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In 1893, Mirza Ghulam Ahmad admitted to not being proficient in Arabic

Intro
We have new information that proves that uptil the age of 53-58, Mirza Ghulam Ahmad was not proficient in the Arabic language, remember, MGA claimed to be the Messiah and Mahdi by 1893. The quote comes from Seeratul Mahdi, which was published in late 1923. In this quote, Ghulam Nabi Seth relates a story to Mirza Bashir Ahmad whish was archived in Seeratul Mahdi and proves that MGA was never proficient in Arabic before his first arabic booklet (At-Tabligh) in 1893, which was Part-2 of “A’ina-e-Kamalat-e-Islam”, (The Mirror of the Excellences of Islam). Also written as Mian Ghulam Nabi Sahib Sethi, in 1898, he told his disciple Seth Ghulam Nabi that it is OK to use money received from interest towards religion. In this quote, MGA was supposed to write his essay in Urdu and Noorudin and Maulvi Abdul Karim were supposed to translate it into Arabic. It should be noted that Noorudin had just moved to Qadian and was living in MGA’s house. However, Mian Ghulam Nabi Sahib Sethi claims that MGA came out with the Arabic paper and Noorudin and Abdul Karim didn’t need to translate it. However, this is a farce, this event happened in 1893, Ghulam Nabi Seth was relating it 30 years later in 1923 and seems to have purposely lied. Further, the second Khalifa wrote in 1921 that MGA learned 40,000 roots in minute.

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The quote
Sirat-ul-Mahdi, Vol. 1, Part II, p. 315, via 

Mirza Bashir Ahmad states:

“Mian Ghulam Nabi Sahib Sethi related to me that he was in Qadian once and the Promised Messiahas was writing Aina-e-Kamalat-e-Islam. Hazrat Sahib consulted with the Jamaat [members] as to how tabligh be carried out to scholars and gaddi nasheens [successors of a saint, or pir]. Different opinions were exchanged. The Promised Messiah said, ‘There should be a book in Arabic for such people but the problem is that I do not have proficiency in Arabic as compared to them. However, I will write an article in Urdu and we will then translate it into Arabic by combined effort.’ Thus, the Promised Messiah went inside his house. Then, the Promised Messiah came out with a draft he had written in Arabic. Maulvi Nuruddin Sahib and Maulvi Abdul Karim Sahib were surprised to see it. Consequently, Maulvi Abdul Karim Sahib said, ‘I have studied a lot of Arabic literature, but I have never seen such an excellent piece in Arabic [writing].’ The Promised Messiahas said, ‘I prayed to God Almighty about it. Hence, 40,000 origins of Arabic words have been taught to me by God.’” 

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Jalsa Salana of 1921 and did Mirza Ghulam Ahmad know Arabic?

Intro
As we all know, MGA didn’t know Arabic properly enough to write academically in Arabic, nor could MGA pronounce easy Arabic letters like Duad, Ain, Ghain and Qaaf, just to name a few.  After 1897, MGA began to claim that he learned 40,000 roots of Arabic in one night. At the Jalsa of 1921, the Khalifa seems to have claimed that MGA did in fact learn arabic in one minute, which is ridiculous.
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The quote
Anwar-ul-Ulum, Vol. 6, p. 435
https://www.alhakam.org/did-the-promised-messiah-ever-claim-that-allah-taught-him-40000-arabic-words-in-a-single-night/

The opponents called him [the Promised Messiahas] ignorant and said that he did not know a word of Arabic. However, he replied to them, ‘I know where the treasure of knowledge lies and I will bring knowledge from there.’ Thus, he invoked God the Almighty’s attribute of Al-Aleem [All-Knowing] and he was granted matchless knowledge. He used to say, ‘Once, 40,000 origins of words [of Arabic] were inspired to me by God Almighty in one minute.’” 

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Mirza Ghulam Ahmad claimed that 21:92 of the Quran made him Mary and pregnant

Intro
Mirza Ghulam Ahmad disrespected so many Islamic personalities, no one was safe. He accused Mary of meeting Joseph before she got married to him. Mirza Ghulam Ahmad disputed the status of Esa (as)’s mother as “Siqqidah” in english as “truthful”. MGA even said that Jesus’ example of morals was quite worthless and misleading. MGA used Lekh Ram’s arguments vs. Esa (as). In fact, MGA’s tirade against Esa (As) was too much. There are so many instances of this. In this specific instance, MGA was claiming that 21:92 (21:93 in the Qadiani Quran) was revealed about MGA becoming Mary (nauzobillah). MGA even claimed a similar verse, 66:12 was also revealed about MGA getting pregnant and becoming Mary. See also the 5-volume commentary of the Quran by Malik Ghulam Farid (1988) on both of these verses. One more thing, Mirza Ghulam Ahmad and his team went back and forth in terms of if Jesus had a biological father or not.
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21:92 of the Quran from al-Quran.com

SAHIH INTERNATIONAL

“”””And [mention] the one who guarded her chastity, so We blew into her [garment] through Our angel [Gabriel], and We made her and her son a sign for the worlds.”””
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Additional questions for Keekee

 

60. He hated me since 1992 and my other brother.
Unchanged: 61. Keekee quotes 89:15-16. However, he doesn’t quote MGA. What money did MGA ever give? When was this revealed? Keekee is aggressively accusing ex-Ahmadi’s of refusing to pay chanda. What about the man who steals from his family? This ayat has nothing to do with Chanda. Keekee robbed both of his brothers. This doesnt just apply to the orphan. When my dad died, he wants all of that too. Refinancing? Bankruptcies? Is this how? He says Pakistani’s behave like this normally…however, Keekee tries to blame Pakistani’s and not Ahmadi’s. That punishment is not written in the quran..the quran says, when the day of judgement will approach.
Unchanged: 62. keekee then fumbles and can’t answer as to why Bashishit Maqbara exists in the first place.
Unchanged: 63. He goes back to his debate tactics. He can’t be honest, that’s the issue.
Unchanged: 64. He doesn’t like when we give examples. When we give parallels.
Unchanged: 65. Keekee hated me since I was 11-12.
Unchanged: 66. Jamaat Ahmadiyya does force people to pay chanda. They embarass people, and keep asking and keep asking.
Unchanged: 67. They hated me, since I didn’t pay.
Added: 68. excessive begging for chanda.
Added: 69. He doesnt even want to hear us…he called it a lecture.  Hilarious!!!
Added: 70. In America…we dont burn down the houses of those who dont pray…in fact, we dont even ask. Keekee didn’t read the whole hadith. He is being arrogant again.
Added: 71. What masjid did MGA go to for daily prayers from 1840–1876?
Added: 72. Keekee says its his program, he can go whatever he wants.
Added: 73. Abu Bakr only gave during a maj

74. Keekee says he doesnt care where the Ahmadiyya INC uses his money.

75. MGA refused to show accounts.

76. He says that Zia and Bhutto tried to figure out where Ahmadiyya chanda was coming from or something like that. Thats a lie.

77.  Ahmadi’s only clean streets to get governmental favor. Not from the bottom of their hearts, like the Catholic Church too.

78. Jamaat Ahmadiyya doesnt audit the money after it leaves the UK and goes to 3rd world countries. Show us.

79. But my uncle owned a liqour store…many Ahmadi’s did. MGA even accepted money prostitiuyes. And Khurram pays lots of interest in america…not just a few things, he lives on a credit card.

80. Shafiq was a bartender in SF. He never went to Juma. Most Ahmadi’s dont go to Juma.

Questions for Ak Shaikh, via Keekee

Intro
Keekee is running wild. Here are some questions.
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1. He doesn’t understand why Akber c asked why Keekee removed those videos? Its about Keekee’s tajweed, its not good. Its about Keekee’s arrogance and rudeness. MGA didn’t know arabic and was challenged by Pir Mehr Ali Shah. MGA didn’t show up to Lahore. MGA couldnt say the letters Duad, Ain, Ghain, Qaaf and many others. MGA was not fluent in arabic. MGA didnt learn 40,000 roots in one night. The Lahori-Ahmadi’s dont believe this. My experiences at Rabwah.

2. He says he won a court case in 2020 vs. his brother. That’s a lie. He didn’t win anything. The restraining order was not approved. But what about in 2018? In 2018, keekee did the same, I saw him in public, I tried to say salaam..he screamed police and took me to court and his restraining order wasn’t approved. Did I celebrate? The problem is that Ahmadiyya teaches over competitive behaviors and Ahmadi’s get hurt as a result of this. See the case of Amjad Khan and his teeth.

3. he says he only removed the videos because it hurt me. Not true…I removed my videos about his wife and asked him to remove his videos about me through a cousin. Keekee was also supposed to stop saying my name…which he has reneged on. he is just too competitive and won’t admit to it.

4. Khurram’s tajweed is below average, severely. He was the local president for 9 years via a fraudulent election. What is his position now? Any national positions? regional?

5. Does Mirza Maghfoor Ahmad know about Razi and Keekee and their online behaviors? Have they approved of them?

6. Ahmadi’s are all atheist. Ahmadi’s disrespect Muhammad (saw) all the time. What about them?

7. He says that every person on zaitoon fm is an atheist. Is this takfir? But why do Ahmadi’s cry persecution then? Why do Ahmadi’s do open takfir in america/Canada/Africa/the UK, Germany and India but cry about not being lawful Muslims in Pakistan?

8. Ahmadi’s crank calling? My experiences in Rabwah. Porn at the internet cafe’s. Ahmadi’s crank call and harrass people. even the sons of Noorudin were harrassed.

9.  He’s mad that we laugh at Ahmadi’s and their behaviors. Even Fauzia Faizi was ill treated.

10.  Ahmadiyya causes people to hate Islam. Easily and quickly.

11. then he accuses ex-ahmadis of crank calling? He is happy that he told on his brothers for questioning and threatening a local president. He is happy to have beat us. He told on us. We didnt quit because of crank calling. We quit because of the prophethood of MGA. Khurram wanted the family business and his wife. the jamaat doesnt punish crank callers, Khadim Shah and Khurram try to kill their family for threatening Jamaat Presidents. Love for all, hatred for none? It wasnt me…calling. Khurram snitched. How did Khurram kiss up to his children after that? didnt all of those children marry non-Ahmadi’s? Are they fake ahmadi’s now? he bought them shoes, food and totally kissed up. Keekee is a kiss up.

12. keekee thinks that khatam in 2:7 is different than in 33:40. He wont answer. He also wont answer as to why MGA claimed to be the second coming of Muhammad (saw)(nauzobillah) via 108:1 and 62:3. he wont answer. He wont answer whether MGA claimed to be superior to Yusuf (as) and Esa (as) and many others.

13. He keeps asking akber C to teach him Quran.

14.  He admits to corruption at Rabwah and Qadian.

15. Chanda aik keera hai humaary thumag mayne—kee kee says. What is Zakat vs. Sadaqa? Why doesn’t keekee know?

16. Momin asked about Chanda’s. This was my issue. I was forced to work 7 days a week. Keekee didnt care, as long as he controlled the money.

17. He is rude again…”can I speak?”. He says its his program, and he can behave as he wishes. Jootee say juwab karna? May vee kerra?

18. he tells momin to go and give a lecture. hahahah. He doesnt want to hear us.

19. they accuse us of disrespecting Muhammad (saw).

20.  Excessive chanda. Why? My house leaked water when I was growing up. we were poor. the mullahs would come and steal money from us. Keekee didnt care, in 2003, he made a deal with my father and father did tabligh and abandoned his responsbilities. Keekee then lvoed to give loans…he wanted prestige and respect. My teeth were messed up as a kid, i got no help..I got married, I had to pay the bill.

21. Why did Muhammad (Saw) collect money. The wars. Not a non-profit corporation. Zakat is not monthly. Sadaqa is the category of Ahmadiyya chanda. Muhammad (Saw) needed money during war time. During peace time, the requirements are much less.

22. Muslims gave excessive amounts of money during war. In fact, during Ww-2, Nizam e nau was published and the Khalifa was scared. During war, rules can change. Marrying more than one wife is only during dire circumstances like war and other scenarios.

23. He says poor people in Ahmadiyya give more. This is my life story. Keekee is in mounds of debt, his business is bankrupt, he has refinances his home 2-3 times. Islam teaches to take care of your family first, even after death. Giving money to non-profit global corporations doesnt exist. Islam teaches us to feed our neighbors after our family. In the USA, we pay taxes, in Pakistan, Zia instituted Zakat. A Muslim has a responsibilty to his own city first where he/she may live then the world.

24. He says only Ahmadi’s are sacrficing their lives and money. this is where the Mirza family is guilty of human trafficking, they are just as bad as the Catholic Church.

25. If a man doesnt pay his employees (his children), he needs to pay them. Keekee’s dad owes one of his sons $250,000 dollars. When will that be paid? at his death? How will the jamaat get that money?

26. Why werent the victims of 2010 attack buried in Bahishti Maqbara? Werent they deserving of it.

27. Wasiyyat is even spent on investments. See the Panama Papers.

28. Ahmadiyya is a business. A global non-profit corporation.

29. Keekee illegally went for Hajj. He refinanced a fake-Ahmadi’s house and helped them start businesses.

30. He says that anyone can not pay chanda. But they can make it up later.

31. he says he’s not a Jamaat official. He was president for 9 years.

32. To get asylum, an Ahmadi has to pay chanda for 3-4 years in London, Canada, Germany.

33. Shias have it worse in Pakistan as do Christians, Hindus and Sikhs.

34. he says Shias are also against Ahmadis in Pakistan.

35. Ahmadiyya persecution? But in 1987, https://ahmadiyyafactcheckblog.com/2020/01/24/even-in-1987-there-were-328-ahmadi-officers-in-the-pakistani-military/

36. But I couldnt confess that i wasn’t an ahmadi to them…they would have killed me. They would have fired me. And they did. they forced my wife to hate me.

37. Keekee gave Ahmadi’s so many opportunities. Younus Mirza, Sohaib Yunus, Umair Yunus, Waqar Bajwa, Chris Komari, Ahmadi’s could steal from him, and not even show up to work…Keekee didnt care.

38. Ahmadis got better jobs than the average Pakistani from 1947 to at least 2005. Sohaib Yunus almost killed himself. Most Ahmadis are unqualified. My dad got a job at Wabda. My dad hired Karl. My dad always tried to get employees to convert.

39. Ahmadi’s are the most qualified people in Pakistan? Yunus Mirza? Umair and Sohaib?

40. Mirza Muzzafar Ahmad. So many Ahmadi officers in 1947?  Then keekee admits that there is a preference issue. However, in America, its illegal.

41. What about the Shezan company? Zafrullah Khan getting jobs? Muzaffar Ahmad job at the World bank>?

42. Not everyone can drive a tow truck. Its hard work. He is trying to justify his hiring of Ahmadi’s. He helped Yunus Mirza start his own business.  he wouldnt help me at all.

43. There are barely 40,000 Ahmadi’s in Pakistan and shrinking fast. In India it is much less. Dr. Abdus Salam would call the professors of Ahmadi students and beg them for special treatment. Khurram let his brother in law borrow $3500 in 2004, he gave me the money. He does this to earn sway and buy friends.

44. He claims that Ahmadi’s dont get jobs because they are Ahmadi’s. but there arent any jobs in Rabwah. Only jamaati jobs.

45. In America, if an ahmadi is working in an ahmadi company and he doesnt go to Juma, how will they treat him? IN America…keekee paid Ahmadis cash under the table, and avoided sales taxes.

46. No one who is an ahmadi and who isnt. Do people know that Khurram’s cousins are Ahmadi? In the I-10?

47. But in 2003-2006, my dad went to his village and everyone knew he was an ahmadi. he was never touched.

48. He says that Ahmadis are forced to read prayers at home. that s a lie. I went to the Ahmadiyya place of worship in 2004 in Lala Musa, in the heart of the city. Nothing happened. Belize is much more dangerous than Pakistan.

49. he claims that they are afraid in Pakistan…however, in America/Canada/the Uk and outside, Ahmadis are bold and arrogant and do takfir. they call us murtadeen, they call us atheist and etc.

50. He says again..only Ahmadis are sacrficing their lives and property. NO one else. That’s bold and arrogant.

51. When did Wasiyyat become a monthly payment? Was it 2005?

52.  Did keekee do Wasiyyat? Is he a munafiq? Did Noorudin do wasiyyat?

53. Why did MGA say that paying doesnt get someone into Ahmadi heaven? why the double speak? Didnt he do this with Prophethood and the his claim of being the messiah?

54. If a person doesnt pay chanda…they doubt that he even prays. This is how they felt about me.

55. Qurbani? New world order? The Mirza famiyl wanted to contrl the land of Ahmadi’s. Like they did in Rabwah and Qadian. This is how they control peopple. In fact, in Qadian, the majority of Ahmadis live in poverty.

56. Sadaqa doesnt get anyone into heaven. When someone dies, their debts must be paid first in Islam. My dad owes me 250k. But the Ahmadiyya mvoemetn will force us to sell his house.

57. Keekee doesn’t understand that Zakat is yearly…not monthly. He doesnt understand…poor people are exempt from Zakat and Sadaqa. Sadaqa is only allowed via smiling. However, chanda is mandatory no matter what. Even from welfare money.

58. Abu Bakr brought half his wealth during war. Not during peace and for a non-profit global corporation.

59. But Ahmadis are not Mutaqeen. Ahmadis are anti-islam murtadeen, confirmed by the entire worlds ulema, even Professor johnathan Brown.

 

60. He hated me since 1992 and my other brother.
Unchanged: 61. Keekee quotes 89:15-16. However, he doesn’t quote MGA. What money did MGA ever give? When was this revealed? Keekee is aggressively accusing ex-Ahmadi’s of refusing to pay chanda. What about the man who steals from his family? This ayat has nothing to do with Chanda. Keekee robbed both of his brothers. This doesnt just apply to the orphan. When my dad died, he wants all of that too. Refinancing? Bankruptcies? Is this how? He says Pakistani’s behave like this normally…however, Keekee tries to blame Pakistani’s and not Ahmadi’s. That punishment is not written in the quran..the quran says, when the day of judgement will approach.
Unchanged: 62. keekee then fumbles and can’t answer as to why Bashishit Maqbara exists in the first place.
Unchanged: 63. He goes back to his debate tactics. He can’t be honest, that’s the issue.
Unchanged: 64. He doesn’t like when we give examples. When we give parallels.
Unchanged: 65. Keekee hated me since I was 11-12.
Unchanged: 66. Jamaat Ahmadiyya does force people to pay chanda. They embarass people, and keep asking and keep asking.
Unchanged: 67. They hated me, since I didn’t pay.
Added: 68. excessive begging for chanda.
Added: 69. He doesnt even want to hear us…he called it a lecture.  Hilarious!!!
Added: 70. In America…we dont burn down the houses of those who dont pray…in fact, we dont even ask. Keekee didn’t read the whole hadith. He is being arrogant again.
Added: 71. What masjid did MGA go to for daily prayers from 1840–1876?
Added: 72. Keekee says its his program, he can go whatever he wants.
Added: 73. Abu Bakr only gave during a maj

74. Keekee says he doesnt care where the Ahmadiyya INC uses his money.

75. MGA refused to show accounts.

76.

The Mirza family wanted Chanda even for dead people!!!

Intro
In 1982, a few months after Mirza Tahir Ahmad became Khalifa, he begged Ahmadi’s to pay Chanda under the names of their deceased family members (see Introduction to Financial Sacrifice”, pages 112-113).
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The quote

“How can one be considered dead whose Chanda continues to be paid? We have to reorganise Daftar 1. I want this Daftar to continue till the Last Day. The names of those who have once made exemplary sacrifices for the faith should never be forgotten. Their descendants should continue to pay Chanda on their behalf, and never should we say that even one of them is dead. They are alive in the sight of God and are also living in the form of their sacrifices. We should
continue to witness the signs of their life in this world as well.”

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Links and Related Essay’s

https://ahmadiyyafactcheckblog.com/2020/09/29/the-wasiyyat-scam-by-mirza-ghulam-ahmad/

https://ahmadiyyafactcheckblog.com/2020/07/10/in-america-33-of-the-ahmadi-jamaat-is-paying-84-of-the-chanda-2019/

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In 2005, after 100 years of Wasiyyat, only 38,000 Ahmadi’s worldwide had signed up, that’s less than 1%

Intro
The first 4-Khalifa’s of the Ahmadiyya Movement never really pushed Wasiyyat upon Ahmadi’s. The 2nd Khalifa did give speech at the 1942 Jalsa Salana wherein he was scared of a Japanese invasion and was planning for it. His speech was converted into a purposely mistranslated book, “Nizam e Nau”. Furthermore, Ahmadiyya sources were claiming 200 million Ahmadis in this era. The Khalifa reported that only 38,000 Ahmadi’s in total had signed up for this program. 38,000/200,000,000= that’s not even one percent. MGA had written that anyone who doesn’t sign up for Wasiyyat was a hypocrite (munafiq)(see page 41, online english edition of 2005). Thus, per MGA the majority of Ahmadi’s are hypocritical people.

It was the 5th Khalifa who began to force #ahmadis to join the Wasiyya program. He even had a new english edition of “The Will” (Wasiyyat) 2005 published so that #ahmadis in the west could sign up.

By 2019, in the USA, Mirza Maghfoor Ahmad was complaining that not even 50% of Jamaat-USA had signed up Wasiyyat, it was at 29% and dropping fast.

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2004

He said all of this during his concluding address at the World wide UK Jalsa of 2004. He said:

“…In 2005, Insha’allah it will be a hundred years since this institution (Wasiyyat) was established. The Promised Messiahas established it in 1905…and today, after 99 years, only 38,000 Ahmadis have signed Wasiyyat. Next year, a hundred years will be completed
since the institution of Wasiyyat was established, so as I said earlier, I wish to exhort the Jama‘at to come forward and join this heavenly institution in order to purify their own lives and the lives of their progeny. At least…15,000 new Wasaya should be signed in the following one year.”

Hudur went on to say:

“It is my desire that by 2008, when a hundred years will be completed since the establishment of Khilafat-eAhmadiyya, at least 50% of all Ahmadi earning hands (i.e., the contributors of Chanda) in every country and every Jama‘at should have become part of this great scheme (Wasiyyat) and set new standards in making sacrifices. This will be a small token of gratitude from the Jama‘at to Allah Almighty at the completion of hundred years since Khilafat was established….The people who join this institution should, according to the Promised Messiahas be such, who desire a virtuous end and are regular in their worship. For this purpose, the best time is when one is young….Therefore, Khuddamul Ahmadiyya, Saf-e-dum of Ansarullah and
Lajna Ima’illah should try their best to take part in this Divine scheme, because when one reaches the age of seventy and above, and is lingering on the edge of the grave, he has only leftovers to offer. So I hope that young men and ladies will take part in it with full zeal, and I especially wish to address the ladies, that they should try to bring their children and husbands to this revolutionary scheme….”

Concluding Speech at Jalsa Salana UK 2004
See, “Introduction to Financial Sacrifice”

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1907 edition of Al-Wasiyyat

Al Wasiyat, 1907 edition
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In 1925, the Khalifa himself volunteered to teach at the new Girls school in Qadian

Intro
In 1925, the Ahmadiyya Khalifa (who was a total predator) volunteered to teach young Ahmadi girls at the new Madrasatul Khawateen, a school for women, to spread religious education among women. Apart from Hadhrat Maulawi Sher Ali Sahib(ra), Hadhrat Syed Waliullah Shah Sahib(ra), Hadhrat Sufi Ghulam Muhammad Sahib(ra) and other scholars, including Hadhrat Mirza Bashir-ud-Din Mahmud Ahmad(ra), Khalaifatul Masih II, himself used to teach there. Hadhrat Maulawi Sher Ali Sahib(ra) was the administrator of the school. Its graduates included teachers and workers for women’s central offices and educational institutes.

We suspect foul play with the girls at this school. More to come in the future.

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Links and Related Essay’s

The Establishment of Lajna Ima’illah and the Sacrifices of Early Ahmadi Muslim Women

Mirza Ghulam Ahmad claimed that 66:12 of the Quran was revealed about himself via when he got pregnant in 1884

Intro
Most of the writings of Mirza Ghulam Ahmad are sick and twisted. In this specific case, he claims that 66:12 of the Quran was revealed about himself. This was how and why MGA claimed to have gotten pregnant by Allah in the 1884 era. MGA said many disrespectful things about Maryam (ra), see them here. This specific quotation (66:12) was published in BA-5, which was published after MGA died (oct-1908) and thus heavily edited by Noorudin. MGA was claiming that the same way that Allah breathed his spirit (ruh) into Esa (as), MGA had the same thing happen to him. This is how MGA explains how he became Esa (as)(nauzobillah). It should be noted that in the official 5-volume commentary on the quran (1988 edition) by the Qadiani-Ahmadi’s doesn’t connect MGA to this verse, nor did Muhammad Ali in 1917 via his famous commentary. MGA made the same argument via 21:92.

MGA also gives the same argument in Nuzul ul Masih (1909), see Tadhkirah.

MGA also disrespected Nuh (as), Yusuf (as), Esa (as) and Muhammad (Saw) countless times. He also disrespected Abu Hurraira, Imam Hussain and his mother Fatima (ra), and many others.

Ahmadi’s have written that the arabic word “feehee” means him, whereas the consensus of
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66:12 of the Quran
https://quran.com/66

“””And [the example of] Mary, the daughter of ‘Imran, who guarded her chastity, so We blew into [her garment] through Our angel, and she believed in the words of her Lord and His scriptures and was of the devoutly obedient.””

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The quote
Barahin-i-Ahmadiyya, volume-5, online english edition see pages 135-137

“”But the question is: Why do the Hadith refer to the one who will become ‘Isa from this Ummah as being Ibn Maryam [the Son of Mary], whereas he is not the son of Maryam? Know, therefore, that this confusion that afflicts the minds of the ignorant has been cleared in Surah Tahrim of the Holy Quran in which certain individuals of this Ummah have been likened to Maryam, and the spirit of ‘Isa is said to have been breathed into them. This clearly shows that some individual from this Ummah would first attain the status of Maryam and then the spirit would be breathed into this ‘Maryam’, who will then be elevated and called ‘Ibn Maryam’.

Someone may question, ‘If this is true, then there should have been some reference to this in your revelations too.’ Let me say in reply that this point was not only hinted at, but also fully expounded upon in the previous parts of Barahin-e-Ahmadiyya twenty-five years ago, wherein—by way of a subtle simile—I have been described as Ibn Maryam. You may take the book in your hands and find that, in the beginning, God named me ‘Maryam’ and said:

یا مریم اسكن انت وزوجك الجنۃ

Meaning: ‘Enter Paradise O Maryam, you and your companion.’

Then, many pages later, which were written quite some time later, God Almighty said:

یا مریم نفختُ فیك من لدنی روح الصدق

Meaning: ‘O Maryam, I have breathed into you the spirit of truth.’ This breathing was a spiritual conception—so to speak—for the words used here are the same as the Holy Quran uses with regard to Maryam the Truthful when the spirit was breathed into her, which meant that she became pregnant and the pregnancy resulted in the birth of ‘Isa. In the same way, He said to me that the spirit had been breathed into me, and so this was a spiritual conception. Then later in the same book, I was addressed as ‘Isa, for after the breathing of the divine spirit, the state of Maryam was ready to be transformed into ‘Isa, and this state is metaphorically described as conception. And, finally, from this Maryam-like state, emerged ‘Isa. It was to signify this that I was named ‘Isa towards the end of the book, while at the beginning I had been called ‘Maryam’.

Now reflect with decency, fairness, and piety on this verse of Surah Tahrim in which certain persons of this Ummah have been likened to Maryam, and which then speaks of the breathing of the spirit into Maryam—signifying the conception that would result in the birth of ‘Isa. And then read all these portions from the previous parts of Barahin-e-Ahmadiyya and have fear of God and look how He first named me ‘Maryam’ and then spoke of the spirit being breathed into me, and at the end of the book declared me ‘Isa, born of this Maryam’s spiritual conception.”””

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https://quran.com/66

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