Intro
Bro Imtiaz and Adnan covered this on this stream (see 1:13:00 time stamp). It seems that MGA accused Eisa (As) of learning the Torah from Jewish priests in various sittings (See Luke 2:46 and 4:16)(see Anjam-E-Athim, page 290, 1897).  This is another case of MGA authenticating the New Testament (Bible). This is against Islam, which categorically state that prophets never have any human teachers, Allah teaches them via angels (see the case of Muhammad [saw] being the unlettered prophet). Furthermore, in 3:48 of the Quran, Allah clearly says that he will teach Eisa (as) the book (kitab) and the wisdom (Hikmah), just like Allah taught Adam (as).

In 1897-1898, via “Kitab ul Barriya”, MGA says that his teacher Fazal ilahi taught him the Quran.

In 1898-1899, via “Ayyam-us-Sulh”, MGA alleged that he hadn’t learned Quran, hadith and Tafsir work by any teacher (see the full ref in the below). MGA also alleged : “However, Hazrat Eisa and Musa would sit in schools, and Hazrat Eisa (as) was taught by a Jewish teacher, the entire Torah”. Maulvi Razi tried to clean this up recently and claimed it was another case of “ilzami-jawab”, however, this cannot be twisted to be “ilzami-jawab”, since Musa (as) is also mentioned.

In 1901, MGA goes on to discredit his own Shia teachers and compared them to opium addicts (the Urdu/Persian word is “Posti”)(See Urdu Malfuzat, V-5, page 164, Al-Hakam, number 25, dated 31 July 1901, pages 1-3 and via Malfuzat-1, online english edition, pages 182-184). However, in the english they translated “Posti” as “Foolish”, which is a total lie.

In 1929, the 2nd Khalifa told the world that MGA was taught the basics of Islam from Shia imam’s (see Dard, page 36, his name was Gul Ali Shah) who were opium addicts and also smoked Huqqa. 6 years before that, Seeratul Mahdi (1923) was published and thus the sons of MGA admitted that their father did use opium. MGA was an opium addict and by 1924, the Ahmadiyya movement began editing his eyeballs, since they were so embarrassing. See also the ROR of Sep-1943, MGA alleges that one of his teachers was Shia and would abuse Abdul Qadir Geelanee (Jilani).

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1897
Anjam e Athim Zamima (appendix), via Aaqa Ka Ghulam (at the 14:33 mark)
Anjam-e-Athim (1897) quotes – ahmadiyyafactcheckblog
Live Stream |Part 7 |A COVER/FRAUD of Mirza Ghulam ILZAMI JAWAB (ACCUSATIVE ANSWER) (youtube.com)

English translation
“It is so much matter of shame that the education of mountains that is called brain of Bible(injeel) have been written (by jesus e.s) by stealing it from TALMOUD of jews. And then it was shown that it is my Teachings (education). And Christians are so much ashamed since that theft is caught.””

“””You (Jesus) had a jewish teacher, who taught you the old testament. Seems either you were too dumb naturally (so couldn’t understand) or the teacher purposely kept you ignorant.””

Urdu Transliteration
“”Aur niyahat sherm kee baat yahee hai, kay apnay paharee taleem ko, jo injeel ja magaz kahlatee hai, yahuddeeooo kee kitab thalmud say churaa kay leekha hai, aur pir aisa zahir keeaa hai kay goya yeh meree taleem hai, laikun jab yeh choree pakaree gai, Esai bhot sherminda hai”

 

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1897-1898
Kitab ul Bariyah, Roohani Khazain vol.13 p.180-181
Via Razi
AhmadiAnswers | Did Mirza Ghulam Ahmad عليه السلام Have Teachers?
Essence of Islam – vol. 4 (alislam.org), see page 9
Who is Fadl Ilahi? The Quran teacher of Mirza Ghulam Ahmad in the late 1840’s – ahmadiyyafactcheckblog

“In childhood, my education was done in this manner that when I was 6,7 years old, a persian-speaking teacher was appointed for me who taught me Holy Quran and some persian books and the name of this teacher was Fazal Ilahi. And when my age was about 10 years, then an Arabic teacher was appointed for my education whose name was Fazal Ahmad ……. From him I read some books and the grammar. When I reached 17 or 18 years of age, I had the opportunity of receiving education from another Molvi Sahib, his name was Gul Ali Shah……. From this lastly mentioned Molvi Sahib I studied grammar and logic and Herbal Medicine (Hikmat).” 

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1898-1899
Ayyam-us-Sulh, Ruhani Khaza’in, vol. 14, p. 394, See also Essence of Islam, Vol. 4
Ayyam-us-Sulh, quotes and background info – ahmadiyyafactcheckblog
As quote by Maulvi Razi–https://youtu.be/hBEWg8qqpko?si=4QhWYwuRXcA5739u

“””Significance of the Title ‘Mahdi’
The one who was to come was named Mahdi, to indicate that he would acquire the knowledge of the faith from God Himself, and would not acquire the knowledge of the Qur’an or Hadith from a teacher. I can state on oath that such is my case. No one can prove that I have had a single lesson of the Holy Qur’an or Hadith or Tafsir from any human being or have been the pupil of any commentator of the Holy Qur’an or scholar of Hadith. This indeed is the status of Mahdi, which has been bestowed upon me on the pattern of the Prophethood of Muhammad. I have been taught the mysteries of the faith directly, without any intermediary.””””

Translation
“However, Hazrat Eisa and Musa would sit in schools, and Hazrat Eisa (as) was taught by a Jewish teacher, the entire Torah”.

Transliteration
“””…magar hazrat Eisa, aur Musa, mathro may battay thai. Aur Hazrat Eisa nay, aikh Yahoodi ustad say tamam toraat puree thay”””. 

Scans


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1901
Urdu Malfuzat, V-5, page 164, Al-Hakam, number 25, dated 31 July 1901, pages 1-3.
Malfuzat-1, online english edition, pages 182-184, this is under the year of 1898, however, it is purposely mis-translated

“”””””””On his objection, I just got remembered story of opium addict (Posti). OPIUM ADDICT (Posti) has one LOOTA (used in washroom to clean excrement) and it had one Hole in it. Whenever he use to go to washroom for cleaning excrement, all the water inside the Lota use to leak out. So after so much contemplation he made a strategy that is to clean himself first before (passing stool) and was very happy on this planning. This is the plan these people have found. (Arabic : Quranic verse is quoted of surat saffat 108) from this they take the shahdat of Hazrat Imam Hussain (R.a). Even the mosques of shia people are not clean. I use to read from a shia teacher and their (inside shia worship place) Dogs and Cats use to Pass stool and urine. And I do not remember that anyone prayed their (in their mosque). Shia says that for us Imam Hussain and people of House (ahlay bait) have been martyrs. For them to Cry in their sadness and do MATAM is enough. For heaven there is no need to do any act (for them). Same is said by Christians that for us Blood of jesus have made us successful. Now I ask that Will you not be asked about your sins. You have to be punished for your sins So what kind of success (from hell) (you are talking about)?””””””””””

Scans, Urdu Malfuzat, V-5, page 164, Al-Hakam, number 25, dated 31 July 1901, pages 1-3.

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1929
Al-Fadl, February 5, 1929; by Mirza Mahmood Ahmad Qadiani

“The truth is that the Promised Messiah himself did not claim that he learnt the manifest sciences from anyone. He (Mirza) used to say that his teacher was an opium addict who smoked Huqqa as well. Sometimes, on account of intoxication, he used to spill the contents of the bottles on the ground. What could one expect from such teachers?”

Scans

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Links and Related Essay’s

Malfuzat — Volume I (alislam.org)

Click to access Malfuzat-1.pdf

Anjam-e-Athim (1897) quotes – ahmadiyyafactcheckblog

The Unschooled Prophet | The Unschooled Prophet | Al-Islam.org

Ayyam-us-Sulh, quotes and background info – ahmadiyyafactcheckblog

AhmadiAnswers | Did Mirza Ghulam Ahmad عليه السلام Have Teachers?

MGA used Christian sources vs. Muslims! That’s not ilzami jawab! – ahmadiyyafactcheckblog

Who is Fadl Ilahi? The Quran teacher of Mirza Ghulam Ahmad in the late 1840’s – ahmadiyyafactcheckblog

3:48 of the Quran proves that Allah will teach Esa (as) the Quran, just like Allah taught Adam (as) many things – ahmadiyyafactcheckblog

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