Intro
In 1923 (via Seeratul-Mahdi, Narration# 109, Vol.1 Page 88, New Edition), Noorudin allegedly said that he didn’t care if MGA had even claimed to be a law-bearing prophet and abrogated the sharia, Noorudin would have still accepted all of MGA’s utterances. Further, we all know that Noorudin was the main ghost-writer for MGA. We also know that Noorudin was friends with Sir Syed and learned his islamic theories directly from Sir Syed. Noorudin was out of a job in the early 1890’s and seems to have pressured MGA to make many claims. This narration by Mirza Bashir Ahmad isn’t dated. We needed to know when this happened? Was it before Nov-1901?? Or after? In that same era, and via Arba‘in, Ruhani Khaza’in, vol. 17, MGA was essentially claiming to be a law-bearing prophet (The quote is in the below).

In 1911, there was an Ahmadi who opened declared that MGA was a law-bearing prophet. His name was Zaheer-uddin, he is mentioned heavily by Muhammad Ali and Mahmud Ahmad in their discussions on the prophethood of MGA. Nonetheless, Nooruddin didn’t expel Zaheeruddin til a few years later when he began claiming to be the rightly Khalifa.

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_____________________________________________________________________________________________The quote
Narration# 109…
Seerat ul Mahdi Vol.1 Page 88 (New Edition)

“….This is just a matter of nabuwwat. My imaan/belief is that if hazrat maseeh mowwod claimed to be a law-bearing- prophet, and abrogated qur’aani-law, even then i will not object, because i have found him to be truthful and munjabullah. So whatever he states, that will be the truth, and i/we will believe that ‘khatamalnabiyeen’ has different meaning….”

Transliteration
“””””ye to sirf nabuwat ki baath hai, mera toh emaan hai key agar hazrat maseeh mowood sahib shar’eeat nabi honay ka dawah karein aur quraany shareeat ko mansookh karaadein to phir be mujay inkhaar na hogah, kyunkay jab ham nay aap ko wakiya saadik aur munjab-nabullah paya hai, toh jo bee aap farma’in ke wohee hak hoga, aur ham samajlein kay ayat katamalnabiyeen ke aur ma’nay hon gay’””””””

The scan
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_____________________________________________________________________________________________Arba‘in, RK-17, page 435

In 1900, MGA was discreetly claiming prophethood


“”My teachings contain orders as well as prohibitions and renovations of important injunctions of the Shariat. For this reason, God has named my teachings and revelations (Wahi) that comes to me as FALAK (Boat)….thus, see, God has declared my revelations, my teachings and my allegiance to be Noah’s Ark and as the basis of salvation for all human beings. Let him who has eyes see and him who has ears hear”””

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Links and Related Essays

Was Noorudin the Ghost-writer of MGA?

In 1900, MGA was discreetly claiming prophethood – ahmadiyyafactcheckblog

In 1900, MGA was discreetly claiming prophethood

Noorudin and Abdul Karim were influenced by Sir Syed

Mufti Muhammad Sadiq was a student of Noorudin, pre-1891

“The utter extinction of Jihad” (1902) by Mirza Ghulam Ahmad

MGA forced Noorudin to pretend to be Hanafi, even though he was a Wahabbi aka Ahl-e-Hadith

Mirza Ghulam Ahmad embarrassed Noorudin in 1891

Amatul Hayee or Amtul Hai, the daughter of Nooruddin and the wife of the 2nd Khalifa, Mirza Basheer-uddin mahmud Ahmad, and her mysterious death

Mirza Ghulam Ahmad claimed to be the FINAL BRICK of prophets!!!!

According to Mirza Ghulam Ahmad, he manifested more than 1 million (10 lakh) miracles/signs and the Prophet (saw) manifested only 3000

In 1891, Mirza Ghulam Ahmad and his team argued that a Prophet could never be a follower of another prophet 4:64

Do Ahmadis believe in the same Kalima as Muslims?

In 1911, Maulvi Abdullah Timapuri claimed to be the leader (Khalifa) of Ahmadi’s

http://wiki.qern.org/ha-walters-the-ahmadiya-movement/chapter-ii-2-the-distinctive-claims-of-ahmad—the-expected-mahdi

Do Ahmadis believe in the same Kalima as Muslims?

Noorudin didn’t care if Mirza Ghulam Ahmad claimed even law-bearing prophethood

Click to access splitahmadiyyamovement.pdf

Mirza Ghulam Ahmad got stroked during prayers

“Islami Qurbani” by Qazi Yar Mohammed (1920) Printed at Riaz-e-hind Press, Amritsar, District KANGRA

http://wiki.qern.org/ahmadiyya/organisations/qadiani-claimants/abdullah-timapuri

“Nabi-ullah Ka Zahoor” aka “Appearance of the Prophet of Allah” ( April of 1911) by Muhammad Zahir al-Din – ahmadiyyafactcheckblog

“Nabi-ullah Ka Zahoor” aka “Appearance of the Prophet of Allah” ( April of 1911) by Muhammad Zahir al-Din

Who is Maulvi Muhammad Ali in the history of Ahmadiyya? – ahmadiyyafactcheckblog

Who is Maulvi Muhammad Ali in the history of Ahmadiyya?

An Ahmadi claimed prophethood in late-1901 or early 1902, and was boycotted by Ahmadis–Charagh Din of Jammu (Jamooni)

“Nabi-ullah Ka Zahoor” aka “Appearance of the Prophet of Allah” ( April of 1911) by Muhammad Zahir al-Din

Click to access Truth-about-the-Split.pdf

The 1923 edition of Seeratul Mahdi – ahmadiyyafactcheckblog

The 1923 edition of Seeratul Mahdi

Who is Mirza Bashir Ahmad? – ahmadiyyafactcheckblog

Who is Mirza Bashir Ahmad?

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