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February 2025

Mirza Masroor Ahmad alleges that Mirza Bashir Ahmad disagreed with his brother, the 2nd Khalifa—this is a lie!

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In a recent edition of “This Week with Huzoor”, brainwashed Ahmadi’s appeared from the NW Region of the USA, which is San Jose up to Seattle. Khurram’s boyfriend Zaryab Farooq was there (Intihsar Malhi was there too) and he asked a question that was burning at his heart, that is (8:56 time stamp), Why do Ahmadi Khalifa’s have different opinions? However, he was careful to limit this to “fro-ee” (irrelevant oulier) and “tarikhi” (historical). Zaryab Farooq added that even Ulema in the Ahmadiyya Movement hold different opinions as well as regular Ahmadi’s. Thus, is it permissible to hold a position that the Khalifa disagrees with?

Mirza Masroor Ahmad responds in the most ignorant way possible! He says well, some people read a history book and take a certain point of view, however, some people read a few more history books and have a different view. He says thus, there can be differences in this historical “tarikhi” information and “Baaz Nazarayat” (theoretical matters). However, what does that entail? Mirza Masroor Ahmad then says, however, if a Khalifa has given a “faisala” (final decision), and says: “NO, this is right and there is no “ikhtalaf” (disagreement), and he gives proof, these are my arguments/proofs. And explains that this is why I believe it. Then, at that point, it is better to simply accept it.

Mirza Masroor Ahmad continues and says that just the other day, he was giving a Friday sermon and presented varying opinions. I gave one point of view, it was in these books or those books. Then I have another, then he blabbers, he clearly isn’t very intelligent and failed to make a point. He then says, if someone has proof, they should submit it! AS opposed to spreading it in the Jamaat. Telling them that this was your position and Khalifa of the time said wrongly. Because of this, there will be a fitna. Instead, they should write to the Khalifa, present your proofs, and if it is accepted, then Mirza Masroor Ahmad is willing to accept it. However, if the Khalifa says NO, you said wrongly, I have these daleel for you! Then you should quietly accept it!

Mirza Masroor Ahmad continues and mentions Mirza Bashir Ahmad (the son of MGA, an alim and historian). Mirza Masroor Ahmad alleges that Mirza Bashir Ahmad once said (there is no REF, because this is a lie), that he used to hold different opinions and had ikhtilaf (difference) with the 2nd Khalifa, his eldest brother, Mirza Basheer ud Din Mahmud Ahmad and would write him letters back and forth, until finally the opinion of the 2nd Khalifa, Mirza Basheer ud Din Mahmud Ahmad would be fully accepted.

In the end, this was all a lie, Mirza Masroor Ahmad and his team (which includes Razi) developed this new counter-argument as a way to explain-away the comments on Takfir by Mirza Bashir Ahmad in 1916-1917.

Sohaib Younus was there too.

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Mirza Basheer ud Din Mahmud Ahmad and The Viceroy of India, Lord Chelmsford in 1915

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In 1935, Mirza Basheer ud Din Mahmud Ahmad told Ahmadi’s that the Arab Muslims were taking money from the British. He told Ahmadi’s that 20 years ago (in 1915), he exposed all of this in a letter to Lord ChelmsforViceroy of India from 1916 to 1921 (Al Fazl Qadian, 3 September 1935).

“Many years ago, when Lord Chelmsford was Viceroy of India, the Muslims expressed their concerns that the British government was bringing Arab leaders under their control by providing them financial aid. As the uproar increased, the British-Indian government denied such claims, saying they were not providing any aid to the Arab rulers.

“Muslims felt reassured, but when I investigated, I found that although the Indian government was not providing such aid, but the British government in London was definitely doing so. Ibn Saud was paid 60,000 pounds while Sharif Husein was also paid a certain amount. I wrote to Lord Chelmsford saying that although he was seemingly right, but the facts were otherwise because the British government pays such and such amounts to ibn Saud and Sharif Husein. Muslims will undoubtedly never tolerate the suzerainty of the British government on Arab lands.

“As Lord Chelmsford was a noble person, he replied saying that ‘although what you say is true, but what good can we get out of making this public and rousing their sentiments. However, I can reassure you that the government has no such intentions’.” (Al Fazl Qadian, 3 September 1935)

Also during WW-2 (1917), Mirza Basheer ud Din Mahmud Ahmad met with the Secretary of State for India, Edwin Samuel Montagu, who had travelled all the way from London to India. Mirza Basheer ud Din Mahmud Ahmad drafted a plan and sent it to him through a delegation. Led by Chaudhry Zafrulla Khan, the delegation presented Mirza Basheer ud Din Mahmud Ahmad’s address to Montagu while he was at Lahore.

After receiving this proposal, he had an audience with Mirza Basheer ud Din Mahmud Ahmad. His memoirs of this tour to India were published posthumously by his daughter, titled “An Indian Diary”. Under 15 November 1917, he wrote about Mirza Basheer ud Din Mahmud Ahmad’s proposals:

“They read us a very long document drawn up by the man they call ‘His Holiness’ … which was by far the ablest document we have yet seen.”

He also mentioned his impressions about Mirza Mahmud Ahmad’s personality, stating that “he had a good mind” and that he “had carefully thought out his constitutional scheme”. (ES Montagu, An Indian Diary, published by William Heinemann Ltd, London [1930])

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Why did Mirza Masroor Ahmad meet with Luke Taylor and Sir Ed Davey?

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In Feb-25, Mirza Masroor Ahmad met with Ed Davey (the leader of the Liberal Democrats since 2020). The Liberal Democrats are the 3rd largest political party in the UK. Luke Taylor was there too. But why? What was the real reason? Rishfat? And why didn’t he hold hands?

In reality, both @EdwardJDavey, and Luke Taylor MP @LukeTaylorLD support Israel on a massive scale. This proves that Mirza Masroor Ahmad is working secretly behind the scenes in support of Israel, however, he says the opposite to Ahmadi’s. Similarly, in an edition of This Week with Huzoor (10:40 timestamp)(2025), the Qadiani-Ahmadi Khalifa Mirza Masroor Ahmad was asked a question by Ahmadi’s from Norway. They specifically asked Mirza Masroor Ahmad if it was OK to work at defense companies that supplied weapons to Israel. Mirza Masroor Ahmad essentially said that working at those companies was like the eating of pork which a Muslim could do if he had no other food and about to die (the clip is on twitter and tiktok) and thus approved. A few days later, Al-Hakam summary wiped mention of Israel from KMV’s question/answer about working for arms companies which supply Israel.

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Mirza Masoor Ahmad alleges that Mirza Ghulam Ahmad is included in Darood Shareef (naozobillah)

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In this video, Mirza Masroor Ahmad alleges that Mirza Ghulam Ahmad is included in Darood Shareef (naozobillah)(See the clip on TikTok and twitter). This is also how Ahmadi’s believe that MGA=Muhammad (Saw)(naozobillah).

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Ex-Ahmadi’s Justice Council International

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The mission of Ex Ahmadis Justice Council International is to combat injustice, oppression, and human rights violations faced by individuals who leave the Ahmadiyya Jamaat and embrace Islam. We are committed to advocating for their rights, raising global awareness of these abuses, and holding the perpetrators accountable under the law. Through legal action, national and international collaboration, and persistent efforts, we strive to ensure justice, equality, and the protection of fundamental human rights for Ex Ahmadis. Our ultimate goal is to create a world where no one faces persecution for their beliefs or choices, and where truth and justice prevail.

The first ever press conference of the Ex-Ahmadi’s Justice Council International. Professor Tahir Ahmad Dar, President (Eajci), Azmat Ullah Bhatti, Vice President (Eajci) and Arshad Ijaz, General Secretary (Eajci)(The clip is also on TikTok and Twitter). They also have a youtube channel, it was also reported on KTV.

At Ex Ahmadis Justice Council International, we actively work to protect the rights of individuals who have left the Ahmadiyya Jamaat and embraced Islam. Our efforts focus on several key areas, including the documentation of violations, where we collect and record evidence of injustices, oppression, and human rights violations committed by the Ahmadiyya Jamaat against Ex Ahmadis and other Muslims. We also provide advocacy and legal support to victims, ensuring their cases are presented in legal and human rights forums to seek justice and accountability. Additionally, we conduct awareness campaigns to highlight the systemic abuse and rights violations perpetrated by the Ahmadiyya Jamaat. Furthermore, we engage in policy advocacy to promote legal measures and policy changes aimed at preventing further persecution and protecting the rights of individuals who choose to leave the Ahmadiyya Jamaat. Through these comprehensive initiatives, Ex Ahmadis Justice Council International strives to create a world where justice prevails, and no individual is persecuted for their beliefs or personal choices.

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The Ahmadiyya Movement in Fiji was quoted in K.L. Gillion, “The Fiji Indians: Challenge to European Dominance, 1920-1946”

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In 1977, K.L. Gillion published “The Fiji Indians: Challenge to European Dominance, 1920-1946″. He only quoted Ahmadiyya on one page and gave no references. He alleges that all of his info came from oral tradition. He quoted the Fiji Times and Herald of Nov 21-22-24-26, 1938 in terms of what happened after the Ahmadi’s were banned from all Muslims spaces. Check out my essay on the history of Ahmadiyya in Fiji and on Muhammad Abdullah.

Allegedly, several Fiji Indian Muslims were converted to Ahmadiyya ideas by Muhammad Abdulla, headmaster of the Hidayatul-Islam school at Nausori. Prominent Ahmadiyyas included Muhammad Tawahir Khan, a garage proprietor, transport operator and electricity contractor of Lautoka, the Sahu Khan family of Suva, and X. K. N. Dean. In 1933, in the name of the Fiji Muslim League, they brought out an Ahmadiyya preacher, Mirza Muzaffar Beg, after secret negotiations that angered the older orthodox Muslims. But they were not able to secure control of the League, and formed their own organisation, the Ahmadiyya Anjuman Ishaat-i-Islam. Disputes over the control of mosques and schools continued for some years, accompanied by violence and police intervention on occasion. The orthodox were more numerous, but the Ahmadiyyas had able, educated and wealthy leaders. Muzaffar Beg also angered the Arya Samajists, who protested that they had no champion since the government had refused to allow Srikrishna Sharma to return to Fiji after a visit to India and had also refused entry permits to other known Arya Samajist preachers. But the government did not take sides in these religious and sectarian disputes, and it applied the same treatment to Muzaffar Beg after his return to India.

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Rahmat Mansoor is an Ahmadiyya politician in Bradford, Canada, and working the Ahmadiyya angle

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Rahmat Mansoor (a fraudy real estate agent) is living on an asylum visa in Bradford, Canada and working the Ahmadiyya angle. He keeps trying to get elected in Ward-1 as a Councillor (see his attempt in 2022). In fact, he seems to be working with Councillor Duhaney as he manipulates the citizens of Bradford for the gain of the AMJ-Canada Inc. He lies about everything! I mean everything!

The other Ahmadiyya politician in Bradford, and also a politician, is Munawar Chaudhary who tried to get elected in Bradford to help Ahmadiyya get special treatment and a free hand in building and expansion. However, all of that has failed thus far, but how long will they continue to clash?

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“Truthfulness” Or Falsehood Of Mirza Ghulam Qadiani, Debate-3, Bro Imtiaz (questioner) vs. Saleem Meer (respondent) 1-18-25—-Part-3, 28:32 to ….

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On 1-18-25, Bro Imtiaz debated Saleem Meer on the topic of “Truthfulness” Or Falsehood Of Mirza Ghulam Qadiani. This is part of a 4 series debate. The first was on 1-4-25, Part-2 was on 1-11-25, and Part-3 was today. The final debate is Amir Haq vs. Saleem Meer on the topic of Yuz Asaf, this was supposed to have been done 4 years ago, however, Saleem Meer ran off and refused.

Saleem spoke very disrespectfully about Muhammad (saw)(see herein on twitter and tiktok).

The full review is in the below, check out Part-1 herein, Part-2 herein and Part-3 in pieces herein.

*–my personal notes. 


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Bro Imtiaz vs. Saleem Meer-Finality of Prophethood debate on 1-11-2025

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On 1-11-25, Bro Imtiaz debated Saleem Meer (Qadiani) on the topic of the Finality of Prophethood. This is part of a 4 series debate. The first was on 1-4-25, today was Part-2 and Part-3 is next Saturday (1-18-25). The final debate is Amir Haq vs. Saleem Meer on the topic of Yuz Asaf, this was supposed to have been done 4 years ago, however, Saleem Meer ran off and refused.

Saleem Meer seems to have accidentally said that ALL types of prophethoods have ended (see the clip on twitter).

However, the first 2 hours were textbook Ahmadiyya back-peddling. They discussed the differences between Nabi and Rasul.


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