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We have recently wrote extensively about MGA and his debate in Delhi with Nadhir Hussain in Oct of 1891. We have found additional information from the Ishaat us Sunnah Magazine which explains what MGA did during these debates.
Ishaat us Sunnah, Volume-14 , publication Year 1891, pages 2 onwards:
______________________________________________________________________________________________MIRZA QADIANI AND HIS CIRCUS IN LUDHIANA AND DEHLI
In July 1891 Mirza Ghulam Qadiani had a debate with Molana Muhammad Hussain Batalvi at Ludhiana and ran away from there on 31 July. After being humiliated at Ludhiana, Mirza in his Ishtihar dated Ist August 1891, invited Batalvi sb to have debate with him at Lahore. Batalvi sb replied that he is ready to debate with him at Lahore Peshawar or Qadian. Mirza sb backed out.
He then planned to try his luck at Dehli. He reached Dehli in October, 1891, where he published an Ishtihar challenging Molvi Syed Nazir Hussain for a debate he also put the name of Molvi Abdul Haq in his Ishtihar. Mirza Qadiani thought Molvi Nazir and Abdul Haq, due to their old age, would not come to face him and Molana Batalvi would also be far away from Dehli so he would get a “walk over.”
What happened was that Molvi Abdul Haq accepted the challenge and Molana Muhammad Hussain Batalvi (ever chasing MGQ), also reached Dehli. Before the arrival of Molana Muhammad Hussain Batalvi, Mirza Qadiani had negotiated the debate on the following un reasonable terms and conditions:-
a.)Special permission of Deputy Commissioner should be issued in his name.
b.)A European officer should be ever present in the gathering.
c.) Debators should write with their hands and read over to public no munshi or Scribe is permitted.
But when Muhammad Hussain Batalvi reached Dehli, Mirza Qadiani went to Molana Abdul Haq and said your name was mentioned in the debate erroneously . He said I do not want to debate with you. Molvi Abdul Haq said he is ready to withdraw if you publish an ishtihar to this effect. So Mirza sb issued an Ishtihar on 6th of October saying that he do not want to debate with Molvi Abdul haq because he had met him and found him a monk like person. He do not like to interact with govt officials hence he would debate only with Nazir Hussain who may keep Muhammad Hussain Batalvi with him for assistance during debate.
This trick, however failed when Molvi Abdul Haq replied in a published Ishtihar that he can arrange anything and invited Mirza sb to come to the Town Hall on 11th October for this debate otherwise he would be termed as liar. Mean time Muhammad Hussain Batalvi published Ishtihar inviting Mirza sb to have debate with him if he loses than Mirza sb may debate with Molvi Nazir Hussain. He requested him to come to the Chandni Mahal on 11th Oct, 1891 at 9.AM. The ishtihar further states that all terms and conditions laid by you are acceptable and we do not lay any terms and condition from our side. All arrangements have been finalised with the expenditures of hand sum amount.
Mirza sb replied that he hates to debate with Molvi Muhammad Hussain and would have it with Molvi Nazir Hussain only. This refusal was accepted by Molvi Nazir Hussain and Mirza sb was informed that his challenge to Debate with Molvi Nazir Hussain, has been accepted and he must come to Chandni Mahal on 11th Oct. However Mirza sb breached this agreement on the pretext of law and order situation and wrote a letter to defer this debate till Ghulam Qadir would inform Deputy Commissioner.
On 5th October, Molvi Nazir Hussain wrote to Mirza to come to his house and talk to him directly to remove his apprehensions, still Mirza sb refused and said there should be a European officer in the debate. After that 14 letters were sent to Mirza sb for debate from Ulema of Dehli inviting Mirza sb but he refused to all.
One of them was Molvi Abdul Majeed who invited Mirza sb and offered a reward money of Rs 1000/-in case Mirza prove his claims.Molvi Rahim Bakhsh invited Mirza, Molvi Mujaddid Ali Khan too invited Mirza sb for debate on 10th Oct at Masjid Fatehpuri , Molvi Abdul Hamid invited Mirza sb to come to the roof top of his house and he would be at his roof top, there would be Bazar between two and no risk of life would be there, but Mirza sb did not agree and dared not to come out of his heavily guarded house.
Mirza Ghulam Qadiani,s escape from debate of Chandni Mahal brought great humiliations to him. So he thought of washing of this defamation. He brought another Ishtihar dated 17 Oct 1891 wherein he used abusive language against Molvi Nazir Hussain and challenged to declare him liar in his claims and in his arguments under oath in open before general public. Molvi Nazir Hussain went to Jamia Masjid Dehli with general public and sent message to Mirza sb that he is ready to give such statement under oath now come to us in Jamia Masjid and state your claims and arguments before us.
This message was given to Mirza sb through Nawab Saeeduddin Khan of Loharo, Molvi Abdul Majid and Mir Basharat Hussain Kotwal City. Mirza sb refused to this.
After prayer Molvi Abdul Majid, Nawab Saeeduddin Khan and Syed Bashir Hussain Inspector Police went to Mirza sb and asked him to give them in writing that he would repent if Molvi Nazir Hussain rejects his claims and arguments on oath. Mirza sb got puzzled on this demand and remained silent. However, his deputy Mullahs stood up and said we would repent after one month subject to the condition that Molvi Nazir Hussain would not fall ill or suffer from fever and headache during this period.
Subsequently, few questions were asked from Mirza sb through the City Superintendent Sahab Bahdur, as under:-
City Superintendent: why Do you not cut short your arguments and agree to give a written statement.
MGQ and his Side:- we want to talk on the life and death issue of Jesus Pbuh and nothing else.
Molvi Abdul Majid :-We want to settle this issue including all of your claims. Do you have a proof to your claim of Messiah ship.
MGQ and side : same answer.
City Superintendent:- Addressing to Mirza sb, Are you Messiah? If yes what is the proof? Suppose Jesus has died then why should you be considered a Messiah give us a proof?
MGQ. :-Remains silence.
Khwaja Muhammad Yusuf from MGQ side: addressing to Molvi Sahib , Hazrat if someone wants to be muslim why do do you not allow him to be?
Molvi sb. Yes if he repents he is our brother!
Khwaja sb. I can bring his written repentance just now. He would write it down that whatever he wrote against Quraan and Hadis is rejected and he is a muslim.
Mirza sb wrote repentance but in the same language as that of he published in his Ishtihar of 12 October.
Molvi sb. He should write that he seeks repentance from Allah for whatever anti Islam he wrote in Tozihula maram, Fathe Islam and Izala auham.
After few more meaningless exchanges between the parties, the City Superintendent Sahab Bahadur announces to end the proceeding and Mirza sb and his deputy mullahs returned under police escort.
_____________________________________________________________________________________________Links and Related Essays
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https://ahmadiyyafactcheckblog.com/2019/01/14/who-is-syed-muhammad-hussain-batalvi-1840-1920/
https://ahmadiyyafactcheckblog.com/2019/02/06/zikr-e-habib-by-mufti-muhammad-sadiq-1936/
https://ahmadiyyafactcheckblog.com/2018/12/25/mirza-ghulam-ahmad-vs-molana-muhammad-hussain-batalvi-and-muslims-leaders-in-british-india-in-august-of-1891/
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Syed_Nazeer_Husain
https://ahmadiyyafactcheckblog.com/?s=ghos
thttps://ahmadiyyafactcheckblog.com/2017/11/05/mirza-ghulam-ahmad-embarrassed-noorudin-in-1891/
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