Intro
The Sunni-version of Islam is as follows, Hadith+Sunnah+the Quran=Islam. It is common sense that the Quran without the hadith/sunnah is incomplete. The Quranists had faded away into the annals of Islamic thought by 1800. However, Sir Syed revived this theory of Islam in the 1870’s. Some of his admirers were Noorudin, Abdul Kareem, MGA and Mufti Sadiq. Sir Syed had even wrote that Esa (as) was never returning (1882) and he denied all concepts of the Mahdi.
Nevertheless, in roughly 1900-1902 (while beefing with Pir Mehr Ali Shah), MGA began claiming that only he knew the authenticity of any given hadith. MGA also claimed that he believed in his own wahi that same way that he believes in the Torah, the Gospel and the Holy Quran (See “Arba’in, online English edition, page 159). Thus, MGA was declaring repeatedly that his God had sent him as the Promised Messiah and has informed him which particular hadith is authentic and which hadith is not, and He has bestowed on him the correct understanding of the Holy Quran, then why should he engage with these people? Check out Bro Imtiaz’s video on this too.
In 1903, via Mawahibur-Rahman (page 117), MGA and his team of writers argued that if an Ayah (verse of the Quran) has dual implication, the meaning presented by MGA is worthier of acceptance. Anything opposed to this is transgression/falsehood and imposture. MGA also said something similar about hadith, since he was Hakam and Adl, only MGA could choose which hadith were authentic or not.
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1902
The evidence that Ahmadis believe Islam= the revelations of MGA+the Quran
(See RK: vol: 19, pg. 140, 1902-1902 era)(“””Ijaz e ahmadi”””)
The Miracle of Ahmad, page 53, Online English Edition
“the basis for our claim is not hadith but Quran and that wahi which comes to us. Yes, in support we also quote those hadith which are according to Quran and do not contradict my wahi. As for the rest of the hadiths, i throw them away like waste paper..”
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Page 138
See RK: vol: 19, pg. 138
The Miracle of Ahmad, page 50, Online English Edition
https://www.youtube.com/live/FK8ljwTiWz4?si=a-Slrrqm6vObVfks
“””On the other hand, even if I am highly accommodating, I would bestow only the status of conjecture to these ahadith, and the same viewpoint is held by the Muhaddithin [scholars of the Hadith]. A conjecture is a statement that might have an element of falsehood in it. So what kind of prudence and righteousness would it be to have one’s beliefs based on conjecture and to do away with the authentic and categorical Word of God? I do not say all ahadith should be set aside like mere rubbish; rather, I say that you should accept those from among them to be authentic that do not oppose or contradict the Holy Quran, lest you be ruined.”””
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Page 139
See RK: vol: 19, pg. 139
The Miracle of Ahmad, page 52, Online English Edition
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1892-1893
Aina-e-Kamalat-e-Islam, Ruhani Khazain, Vol. 5, page-21
https://www.youtube.com/live/0tW1VIZhwVY?si=lF7Nw5pXu8O584Hl
If something is not based in Sharia, whether they get revelations or not, they are a toy of Satan.
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1895
Arya Dharam, Ruhani Khaza’in, vol. 10, pp. 86-87
In 1895, MGA wrote some different things on his formula of what Islam is…check this out:
“Of the other books that are accepted by us the Sahih of Bukhari ranks as the first. All its Ahadith which are not opposed to the Holy Qur’an are in our view authoritative. Next comes Sahih Muslim. We accept its authority subject to the condition that it should not be opposed to the Holy Qur’an and Sahih Bukhari. Next to them are the compilations of Tirmidhi, Ibn-e-Majah, Muattah of Imam Malik, Nassa’i, Abu Da’ud and Dar Qutni, which we regard as authoritative so long as they are not opposed to the Holy Qur’an and Bukhari and Muslim. These are our religious books and these are the conditions under which we accept them….(…)”
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1900
RK, v 17, pp. 454
Authority in Ahmadiyya: Quran & Sunnah or Mirza Ghulam Qadiani
MGA says that his God has sent him as the Promised Messiah and has informed him what hadith are true and which ones are false.
Qadiani official translation (page 159, online English edition of Arba‘in):
“””Did I invite him to have a debate on religious tenets with him and then do his bai‘at? When I have already declared repeatedly that God has sent me as the Promised Messiah and has informed me which particular hadith is authentic and which hadith is not, and He has bestowed on me the correct understanding of the Holy Quran, then why should I engage with these people in a debate on religious tenets, when I have the same firm faith in wahi [revelations] that I have received as I have in the Torah, the Gospel and the Holy Quran? Do they expect me to discard my faith which is based on knowledge by the certainty of experience, and that I should accept their conjectures and collection of false narrations?”””
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1902
[Appendix Tohfah Golarhviyyah, p. 10 footnote, Ruhani Khaza’in vol. 17 p. 51 footnote](See Also, the 2009 online english edition of Tadhkirah).
“””God Almighty has informed me that all these ahadith which are cited [by my opponents] suffer from perversion of meaning or text or have been entirely fabricated. And he who has been commissioned as the Arbiter has the authority to select, on the basis of knowledge bestowed by the Divine, out of the corpus of ahadith those that he deems authentic and reject the others, based on the knowledge bestowed by the Divine.””””
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1903
In 1903, via Mawahibur-Rahman (page 117), MGA and his team of writers argued that if an Ayah (verse of the Quran) has dual implication, the meaning presented by MGA is worthier of acceptance. Anything opposed to this is transgression/falsehood and imposture. MGA also said something similar about hadith, since he was Hakam and Adl, only MGA could choose which hadith were authentic or not.
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1903
Scan from the ROR of May-1903, which also prove the same
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1900, 15th November
Malfuzat-2, page 25, Urdu edition
Online English Edition of Malfuzat-3, pages 28-31
Summary
MGA says that he only can judge which hadith are right or wrong.
Transliteration
“”jo khuda kee taruf say mamur ho kar hakam bun kay aya hai, jo manee quran e shareef kay vo karay gha, vo-hee sahy hoin gay, aur jis hadith ko vo sahy karadayga vohee hadith he gee”.
Translation
“”the person who is sent from God as a “Mamur”, has become the “Hakam” (Judge), whatever interpretations of the Quran-e-Shareef he does, only that will be correct, and whatever hadith he says is true, will be the hadith..”””
Mulfoozat Volume 2, page 25, 2016 Edition, Urdu
“He who has come as a command from God, whatever meaning he interprets in the Holy Qur’an will be correct, and the hadith he declares to be correct will be the correct hadith.”
Online English Edition of Malfuzat-3, pages 28-31
“””I am not an ordinary cleric; rather, my position is similar in nature to the Prophets. Believe in me as a heavenly man and all the quarrels and disputes in which the Muslims are entangled can be settled at once. That interpretation of the Holy Quran is correct which is put forth by the man appointed by God as the Arbiter; and those Hadith which he deems authentic are truly authentic. Otherwise, one can observe that even until today, the disputes that rage on between the Sunnis and Shias have no end.”””
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1903, April 25th
Mulfoozat (Urdu) volume 5, page 89. 2016 edition.
Translation
“”Some of Imam of Ale Hadith consider some Hadith WEAK, and the Ahl al-Kashf through Kashf declare them to be authentic. And they are correct and with the truth. Now let them tell us what we should do. Should we believe God’s inspiration or someone else’s sayings?””
Summary
MGA says why should he follow hadith sciences when he has his own ilham/wahi.
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1909
Nuzulul-Masih, RK, vol. 18, page 424
Authority in Ahmadiyya: Quran & Sunnah or Mirza Ghulam Qadiani
MGA says he is not Hanafi, not Shafi, not Maliki, not Hanbali, not Ja’fari (shia), not Muqallid and not Ahl-e-Hadith. MGA says that why should he listen to these people and their grading of hadith?
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1924
Khutbatay Mahmoud, V-8, (page 457)
Maseeh maoud(Mirza qadyani) use too say that ahadees is a work of a juggler, and juggler brings out from the box whatever he wants
Now there is NO Quran, other than that which was presented by MGA, there is NO hadith, other than that which you see and understand in the light from MGA (Maseeh-e-Maud). Now there is NO prophet, except one who can be seen via the light of Maseeh-e-Maud (MGA), and a baruz of Muhammad (saw), they must go through MGA. If anyone thinks that they can get the light without MGA, they will see nothing.
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2024
https://www.youtube.com/live/FK8ljwTiWz4?si=OXPzsZquTUsOs6VX
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Links and Related Essay’s
Sir Syed Ahmad Khan and the Ahmadiyya Movement – ahmadiyyafactcheckblog
https://youtu.be/AsUxY6GAFnE?si=eRtmaxhr8dHDedpy
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#ahmadiyya #ahmadiyyafactcheckblog #messiahhascome #ahmadiyyat #trueislam #ahmadianswers #mirzaghulamahmad #qadiani #qadianism
October 14, 2017 at 7:55 pm
What a sick and twisted way to present his teachings. I have asked Mr Bashir to explain me how can Hadhrat Isa come back by verses 10:28-29. His immense tactics and sneak attacks are formidable enemies of Quran. He seems to have taken a vouch to stay as far away as possible from Quran. Inna Lillahi Wa inna iliahi Raje’uon.
October 15, 2017 at 12:57 am
@ Nomin
Awwwww….see you dont understand the basic rules of academic honesty. And you have never even heard them. Let me educate you, anytime you Ahmadis present any verse of the quran, we will ask for the official Ahmadiyya interpretation.
Then you cry that we stay away from the quran? What a dummy you are. We want to see what the official Ahmadiyya sources tell us. But again, your brain cant understand this.
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October 15, 2017 at 2:31 pm
“Let me educate you, anytime you Ahmadis present any verse of the quran, we will ask for the official Ahmadiyya interpretation….”
Why!? A mad man! I say Quran, you say Ahmadiyyat. Madness. I say Quran, you say Fraid. Insanity. I say Quran, you say Mahmoud. Craziness.
October 15, 2017 at 4:29 pm
@ Noman
Yes…most ahmadis dont understand our requests. You people are brainwashed to think you are using the same quran that 1.5 billion Muslims us. Not true!!
You people follow the Quran per Mirza Basheer-uddin Mahmud Ahmad…who diverted from MGA…thats probably why you wont be able to find the writings of MGA on any given topic…since they are hidden…and revised by his sons..
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October 15, 2017 at 2:40 pm
Who took your candy boy? That person must have cracked your sweet tooth. Poison flows through your veins. Repent.
October 15, 2017 at 4:30 pm
@ NOman
These are some crazy comments. Only an Ahmadi writes like this. SMH
ADMIN
October 15, 2017 at 2:47 pm
“Let me educate you, anytime you Ahmadis present any verse of the quran, we will ask for the official Ahmadiyya interpretation”…
Then every Islamic Scholar must be asked for a hadith on their commentary of a particular verse…
October 15, 2017 at 4:30 pm
@ Noman
Yes….and FYI…most sunni’s follow and agree with everything in Tafsir Ibn Kathir…
But…your mullahs never taught you that..
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