Intro
Pir Manzur Muhammad (also spelled Peer Manzoor)(1866-1950) was the son of Sufi Ahmad Jan of Ludhiana. Noorudin had married his sister (Sughra Begum) in 1889, while MGA was conducting his famous BAIT of 1889. However, he doesn’t seem to have converted to Ahmadiyya, on 6 February 1892, he pledged allegiance to MGA in Lahore. At that time, he was working as a clerk in the education department in Jammu, a job he acquired through Hakim Maulvi Nuruddin, his brother-in-law. When Hakim Maulvi Nuruddin left his job in Jammu (1893) and came to Qadian, Pir Manzur Muhammad also came to Qadian for permanent residence. Here, he learned how to write so that he could help in the writings of MGA.
In 1906, he married off his daughter to MGA’s youngest brother-in-law (Mir Muhammad Ishaq),
and in exchange, MGA began to have revelations about Pir Manzur Muhammad having a baby-boy, he already had 2 daughters and were thus hoping for a son.
A daughter was born to Pir Manzur Muhammad on Tuesday, 17 July 1906 (Via Haqiqatul Wahi, page 122, Online English, Urdu, page 109). His wife (a different Muhammadee Begum) herself died in 1908. This prophecy is also connected to the famous “Doomsday Prophecy”.
In 1907, The marriage of Mirza Mubarak Ahmad and Abdul Haye is announced (See Al-Badr of Sep-5-1907 and via Bro Imtiaz, 31:22). Abdul Haye is marrying the daughter of Pir Manzur Muhammad (father of the other Muhamadee Begum). Mirza Mubarak Ahmad is marrying Maryam, the daughter of Dr. Abdul Sattar Shah, she only 2 years old.
In 1914, Pir Manzur Muhammad wrote to the Khalifa (Noorudin) and asked about the “Musleh Maud”, Pir Manzur Muhammad was already indicating that Mirza Basheer-uddin Mahmud Ahmad was in-fact the Musleh Maud (see Tashhizul Azhan, 1914, and Tarikh-i-Ahmadiyyat, Vol. IV, page 369) and (“Truth Prevails”, pages 90-91). We have also written an essay on MGA, abortion, mis-carriages and his followers. Ahmadiyya sources also tell us that Pir Manzur Muhammad wrote the famous standardized “Yassarnal-Quran” in Urdu in 1904, it is still used to this day.
Also check out Bro Imtiaz’s stream on this herein.
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Children?
Daughter-Hamida Begum, she was married off to a son of Noorudin (Abdul Hayy) in error, this was annulled later (not sure which wife this was).
Daughter—Saliha Bi (see ROR of April-1944).
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1889
Ahmadiyya leadership lied about the First Bait ceremony in 1889 – ahmadiyyafactcheckblog
The first Bait happened in his house, in Ludhiana.
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1892
Hazrat Pir Manzur Muhammad – AhmadiPedia
On 6 February 1892, he pledged allegiance to MGA in Lahore. At that time, he was working as a clerk in the education department in Jammu, a job he acquired through Hakim Maulvi Nuruddin, his brother-in-law.
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1893
When Hakim Maulvi Nuruddin left his job in Jammu (1893) and came to Qadian, Pir Manzur Muhammad also came to Qadian for permanent residence. Here, he learned how to write so that he could help in the writings of MGA.
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1896
The famous list of 313 Qadiani’s was created in 1896-1897 – ahmadiyyafactcheckblog
He is mentioned in the famous list of 313 Ahmadi’s, he is #27, see Dard, page 845).
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1906
https://ahmadiyyafactcheckblog.com/2019/05/16/who-is-mir-muhammad-ishaq-1890-1944-the-brother-in-law-of-mga/
In the early part of 1906, Pir Manzur Muhammad agreed to allow his daughter to marry Mir Muhammad Ishaq (MGA’s younger brother-in-law). Her name was Saliha Bi (see ROR of April-1944). Thus, MGA was close to Pir Manzur Muhammad.
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1906
1st Revelation and Prophecy
February 19, 1906
“””I saw (in my dream) that a son was born to Manzur Muhammad and he asked what name should be given him. Then my mind moved from the dream towards the reception of revelation and I was informed: Bashirud-Daulah The Promised Messiah[as] said: I supplicate for a large number of people and do not know to whom the word Manzur Muhammad refers. It might be that the word indicates that a son would be born to Miyań Manzur Muhammad whose birth might bring with it prosperity and wealth; or it might be that the boy himself might rise high and be wealthy. But I cannot say for certain when that boy would be born. God has not specified any time. It might be soon or Allah the Almighty may delay it for several years.”””
I have bolded the sentence because, MGA says ‘it might be’, that means at this stage MGA is just making an assumption about the father of this son. Ahmadis may try to use this as a loophole and say the actual prophecy relates to someone else who may yet to be born as the MGA clearly states he doesn’t know when this prophecy will be fulfilled. But from revelations after this, we will see MGA was sure that the son was to be born to the same couple.
_____________________________________________________________________________________________2nd Revelation and Prophecy
June 7, 1906
“””It has been conveyed to me by revelation that in the family of Miyań Manzur Muhammad, that is to Muhammadi Begum, a son will be born, who will have two names: (1) Bashirud-Daulah (2) ‘Alam Kabab Both of these names were revealed to me. My interpretation and understanding concerning these is as follows: (1) Bashirud-Daulah means that he would be a good augury for our glory and prosperity. After his birth (or after his achieving his discretion), the prophecy concerning the great earthquake and other prophecies will be fulfilled and a large number of people will turn to us and a great victory will be achieved. (2) ‘Alam Kabab means that within a few months of his birth, or before he achieves his discretion, the world would be overtaken by a great calamity as if it was coming to an end. That is why that boy has been named ‘Alam Kabab. In short, this boy will be called Bashir-ud-Daulah as he will be a Sign of our glory and prosperity and he will be ‘Alam Kabab because he will be an example of the Judgment Day for our opponents.”””
From the bolded statement, it is clear MGA is saying Allah has conveyed that the son was to be born to the same couple itself. Earlier, in February, MGA was assuming but now Allah has conveyed.
We also learn that a great earthquake is a sign for this person. And a large number of converts will happen.
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_____________________________________________________________________________________________Same day another revelation is mentioned in Tadkhirah
June 7, 1906
“””Thereafter, it has been conveyed to me that this boy has two other names also: (1) Shadi Khan, as he will be a token of joy for this Community and (2) Kalimatullah Khan, because he will be a word of God. It has been so appointed from the beginning and will be fulfilled in this age. It is ordained that God will keep the mother of this boy alive till this prophecy is fulfilled. A previous revelation: [English] A word and two girls; refers to the same prophecy…. Miyań Manzur Muhammad has two daughters and when the Kalimatullah will be born then the prophecy A word and two girls would be fulfilled. [Badr, vol. 2, no. 24]”””
Yet again MGA confirms through Allah’s revelation that the said person will be born to the same couple and relates it with another prophecy he received. And as per the previous prophecy about the word and two girls, MGA says the said couple will now have a son, after two daughters.
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June 19, 1906
“””The names of the son of Miyań Manzur Muhammad, who will be a Sign, have been conveyed by revelation of Allah are as follows:
(1) Kalimatul-‘Aziz (2) Kalimatullah Khan (3) [English] Word (4) Bashirud-Daulah (5) Shadi Khan (6) ‘Alam Kabab (7) Nasirud-Din (8) Fatehud-Din (9) [Arabic] [This is a blessed day.]””””
Now we note see that all this happened while Miyan Manzur Muhammad’s wife, Muhammadee Begum, was pregnant. And from the prophecy bolded above MGA clearly thought this would be a boy and that is why he said the couple had two daughters and when the son (‘A word’) is born the prophecy about ‘Two girls and a word’ will be fulfilled. But in July Muhammadi Begum gave birth to a third girl. Now, with the a girl being born the actual prophecy, if it has to be true, should have mentioned three girls.
Now, after the girl was born, MGA claimed that he supplicated to Allah and it was accepted and the earthquake was postponed and thus it was necessary that the birth of this boy should also be postponed. So, according to MGA, he prayed so much after June so that Allah changed his mind about earthquake and thus the gender of the 8 month old fetus was also changed and Muhammadee Begum delivered a baby girl next month.
No son was born to the said couple thereafter and in the year 1908 Muhammadee Begum passed away. Clearly indicating that the prophecy of MGA failed.
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1906
July
Via Haqiqatul Wahi, page 122, Online English
Urdu, page 109
A daughter was born to Pir Manzur Muhammad on Tuesday, 17 July 1906.
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1906–1907
Via Haqiqatul Wahi, page 122, Online English
Urdu, page 109
(2) Ahmadiyya Absurd Ideology Words Have No Meanings!!! | The Dialogue With imtiaz | Adnan Rashid – YouTube
“””Earlier, I had received the divine revelation that the earthquake that will be apocalyptic was imminent. The Sign appointed for it was that Muhammadi Begum, the wife of Pir Manzur Muhammad Ludhianavi, will give birth to a son. Since that boy would be a Sign for the occurrence of the earthquake, he would be named Bashir-ud-Daulah, indicating that he would be a good augury for our Movement’s progress. Similarly………This revelation was published in the newspapers Badr and Al-Hakam about four months ago. Since the apocalyptic earthquake has
been delayed, it was also necessary that the birth of the boy be also delayed. Accordingly, a daughter was born to Pir Manzur Muhammad on Tuesday, 17 July 1906. This is a Sign of the acceptance of the supplication and is also a Sign of the truthfulness of the divine revelation that had been published four months before the daughter was born…….”””
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1907
Sep-5-1907, al-badr
Invitation for the marriage of Mirza Mubarak Ahmad and Abdul Haye
Failed Prophecy of MGA regarding the Birth of a Son to Pir Manzur Muhammad 1906-1908 – ahmadiyyafactcheckblog
https://www.youtube.com/live/DfhILeVkb64?si=tMG9qFp5ZYKVb7zM
The marriage of Mirza Mubarak Ahmad and Abdul Haye is announced (See Al-Badr of 9-5-1907 and via Bro Imtiaz, 31:22). Abdul Haye is marrying the daughter of Manzur Muhammad (father of the other Muhamadee Begum).
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1908–Oct
Muhammadi Begum dies.
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1916
His mother was Qamar Jan Sahiba, who passed away on 13 January 1916 and was buried in Bahishti Maqbarah. Her Wasiyyat number was 120.
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1923
[Siratul-Mahdi, part 3, Riwayat no. 497, p. 22]
Via Tadhkirah
Dr. Mir Muhammad Isma‘il narrates from Pir Manzur Muhammad that:
When the Promised Messiah was dwelling in the garden after the severe earthquake he received a revelation:
[Urdu] The death of one of the three great men.
…Shortly thereafter Maulavi ‘Abdul-Karim Sialkoti fell ill and died after a few days.
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1944
Malfoozaat Hazrat Ameerul Momineen Khalifatul Maseeh Sani AlFazl vol.32 No.255 dated 31 Oct 1944 p.1; mention in Tazkirah, Collection of Revelations of Mirza, 2nd edition, p. 616, footnote
http://alhafeez.org/rashid/wrongprophecy.pdf
“Hazrat Amirul Momineen Khalifatul Maseeh as-Sani … on one occasion, giving the
explanation of this inspiration, said: “One meaning of the KALIMA is that book of Pir
Manzoor Mohammed Saheb which he wrote about Musleh Mowood and the meaning of
TWO GIRLS is his girls. In other words in the inspiration this was revealed that his legacy
will be two things – one kalimah and two girls – thus one of his girls was Hamida Begum
Saheba Marhooma who was married to Sardar Karam Dad Khan Saheb Pensioner and
other is Saleha Begum Saheba who came into the wedlock of Mirza Mohammed Ishaq
Saheb. These are the two girls who are mentioned in this inspiration and the act of God
has confirmed that these two girls were meant by it. It was also evident by this inspiration
that Pir Saheb will not have a boy. ….. The meaning of this inspiration is only this that he is
the first one to point towards this prophecy. Thus in our Jamaat the first one to write a
book about Musleh Mowood was written by Pir Saheb and this inspiration was about it.”
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1950
Hazrat Pir Manzur Muhammad – AhmadiPedia
Pir Manzur Muhammad passed away on 21 June 1950.
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1953
This Week in History: 3-9 September
8 September 1953: Hazrat Saleha Begumra, noble wife of Hazrat Mir Muhammad Ishaqra, passed away. She was among the 13 founding members of the Lajna Imaillah auxiliary. She was the daughter of Hazrat Pir Manzoor Muhammadra, son of Hazrat Sufi Ahmad Jan. She was born on 12 January 1897, in Qadian. Her mother’s name was Hazrat Muhammadi Begumra.
Hazrat Saleha Begum’sra marriage took place on the basis of a dream the Promised Messiahas had seen. In her childhood, she was trained directly by Hazrat Ahmadas and then by Hazrat Khalifatul Masih Ira.
To teach Hazrat Saleha Begumra the Holy Quran, her father, Hazrat Pir Manzoor Muhammadra, wrote Yassarnal-Quran. She was fluent in Arabic, she studied hadith and was fluent in Persian. She took the maulvi fazil exam and attained the first position in Punjab.
Hazrat Saleha Begumra got married in 1906 and became the daughter-in-law of Hazrat Mir Nasir Nawabra. She then went to Qadian. On this occasion, Hazrat Musleh-e-Maudra wrote a poem, a couplet of which is as follows:
میاں اسحاق كى شادى ہوئى ہے آج اے لوگو
ہر اِک منہ سے یہی آواز آتى ہے مبارک ہو
“Today, O people, Mian Ishaq got married; Congratulatory words are on the lips of all.”
Her whole life was spent in the education and training of Ahmadi women. She taught the Holy Quran to hundreds of children. She was a scholar. Hazrat Mir Muhammad Ishaqra was the headmaster of the Ahmadiyya Madrasa and the superintendent of Dar-ul-Shayookh, a care centre established for orphans and needy people in the Jamaat. Thus, Hazrat Saleha Begumra gave and provided motherly love to many orphans. She served in many capacities in various offices in the Jamaat.
Despite all her responsibilities, she used to make time for travel and exercise. She travelled to many cities and places. She used to go on picnics with her children near Qadian and teach them about religion. She would also cycle and loved to play badminton. Allah blessed her with three sons and four daughters. The names of her sons are as follows:
• Syed Mir Daud Ahmad Sahib
• Syed Mir Masood Ahmad Sahib
• Syed Mir Mahmood Ahmad Nasir Sahib
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Whenever a Prophecy falls flat. Ahmadis often use the following excuses:
First argument would be based on the first revelation I quoted. Ahmadis would say MGA said “It might be that the word indicates that a son would be born to Miyań Manzur Muhammad”. We know this argument holds no basis from the revelation he received later in which he says the matter was conveyed from Allah.
Second argument, is yet again on the basis that MGA interpreted the dream wrong and when Allah said Miyan Manzur Muhammad He actually meant MGA itself and the son referred to is Mirza Bashiruddeen Mahmud Ahmad. Mahmud Ahmad was already born and in his teens while this prophecy of a son to be born was received. This makes no sense. Further, MGA said Allah conveyed to MGA that the son would be born to this specific couple.
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Pocket Book Ahmadiyya p. 453
http://alhafeez.org/rashid/wrongprophecy.pdf
“Hazrat Saheb (Mirza Ghulam) has clearly stated that identity of Manzoor Mohammed cannot be determined, neither has the inspiration established that. Hazrat Saheb did not necessarily indicate that by Manzoor Mohammed Mian Manzoor Mohammed is meant. This is a dream and in dreams names are mentioned according to the qualities. Therefore by Manzoor Mohammed no one is meant except Hazrat Maseeh Mowood and Basheerud Daula is Mirza Basheeruddin Mahmood Ahmad who is also Alam Kabab.”
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Hazrat Pir Manzur Muhammad – AhmadiPedia
Pir Manzur Muhammad was amongst the 313 companions of Mirza Ghulam Ahmad. He was born in 1866 in Ludhiana to Sufi Ahmad Jan. Sufi Sahib had a long and unique relationship with the Mirza Ghulam Ahmad, and he believed him to be appointed by Allah.
His mother was Qamar Jan Sahiba, who passed away on 13 January 1916 and was buried in Bahishti Maqbarah. Her Wasiyyat number was 120.
Pir Manzur Muhammad had the privilege of meeting MGA for the first time in 1884 in Ludhiana.
On 6 February 1892, he pledged allegiance to MGA in Lahore. At that time, he was working as a clerk in the education department in Jammu, a job he acquired through Hakim Maulvi Nuruddin.
When Hakim Maulvi Nuruddin left his job in Jammu and came to Qadian, Pir Manzur Muhammad also came to Qadian for permanent residence. Here, he learned how to write so that he could help in the writings of MGA. He had beautiful handwriting and had the privilege of handwriting the first copy of many of MGA’s books. He introduced the unique system to teach children how to read the Quran, Qaida Yassarnal Quran.
MGA mentioned his name in the Appendix of Anjam-e-Atham.
Pir Manzur Muhammad passed away on 21 June 1950.
_____________________________________________________________________________________________Links and Related Essays
Who is Mir Muhammad Ishaq (1890–1944)? The brother-in-law of MGA
Click to access Truth_Prevails.pdf
Click to access Yassarnal-Quran-EN.pdf
Mirza Ghulam Ahmad’s strange predictions about sons for his followers
Hazrat Pir Manzur Muhammad – AhmadiPedia
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