be followed by the authorities unleashing a massacre. But in the morning the city went on as before, and though rumours persisted the newcomers realised that here was a country where the rule of law trumped prejudice and hatred, and minorities could prosper as equal citizens.
It was also a culture with a framework into which immigrants could integrate. Britain’s long-established Sephardic Jewish community, embarrassed by their newly-arrived co-religionists and nervous about the prejudice they might trigger, created the Jews Free School, a quite phenomenonally successful institution which had as its remit that it would take little Poles and Russians and turn them into English gentlemen. And so it did.
A century later, when immigrants from the Commonwealth were arriving in much larger numbers, British culture had changed. It was not that Pakistani immigrants did not want their children to become English gentlemen, but that Englishmen no longer knew of or believed in such an idea. From the 1970s the education system introduced what would become known as multiculturalism, an anti-intergrationist philosophy that encouraged the children of migrants to cling to their own identities. It was a disastrous policy.
Multiculturalism took off outside education, too. One of its many tragedies is that minorities coming to Britain to escape persecution have often met more of their tormentors here, funded by the English. Imagine that, as well as taking in Russian Jews from the 1880s, we had also taken in many more Russian Orthodox, and financially assisted their most conservative leaders, ignoring their inflammatory language with a pat on the head and a “Well, that’s their culture.”
Pakistan’s politics are now intertwined with Britain’s. After Bhutto was overthrown by General Muhammad Zia ul-Haq and then hanged, life became increasingly tough for minorities. “Zia ul-Haq was a fundamentalist,” Hayat says. “He passed a lot of laws that made it difficult. If you want to apply for a passport, you almost have to declare our leader as a heretic. We are worse off than the Christians.” The trouble, as many Pakistanis will tell you, is Saudi Arabia. “They’re the ones creating the biggest problem,” says Hayat. “There were only 200 madrassas when Pakistan came into being. Now there are tens of thousands.” And just as the religion of Saudi Arabia has spread to Pakistan, so the politics of Pakistan are brought to the streets of Britain.
Jamaat-e-Islami, a Pakistani party that opposes secularism, has many ties with the Muslim Council of Britain, which became influential under Tony Blair’s government (the Home Office and MCB even shared the same speechwriter). When Baitul Futuh was opened in 2003 Sir Iqbal Sacranie, head of the MCB, refused to recognise it as a mosque. Hayat says the MCB is “not representing Muslims” in Britain.
And while Baitul Futuh does not enjoy good, or indeed any, relations with neighbouring mosques, it had “a big issue” in particular with one in Tooting. “The imam there was very radical, he was making fatwas against our community,” says Hayat. “The government made it worse, this Tooting mosque got a lot of money.” And this was part of New Labour’s “anti-extremism” initiative. The Morden mosque, in contrast, was paid for entirely by donations.
Such is the intolerance that there were protests by Sunni Muslims against the building of an Ahmadiyya mosque in Walsall, in the West Midlands. “This was the time when minarets were banned in Switzerland, and at the same time there were photographs showing hundreds of bearded men in Walsall with placards saying ‘no mosque’,” says Hayat. There are also problems at universities, with radicalised students boycotting Ahmadi on campus and even making death threats. “You’d be surprised how radicalised some of our universities are,” Hayat remarks.
Most British Muslims, he says, are open-minded, but he adds: “Foreign-born imams are a huge problem, and they’re all Saudi-funded. The Saudis control all the strings in Pakistan, the Saudis are the major cause of conflict, including the syllabus being exported to Islamic schools here.”
Any problems the Ahmadiyya face in Britain are minor compared to those in Pakistan, where attacks are frequent. In May 2010, gunmen opened fire on one of their mosques in Lahore, killing 86 people. So they have to take security precautions in Britain. “We had 7/7 and every week we hear of police bringing people to courts,” Hayat laments.
But none of this deters them from their peace conferences and their charity collections for the British forces, which they will do again this year. They feel honour-bound. As Dr Nazir points out, they want to display their appreciation for Britain. “The poppy is about showing your loyalty. We like it here, everyone is free,” he says. “This is a lovely country.”
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Ahmadiyya and the Mumbo-jumbo Business | Ahmadiyya (thecult.info)
Ahmadiyya and the Mumbo-jumbo Business
After I watched br. Shahid’s video about “Rafiq Hayat’s Mumbo Jumbo: Shirk & Sexismâ€Â  I sent the following email to Rafiq Ahmed Hayat on 9-Dec-2010 and I copied the same to Mirza Masroor himself, Hani Taher of the Arab Ahmadiyya and Mirza Mudassar Ahmed of Majlis Khuddamul Akmadiyya UK. 
Regrettably they neither responded nor took corrective action. As a result I tried to reach Rafiq Hayat at his mumbojumboworld telephone number on 17-Dec-2010. His secretary asked me to call later since he wasn’t available that time; however she confirmed that Rafiq Ahmed Hayat is a director for the company.
I realized later that the secretary was wrong since Rafiq Hayat is not a director for the group though he is a director for all the UK companies which belong to the Mumbo Jumbo group. It seems the secretary herself was confused about this mumbo-jumbo business since all the sub-companies have had the same address and telephone number of Mumbojumboworld.Â
I was puzzled more and more at this mumbo-jumbo thing when I noticed that all the mumbojumboworld companies are related to the Ahmadiyya Jamaat itself and to Al-Shirkatul Islamiyyah Company where Rafiq Hayat works as accountant.
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I wanted to ask Rafiq Hayat:
-Â Â Â Â Â Â What is the nature of the business relationship between Mumbojumboworld and Ahmadiyya Jamaat?
-      Is Mumbojumboworld the place where the Jamaat invests the Chanda money? Do they use the charity arm of Mumbojumboworld to collect a sort of Chanda from non-Ahmadis?
-Â Â Â Â Â Â What is the opinion of Rafiq Hayat about those cartoons published at the site which he had chosen as official website for the companies related to MTA and Ahmadiyya business?
-      Why does the charity business of Mumbojumboworld support organizations like Hineni Jerusalem Committee which focuses on Jewish unity? Is it the same reason why the Mumbojumboworld’s logo is the Star of David?
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I could finally talk to Rafiq Hayat by phone on Monday 20-Dec-2010. However, he denied receiving my email though he was aware about the cartoons issue since he didn’t ask me about their content. When I asked him to comment on the bad cartoons published at the website of his company he sputtered in a throttled voice:  “I am not the owner, this is a big companyâ€.
I asked him to comment as a director of all Mumbojumboworld subsidiaries and as a national president of Ahmadiyya UK. However, before I continue with asking my remaining questions, he said that he cannot give such information through phone! and that I should send my questions to him in writing. Then all of a sudden, the line was switched off after I asked him to confirm his email address since he claimed that he didn’t receive my earlier email.
After few hours I received two emails from Mumbojumbowrld; the first one was from the Admin who apologized about the cartoons and promised that such mistakes will not recur. The second email was from Rafiq Hayat himself.
Unlike his behavior during our telephone conversation, Rafiq Hayat was polite in his email; he claimed that he didn’t read my email earlier since it went to Junk; he also apologized by claiming that our call was accidently dropped. Most likely he realized that his written response would be published.
Rafiq Hayat also clarified that he is not a director for the group. However he said that he has taken up the matter with the management who informed him that the cartoons will be removed immediately from the website.
I sent the following email response to Rafiq Hayat on 21-Dec-2010:
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Unfortunately he didn’t reply till date; however, soon after I sent a reminder on 23-Dec-2010, the cartoons were removed from the website. Interestingly they also removed the email address and the name of Rafiq Hayat from the contact details. Apparently they wanted to keep Mr. Hayat in the shadow; but they forgot to remove the photo of the little Rafiq Hayat and the other photos of Mumbojumboworld great team members.
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Why is Rafiq Hayat hiding? Why doesn’t he want to be connected to Mumbojumboworld though all the companies of this group are related to MTA and the Ahmadiyya Jamaat? Why didn’t he check the content of Mumbojumboworld.com though he had accepted it as the official website for his Ahmadiyya-related companies? Why does he claim now that he doesn’t accept personifing his God in cartoons though he had already accepted the same God Yalaah to be personified in reality?
 
Finaly if Mumbojumboworld is in the business of properties, why was their Youtube channel only busy with supporting Rafiq Hayat’s Islamophobia?
Interestingly they have also closed the account of Mumbojumboworld at Youtube on 23-Dec-2010. Apparently they didn’t know I have taken a snapshot.
23 thoughts on “Ahmadiyya and the Mumbo-jumbo Business”
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Trustees, AHMADIYYA MUSLIM ASSOCIATION UNITED KINGDOM – 299081, Register of Charities – The Charity Commission
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| RAFIQ AHMED HAYAT | Chair |
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| Dr MAQBOOL SANI SETHI | Trustee | 01 July 2022 |
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| MUHAMMAD AHSAN AHMAD | Trustee | 01 July 2022 |
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| NASIM JAMAL | Trustee | 01 July 2022 |
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| Dr ANAS AHMAD RANA | Trustee | 01 July 2022 |
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| IMRAN NASIR ALI | Trustee | 01 July 2022 |
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| IMRAN MEHMOOD SHEIKH | Trustee | 01 July 2022 |
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| MOHAMMED RAFIUDDIN | Trustee | 01 July 2022 |
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| Dr MOHAMMED IQBAL | Trustee | 01 July 2022 |
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| HAFIZ FAZAL RABBI | Trustee | 01 July 2022 |
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| MIRZA KHALIQUE AHMAD | Trustee | 01 July 2022 |
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| ATTA UL QUDDUS | Trustee | 01 July 2022 |
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| Syed Naseer Ahmad | Trustee | 06 April 2021 |
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| Jonathan Charles Butterworth | Trustee | 30 June 2020 |
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| Mohammad Ashraf | Trustee | 30 June 2020 |
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| Mohamed Ahsan Ahmedi | Trustee | 30 June 2020 |
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| Muhammad Ibrahim Ikhlaf | Trustee | 30 June 2020 |
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| Naseer Ahmad Dean | Trustee | 30 June 2020 |
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| Malik Mohyuddin Abdullah | Trustee | 30 June 2019 |
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| Nadimur Rahman | Trustee | 30 June 2019 |
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| ABDUL QUDDUS ARIF | Trustee | 01 November 2018 |
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| DR Ch Ijaz Ur Rehman | Trustee | 01 July 2016 |
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| Mr Mujib Ahmad Mirza | Trustee | 01 July 2016 |
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| FAHIM ANWER | Trustee | 01 July 2016 |
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| Irfan Ahmed Quraishi | Trustee | 26 November 2014 |
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| Nisar Ahmad Orchard | Trustee | 01 July 2013 |
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| Abdul Rasheed Mirza | Trustee | 01 July 2013 |
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| Abdullah Jheengoor | Trustee | 01 July 2013 |
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| Tariq Mahmood Sheikh | Trustee | 01 July 2013 |
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| Irfan Chaudhry | Trustee | 01 July 2013 |
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| SULTAN LONE | Trustee | 29 March 2013 |
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| MASROOR AHMAD | Trustee | 25 April 2011 |
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| FAREED AHMAD | Trustee |
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| MANSOOR AHMED SHAH | Trustee |
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| MOHAMMED NASSER KHAN | Trustee |
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| Dr SHABIR AHMED BHATTI | Trustee |
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Links and Related Essay’s
Tariq Hayat is the son of Rafiq Hayat – ahmadiyyafactcheckblog
Mr Rafiq Ahmed Hayat (MJW13 Limited) – Director Profile – Endole
Ahmadiyya and the Mumbo-jumbo Business | Ahmadiyya (thecult.info)
The following one is for the Cyril & Eve Jumbo Charitable Trust.
Bashir Ahmad Rafiq’s autobiography and website – ahmadiyyafactcheckblog
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OMG…..
Rafiq and Masroor have not an iota of Islam in them. Islam has never vibrated the hearts of men from Qadian or Rabwah, or any Ahmadiyya investment in Africa. These people have disrespected the honor of Muhammad (Saw).
In the past Islam was spread through trade and truthfullness. Also, Muslims didnt charge interest, the dealings of the Muslim world circa 1400 years ago revolved around honor and peace.
Ahmadis appear to think its OK to make money off of interest. Rafiq appears to be a Real Estate guru who makes millions of off interest. And Masrooor…his old buddy from Africa have cashed in on Ahmadiyyat.
Allah will punish these people, we dont have to do anything but be news-reporters.
Rafiq Hayat, Raf, Rafiq Ahmed Hayat, Raf Ahmed Hayat the Peter Mandleson/Mandy of the Ahamdiyya. Hand picked and groomed within Ahmadiyya organisation for the last twenty years, the Amir of the UK….surprise surprise. An example of the “inner circle” at work.
You shamefully cry wolf again and again to the western media. Creating spin and twisting the facts to suit your “persecuted sect” agenda.
Now the spotlight is on you.
How can you and others like you point the finger, when you fall so short of the standard by which you use to judge other people. Issuing edicts that this person is “thrown out of the Jammat” for what ever reason. Isolating families for daring to question where the Chanda money goes….or simply declaring someone out of the fold of “Islam” for non payment. Your arrogant behaviour may work in the insular world of Ahamadiyya, where you are surrounded by “yes men” ready to serve at your beck and call.
Do the hourable thing; resign.
You are a disgrace.
brother Fuad Al-Attar may Allah SWT bless you & reward you immensly for your hard efforts. You have exposed the dirty nature of the seniors of the Qadiani Cult!
Many Qadianis before said to me that brother Shahids video dosn’t prove that Rafiq Hayat has anything to do with that website (standard Qadiani defence stay in denial)… you’ve just rubbed salt into the wounds!
Allahu Akbar!
Ground-breaking and fantastic stuff:
First plagiarism, and now mumbo jumbo — brother Fuad, you are one of a kind.
This is the fruit of the Ahmadiyya ‘hate campaign’ against Muslims of UK.
I went on to the Charity Commission website to see if Rafiq Hayat has been open with his association with Mumbojumboworld and the Ahmadiyya Community. He has not.
The following link should take you to the trustees of one of the many Ahmadiyya charities.
http://www.charity-commission.gov.uk/SHOWCHARITY/RegisterOfCharities/ContactAndTrustees.aspx?RegisteredCharityNumber=299081&SubsidiaryNumber=0&TID=3003980
The following one is for the Cyril & Eve Jumbo Charitable Trust.
http://www.charity-commission.gov.uk/SHOWCHARITY/RegisterOfCharities/ContactAndTrustees.aspx?RegisteredCharityNumber=1097209&SubsidiaryNumber=0&TID=2810592
You will note that when you click on Rafiq’s name on the Ahmadiyya charity page on CC site it states the following:
There are no other charities to display for MR RAFIQ AHMED HAYAT
On the Cyril & Eve Jumbo Trust CC site it states under Raf’s name:
There are no other charities to display for MR RAFIQ AHMED HAYAT
This is simply not the case! We have seen from recent submissions on this site that Rafiq is associated with both charities. AS TRUSTEE. Why fail to disclose this Mr RAFIQ AHMED HAYAT?
Guys, for your sake – honestly, get another hobby in addition to the Ahmadiyya-bashing thing. And I’m seriously not trying to be sassy or anything. But it amazes me how much time and energy you devote to this. You dislike Ahmadi Muslims, that’s fine. You want to accuse them for every kind of sin out there, fine. But to make it your main priority – don’t you think that’s a bit much? If I did something similar, maybe about Christians, I’d get sick of it after a little while. I understand you are driven in your agenda, but there are far worthier agendas to attend to I am sure. Poverty, prostitution, crime, etc that plagues the Islamic world. If you want to help Islam, isn’t that also something that proud Muslims such as yourself should be discussing first? Would prophet Muhammad (pbuh) truly be happy about the kinds of things being said on this website, think about that genuinely please….
Which by the way does not mean I am suggesting by any means that you should stop saying things about Ahmadis or Ahmadiyyat – and I say this as an Ahmadi Muslim that loves every part of her deen. This website has actually HELPED me to understand why it is I love Ahmadiyyat and Khilafat so much. So from the bottom of my heart, jazakAllah for that.
But it just saddens me that you would spend so much of your energy on this. Read a book, take a walk, enjoy the holiday decorations and don’t be so grumpy. Live and let live, la-qum deen o-qum va ‘leya deen, and leave the rest to Allah, no?
And one more thing, you have every right to say whatever you want (fact or fiction) and nobody else has the right to take that away from you. Especially not Ahmadi Muslims. What *you* do not have the right to do is act like you are the custodians of Islam by saying things like “Ahmadis, stop calling yourselves Muslims” which I have seen on the site a few times. Nobody, and nobody, has the right to decide who is and isn’t Muslim. And certainly not some bloggers. I will call myself a Muslim because I believe that there is No God but Allah and Muhammad (saw) is His messenger. God alone will decide whether I am genuine in that claim or not, not you. You don’t have to agree with me but you don’t have the right to take away my right to say what I believe I am. Am I right?
happy holidays.
Nope, you’re not right.
Priorities: It’s lakum deenu kum wa liya deen. There is no “v” sound in Arabic. And there is no ‘qaf’ in that ayah either. We do wish you Ahmadis would take care when transliterating Arabic, because you take no care in translating it. You might not think the Word of Allah important, but Muslims do. While I’m being careful, I’d also remind you that there is no ‘o’ sound in Qur’anic Arabic. The sound is ‘u’. It’s precisely this kind of sloppiness in thinking that let Mirza Ghulam Ahmad fool some of our ancestors.
Your cult’s kalimah includes Mirza Ghulam Ahmad, ours doesn’t. (I can provide the reference if need be…) and Mirza himself considered himself the last Messenger (again, reference available on request) – now given that Muslims recite the kalimah without the conditions that the Ahmadiyya have deceptively imposed, and given that your cult is so tiny, no more than 20k people in this country, your home, who are you as a group to tell 1.5BN Muslims what does and doesn’t constitute Islam?
Ahmadiyya might be a hobby to you, but Islam is not our hobby. Da`wah is not our hobby. It is an obligation on Muslims. We all have very busy lives outside this area, far richer and more full of joy than the life of most Ahmadis, we can assure you of that. You’d know if you joined us.
BTW, your message is completely off topic. Why are you wasting your time here?
thank you for the correction, I never claimed to be an expert on the transliteration of Arabic, which has always been more difficult for me than actual pronounciation. Which does not take away from the importance I give to the Word of God, in any way. And my own “sloppiness” does not indicate a lack of Arabic understanding on the part of Mirza Ghulam Ahmad (as), Shahid.
But in any case, I know my message was off-topic, sorry about that. But that’s all what I wanted to say. And for the record, I don’t think my time here is wasted at all. I thanked you for the way in which you helped me, right?
Nothing more important than the Word of God sister.
You’ve surely seen plenty of evidence, including a recent article that shows Mirza’s Arabic knowledge was restricted mainly to plagiarism and poor grammar with Punjabi mistakes?
Can you present a single argument in defence of Ahmadiyya sister?
@ K
Like the common Ahmadi you know nothing about your own religion. I was in the same boat 4 years ago. The reason these websites were created was to simply put out the word on Ahmadiyyat. The Muslim-world needs to know as to who you people really are. Islam is not a punjabee country club.
Secondly…Ahmadis who want to learn about their own religion can get their best education here. Trust me…I was an Ahmadi for like 25 years, they never told me about Muhammadi Begum, they never told me the truth about the eclipses, they never told me why the split happened.
The Mirza family keeps Ahmadis sooooo busy doing “jamaat-work”, that they never have time to discuss the doctrinal divide with Islam.
FYI: Has their ever been a white-european murrabbi inside Ahmadiyyat? I know of one african-american.
Get the picture?
As I have said in a previous post, this is standard ahmadi tactic, when faced with an avalance of facts do the following
1. Start using abuse (such as the videos demeaning of ak shaikh on you tube) and / or
2. Start shouting slogans…’we are the saved sect, you can defeat us’ and / or
3. Start trying to convince muslims that they should ignore ahmadiyya and spend the time with more productive things.
Right??? and this is coming from a cult that is obssessed with muslims, every speech and leaflet is about demonising muslims and creating hatred towards them, every boring punjabi scripted khutabah of mirza masroor and his murrabi goons, revolved around attacking muslims. Mr Akber is spot on, why dont the go and preach to jews, christians, hindus etc about their messiah instead of coming on fox news to attack muslims?? As long they continue to hijack our religion and demonise us, we have the right to expose their cult.
4. oh and lastly, if all the above is not working they pretend to be muslims and infiltrate muslim groups, forums etc. Which is described in the Quran about the hypocrites, along the lines, when they come to you they say we are muslims. That is exactly what they do, to the letter.
Ahmadis you will notice we dont have any hang ups with Bahais? Why is that? Because they are not a cult and not hypocrites. They say we have a new prophet and that means we have a new religion, honest straightforward deviant religion but not a hypocritical cult.
Ahmadis, no one, an let me repeat, NO ONE, in the world is creating as much hate towards you as your murabbis, because they are attacking muslims on the media without just cause and this is creating immense hatred towards average ahmadis, who dont deserve to suffer because of the actions of liars and hypocrites like rafiq hayat and naseem mahdi. You best get these dogs on a lead if you dont want people to hate your community even more.
Bravo Jess, bravo.
Jess
I do have to express my appreciation for Your post,
and as I have been a Youtuber for some time and engaged in or might I put it more appropriate ; “trying to engage” in communication with followers of Mirza Ghulam, I have to say ;
“Bull`s eye” !
A number of my good Brothers in Islam and me have been facing threats and the alike in our mail-boxes on Youtube…….
and this is indeed sad that they go around shouting ; “Love for all……….” and it is too often shown to be lip-service and not ; “Walking the talk”
And another thing I have noticed is they are good at hitting the “dislike-button” on Youtube-videos exempla gratia of AK Shaikh Saheebs or Brother Shahids ….and then they run away with a speed that not even their backs are seen (even without commenting on why they disliked it….)
A thing that is also seen is their giving “dislikes” to comments on videos so they the comments get “invisible”.
In my eyes this is nothing but the doings of a Cult-mentality.
Right on brother! You have understood their tactics. God save us all from this evil mafia cult.
You forgot one thing, their reply will be replete with the word “metaphorical”.
For 100~ years, the likes of Mirza Tahir Ahmad have spread hatred against Muslims and argued against Islam, using smear-words like ‘Mullah” and spreading misinformation about our faith.
But, the moment the Muslims respond back, its “bashing”?
What I find most ironic is that the Ahmadi religious authorities have been calling Muslims kufaar for over 100 years, but if the Muslims do it back, that’s wrong…
K,
Technically, yes, privately you can call yourself whatever you want — like the Mormons and Jehovah’s Witnesses may call themselves Christians. Having said that, there is no reason for the Qadianis to try to speak on behalf of Muslims or publicly confuse people with ‘Muslims for Peace’ and ‘Real Islam’. Your real mission is to spread the good news that the Messiah has arrived: please go and sell your wares in front of Christians and Jews and Hindus — after all MGA was the ‘Promised Messiah’ and Mahdi and Krishna and (. . . ) for them all. If the Qadianis stick to their core mission, there would be few issues and people would generally leave them alone.
Like any cult, Qadianis are a ‘greenfields’ organisation: strike where little is known about them, confuse simple Muslims, journalists and politicians. When people come to know the reality about them (as in India, Pakistan, Gambia, Russia, Uzbekistan, Kyrgyzstan, Bosnia, Albania, Iran, Syria, Saudia . . . ), move on to greener pastures. As such, with us specialising in the Ahmadiyya, there is no cause more worthy of our time than clarifying Muslim Identity — which is the best use of our collective experience. We enjoy it, and it gives us great satisfaction that we are supporting justice and truth by exposing a corrupt and opportunistic cult.
When does your cult plan to drop 10,000,000 leaflets in Italy asking Catholics to believe in the return of Jesus? What better tabligh than that?
Muslim charities are doing phenomenal work throughout the world, and not by collecting £25 from the pocket money of nine-year-old kids.
Brothers, if you spent more time in Istikhfar, less time trying to dig the dirt on Ahmadiyyat, then may be Allah will forgive your sins. This is what we should all focus on. And if you want to spread the truth about our beloved deen, then perhaps you should focus on practicing it first, by not attacking people who recite the same Kalima as you. I also have two questions:
1) Why has brother Fuad not published a single response from Mr Rafiq Hayyat, although he very much likes to refer to a response in his own words?
2) Brother Shahid, perhaps with all your rhetoric published on the web, you may one day truthfully, and with evidence, share with us the true reason for your expulsion from Ahmadiyyat? Or was your crime so heinous, that no true Muslim would commit such an act? Brother, do you miss your blood family, your wife and your children, who have all disowned you?
May Allah take the pain of hatred from your hearts, and extinguish the fire that burns within you, so that you may be able to live a life of peace….after all Islam does mean peace.
May Allah always bless those who follow the right path, Ameen
Omar,
This blog does not “attack people” anymore than Mirza Tahir used to attack Muslims. It criticizes the false faith called Ahmadiyya that masquerades as Islam. We criticize the religion, not the individual.
I cannot address question 1..
But, your question #2 was pretty offensive and unbecoming of anyone who claims to follow the way of the Prophet SAAWS. Br. Shahid was never “kicked out”, he left the religion on his own accord. The rest of that comment is factually incorrect. Its pretty despicable that you would write such a thing to begin with (unless Ahmadiyya is unable argue against Islam with facts and reason). You have lost the moral high ground.
FYI, Islam does not mean “Peace”, Islam means “Submission”. And its not “Istikhfar” with a kha , its “Istighfar” with a ghayn. I was not going to correct you on that until I read the rest of your comment against my brother in Islam Shahid. But you don’t learn these words in Ahmadiyya, do you? You just learn “Jesus” is a deadman and “I hate Mullahs”.
May Allah bring the followers of Mirza back to following the Prophet Muhammad SAAWS.
@Omar
Please be informed that Rafiq Hayat’s email has included a confidentiality disclaimer prohibiting publishing his email. This is the reason why I asked him in my above-shown email dated 21-Dec-2010 to allow publishing his response. I sent him a reminder on 23-Dec-2010, but still didn’t receive his permission till date.
If you think that Rafiq Hayat would say something else, you may send him a reminder yourself at Rahayat@mumbojumboworld.com
Brother Omar,
Why all the hostility and hate? You criticise brother Shahid for attacking people and then you go and attack him and make a blatant reference to his family. You know nothing of his home situation. Shame on you brother to bring his wife and kids in to this discussion.
Dear Brother Fuad,,,,
You meet so many people every day… you forget most of them but few are still remaining into the heart of your memory….. humans spent too many moments before and they are still counting them till their lives are finished …. again most of these moments will be eraced but few will last ….. Dear brother Fuad,,,, you will be among those hard to be forgotten or eraced from the memories.
I should admit that I am totally ashamed of not doing part of your wonderful jobs in protecting Islam from such disbelievers … from qadianis and their allies … hypocrates, jewish and chrestians.
Your brother for ever …. Abo Mohammed
This is by far the dumbest post I’ve read. Truly, you guys have nothing better to do then to bash Ahmadiyyat. First of all, Rafiq Hayat is the Ameer of UK. He is not a wafe zindagi or life-long devotee to the Jamaat, and hence is allowed to carry on his professional career as a investor or w.e he does. Some Ameer Jamaat of other countries are lawyers and others are doctors etc.
I dont know Mr. Hayat personally, but as you have posted above, he is the director of mumojabo…but only ONE of the directors..and not the sole.
Anyways, as far as the other companies that come up along under MTA international as “related or similar” it is merely because Rafiq Hayat is listed under the Board of Trustees of all the companies that are in the list, including MTA Int. Yes, these might include ones he is personally involved in..So what?
These lists are generated through a “match” system run by computers.
We all know what you guys are trying to imply by such posts.. That the Jamaat leaders are somehow funneling money to their personal investments. C’mon on guys? Seriously. Any money that is collected under a charity is strictly monitored, and audited by government agencies…and so such actions would be impossible.