Ahmadis refuse to us basic ethical standards when reviewing islamic literature. As we all know, Ibn Kathir believed in the physical return of Esa (As)…as well as the substitution theory, he also believed that the Mahdi and Esa (as) are to be two separate people. Ahmadis misquote Ibn Kathir in other ways too.
Ahmadis dont care
Ahmadis dont care about the beliefs of Ibn Kathir. They blindlessly regurgitate the arguments that are spoon fed to them by their vicious mullahs. Obviously, Ibn Kathir held many beliefs that Ahmadis disagree with, he believed in the physicality of the Miraaj, abrogation, etc etc etc.
“Had Moses or Jesus been alive, they would have had to follow me” (Al-Yawaqit wal-Jawahir, p. 240; Fath al-Bayan, vol. 2, p. 246; Tafisir Ibn Kathir, under verse 81 of AI Imran).’
The wording in Tafsir Ibn Kathir is:
لَوْ كَانَ مُوسَى وَعِيسَى حَيَّينِ لَمَا وَسِعَهُما إلا اتِّباعِي
‘If Moses and Jesus had been alive, they would have no choice but to follow me.’
There are certain issues with the narration and its meaning which can be easily understood if one is not preoccupied to believe in something;
1- This narration with a mention of Jesus (PBUH) along with Moses (PBUH) has absolutely no chain recorded anywhere, thus its totally baseless. Truly only the followers of a baseless religion refer to baseless narrations. The proof of burden is upon the Qadianis to show us the complete chain of any such narration that makes a mention of Jesus (PBUH).
2- Even if we, just for the sake of argument, give some consideration to this narration, we have to take it along other narrations on the same lines. Infact there are reliable narrations but they mention Moses (PBUH) only and not Jesus (PBUH). The Holy Prophet (PBUH) said:
لَوْ كَانَ مُوسَى حَيًّا بَيْنَ أَظْهُرِكُمْ مَا حَلَّ لَهُ إِلَّا أَنْ يَتَّبِعَنِي
“If Moses were alive amongst you, he would have had no option but to follow me.”
(Musnad Ahmad 14104. Musnad Abu Ya’la Hadith 2081. Tafsir Ibn Kathir 2/68. Shaykh Hamztul Zain classified it as Hasan in his classification of Musnad Ahmad 11/500 pub. Dar al-Hadith Cairo, 1995)
Now even if we consider Jesus (PBUH) along with Moses (PBUH) in the above narration it still doesn’t go with the Qadiani belief. The Hadith clearly uses the words بَيْنَ أَظْهُرِكُمْ i.e. ‘Amongst you’. This implies that if Moses (PBUH) and Jesus (PBUH) come alive amongst us, they would have no choice but to follow our Last Holy Prophet (PBUH). This way it has nothing to say if either of them is alive anywhere or not. It can only be taken to mean that they are not alive ‘amongst us’ which needs no further proof. Moreover, it is an established belief among Muslims that once Jesus (PBUH) will descend from the Heavens and live ‘amongst us’ he will only follow the Law brought by the Holy Prophet (PBUH).
3- This statement doesn’t say Moses & Jesus, peace be upon them both, are indeed in the same condition. It only stresses that if either of them were in a certain similar situation i.e. if they come amongst us, the Ummah of the Last Prophet (PBUH), they will but have to follow the Holy Prophet in the Law.
All this shows the superficiality and absurdness of Qadiani evidences!
INDEED ALLAH KNOW THE BEST!
Links and Related Essay’s
see here: https://ahmadiyyafactcheckblog.com/2017/09/16/imam-suyuti-on-tawaffa/
And here: https://ahmadiyyafactcheckblog.com/?s=ibn+kathir
Why do Ahmadi’s lie about Ibn Kathir and his comment “””If Moses and Jesus were alive, they would have no alternative but to follow me”””
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