Intro
In 1894, (via RK v.8 p.69; Nur-al-Haq p.50, page 93, online English edition), MGA argued that Musa (as) was alive in heaven, (“lum ya moot”, he did not die).
In 1894, (via Hamamatul Bushra P113), MGA was trying to say that per Muslims, Muhammad (saw) saw Musa (as) whilst on the Miraaj trip and even spoke to him. Thus, Muslims should believe that he also still alive, as well as the rest of the prophets and this is specifically because they were all there in the samaa wattay when Muhammad (Saw) led salaat. In fact, all prophets (all 124, 000) read prayers behind Muhammad (Saw)(See 3:81 of the Quran, 3:82 in the Kadiani Koran). These scans are courtesy of @zafarim786.
In 1902, Mirza said Moses (as) is alive and does hajj every year but Jesus (As) is dead (See Tohfah Golarhviah, RK17, page 100-101).
In 2026 (Jun), during the debate with Shaykh Asrar Rashid vs. Maulvi Razi, at the 2:56:06 time stamp, Shaykh Asrar Rashid quoted MGA’s which is referenced in 3 places. The context of this conversation is 3:144 of the Quran (3:145 in the Kadiani Koran). Shaykh Asrar Rashid was showing a contradiction, on the one hand, MGA alleged that via 3:144 of the Quran (3:145 in the Kadiani Koran) ALL the messengers are dead, however, MGA himself argued that Musa (as) was alive. At 3:00:21, Maulvi Razi accused Shaikh Asrar Rashid of lying about the above quote, Maulvi Razi responded at 3:01:00 and referred to MGA as a “certain person”. Maulvi Razi counter-argued that MGA was referring to Musa (as) being alive in the Barzakh (3:01:15 time stamp).
In 2026 (Jun-26), Sheikh Israr Rashid streamed on his youtube (2:15 time stamp) with a famous ex-Qadiani and explained how in RK v.8 p.69; Nur-al-Haq p.50, page 93, online English edition, MGA wrote about Musa (as) “lum ya moot” (he did not die), however, the Qadiani-Ahmadi’s purposely didn’t translate this part in the Urdu translation. Maulvi Razi alleged that MGA meant that Musa (as) is alive in the Barzakh.
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1894
The quotes, These scans are courtesy of @zafarim786
RK: v.8 p.69; Nur-al-Haq p.50
“This is that Moses, man of God, concerning whom the Quran infers that he is alive, so it is obligatory upon us to believe that he is alive in Heaven and that he is not among the dead.”
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1894
Mirza claims Moses AS is Alive Muhammad SWS met with him
Hamatul Bushra P113,
https://youtu.be/MBEaEC4kZJs (See at the 1:49 minute mark)
“”””Is Eisa (as) alive and Muhammad (Saw) is dead? ……it is thus established that all the prophets (anbiya) are alive in the heavens, then, how is it proven that the life of the Messiah…, does he eat and drink there? Do the other prophets not eat and drink? In fact, Musa is alive per the quran, don’t you read in the quran, don’t worry about your meeting with him….it is thus proven that this verse of the quran was revealed about Musa (as), and it is the ultimate proof that Musa (as) is alive. Because he met Muhammad (saw) in the heavens (Samaa wattay), and alive people never meet dead people.””””
The scan
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1902
Tohfah Golarhviah, Ruhani Khaza’in, vol. 17, page 100-101
Found by Zafar on twitter
Mirza said moses pbuh is alive and do hajj every year but jesus pbuh is dead.
Scan
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Links and Related Essay’s
What is “Hamamatul Bushra” (1893-1894) by Mirza Ghulam Ahmad?
MGA used Christian sources vs. Muslims! That’s not ilzami jawab! – ahmadiyyafactcheckblog
@IslaamWins explains ilzaami jawab vs. the #Qadianis – ahmadiyyafactcheckblog
Muhammad (saw) is prophet #124,000, Esa (as) is prophet number #123,999 – ahmadiyyafactcheckblog
Mirza Ghulam Ahmad and 3:81 of the Quran (3:82 in the Kadiani Koran) – ahmadiyyafactcheckblog
Mirza Ghulam Ahmad and 3:81 of the Quran (3:82 in the Kadiani Koran)
TUHFA-E-GOLARHVIYYAH by Mirza Ghulam Ahmad (1902) – ahmadiyyafactcheckblog
https://www.youtube.com/live/mLWU6SQQYic?si=r3PwJNqtQTKWmdWl
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