Intro
If you are following the conversation on the “age-controversy of MGA” then this information shows the true purpose of the Ahmadiyya Movement, i.e. to confuse and cover up the errors and failures of MGA.
In 1922, Mufti Muhammad Sadiq had written 1837 on page 49. This is the 3rd edition in the history of the magazine. In the first and second issues, MGA’s birth year is not mentioned. Technically, in 1926, Mufti Muhammad Sadiq changed MGA’s year of birth to 1835 (see Zikr-e-Habib). You will see that they used 1836 as MGA’s birth year starting in Dec 1930 (see page 5).
The 2nd Quarter 1946 edition, See page 5
_____________________________________________________________________________________________The January, 1922 edition gives MGA’s year as 1837
Mufti Muhammad Sadiq had written 1837 on page 49. This is the 3rd edition in the history of the magazine. In the first and second issues, MGA’s birth year is not mentioned.
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1930
The Winter 1930 edition gives 1836
Sufi Bangalee, the Ahmadiyya missionary in-charge (and editor) listed MGA’s birth year as 1836, under a heading wherein MGA’s name appears, it is followed by “1836-1908” (see page 5).
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The 2nd Quarter 1946 edition
See page 5
vol_18_1946.tif (muslimsunrise.com)
Ahmadi missionaries (specifically Sufi Muti-ur-Rahman Bengali and Khalil Ahmad Nasir) continued to write 1836 as the birth year of MGA, they wrote this in almost every single issue. The reason it needed to be written was as follows, in the format of the magazine, first they quote the quran, then Muhammad, then MGA. When they wrote his name, they also wrote 1836-1908, thus it is easy to figure out (wink wink).
_____________________________________________________________________________________________The 3rd quarter of 1946 edition changed it to 1835
You will see that as soon as new murrabi’s came from India, the date changed to 1835 (see page 5)(Khalil Ahmad Nasir was relieving Sufi Muti-ur-Rahman Bengali).
_____________________________________________________________________________________________Mufti Muhammad Sadiq and his fake degrees
Starting from the 1921 edition, Sadiq lies about obtaining honorary degrees. So sad to see this.
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Happy Birthday to You Mirza Ghulam
Mirza Ghulam Ahmad Qadiani (died on May 26, 1908 CE) wrote in one of his Arabic writings which were received by revelation:
((My opponents wished my death; they spread the news everywhere about it, but my Lord gave the good news that I will live for eighty years or more. He also gave me an organization, sons and a shelter)) – RK, vol 19, Mawahib-ur-Rahman, page 21
Now let us try to find out the exact date of birth of Mirza Ghulam Ahmad Qadiani (MGAQ) based on his own writings.
Year 1839 or 1840
MGAQ wrote: ((My birth took place in 1839 or 1840, during the last part of the Sikh period, and in 1857 I was 16 years of age or in my 17th year; my beard and mustache had not yet started)) – Rouhani Khaza’in, vol 13, Kitab ul Bariyyah, page 177
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Friday, 14th of the Lunar Month
MGAQ wrote: ((This humble one was born on Friday, on the day 14 of the lunar month)) – Rouhani Khaza’in, vol 17, Tuhfa Golravea, page 281
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During Phalguna Hindu Month
A follower of MGAQ, Mufti Muhammad Sadiq, wrote ((The Promised Messiah peace be upon him said “my month of birth was Phaagun/Phalguna (a month of the Hindu calendar); it was the day 14 of the lunar month; the day was Friday, and the time was the last part of nightâ€)) – Zikr Habeeb, pages 238 & 239.
The date which satisfies all the above mentioned conditions is:
- Gregorian Calendar : Friday 1-March-1839 A.D.
- Islamic Calendar: 14 Dhu’l Hijjah 1254 A.H.
- Hindu Calendar: Phalguna 16, 1895 V.E.
Online Gregorian-to-Islamic dates conversion
http://www.rabiah.com/convert/convert.php3 OR http://www.islamicfinder.org/Hcal/index.php
Online Gregorian-to-Hindu dates conversion
http://web.meson.org/calendars
Personally, I don’t really trust MGAQ’s claim that he was born on Friday or 14th of the lunar month or during Phalguna. Apparently, MGAQ wanted to claim that his date of birth was somehow special, for Friday is a special day for Muslims, day 14 of the lunar month has a full moon night and Phalguna is a special month in Hindu religion. However, I have done this small research just to expose the lies of the Ahmadiyya leaders who finally claimed that MGAQ’s actual date of birth is 13-Feb-1835 based on his writings.
It is crystal clear that the Ahmadiyya leaders just wanted to push MGAQ’s date of birth far away from 1839/1840 to give him closer age to 75. However, the date 13-Feb-1835 which they suggested didn’t fall in the Hindu month of Phalguna.
Ahmadis claim that 13-Feb-1835 is 1-Phalguna-1891 V.E., while the correct calculation shows that 13-Feb-1835 falls in the previous Hindu month, exactly on 15-Magha-1891 V.E.
Here is the result as per http://web.meson.org/calendars
However, just for the sake of argument, if we’ll accept the Ahmadiyya’s false claim that 15-Magha in the calculations of http://web.meson.org is equivalent to 1-Phalguna, this will still expose their shameful lies. Based on the same Ahmadi’s false assumption, the nearest Friday 15-Megha to the years 1839/1840, 14th of the lunar month is 9-Feb-1838.
Here is the result as per http://web.meson.org/calendars
Moreover, based on the Ahmadi’s false calculations, the date 1-March-1839 can be considered 30-Phalguna-1895 V.E. since they should accept +/- 1 day accuracy for the Hindu lunar date calculations.
I wonder when the Ahmadiyya Cult’s leaders would stop their dirty tactics and their continuous attempts to hide the truth.
24 THOUGHTS ON “HAPPY BIRTHDAY TO YOU MIRZA GHULAM”
_____________________________________________________________________________________________Links and Related Essays
MGA was born in 1839, per the ROR of June 1906 and many other sources
Maulana Nur-ud-Din wrote a book entitled “Nur-ul-Din” (1904)–MGA was born in 1839
Izala Auham (1891), Part-1 and 2, quotes and background information
Mirza Ghulam Ahmad swears that he was nearly 60 years old in 1901
Who is Mufti Muhammad Sadiq (1872-1957)? – ahmadiyyafactcheckblog
“Ahmad, The Messenger of the Latter Days”, full book, by Mirza Basheer ud Din Mahmud Ahmad (1924)
“Zikr-e-Habib” by Mufti Muhammad Sadiq (1926) – ahmadiyyafactcheckblog
The Punjab Chiefs by Lepel Griffin (1865, 1890 and 1909 edition), its data and scans
ASLE MUSAFFA (Pure Honey) by Mureed Khuda Bakhsh Qadiani (1902), MGA was born in 1839-40
The Moslem Sunrise on the Date of Birth of Mirza Ghulam Ahmad, 1836 or 1837?
Ahmadiyya leadership about the Date-of-Birth of Mirza Ghulam Ahmad
MGA was born in 1839, per the ROR of June 1906 and many other sources
Click to access 1922_issue_1.pdf
Click to access 1946_iss_3.pdf
Click to access 1930_iss_4.pdf
Click to access 1930_iss_4.pdf
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Nice work akhi!
The entire “age theory” of MGAQ has a direct connection with those authentic hadith reports that speak of the return of Esa (as). These reports tell us that Esa (as) will live 40 years after his return. This is why MGAQ announced in 1880 that he would live for another 40 years. MGAQ was setting up to claim to be Esa (as) as early as 1880.
Great work mashallah!
Allahu Akbar, may Allah SWT reward your hard efforts abundantly!
This may seem a bit off topic, but can you do an article on their TV station? I’ve been watching this lately and it’s so extremely boring! I mean REALLY boring! 3/4 of their stuff is in Urdu and just rotates around their “Kilafa” as if he’s some sort of Hollywood star on the red carpet :s
Asalamoalaikum,
In regards to the ‘urdu’ remark you have made, a lot of programmes available are translated into many different languages. Not just urdu. If you are watching on SKY, you can change your language to one you prefer including, english, german, arabic, french, russian, bengali and some more I can’t remember from the top of my head.
=]
Wasalaam
actually i downloaded an TV app on mozilla and one of the channels is the qadiani one..i’m not from the UK so i hav no idea what Sky is…i’ve seen some things in arabic (for what though, how many arab qadianis are there? like 30?), Indonesian and English but most of the stuff is in Urdu.
but yes zia Ahmad…I’m shocked about the glorification of Mirza Masroor and the rest of the heads, it’s like watching a Turk channel and Ataturk :s! At first i was ok, maybe they’ll just do one minute of this stupidness…but it went on and on and on!
there channel is really really boring
its like a propoganda channel where most of the time its about praising mirza masroor and past ceos
If you want action and excitement watch Peace-TV with “Scholar” Zakir Naik.. MTA is for educated people so of course you will find it boring.
Educated people? Boring slideshows of your Kilafa walking on red carpet, or Urdu Qasidahs overlooking your temple, or just pointless and endless interviews by the heads of Qadianism? Sorry, actual Islam, about Quran and Hadith is what i like…not self glorification of Mirza Masoor..
Here are the Proofs from his own writings:
Proof No.1
Meri paidaish 1839 ya 1840 main sikhon key aakhari waqat main hui (Kitab al-bariyyah page 159)
Proof No.2
1857 main me 16 ya 17 baras ka tha
(ROHANI KHAZAIN Vol-13 page 177)
[1857-17 = 1840]
Proof No. 3
“meri umar qareban 35-36 baras ki ho gi jab hazrat walid sahib ka intaqal hua”
(ROHANI KHAZAIN Vol-13 page 192)
Hakim Ghulam Murtaza died on 20th August 1875
(ROHANI KHAZAIN-18 Page 585)
[1875-36 = 1839]
Proof No.4
“Masih maud farmaatay thay jab Sultan Ahmad paida hua uss waqt hamari umar sirf 16 saal ki thee”
(seerat-ul-mahdi page-256)
“Khan Bahadur Mirza Sultan Ahmad 1856 main paida huay”
(seerat-ul-mahdi page-196-197)
[1856-16 = 1840]
Proof No.5
4 November, 1905
“Meri umar 67 saal hay” (infront of many ppl in Jalsa)
(Lecture Ludhehana ROHANI KHAZAIN vol-20 page 293)
[1905-67=1839]
Proof No. 6
Mirza Ghulam himself said that his year of birth was 1939 in the short autobiography which he wrote in 1897 and which appeared in his book Al-Kitab al-Bariyya
Here are the Proofs from his own writings:
Proof No.1
Meri paidaish 1839 ya 1840 main sikhon key aakhari waqat main hui (Kitab al-bariyyah page 159)
Proof No.2
1857 main me 16 ya 17 baras ka tha
(ROHANI KHAZAIN Vol-13 page 177)
[1857-17 = 1840]
Proof No. 3
“meri umar qareban 35-36 baras ki ho gi jab hazrat walid sahib ka intaqal hua”
(ROHANI KHAZAIN Vol-13 page 192)
Hakim Ghulam Murtaza died on 20th August 1875
(ROHANI KHAZAIN-18 Page 585)
[1875-36 = 1839]
Proof No.4
“Masih maud farmaatay thay jab Sultan Ahmad paida hua uss waqt hamari umar sirf 16 saal ki thee”
(seerat-ul-mahdi page-256)
“Khan Bahadur Mirza Sultan Ahmad 1856 main paida huay”
(seerat-ul-mahdi page-196-197)
[1856-16 = 1840]
Proof No.5
4 November, 1905
“Meri umar 67 saal hay” (infront of many ppl in Jalsa)
(Lecture Ludhehana ROHANI KHAZAIN vol-20 page 293)
[1905-67=1839]
Proof No. 6
Mirza Ghulam himself said that his year of birth was 1939 in the short autobiography which he wrote in 1897 and which appeared in his book Al-Kitab al-Bariyya
I know this is also off topic but does any one know about Alaouite dynasty in Morocco
I was never able to locate or figure out as to when Mirza Bashir Ahmad changed the date of the birth of MGAQ. Rumor is that he did some “special research” which set the date at 1835. This “special research” was probably done somewhere in the 1930’s or 40’s.
Still ranting and raving amongst each other are we? If some non-Muslim came to this site he would think it’s a re-union of the fundees… and btw a few copied and pasted bits of texts are not proof for anything. Only very ignorant people would accept it as proof… I suppose you lot being mainly Pakistanis this is more than enough. Enjoying the floods by the way?
^ this is just another reason why I left Ahmadiyyat. Did u enjoy the massacre at Lahore on that day? A muslim should never be happy when innocent people die. But then I remember…you arent muslim.
This isnt copy and paste you half-wit. This is detailed research that a simpleton like Masroor wouldnt be able to complete. Masroor doesnt even speak arabic. How do you feel that your grand wizard cant even speak or write in the language of Islam? On top of that he cant even do a speech in english…
99.9% of ahmadis are blind followers. You guys know nothing. Your just a bandwagon of “blow-hards”.
Mohsin would you like to post any comment on the topic? or u are in state of denial as well? 🙂
i once debated with a Qadiani online and this topic came up and i asked him about Mirzas prophecy regarding his age of demise and his reply was he died at the age of 76 but i said according to Mirzas own writings he said he was 16 or 17 in 1857 which was the year of the Indian mutiny so this would make him 68-69 at the time of his death in 1908 but I replied but how can u ignore Mirzas own writings which he clearly states his birth falls at the end of the Sikh rule which came to a end in 1839
but he stilled ignored this basic fact and chose to believe in the fabricated documents they cant even make up their own mind regarding this simple basic fact they dont even believe in thier own founders writings LOL
@ Mohsin
**If you want action and excitement watch Peace-TV with “Scholar†Zakir Naik.. MTA is for educated people so of course you will find it boring. **
Educated people ? You mean people who can’t do normal speeches without paper reading ?
Ask your paper reading CEO of the business Mr Masroor to have a talk with the speaker not * scholar * Dr Zakir Naik. That would be a real entertainment for * educated * people like you !
Your MTA is always a sleepy circus show with clowns like you around enjoying it…
@ Mohsin
**Still ranting and raving amongst each other are we? If some non-Muslim came to this site he would think it’s a re-union of the fundees… and btw a few copied and pasted bits of texts are not proof for anything. **
Seriously genius anything to the topic ? You got the proofs infront of you and your cultish cat is out of the bag…go run after it and come back if you have anything useful to say and to the topic..
**Only very ignorant people would accept it as proof… I suppose you lot being mainly Pakistanis this is more than enough. Enjoying the floods by the way?**
Its your charlatan’s writings , whats the matter ? Scared to face the truth ?
About your childish comment about the floods ; that shows the amount of hatred level of yours and what a childish approach you have to believe in it as some * punishment * for not accepting your opium wine drinking prophet…
May Allah SWT guide you away from this falsehood and provide you with a brain.
Mohsin you look like a nut-case, very similar in mental make-up to your opium laden psuedo prophet!
Glad to know you guys watch MTA.. if you hate it so much don’t watch it, no one forced you to watch boring praises to Allah and prophet muhammad pbuh.. you are write it msut be boring since all MTA talk about is islam, sorry we do not have reema, katrina kaif and mera dancing half naked on our TV.
What i don’t understand is why watch it when you don’t like? and your site have same ppl commenting everytime, need more attention? well its ramadhan time, pray to Allah he may listen to you and guide you people to the right path.. As Allah says in Quran. The Path of those upon whom Thou hast betowed favors, Not of those upon whom Thy wrath is brought down, nor of those who go astray.
look around and you will see where Allah has betowed his favors, and where Allah has brought down wrath.
^ i was forced to watch MTA as a child. MTA is brainwashing 101. Mirza Tahir Ahmad used this as a tool to brainwash the masses. I was born an ahmadi, now I am muslim. Mirza Tahir got riiiich off of this endeavor. He was like Adolph Hitler.
We watch MTA to find clues and mistakes that your cult makes. And believe me…the fact that your grand wizard can only speak one language is evidence enough that he was given the job based on his hereditary connection to the movement. I predict that as soon as the khilafat leaves the “royal family”, Ahmadiyyat will crumble. A really good Muslim Imam speaks arabic or can write his own speeches, or looks ahead when giving a speech. And they dont get driven around in BMW’s or Mercedes.
In retrospect, your cult has turned women into “ninjas”. Believe it or not, but women can actually be leaders in Islam and probably do a better job than most men. Muhammad (saw) gave women liberties and respect, whereas your DAD wont even allow them to show anything besides their eyes. And he has relegated them to second class citizens.
You should learn about the islamic organizations here in the USA, ever heard of CAIR? You should learn how muslims in the USA allow women to become presidents and secretaries etc etc. Whereas, Ahmadiyyat only allows women to lead their own small organizations.
Muslims encourage women to be like Ayesha. Ahmadiyyat encourages women to be kung fu ninjas….and thats without going to east Asia for training.
Do the math DUMB DUMB….
Waheed like always u ahmadies never talks on topic specially when it is related to Mirza Ghulam
and Favor what? so called khalifah living under queen is u call favor.
flood come before yes they remind us to become better muslim and show the might of ALLAH
but ur so called Khalifah living under rule of queen where he even cant implement his decision is real warth of God rather than these floods
plus you see MGA has been proven wrong again from his own writings truth is infront of u and still ur denial
think before it gets too Late
May ALLAH guide you to Islam