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April 2018

Hakeem Mufti Fazl ur Rehman was suspended by the Ahmadiyya Anjuman, and re-instated by MGA based on corruption

Intro
As we continue to dig into the early history of Ahmadiyya, we continue to find new facts that support the idea that the majority of MGA’s team of writers, mullahs and speakers were fast friends, and in this case relatives of Noorudin.  In this specific case, we cover Hakeem Mufti Fazl ur Rehman, he was listed amongst the first 313 companions of MGA (although 313 is only men, the women push the number past 313, perhaps at Badr only men were also counted).  See Dard, page 846, online edition.  Interestingly enough, there is another companion of MGA with almost the same name, its #246–“”Mufti Fadlur Rahman (withwife), Bhera.””(See Dard, page 851).  We are calling the first entry as the true descriptor, based on the title “Hakim”, however, this could be a double entry by the Qadiani-mullah team.

Furthermore, Nooruddin’s first wife is mentioned here, she isn’t mentioned much in Ahmadiyya literature.  Noorudin had 9 sons and 5 daughters with his first wife, Noorudin doesn’t seem to have spent much time with his family.  In 1889, he married again, we have to assume that his young wife immediately moved in with him in Jammu or wherever he was working in 1889.

Noorudin’s children from his first marriage seem to have totally rejected Ahmadiyya, within Noorudin’s lifetime even.  His children from his second wife also have left Ahmadiyya, the one daughter that married into the MGA family, her children are unaccounted for in the history of Ahmadiyya.  1. Amatul Qayyum, daughter, 2. Amatul Rashid, daughter, 3. Mirza Khalil Ahmad, son, they were born from 1914 to 1924.

The reference
MUFTI MUHAMMAD SADIQ IN HIS BOOK ZIKR E HABIB PAGE 58

The Quote
“””Hakeem Mufti Fazl ur Rehman, when he was a teacher in the Talimul Islam School, went on leave to his native town Bhera. He sta
yed there beyond the leave period. Anjuman (the governing body), issued a notice to him to resume his duties but he did not turn up to his duty, despite receipt of notice. The Anjuman placed him under suspension.
When he returned to Qadian, his maternal aunt, who happened to be his mother in law and whose name was Fatima Bibi, was with him. Fatima Bibi who was first wife of Khalifa Awwal Hakim Nuruddin, went to Hazrat Masih e Moud (MGQ) and complained that the Anjuman has dismissed her son in law from the service. Hazrat Sahib immediately wrote a letter to the Secretary of Anjuman and got him restored on the job.”””

Related essays

https://ahmadiyyafactcheckblog.com/2018/03/30/ahmadi-teachers-at-the-talim-ul-islam-high-school-were-corrupt-they-would-pass-mirza-basheer-uddin-mahmud-ahmad-even-when-he-failed/

https://ahmadiyyafactcheckblog.com/2017/06/30/the-british-govt-donated-25000-rupees-for-the-talim-ul-islam-high-school-in-qadian-in-1909/

https://ahmadiyyafactcheckblog.com/2017/01/09/fast-times-at-qadian-high-adultery-and-immorality-of-mahmud-ahmad-and-company/

 

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In 1891, when MGA made his big claims, he denied prophethood–Mufti Sadiq was heavily involved

Intro
MGA denied prophethood as early as 1884, some ulema of India had already issued a Fatwa of Kufr. As we have recently learned, MGA was already claiming to be the Messiah in 1889, Ahmadiyya leadership has always suppressed this data, the Ahmadi-mullahs lie about almost everything in their pursuit of gainful employment. We can come across some additional data about MGA’s denial of prophethood in 1891, it is posted in the below. This is a longer story…MGA and his team denied prophethood until November of 1901, and even a bit earlier to the summer of 1900. A reader would have to be very well versed in the dynamic of the split to fully understand the brevity of this data. Finally, it should be noted that MGA and his team vehemently denied prophethood using the argument that the word prophet should be replaces in all of MGA’s books and revelations to muhaddas.
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An Ahmadi can not be Facebook friends with someone who has been expelled from the Ahmadiyya community

Intro
Ahmadiyya boycotting continues.  Ahmadiyya INC has been ordering Ahmadi’s to boycott ex-Ahmadi’s since at least 1889 and Meer Abbas Ali.

Summary of this letter
This is from Qadian, most of the times it is on official letterhead yes but the main communication language for the Markaz both in London and Rabwah is still Urdu. And this is from the Sadar Amoomi in Qadian and mostly these local letters are written on regular paper with stamp instead of the letterhead.

The letter tells Ahmadis to boycott ex-Ahmadi’s, especially on Facebook and other sites.

The scan

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The ‘Ulama’ of Dar al-‘Uloom Deoband and Noorudin

Intro
We have came across some interesting data in terms of Nooruddin and his affiliations before he went all in with MGA.  Its from a website which represents Deobandi’s.  This new data suggests that Noorudin was formerly a disciple of Shah Abdul Ghani.

The website
http://www.darululoom-deoband.com/english/aboutdarululoom/school_of_thought.htm

The data
He is a direct filial descendent of Seyyidina ‘Umar (radiAllahu ‘anhu), the second Caliph of the Ummah. He was a Hafiz of the Qur’an, and a near-Hafiz of the Sahihayn (Bukhari and Muslim). He had committed the Hajj pilgrimage. He learnt from shuyukh directly in Makkah and Madinah, including Shaykh Shah ‘Abd al-Ghani Mujaddidi, who was in a sanad (chain) of shuyukh going back all the way to the Prophet Muhammad (salAllahu ‘alayhi wa sallam) and including people like Shaykh ‘Abd al-Qadir al-Jilani (rh). This is not my claim, but what the ‘Ulama’ of Dar al-‘Uloom Deoband themselves admit as can be seen here:

He was also a trained Mufti and trained in both Hanafi and Hanbali fiqh (although he was the latter). Allama Iqbal of Pakistan often asked him questions of fiqh. He also adhered to all the physical zhahiri sunnahs as well (turban, fist-length beard, cloak, etc.) Why would such a man be the first ever mureed of the Imam al-Mahdi, Seyyidina Mirza Ghulam Ahmad (as)? Someone asked him that exact question and his reply was that: “Before I could see the Prophet Muhammad (sa) in my dreams. Now I see him while I am alive” (referring to the blessed example of the Ghulam of Ahmad, who was a complete reflection of his master, Seyyidina Muhammad (sa)).

Relates essays
https://ahmadiyyafactcheckblog.com/2017/12/07/maulvi-nooruddin-was-an-ahle-a-hadith-aka-wahhabi-type-of-muslim/

https://ahmadiyyafactcheckblog.com/2018/01/22/the-ahmadi-mullah-maulvi-nooruddin-wanted-to-kill-all-ahmadis-who-ask-that-he-step-down-as-khalifa/

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Was Maulana Abu Kalamazad the editor of the Vakil in 1908 and his relationship with Ahmadis?

Intro
We have written about this here, Abdul Majeed Salik (1894-1962), a pro Qadiani journalist and poet, (his father Abdul Qadir and paternal uncle being Qadiani), in his book “Yaran e Kuhen” (old friends) writes:

“Although, Molana Abulkalam Azad has nothing to do with the claim of Masih e Moud by Mirza Ghulam Qadiani, yet because of Mirza sahib’s religious services he was one of his fans. This was the reason-when Mirza sahib died in 1908 Molana was editor of Newspaper Vakil Amritsar, acknowledging his religious services, he wrote condolence note for Mirza Sahib. Molana came to Lahore from Amritsar and traveled all the way from Lahore to Batala with the dead body of Mirza sahib along with other mourners.”

This made the Qadianis inflated they started a propaganda like, look a great scholar like Molana Abul Kalam Azad paying homage to Mirza sahib and this a great victory and sign of truth of Mirza sahib.

Few friends of Molana AbulKalam Azad wrote to him seeking his point of view regarding Qadiani groups and explanation on the issue of condolence article and accompanying dead body from Lahore to Batala.

Molana AbulKalam Azad (1888-1958) categorically denied to have written such article and accompanying dead body from Lahore to Batala. He declared that both Qadiani and Lahories are not on true path. In this regard he expressed his views many times and two letters of Azad to Molana Hifz ur Rehman sewharvi are on record, published in Book Ifadat e Azad by Dr. Abu Salman Shah jehanpuri. Urdu screen shot attached.
English Translation is as under:-

FIRST LETTER.
From .19A Baliganj, Circular Road Calcutta,
18th March 1926

Muhibbi Fillah, Assalamu alaikum,
I received your letter wherein u have asked me as to which one of the Qadiani group is on right path, Qadiani or Lahori? To me both are not on right path.However, in their exaggeration, Qadiani group has gone too far that their basic beliefs have shaken. For example their faith that now it is not sufficient to believe on Islam,s basic faith and beliefs but one has to believe in the prophethood of Mirza Ghulam Qadiani for completion of Iman. Although Lahori group do not exaggerate this much yet they have also gone astray because of their unreasonable faith in Mirza Qadiani. As regard the claims of Mirza ghulam Qadiani,s are concerned, one who is aware of basic faith and beliefs of Islam and have a sound mind, could not accept these claims for a moment.
Abul Kalam.

SECOND LETTER
Janab Mohtaram Tasleem,
Molana has been shocked to know all this which is absolutely incorrect. Molana has never been impressed with Mirza Ghulam Qadiani, in his whole life, neither he wrote Mirza ,s condolence nor he went to Lahore to accompany his dead body to Batala. The note published in Vakil Amritsar was written by one Abdul Majeed Kapoorthalvi. Molana has specifically noted with great concern that Salik has written such baseless thing in his book. You may publish this denial from Molana.
Muhammad Ajmal Khan
Secretary to MAKA.
(Ifadat e Azad by Dr. Abu Salman Shah jehanpuri)

It is pertinent to mention here that Abdul Qadir Father of Abdul Majid Salik was a Resident of Batala district Gurdaspur he and his elder brother had converted to Ahmadiyyah, and having faith in MGAQ. (Salik confirms this in his book SARGUZISHT screen shot attached)

Bi weekly Newspaper Vakil Amritsar was owned by Khan Ata Muhammad Khan who was father of Allama Inayatullah Al Mashriqi of Khaksar Movement. In 1901 Munshi Fazil Shaikh Ghulam Muhammad Mukhtar was its editor (few title pages and one which showing name of editor is attached).

Molana Abulkalam Azad, when he was under the tutelage of Khan Ata Muhammad Khan was a part of editorial team of Vakil for 5 years from 1903 to 1908 at a young age of 15 years. The obituary note published on 30 May 1908 was written by Munshi Abdul Majeed Kapoor Thalvi and the aspect, who was the editor of Vakil at that time, could not be known.

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Was MGA’s body transported to Batala from Lahore via a British train?

The Weekly Etisam of Lahore, an organ of Jamaat Ahl e Hadis in its publication of 20 April, 2001, carried out this report on the authority of Qari Naeemul Haq Naeem who says at the time of death of MGQ, the man posted at cargo transport section at Lahore Railways was late Malik Sirajuddin Iraqi of Sohdra. He was real maternal uncle of Prof Hakim Inayatullah Nasim Sohdri. He happens to be the uncle of Qari Naeem, the narrator. The relatives of MGQ requested for a coach for transportation of dead body of Mirza sb but he refused by saying that he does not have one. The relatives approached British Station Master who pressurized Malik sb to provide it. Finally he offered the coach which was used for garbage lifting which was accepted by the relatives. The station master of the day did not allow Mirza ghulam body to travel in ordinary passenger carriages, even though the british person in charge of the station said so. So it is true that “that makhsoos duba” was a carriage parked along way away from lahore station, full of local garbage. The station master told these qadianees that you have only that carriage, and you can put his dead body in it. So that is what happened and mirza body and his mureeds had to travel in that full of station garbage (See “Moulana abul kalam azad kee mirza qadiani kay janazay main shirkat” page 26 onward). However, he doesn’t mention how Ahmadi’s obtained a medical certificate from a British doctor to the effect that MGA didn’t die of cholera but some other intestinal issue, which is a lie, there was never any medical certificate.

Who is Mujahid ul Hussaini?

He was a journalist. He was Editor of daily Azad Lahore in 1956 and has authored many books. He spent 1 year in Jail during Khatme Nabuwwat movement in 1953. He wrote a book denying that Abul Kalam Azad accompanied the funeral party of MGA from Lahore to Qadian. He gave details of how the dead body was first transferred from Ahmadiyya Building to Lahore Railway station and how the Railway bogey was acquired (thru the reference of magazine AL ETISHAM. Lahore APRIL 2001).
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Links and Related Essay’s

Mirza Ghulam Ahmad died of Cholera—new evidence found in Aug-2017–The Vakil newspaper Amritsar dated 30th May 1908


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Is there a new Ahmadiyya directive on marrying non-ahmadis?

Intro

This looks big on the surface, and it’s a lot for the jamaat to give in on anything, but I question how much will actually change. The precondition is that you need the permission of the khalifa, which means that an Ahmadi woman, or her parents, would have to write to Mirza Masroor Ahmad and ask for permission for the woman to marry a Sunni, Christian, Jew or atheist. After having done this, probably by involving a bunch of people old men with goatees or well-trimmed beards in your neighbourhood, city, region or country, you have then won the privilege of formal ostracism from your community.

You have a nikah that can not be announced in a mosque or namaz centre (I love this corporate phrasing, like a Walmart Express), no Ahmadi imaam (sorry, office-bearer) can announce it, meaning that this is not in a nikah in the Ahmadi sense. You don’t have permission to marry this person in the Ahmadi sense, really.

And, of course, by doing so, you’re a sinful, disgusting person and no one should attend your wedding shameful orgy of an event.

Sidebar: I absolutely hate the way unmarried men and women are referred to as ‘boys’ and ‘girls’. I get that this is a distinct feature of the subcontinent, but it’s childish, condescending and very much in keeping with the creepy, authoritarian brand of English favoured in the jamaat.

On the authenticity or reliability of this message, it’s funny. One of the most vexing things about Ahmadiyya, which loves to compare itself to the Southern Clark County Birdwatching Club when it comes to arbitrarily kicking members out and collecting 6.25% of their salary, is that it doesn’t have the rules posted anywhere, never mind meeting times or anything like that.

At the same time, there are literally hundreds of Ahmadi organizations, and thousands of departments within those organizations, in countries like the UK, US or Canada, who can and do send out information that circulates on WhatsApp. For example, the South Bronx Lajna’s Department of Tarbiyyat might issue a message that circulates WhatsApp, as does the Croydon jamaat’s president, the regional Amir for Central Canada, and so forth. Anything is true and everything can be true; in fact, they might just gaslight you and say that it’s true and always has been true when in fact it’s not true and never has been.

Related essays
https://ahmadiyyafactcheckblog.com/2016/12/27/mass-expulsions-in-ahmadiyya-from-2010/

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Mufti Abu Layth al-Maliki explains Ahmadiyya

Intro

Watch other Maliki Scholars denounce Ahmadiyya
https://ahmadiyyafactcheckblog.com/2018/04/08/shaykh-hamza-maqbool-discusses-ahmadiyya/

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Dear readers, meet Shazia, an Ex Ahmedi Atheist—currently in Australia


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6Fx7AK3SfgU
Intro

Ahmadi’s are quitting the cult every single day, for many different reasons.  Here is another example.  This podcast is conducted by Harris Sultan.

Some notes
—She never prayed as an Ahmadi, her parents never prayed either.

—-She was recently granted asylum in Australia.

—its not clear why she was granted asylum, whether it was Ahmadiyya or atheism?

—Harris asks how its possible that Ahmadis always get good jobs in Pakistan.

—Shazia never mentioned that she was an Ahmadi, she registered as a Muslim.

—He mentions how many many Ahmadi’s falsely report themselves as Muslims.

—-Is Shazia a Lahori-Ahmadi?  She claims that Ahmadi’s don’t believe in additional prophets after Muhammad (saw).

—it seems that she went to the Australian Embassy and claimed to be Ahmadi and scared, she referenced the 2010 Ahmadiyya mosque shooting as evidence.

—She mentions a really good point, Ahmadi’s won’t separate themselves from Islam.  And this is the biggest issue.

—She is asked about the growth of Ahmadiyya, she isn’t too sure, she gives Rabwah Times as a source, however, its websites tells us that it is not official.  She seems to be have been told in Pakistan that Ahmadiyya is growing overseas.

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Republican Congressman Peter King hates Muslims, but likes Ahmadi’s



Intro

Ahmadiyya leaders have been ordered by their Khalifa to continue to grease politicians, whether they are democrat or republican, to the Mirza family, it doesn’t matter. In this picture, Peter King, who hates Muslims in America and hates CAIR, is seen hugging two Ahmadis, one of the Ahmadi’s is Muhammad Ahmad Chaudhry, who works in Silicon valley as CEO of the Silicon Valley Educational Foundation. Pete King is also the co-chair for the Ahmadiyya caucus.
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