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Intro
Thanks to Hani Tahir, we have obtained some interesting references which link MGA to the concept of abrogation. At a minimum…MGA would forget his own revelations…and he would say that he would get “new ones” in their place. This is from later on in MGA’s career, after 1901. Further, Noorudin rejected abrogation as early as 1877-ish, as he totally agreed with everything that Sir Syed wrote (see Noorudin, by Zaf Khan). Check out MGA on 2:106 herein and other quotes from him about abrogation.

In 1903, (Al-Badr, Volume 2, number 7, number 6/3/1903, p. 50), MGA alleged that he forgets his wahi and gets new wahi, and he quoted 2:106.

It seems that towards the end of MGA’s life (May-1908), MGA was arguing that his famous doomsday Earthquake prophecy had been averted via 2:106, and further, MGA’s God issues an order in the morning and has the full authority to change it at night (Via Malfuzat-10, online English edition, page 473).

After MGA died, his son, the 2nd Qadiani-Khalifa abrogated (See Haqiqatun Nubuwwat, 1915) all of the writings by MGA on prophethood before 1901.

2:106 (2:107 in the Qadiani Quran and 16:101 (16:02 in the Qadiani Quran) are the two “verses of abrogation” contained in the Quran. — Qur’an 2:106, When We substitute one revelation for (another) revelation, – and Allah knows best what He reveals (in stages),– they say, “Thou art but a forger”: but most of them understand not. Chapter 16 was revealed before Hijra and Chapter 2 right after Hijra.
Continue reading “Mirza Ghulam Ahmad seems to have supported Abrogation” →

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Today, Ahmadis will run around doing Corporate Social Responsibility, they claim to love all religions and they pretend to work with all religions in harmony, however, MGA was different, much different.  In fact, he hated all religions of the world.

Here are some quotes:

Continue reading “Mirza Ghulam Ahmad hated Hindus!!!!” →

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If a Qadiani-Ahmadi ever wants to debate 5:116 (5:117 in the Qadiani Quran), make them start at 5:109 and get the full context of what Eisa (As) and other messengers are destined to say on the Day of Judgement.

In 1890 (Via Izala Auham, Part-1), MGA and his team began to write that Esa (as) was dead and they used 5:117 (See Izala-e-Auham, Ruhani Khaza’in, vol. 3, pp. 125-127, See also Essence of islam, vol. 3–pages 192-193).

In the late summer of 1891, via Izala Auham Part-2, MGA used 5:117 as part of his 30 verses which allegedly proved the death of Eisa (as). MGA claimed that Eisa (as) died in Galilee (Al-Khaleeli)(See Izala Auham, Roohani Khazain vol.3 p.353-354), which is modern day Israel. Also in this book, Mirza Ghulam Ahmad alleged that Eisa (as) had already said this (see Izala Auham vol 3 page 424-425 and via Tafsir Maseeh-e-Maud, see scan in the below), in other words the events of 5:116 had already happened.

About a year later, in 1892, MGA began to say that Esa (As) lived to age 120 and indirectly quoted a saying of Aisha, which was also recorded in Kanzul Ummul (See Nishan Asmani, page 19)(MGA was quoting Tabrani [spelled as Tibrani] and Al-Hakam). See our full refutation of this Tabrani quote herein. However, this caused a contradiction. Since per MGA, Eisa (as) was alive (and living in India) when Christians went astray in 65 C.E. via Paul (See also Chashma Masihi, page 52, online english edition).

In 1905, in terms of 5:117, MGA and his team of writers told us that Eisa (as) would be asked these questions on the Day of Judgement (See the Will page 18).

In the 1960’s, even the 2nd Khalifa wrote the same in his quranic commentary, Tafseer-e-Sagheer.

In the 1990’s, Mirza Tahir Ahmad disagreed and said it could be any time before the Day of Judgement.

In Islam, prophets and Messengers are only responsible for delivering the message, they are not held accountable for what their people do after they deliver the message (See 16:82, 5:92, 5:99, 24:54). Nevertheless, on the Day of Judgement, they will all be asked the same questions, even Muhammad (saw)(See Bukhari and Sunan an Nasai). The Angels will also be asked the same questions and they will totally disown humans.
Continue reading “The Ahmadiyya Movement and 5:116 of the Quran (5:117 in the Qadiani Quran)” →

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I have written in many essays that Ahmadiyya leadership aka the Mirza family purposely got themselves declared as non-Muslim in 1974. As we all know, Ahmadis were basically declared as Muslim in 1954, since the govt. of Pakistan observed that there is no clear definition of a “Muslim” in the Quran or any hadith. All definitions from the hadith were found to be “confusing” and “unclear”. The truth is….every hadith report has a context, and that context is rarely ever discussed, most people, especially Ahmadis, they use hadith and “create-a-context”, and then present their queer views. Mirza Masroor Ahmad has also said many times how Ahmadi’s should confront people about their religious beliefs and never be afraid, controversy has always helped the Ahmadiyya Movement. Check out these tik toks too, Mirza Tahir Ahmad wanted Muslims to persecute Ahmadi’s. He challenged Muslims as such.

Continue reading “The Mirza family loves the persecution, they call it free press” →

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MGA and his team of writers broke many Islamic rules.  In fact, they were “anti-Islam”, they criticized Christianity, Hinduism and all world religions against the teachings of the Quran.  For example, see 6: 108

And do not insult those they invoke other than Allah , lest they insult Allah in enmity without knowledge. Thus We have made pleasing to every community their deeds. Then to their Lord is their return, and He will inform them about what they used to do.

MGA and team of writers didn’t care
“””The Dajjal mentioned in the Ahadith is described by the
Holy Qur’an as the Satan, whom it quotes as saying:
(Al-A‘raf 7:15-16_)…

‘He (Satan) pleaded in the presence of God to be granted respite until those who are dead of heart are revived. God said: You are given respite till that time.’ Thus the Dajjal who is mentioned in the Ahadith is none other than the Satan who will be slain in the latter days.
This is recorded in the book of Daniel as well as in some Ahadith. As Christianity is the perfect manifestation of Satan, Surah Al-Fatihah makes no mention of Dajjal, but prescribes supplication for refuge against the evil of the Christians. If the Dajjal had been some other mischiefmaker, the Holy Qur’an would not have enjoined us to seek refuge against the mischief of Dallin [those who have gone astray] but for security against the Dajjal. The verse mentioned above does not mean the day of resurrection, because Satan will remain alive only so long as men are alive. Satan does not operate on his own, but through his agents, who are the people who deify a human being. Being a group of people, they are called Dajjal as in Arabic Dajjal also connotes a group. If Dajjal is taken to mean someone other than the misguided preachers of Christianity, this would entail a contradiction, because the very Ahadith which indicate that the Dajjal will prevail over the earth in the latter days, also indicate that in those days the power of the church will overwhelm all religions. This contradiction can only be solved by affirming that the two are one and the same.””” [Haqiqat-ul-Wahi, Ruhani Khaza’in, vol. 22, p. 41]

This reference can also be found in Essense of Islam, vol. 3

Click to access essence-3.pdf

See page 279-280

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MGA and his team aggressively and viciously attacked Abdullah Athim, who was a Christian man who was kind enough to allow MGA to come into his house and have a debate. As we all know, MGA lost this debate and was humiliated, he then threw out a false prophecy that Athim would die in 15 months, however, Athim didn’t die. Athim eventually died a few years later and MGA claimed it as a victory.

Continue reading “When the Athim prophecy was about to expire….” →

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Ahmadis are working around the clock…they educate their children only so that they may grow older and pay chanda to Ahmadiyya, they volunteer so that the Mirza family gets free labor at their masjids, they learn western education only so that Ahmadiyya may benefit, they go to work, only so that Ahmadiyya may benefit.  These people are all sick and twisted and in reality they worship the Mirza family, not any god.

In the video posted below, this Ahmadi mullah, Mubashir Ahmad Kahloon (Head of Dar Al-Ifta Rabwah, Pakistan) is giving a speech, this is an exerpt from Jalsa Salana Qadian 2015, 5th Speech of Day 1.  He basically lies and tells Ahmadis some colossal lies.  Muslims will not be asked any of the questions that he presents, its a total lie.  However, he is following the orders of the Mirza family, and the standing order is to squeeze all the money out of Ahmadis and make them work for free and sell Ahmadiyya.  Sell sell sell!!!!!

The video

Intro
MGA did not have a face to face verbal debate with Abdullah Athim and his Church Missionary Society, he couldn’t, he stuttered and never held a debate with anyone. It was a written debate, they exchanged papers for 15 days and Noorudin and the rest of MGA’s team were on stand-by. MGA did finally speak, on the last day of the debate, he blurted out that Athim would die in 15 months (see Dard, Life of Ahmad, pages 390-420).
_____________________________________________________________________________________________The Punjab Mission News reports as follows:

Taken from the Church Missionary Society booklets here: https://www.amazon.com/Proceedings-Church-Missionary-Society-Africa/dp/B00AS0SMSY

See page 169

The quote
“Great excitement prevailed, and many telegrams flew hither and thither over the Punjab on the night of September 5th, (1894) when the Mirza of Qadian’s prophecy against Mr. Abdullah Athim expired…..seeing that Mr. Athim is an old man, and was at the time in extremely feeble health, this was, to say the least, a very shrewd forecast, with two hot weathers carefully brought into the reckoning.  However, we are thankful to say that Mr. Athim is now in better health than he has been for a long time, despite the excitement of the past few months, and the very decided efforts which appear to have been made in certain quarters to aid the prophecy to its fulfilment by measures which savour strongly of the Criminal Courts.  

The Nur Afshan states that 3 attempts were made on Mr. Athim’s life during the spring at Amritsar, one at Ludhiana, and 4 at Ferozepore, where he spent the last couple months of the allotted period at his daughter’s house. Great rejoicings therefore took place at the safe completion of the 15 months, and Mr. Athim’s return to Amritsar on 9–6-1895 was quite a regal progress.  There are a large number of Christians had gathered to welcome him, and to thank God for the non-fulfilment of the prophecy on the very spot in Dr. H.M. Clark’s verandah where it was made last year.  A touching speech was made on this occasion by Mr. Athim himself.  He quoted Moses’ warning in Duet. xiii. 1–3, against believing false prophets even though their sings come to pass, and then went on to say how, during these months of danger and suspense, two things had given him calm and comfort–the Holy Spirit’s support, and the Blood of Christ.  

The joyous throng of Christians then passed through the main bazaars of Amritsar to show their hero alive in person, though even so, some sceptics declared that this was not the deputy sahib Abdullah Athim, but his deputy in the shape of a rubber doll, which bowed by the pressure of Dr. Clark’s foot!  The main feeling, however, among the crowds seems to have been one of rejoicing with the Christians.”

Free Download—Church Missionary Society_Jung A Muqadus Mukamal
_____________________________________________________________________________________________Links and Related Essays

After Mirza Ghulam Ahmad’s lost the debate with Athim, 3 of his followers left Ahmadiyya

Who is Abdullah Athim (1828-1896)? The Ex-Muslim turned Christian who beat Mirza Ghulam Ahmad in 1893 via a written debate – ahmadiyyafactcheckblog

Mirza Ghulam Ahmad vs. Athim—through the lens of Asif M Basit–Review of Religions 2013

Abdullah Athim never repented!!! Ahmadiyya leadership lied!!!!!

Mirza Ghulam Ahmad’s first debate–1886, a written debate with Murlidhar

Mirza Ghulam Ahmad had 5 official written debates, NO ORAL Debates

https://ahmadiyyafactcheckblog.com/2016/11/18/munshi-indarman-moradabadi-wanted-a-verbal-debate-mga-wanted-a-written-debate/

Anjam-e-Athim (1897) quotes

MGA’s nasty poetry vs the Christian Abdullah Athim

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Intro
This is an interesting book which explains how Ahmadis were allowed access to Germany, the UK, the USA and many western nations almost 100 years ago and were able to grow as a non-profit.

The links
https://books.google.com/books?id=GUUpCwAAQBAJ&pg=PA237&lpg=PA237&dq=review+of+religions+catalog+Ahmadiyya&source=bl&ots=mgwuLHl5Kb&sig=mSiJzU3UQqXuL1AaN0QM9lo1Czs&hl=en&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwja-ZrTmITTAhUD8GMKHViPAUMQ6AEIMTAD#v=onepage&q=review%20of%20religions%20catalog%20Ahmadiyya&f=false