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March 2022

Who is Amatus Sami-Karim?

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Amatus Sami-Karim seems to be born as an Ahmadi. Per this article, she grew up in the Southside Chicago area and her father (Abdul Karim) was interested in the Nation of Islam (NOI) in the early 1950’s, he seems to have converted to Ahmadiyya and became the president of the Chicago-East Jamaat 30 years later, his name is Abdul Karim, she posted a photo of him in 2022 on instagram. It’s unclear where and how Amatus Sami-Karim‘s mother converted to Ahmadiyya. Her dad worked as a jazz musician and also worked as an imam at a Southside of Chicago temple (on Wabash) where Amatus Sami-Karim spent a better part of her formative years. However, when her parent’s marriage hit the rocks, she went to live with her mum who earned a living as a social worker.

In 2001, she met her future husband Mahershala Ali in roughly 2001 and they fell in love. She began taking him to the local Ahmadiyya temple. This is how and why Mahershala Ali (at the time he was Mahershala Gilmore) became a Qadiani-Ahmadi. IMHO, his conversion story is a total lie, he only joined Ahmadiyya so that he could marry Amatus Sami-Karim. It should also be noted that Mahershala has 2 younger brothers and they are not Ahmadi. His father was also a soul train dancer. I remember seeing Mahershala at the Chino mosque in the mid-2000’s, he even played in a sports tournament through the jamaat, he is an amazing basketball player. He attended the Oakland Jamaat center for many years in the early 2010’s.

Amatus Sami-Karim is also an artist and very liberal. They have 1 child together, a daughter named Bari Najma Ali. Mahershalla laughed about getting alcohol spilled on him in this interview and has posed with many female actresses wherein he is embracing them and played a gay-man in a film and got a huge award for it. So why hasn’t this family been kicked out of Ahmadiyya? They normally kick out Ahmadi’s for attending weddings wherein there is dancing. The reason is that they pay lots of chanda and it would be a public relations nightmare if they ever kicked them out of Ahmadiyya. Thus, you will see the instagram account of Amatus Sami-Karim posting photo’s of vagina and other lewd things regularly with no fear of being kicked out of Ahmadiyya. Moreover, Mahershala Ali has chaired many jamaat events as they used him for marketing and etc.

In 2021, she did a video with Qasim Rashid.

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Mirza Tahir Ahmad claimed that a Khalifa can declare JIHAD, contrary to what MGA said

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This entry was taken from the islam_Ahmadiyya reddit forum. We know that the 2nd Khalifa had contradicted MGA on Jihad in 1947-1948, when Pakistan was created and the Furqan Force was fighting in Kashmir, the 2nd Khalifa authorized offensive Jihad. This totally contradicted MGA and his writing on Jihad and even his poems. Further, we have found a clip wherein Mirza Tahir Ahmad is making the same contradiction (this seems to be from 2000). You can listen to the poem by MGA on Jihad here—MGA’s poem which talks about prohibition of religious wars no fatwa can excuse religious wars because for deen ie Islam it is now Haraam.

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Did Mirza Tahir Ahmad claim to be the #Muslehmaud?

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It seems that Mirza Tahir Ahmad claimed to be a sent one in 2000 at the UK-Jalsa (see at the 2:59:00 mark), this seems to be in terms of the #Muslehmaud prophecy. Technically, we aren’t sure what utterance of MGA is being quoted here. This could be the same things that Mirza Rafi Ahmad quoted.

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The history of Ahmadiyya in Iran

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By 2022, there are NO #Ahmadis in all of Iran. In 1906, in response to the Persian Constitutional Revolution of 1905, MGA and his team of writers fabricated a revelations to the effect that there has been a shaking in the house of the Shah (Urdu ROR of Jan-1906 and Badr and Hakam). 3 years later, and after MGA’s death, in response to the escape of Mohammad Ali Shah Qajar to Russia, Ahmadiyya editors argued in the ROR of July-1909 that MGA was revealed half of the Quranic verse 21:30 (21:31 in the Qadiani Quran) as a prophecy about Iran. However, this alleged revelation isn’t found in any of MGA’s books (only the ROR of 1909). In 1919, the 2nd Khalifa began making statements about setting up missionaries in Bukhara (Bokhara), Iran, Afghanistan and other Arab countries (See the 2nd Khalifa’s address on 3-17-1919, page 104)(see Ahmadiyya British-Jewish connections, page 87). In 1922, the 2nd Khalifa sent Maulvi Muhammad Amin through Mashhad, Iran and into Russia. In 1926, in the Khalifa’s famous letter/book to the King of Afghanistan (Invitation to Ahmadiyya), he mentions the fabricated revelation of MGA about the Palace of Khosroes being shaken (see pages 335).

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The history of #Ahmadiyya in modern day #SaudiArabia

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As of 2022, there are barely 10 #Ahmadi’s in all of Saudi Arabia, they are most likely there on a work contract. Ahmadis are officially banned from entering the country and from performing the pilgrimage to Mecca and Medina. This has led to criticisms from multiple human rights organizations. In 1974, Ahmadi’s were officially banned from even working in Saudi Arabia, listen to Afzal Upal interview an Ahmadi who’s father lived in Mecca in the 1960’s and up til 1974.

In 1891–1893, MGA and his team of writers fabricated a story wherein an arab named Sheikh Muhammad bin Ahmad al-Makki, a resident of Shi’b ‘Amir in the city of Mecca came in contact with MGA and even visited Qadian in 1893. By 1894, MGA and his team wrote an arabic book (Hamamatul Bushra) and sent it to Mecca for distribution. He was never heard of again. This is the same book wherein MGA called Russia and England as DAJJAL.

By 1912, the son of MGA, Mirza Basheer ud Din Mahmud Ahmad went to Mecca for Hajj, along with grand-father, Mir Nasir Nawab. In the ROR of July-1921, it is alleged that 70 people have joined the Ahmadiyya Movement. It is also discussed how 15 Ahmadi’s have performed Hajj, including Fateh Muhammad Sayyal. They also allege that a man named Mir Muhammad Saeed (from Hyderabad) is being sent to help at Mecca. It is also alleged that another Qadiani-Ahmadi murrabi named Mumtaz Ali Khan is also being sent to help. The ROR of March-April-May-1922 reports that an Ahmadi named Shah Wali Ullah is doing good work. They also claim that 250,000 rupees are being spent on tabligh and etc.

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The history of #Ahmadiyya in modern day #Turkey

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In April of 2025, in this video, a Muslim brother explains how a Qadiani-Ahmadi in Turkey tells Muslims to accept Mirza Ghulam Ahmad and stop being a Kafir. Mirza Ghulam Ahmad is a Rasul, and the Messiah of the time, Imam of the time, and don’t be a Kafir by denying him. It is mandatory to accept all Messengers of Allah (See the clip on TikTok and twitter).

By 2022, there doesn’t seem to be any #Ahmadis in Turkey. We have found a mission house, however, this is most likely a single Ahmadi who is allowing the Jamaat to use his address.

Mirza Ghulam Ahmad never recognized the Khilafat of the Sultan of Turkey (aka the Ottoman Empire)(See the ROR of Mar-April of 1916), the 2nd Khalifa acknowledged this fact in a letter written to Charles Hardinge, 1st Baron Hardinge of Penshurst, the 2nd Khalifa also claimed to be a loyal and obedient servant (they also called the Queen-King of England as their temporal Khalifa). In 1904, via the Urdu ROR, MGA posted a revelation wherein he alleged that Turkey would lose and then come back and win. There are no historical events in this era that would make MGA connect himself to the Ottomans as such.

In 1913, the Ahmadiyya Movement was claiming that MGA had a revelation concerning the Ottoman Empire and its fall, via the Balkan War. 3 years later, Ahmadiyya sources alleged in the May-1916 edition of the ROR that MGA predicted the fall of the Ottoman Empire, however, no specific reference is given (see the sub-ref in the below). The Ahmadiyya Movement was always against the Ottoman empire and refused to accept their khilafat. We are building this essay up, and have thus posted a reference in the below from Al-Hakam. The ROR of Mar-Apr-1918 reports that Maulvi Sher Ali wrote an essay entitled, “The Promised Messiah and the Turkish Empire”. In this essay, he argues that MGA predicted the fall of the Ottoman Empire.

The 2nd Khalifa wrote “Turkey ka Mustaqbil aur Musalmanon ka Farz”, which was published in Al Fazl, 27 September 1919. This article was later translated into English as The Future of Turkey and published in The Moslem World, Vol. 10, pp. 274-281. The same article seems to have been published in the ROR of Oct-Nov-1919, dated as 9-16-1919. It is also reported that Syed Zain-ul-Abidin has translated this into Arabic. The future of Turkey is mentioned in the June-1920 edition of the ROR. By 1921, via the ROR of Dec., Ahmadi’s claimed that MGA predicted the dismemberment of the Turkish empire (Ottoman Empire).

In April of 2025, in this video, a Muslim brother explains how a Qadiani-Ahmadi in Turkey tells Muslims to accept Mirza Ghulam Ahmad and stop being a Kafir. Mirza Ghulam Ahmad is a Rasul, and the Messiah of the time, Imam of the time, and don’t be a Kafir by denying him. It is mandatory to accept all Messengers of Allah (See the clip on TikTok and twitter). In June-2025, the Ahmadiyya Community in Istanbul, Turkey held its 15th annual Jalsa Salana. Mir Anjum Pervez was there, lots of Arabs too. Burhan Rasool is listed as a Kurdish translator. 

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Qadiani-Ahmadi’s vs. Lahori-Ahmadi’s 1908–1949

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We are collecting references in terms of the beef between the Lahori and Qadiani Ahmadi’s in the era of 1914–1947. Obviously, the 2nd Khalifa’s book, “Truth About the Split” was published in 1922 and Muhammad Ali responded with “True Facts About The Split”.

In the Dec-1921 edition of the ROR, a Lahori-Ahmadi magazine is promoted, “The Light”. The Aug-Sep-1920 edition of the ROR published a speech entitled, “Muhammad and Ahmad”. This is allegedly a speech from 2-18-1920, it doesn’t specify as to where, it only says Lahore. In this speech, the Khalifa argues that more prophets can come.

The Jan-Feb-March-1923 issue of the ROR reports that Muhammad Ali and his group of Lahori-Ahmadi’s are working against the Qadiani-Ahmadi’s in south-central India.

In the Islamic Review (Lahori-Ahmadi newspaper) of March-1935, prominent Lahori-Ahmadi’s like Khwaja Nazir Ahmad (Vice President of the “Woking Muslim Mission and Literary Trust”, member of the “Board of Trustees” and member of the “Management Committee of the Trust”) told the world that they were not the “Qadiani’s”, nor were they “Ahmadi’s”, they told the world that they believe Muhammad (saw) to be the Final prophet and consider any new claimant of prophethood as outside of Islam (see page 81). Abdul Majid is listed as the “Imam of the Shah Jehan Mosque, Woking, England”. Aftab-ud-Din is listed as the “Acting Imam of the Shah Jehan Mosque, Woking, England”. Khwaja Abdul Ghani is listed as “Secretary of the “Woking Muslim Mission and Literary Trust”.

In 1938, a Lahori-Ahmadi alleged that Mirza Ghulam Ahmad did adultery, but his son, Mirza Basheer-uddin Mahmud Ahmad, the Khalifa did it everyday. Check out Mubahisa Rawalpindi herein.

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Mormon sexual abuse hotlines, and will there be an Ahmadiyya sexual abuse hotline?

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We have came across some phone numbers and websites in terms of Mormons and sexual abuse. The 1-800 number is also 1-800-519-3798. It seems like non-profit corporations in America are under fire. How long will it take for the Ahmadiyya Movement to be exposed as such?

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The Bahai’s lied about converts too, yet another similarity between Bahai’s and Ahmadi’s

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Read our detailed work on the similarities between Bahai’s and Ahmadi’s. We have found additional similarities, in fact, there was a bait fraud in the Bahai’s, the eclipses happened for the Bahaullah, and many other similar things. We have also found a relevant quote in the March-April-May-1922 edition of the ROR.

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