Intro
Ahmadi’s are very stubborn people. This is their biggest malfunction. We have posted data on this blog for years indicating that MGA never led salaat for any congregation. Ahmadi’s refused to believe it. It was too much for them, they then began to argue that MGA did in-fact lead some salaat. However, after some additional digging, we have uncovered that MGA never led salaat at after Nov. 4th, 1888 for sure. The testimony in the below proves that. Further, MGA barely had any followers to lead salaat for before this date. We suspect that he still never led salaat, and even if he did, it was in-front of small children or gullible peers who never tried to correct MGA when he made mistakes. Listen to Dr. Holy Spirit’s explanation of MGA would scream and fall herein.
This narration also shows that MGA was suffering from a mental disorder (Maradh dhu’f e Dimaagh) as early as 1888. This was also mentioned in 1891 (see Victory of Islam, RK-3, page 17, footnote-Urdu)(See page 61 of the English edition) MGA stated that he had mental weakness (Maradh dhu’f e Dimaagh) that was untreated and not cured. He also states this this weakness prevented him from speaking about the reality of Islam at the Aligarh University in 1889. MGA didn’t give this speech. Listen to Dr. Holy Spirit’s explanation of MGA would scream and fall herein (narration via Seeratul Mahdi).
In 1891, (see Victory of Islam, RK-3, page 17, footnote-Urdu)(See page 61 of the English edition) MGA stated that he had mental weakness that was untreated and not cured. He also states this this weakness prevented him from speaking about the reality of Islam at the Aligarh University in 1889. MGA didn’t give this speech. Listen to Dr. Holy Spirit’s explanation of MGA would scream and fall herein.
The Civil and Military Gazette of Feb-11-1892 reports that MGA was in Lahore and was being seen for under the treatment of a leading physician. In 1892, MGA was reported to have a brain disorder. MGA had many attacks of Schizophrenia in this era too.
In 1906, Dr. Daniels made similar observations.
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The quote
qarchives.com/misc/Seeratul_Mahdi_1.pdf
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Narration no. 19
”My mother narrated to me that mgaq got first attack of dizziness and hysteria few days after the death of Bashir 1 (we had an elder brother who died in 1888). While sleeping he got choked and then condition worsened but that attack was light. Then after some time (few days) he went out saying that I am not feeling well today. Mother said after some time sheikh Hamid Ali ( he was an old sincere servant of mgaq, he is dead now) knocked at the door and asked for a pitcher of hot water. Mother said, I knew that mgaq’s condition is worsened, so I asked a maid to ask him (sh hamid) about mgaq’s condition. Sh Hamid Ali said its bad. I went inside the mosque and saw mgaq lying. I went near him he said- I m not feeling well. I was praying and saw something black raised in front of me and went up to sky. Then I screamed and fell down and became like fainted. Mother says that after that he started getting these attacks on REGULAR BASIS. This humble one asked what was attack like, she said that his hands and feet got cold, body nerves got shrunk specially neck’s and then dizziness started. In that condition, he was unable to support his body. In the beginning, these attacks/seizures were severe but later on there was no such severity and he became used to that.
Humble one asked, did he ever get any problem with his head? Mother said, before he used to get nominal headache attacks. Humble one asked, did he use to lead the prayers, mother said yes, but due to attacks he stopped. Humble one states that was before the claim of being Messiah.”
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In 1891, (see Victory of Islam, RK-3, page 17, footnote-Urdu)(See page 61 of the English edition) MGA stated that he had mental weakness that was untreated and not cured. He also states this this weakness prevented him from speaking about the reality of Islam at the Aligarh University in 1889. MGA didn’t give this speech. Listen to Dr. Holy Spirit’s explanation of MGA would scream and fall herein.
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1892
The Civil and Military Gazette of Feb-11-1892 reports that MGA was in Lahore and was being seen for under the treatment of a leading physician. MGA had many attacks of Schizophrenia in this era too.
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1906
In 1906, J. Daniel Esq. asked Mirza Ghulam Ahmad if he was crazy – ahmadiyyafactcheckblog
In 1906, J. Daniel Esq. asked Mirza Ghulam Ahmad if he was crazy
14 years later, Dr. Daniels made similar observations.
It seems that a man by the name of J. Daniel Esq. came to Qadian, he was working as the head master of the Gujrat Mission School (See English Review of Religions, April-1906). The Review of Religions doesn’t think J. Daniel Esq. was being sincere. We have listed the 7 questions in the below. In response to J. Daniel Esq., the editors of the ROR point out that the Jews had called Jesus (as) as crazy. They then process to give MGA’s life story. After all of this, they finally come to the questions. They write that J. Daniel Esq. accused MGA of having dementia. Ahmadi’s quote the bible, John 10:20, as they attempt to make a parallel between MGA being crazy and Jesus Christ of Bible. The Ahmadi’s argue that Jesus Christ of Bible was accused of being a wine drinker and that was also connected to the accusation that he was crazy.
Abruptly, the Ahmadi writers of this essay (it must be Muhammad Ali) agree that MGA does have many diseases (dementia is now inferred and admitted to). However, they argue that it was foretold by Muhammad (saw) as such (astagfarullah). The Ahmadi’s argue that the Messiah would be clad in two yellow garments and thus, the diseases of MGA were foretold. The Ahmadi’s argue that MGA suffers from syncope and polyuria. Which is a medical way of saying that MGA fainted all the time and always had excessive urination problems. They then argue that MGA does not have any mental diseases. MGA is then called a prophet herein about twice, thus procing the falsity of the Lahori-Ahmadi’s. MGA‘s cousin (Mirza Imam ud Din) is then mentioned as the Ahmadi writer attempts to answer Question-2, the Ahmadi admits that MGA’s cousin also started his own religion to the sweeper community (chooray) at Qadian. A quote is then given by MGA without a reference, this has to do with MGA and his revelations. In terms of the 4th question by J. Daniel Esq., Ahmadi’s asserted that MGA is sinless. The rest of the responses are nonsense.
This report also shows up in the Urdu-Review of Religions for 1906.
_____________________________________________________________________________________________J. Daniels questions to MGA in 1906, see English Review of Religions, April-1906
Review Of Religions – April 1906 Edition by reviewofreligions – issuu
1—Have you ever been affected with a brain disease. If so, what and when? Does its attack recur now?
2—Did you begin to have revelations before you suffered from an attack of such disease or after that? Has any of your relatives ever made strange pretensions? If so, what and when?
3—Has the idea ever had access to your mind that your claims may be wrong? If so, how was the doubt removed? Is it not possible that the doubt may be valid?
4—Have you ever committed, or do you ever commit, a sin in your deeds or words?
5—One person cannot he like of different person who teachings are different. For instance, Christ taught atonement, and the Prophet Muhammad is opposed to this teaching. How can you than, being the like of these two different persons, spread two different doctrines. In a like manner, the Prophet Muhammad and Christ did not admit the doctrine of transmigration of souls, but Guru Nanak and Sri Krishna give this teaching. How can you then be the like of all of these four?
6—What proof, beside the word of your mouth which may be wrong, can you give from sacred writings and from reason that you are the like of Krishna, Nanak, Christ and Muhammad?
7—What is the significance and proof of your assertion that “Jesus, son of Mary, is from me and I am from God?”.
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Seeratul Mahdi on the Aligarh situation of 1889
https://www.youtube.com/live/uQVNrF9fJsk?si=4Q7UkjS94stvsPwW
They were there in Aligarh for 7 days and returned to Ludhiana thereafter.
At page no 72 of his book Seeratul Mahdi Vol-1 (Story #99), Mirza Bashir Ahmad writes that Hazrat sb went to Aligarh in 1889. Abdullah Sinauri, Shaikh Hamid Ali and Mir Abbas Ludhianvi were with him. People in Aligarh arranged a lecture of Hazrat sb for which his approval was obtained in advance. An Ishtihar was published giving date, time and venue of the Lecture. When everything was ready and the time of Lecture came near, Hazrat sb refused to deliver the lecture by saying that Allah has stopped him from delivering this lecture. The organisers insisted and said, huzur cancellation of lecture would bring humiliation to us. But Hazrat sb remained firm and said he will not go against the will of God. So he stayed there for about seven days but did not deliver lecture.
Meer Abbas refused to eat the meat of the “Naturis”, MGA said their food is halal.
The scans from Seeratul Mahdi
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1923
Scans
1923
Story number 35, 1923 edition
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Links and Related Essays
Mirza Ghulam Ahmad’s daughter, “Ismat” died of cholera in 1891–at age 6
Shaikh Meher Ali Hoshiarpuri and Mirza Ghulam Ahmad and his 40 days of seclusion (Jan 25–March-1886)
Nusrat Jehan Begum claims that MGA only led Salaat before 4 November 1888, never after
Mirza Ghulam Ahmad’s desire for a 3rd marriage led him to ask Noorudin about his pre-teen daughter
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