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He first appears in the official newspaper (The Moorish Guide) of the Moorish Science Temple (MST) in 1927, while Noble Drew Ali was still alive and well. Mealy El was in-charge of the Chicago Temple of the MST while Noble Drew Ali toured.

In August-1929, within a month of Drew Ali’s death, John Givens El, Ali’s chauffeur, declared that he was Drew Ali reincarnated (Excerpt from “MUQARRABEEN FILES VOL 1” by Brother R. Edwards-El, A.S.D.M., Author Brother J. Barnes-Bey, Co-Author). He was said to have fainted while working on Drew Ali’s automobile, and “the sign of the star and crescent [appeared] in his eyes.” John Givens-El also was apprehended after he forced his way into Attorney Payne’s home in search of Drew Ali’s papers. At the September Unity Conference, Givens again made his claim of reincarnation. However, the governors of the Moorish Science Temple of America declared Charles Kirkman Bey to be Drew Ali’s successor and named him Grand Advisor. With the support of several temples each, both Mealy El and Givens El went on to lead independent factions of the Moorish Science Temple. All three factions—formed and led by Kirkman Bey, Mealy El, and Givens El—are active today.

Givens was sent to the insane asylum but was released several years later. In 1941, he was heading a Chicago Temple on East 40th Street and still asserting his claim to the title of Grand Sheik of all Moorish American Science Temples. Givens is one of six contestants, each one a Temple leader and each one designating his own Temple as Temple Number One (1).

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He was born as George Givens was a native of Sumpter, South Carolina. He was born December 6, 1904.

Upon coming of age John Givens-El traveled west, finally settling in Chicago, IL, May 14, 1925. Shortly thereafter he embraced the teachings of Prophet Noble Drew Ali and joined and became a member of Chicago’s subordinate Temple #1 in 1926. After a brief period in the Temple, he was initiated into its Adept Chambers. He also became the chauffeur-mechanic for Prophet Noble Drew Ali.

In August-1929, within a month of Drew Ali’s death, John Givens El, Ali’s chauffeur, declared that he was Drew Ali reincarnated (Excerpt from “MUQARRABEEN FILES VOL 1” by Brother R. Edwards-El, A.S.D.M., Author Brother J. Barnes-Bey, Co-Author). He was said to have fainted while working on Drew Ali’s automobile, and “the sign of the star and crescent [appeared] in his eyes.” John Givens-El also was apprehended after he forced his way into Attorney Payne’s home in search of Drew Ali’s papers.

At the September Unity Conference, Givens again made his claim of reincarnation. However, the governors of the Moorish Science Temple of America declared Charles Kirkman Bey to be Drew Ali’s successor and named him Grand Advisor.

With the support of several temples each, both Mealy El and Givens El went on to lead independent factions of the Moorish Science Temple. All three factions—formed and led by Kirkman Bey, Mealy El, and Givens El—are active today.

Givens was sent to the insane asylum but was released several years later. In 1941, he was heading a Chicago Temple on East 40th Street and still asserting his claim to the title of Grand Sheik of all Moorish American Science Temples. Givens is one of six contestants, each one a Temple leader and each one designating his own Temple as Temple Number One (1).

Continue reading “Who is John Givens-El?” →

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It seems that there is a semi-famous Jordanian youtuber who goes by the name of Dr. Adil. He has interviewed a well-known Qadiani-Ahmadi pseudo Maulvi named Maulvi Tamim Abu Daqqa. We talked about it in this video herein (see 4:15:35 time stamp). Read about the history of Ahmadiyya in Jordan herein too.

Continue reading “Is Dr. Adil secretly a Qadiani-Ahmadi and working in Jordan?” →

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A few days ago, a video appeared in whatsapp groups and facebook wherein a Qadiani-Ahmadi Maulvi named Maulvi Israr Ahmad working in Malaysia is talking about how some high-ranking Ahmadi’s were absolved of their crimes in Malaysia. (see the clip on TikTok and Twitter). He seems to be referring to poor Ahmadi’s who are stuck in Malaysia in refugee camps. Check out his TikTok account herein (@asrarahmad.blogs). Israr Ahmad is a recent convert to Ahmadiyya and his father too, however, his brothers and sister’s didn’t leave Islam (see 5:28 time stamp).

In a follow-up video, he talks about the scam of Tahreek-e-Jadid and Waqf-e-Jadid and how Mirza Masroor Ahmad is going against his grandfather, the 2nd Qadiani-Ahmadi Khalifa. Mirza Masroor Ahmad promised that those who donate money will be prayed for specifically by the Khalifa, Mirza Masroor Ahmad. Maulvi Israr Ahmad quoted and explained how the 2nd Qadiani-Ahmadi Khalifa has said that chanda was for Allah (See Anwarul Aloom, Jild-25, pages 221-222), and how Mirza Masroor Ahmad is saying the opposite (see the clip on facebook).

Here is another follow up video. There is also a TikTok wherein Israr Ahmad goes to an Ahmadiyya graveyard in Malaysia and shows its decrepit state.

Continue reading “Maulvi Israr Ahmad has been expelled from the Ahmadiyya Jamaat in Malaysia” →

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Tahir Jahangir, CEO of Punjab Oil Mills (born in the 1940’s?), has revealed that he was born a Lahori-Ahmadi, the maternal grandson of Maulvi Muhammad Ali and has now left Ahmadiyya (see the video on facebook, TikTok and Twitter) and has become a Muslim. He is the son of Begum Tahira (the daughter of Maulvi Muhammad Ali) and Mian Fazl-e-Ahmed (a prominent Lahori-Ahmadi). His widow is the famous Asma Jahangir, who was pro-blasphemy! Here is a video explaining this story. 

Tahir led a life of luxury (just like his father). He had had a swimming pool, horse stables and fleets of cars in his father’s homes in Lyallpur and Lahore since his childhood. He was an alumni of Aitchison College and Cambridge University. From school to completion of our Master’s degrees at Cambridge, (the Tripos), Tahir and I were classmates and friends. But Tahir throughout was the topper: winning the gold medal for the best academic in school in our final year at Aitchison. Tahir (TJ to friends) was a prince and had been brought up like one. Even when Cambridge closed for as little as a few days, TJ would fly home or to an exotic holiday venue as we, the plebs, slogged on in our digs in a deserted university town. Back in Cambridge, Tahir drove around in an MGB Convertible. In winters he spent time in Switzerland’s ski resorts rubbing shoulders with the world’s rich and famous. His wardrobe was all from Cambridge’s most expensive shop, Arthur Shepherd. He spent sunny days punting on the Cam, the scenic river that gave its name to the town, or speeding around in the MGB, hood down, and blonde hair flying from the passenger seat.

Continue reading “Tahir Jahangir (maternal grandson of Maulvi Muhammad Ali) has quit Ahmadiyya and joined Islam” →

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It seems like Ahmadi’s were attacking each other at these meetings and the 2nd Qadiani-Ahmadi Khalifa was forced to tell them to stop. See the quotes in the below.

Continue reading “1937, the second day of Majlis-e-Mushawarat 1937, March 27th at Qadian” →

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The Dawn newspaper of 4-21-25 is reporting how the Punjab Housing and Town Planning (PHATA) has published a residential and commercial plots auction advertisement in a daily on April-17-2025, explicitly excluding members of the Ahmadiyya Community from participating in an upcoming plot auction even in Chenabnagar, the headquarters of the Jamaat-i-Ahmadiyya, besides the neighboring towns of Chiniot, Jhang and Shorkor. How does this effect the 99-year lease? What will happen when the lease expires in 2047.

Furthermore, in 1974, Nawab Iftikhar Ahmad Ansari, a member of the Pakistan Bar Council and ex-member of the West Pakistan Assembly, on Wednesday filed a petition before the Tribunal inquiring into the Rabwah incident praying for permission for placing on record documents pertaining to the grant of Rabwah land to the Anjuman-a-Ahmadia. The petitioner maintained that grant of 1,033 acres, seven kanals, and eight marlas of land for Rs. 10,340 by the Governor of the Punjab to the chief of the Anjuman could not be made under the Colonisation of Government Lands Act. Tarikh e Ahmadiyyat Vol 10. Abker Chaudhary answered questions on this 99 years lease herein. This entire scenario was also posted on twitter.

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A Qadiani-Ahmadi Maulvi named Abdul Hafeez has left #Qadianism in Bangladesh (see video herein)(See on twitter and TikTok). In addition to this, 185 Muslims from 56 families who had recently converted to Qadianism have reverted to Islam, this happened in the Rupsa Area of Khulna, Bangladesh. Ahmadiyya sources have confessed to this (see full essay in the below)(An official Ahmadiyya twitter account mentioned it too). However, they are claiming that Ahmadis were forced to quit Ahmadiyya (a total lie). All of this happened with the efforts of Khatme Nabuwwat organization called Khatme Nabuwat Markaz Bangladesh. Founder Director Mufti Shuaib Ibrahim Hafi. He is also Amir of International Khatme Nabuwat Movement Bangladesh. It is led by eminent scholar Mufti Shuaib Ibrahim. More peoples have shown their intent to quit the Jamaat, whose detail would be shared later.

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Allegedly, in 1935, Prophet Mohammed Bey and his followers broke-away from Charles Kirkman Bey and the his sect of the Moorish Science Temple (22:00 time stamp).

In 1937, “The Call” newspaper (of Fri, Jun 11, 1937 ·Page 11) reported on Mohammed Bey the leader of a Negro cult that wear the Red Fez cap and how his follower, Harrison Green pistol-whipped (with a revolver) James Buford on the head in front of the cult’s headquarter, at 2404 North Fifth St. (Kansas City) Harrison Green prefers to be called Green B. Harrison El. Nevertheless, he was found guilty in court. Harrison Green wore his Fez cap throughout the trial. Mohammed Bey said that his subject were not Negroes, but Moors. Harrison Green was taken into custody and awaiting sentencing (See “The Call” of Fri, Jun 11, 1937 ·Page 11).

In 1941, “Kansas City The Call”, or “The Call” an African-American weekly newspaper founded in 1919 in Kansas City, Missouri, by Chester A. Franklin reported the death of Prophet Mohammed Bey (See The Call of Fri, Mar 14, 1941 ·Page 21). It is also explained how Prophet Mohammed Bey was born as William Jones in Mississippi. His funeral services are to be led by Brother Boyd Bey, a follower of the cult whose male members are distinguished by their long braided hair and black tasseled red felt fezzes. It is also called the “red-cap-cult”. Growth has been limited. In the Kansas City area, Mohammed Bey was the undisputed leader, with Moslem temples located nearby in towns like Atchison. Most members are living in impoverished conditions. The Prophet Mohammed Bey lived at 604 Miami Ave, in the Armourdale district. Across the top of the front porch is a huge sign which shows the Circle-7 and Noble Drew Ali’s symbols, i.e., 7 in a broken circle and with the word “unity”, beside which are two clasped hands and the figure of a man, and the word, “Islam”, supplemented by a green star in a green crescent. An Asiatic star is also visible. Mrs. Rosa Bey (wife of the Prophet Mohammed Bey was also interviewed. Prophet Mohammed Bey (Plain William Jones) called himself, “Black Jesus”, “The Prophet” and “Father”. Prophet Mohammed Bey robbed his followers once, told them to remove their children from public schools and forced black women to cover their heads. They were assigned names like “Bey” or “El”. Prophet Mohammed Bey also taught his followers about the concept of reincarnation and said that he would return. Besides his widow, he is also survived by a son and other relatives.

In this video (24:07 time stamp), it is mentioned how in 1942, after the Japanese attacked the USA, Mother Prophet Rose (aka Mrs. Rosa Bey) began to use the newspaper of Kirkman Bey’s organization (The Moor’s Voice) as a basis for her teachings. In this newspaper, a female follower of Kirkman Bey named Sister Folsom Bey called on members to support the Japanese in WW-2. Mother Prophet Rose claimed that the Japanese were Eastern Hemitites and Black people were Western Hemitites. Mother Prophet Rose told her followers that all asiatic people should work together.

The FBI raided their temple in 1942, after multiple visits wherein they urged members to sign up for the draft. 14 members were arrested. Allegedly, in their frustration, FBI agents signed up members for the draft on their own behalf, based on information in their prison records. In total, 7 men were indicted and sentenced to 4 years in prison.

Continue reading “Who is Prophet Mohammed Bey aka William Jones (dead in 1941 in Kansas City)?” →